Review: Broadway Limited Paragon 4 GP20 w/DCC Sound! BLI's new decoder!

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  • @jwrailve3615
    @jwrailve3615 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have no clue but I never get your videos on my feed anymore I keep waiting weeks thinking you have just been working on your new layout but I’m glad to see multiple reviews backed up for me to watch now!

  • @TonyFleetwood
    @TonyFleetwood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i cant wait to see the layout update/ series!

  • @dieseldemon8562
    @dieseldemon8562 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The start up sequence included opening the test-cocks on the engine, and this was the delay in starting that was heard, although the procedure was very abbreviated for modeling. This procedure was done prior to starting, to purge any water from the cylinders. It wasn’t as critical on turbocharged engines, but Roots blown engines were prone to getting rain water in the engine from the exhaust stacks and manifolds.
    Purging the cylinders would prevent engine damage from a hydro-locked condition.

  • @marcuslee1779
    @marcuslee1779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the review James! I pre-ordered a ATSF GP20 when they were first announced. My unit has not arrived yet, but if it is true that the beacon doesn't operate, I am very disappointed in BLI! With so many manufacturers adding working beacons, ditch lights, MARS lights,, emergency lights and other lighting effects, I don't understand BLIs decision to skip an operating Prime Stratolite Beacon! Bummer.

    • @JF-lt5zc
      @JF-lt5zc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesn't make much sense. I just purchased a used Athearn Genesis SD45 from mid 2000s. The decoder is really garbage (not sure what it is because I can't read it on JRMI). But, it does run on DC and even that has a bulb in the rotating beacon. It will be getting an ESU at some point but at least it came with that feature...

  • @dlae73
    @dlae73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Nice review and locomotive. Broadway Limited should use Soundtraxx or ESU for sound.

  • @epacm50
    @epacm50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At last! We will have train service on your layout. I am ready for your first load.

  • @tvtoms
    @tvtoms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mine came with the rear coupler in three pieces. Also, the rear number boards weren't lighting. The plug at the decoder had been jammed in a bit crooked, bending one of the pins into the other one and marring the opening. I was able to repair both carefully with the tip of an exacto knife.
    I could go on. I'd like to put a loksound or tsunami in it is the bottom line on my decoder review which is a bummer. I'd hoped it was markedly different from the 3 but not really. The pro lighting mode is OK I guess but it suffers from old issues. The manual even says paragon 3 in one place which is ... eh, expected I guess.

  • @robertswickard8355
    @robertswickard8355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Looks great , but it still has Broadway's flaming decoder .
    An ABSOLUTE is putting in THE PROPER TURBO CHARGED TSUNAMI 2 WITH KEEP ALIVE ....

  • @vermontrail-fan5557
    @vermontrail-fan5557 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review James, glad to here the layout construction is going great. BLI has definitely made a huge step up with Paragon 4.
    The GP20’s are very nice, I think Vermont Railway has one which I believe is 802 with three color class lights on the roof, maybe in the future they may consider that one.

  • @luvindemtrains
    @luvindemtrains 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review of my favorite diesel! Anxiously waiting to see the layout build.

  • @timjohnson8479
    @timjohnson8479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    James are you documenting your layout build? Will we see a step by step, to give everyone tips/

  • @kcgrailgilbert8466
    @kcgrailgilbert8466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job on the review on locomotives 👍👍👍

  • @BN1510
    @BN1510 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, James. I think I'll wait for Athearn to release a BN green GP20 of CB&Q heritage.

  • @jacobpfeifertrains1998
    @jacobpfeifertrains1998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Quality control issue: santa fe's horn is bent.

  • @milwaukeewesternrailway1247
    @milwaukeewesternrailway1247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A club member received three of these and they have the wrong sound file.

  • @Fiddleman200616
    @Fiddleman200616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They could've done better with the sound. GP20's are turbocharged units and this model is a non-turbo engine sound. I thought about getting one, but not now. Their sounds are just terrible.

  • @SouthernPacificPatch
    @SouthernPacificPatch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lol, non turbo sound file in a GP20. Classic BLI.

    • @multicolorfilms
      @multicolorfilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For how expensive their products are, there sometimes skimp ya!

    • @upmodeler73
      @upmodeler73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds horrible.

    • @SouthernPacificPatch
      @SouthernPacificPatch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@upmodeler73 What Paragon decoder doesn’t sound horrible? Still amazes me people pay a premium price for this junk.

    • @multicolorfilms
      @multicolorfilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@upmodeler73 It really does XD

  • @JoeyBPhotography
    @JoeyBPhotography 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review, the detail looks pretty good with your video quality. I still can't get over the prototype's cyclops-like windshield, though, something about it feels creepy to me lol. Thanks for sharing!

    • @mgr_video_productions
      @mgr_video_productions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it was like that for Santa Fe GP20s as-built. They later got the two piece windshield when they got rebuilt later on into GP20us.

    • @zurekc
      @zurekc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mgr_video_productions But BLI modeled a GP20 rebuild.

  • @mikesosalla5853
    @mikesosalla5853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WRONG sound decoder! This is NOT a turbo charged sound file. What you're listening too is a GP-9 not a GP20. What a colossal blunder!

  • @wmjm74
    @wmjm74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That cab light! Yikes!

  • @leonardkocick7491
    @leonardkocick7491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding as always thank you.

  • @daniellucas6573
    @daniellucas6573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Engine has potential, could be better (if they can dim that cab light a bit, needs truck lights, sound is a bit meh!) But all and all, it's a decent switching locomotive. Good for like mid-western railroad operations.

    • @JF-lt5zc
      @JF-lt5zc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cab light is a non-starter for me. Model looks really good but I'd program that functionality out on day one. How does it behave if it is in consist? Would look pretty awful if it was on half way through the lashup!

  • @thomasavensjr.2790
    @thomasavensjr.2790 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These paragon4 series gp20 models are impressive locomotives, hopefully BLI has eliminated the performance issues with their paragon3 decoders & have improved the functions with the new paragon4 decoders.

  • @pacoperezabella
    @pacoperezabella 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My proto 2000 its beautiful but this BLI its spectacular!.

  • @roberttrains8696
    @roberttrains8696 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great reviews James enjoy both trains look forward to seeing more reviews
    Robert Guzman

  • @mgr_video_productions
    @mgr_video_productions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The bell and prime mover sounds awful. The Leslie RS3L horn is correct and doesn't sound to bad.

  • @JosueRodriguez-kk6wn
    @JosueRodriguez-kk6wn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I might just freelance the San Joaquin Valley Railroad with two of these.

  • @tropicalrailroadproduction5028
    @tropicalrailroadproduction5028 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is Awesome. I hope Rail Mouse Video Productions Get another GP20 from Union Pacific

  • @starbob4870
    @starbob4870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review ' But I will never buy a BLI again. Looks great but to many problems running, I have own 3 and all are junk. Buyer beware. To many other better brands.

  • @Brianrockrailfan
    @Brianrockrailfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video

  • @Superseanbarry
    @Superseanbarry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job. But, Bro you gotta have Rolling Thunder hooked up for BLI reviews!

  • @jimwolsiffer4397
    @jimwolsiffer4397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't found where anyone has found that the Beacon in fact operates. I am surprised they left this out, one reason I added this model to my railroad.

  • @michaelhirvela1862
    @michaelhirvela1862 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    18:35; Six axle locomotive? - JLW? Also, I have heard the unit is missing the Turbo-charger sound, which may be a deal breaker for some folks.

    • @jlwii2000
      @jlwii2000  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      meant 4, sorry.

  • @martinanschutz7410
    @martinanschutz7410 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, you using PIKO Track, cool. Do you have ever test the draw bar pull on USA and Europe Track? I believe there are a difference.

  • @NE-Explorer
    @NE-Explorer ปีที่แล้ว

    What is that rotary pedestal?

  • @alexander1485
    @alexander1485 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive actually seen a santa fe gp20 like 6 or 7 years ago

  • @emprrailroad9340
    @emprrailroad9340 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you with all the engines after you review them?

  • @leonardkocick7491
    @leonardkocick7491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let see the lay out some time

  • @diliplandage5817
    @diliplandage5817 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where's bye in india

  • @paulhebert3615
    @paulhebert3615 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Must have got the cab light from Tyco.

  • @paulhebert3615
    @paulhebert3615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BLI sure has a hard time getting sound correct.

  • @thebfsniper1869
    @thebfsniper1869 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've tried BLI diesels and couldn't stand them (spoiled by ESU decoders) only deal with paragon decoders for their steam locomotives. BLI could atleast have a dcc ready version of their locos since doing a gutting conversion is a pita. Mainly because they don't even attempt to follow NMRA color coding just white and black wires going everywhere.

    • @gundathroneps448
      @gundathroneps448 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They wont do a dcc ready version because it would require them to redesign the entire interior of there locomotives. Would cost them too much to do. They have stated this many of times but appearantly you all dont listen

  • @Trainmaster909
    @Trainmaster909 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a huge fan of the Paragon4 sound system. Only a marginal improvement over Paragon3. Looks like I will be spending another 5 years swapping for ESU decoders.

  • @markhayes6407
    @markhayes6407 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review but the locomotive has poor functions and sound is scratchy. The beacon not working so why did they install it on the unit. BLI hasn't changed anything for the good on the Paragon 4 units except that capacitor change. I got burned on the paragon 3's...No thanks BLI

  • @zurekc
    @zurekc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It still sounds like a typical BLI...yuck. The first thing I would do is yank out decoder and put something in that sounds more realistic. Plus on the Santa Fe model I would make the beacon work.

  • @magnuswettermark8293
    @magnuswettermark8293 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Prefer the old tyco/mantua GP 20's..

  • @calebg844
    @calebg844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Decoders still crap, but the details seem much better than past diesels they’ve ran

  • @weatheringwithaj1431
    @weatheringwithaj1431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    second

  • @stevenanderson1500
    @stevenanderson1500 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice model but has the wrong horn!

  • @bradyshobbies99
    @bradyshobbies99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    BLI can add all the bells and whistles they want to this new decoder (figuratively speaking), but the sound quality is still garbage! The least they can do is upgrade their speakers so it doesn't sound like a fuzzy mess

  • @cats5834
    @cats5834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First!

  • @BHill-rz9tg
    @BHill-rz9tg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm kind of meh on these engines.

  • @marblox9300
    @marblox9300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These sound decoders are stupid. Just get a decoder without sound.

  • @BHill-rz9tg
    @BHill-rz9tg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Third lol