16GB Memory on Windows 2000! Compaq Proliant DL580
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16GB Memory on Windows 2000! Compaq Proliant DL580
I spend so much money to max out this server. Can you make sure you share and like this video? I need to make my money back :D I bought 16x 1gb pc100 cl2 ecc sdram. So we gonna install it in this video and test out Windows 2000 with 16gb sdram :D Will that even work?
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Thats some elite PC Master race shit, still wondering how it would taste licking that memory riser card.
I had 16GB DDR3 RAM in my last computer that I used from December 2012-March 2022, it chugged along at the end but it was still a serviceable machine. When I built my current machine I went with 64GB DDR4 RAM, trying to build a machine that'll run for just as long, if not longer.
You can try and run multiple instances of SQL Server 2000, maybe IIS?, you can also try to find a contemporary version of Oracle...
If you _really_ dare, you can try and run SAP R/3 on it, but you need a seasoned SAP specialist to try and install it.
Love the OG G1 Proliants, the hardware I cut my teeth on. 16GB was quite a lot back then. we ran an Exchange 2K 2 node active/active cluster, each server with 8GB...
I have a dual PIII machine with 2GB of memory and it already takes a comical amount of time to count this much memory.
16GB is completely insane. I do not even know if it is possible to fill up this much memory on win2k.
At the time of the launch of this server, this amount of memory must have cost almost 100 thousand dollars or more, it would be the equivalent of + 1 TB of ram on current servers, crazy, but those 400 dollars are worth it, it is a beautiful piece of hardware, greetings
Oh the nostalgia! I believe it was 2001 when I built my first complete new PC which started life with 128MB RAM but before that I was running one of those "upgrade motherboards" sold in catalogs with the idea of giving your old system a new life. It was a Cyrix MediaGX SOC running Win98SE, overclocked to 266MHz (so basically a 266MHz 486 CPU) and it had 64MB of RAM IIRC. My first 16GB system was an Alienware M17x R4 laptop... 2013? I've still got it in storage, it was a beast and I ran it right up until EOL for Win7. I have a 32GB laptop in the other room but right now I'm using my Rog Ally handheld, in a dock, connected to a full desktop setup - so I'm still using a 16GB RAM system right now. Man I wish there was a 32GB option for the Ally, mainly because that 16GB is shared, 4GB VRAM and 12GB system RAM. It crashed left-and-right when I tried adjusting that split once, so I leave it alone. Out in the living room are my Retro PC's - A Dual P3 1GHz, a P3 Tualatin 1.4GHz, and an AMD K6-2+ 600MHz - all with 512MB RAM, and a trusty IBM 5170 with 8MB... wrote GB first, lol. And last the 1MB XT-class homebrew system I built last summer.
That memory card does look beautiful fully populated, really enjoying this video series.
I completely forgot that Windows 2000 didn't even have 64 bit versions like Windows XP had at the end. Kinda reminds you of how back in the day, a maximum of 640k memory was enough because IBM said so.
In 2021 I built a Dual Xeon system with 512GB RAM that I used for CHIA crypto plotting. When the MadMax plotter came out I was able to run both CPU's at full load and it needed all the RAM. It was weird having spent so much time messing with it going back to a normal PC, 16GB of RAM didn't seem like anything :-D I managed to get a couple of CHIA, but didn't make any money of course. But it was an interesting project trying to get the most out of a system that was so over powered compared to anything I had used before. Not to mention having to prevent bottlenecks with the amount of data it was creating.
I do remember in the mid to late 90's when RAM prices dropped to about 50p/megabyte. At the time that seemed amazing compared to previous costs. How times have changed!
Great machine! Great video!
In 2000 I had Windows ME, later 2000 Pro with 384 MB RAM. Back then, 16 GB was unimaginably large. At least for home use. By the way, I still have such modules here too. But only 8GB SD-RAM PC100. I also had the DL 380 but it was too big, too heavy and loud so I had to give it away. But I still have a Chieftec tower with socket 604, two Xeons Nocona with HT 3.6 GHz and 16 GB DDR1 RAM that run at 266 MHz. The config is from 2003. But even in 2003 there was still a lot of memory. Luckily I can use WinXP 64 to use the 16 GB. To make sure that everything is suitable for gaming, I installed an R7 250 with an adapter on the PCI X slot.
SCSI is already fun since it sounds funny hehe. Also, I still use it! In a way... Technically just the external connectors, we have (modern) data aquasition hardware from National Instruments that uses VHDCI 68 and HD 68 to connect from PCI and USB cards to (external) terminal blocks.
My first PC (1998~2003) had 32MB RAM, 3GB HDD, 2MB VRAM, 200MHz + MMX. My current PC had 16GB RAM.
I ran 16GB through most of the 2010s. I think I upgraded to 32GB at some point in the latter half of the decade; once I started running VMs, 16GB became limiting. I'm currently running 64GB in my main machine.
What a great machine. Thanks for the video 🙏
ps: back in 2000
I had 128mb ram
I ran 32GB in two of my machines back in 2013. I snatched up a heck of a deal, four kits of 16GB (2x8GB) Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3 ram for $45 US each kit. That was way less that half price. Two kits in a Phenom II machine and two kits in Bulldozer machine.
i never knew could get that much ram for something like that, pretty impressive over all, my first 16gig of ram was in 2014 on a i7 4770, later to 32gig, now currently on 128gigs on a 5700g apu system
on this hardware i would poersonally love to try a modern linux distro that's made for older systems and ships with the pae kernel (using a lightweight desktop and minimum background tasks) and see how it runs on this thing, ideally we should see some pretty decent resulta
In 2000 I had amd 5x86@150 mhz machine with 32 megs of ram.
during this time I was still on a AMD K6-II 550Mhz system I had built in 99 working my first after school job, and I was either running 256Mb or 512Mb RAM, I honestly don't remember, but for most of the 00's I was running 4GB to 8GB of ram which was plenty back then. These days on my main desktop I have 32GB DDR4(will goto 64GB soon because I can, and want to keep this PC for a long time), my main laptop has 24GB DDR4(8GB soldered/16GB stick), and all my backup laptops run 16GB of DDR3, which for basic task on Manjaro Gnome Linux is more than enough these days if your not gaming or a running displays past 1080p.
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Over 20y. ago, i payd 1000 Swiss Francs for 1 GB RAM in Switzerland.
1000 Franken in 2004? Das ist ja gefühlt ein Vermögen für 1 GB.
The only thing I could think of [to fill up ram] would be to do something that's rather modern on something very old. I wonder if the Lama 2 CPP project would run on that machine with that much RAM.
Run an LLM on an ancient computer. That would be rather interesting, i wonder how slow it would be.
I had 64MB in the Year 2000, I’ve updated it to 256MB soon, but I paid it in Euro, so that was after 2001. I had to use Infineon Memory, because all other brands didn’t work; Memory was quite a complicated thing these days… 16GB I’ve used in my (normal) compute until 2019 :)
I upgraded to 12GB RAM in late 2013 and then to 16GB in 2016 and used that until 2019 when I upgraded to 24GB. Now my main PC has 64GB
on windows 2000 to use all the ram you might install kernel ex and get multiple instances of a modern-ish browser running, this much ram on a 32 bit system is achieved via pae so you are limited to 4gb of ram per task, and since you have multiple cpus you might as well just use them to run tasks in parallel
The program has to be large address aware to use the full 4 GB. Regular 32 bit applications can only use 2 or 3 GB of RAM. There is a patcher that can make binaries large address aware, but it doesn't always work.
I'm in a sort of similar quest but with DDR 2 and an Optiplex 755. You can put up to 16 GB of RAM on it, but you need low density DDR2 RAM for it because of the chipset. The thing is, low density DDR2 is more expensive than DDR4 with twice the capacity.
I ran 16GB from around 2017 to 2022, at which point my home server and then my main desktop were both upgraded to 32. My laptop still runs 16, which I find to still be plenty there, but if I were playing high-end games I certainly wouldn't be trying to multitask on it anymore.
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Currently run 3 systems of 128GB ram, all AM4, 1 2700x, 1 5700g and 1 5800x3d, I first ran 16GB with a Xeon X3210 2.13GHz @ 3.2GHz(S775 Kentsfield) with Windows xp x64, in 2000 I was running win98se and 256MB on a K6-2 500
very nice machine Victor!
these 900mhz chips you will get have 2MB cache, right?
special hardware sir, go go max out that thing.
you could run y-cruncher or other benchmarks. that would be a very interesting topic for a video.
Nice upgrade. Maybe find some game like a crysis of that time maybe oldschool 3dmark maxed out or similar. Not sure about gpu support or slot capability
At best, this server would have 64 bit PCI or PCI-X. While there were video cards for those slots, they were very rare and hideously expensive. They also generally weren't that good.
PCI-X is also often conflated with PCIe these days, making finding said cards difficult. There are a few listings for them on the bay right now for $60-$400, you just have to sift through all of the mislabeled PCIe cards to find them.
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you could run boink on it .. distributed computing .. they used to do the seti at home .. but there are many other projects you could join that will use mem and cpu for a serious test
If you want to fill up the RAM just install SQL Server and put some databases on it. In database environments RAM is preferable over disk when it comes to speed. I guess back in the days machines like this were made for heavier workloads like databases.
I have 16GB DDR4 (3000MHz) from April 2019 till now in my $349 Ryzen 3 2200G with a 512GB nvme (3400/2300MB/s). I plan a mid life upgrade to a Ryzen 5 5600G and 32GB of DDR4 this year.
In 2004/05 I bought a HP Vectra VLi 8 SFF with an Intel Pentium III (600MHz) and 384 MB of memory (133MHz). The PC was an off-lease PC from 1999/2000, so it counts somewhat.
My first thought for using all that RAM is a modern web browser. They use multiple processes which would help with the 2GB per process limitation. But these browsers usually need XP and SSE2 so that's no fun here. In the year 2000 our family PC was still running 16 megs. Today my everyday laptop has 6 gigs (not 16).
Geweldig! Er zijn interessante plekken waar je nog een oudere machine kunt opduiken - maar ik zou er geen Windows opzetten.. natuurlijk is 16Gb op W2K ongelofelijk.. ?veel?
want die machines waren ontworpen voor ' veel geheugen ' (16Gb is de max)
En hoe je aan dat type geheugen bent gekomen.. ok..YaY !
ik heb nu een opslag machine met 24Gb/10C/20T/25M cache : st=18T
- nog geen legacy.. maar toch al tien jaar oud.
Is raided ram drives a thing?
I've been running 128gb since ~2022, 16 gb somewhere between 2014-2018 :)
The original memory is 3 GB not 5 GB. 8x 128MB SDRAM sticks are a total of 1GB. Adding 4x 512MB sticks adds 2GB to the original amount the machine came with. Total= 3072MB.
Would it be time appropriate to run a Blackberry Enterprise Server on there?
I would be curious to see an early linux server running on here.
Or maybe something more modern running a minecraft server.
Run Minecraft servers, Quake, maybe WoW emulated server, etc. Make your own retro gaming nexus.
scuuusii
Year 2000 768Mb
However i had a machine from 1995 with 2GB,
16 Gb never had, jumped from 8Gb i had in 2006 to 128Gb in 2012.
Now my biggest machine has 3TB just because its possible
Does that Windows 2000 edition use software tricks to support the 16gb? 32-bit can address 4gb
Hi - Various IA32 processors, such as the Pentium III that came in this hardware, and Windows 2000 Advanced Server support Intel Physical Address Extension (PAE) which introduced 64-bit addressing to IA32 c. 1995.
The wikipedia entry on it is good.
Microsoft's online documentation says, "The following operating systems can use PAE to take advantage of physical memory beyond 4 GB:
Microsoft Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Microsoft Windows 2000 Datacenter Server
Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Enterprise Edition
Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition"
and, elsewhere, "PAE is supported only on the following 32-bit versions of Windows running on x86-based systems:
Windows 7 (32 bit only)
Windows Server 2008 (32-bit only)
Windows Vista (32-bit only)
Windows Server 2003 (32-bit only)
Windows XP (32-bit only)"
(I was learning more about it myself, so thought I'd share what I found. Peace.)
256gb ddr4 rdimm costed me around 270 usd 🙊🙊
some time ago i had dell server with 2 p3 cpu with around 4gb od ram.
16gb up 2 2015 in my workstation every system got 32gb, my car get also an update 2 32gb :D
I imagine you'll only be able to have one process see at most 4GB. So maybe try 4 ram disks. Really simple way to fill it.
I run Retro computer on Linux, with 96 GB on my Lenovo ThinkStation D20
I used 16 GB RAM 4 maybe 5 years ago
You can install a modern Linux on it. Some distributions such as Debian or Arch are still available for 32 bit CPUs. Then you simply open many Chrome tabs to fill the RAM. With this much memory, you can actually use it like a modern PC. It will be much slower, but everything should at least load and run.
PS. I recently managed to install Debian 12 on my retro PC, but it has a single Pentium II and 256 megs or RAM, so I can only work in text mode.
"32 bit" in Linux is a misnomer. While it's 32 bit, most modern Linux software expects SSE2/3 and some other instructions that the PIII does not have. You definitely won't be running Firefox or Chome without recompiling them, or using old versions.
We're just now starting to run into that with 64 bit x86 as well, with older 64 bit processors not having the instructions required by modern software and are unsupported.
x86 is a dumpster fire of vaguely defined standards.
Can it run Morrowind or any of the GTA games? Maybe with enough mods installed those can push a lot of RAM, of course, they'll each be limited to like 2-3GB or something.
Can u give me the full name of the win2k server version?
Only Windows 2000 Datacenter Server can run that much memory.
Well that sql server will be taking a while for the memory leak to fill up the ram. :p
hey victor, kom je uit belgie of nederland?
ik heb jou advies nodig
16GB from 2012 to 2017 in my workstation but each of my 3 nodes has 256GB in
I think SQL Server 2005 will do it, it loves ram
"Scusi?" 16GB on a 32 bit system? :)
On my previous PC I ran 16GB until about 2019. It got filled up a couple of times so I decided to max it out with 64GB.
Right now on my new PC I maxed it out again and got 128GB DDR5
I have 32gb, when i upgraded from a r5 2600 with 3000mhz 16gb (a crap corsair kit) to a 5800x and 32gb ram 3600mhz (Kingston kit) so i could overclock the infinity bus but still run it @ 1:1 which is best for AMD on AM4 socket.
If i still had my pentium ii in 2001 it was 32mb lol but i remember getting 64mb for settlers 4. If it was my Duron then yeah 256mb then 512mb.
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Run something like SQL Server on it...
i run a linux pc with 16 gig of ram, its good enoug for my usage
from what I can tell, VMware came out may 1999, so... lot of VM's?
Upgraded my laptop to 32 gb in 2019
Where are the 900 mhz pentium 3 xeons??????
install exchange on it (●'◡'●) i wonder if a Intel C47518-003 82597ex Pro/10gbe SR Pci-x Server Adapter wil work 🤔riding the maxed out theme .... great video Vic
My current PC with the most memory has 12 GB. Back in 2000? I think that would have been my Pentium III 866 which I think had 512 MB. Could have been 256 but I think it was 512.
What about a crazy RAM drive?
I had 128mb in 2000, I have 16gb today
Why shouldn't it work? As long the CPU supports PAE and the OS you can go up to 128 GB depending on the used CPUs. Our customers had several of these running back in the days.
i ran 48 gigs in my lga 1366 build 6 8gig sticks lol
But!
Can it run crysis ?
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Maybe try a RAMDisk?
PAE /3G flags FTW
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ps:my pc just 256mb in 2000 yearago
My PC has 32MB of memory in 2000 😝
scoosi
Install Server 2003 R2 x64.. at least be able to use all the RAM.
Pentium 3 xeon is only 32 bit
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In this case it’s a Compaq!