The more I look at it the more I love it. It's so beautiful, under $200, automatic, hackable, it shows the date and the day of the week, it's a strap monster and it's perfectly sized. I swear to god I am going to buy this watch as soon as I can. Love it.
Just a note to save a second if anyone wants to add a NATO to their Casio F91W : You'll need spring bars for starters as the watch comes with straight pins on the rubber strap, but more importantly the strap will probably not slip through once the bars are in place, it is necessary to put the strap in place and then squeeze the spring bar in on top of it for both bars. A light folding of the strap in the places the bars will go will help because the cavity for the strap is at a right angle. I just did mine, i took me a minute to figure this out
The black and blue Orient are not both "Ray" watches. The blue one is a Ray and the black one is the Mako. They have both been updated; most notably losing the day pusher.
I've owned both the Blue Ray 1 and 2, and have been unbelievably happy with the purchases. I get more compliments on my Ray than I do with watches 5 times the price. It's versatile and reliable. I can wear it on a nice nato in the summer and let that sunburst dial stand out, or on vacation on a rubber strap. If you are considering this watch, do not hesitate. Although the SKX has the cult-like following, this watch is far superior in styling and versatility. If you hand them to any average Joe, they'll choose the Ray over the SKX.
I notice you always criticize the Orient divers having a 22mm lug width, but you don't seem to have the same problem with the SKX which has always been 22mm. Any reason?
The term 'Seiko Fan Boi' kinda sums it up. POS movement that's not accurate, doesn't hack, doesn't hand-wind? "Minor issue" says a Seiko Fan Boi "... it's .... it's a Seiko!" Orient has a (much) better movement which is all three? "Untested" says a Seiko Fan Boi. What we got here is a genuine Seiko Fan Boi ... obnoxiously pretentious accent included for free. Dude's a fucking caricature.
The reason the dials on the Orient's were different was because they are two different watches! The blue dial is an Orient Ray 2 and the black dial one was the Orient Mako 2!
+Ben Kite Yes, the Blue one is an Orient II and the black one is the Mako, just to confirm. Sorry I should of made that clear. Thanks for watching, Best regards, TGV
+The Urban Gentry Also the lume was better on the ray because it was an upgrade to the Orient Mako and one of the upgrades was the lume. Overall great review this was the final push I needed to get the new ray.
Best bracelets that I'm aware of for both the Ray 2 and Mako 2 are made by Miltat and sold by Strapcode. Solid end links, screwed not pinned, oyster or endmill, choice of clasp style. $~90-100. Well worth the money. Crystal times sells a variety of sapphire crystals specifically for Ray/Mako's 25 for flat 40 for a double dome. AR coating options. So for about $300 you can sport a watch that has pretty much every 'box checked' as far as commonly desired features.
Hi TGV! It’s been less than 6 months since I stumbled upon your channel, and today I just got my first mechanical watch! The Orient Ray 2 Blue! Thank you so much gentry for introducing me to the world of horology. I still have much to learn!
I bought an Orient Mako II with blue dial. Personally, I prefer the Mako's 12, 6, and 9 numerals, the dashes rather than the dots, as well as the style of the hands compared to the Ray's offerings.
i agree, the only problem with the mako 2 IMO is the bezel font is really lame... feels almost like someone forgot to load the font that was required and it just got printed with a basic default font.
I ordered my Orient Mako II in Jan. 2018. I ordered Benchmark Strap 22mm Navy Blue Oiled Leather NATO Watchband. I wear the watch all day and just take it off when showering. It runs about 3 seconds fast per day and never needs winding or attention. It's been extremely reliable and the leather band has the secondary strap which makes it ultra comfortable. The only thing I did was take it to a jeweler and have them install heavy-duty oversized strap pins. This was necessary because the stock pins aren't reliable when the nato band is flexed, they come off. With the new pins, they are solid as a rock. Also, I put the strap on reversed so the clasp is on the inside of my wrist. This works much better because it doesn't snag and is much easier to put on. It was a great investment and I paid just $158.00 on Amazon through Island Watch. It's been a great experience and I have recommended it to several people already. I think the only other thing I'm going to do is get some more Nato straps and have my jeweler install a sapphire crystal, which should cost around $40. If you are consistent, like me and wear the watch all day, and if the timing error is consistent, you can take it to a jeweler and they can adjust it in any position and remove the error. When that's done, the watch will run at the correct time when you are wearing it. That is an improvement that will bring the watch up to a much higher spec. I abhor having a watch that needs batteries. Some silver oxide batteries only last a year or even less and they seem to always surprise you at the wrong time when they die.
I have bought the Mako II 4 months ago. It is my everyday watch and I just love it. I really enjoy it even if it's not the most accurate of my watches, I know, you said it runs 7/8seconds faster per day, but give it time LOL, that will increase. I have the sunburst blu dial which really plays with the sun, creating a magnificent effect. Excellent point, the bracelet it's not bad as you said, it's just a shame it has hollow end links, in fact I wear mine on a rubber nato. I agree too on the fact it should have a 20mm lug width, it would look much better. Fantastic video indeed, TGV. Best regards, Michele.
Thanks for the review. I picked up a Pepsi Mako 2 for 80 Euros (as new, just returned to the store by the previous buyer) off eBay as my first mechanical watch and I'm loving the experience so far.
I've had my bkue Mako 2 for a year now, and I still like it.It has a few drawbacks like you mentioned, like the hollow end links, mineral crystal, if you're not extra carefully uou will strip the screw down crown, and the biggest part it is cased in China! I have plenty of SNK'S and a second gen Orange Monster for my tool watches that I enjoy. This is my multifunction dress watch now. I often come in need of the timing bezel when wearing a dress watch, so this fits the bill perfectly!
I got this blue ray 2 this week, and i love it. The color, the movement. FYI I always ride motocycle everyday and this watch can handle it. Sadly, i've got none skx watch. So I can't compare it. Thank's for the review. Good job
LOL, I've started wearing two watches following your (bad) example! The story is: I recently found a derelict, vintage 1970's LED watch by Benrus in my father's junk depot. The bracelet was missing, but after putting the batteries (LED watches need 2 batteries) it worked instantly, so I decided to rescue it. Fitted a new NATO strap, et voilà! I wear it on my left wrist (even if I'm not left-handed, I wear my main watch on my right wrist), and I set it on the time zone of the place where the lady I love lives, so that every time I look at it and see what time is it, I think of her. :)
@@Ferien7 woah woah hold on there buddy. Seiko and orient have a reliable movement theres tons of original parts for it. Like 7S26 have tons of parts. Seems like you're a Swiss Watch fanboy
I've had my Mako II now for a week and I love it! (it's my first diving watch) The finishing is gorgeous and it is alot more refined than the previous model. So far i've measured it loses about 4-5 sec/day, which for a $180 watch you can't complain.
I still throw my RayII on regularly...Just an all round good looking watch. I only paid $130 which is outstanding and probably the best value of any of my collection. I also find that there is no need to change it out, if you do not want to , for any occasion! I can’t say that about My Oris or Hamilton...
the ostrich strap is made by Morellato, and that's what the m on the buckle stands for. I live near Florence and the brand is very common here, you can find big selections of straps at most of the local jewellers. Great quality and great price point!
Can't go wrong with those Orient Makos. I own one about 5 years old with a blue face & "Pepsi" bezel. The band was rubber and stiff so I replaced it with a ss shark mesh. Just a great all around sport watch. The in house automatic movement is fantastic. Love that watch.
+Michael Francalanzo Thank you Michael, great to hear, bet it looks cool on the mesh, good to hear 5 years and its still going strong! Best regards, TGV
What's worse, Orient said they discontinued the Mako USA for good, and Squale confirmed to me in an email that the 20 Atmos 1545 is discontinued as well. WHAT THE HELL
For the first time, you reviewed a piece that I actually owned! Much more than that, I learned, in the video that it had manual winding. That is a great feature (orient mako II)
Just ordered the Orient Ray II in black this Thursday, I'm genuinely excited as it will be my introduction piece to horology. Thank you TGV for making these amazing videos! Kind Regards! Ben
Finally settled on a purchase. My 3 options were the Ray 2, Stuhrling Regatta and the Accutron Alpha. Eliminated the Regatta first because quality isn't consistent, and thought hard about how well the exposed Alpha went with my wardrobe. I couldn't choose between the Alpha and Ray 2, but settled for the latter because I needed something for everyday wear first. Once I get my first paycheck (Turning 18 soon so I don't have to worry about spending money I make on food and housing yet) I'll spend 200 and get the Alpha. Collection limit is 5 and with this Ray I'll be at my 3rd serious watch and first automatic
I bought the Raven Ray 2 version a few months back, I absolutely love it, wasn't sure about the strap so I swapped it for a bond nato, much better, couldn't be happier
It does seem better than an SKX to me. I really don't like the SKX's 4 o'clock crown.. I know it's an icon but I just find the Mako 2 so much better looking.
Would just like to say thanks for the advice you provide and your hard effort you put into your channel. Just recieved an Orient Ray 2 after making a decision based on your advice. Its badass! Keep up the good work.
FYI you can push the pins out in the direction of the arrows on the Casio F91W stock band without cutting the strap. I'm sure someone already informed you in a previous comment.
The Mako looks great on a genuine Isofrane. It's simply The Best combo for this watch I think. I used to have a Blue Mako on isofrane (since then the watch is with my dad now, and the Isofrane is on an Orient saturation Diver)
I orderes mako II from longisland watches and I was so excited. I received the box yesterday here in cold Finland but the box was empty. Someone had stole it in the supply chain.. However longislandwatch was really fair and sent me a new one! Have you tgv ever experienced this?
For that reason I make unboxing videos, before I use the knife at the opening I meticulously record the parcel from all the angles. There is nothing worse than be stolen and even have over you the suspicion of being a con man. By the way: greetings from the sunny Spain ;-)
Perico De Lospalotes Gracias hermano! I'm about to order my first watch and was worried about theft. Your idea of recording the unboxing is a great way to ensure you're not suspected of trying to scam the seller!
Happy that you have got a new one. It would be so nice, if you could please inform me the weights of orient mako II with and without bracelet. Thanks in advance.
Why don't you order from Europe, there is a fantastic dealer in the Netherlands, official dealer, meaning you also get an international Orient warranty. Delivery is free and shipping is by some sort of courier to your door, no chance of getting lost/stolen. Was it that much cheaper from the US with postage included? I won't advertise here, but you can search for "orient official dealer netherlands".
I have Orient Ray 2 in Blue, i love it. Lucky to get one on sale. I'm really into watches now, I have one totally different watch I'm going to buy next time.
Got Mako II Pepsi. Beautiful blue dial, blue bezel. Because it`s pepsi I have plenty option of straps, belts, bracelet. Absolutely you can`t go wrong with this watch. Keeps +8s on wrist as you said or +4s as is lie in the box on the counterside of the crown..
Great vid. BTW, you don't need to cut the F91 strap off. On the strap are arrows, push the pin in that direction (through the case hole) and they just pop out. I've just done mine.
+magicrising Saldy mine refused to come out, the entire spring bar broke doing so, I think I got a bad batch of Casio, anyways, hopefully they are not all like that. Thank you, Best regards, TGV
If I had to choose a Ray II, I would definitely go for the blue. The hour markers look really nice and I don't think I can get accustomed to actual numbers on a diver other than the rotating bezel (SKX, Sub, Monster style). With that said, even though the 2 o'clock date pusher is gone, I think that gave it a unique style. It seems a little too similar to the Sub. Overall, I loved the video TGV. You maximized your time by wearing a new strap and watch, and you maximized my time by putting them into an informational video!
You know, I really like the Ray. A bit too similar to my Seamasters for me to own but I've bought quite a few for friends who wanted a good auto. The Ray 2, though missing the 2 o'clock pusher which I liked, looks very nice. In regards to 20 vs 22mm, I much prefer the broader bands. I wear the Japanese divers on NATOs, I think it just looks nicer on 22. Keep up the good work TGV!
Its Ernie again! It's great you really take him out on nice long walks, it's obvious that he loves you so much! I love the new leather straps from WCWC, the thick contrast coloured stitching looks very nautical and summer looking! The Orient's blue dial is indeed hypnotic, very deep blue but quite vibrant that its never mistaken for navy or black - almost an electric/navy blue. Great review as always!
+idylle♡doll Thank you so much, being in a city, he needs extra long walks, only wish I could take him to my cottage in the UK, he would go crazy with happiness!!! Best regards, TGV
any recommendations for metal straps for the Ray II? I found the Ray II with the rubber strap at half price locally, so it's a no brainer to go gor it, but I really want to have it with a metal strap with curved end links
Love the new Orient Blue Ray II! My Black and Blue Ray Is were my first foray into mechanicals (and automatics), and it's great to see Orient refreshing this model with a new hacking/handwinding movement, a cleaner, crisper case and improved bezel. Think I am going to have to pick up the blue on and put my gorgeous Ocean Blue Bob Marino strap with deployant clasp on it. Pure Class! Thanks for the review, TGV!
I just got my Ray II in blue today from Long Island Watch. Very happy so far, but it's my first auto watch. My wife will probably be sending you some hate mail soon! I was surprised by the bracelet. I wasn't expecting much, and it was nicer then I though it would be. Nevertheless, I will still put it on NATOs. I believe this isn't a new movement, just new to to mako and Ray. Thanks for the great vids and inspiration for me to get my first automatic watch!
[neighbors in NYC, look out the window] "Honey! Come here, look it's happening again... that man with the dog is back... he keeps walking back and forth with a camera on the ground.... what is he doing?" The marathon strap is beautiful... I'm also disappointed in the stamped clasp for THAT price... BUT, as far as clasps go, once you close the clasp in any bracelet, it's easily forgiven. I love the american seal engraving. Worth the price! I think you found the right bracelet for your gold Tudor... You gotta stop with the crazy colors, that Tudor needs a classy leather to shine on it's own. I would love to see a live show with Federico... I like the troll guy too, but I'll be honest, Federico is the truth. He's straight legit.
+Fred T LOL Great comment, thank you Fred. I got to say, thats what I like about NYC, nobody cares, I could be dressed a big bird playing a trumpet walking back and fourth with a baby T-rex and nobody would bat an eye lid ;-) Best regards, TGV
Thanks for the informative video. Can you tell me what the painting is at 1:47? I've seen it in several videos and have been trying to find out, thanks.
+Matt Owens Thank you, I actually had the "wallpaper pack" for free download" not so long ago as a gift for the viewers, That one I am not actually sure, its an Art Deco poster I found by accident while searching for graphics to work with for a project. I will be putting the wallpaper for download hopefully again soon. Best regards, TGV
+The Urban Gentry Hi TRV...Pat here from Dublin, if you got a chance could you advice me or give me some tips on starting my own channel...as you can see I haven't actually uploaded anything yet. waiting on some equipment to arrive. Thanks in advance ...Pat.
Does the ray II feels big on your wrist or tacky on your wrist?, been thinking of this watch if i should buy this or no because it might overwhelm or takeover my wrist My wrist size i think is 6 inch to 6 and 1/4 max
Question: I am looking for a beater to bring with me to college, and cannot decide between the seiko snk809 and the skx007. Should i drop the additional cash for the skx007 now or should I buy the snk809 and wait to grab the diver until a later date?
+Alex P YESSSSS the extra cash is worth it, buy an icon! A true diver ISO certified diver!!!!! Trust me Alex, Happy hunting, Thank you, Best regards, TGV
I ordered a blue Mako II because of the blue dial and I like the arabic numerals on the 12, 6, and 9 positions. After wearing it two weeks, I wish I had gone with the Seiko SKX007. The bezel is almost impossible to turn, making it useless as a dive watch. I tried to fix it by taking off the bezel to apply silicon grease and cut the gasket, doh! While I'm waiting on a replacement gasket, I've noticed a rattle from one of the false lugs. I'm just going to put it on a leather strap at this point and start saving for a real dive watch, Marathon JSAR or JDD.
Very tempted to ask for a Ray 2 for Christmas as my first foray in to a winding watch. Any recommendations for replace straps in the UK? Will of course wait to see how I feel about the standard bracelet first
For ordinary people, this watches are high-end beauties ! Especialy the blue dial Ray 2 !A very good watch in accuracy and water resistance, and looks of course !
I am considering getting the Orient mako II in the blue color way. Would you recommend that watch as a starter watch? And if not what do you think would be a better option? Thanks
I'm torn... $200 and you can get the Mako II with a Pepsi bezel on Amazon, but it feels sketchy and I can only find the ref # on non-usa websites. Or just get the blue and put it on a matching blue NATO strap.
I just threw myself in the water with the Orient Ray Raven II. I was between that and the Bulova 92B245 Chrono, also a “black” watch. But, I placed my bet and I think in the Raven will be more valuable.
Love these. But the only thing I have against NATO straps (Which I do love by the way) is that they make the watch sit higher, and with an already thick / deep watch case, this can then make me feel concerned about bashing it on doorways etc...
+Captain Rambunctious I know exactly what you mean, I think the Breitling may be the tallest watch, I guess we will have to get rid of all the doorways! LOL, Thank you Best regards, TGV
Fantastic video! I'm thinking of the Orient Ray in blue as a gift for my son. I was originally looking at the Mako USA but I didn't like how the crystal sat below the bezel. Have you ever considered doing a video on watch maintenance and servicing? Where, when, and the cost of servicing various levels of watch?
What does tgv stand for? Anyway, love the channel, gonna order my first watches soon, so hooray! This channel really reinforced my interest and got me hooked on watches for good I’d say! Keep it up mate!
The blue Orient model is the "Ray" and the black one is the "Mako" Design :) So it's now hackable, manual winding and they got rid of the pusher now.... So it pretty much beats the SKX now.
+VinceFull Yes, spot on. I can confirm the Blue as the title and video say is the Ray and the black is the Mako :D Skin diver vs an ISO certified icon with decades of proven heritage? Are you sure? LOL Just kidding, what matter is what you feel is right! Thanks for watching, Best regards, TGV
So I just bought the Mako ii. Fantastic watch, but as you mentioned... Im not a fan of the bracelet. Is there a half decent replacement bracelet that will be a nice upgrade without being 200$ like the marathon? Looking for like 50$, if thats not possible thats ok. I'll get a silicone strap other wise (not interested in NATO style straps, not my cup of tea sorry).
Is it a blue one or black ? I haven't found any oyster bracelet that fits out of the box. But I found hammer head bracelet from yobokies, will fit with some adjustments.
Great video Tristano. Just a thought with the strap on the Casio. I wonder if you could simply push the lug pin out as one does with a Swatch. Its got lug holes so it makes me think one could do that. Perhaps if you did not try this give it a go to see if that can be done to save others cutting their straps. Ciao.
+ianmedium Believe me I tried and tried, ended up braking the spring bar and unable to fit it back in, the only way was to cut off the straps sadly. Thank you, Best regards, TGV
Oh, and I should add that I also own a Seiko SKX173. Between the 173 and the black Ray II, I tend to wear the Ray II more. I don't know if it's because it's brand new, or because, like you said, it's more refined and easier to wear. The SKX is a bit bulky, and more so just brute elegance. I work in an office and wear the Ray II with nicer clothes and the SKX on weekends.
Came here because I'm looking for a watch to take to Europe with me during my summer travels. I want something around $200, able to use for swimming (so at least 100 m resistance), lume, and able to be dressed up a bit. I will be wearing it at almost all times. I was thinking ray 2, mako, or skx, but am open to more recommendations.
great video as usual ، I have 2 question out of topic, why all watch maker put time 10:10 at all pictures of advertising? 2nd I love homage look of Rolex submariner but it's to Expensive so if I want the same look and dimensions under 300$ what's your recommendation,there brand name is invicta 200m water resistant with same look and dimensions of Rolex submariner , it's looks great really, what do you think about it ?
The Zulu Diver strap on the casio looks great, it is from WatchGecko. Much prefer them to the ones from Wrist Candy Watch Club, find there straps a little short, not long enough to sit into the second keeper on the Nato, keeps fliping out.
I've purchased from Milano Watch Bands a few times before and have been very pleased with their service! I was excited to see the new leather NATOs from WCWC a week or so ago, but to be honest, was disappointed to see the price. I can buy a variety of Colarebs for less. Since you've experienced both, perhaps the quality isn't the same between them, which might justify the cost? I love both Orients. I just checked Long Island and saw they had a combination of the two: blue dial with the numbers of the black dial. Nice!
+Ken Cooper So glad to hear, that you. I feel rather late to the "Milano" party, you should of told me Ken!!! LOL ;-) As for the price of the WCWC, I agree I would pick a Colareb too, they really are king of the leather straps for me, but then they don't do a one piece to for me the price is justified, even if a tad high. Best regards, TGV
Hi TGV - I've been enjoying my blue Mako USA. I agree that Orient is a good make for the price point. I enjoy switching out straps with it. I've been using Ostrich straps for a couple of years now and on the right watch they really pop. Cheers!
Ordered a black Orient Ray ii as my first mechanical and high end (for me anyway) watch, looking forward to it! 30th b-day present for myself ;)
I ordered the blue Orient Ray II as a 39th birthday present to myself :) Should be arriving tomorrow! I hope you're enjoying yours. Cheers!
What did you think of your Blue Orient Ray?
Hello Jesse D.L. It would be very nice of you, if you could please inform me weights of Orient Ray II with and without bracelet. Thanks in advance
You should be aware that the Orient is a Chinese watch with a Japanese movement
Orient is owned by seiko so it's japanese enough, and with current pricing it easily outvalues the skx line.
I'm really taken by the Orient Blue Ray II. Really beautiful. Thanks for the opportunity to see this watch...love the colors
+Mark_B Thank you!
Best regards,
TGV
The more I look at it the more I love it. It's so beautiful, under $200, automatic, hackable, it shows the date and the day of the week, it's a strap monster and it's perfectly sized. I swear to god I am going to buy this watch as soon as I can. Love it.
Just a note to save a second if anyone wants to add a NATO to their Casio F91W :
You'll need spring bars for starters as the watch comes with straight pins on the rubber strap, but more importantly the strap will probably not slip through once the bars are in place, it is necessary to put the strap in place and then squeeze the spring bar in on top of it for both bars. A light folding of the strap in the places the bars will go will help because the cavity for the strap is at a right angle. I just did mine, i took me a minute to figure this out
+Masterpsflood Grat stuff, thank you for adding that!
Best regards,
TGV
The black and blue Orient are not both "Ray" watches. The blue one is a Ray and the black one is the Mako. They have both been updated; most notably losing the day pusher.
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That's the only visual difference between the original and updated version correct? The update gave hand winding and hacking as well
Blurry Face The Blue is a lighter shade that shows more sunburst even in lower light conditions.
You are correct. One is a Mako and one is a Ray
I've owned both the Blue Ray 1 and 2, and have been unbelievably happy with the purchases. I get more compliments on my Ray than I do with watches 5 times the price. It's versatile and reliable. I can wear it on a nice nato in the summer and let that sunburst dial stand out, or on vacation on a rubber strap. If you are considering this watch, do not hesitate. Although the SKX has the cult-like following, this watch is far superior in styling and versatility. If you hand them to any average Joe, they'll choose the Ray over the SKX.
Sounds like the Blue Ray is a keeper. Do you have a Seiko snkl23? They say that it looks really expensive.
I notice you always criticize the Orient divers having a 22mm lug width, but you don't seem to have the same problem with the SKX which has always been 22mm. Any reason?
+mkygod I think the skx has a case width of 43, so the extra 2 mm might balance out the size of the lug width?
most watches over 40 mm looks better with 22mm lug width anyways otherwise it looks unbalanced with natos or unnotched leather imo
The term 'Seiko Fan Boi' kinda sums it up. POS movement that's not accurate, doesn't hack, doesn't hand-wind? "Minor issue" says a Seiko Fan Boi "... it's .... it's a Seiko!" Orient has a (much) better movement which is all three? "Untested" says a Seiko Fan Boi. What we got here is a genuine Seiko Fan Boi ... obnoxiously pretentious accent included for free.
Dude's a fucking caricature.
I San Gui isnt orient like a subsidiary of seiko? Lol.
I San Gui I never understood that big deal with hacking, your watch is going to be +/- a few seconds so it still won’t be accurate
The reason the dials on the Orient's were different was because they are two different watches! The blue dial is an Orient Ray 2 and the black dial one was the Orient Mako 2!
+Ben Kite Yes, the Blue one is an Orient II and the black one is the Mako, just to confirm. Sorry I should of made that clear.
Thanks for watching,
Best regards,
TGV
+The Urban Gentry Also the lume was better on the ray because it was an upgrade to the Orient Mako and one of the upgrades was the lume.
Overall great review this was the final push I needed to get the new ray.
+Ben Kite Fantastic, makes sense, having said that, the Mako wasn't too bad.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
Best bracelets that I'm aware of for both the Ray 2 and Mako 2 are made by Miltat and sold by Strapcode. Solid end links, screwed not pinned, oyster or endmill, choice of clasp style. $~90-100. Well worth the money. Crystal times sells a variety of sapphire crystals specifically for Ray/Mako's 25 for flat 40 for a double dome. AR coating options. So for about $300 you can sport a watch that has pretty much every 'box checked' as far as commonly desired features.
Hi TGV! It’s been less than 6 months since I stumbled upon your channel, and today I just got my first mechanical watch! The Orient Ray 2 Blue! Thank you so much gentry for introducing me to the world of horology. I still have much to learn!
I bought an Orient Mako II with blue dial. Personally, I prefer the Mako's 12, 6, and 9 numerals, the dashes rather than the dots, as well as the style of the hands compared to the Ray's offerings.
Much less of an homage as well, compared to the Ray. Not against homages, but if it's classy and well priced, why not go more original?👍
i agree, the only problem with the mako 2 IMO is the bezel font is really lame... feels almost like someone forgot to load the font that was required and it just got printed with a basic default font.
I ordered my Orient Mako II in Jan. 2018. I ordered Benchmark Strap 22mm Navy Blue Oiled Leather NATO Watchband. I wear the watch all day and just take it off when showering. It runs about 3 seconds fast per day and never needs winding or attention. It's been extremely reliable and the leather band has the secondary strap which makes it ultra comfortable.
The only thing I did was take it to a jeweler and have them install heavy-duty oversized strap pins. This was necessary because the stock pins aren't reliable when the nato band is flexed, they come off. With the new pins, they are solid as a rock. Also, I put the strap on reversed so the clasp is on the inside of my wrist. This works much better because it doesn't snag and is much easier to put on.
It was a great investment and I paid just $158.00 on Amazon through Island Watch. It's been a great experience and I have recommended it to several people already.
I think the only other thing I'm going to do is get some more Nato straps and have my jeweler install a sapphire crystal, which should cost around $40.
If you are consistent, like me and wear the watch all day, and if the timing error is consistent, you can take it to a jeweler and they can adjust it in any position and remove the error. When that's done, the watch will run at the correct time when you are wearing it. That is an improvement that will bring the watch up to a much higher spec. I abhor having a watch that needs batteries. Some silver oxide batteries only last a year or even less and they seem to always surprise you at the wrong time when they die.
I have bought the Mako II 4 months ago. It is my everyday watch and I just love it. I really enjoy it even if it's not the most accurate of my watches, I know, you said it runs 7/8seconds faster per day, but give it time LOL, that will increase.
I have the sunburst blu dial which really plays with the sun, creating a magnificent effect.
Excellent point, the bracelet it's not bad as you said, it's just a shame it has hollow end links, in fact I wear mine on a rubber nato. I agree too on the fact it should have a 20mm lug width, it would look much better.
Fantastic video indeed, TGV.
Best regards,
Michele.
The Orient blue dial is dreamy
+Dean Spence It is indeed! Cheers Dean,
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TGV
Thanks for the review. I picked up a Pepsi Mako 2 for 80 Euros (as new, just returned to the store by the previous buyer) off eBay as my first mechanical watch and I'm loving the experience so far.
I came here cause I’m about to receive a Mako II I ordered. And thanks to yours words of wisdom I know made the right decision.
I love seeing my old neighborhood highlighted in your intro's.
I've had my bkue Mako 2 for a year now, and I still like it.It has a few drawbacks like you mentioned, like the hollow end links, mineral crystal, if you're not extra carefully uou will strip the screw down crown, and the biggest part it is cased in China! I have plenty of SNK'S and a second gen Orange Monster for my tool watches that I enjoy. This is my multifunction dress watch now. I often come in need of the timing bezel when wearing a dress watch, so this fits the bill perfectly!
Just ordered a pepsi dial Mako II. Hopefully it turns out to be the watch I absolutely love.
I really want a Mako II with the seconds hand from the Blue Ray, and the bezel from a SKX007K
I got this blue ray 2 this week, and i love it. The color, the movement. FYI I always ride motocycle everyday and this watch can handle it. Sadly, i've got none skx watch. So I can't compare it. Thank's for the review. Good job
Just bought a Mako II, I'll share my thoughts when it arrives. My first diver style watch. I thoroughly enjoy your channel keep up the great videos.
Beautiful music at the start.
LOL, I've started wearing two watches following your (bad) example! The story is: I recently found a derelict, vintage 1970's LED watch by Benrus in my father's junk depot. The bracelet was missing, but after putting the batteries (LED watches need 2 batteries) it worked instantly, so I decided to rescue it. Fitted a new NATO strap, et voilà! I wear it on my left wrist (even if I'm not left-handed, I wear my main watch on my right wrist), and I set it on the time zone of the place where the lady I love lives, so that every time I look at it and see what time is it, I think of her. :)
+Luca Simoncini Outstanding comment my friend, enjoy it! Congrats on your LED watch rescue,
Thank you Luca,
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TGV
Seems better than the Skx
Watch it there son
Both the orient and seiko are trash watches. Both will break and become unserviceable due to lack of original parts
Both are in house movements thought
And it is. The only thing it does lack is "cult factor" which is meaningless outside Seiko Fan Bubble 😉
@@Ferien7 woah woah hold on there buddy. Seiko and orient have a reliable movement theres tons of original parts for it. Like 7S26 have tons of parts. Seems like you're a Swiss Watch fanboy
I've had my Mako II now for a week and I love it! (it's my first diving watch) The finishing is gorgeous and it is alot more refined than the previous model. So far i've measured it loses about 4-5 sec/day, which for a $180 watch you can't complain.
+Peter Anderson So glad to hear, thank you Peter!
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TGV
pleaseee make a comparison video of the new Blue Ray II vs the skx.
+Weblider Great idea! Thank you
I will see what I can do,
Stay tuned I guess!
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TGV
Thank you very much for the respond, mu favorite youtuber!
I still throw my RayII on regularly...Just an all round good looking watch. I only paid $130 which is outstanding and probably the best value of any of my collection. I also find that there is no need to change it out, if you do not want to , for any occasion! I can’t say that about My Oris or Hamilton...
Hi TGV the differences are nothing to do with the colour. The blue is the Ray and the Black is the Mako, there are multiple colours for both.
+yfzi Great thank you. Yes, they come in different colours.
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I just bought the Orient Ray 2, thank you very much sir!
the ostrich strap is made by Morellato, and that's what the m on the buckle stands for. I live near Florence and the brand is very common here, you can find big selections of straps at most of the local jewellers. Great quality and great price point!
+Francesco Papi Thank you for watching,
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TGV
+The Urban Gentry Thank you, great content as always!
where do you buy the orient red and blue nato strap from?
listen
Can't go wrong with those Orient Makos. I own one about 5 years old with a blue face & "Pepsi" bezel. The band was rubber and stiff so I replaced it with a ss shark mesh. Just a great all around sport watch. The in house automatic movement is fantastic. Love that watch.
+Michael Francalanzo Thank you Michael, great to hear, bet it looks cool on the mesh, good to hear 5 years and its still going strong!
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TGV
Michael Francalanzo is it still running?
I have a Mako USA, pretty annoying that the Mako II and Ray II didn't get solid endlinks and a sapphire crystal like the USA.
Thank you for watching,, I agree.
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TGV
What's worse, Orient said they discontinued the Mako USA for good, and Squale confirmed to me in an email that the 20 Atmos 1545 is discontinued as well. WHAT THE HELL
Beautiful intro music sir, what's the name please? How about a Spotify playlist?
+Mont Blanc Thank you, not sure the track name but its one this album...
th-cam.com/video/3_Iky1OU-Nw/w-d-xo.html
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TGV
For the first time, you reviewed a piece that I actually owned! Much more than that, I learned, in the video that it had manual winding. That is a great feature (orient mako II)
i ordered my blue mako 2 yesterday around 10pm after school and cant wait for it to arrive :D
How has it been?
How has it been?
How has it been?
Just ordered the Orient Ray II in black this Thursday, I'm genuinely excited as it will be my introduction piece to horology.
Thank you TGV for making these amazing videos!
Kind Regards!
Ben
Little things like innovating the intro makes videos so much more interesting; you can really feel the effort put in to making it. Great job!
+Fahim Mustafa Thank you so much, very kind :D
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TGV
Finally settled on a purchase. My 3 options were the Ray 2, Stuhrling Regatta and the Accutron Alpha. Eliminated the Regatta first because quality isn't consistent, and thought hard about how well the exposed Alpha went with my wardrobe. I couldn't choose between the Alpha and Ray 2, but settled for the latter because I needed something for everyday wear first. Once I get my first paycheck (Turning 18 soon so I don't have to worry about spending money I make on food and housing yet) I'll spend 200 and get the Alpha. Collection limit is 5 and with this Ray I'll be at my 3rd serious watch and first automatic
I bought the Raven Ray 2 version a few months back, I absolutely love it, wasn't sure about the strap so I swapped it for a bond nato, much better, couldn't be happier
+Alan Hegarty Bet it looks super on the bond nato :D
Keep enjoying it! Thank you Alan,
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TGV
It does seem better than an SKX to me. I really don't like the SKX's 4 o'clock crown.. I know it's an icon but I just find the Mako 2 so much better looking.
Would just like to say thanks for the advice you provide and your hard effort you put into your channel. Just recieved an Orient Ray 2 after making a decision based on your advice. Its badass! Keep up the good work.
FYI you can push the pins out in the direction of the arrows on the Casio F91W stock band without cutting the strap. I'm sure someone already informed you in a previous comment.
+Paul Miller Thank you Paul, I am aware, sadly there was a fault with mine :(
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Stay Classy TGV, I enjoy your Channel. keep up the good work.
The Mako looks great on a genuine Isofrane. It's simply The Best combo for this watch I think. I used to have a Blue Mako on isofrane (since then the watch is with my dad now, and the Isofrane is on an Orient saturation Diver)
I orderes mako II from longisland watches and I was so excited. I received the box yesterday here in cold Finland but the box was empty. Someone had stole it in the supply chain.. However longislandwatch was really fair and sent me a new one! Have you tgv ever experienced this?
For that reason I make unboxing videos, before I use the knife at the opening I meticulously record the parcel from all the angles. There is nothing worse than be stolen and even have over you the suspicion of being a con man. By the way: greetings from the sunny Spain ;-)
Perico De Lospalotes Gracias hermano! I'm about to order my first watch and was worried about theft. Your idea of recording the unboxing is a great way to ensure you're not suspected of trying to scam the seller!
Happy that you have got a new one. It would be so nice, if you could please inform me the weights of orient mako II with and without bracelet. Thanks in advance.
Why don't you order from Europe, there is a fantastic dealer in the Netherlands, official dealer, meaning you also get an international Orient warranty. Delivery is free and shipping is by some sort of courier to your door, no chance of getting lost/stolen.
Was it that much cheaper from the US with postage included?
I won't advertise here, but you can search for "orient official dealer netherlands".
I have Orient Ray 2 in Blue, i love it. Lucky to get one on sale. I'm really into watches now, I have one totally different watch I'm going to buy next time.
Got Mako II Pepsi. Beautiful blue dial, blue bezel. Because it`s pepsi I have plenty option of straps, belts, bracelet. Absolutely you can`t go wrong with this watch.
Keeps +8s on wrist as you said or +4s as is lie in the box on the counterside of the crown..
Great vid. BTW, you don't need to cut the F91 strap off. On the strap are arrows, push the pin in that direction (through the case hole) and they just pop out. I've just done mine.
+magicrising Saldy mine refused to come out, the entire spring bar broke doing so, I think I got a bad batch of Casio, anyways, hopefully they are not all like that.
Thank you,
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TGV
If I had to choose a Ray II, I would definitely go for the blue. The hour markers look really nice and I don't think I can get accustomed to actual numbers on a diver other than the rotating bezel (SKX, Sub, Monster style). With that said, even though the 2 o'clock date pusher is gone, I think that gave it a unique style. It seems a little too similar to the Sub. Overall, I loved the video TGV. You maximized your time by wearing a new strap and watch, and you maximized my time by putting them into an informational video!
+Shawn T Thank you Shawn, very kind. I agree the Ray II is my pick too :D
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TGV
bought a Orient RN-AA0007L in japan- looking into replacing the strap. Very nice to see you review orient watches.
You know, I really like the Ray. A bit too similar to my Seamasters for me to own but I've bought quite a few for friends who wanted a good auto. The Ray 2, though missing the 2 o'clock pusher which I liked, looks very nice. In regards to 20 vs 22mm, I much prefer the broader bands. I wear the Japanese divers on NATOs, I think it just looks nicer on 22. Keep up the good work TGV!
Its Ernie again! It's great you really take him out on nice long walks, it's obvious that he loves you so much! I love the new leather straps from WCWC, the thick contrast coloured stitching looks very nautical and summer looking! The Orient's blue dial is indeed hypnotic, very deep blue but quite vibrant that its never mistaken for navy or black - almost an electric/navy blue. Great review as always!
+idylle♡doll Thank you so much, being in a city, he needs extra long walks, only wish I could take him to my cottage in the UK, he would go crazy with happiness!!!
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TGV
any recommendations for metal straps for the Ray II? I found the Ray II with the rubber strap at half price locally, so it's a no brainer to go gor it, but I really want to have it with a metal strap with curved end links
When I took off the strap of my Casio I pushed the pin out from the side like when sizing a regular bracelet.
+Mike R Sadly mine was not so easy, must of been a fault with the Casio batch I got.
Oh well,
Thank you,
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TGV
Love the new Orient Blue Ray II! My Black and Blue Ray Is were my first foray into mechanicals (and automatics), and it's great to see Orient refreshing this model with a new hacking/handwinding movement, a cleaner, crisper case and improved bezel. Think I am going to have to pick up the blue on and put my gorgeous Ocean Blue Bob Marino strap with deployant clasp on it. Pure Class! Thanks for the review, TGV!
I just got my Ray II in blue today from Long Island Watch. Very happy so far, but it's my first auto watch. My wife will probably be sending you some hate mail soon! I was surprised by the bracelet. I wasn't expecting much, and it was nicer then I though it would be. Nevertheless, I will still put it on NATOs. I believe this isn't a new movement, just new to to mako and Ray. Thanks for the great vids and inspiration for me to get my first automatic watch!
[neighbors in NYC, look out the window] "Honey! Come here, look it's happening again... that man with the dog is back... he keeps walking back and forth with a camera on the ground.... what is he doing?"
The marathon strap is beautiful... I'm also disappointed in the stamped clasp for THAT price... BUT, as far as clasps go, once you close the clasp in any bracelet, it's easily forgiven. I love the american seal engraving. Worth the price!
I think you found the right bracelet for your gold Tudor... You gotta stop with the crazy colors, that Tudor needs a classy leather to shine on it's own.
I would love to see a live show with Federico... I like the troll guy too, but I'll be honest, Federico is the truth. He's straight legit.
+Fred T LOL
Great comment, thank you Fred. I got to say, thats what I like about NYC, nobody cares, I could be dressed a big bird playing a trumpet walking back and fourth with a baby T-rex and nobody would bat an eye lid ;-)
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Thanks for the informative video. Can you tell me what the painting is at 1:47? I've seen it in several videos and have been trying to find out, thanks.
+Matt Owens Thank you, I actually had the "wallpaper pack" for free download" not so long ago as a gift for the viewers,
That one I am not actually sure, its an Art Deco poster I found by accident while searching for graphics to work with for a project.
I will be putting the wallpaper for download hopefully again soon.
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TGV
F-91W for the win!
+arhada Thank you :D
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TGV
My Orient watches have SS Bracelets I bought from Watchadoo in Austrailia. Very high quality IMO from 60 to 110 USD plus shipping from Austrailia.
5-link Engineer mat finished.
I personally prefer the straight ends.
+Vigilante Driver hey sorry to bother you but can I just ask, is the orient mako windable? Thanks.
This level of Orient watches are not windable with the crown; only by swinging back and forth. For me, that is not a problem.
The mako II is windable. So is the Ray II. I have a Ray II (the Raven with the black PVD coating), and it is awesome. I would highly recommend it.
You can take the strap of the f91w without cutting it just push the pins out i have done it many times
+Alison Drennan Thank you, sadly mine didn't want to co-operate at all! :-(
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+The Urban Gentry it's great there only a tenner cheap as chips
New orient looks well refined from the black ray raven....Casio looked great aswell on the camo type NATO....
+The Master Plumbing & Gas Channel Thank you :D
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TGV
+The Urban Gentry Hi TRV...Pat here from Dublin, if you got a chance could you advice me or give me some tips on starting my own channel...as you can see I haven't actually uploaded anything yet. waiting on some equipment to arrive. Thanks in advance ...Pat.
Is the new Orient Ray only in blue? Will they make it in full gray like the original ray raven?
+Mark I think they have both colours, as for the gray, not sure yet.
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Does the ray II feels big on your wrist or tacky on your wrist?, been thinking of this watch if i should buy this or no because it might overwhelm or takeover my wrist
My wrist size i think is 6 inch to 6 and 1/4 max
Question: I am looking for a beater to bring with me to college, and cannot decide between the seiko snk809 and the skx007. Should i drop the additional cash for the skx007 now or should I buy the snk809 and wait to grab the diver until a later date?
+Alex P YESSSSS the extra cash is worth it, buy an icon! A true diver ISO certified diver!!!!!
Trust me Alex,
Happy hunting,
Thank you,
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TGV
+The Urban Gentry I appreciate the feedback and enjoy the content! Thank you for the guidance and fan service my friend!
I ordered a blue Mako II because of the blue dial and I like the arabic numerals on the 12, 6, and 9 positions. After wearing it two weeks, I wish I had gone with the Seiko SKX007. The bezel is almost impossible to turn, making it useless as a dive watch. I tried to fix it by taking off the bezel to apply silicon grease and cut the gasket, doh! While I'm waiting on a replacement gasket, I've noticed a rattle from one of the false lugs. I'm just going to put it on a leather strap at this point and start saving for a real dive watch, Marathon JSAR or JDD.
could you guide me to that blue and red strap you have on your ray ii? ive seen mostly ones that the colors arent dark enough.
Why all the hate for hollow end-links?
The Orient is a really great watch. Thanks for showing.
Very tempted to ask for a Ray 2 for Christmas as my first foray in to a winding watch. Any recommendations for replace straps in the UK? Will of course wait to see how I feel about the standard bracelet first
TGV,
I noticed the Ray II in this video has a black day. I've only seen red day Ray II sold. Any advice on where to find a black day Ray II?
All of the days are black except for Sunday, which is Red.
For ordinary people, this watches are high-end beauties ! Especialy the blue dial Ray 2 !A very good watch in accuracy and water resistance, and looks of course !
I am considering getting the Orient mako II in the blue color way. Would you recommend that watch as a starter watch? And if not what do you think would be a better option? Thanks
YES!!! Absolutely, I think it is almost the perfect place to start, go for it!
Enjoy!
Thank you,
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TGV
I'm torn... $200 and you can get the Mako II with a Pepsi bezel on Amazon, but it feels sketchy and I can only find the ref # on non-usa websites. Or just get the blue and put it on a matching blue NATO strap.
Hi TGV, was there no direction arrow on the Casio strap?
Is there a chance for the crown to break because of that wiggle when its pulled out all the way? Thank you.
I just threw myself in the water with the Orient Ray Raven II. I was between that and the Bulova 92B245 Chrono, also a “black” watch. But, I placed my bet and I think in the Raven will be more valuable.
My wife high jacked my F-91 on a nato strap. My Seiko Monster has allot of wrist time now 😂.
Haha, fantastic!
Enjoy. Thank you,
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TGV
Love these. But the only thing I have against NATO straps (Which I do love by the way) is that they make the watch sit higher, and with an already thick / deep watch case, this can then make me feel concerned about bashing it on doorways etc...
+Captain Rambunctious I know exactly what you mean, I think the Breitling may be the tallest watch, I guess we will have to get rid of all the doorways! LOL, Thank you
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TGV
Fantastic video! I'm thinking of the Orient Ray in blue as a gift for my son. I was originally looking at the Mako USA but I didn't like how the crystal sat below the bezel.
Have you ever considered doing a video on watch maintenance and servicing? Where, when, and the cost of servicing various levels of watch?
Do you think a neon yellow strap would look good on the Casio f-91w?
+Muammar Gaddafi Why not! Sounds like a great idea!
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TGV, do you know what type of lume Orient uses on its watches? It looks like superluminova C3 but not sure...
Want to buy Ray 2 this week and I still dont know to choose blue or black version
What does tgv stand for? Anyway, love the channel, gonna order my first watches soon, so hooray! This channel really reinforced my interest and got me hooked on watches for good I’d say! Keep it up mate!
Ray 2 all day
I bought a yellow f 91W for fun for the summer 😁 am going to put a rubber strap on it. It's amazing how much such a cheap watch can do!
+luke.gear Excellent idea! I think I will do the same,
Thank you Luke,
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The blue Orient model is the "Ray" and the black one is the "Mako" Design :)
So it's now hackable, manual winding and they got rid of the pusher now.... So it pretty much beats the SKX now.
+VinceFull Yes, spot on. I can confirm the Blue as the title and video say is the Ray and the black is the Mako :D
Skin diver vs an ISO certified icon with decades of proven heritage? Are you sure? LOL
Just kidding, what matter is what you feel is right!
Thanks for watching,
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TGV
So I just bought the Mako ii. Fantastic watch, but as you mentioned... Im not a fan of the bracelet.
Is there a half decent replacement bracelet that will be a nice upgrade without being 200$ like the marathon? Looking for like 50$, if thats not possible thats ok. I'll get a silicone strap other wise (not interested in NATO style straps, not my cup of tea sorry).
Watchadoo 60 dollars
Is it a blue one or black ? I haven't found any oyster bracelet that fits out of the box. But I found hammer head bracelet from yobokies, will fit with some adjustments.
Great video Tristano. Just a thought with the strap on the Casio. I wonder if you could simply push the lug pin out as one does with a Swatch. Its got lug holes so it makes me think one could do that.
Perhaps if you did not try this give it a go to see if that can be done to save others cutting their straps. Ciao.
+ianmedium Believe me I tried and tried, ended up braking the spring bar and unable to fit it back in, the only way was to cut off the straps sadly.
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Ahh shoot. Have a look at a post I just made on the FB page if that helps.
Hi! Give me advice, what is the best buy for Mako 2, RAY II BLACK or RAY II BLACK PVD??? Thank you!
I Got the Orange on the Mako II Looks Nice and , I also Got a Black Seiko Scuba Diver .... Nice No Matter What One You Pick , Cheers !!
Oh, and I should add that I also own a Seiko SKX173. Between the 173 and the black Ray II, I tend to wear the Ray II more. I don't know if it's because it's brand new, or because, like you said, it's more refined and easier to wear. The SKX is a bit bulky, and more so just brute elegance. I work in an office and wear the Ray II with nicer clothes and the SKX on weekends.
+Red Beard Good idea, I agree it wears much better.
I think your setup for weekend/weekends sounds perfect.
Thanks for sharing,
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TGV
Came here because I'm looking for a watch to take to Europe with me during my summer travels. I want something around $200, able to use for swimming (so at least 100 m resistance), lume, and able to be dressed up a bit. I will be wearing it at almost all times.
I was thinking ray 2, mako, or skx, but am open to more recommendations.
great video as usual ، I have 2 question out of topic, why all watch maker put time 10:10 at all pictures of advertising? 2nd I love homage look of Rolex submariner but it's to Expensive so if I want the same look and dimensions under 300$ what's your recommendation,there brand name is invicta 200m water resistant with same look and dimensions of Rolex submariner , it's looks great really, what do you think about it ?
The Zulu Diver strap on the casio looks great, it is from WatchGecko. Much prefer them to the ones from Wrist Candy Watch Club, find there straps a little short, not long enough to sit into the second keeper on the Nato, keeps fliping out.
Got my Orient blue ray 2 and it's f*&# handsome, my skx has more character but they both great in my opinion.
Ray 2 has more character !
Perhaps a Strapcode OEM replacement bracelet is due for a review?
As always, best content in the industry, old chap.
Ciao, Trist.
+Fabio Cassano Too kind my friend. Very flattered.
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I've purchased from Milano Watch Bands a few times before and have been very pleased with their service!
I was excited to see the new leather NATOs from WCWC a week or so ago, but to be honest, was disappointed to see the price. I can buy a variety of Colarebs for less. Since you've experienced both, perhaps the quality isn't the same between them, which might justify the cost?
I love both Orients. I just checked Long Island and saw they had a combination of the two: blue dial with the numbers of the black dial. Nice!
+Ken Cooper So glad to hear, that you. I feel rather late to the "Milano" party, you should of told me Ken!!! LOL ;-)
As for the price of the WCWC, I agree I would pick a Colareb too, they really are king of the leather straps for me, but then they don't do a one piece to for me the price is justified, even if a tad high.
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+The Urban Gentry You're right. I hadn't considered the fact that it's a longer single piece of leather which typically is more expensive.
Hi TGV - I've been enjoying my blue Mako USA. I agree that Orient is a good make for the price point. I enjoy switching out straps with it. I've been using Ostrich straps for a couple of years now and on the right watch they really pop. Cheers!
+John Viano Thank you John, rather new to Ostrich myself but loving it so far!
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