Recently sold my entire "collection" and bought my grail, an IWC Ingenieur 40. Had to add a Casio W86 for beater duty and never been happier. Good health TGV.
I see nothing wrong with what Teddy is doing, he shoots the best footage of watches I'm interested in and also sell watches as an AD. It is refreshing to be able to watch a video about a watch without listening to some rambling about being a gentlemen or trivia I'm not interested in.
I can't see anyone watching Teddy's channel and not see he's paid by certain brands. He goes all in on some obscure brand for a while and it stops all of a sudden , never to be mentioned again. That is a paid marketing campain. Period. I cannot respect that when it is not made VERY clear by the channel.
Hi TGV, good advice and as an OG, I can confirm this has been your stance for nearly a decade now. It has helped guide me these past years and firmly believe it's best to save for the watch you truly want. Cheers! John
I do not have an issue with Aliexpress watches if you understand what you are getting. A few are really well made. Particularly if you want try out something cheap before buying the really expensive watch.
I agree, especially if the movements are good enough like Seikos, miyotas, Epson, even Seagulls. Servicing ? Forget that, they are so cheap one can buy another one or a new model if they ever fail. If one loves it so much, then just throw away the movement and replace it with a new one (no need to think of expensive servicing fees here, no hidden "tax" :)). So while earning to buy that grail watch, at least one is able to wear a nice watch or watches in the meantime. One needn't have to live so austerely while saving up to buy that grail watch. Furthermore, sometimes a homage of a grail can convince you that you really don't like the grail watch after all. On the other hand, if you like the homage so much after all, then it can motivate you more to save up for the real one.
Yes - I actually did this. I wanted a Tudor FXD Chrono but needed to know if I'd enjoy wearing one without spending trukloads to find that maybe I didn't. So I purchased a Strategic Rabbit (Tactical Frog) FXD off Aliexpress and found that I did in fact enjoy the look, which led to me purchasing a Fudor FXD Chrono a few months later. I still do wear the Strategic Rabbit sometimes - eg as a beater...
I love buying vintage inspired watches on AE. You get the vintage look but built with updated materials with a reliable Japanese movement. I have vintage watches but worn on special occasions and can’t be worn on a daily basis. My issue with UG is that some of the views are hypocritical especially towards some brands which homage no longer made watches. I came across the Island x Urban Gentry ISL-226 RangeMaster .. what a mashup of well known watches. The name a cross between Tudor and Omega , the numerals Rolex Explorer, the hands Tudor Ranger, the 24hr dial Hamilton. Does this fit into one of the categories or should there be an new category for this type of watch ?
@@wingi7722 The channel WATCHing James also has another reason for a homage. He likes a certain Panerai design, but it is a watch he will not pay for or save for, but he likes the design. It's like I like a field watch, but not enough to buy an IWC even if I can, or even a $1k Hamilton. A homage will do ...
In addition, the NH35 homages are usually simply just awesome bang for buck. I like the design of Yacht Master but most likely will never own one for obvious reasons. Let alone use one in situation where it might get banged or dropped. Or travelling, I don't like the idea of taking even remotely expensive watch with me on a holiday trip abroad. A homage will do just fine.
I always get the impression that you don't wear a smartwatch, the smartwatch wears you. It's less of a timepiece and more just another channel for "engagement," a way to gather more datapoints and tether you ever more to the increasingly "always online" world. I've never seen anyone just staring at their smartwatch because they're admiring the aesthetics, the elegance, the artistry. Great video as always! Cheers.
Nice one! That maintenance string that comes attached with watches is never enough advertised by the Internet bunch for the people to actually get it, especially in the case of mechanical watches.
At the same time, sending a Seiko to the AD every three years for a complete overhaul is nonsensical - and if it isn't, buying a mechanical Seiko in the first place is.
@@vaclav_fejt Three years may be nonsensical for a watch sitting in the box most of those years. Wearing it every day in other than office jobs may result in some issues, especially for a low tier Seiko.
The dress watch comment is spot on, why pay huge amounts for a rarely worn watch. Spend the most on the watch you wear regularly. Big fan of the ETA 2892 / Sellita 300 , a quality movement at a reasonable price. It was good ed for Omega and IWC for many years.
Preach! Preach! Excellent! Already made my comment before I watched. Now I watched the video, and I was completely in agreement. You nailed it! Stay free. Onward and upward, TGV!
I think smart watches serve a purpose especially if you’re trying to improve your fitness. The Garmin Instinct Crossover has analog hands and traditional lume, looks like a G-Shock😊
I also have the crossover, only wear it when working out or when I have a specific reason to (like paying something without being able to bring a wallet). For me it's 100% a tool I use when needed. I wear (atm) a Seamaster for daily use. Both suit me fine when needed.
Good video! I never consider Apple watch an watch. It`s more of a convenience screen for the phone. Main threat to watches would be peoples constant interest to needlessly monitor their vitals -- steps, heart rate etc. Smartrings like Oura would free peoples wrists. Lately I`ve been looking for good Eagle 7 and I have to say their market is infested with franken watches. So if anyone can guide me to a site or a video with examples of original Eagle 7`s and how to spot the franken watches better that would be nice.
Well said TGV 👏👏 It's so refreshing to hear you cut through all the background noise and crud in the watch internet world and tell it how it really us. Good stuff 👏👏👏
Dear TGV, again, a second to none production! The content is spot on in this times we are living, indeed you are a beacon to the comunity of watch lovers and for that my total respect. Your courage, passion and most importante you independence is, at least for me, an eye opening and constant learning on the journey of watch colection and to really appreciate the hobby in a positive manner! Thank You! From Portugal with respect!
Great List, i do agree with pretty much everything, i honestly feel more comfortable buying pieces i can keep in the long run at a lower cost and nice jab at the get rich quick online courses that are everywhere now a days, there is only one way to make money and it's working for real, onwards and upwards!
I enjoyed the thoughtful insights. It would be remiss of me not to add that I'm finding your John Waters' mustache to be simply marvelous darling. Keep up the good works.
It all comes down to need vs want. I need 3 watches, which I have and enjoy. I want several more ( ridiculously expensive and I’m not selling property to satisfy that want ) but that isn’t happening. Appreciate your take on all of thIs TGV ! 🍻
How difficult is it to service Hanhart watches? Mainly the HD12 and 417 ES. The ES has been a grail of mine for about 3 years and want to pull the trigger on my 40th B day in Jan.
Great question. You can actually see the people and place that will service it, along with the very stringent process on my factory tour video, here it is if you missed it: th-cam.com/video/9cGHqAPMliE/w-d-xo.html I think a 417 as a birthday and grail watch is as pure class as it gets. Congrats in advance! Please let me know how it goes, I would've to hear about it. Thank you my friend, Best regards, TGV
Thanks TGV to remind these good rules. Especially useful as I'm thinking about an Explorer sometimes next year and am pondering the pros and cons between one from Chrono24, or the cumbersomeness of putting myself in the wishlist of the AD close to me. They told me more or less one year to wait... What would you recommend me to do? A lot of Chrono24 resellers are official horologists or jewellers that have real places where one can go and see the watch in the metal... I'm hesitating, any advices welcome, in the context of Europe market, not US, if any difference it makes...
I got conned by one of those "hype/limited ed" TH-cam channels a few months ago. I even reviewed it myself when I bought it, and I loved it - for a while. Now it's running about 4 minutes fast. Their website is going down every few days, and no one is responding to emails at their company. I even tried leaving a comment in the original video, but it was ignored. Some might say I should sell it on and pass the problem to the next guy, but I can't do that. The money is gone, but I will keep that watch as a reminder to never be taken like that again. Edit: I'm going to make a video about this watch and what happened with them this week. Now I'm mad I fell for it. I'm not in this for the approval of luxury brands (or any brand). I started watching you because (a) we're both English and Italian, and (b) you are genuine in your views and reviews. I started making videos because I have some experience with journalism from console magazines in the 90s, and I thought I could use it in a different form. However, I'm starting to see the other side of this industry, and even though I lost money, I want to protect others from losing theirs.
I owned the Huawei watch, first gen, and it was probably the best looking smartwatch ever made. However, my brother got a job assembling quartz movements in the Shinola watch factory in Detroit MI. He gave me his free watch he received when they hired him since he doesnt care about watches and now thats what i wear. Love it! I could not afford a watch that 1k so im happy.
Great video and really good valid points. I have family members that have bought from several Grey Market Dealers. The one that they like is Swisswatch Expo, Moyer’s and Fox and Bailey in downtown Raleigh. They did name a couple in the DC area as well. These are folks that own Patek’s from 70s and 80s era and a few Rolex models. In any case you are correct on all your points.
Great point. Unfortunately I have had a lot of experience with them, with mixed results. The watches themselves are fine, but it's not always just about the watches. I made do a video about it one day. But with so many better options out there, I just have not had time. Thank you, Best regards, TGV
Another enlightening and grounded video, TGV. Whilst I can understand your hesitancy with gray market, when it comes to the Sub, I have much more interest in the pre-ceramic, so gray/person-to-person are pretty much the extent of my options. And even if it can sometimes be overblown, I really have no interest in the AD game. (double edit: Are you back in NYC? It's been donkeys since I've been around the watch world (I gotta do it when my finances are limited) so the last time I was in the neighborhood, you were in Philly?)
I use Clockology on my Apple Watch and have a ton of faces on it to spice it up (Rolex, AP, Omega, Longines, Richard Mille, etc.) I also plan on getting more watch bands and straps to spice up the creativity. But I understand your point with Apple Watches. I just wouldn’t have it at the top spot
Superb vid TGV. You and Sir Mountbatten outdid yourselves on this bust em in their phony corporate chops vid. Brilliant! The OS in my 1969 Heuer apparently needs an update….some bug or some such. Can’t wait for the redux! Thanks
The morphine shopping hauls were the best! Especially when you'd forgotten you'd even ordered a certain item...! Glad to hear that the health is great and those hauls are no longer necessary! Great vid, TGV
No.5 - thank you for this!No truer for 2024 can be said than for Studio Underdog. Original / quirky designs apart, is anyone else bored to the back teeth of seeing them absolutely everywhere?
Spot on! Smart watches are soulless shells. Papa Hayek got it right years ago: " A mechanical watch has a heartbeat - true soul" You feel it every time you wear it.
Great content as usual TGV. There are a few other creators out there but if I see another "top 10 Ali Express" videos in my feed I'm going to stick spring bar tools in my eyes
Great. Happy evening me love a new TGV release. Sat here with my new ML pontos S diver too. Fully agree about the ETA / Sellita thing. Both are rock solid and all the movement most of us ever really need.
Was on the “List” for about 2 yrs for a GMT. Got a call recently asking if there were any other models I was interested in. Told the AD no, as I already have two other models that I wanted. Basically was told that won’t be getting a GMT any time soon. Grabbed a neo-vintage ‘06 Coke w/ SEL’s & couldn’t be happier. I could wear it every day, as it is now the most comfortable piece I own.
Great video! I totally get the criticism of smart watches but they may evolve. I am torn with my grail watch desires. I really admire the Dornbluth & Son watches and could probably swing one but I worry about servicing it. Also in house I am looking at a Nomos Glashutte or my favorite non inhouse is a Cuervo y Sobrinos Historiador Hemingway. Totally agree on the fake watches. Its tempting but are you really going flat out lie to people when they ask you where you got it? Eventually someone who has gone through the purchase experience is going to know you its not real.
I’ve been thinking about that Hanhart Preventor ever since you released that episode. I’m just a normal middle class American and my favorite watch in my collection is the Hamilton Khaki Auto. After seeing the Hanhart you helped design, I’ve decided to sell 4 of my watches I hardly ever wear and pick it up! Keep up the great work brother!
Wow, that is a real power move. Putting aside my involvement, it's ballsy, and for a brand like that, pure class. Now adding myself back into the picture, this made my day. I am deeply honored by the gesture and choice. It shows character, good taste and the strength to act on your convictions. That is getting rare these days. I hope it brings you a life time of faithful service and adventures. Thank you so much, onwards and ever upwards. Best regards, TGV
@@theurbangentry you definitely are a man of great taste and very ethical. You’ve made my day as well ❤️ thank you for introducing me to Hanhart. I’ve been into watches for 5-6 years now and that video was my first exposure to the brand. Very underrated from what it seems!
Top notch stuff as always. How I wish that this was mandatory viewing for any budding watch collector! A younger me especially. Spot on about modern in-house movements. So pointless as they're technically no better than the ETA/Sellita/Seiko/Miyota options in their top grades. For vintage it's a different matter - I will tolerate them if the watch is exceptional. Like my 60s Hamilton with the OG micro-rotor movement invented by Buren. Onwards and upwards!
I think you're spot on.. you are staying true to your strong opinion. And I agree with you... my daily is a 2561.80 seamaster 36mm from 1993....tritium... on the steel bracelet . Total 90s Bond beauty. And I don't miss the fact that it can't tell me how many steps I've done....
I have name brands with a history (Casio, Citizen, Seiko, Timex, etc), but I know I will never spend that kind of money on a Rolex Submariner (nor will I play their games), so I’m good with my Steeldive SD1953. Great video, as always. Never any offense taken. Cheers.
Its true about "earning" a watch. I recently received an inheritance from an aunt and I finally bought a Swiss automatic. Nothing crazy, just a Tissot. It doesn't give me the same level of satisfaction as some of the cheaper Orients, seikos and Casios that I own. Instant gratification is rarely a good thing,.
I think the tide is turning with AE watches. Some are just cheap poor quality design copies but many are really good watches that truly are homages and also original designs. But anyone that places more value on heritage/history wont ever really like them but same goes for microbrands. I think they all have their place and if you know what you want then its fine. I respect you for standing up for your perspectives. Everyone has their own watch journey and we should all standby our own journey. Great video as usual! Thanks.
Hi TGV I just bought my first ever Squale 2002 100 atmos and I would like to ask you if squale still uses swedish steel for their watches also id like to ask if you maybe could do a video of squales whole current lineup and speak your mind about it? A proposito, sto ancora imparando l'italiano e sta andando alla grande. Non vedo l'ora di visitare Firenze nei prossimi anni e, come sempre, avanti e verso l'alto! Un caro saluto dalla Svezia.
I've just impulse bought a dirt-cheap Casio, because I was eyeing it for a while now and I just saw it discounted. Is a song cheaper than dirt, or should I use a different term?
Would love if you could do a video on frederique constant - like the quartz tank style watch you’re wearing today, it would be great if you could highlight some standouts of their lineup and why they should have everyone’s consideration. I must admit I’m royally confused about their lineup but I do think many of their watches are quite handsome.
Completely agree with both your options and morality TGV. A code of decency and self-respect over fake image and poor understanding of what a watch can be. Buy F-91W it has far more credibility than any designer, fake or smart watch!
Great video and always stand up for what you believe. I'm not so sure that the smart watch is a threat to the mechanical watch, but possibly the entry level. After all , us that buy or wear a mechanical watch, are wearing something that's been pretty much obsolete since the end of 1969.
I thought the intro sounded a little too familiar, so seeing Tai Lopez on my screen again after all these years gave me severe mental whiplash! 🤣 Well made vid, as always 👍
FYI : The "smart" in "smart watch" (and all "smart-tech" actually) is actually an anagram. It's been that way since the beginning. Stands for "Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology". Personally, I refer to that stuff as "ratt-tech". . . "Recording and tattletaling technology".
Hey buddy ! Thank you for your content what is a safe travel case for a watch. I bought this leather q watch travel case on Amazon noticed my bluesy it was scratched on the clasp. The case is all leather:(
A very informative and entertaining video as always the Hugo bits are so dam funny lol. I agree never get into watches for investment because 9 times out of 10 you well lose your shirt over it I look at it the same way people buy trading cards and comics sure you can make big bucks more often then not it isn't worth the hassle trust me I have bought many trading cards and sold and it always comes down to demand and time. I had cards in my collection worth next to nothing and the next year jump up to be worth 5 figures and I had cards worth 5 figures drop to 1/4 the value just like that same goes for comics Iearned hard lessons so I went from Trading card investments to just buying what I liked same with comics life became a hell of a lot stressful and a whole lot happier. I love that you never compromise your morals
TGV, I respect and admire your unrelenting desire for believing in your morals and ethics, and actually following through with them. The last take on smart watches and their disposable, transient existence truly resonated with me. I would be absolutely delighted if you made a video essay about this topic in more depth. In these times of compromised and corrupted journalism, I feel that we need it now more than ever. Regards from Canada. 🇨🇦
Hey TGV, was it Christopher Ward the watch you were talking about? 😂 It seems like every mainstream TH-camr is just throwing them in my face saying buy this watch. It has actually turned me of the brand completely.
Thanks. Seems, that TUG ist one of the few reliable (honest) channels here. Attitude and inegrity is priceless. It‘s like style. Never a matter of money. You have it or you don‘t. Please, don‘t let yourself corrupt in future. The path to dark side is very, very short
I just saw a young lad (mid 20’s) sell a 5k watch for £1500… had it 6 months but needed the money. Horrible watch and a lesson not to spend what you can’t afford!
If it comes to financing trinkets and toys like watches i like to do that on a basis of some simple rules. It's done with money i can throw away without missing it, and if i can't buy 2 or 3 without worry, it's too expensive. Also a reason why i have just as much fun with a Seiko Tuna or a Citizen NY0040 as someone else might have with a Submariner.
In this day and age of all the watch journalism bullshit and snobisme, the Urban Gentry with TGV is like a save haven. An island in the middle of gigantic storm, if you will. I've been watching this channel for almost 10 years now, and the content still is just as good as it was all these years ago. Keep up the great work 👍
Thanks for a brilliant tube. It's "cutting edge" style. i really like the F77 but the fact that the bracelet cant be replaced with something else like a NATO makes it a no-go for me. Why? did they make it like that?
Thank you for putting into such eloquent words what was in my gut that had me throw away my $400 smartwatch a year ago and get back into real watches. 1984 ad should be used as the biggest example of irony in school. Jumping back into Casio brought me to your channel a few months ago. Enjoyed this video very much.
Hey TGV, it would be super cool if you compiled a list of industry peers that you find legitimate and unbiased sources. (Other than yourself, of course).
Great video, Hugo! I have to say I have a Samsung smart watch that is close to ten years old and it still works fine for my needs without new software updates. I imagine it's probably not even supported anymore. I don't know about Apple watches but for the sake of clarity, I would say smart watches are not all made with built-in obsolescence.
Great video and agree with all points except for the getting in debt point. You can take advantage of the market even if you have the cash to buy your favourite watch. In the UK, there are many dealers offering 0% finance with no early repayment fees. Money is expensive and taking into account current savings rate, I’d rather finance a watch this way than taking funds out of my savings and losing the credit interest. Quite nuanced I know but taking advantage of the market should always be explored. Especially if you can get a discount AND 0% finance then it’s a good way to get that watch you want.
“You EARN the right to be called a gentleman” never a truer word spoken 👏
My wife was never into watches, i bought her a apple watch she asked for, she now wears a Omega De Ville Prestige. Another win for traditional watches
If you buy a watch as an “investment”, you’re just buying a watch for someone else.
Great comment and point, genius even.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
Brilliant
So true, well put.
Much like buying property, it’s not an investment instrument. If you’re not gonna wear/live in it, leave it alone and let someone else enjoy it.
I don't agree with the property analogy at all@@GetGwapThisYear
Where's the link to Hugo's course? I want to flip watches in 2024!
I love how TGV stands on his ground and stays sharp. We need more truth tellers than story tellers in this world right now.
Nah, we need more Time Tellers 😉
Brooklyn trust fund buster transplant screams Christian from Theo & Harris 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Though I know throwing shots is not you Tristano
Haha just funny
@@Bob_Smith19 haha true!
So true
@@Bob_Smith19 is this sarcasm??
I feel like his content nowadays os just literally reading off specs in like a 6 minute video.
Recently sold my entire "collection" and bought my grail, an IWC Ingenieur 40. Had to add a Casio W86 for beater duty and never been happier. Good health TGV.
Love the ingenier, it's my current favourite watch, hopefully one day
Let’s face it. Hugo has always been wealthy and never has been “reasonably rich” 😂
🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏
Was it just me, or there were several shots directed to Teddy Baldessar? lol
He probably was but he isn't man enough to name names and be direct. And he has the gall to call himself a "gentleman" haha
@@ggez5890exactly this. I’m tired of this self delusion and this besserwisser mentality of this channel
I see nothing wrong with what Teddy is doing, he shoots the best footage of watches I'm interested in and also sell watches as an AD. It is refreshing to be able to watch a video about a watch without listening to some rambling about being a gentlemen or trivia I'm not interested in.
Tgv has become Teddy's Archieluxury 😂
I can't see anyone watching Teddy's channel and not see he's paid by certain brands. He goes all in on some obscure brand for a while and it stops all of a sudden , never to be mentioned again. That is a paid marketing campain. Period. I cannot respect that when it is not made VERY clear by the channel.
Hi TGV, good advice and as an OG, I can confirm this has been your stance for nearly a decade now. It has helped guide me these past years and firmly believe it's best to save for the watch you truly want. Cheers! John
I do not have an issue with Aliexpress watches if you understand what you are getting. A few are really well made. Particularly if you want try out something cheap before buying the really expensive watch.
I agree, especially if the movements are good enough like Seikos, miyotas, Epson, even Seagulls. Servicing ? Forget that, they are so cheap one can buy another one or a new model if they ever fail. If one loves it so much, then just throw away the movement and replace it with a new one (no need to think of expensive servicing fees here, no hidden "tax" :)). So while earning to buy that grail watch, at least one is able to wear a nice watch or watches in the meantime. One needn't have to live so austerely while saving up to buy that grail watch. Furthermore, sometimes a homage of a grail can convince you that you really don't like the grail watch after all. On the other hand, if you like the homage so much after all, then it can motivate you more to save up for the real one.
Yes - I actually did this. I wanted a Tudor FXD Chrono but needed to know if I'd enjoy wearing one without spending trukloads to find that maybe I didn't. So I purchased a Strategic Rabbit (Tactical Frog) FXD off Aliexpress and found that I did in fact enjoy the look, which led to me purchasing a Fudor FXD Chrono a few months later. I still do wear the Strategic Rabbit sometimes - eg as a beater...
I love buying vintage inspired watches on AE. You get the vintage look but built with updated materials with a reliable Japanese movement. I have vintage watches but worn on special occasions and can’t be worn on a daily basis. My issue with UG is that some of the views are hypocritical especially towards some brands which homage no longer made watches. I came across the Island x Urban Gentry ISL-226 RangeMaster .. what a mashup of well known watches. The name a cross between Tudor and Omega , the numerals Rolex Explorer, the hands Tudor Ranger, the 24hr dial Hamilton. Does this fit into one of the categories or should there be an new category for this type of watch ?
@@wingi7722 The channel WATCHing James also has another reason for a homage. He likes a certain Panerai design, but it is a watch he will not pay for or save for, but he likes the design. It's like I like a field watch, but not enough to buy an IWC even if I can, or even a $1k Hamilton. A homage will do ...
In addition, the NH35 homages are usually simply just awesome bang for buck. I like the design of Yacht Master but most likely will never own one for obvious reasons. Let alone use one in situation where it might get banged or dropped. Or travelling, I don't like the idea of taking even remotely expensive watch with me on a holiday trip abroad. A homage will do just fine.
Those are some of the most compelling points I've heard in a while. Good on you...
I always get the impression that you don't wear a smartwatch, the smartwatch wears you. It's less of a timepiece and more just another channel for "engagement," a way to gather more datapoints and tether you ever more to the increasingly "always online" world. I've never seen anyone just staring at their smartwatch because they're admiring the aesthetics, the elegance, the artistry. Great video as always! Cheers.
Hi TGV, did you finally buy the vintage sub featured in the last video?
Nice one! That maintenance string that comes attached with watches is never enough advertised by the Internet bunch for the people to actually get it, especially in the case of mechanical watches.
At the same time, sending a Seiko to the AD every three years for a complete overhaul is nonsensical - and if it isn't, buying a mechanical Seiko in the first place is.
@@vaclav_fejt Three years may be nonsensical for a watch sitting in the box most of those years. Wearing it every day in other than office jobs may result in some issues, especially for a low tier Seiko.
Just watched the old Persol sunglasses review. Classic, truly classic and mildly humorous. There are some gems in the archives.
TGV, you are perhaps the best of the very few watch channels left that are still worth watching!
The dress watch comment is spot on, why pay huge amounts for a rarely worn watch. Spend the most on the watch you wear regularly. Big fan of the ETA 2892 / Sellita 300 , a quality movement at a reasonable price. It was good ed for Omega and IWC for many years.
Preach! Preach! Excellent! Already made my comment before I watched. Now I watched the video, and I was completely in agreement. You nailed it! Stay free. Onward and upward, TGV!
I think smart watches serve a purpose especially if you’re trying to improve your fitness. The Garmin Instinct Crossover has analog hands and traditional lume, looks like a G-Shock😊
I use the Fitbit 'smart watch' for running then switch over to automatics for daily wear.
I also have the crossover, only wear it when working out or when I have a specific reason to (like paying something without being able to bring a wallet). For me it's 100% a tool I use when needed. I wear (atm) a Seamaster for daily use. Both suit me fine when needed.
Good video! I never consider Apple watch an watch. It`s more of a convenience screen for the phone. Main threat to watches would be peoples constant interest to needlessly monitor their vitals -- steps, heart rate etc. Smartrings like Oura would free peoples wrists. Lately I`ve been looking for good Eagle 7 and I have to say their market is infested with franken watches. So if anyone can guide me to a site or a video with examples of original Eagle 7`s and how to spot the franken watches better that would be nice.
Well said TGV 👏👏 It's so refreshing to hear you cut through all the background noise and crud in the watch internet world and tell it how it really us. Good stuff 👏👏👏
Idk, he basically took half the video to throw pot-shots at people like Teddy Baldassarre and Nico Leonard. He should just man up and name names
The most of the time I wear a Garmin Tactix 7 but I’ll always go back to old school favourites from my Swiss collection, variety is the spice of life.
I have to say you, you have the most aesthetic studio on TH-cam! I also love how you lay out your watches and design your table layouts.
Dear TGV, again, a second to none production! The content is spot on in this times we are living, indeed you are a beacon to the comunity of watch lovers and for that my total respect. Your courage, passion and most importante you independence is, at least for me, an eye opening and constant learning on the journey of watch colection and to really appreciate the hobby in a positive manner! Thank You!
From Portugal with respect!
Great List, i do agree with pretty much everything, i honestly feel more comfortable buying pieces i can keep in the long run at a lower cost and nice jab at the get rich quick online courses that are everywhere now a days, there is only one way to make money and it's working for real, onwards and upwards!
👏👏👏👏 O&U.
Thank you my friend. LOVE IT.
Best regards,
TGV
I enjoyed the thoughtful insights. It would be remiss of me not to add that I'm finding your John Waters' mustache to be simply marvelous darling.
Keep up the good works.
It all comes down to need vs want. I need 3 watches, which I have and enjoy. I want several more ( ridiculously expensive and I’m not selling property to satisfy that want ) but that isn’t happening. Appreciate your take on all of thIs TGV ! 🍻
Great content TGV, I agree on all points. The 2 stop watches on your desk are gorgeous (Hanhart, correct?). Ciao
How difficult is it to service Hanhart watches? Mainly the HD12 and 417 ES. The ES has been a grail of mine for about 3 years and want to pull the trigger on my 40th B day in Jan.
Great question. You can actually see the people and place that will service it, along with the very stringent process on my factory tour video, here it is if you missed it:
th-cam.com/video/9cGHqAPMliE/w-d-xo.html
I think a 417 as a birthday and grail watch is as pure class as it gets. Congrats in advance!
Please let me know how it goes, I would've to hear about it.
Thank you my friend,
Best regards,
TGV
Did you just call out worn and wound?! Ouch. Thought they were your guys! Great video as always man!
Thank you, very much appreciated! Onwards and upwards.
Best regards,
TGV
Thanks TGV to remind these good rules. Especially useful as I'm thinking about an Explorer sometimes next year and am pondering the pros and cons between one from Chrono24, or the cumbersomeness of putting myself in the wishlist of the AD close to me. They told me more or less one year to wait... What would you recommend me to do? A lot of Chrono24 resellers are official horologists or jewellers that have real places where one can go and see the watch in the metal... I'm hesitating, any advices welcome, in the context of Europe market, not US, if any difference it makes...
I got conned by one of those "hype/limited ed" TH-cam channels a few months ago. I even reviewed it myself when I bought it, and I loved it - for a while. Now it's running about 4 minutes fast. Their website is going down every few days, and no one is responding to emails at their company. I even tried leaving a comment in the original video, but it was ignored. Some might say I should sell it on and pass the problem to the next guy, but I can't do that. The money is gone, but I will keep that watch as a reminder to never be taken like that again.
Edit: I'm going to make a video about this watch and what happened with them this week. Now I'm mad I fell for it. I'm not in this for the approval of luxury brands (or any brand). I started watching you because (a) we're both English and Italian, and (b) you are genuine in your views and reviews. I started making videos because I have some experience with journalism from console magazines in the 90s, and I thought I could use it in a different form. However, I'm starting to see the other side of this industry, and even though I lost money, I want to protect others from losing theirs.
Pure class. Video is top quality as always, a work of art by itself. John
I owned the Huawei watch, first gen, and it was probably the best looking smartwatch ever made. However, my brother got a job assembling quartz movements in the Shinola watch factory in Detroit MI. He gave me his free watch he received when they hired him since he doesnt care about watches and now thats what i wear. Love it! I could not afford a watch that 1k so im happy.
That Hua Wei watch is still listening to ever move you make. Better dispose of it. Stat. With a hammer. Oj Simpson style
I also had one. It was a lovely looking smart watch. I wore it for a few years but just got sick of constant notifications.
@@odawgbrazy14so does every other piece of smart tech.
Who's the watch hype shills you mention and how can we spot them? If theyre also a seller?
Great video and really good valid points. I have family members that have bought from several Grey Market Dealers. The one that they like is Swisswatch Expo, Moyer’s and Fox and Bailey in downtown Raleigh. They did name a couple in the DC area as well. These are folks that own Patek’s from 70s and 80s era and a few Rolex models. In any case you are correct on all your points.
Hi TGV,
Do you think you have ever gave some Ali brands a fair chance? Would love to see more ali content from you.
Cheers and take care,
Great point. Unfortunately I have had a lot of experience with them, with mixed results. The watches themselves are fine, but it's not always just about the watches. I made do a video about it one day. But with so many better options out there, I just have not had time.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
A 25 minute video so packed with wisdom and insight that I'll have watch it again later on. Thanks TGV.
Still my favorite watch channel. Thanks for so many years of good reviews and advice my friend.
Great video as usual TGV. Thanks for always adding some perspective to the hobby. Also, what size is Hugo's wrist?
I've been enjoying your content very much today. This one was very thought provoking and entertaining. What a great idea.
my baltany dirty dozen arrived today. very nice. san martin gmt (V6) arrives next week
Aliexpress watches? For shame.
These get a pass
I have a Baltany 1921 and a San Martin sn0116, fantastic watches to wear and beautifully made 👍
@@AnyoxB.D.Now, now, judging others, just makes you sound insecufe.
Good stuff. I heard that the Baltany VC homage looks even better than the original. Of course not the movement, but at least no servicing needed ...
Another enlightening and grounded video, TGV. Whilst I can understand your hesitancy with gray market, when it comes to the Sub, I have much more interest in the pre-ceramic, so gray/person-to-person are pretty much the extent of my options. And even if it can sometimes be overblown, I really have no interest in the AD game.
(double edit: Are you back in NYC? It's been donkeys since I've been around the watch world (I gotta do it when my finances are limited) so the last time I was in the neighborhood, you were in Philly?)
Welcome back!
Enjoy catching up, thank you.
Best regards,
TGV
I use Clockology on my Apple Watch and have a ton of faces on it to spice it up (Rolex, AP, Omega, Longines, Richard Mille, etc.) I also plan on getting more watch bands and straps to spice up the creativity. But I understand your point with Apple Watches. I just wouldn’t have it at the top spot
Great video content. Very informative and professional. Well Done.
Superb vid TGV. You and Sir Mountbatten outdid yourselves on this bust em in their phony corporate chops vid. Brilliant! The OS in my 1969 Heuer apparently needs an update….some bug or some such. Can’t wait for the redux! Thanks
The morphine shopping hauls were the best! Especially when you'd forgotten you'd even ordered a certain item...! Glad to hear that the health is great and those hauls are no longer necessary! Great vid, TGV
Always love a good Hugo intro. And once again, I would like to see the B roll of TGV recording as Hugo.
No.5 - thank you for this!No truer for 2024 can be said than for Studio Underdog. Original / quirky designs apart, is anyone else bored to the back teeth of seeing them absolutely everywhere?
Spot on! Smart watches are soulless shells. Papa Hayek got it right years ago:
" A mechanical watch has a heartbeat - true soul" You feel it every time you wear it.
Great content as usual TGV. There are a few other creators out there but if I see another "top 10 Ali Express" videos in my feed I'm going to stick spring bar tools in my eyes
My god I forgot all about that fella with his Lamborghini and books. The amount of ads I used to get for this was insane.
That's a really nice Lambo, Hugo ;).
TGV, you're the real deal. Each video I watch I gain more and more deserved respect for you. Every word you said in this video is 100% true.
Thanks, dear TGV, for being so well rooted in the real world.
Fair comments TGV. Yes too many replicants out there. You're definitely a refined human. A gentleman.
Great. Happy evening me love a new TGV release. Sat here with my new ML pontos S diver too. Fully agree about the ETA / Sellita thing. Both are rock solid and all the movement most of us ever really need.
This vid is filled gems. You put in some valuable work on this content. Lead the charge my friend and keep putting out these bangers!
Was on the “List” for about 2 yrs for a GMT. Got a call recently asking if there were any other models I was interested in. Told the AD no, as I already have two other models that I wanted. Basically was told that won’t be getting a GMT any time soon. Grabbed a neo-vintage ‘06 Coke w/ SEL’s & couldn’t be happier. I could wear it every day, as it is now the most comfortable piece I own.
Great video! I totally get the criticism of smart watches but they may evolve. I am torn with my grail watch desires. I really admire the Dornbluth & Son watches and could probably swing one but I worry about servicing it. Also in house I am looking at a Nomos Glashutte or my favorite non inhouse is a Cuervo y Sobrinos Historiador Hemingway. Totally agree on the fake watches. Its tempting but are you really going flat out lie to people when they ask you where you got it? Eventually someone who has gone through the purchase experience is going to know you its not real.
I’ve been thinking about that Hanhart Preventor ever since you released that episode. I’m just a normal middle class American and my favorite watch in my collection is the Hamilton Khaki Auto. After seeing the Hanhart you helped design, I’ve decided to sell 4 of my watches I hardly ever wear and pick it up! Keep up the great work brother!
Wow, that is a real power move. Putting aside my involvement, it's ballsy, and for a brand like that, pure class. Now adding myself back into the picture, this made my day. I am deeply honored by the gesture and choice. It shows character, good taste and the strength to act on your convictions. That is getting rare these days. I hope it brings you a life time of faithful service and adventures.
Thank you so much, onwards and ever upwards.
Best regards,
TGV
@@theurbangentry you definitely are a man of great taste and very ethical. You’ve made my day as well ❤️ thank you for introducing me to Hanhart. I’ve been into watches for 5-6 years now and that video was my first exposure to the brand. Very underrated from what it seems!
Top notch stuff as always. How I wish that this was mandatory viewing for any budding watch collector! A younger me especially.
Spot on about modern in-house movements. So pointless as they're technically no better than the ETA/Sellita/Seiko/Miyota options in their top grades.
For vintage it's a different matter - I will tolerate them if the watch is exceptional. Like my 60s Hamilton with the OG micro-rotor movement invented by Buren.
Onwards and upwards!
I think you're spot on.. you are staying true to your strong opinion. And I agree with you... my daily is a 2561.80 seamaster 36mm from 1993....tritium... on the steel bracelet . Total 90s Bond beauty. And I don't miss the fact that it can't tell me how many steps I've done....
13:00 someone isn’t a Teddy fan 😂
I'll never understand the hate for Teddy B.
Ciao Tristano, ma lo Squale viola con il tuo simbolo che è all’inizio dei tuoi video è un fotomontaggio oppure esiste davvero? , è veramente bello 😍
I have name brands with a history (Casio, Citizen, Seiko, Timex, etc), but I know I will never spend that kind of money on a Rolex Submariner (nor will I play their games), so I’m good with my Steeldive SD1953. Great video, as always. Never any offense taken. Cheers.
The watch world needed to hear these points. Powerful stuff TGV!
Its true about "earning" a watch. I recently received an inheritance from an aunt and I finally bought a Swiss automatic. Nothing crazy, just a Tissot.
It doesn't give me the same level of satisfaction as some of the cheaper Orients, seikos and Casios that I own.
Instant gratification is rarely a good thing,.
I think the tide is turning with AE watches. Some are just cheap poor quality design copies but many are really good watches that truly are homages and also original designs. But anyone that places more value on heritage/history wont ever really like them but same goes for microbrands. I think they all have their place and if you know what you want then its fine. I respect you for standing up for your perspectives. Everyone has their own watch journey and we should all standby our own journey. Great video as usual! Thanks.
2:34 Almost hoped you would agree on 'some watches' to justify my savings for the Bel Canto. That beauty is 3 times my monthly 😂
Hi TGV
I just bought my first ever Squale 2002 100 atmos and I would like to ask you if squale still uses swedish steel for their watches also id like to ask if you maybe could do a video of squales whole current lineup and speak your mind about it?
A proposito, sto ancora imparando l'italiano e sta andando alla grande. Non vedo l'ora di visitare Firenze nei prossimi anni e, come sempre, avanti e verso l'alto! Un caro saluto dalla Svezia.
I've just impulse bought a dirt-cheap Casio, because I was eyeing it for a while now and I just saw it discounted. Is a song cheaper than dirt, or should I use a different term?
Thank you Hugo!
You are my inspiration 👏
Would love if you could do a video on frederique constant - like the quartz tank style watch you’re wearing today, it would be great if you could highlight some standouts of their lineup and why they should have everyone’s consideration. I must admit I’m royally confused about their lineup but I do think many of their watches are quite handsome.
Completely agree with both your options and morality TGV. A code of decency and self-respect over fake image and poor understanding of what a watch can be. Buy F-91W it has far more credibility than any designer, fake or smart watch!
Great video and always stand up for what you believe. I'm not so sure that the smart watch is a threat to the mechanical watch, but possibly the entry level.
After all , us that buy or wear a mechanical watch, are wearing something that's been pretty much obsolete since the end of 1969.
So is a hemisphere Cuda but they're bring in 2 million for a 4k$ original sticker.
I thought the intro sounded a little too familiar, so seeing Tai Lopez on my screen again after all these years gave me severe mental whiplash! 🤣
Well made vid, as always 👍
FYI : The "smart" in "smart watch" (and all "smart-tech" actually) is actually an anagram. It's been that way since the beginning. Stands for "Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology". Personally, I refer to that stuff as "ratt-tech". . . "Recording and tattletaling technology".
Excellent video Tristano :)
Eagerly awaiting your new watch as I am sure it won't cost more than two months of my current salary :)
Hey buddy ! Thank you for your content what is a safe travel case for a watch. I bought this leather q watch travel case on Amazon noticed my bluesy it was scratched on the clasp. The case is all leather:(
Great video! I agree 100%. You should always practice what you preach! cheers my friend!
A very informative and entertaining video as always the Hugo bits are so dam funny lol. I agree never get into watches for investment because 9 times out of 10 you well lose your shirt over it I look at it the same way people buy trading cards and comics sure you can make big bucks more often then not it isn't worth the hassle trust me I have bought many trading cards and sold and it always comes down to demand and time. I had cards in my collection worth next to nothing and the next year jump up to be worth 5 figures and I had cards worth 5 figures drop to 1/4 the value just like that same goes for comics Iearned hard lessons so I went from Trading card investments to just buying what I liked same with comics life became a hell of a lot stressful and a whole lot happier. I love that you never compromise your morals
TGV, I respect and admire your unrelenting desire for believing in your morals and ethics, and actually following through with them. The last take on smart watches and their disposable, transient existence truly resonated with me.
I would be absolutely delighted if you made a video essay about this topic in more depth. In these times of compromised and corrupted journalism, I feel that we need it now more than ever.
Regards from Canada. 🇨🇦
Hey TGV, was it Christopher Ward the watch you were talking about? 😂 It seems like every mainstream TH-camr is just throwing them in my face saying buy this watch. It has actually turned me of the brand completely.
Thanks. Seems, that TUG ist one of the few reliable (honest) channels here. Attitude and inegrity is priceless. It‘s like style. Never a matter of money. You have it or you don‘t.
Please, don‘t let yourself corrupt in future. The path to dark side is very, very short
Two very good videos in a row... Keep up the good work
I enjoy your psychological and cultural insights immensely, TGV. Still the gold standard of all watch channels IMHO.
These are all right on point, I love that smart polo shirt. Maybe you can do a clothing video. I haven’t seen one of those in a while.
I just saw a young lad (mid 20’s) sell a 5k watch for £1500… had it 6 months but needed the money. Horrible watch and a lesson not to spend what you can’t afford!
If it comes to financing trinkets and toys like watches i like to do that on a basis of some simple rules.
It's done with money i can throw away without missing it, and if i can't buy 2 or 3 without worry, it's too expensive.
Also a reason why i have just as much fun with a Seiko Tuna or a Citizen NY0040 as someone else might have with a Submariner.
In this day and age of all the watch journalism bullshit and snobisme, the Urban Gentry with TGV is like a save haven. An island in the middle of gigantic storm, if you will. I've been watching this channel for almost 10 years now, and the content still is just as good as it was all these years ago. Keep up the great work 👍
“Horological Hemingway.“ I love it. It’s because of these gems that I love your videos!
Thanks for a brilliant tube. It's "cutting edge" style. i really like the F77 but the fact that the bracelet cant be replaced with something else like a NATO makes it a no-go for me. Why? did they make it like that?
Have you removed the link for, Hugo's course?
As always, excellent! Could you please do a review of the frederique constant carree.
Thank you for putting into such eloquent words what was in my gut that had me throw away my $400 smartwatch a year ago and get back into real watches. 1984 ad should be used as the biggest example of irony in school. Jumping back into Casio brought me to your channel a few months ago. Enjoyed this video very much.
Excellent video! Could not agree more. Have a great day sir!
Just only watched the intro & already ❤ loving this video!
Hey TGV, it would be super cool if you compiled a list of industry peers that you find legitimate and unbiased sources. (Other than yourself, of course).
Great video, Hugo! I have to say I have a Samsung smart watch that is close to ten years old and it still works fine for my needs without new software updates. I imagine it's probably not even supported anymore. I don't know about Apple watches but for the sake of clarity, I would say smart watches are not all made with built-in obsolescence.
Great video and agree with all points except for the getting in debt point. You can take advantage of the market even if you have the cash to buy your favourite watch. In the UK, there are many dealers offering 0% finance with no early repayment fees. Money is expensive and taking into account current savings rate, I’d rather finance a watch this way than taking funds out of my savings and losing the credit interest. Quite nuanced I know but taking advantage of the market should always be explored. Especially if you can get a discount AND 0% finance then it’s a good way to get that watch you want.