This Sounds EXPENSIVE... (VW Tiguan Low Oil Pressure?)
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- Uh oh...got called in to look at the 2012 VW Tiguan GDI turbo again.
This time it STALLED OUT on the highway and got towed to the owner's house.
He said the red LOW OIL PRESSURE "genie lamp" may have been flashing... :0
Looks like this time some expensive parts may be required...
Enjoy!
Ivan
One of the main reasons I got away from being an all around auto tech was the customers were all trying to blame me (some not all) for whatever went wrong with their car after I had repaired it.If it got a flat tire, their reply would be, "you were the last one to work on it" so it must have something to do with your pevious repair! Moved onto to diesel hvy equip, semi truck, military vehicles, etc. came out way better finacially off. Just my opinion.
Diesel is the way to go.
Billy Horton. As a ordinary electronic repairer i would fix there problem but if something else failed then they looked at me as it was my duty to repair it, i ended up married to the dam thing for life.
This reminds me of the lesson I learned about working on the vehicles of relatives. I had done the maintenance and repairs of my father in law's two cars for years saving him thousands of dollars.
I had his BMW in for an oil change and everything went routine. Two days later he calls and says; "what did you do to my car?". My reply: "I changed the oil and filter." He says: "Well the check engine light is on and you were the last one to touch it so you must have messed up something." I pulled codes and it was an evap leak. I told him that was unrelated to an oil change. He got irate and told me it was my responsibility to get it fixed because I must have done something wrong. I fixed the vent control valve and then told him that I was done repairing or even touching his vehicles. He was absolutely surprised and could not understand my decision. Our relationship was never the same. He passed away about 6 months ago.
@@jws3925 It's not your fault that he didn't understand that cars or anything can develop faults, "Just waiting to fail"
It sounds like he was mentally going down the pan, he had lost the ability to see logic.
There was a lady in my street that was always sharp and had a good memory.
She slowly started to forget things like leaving the gas switched on without being lit.
Forgetting how to load the washing machine and other small tasks.
She really did go down the pan mentally, such a shame as she was a nice lady.
@@jws3925 Excellent advice for all "relatives, friends, etc".
Ivan here in Brazil we have a lot of VW. What probably happened there on that Tiguan was that the alternator pulley stuck and the belt was fraying. Until it was winding on the crankshaft and damaged the seal and the oil leaked until it ruined the internal components.
Why so many VW in Brazil?
@@DM-hw4cr basically here in Brazil we have four big brands. VW fiat gm and ford. These are the sales leaders.
I'm sure that has happened but in this case the alternator still spins and the oil is splashing near the top of the engine. So maybe something else? Mysterious.
@@georgegonzalez2476 it is a type of pulley with internal bearing, when the motor decelerates it continues to rotate internally. In some cases it locks and the belt is unraveling and one of these lint ends up entering the retainer.
@@Dcs-Brasil I have heard of those "overrunning" clutches on alternators. But I'm still puzzled as to why. The alternator should always be a load, counter to the direction of rotation. Never a source. Unless the engine stops VERY abruptly, then there will be a few Newtons of force. But cars for 100+ years have not had these kind of pulleys, with no problems, so why now? A few ideas: (1) There has always been a hidden problem. (2) It's just a VW thing, they often love to add complication where it's not needed so much. (3) ???
Ivan, I can just feel the love you have for German cars. I had a diesel Passat TDI that was spectacular. But after seeing all the misery that comes after 125k, I decided to take the generous buyback. Took the money and bought a Toyota. No regrets.
You were unlucky. My passat tdi is currently on 206k and she’s sweet as a nut.
@@Mind-your-own-beeswax the original 1.9 PDs are great. After that, not so
I can see why the term "Euro trash" gets thrown around so much. This reminds me of my sisters Chevy Cruze-- probably the most horrific engine ever made. lol
@@Mind-your-own-beeswax Yeah.. but do you rely on your young daughter to check the oil in that thing.. ?? Something tells me you wouldn't
In Europe those new cars are also called a thrash. As for the TDI, the best and legendary one was the 1.9 litre. Man these can do a million km if just maintained properly. The 2.0 tdi was however a disaster. Then there is 1.6 tdi and this one is more reliable, but not as much the 1.9 tdi though. Old good diesels won't come back unfortunatelly :)
blown crank oil seal (used to happen on the old Volvo's back in the day with blocked PCV system)
Easy fix, just have to change a module. The power train module.
Even better fix: Replace the vehicle module entirely.
WARNING: low oil may cause engine knock.
As a Volkswagen/Audi mechanic, I knew immediately when I saw the belt missing.. I was screaming at my phone the whole time watching the video " turn it off turn it off" haha
Those engines are known for throwing the belt and when this happens, it can get wrapped around the front crank pulley, causing the motor to pump the oil out
I ask...WHY??????
I would've thought it would be other way around, though!? You'd think an oil leak causes the oil soaked belt to slip off and get wrapped in the crank pulley! So what caused the belt to jump then? A seized alternator or tensionner pulley? How can you prevent this from happening in the first place?
As a Volkswagen/Audi mechanic, do you have any experience with the 3.6 suddenly having low oil pressure. im at 185k miles 07 Q7 I doubt its the dreaded oil bolt issues as my vin is past the point it was caught and I dont have any noises cluing the bolt has loosened. a pressure test does show it sits at I think 20psi (or whatever PSI is slightly under flipping the oil pressure switch) regardless of RPM it stays there. I did witness it a few times climb past 50psi on random starts to keep engine in good condition as the car sits. it will lube the valves after sitting a week so I know the oil pump is sort of working.
You mean it was caused by a bad belt?
@@mikefoehr235 the belt gets sucked into the crank seal puking the oil. The daughter filled it with oil because it puked it out
"No Parts required?"
"Actually, no parts left"
I'm sure there are plenty of parts in the oil pan! 🤣
All my life (12-7-45) I've allowed myself to feel responsible for anything that happens to anything I ever touched with a wrench. Ivan doesn't seem to have that problem. The old married-to-it after any repairs will make for a miserable career. That mind set will have you out of the business, any business, in short order. The successful ones look the customer right in the eye and say "So what's that got to do with me?"
You just know it is going to be a great video when Ivan giggles. It is also a bad day for the owner to hear that giggle.
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I would have checked the oil pressure sensor itself - it can sometimes die and start to leak oil. If it's close to the belt and the belt is thrown off it could be killed by the belt.
But I don't know enough about that specific engine to see if that's the case.
End conclusion would be - don't put off changing your belt, it's cheap.
So what's the best estimate to the cause of this? I was initially thinking a water pump seized, causing the belt failure and hot engine but there's no mention of this. The belt was shredded and I don't know why.
Where's the oil leak coming from?
Excess noise internally, is that valves, rods, or something else?
I'm disappointed you left us without telling us the diagnosis, beyond it's toast.
AC compressor has no clutch. When it fails internally, it makes that sound, without the oil pressure warning though.
The daughter put in something other than oil or way too much oil. Sounds like the timing chain guides making that noise . Probably broke one and sent it through timing cover, so it’s spitting oil.
Doubtful the customer will spend the money to have that determination made
Engine replacement.
I just got done with replacing an engine after the engine rod knock showed up.
2899.00 is the $ spent so far. Add 1200 in labour.
Additional parts were belts and antifreeze, plugs. Plug boot set. Cleaning solvents. Broken rusted bolts.
A rear cat with no internals showed up.
Mind you this car was purchased from a little old lady. 😄😄.
Now it also needs a PTU for good measures.
New cat 900.00 estimate. Not including labour.
850.00 for PTU not including labour. This project the customer didn't know about the additional issues at all.
Until after I found the bad cat during my initial removal of motor.
Customer declined additional part to be purchased. The cat and the PTU unit.
That's why Ivan did not quote any prices. I for certain the whole engine and trans needs to be dropped for this repair.
Don't jump on Ivan case. The customer is totally at fault for this fiasco.
Customers come to me for a diagnosis. When I hear an engine knock or bad noises. The $$$ amounts start climbing because of neglect. Now they want an estimate. I politely decline estimates. As I've stated to. I don't buy parts.
@@The_Redkween yeah the dipstick had a kind of grayish colour to it didn't look like oil
Hmmm my daughter noticed oil was low and topped it up, having kids myself I just know there is more to that than meets the eye.
Yep, 2-3 separate cars, after I did timing chains, cleaned out intake breather passages,etc. Showed daughter and bf both a half dozen times each how to check the oil and most cars still wound up in salvage yards with messed up engines.
This is the engine with the known problem with the timing chain tensioner failing usually causing terminal damage. Humble mechanic has lots about it on his TH-cam channel.
Did the daughter overfill the engine oil? I recall working part time at a gas station when I was at university. A customer came in the store several times to buy oil, said it was needed for a top up as engine oil low. Eventually went outside to assist, she obviously thought the oil level was meant to appear all the way to the top of the dip stick which resulted in her in overfilling by many several quarts. Luckily she did not crank the engine, the mechanics employed by the garage drained the excess oil and advised her accordingly.
I used to work at a gas station called "Vickers", back when I was in High School.... it was just a gas and oil cigs place. I worked with two other guys, and we used to have contests to see who could sell the most quarts of oil. So, every customer was an ask "Check your oil". One day this guy comes in with a Caddy, the thing had like a 478 CID in it. My turn to serve, so I go out, customer was "Fill 'er Up", I ask, "Check yer Oil?", he says sure... I check it and it's not even registering on the stick. Sir, this says you don't have any oil in your Caddy! I show him, he watches me push to stick all the way in, draw it out and read it. No Oil...
Customer says, put oil in it. I ask, how many quarts you want? He says till its full like it's supposed to be. I put 5 quarts of oil in that car. Customer watched me.... the stick was at the full mark, customer was happy, drove off and I won the contest that day.... only one problem...
When the guy drove off, almost all the oil was on the driveway under the car. He must have had a punctured pan or something. I might have won the contest, but I had to block the driveway and clean all that oil up. I paid the price for winning...
Doubtful. The damage was probably already done (due to belt coming off and getting tangled in everything?) when she noticed the oil problem.
Was she blond ? Maybe my xwife..
She definitely didn’t do any oil adding lol
It would be interesting to know why an oil leak started. It was obviously driven with low oil pressure for a while leading to that horrible rod knock.
This appears to be a failure inside the PCV valve, allowing boost pressure into the crankcase, blowing oil out everywhere including the rear main seal. It makes a mess, horrible sounds, etc.
No oil leak..but oil light keeps coming on..oil is full..think i can make it from utah to vegas..6hr drive ?
My neighbours Golf V with the 1.4TSI snapped alternator belt, and what do you know. It managed to go through the crank seal and it puked a couple quarts of oil out there. Thankfully i looked inside the engine with endoscope, parts of that belt was resting on the timing chain! Thankfully it didn't jump the timing and she got away with oil pan cleaning, new crank seal and a alternator belt. I think that se coulprit on it was the waterpump/supecharger. It was giving some trouble codes also.
Wish you would have shown us where that oil was dripping from. Would like to see more info on this one Ivan. Thx!
Most likely the crank seal got damaged by the belt.
@@ghenkhoash2440 that was my 1st thought...or a hole in the block.
I was a little bit curious myself but life is too short to dick around with a dead VW 😂
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics EXCELLENT response!
@@ghenkhoash2440 Yep. The daughter should have noticed when it threw the belt and pulled over-- but instead, she kept driving it; belt ruins the crank seal, oil dumps out. Then the dad gets in it later and doesn't even pop the hood to check it out. They literally drove it without oil until the battery died-- before they ever checked under the hood. Yikes.. Then again, that oil leak looks more in the center of the block--- so it may have thrown a rod already, and there's a hole in the side of the block.
oil light flashing and still reving engine m=,,,madness
A little disappointed you didn't locate the leak and determine the reason the belt got chewed up. But yeah, it was a foregone conclusion and a waste of time from a business perspective. Hahaha.
Belt fell apart because of all the oil that got on it.
Seems to me that the PCV failed in a particular way that allowed boost pressure into the crankcase. This makes one hell of a mess by blowing oil out of lots of seals including the rear mail seal.
Looks way too familiar. My brother's was leaking oil. It was coming from the hp oil pump and the timing cover. So I rebuilt the pump, replaced the timing cover gasket, tensioner, and cam cover seal since someone had done a poor job of it previously. Seemed to run fine for a couple thousand miles and then it blew up. Not sure what happened but he needed a third engine.
VW typically makes very solid engines... They have lots of problems, but their engines aren't one of them... Sounds like there was some sort of neglect...
I use to be a HUGE vw fan who modded them in the late 90's. They always leaked oil, had issues, and were money pits. Its odd they havent changed there ways or learned a few lessons from there japanese competitors.
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Those German engineers are incredible. They design them to break just outside of the warranty period. Yes, there is a "plan"
This is customer neglect, almost 100%.
VW engines are solid, they always have been. But they also need you to be diligent with maintenance. If the oil needs changing every 8000 miles, that means 8000 miles max. Not 8001. If they say use synthetic and some weird viscosity, use that weird viscosity and synthetic.
People treat them like a Honda or Toyota, where you can piss in the crank and use that for lubrication for 100k miles, but that's not how VWs are. They are built to much tighter tolerances, so not maintaining them right, will cause them to grenade pretty quickly.
The only issues with these engines are needing carbon cleaning because of carbon build up, turbos failing on the early ones, and (electric) water pumps failing on the more recent ones.
90's vw are actually pretty bulletproof except from some rust issues. Take a old vw 2e engine (the 2 liter 8v) super easy to work on and it will last forever.
At least that's my experience. The later tsi models are a different story.
@@Nabeelco you can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig. Toyota is so much better
I don't get why you insisted on keep revving the thing when it's obviously got no oil pressure? 🤔 It was only going to result in a huge mess and a big hole in the block.
Pretty sure that ship sailed way before Ivan ever laid hands on it.
Once that red oil pressure light comes on, the engine is pretty much already a goner. Unless its something simple like the sender is bad. I call it the change engine light.
Why are so many of you people so friggen uptight? Go watch some neutral drop and have some fun kid.
I had a Tiguan come in with 35k miles, intermittent rough idle, and Timing codes.... It LITERALLY stalled/locked up while i was moving it onto the lift for INSPECTION!!!!!
"Honest dad, all I did was check the oil." 😂
leaves out the part about the oil light coming on in turns or when accelerating for the past week.... 😆
something got her to check the oil... unless she's a good car owner and that's typical for her, but it sounds an alarm to me.
much like adding coolant, but neglecting to say you only added some because the temp gauge hit the red!
The lesson learned here is --- Don't rely on your daughter to keep up maintenance on her car. If you're trusting your young daughter to check her own oil, then it's basically your fault it died. lol
@@calholli It didn’t die because of the oil.
HI if this guys kids are anything like mine were an oil light is just a nuance, I'll have dad look at it when I get home. Oh wait I have to go shopping for a new dress...
i think this one is LOTS of parts required !!
I kinda wanted to see the codes and actual oil pressure. It sounded like lifter failure to me possibly due to low oil pressure. Also what kind of oil pump does it have? Removable on the front of the engine? It was acting like it had a hole in the block or a chunk of gasket missing. You could literally see oil splattering up from below the alternator.
Marking its territory got whole new meaning now 😳.
As always great video Ivan 😊👍
I was behind a hotrod VW Beatle early model on my way to work one morning. His engine was stalling out at the intersection close to home, so not fully warmed up. Then he went to go and the crank pully and damper just jumped off the engine and rolled a little while and then into the drainage ditch under water. I'm not sure if the bolt was loose or broke or what. Just so odd to see the two pieces roll into the drink. I'm not sure he even knew what happened, I was late so I had to get moving.
Flashing oil pressure light, why a test drive? Intent is to blow it up? I don’t get it?????
I had a Traverse towed in today that I had done a timing chain job on for a used car dealer about 9 months ago. Customer stated "engine started knocking, just had timing chains done by you". My oil filter was still on it, it was 1/2 qt over full of oil and had 8000 miles more than when I did the chains. Essentially, the customer bought the car for his daughter, she drove it til it blew up, dad put oil in it and blamed me for it running out of oil since I was the last one to work on it. In their defense, it still had 14% "oil life" remaining, even though it had probably been low on oil for thousands of miles. Its funny, if you go by the oil life indicator some GMs will let you go 12k miles between oil changes but GM also says "normal" oil consumption is up to 1qt/1000 miles even brand new. So according to GM it's normal to have to add 12 qts of oil between changes.
Thats a shame. Perfectly good car. I got a VW jetta tdi with 395k orinal miles. Even the same muffler. Listen to your car. She is always talking to you. Love your videos. Cant beat diagnosis method for electrical.
Same muffler for almost 400k is amazing!
its a keeper and a diesel and a totally different car, most newer vw are crap
Yeah but those are from 96 to 2004 , great engines and high mpg
@@cristianojoana1898 same old crap
Mines a AFN has 600k kms does 200kms every day, just put diesel in it and oil changes and wear parts , nothing more...
Clearly it has a serious oil leak and some internal damage due to lack of oil so a look underneath would've been helpful to find the leak.
Belt broke, got in behind crank pulley and took seal out. That’s were all the oil is from. The belt also gets sucked into the crankcase. If you pull the pan you will find the rest of the belt in the oil pump pick up causing the low oil pressure.
I thought only BMWs did that 🤣
I have the same Tiguan with low oil pressure issue. I’ve had it diagnosed by the different shops. The first said the turbo needs replacing but there’s no oil burning oil from the exhaust. The second measured the oil pressure when the engine is hot and found it to be 9-14 Psi which is less than the factory specified of 17-23 Psi. I was told it’s an internal engine problem-either there’s a blockage in the oil circulation or the oil pump needs replacing.
I am thinking my pump at 60k miles 2017 tiguan limited needs to be replaced, I get a light when my oil gets hot.
I really hate to see stuff like this happen to any of my customers. It's not like any of us intentionally set our customers vehicles up to fail or anything like that. A lot of them blindly ignore early warning signs like when there is pools or rivers of fluids on the driveway or parking space. Or cover up warning lights with pictures or tape. And they just keep driving until it leaves them walking.
Alternator belt left because of the oil leaks. I see this a lot also.
Possibly the other way around, belt gets tired and let’s go and stuffs the seal, then oil goes bye bye.
@@michaelslee4336 Possibly. This happens an BMW's. Belt goes out. Gets sucked in behind the crank pulley.
It happens. We call my brother " engine killer". He's ran more than his share of engines out of oil
This OCCURRED POSSIBLY for a few reasons, PCV failed blowing out deals starting with the top timing cover leaking oil onto the belt once the belt was slippery it came off the pulley and the crank shaft ate it.. In eating it the bottom crank shaft pulley seal was damaged and the belt got chewed into the timing system.
Methinks there's a user installed inspection port in the block somewhere. Or some malice in the combustion palace!
As soon as you said someone added oil the question became what exactly did they add?
Hi Ivan, I cringed when I heard the engine knocking. Can definitely hear wrist pin noise. Looks mighty close to the oil filter. Do you think it’s possible someone left the old gasket in place (or didn’t notice it?) Then put the new gasket in causing it to leak around the base of the filter? The leak sure looks close to the filter.
Unlikely to be a wrist pin, they tend to survive forever. Oil starvation typically wipes out the big ends first.
I was the one who installed that oil filter 4k miles ago 😅
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics well I’m sure you paid attention to that. Is there a oil sensor close by that is leaking?
I’ve seen wrist pin bearings go bad. They have a tendency to quiet down when the piston expands from the heat of combustion.
120,000 miles. I'm surprised it went that far.😂 My neighbor's VW died at 83,000.
Good thing it was towed to the customer's house. You won't have to be calling him for the next six months to get it out of your yard while he decides what to do with it.
That's customer neglect, for sure.
Those engines have their problems, but this isn't one of them. If it was a water pump (causing an over-heat), carbon build up causing a miss, or electrical problems, that's VWs fault, but this? This was caused by some sort of neglect. VW engines do not fail like this.
Yes they ignored the oil leak against my recommendation 6 months ago. RIP VW 😢
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Ooofff... 😬
"Daughter topped it off with oil" ....Sorry, but when Ivan said he was told this, I said all bets were off. Yeah, we will never know what really happened to this car. Just walk away Ivan 🤷♂
I would say on this one, that the oil leaks should have been chased down 12 months ago when fuel pump was replaced. You mentioned it was covered in oil then.
It's so toasted you could neutral drop it yourself right in front of the owner's house :D
I has no power to Neutral drop it. Hold the pedal down and watch her blow in about 10 sec's.
I think it’s scanner time. Let’s make sure that the computer isn’t commanding the oil to leave the engine. 😂😂😂
WTF you didn’t even hook up OBD tool to see the faults 😂😂😂😂
Just dump some 20w50 in the oil to quiet it down and a tube of silicone for the leaks (make sure it the shower anti-fungal, because we don't want mold), and it'll be good as new. I think the VW shop manual has this exact procedure.
Dang,,,, I really wanted to know where the oil leak was coming from,,, was it the oil pressure sending unit,,, a whole in the block,, I really wanted to know....
you destroyed the engine, its an obvious crankshaft seal behind the pulley thats for starters and there is a check engine light on you didnt check that. you were revving a screaming engine what the heck. i would charge you for a new engine put in.
No, the owner destroyed the engine due to negligence. I just proved that it was already destroyed 🤣
Looks like the belt failed . Got behind the crank pulley . Ripped the crank seal which has made all the oil leak and now gasses passing past seal and oil
Uh oh, I hate when this happens at our shop. Customer is upset they need major repairs and sometimes try to find a way to avoid paying for it themselves. No oil pressure, metallic noise and likely sparkly oil. Still less expensive to do an engine swap than it is to buy another comparable car.
just curious, where was the leak? And if they drove it with low oil/ low oil pressure, of course that engine was going to be toast.
I think the daughter kept driving with the oil light on and eventually topped it up when they got home which should never do or the highlight is just not good enough on my car it comes on straight away It even tells you in the owner's manual it's okay to be on at very low idol to come on but if you accelerate it should go away
my daughter bought a used Passat right out of hischool, One of the happiest days of my like was when she traded it in on a new Toyota, Parts were hard to get and not cheap and there was always something wrong with it.
I think the muffler bearings went bad causing an exhaust backup which ruined everything else.
Before I watch. My guess.......timing chain. I've done so many of these. One thing too is that the variable timing cam gear has an o-ring on the inside of it. That most people miss. I don't blame them because you really don't see it or notice unless someone points it out. And that o-ring can cause all kinds of problems after the fact. And it will mimick an upper timing cover gasket leak. And the timing procedure for these absolutely suck. But they pat decent. As long as you've got the timing tools it's fine. Just tedious because once timed there's no way to really verify after rotating the crank.
They pay decent?! Yeah, great, mine costs $4000 to repair. VW ended up paying the entire bill.
@@Ram14250 From a technicians perspective they pay decent. Meaning it pays something like 8 hours. But after 2 or 3 you get them done in 3.
I know this is an old video but I know people are still going to see this. This looks and sounds like a classic case of a PCV valve problem with the Tiguans of this generation and other VWs with with the same or similar engines. In a particular failure mode, the crankcase does overpressurize and oil goes EVERYWHERE. That big puddle at the back of the engine? VWs rear main seal is weak and blows out with the result seen.
VW cheaped out and removed the sensor for crankcase pressure so there's no warning except for the sound, the oil going everywhere quickly, etc. VW also cheaped out on the rear main seal. Fortunately, at least two companies, including 034 Motorsports sell a billet rear main seal and they use a more tradional Elring rear main seal.
The engine may well have been ok with the PCV and the rear main seal.
No parts required , an engine is required instead .🤣🤣🤣
when a gasoline engine sounds like a diesel, you know you're in trouble.
Isn't it a diesel engine? It's a VW, and he put 15W40 oil in it. Don't think any gassers take 15W40 oil - if anything, they're using thinner and thinner oil all the time, not thicker oil. Edited: Oh, I went back and watched again - 5W40 oil - that's pretty odd oil. I thought it said 15W40 but I was wrong. I also went and watched the original video - it's definitely gas. Yeah, right off the bat, when you're gas engine sounds like a diesel, the crusher is calling...
Well if it was my vw diesel , and only drive the earlier tdi, i pull the pan and check the rods and mains . See the condition of the crankshaft. . I thought these had a balance shaft assembly on them . All i ever owned is 1.9 ... i never had a engine failure in 30 plus years . I kept them full of oil. Checked the oil level often . I like manual oil pressure gauge because i dont like to walk very far . . A side note , a lot of vehicles with oil pressure gauges are just a switch that satisfy the bare minimum amount of oil pressure and the computer generate you a value based of i assume , rpm, coolant temp ect . Enjoy the videos
As you go through life you meet two types, the ones who ALWAYS have issues with vehicles, and those that don't!!! Maybe it's not always the vehicle, just the idiot owner/driver!!
Wonderful German quality. So complicated nobody can fix it. So glad I got rid of my GTI. Loved the car and they way it drove. Oil changed every 5K. Then the tensioner went out. Bye-Bye! Hello Honda!
first visual inpection: oil all over the engine.
How did that oil get there?
oil got on the belt and belt slung the oil all over the passenger side of the engine bay.
Where did that oil come from? what part of the oil system close to that belt that could have leaked oil on that belt?
the oil FILTER. Somebody at some point did a filter swap and didn't put the filter on properly. Expensive mistake! Sucks for the owner.
Filter was fine. I installed it 6 months ago lol
I haven't worked on that model, and I didn't hear the rod knock over my speakers, but the valve noise indicates low oil pressure in the head. Does that thing have an oil cooler line that might have blown out? I suspect that whatever is dumping the oil is the cause of the low oil pressure and the oil loss. Is there oil in the radiator and is it smoking? This strikes me as an old fashioned mechanical diagnostic... Now if the rods have been knocking for a while... the engine is likely toast.
When you said his daughter filled it with oil I knew the only reason she did was because it ran out. You have to stay on top of your maintenance if you own a German auto. You get your daughter a Toyota they're way more forgiving.
yep, that's what my first thought was.
What caused belt failure? I have same engine in my CC, and belt shredded on me downtown DC during rush hour at 90 degree heat. Never found out why it happened. Pulleys all seem good. Engine does Like to leak oil.
So the belt failure takes out the front seal and/or wears a hole in the front cover and this is what u get. Happens often with BMWs too.
I think timing cover mass leaking need new timing cover gasket or upper timing cover too
Reminds me of that BMW with the VANOS codes. The oil pressure appeared to drop as the engine was revved up (and the light came on), same as the BMW. Did that belt shred while going down the road, destroy the crankshaft oil seal and spew all the oil out? Or did the oil leak contribute to the belt shredding? Either way, it's a goner lol.
Okay ui have a problem with this the low oil light is on and you are revving up the motor and possibly damaging it even more turn the thing off and see ware the oil is leaking
But from what I seen you didn't really perform what I would consider any diagnostics you didn't look to see where the oil leak was coming from in the first place before you start running I wouldn't have even started it up without finding out where the oil leak was coming from first all you did was hook to see how much voltage the alternator is putting out put a belt on it and then you started it ran it and then you rubbed it up which probably did even more damage I have from what my perspective I didn't see any diagnostic.
@@Mikie1959 Did you hear that engine? The only further damage that could be done would be be to waste more time, effort, and money digging into a blown engine. He made a wise business decision.
Yep, it's toast (literally) and sounds horrifying. Massive oil leak means some sort of a hole - something broke the casting somewhere? Not the kind of diagnostic you want to give to customer.
I'd love to know where the oil was coming from just for giggles. Definitely oil starvation which cooked it. 120k and it's curtains 😂
Aw man, I've had a PCV failure on a Duratec. Blew out a bunch of seals and gaskets, dumped oil ALL OVER the engine bay. Lost all 5 quarts of oil within 50 miles of driving, oil light never came on and engine seized.
Never seen such a giant oily mess, it was absolutely everywhere.
Hopefully the engine ends up on "I do cars" for a tear down, though we know what's going to be found - those famous "flexible" connecting rods. Anyone that buys a VW/Audi or BMW should start researching engine replacements as soon as they buy it. 'Cause you're probably going to need one at some point. All these cars are grenades with the pins pulled, plain and simple.
So let us know for sure and why! Thanks Ivan
Honestly....I had to double check whether that was a TSI or TDI. I would say that the car is toast.
Of all the mid-size SUV'S I drove, the Atlas was high on my list. But I couldn't get past my Beetles experience and Consumer Reports reliability rating for VWs. Too many 'unique to VW' issues with these vehicles.
There are a few revisions to the timing chain and tensioners on this car. Ive done a few that tensioners have failed around 120k. As for why its leaking oil i am not sure....
TSI renowned for burning oil due to low friction piston rings. You burn too much without replacing the oil and the chain tensioner loses pressure and jumps the timing. As you say there's a TSB out for a revised tensioner that remains loaded in the event of lack of oil.
I dont know if that model has a oil cooler mount in the some area at engine block with cooling system, like passat, it will sound like diesel couse lack of oil at the cam tensioner
This is not a VW specific fault the vehicle probably had a oil leak from the oil pressure switch or oil filter and the alternator belt was probably old too and the belt came apart and then some of the rubber parts jammed between the crank damper and the rubber parts were ingested by the engine it then clogged the oil pump pick up screen the the engine ran low on oil pressure then game over it would be nice if you could remove the metal part of the oil pan to see if the oil pick up was clogged. 😢
When an engine needs 2 quarts of oil to top up, it should be checked for the cause. Engines don’t lose that much oil for no reason.
It's a TSI, they are known for burning oil. The daughter hasn't checked the oil and it's reached critical level on the freeway. The chain tensioner runs off oil pressure so that's crapped out making the engine jump timing.
It's spraying oil out somewhere and you checking if the alternator is charging ?????
It's a German Harley...If the engine, isn't puking oil, it has most likely run out of oil. I wonder if his daughter put a whole gallon in, like I've seen other women do, next comes the hydraulic lock, and a conrod wants out. Can't really blame the oil and conrods for wanting to get out of a VW🤣
did she put it IN .... or ... ON the engine's moving parts .....?
@@ivanolsen7966 My guess is in, and it spat it out on it's own moving parts🤮
Whats the part number for an entire engine?🎉😂
@@Dirtyharry70585 I'm guessing there isn't a complete engine part number. VW would want to sell you each engine part one at a time..cha-ching$$🤣
@@simonilett998 I’d say junk yard but , that’s why it called junk yard 😅
Front seal failure?
Lmao. When you said "yep, sounds like a diesel", I thought it might be...particularly loud and odd sounding but perfectly plausible. I was just surprised about seeing a 4cyl td one of these in the US...until I saw the rev counter with redline at 6k... "ok, that thing's f'd".
Just for the hell of it, I rented a Passat at an airport. It was that or a Chevy Malibu. I had never had any experience with one, and after the rental I'm glad! I hated that thing, it was not impressive at all. I was happy to get home to my Toyota Highlander and my Volvo XC70.
Yep. Send it down to either of the neutral drop locations in Tijuana or the DR and let Stuntman have at it.
So will this be going to the auction now?........
Awww....come on.... for sure that car had at least another 50 to 100 quarts of oil and 1,000 miles left on it before total engine collapse....
It still had life to give...
Dude... I'm very, very curious what going on with this car? What they doing to make that bad engine sound and oil leaking???
The car lasted 4 months after the last repair (which did not cause this problem). Customer saved 4 car payments, about $2000, probably a wash. Customer shouldn't complain.
Why would you keep it running when it clearly isn't running correctly and is clearly spitting out oil from somewhere???
Thanks Ivan!