Traveling in the NBA - Have the rules changed?

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  • Many people have wanted me to point out LeBron's traveling violations prior to him complaining about supposedly not getting a call, however it's become more complicated than that since people now claim several things have happened: That the NBA changed the rules, that there is an extra step allowed, that the rules have stayed the same and it's always been a third step called a gather step, etc. So I compared old footage to new footage to get a better understanding of the gather step.
    00:00 Introduction
    00:25 Have the rules changed? Interpretation changed?
    00:41 Defining the gather step and incorporating it in dribbling and traveling
    03:48 Did the old school players not understand the rules?
    04:45 Why would superior athletes need the game to be made easier?
    05:05 Did you realize they didn't even travel in the dunk contest in the old days?
    05:47 Vince Carter's Olympics dunk.
    06:30 Examining old footage to see how many steps they used to take
    13:01 Now look at LeBron's gather and steps compared to the old footage
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ความคิดเห็น • 305

  • @iamaretheone4083
    @iamaretheone4083 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    Since people like talk about back in the day players were plumbers and firemen I guess we can call this generation flight attendants with all the traveling they be doing 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @andrewmauney3082
      @andrewmauney3082 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @TenaciousZen
      @TenaciousZen ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LOL!!!!

    • @jsfbr
      @jsfbr ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good one.

    • @spitnificent
      @spitnificent ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂🎯

    • @demitremorekis8550
      @demitremorekis8550 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Outstanding comment. Thanks for making me laugh so hard I had hiccups for a few minutes.

  • @watsup1506
    @watsup1506 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Hot take: Lebron's legacy: he ruined NBA basketball

    • @matolaugh6167
      @matolaugh6167 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      1000%

    • @kendrickjobe2149
      @kendrickjobe2149 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Would be one helluva novel.

    • @watsup1506
      @watsup1506 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Dimitry Barthelemy Thus validating how great of an impact MJ had on the NBA making him the GOAT!

    • @Ozem_Israel
      @Ozem_Israel ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He the ANTI GOAT

    • @upcdowncleftcrightc9429
      @upcdowncleftcrightc9429 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Actually not that controversial. His ex teammate Iman shumpert said that same thing LeBron ruined basketball by the super team hopping. He and his friends in the media made it seem normal.

  • @aymanibrahim9736
    @aymanibrahim9736 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    The rule never changed, but refs got an email from Adam silver, telling them that those brats can not play by the rules, if they called travels and carries, the scoring leader would have 20 ppg.
    This is the absolute worst era of basketball, skill wise, competition wise, mentality wise and team play in general, the game has been dumbed down, and it stopped being a perfectly designed competitive sport that is also a business, and it became a business that is mediocre entertainment at best.
    The last true competitive years ended with Kobe, Dirk and Tim.

    • @idkidk2573
      @idkidk2573 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kobe used to do that stop, grab the ball with 2 hands and then continue dribbling a LOT, I would even say he made it popular, go watch Kobe's travel against Spain that was uncalled, he used to do that same travel all the time.

    • @idkidk2573
      @idkidk2573 ปีที่แล้ว

      The rule did change in 2009.

    • @LowkeyT4Prezident
      @LowkeyT4Prezident 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts

    • @roboninja3194
      @roboninja3194 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@idkidk2573 Did he not show what the rules are for 2022-23? Pretty sure he did in the video.

    • @idkidk2573
      @idkidk2573 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@roboninja3194 Ok but he said the last true competitive years were with Kobe and he used to do that travel al the time.

  • @TheJesseGladSaget
    @TheJesseGladSaget ปีที่แล้ว +73

    This is the biggest reason why I LOL hard when these time-machine idiots talk about dropping modern players back into the 60's so they could "average 100ppg." Drop any one of these guys into the 60's and they get called for traveling EVERY.SINGLE.POSSESSION. The ref$ were MILITANT about calling traveling back then. Now they don't call shit. It's a joke

    • @bwink23
      @bwink23 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Also carrying the ball...that's why they looked awkward dribbling, every dribble was hand on top of ball.

    • @BrooklynBalla
      @BrooklynBalla 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Fouls were even more strict back in the 60’s and 70’s.Especially offensive fouls.You couldn’t initiate contact on drives.Refs back then allowed a minimal amount.Players couldn’t go barging into defenders like Lebron.I recently watched the Lakers vs Knicks finals games and was really caught off guard at the foul calls.

  • @jsfbr
    @jsfbr ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The extra step destroys any defense plan conceivable.

  • @AngryOldHoops
    @AngryOldHoops  ปีที่แล้ว +35

    For all the brontards on here saying the rules were changed for Jordan, why is Jordan only taking two steps in every clip?

    • @idkidk2573
      @idkidk2573 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jordan used to travel all the time on his first step and his post moves, I{ll say they were not as bad as some of these tho.

    • @Marlowe10100
      @Marlowe10100 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not all the time, he did travelled ocassionally but it's obvious that he mostly tried to play by the rules. On the other hand , Lebron and the current players do travel all the time.@@idkidk2573

    • @Elver99Gudon
      @Elver99Gudon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@idkidk2573upload clips of Jordan traveling. This is a lie

    • @sugarnads
      @sugarnads 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Elver99Gudonyou only gotta watch him for more than the highlights reels dude.
      He travelled a lot. He carried a lot. He got ghost fouls called all the time.
      He was when the rot started coz they wanted to push the marketting.

    • @bigdog2610
      @bigdog2610 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@sugarnads Another kid lying lol

  • @jasonpeng6767
    @jasonpeng6767 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    if you spent any amount of time playing basketball at all, when you take more than 2 steps it just feels WRONG/WEIRD. Even watching someone travel something weird jumps out at you. So people defending these travel calls nowadays, are either blind, or have never touched a basketball.

    • @ketobin1896
      @ketobin1896 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      THAT IS SO EFFING SPOT ON ! I GET THE SAME FEELING SEEING A PLAYER TRAVEL! IT LOOKS LIKE A GLITCH OR SOMETHING ! YOU FEEL IT IN YOUR BODY IN A WAY....MAY SOUND STRANGE BUT ITS TRUE- I WOULD IMAGINE ONLY FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE PLAYED A LOT

  • @plimi
    @plimi ปีที่แล้ว +64

    People underestimate the advantage this gives to the player on offense. How's the defender supposed to jump to contest the shot at the right time when he does not know how many steps the player attacking the rim is going to take?

    • @lequack7399
      @lequack7399 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      that and no contact in defence = more scoring, which is the goal, too bad it became total shit where more players play defence like Bron or Harden...

    • @Marlowe10100
      @Marlowe10100 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Look at where MJ starts rising up after his second step, his so far from the rim. Players can't take off that far, that's why they take 3 steps to rise closer to the rim. That alone proves no one in the league right now is close to the athleticism MJ had.

    • @devinpoole4528
      @devinpoole4528 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Marlowe10100just ask any bron fan the players r so athletic today that mj would just basically b derozen😂 I've actually had ppl say that to me. Beyond nonsense right? Downright hilarious.

    • @dash4800
      @dash4800 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@devinpoole4528 i've tried to explain to people that MJ mastered getting to the rim by getting around defenders with his dribble and smart manipulation of defenders. And that was when defenders could be all over you. Today he could get to the rim all day without anyone really contesting him.

    • @davidking3367
      @davidking3367 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amen

  • @JohnSmith-oe5kx
    @JohnSmith-oe5kx ปีที่แล้ว +44

    PLEASE do a similar video for "stepback moves", which are almost all three steps (except Harden's which are four). Long range shooting is a lot easier when you can cheat.

    • @matolaugh6167
      @matolaugh6167 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Harden doesn't have the media constantly talking about him and everything he does like lebron that's why he does lebron

    • @djdjdax2253
      @djdjdax2253 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🎯🎯🎯

    • @adameves5970
      @adameves5970 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's the same video. It applies to ANY steps you take. Regardless if those steps are backwards.
      Just watch THIS video and you're done.

  • @Marchand848
    @Marchand848 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The ambiguity of travelling in the NBA now is so bad that I don’t even think the refs know how to call it.

    • @spaciousgrace3816
      @spaciousgrace3816 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They don’t want to upset the players 🙄

    • @AndiKod
      @AndiKod 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They don't call it because they are not willing to lose their job. It's no more sport but entertaining while in fact it's boring when you actually know the rules.

  • @ezekiorage41
    @ezekiorage41 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    They needed to change the rules because players like LeBron with limited skill wouldn't survive, plus traveling can be hard to call. It is however frustrating when you see players (like LeFraud) incorrectly use the gather step and no longer getting called for taking 3 steps...brings the integrity of league into question, like how many points would Lebron really have if they didn't let him constantly take three steps?

    • @letmetellyousomethin9410
      @letmetellyousomethin9410 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Or illegally bulldozing defenders as if it was the NFL. Totally disgusting basketball. Not the sport we grew up watching.

    • @RichardRennes
      @RichardRennes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@letmetellyousomethin9410 Like at 13:08-13:09. The big forearm pushoff.

    • @turtleislandlac1490
      @turtleislandlac1490 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lebron played one season in the handcheck era, his rookie year. And he shot 41.7%. Then the new rules opened up the game and of course his stats got better evey year. His rookie year is probably a small indication of what he would do in Jordan's era, but he has the rookie year, out of HS excuse so we'll likely never know what prime Lebron would do under rules of the past.

    • @devinpoole4528
      @devinpoole4528 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@turtleislandlac1490I'd say since his game hasn't evolved at all since then its probably a good indicator of how he would done in the 90s.

    • @davidking3367
      @davidking3367 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True

  • @brucesmith1544
    @brucesmith1544 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Doncic whole post game is travelling

  • @joegarcia7260
    @joegarcia7260 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This shit has been driving me crazy. This video was important. Every true fan and fanboy should objectively view this. Thanks AOHF.

    • @TenaciousZen
      @TenaciousZen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      there is NO SUCH THING AS A ZERO STEP. period. its maddening and the reason why i no longer enjoy the NBA. College is MUCH better at this point.

  • @danycjones1325
    @danycjones1325 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Lakers Last night 40 free throws 40! Even with letrash and AD out nba still cheating for lakers

  • @visionary515
    @visionary515 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You know I hear lebron fans say that we are gonna miss lebron when he is gone. What has lebron done for basketball to be missed? I've seen his whole career and I don't remember anything special. Larry and magic saved the nba, and MJ made it global. He also made the average person wanna watch the games. What did lebron do? Thats an honest question.

    • @crharper25
      @crharper25 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Absolutely nothing. Only his fans will miss him. For everybody else....it'll just be a brighter day for the league.

    • @georgebrice8329
      @georgebrice8329 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Turn us off made the game watchable

  • @tiyukitv6508
    @tiyukitv6508 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The foot where you had to gather... thats the same foot where you should take off. Its so simple but this new hoopers just takes the game for granted. keep safe always Angry Old hoops Fan. you are a gem.✌

    • @idkidk2573
      @idkidk2573 ปีที่แล้ว

      But lets not ignore the fact that MJ used to travel all the time too.

    • @MeLoveParisHilton
      @MeLoveParisHilton 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​​​@@idkidk2573yes, no one is perfect. MJ had some uncalled travels too, but it was mostly pretty minor stuff and you really had to go and slow down the film to see it. Mostly just a small sliding or lifting of his pivot foot. And actually some of these got called when in today's NBA it's just zero chance for something like that to be called.
      LBJ meanwhile travels at every game and some of the travels are plain ridiculous like taking 3, 4 or even 5 steps, walking with the ball, picking up the ball and then continuing dribbling. Please show me a video where MJ travels like that. LeBron has 15 minute compilations of outrageous uncalled travels. The dude ruined the NBA.

    • @Elver99Gudon
      @Elver99Gudon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@MeLoveParisHiltonLebron literally turns into a running back to take it from the 3 point line to the rim 😂

  • @imonangeltime4253
    @imonangeltime4253 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Today's players are so much bigger, stronger and faster that they need an extra step to display their far superior capabilities

  • @TheGuesteMC
    @TheGuesteMC ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Send this video straight to Adam Silver and have him retrain the referees with it

  • @JetEngine85
    @JetEngine85 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If NBA starts forcing strict rules about traveling, only a handful of players will be able to play.. most of them are used to how it's being played nowadays

  • @richiegonzo50
    @richiegonzo50 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    That was part of the conversation back during the dunk contest between MJ and Nique. They executed their dunks within in game rules.

    • @idkidk2573
      @idkidk2573 ปีที่แล้ว

      So we gonna ignore the double dribble.

  • @Ragehol
    @Ragehol ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Part of this comes from the NBA letting people into the league with minimal to no collegiate or semi-pro/international play experience. These high schooler baby-phenoms don't have experience following rules. Almost every rule change, written and unwritten, for decades has been about making it easier to score and because scoring is up after scoring has been catered to for decades, "Hey look, there's more points, more points=more betterer! We're blessed to be watching SUPERIOR ATHLETES." LMAO.

    • @idkidk2573
      @idkidk2573 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lets not act like MJ didn{t use to travell almost everytime he took a first step.

    • @djdjdax2253
      @djdjdax2253 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🧢

    • @Elver99Gudon
      @Elver99Gudon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@idkidk2573what? Show proof that's a dumb claim

    • @idkidk2573
      @idkidk2573 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Elver99Gudon Just watch this video for example "Jordan travels twice on one play".

  • @finessethaprofit7325
    @finessethaprofit7325 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Giannis gets away with this all night aswell and hes a 7ft monster so it's even that much more unguardable, I hate it

  • @ori1034
    @ori1034 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The gater step rule was introduced by the FIBA in 2019 to protect American players(allowed to take one step when getting the ball IN MOTION and BEFORE they INITIATE the dribble, NEVER DURING or AT THE END of the dribble) from embarrassment in international competitions. A year later the nba and some "stars" with the help of the media clowns, twisted the rule to basically allow TRAVEL at any point during the dribble, BUT, if you read the travel rules, they REMAIN THE SAME, after you finish the dribble (gaining control of the ball, this is your last ball bounce in any serious basketball competition) TWO STEPS (one each feet) TWO STEPS (one feet + two feets landing at the same time) or TWO STEPS ( two at he same time + Pivot) TWO STEPS no mather what. For instance, the commonly used reverse layup the way nba players do it IS TRAVEL ALLWAYS.

  • @mrho4speed
    @mrho4speed ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you for this video. I have a hard time watching the NBA today because there is a traveling violation or palming and carrying the ball violation on virtually every possession. If possible next time show the outrageous "step backs" that are allowed today where players are lifting both feet and hopping backwards. What is sad is that kids today are learning all these same habits and the rules of the game are being ignored. This is a direct result of street ball and players finding ways to cheat without referees being present because when your team loses you have to sit until the next game and players today are too selfish and weak to admit their team lost so lying and cheating have become prevalent.

  • @Kashed
    @Kashed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I have been saying this since Lebron came into the league. It stands out so much and is so obvious, your eyes pick it up even in real time because something looks off. I used to think Ewing was bad but, Lebron has taken it to another level. He is the King of Steps! If they enforced the rules and called the obvious traveling and offensive fouls he commits Lebron wouldn’t have half the points he has now. The NBA and the refs purposely ignore it because they marketed him as the face of the league and doing so would hurt their product.

  • @ukyo2010
    @ukyo2010 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have thought for years that one major thing I liked about Jordan's dunks in the dunk contest is they would be legal in a game. I have always found unsatisfying dunk contest dunks that couldn't legally be done in a game. Other people might not care, but it just doesn't mean much in my mind because my mind says, "That isn't real basketball". Just like trampoline dunk do nothing for me.
    A side note, I mention that a player's high scoring game is greatly diminished as an accomplishment in my mind if his/her team loses the game. Similarly, in my mind, the greatest pass doesn't mean much if the person getting the ball doesn't score or passes to someone who fails to score. While not as diminished if the failure to score on the pass was due to being fouled, the beauty and coolness of the pass is still much diminished.

  • @26MECH
    @26MECH 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ive noticed that too....we couldn't get away with this back in highschool basketball in the 90s lol

  • @TheKennsimpson
    @TheKennsimpson ปีที่แล้ว +11

    LeBron hate I can respect. But one thing that is lost in all the haterade is that players can hardly tell when to challenge the shots anymore especially layups cause when does the dribbling end? Does it ever end? Makes defense extremely difficult even if you have the skill & desire to do it.

    • @AngryOldHoops
      @AngryOldHoops  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think that’s a given. Of course they can’t tell when to challenge the shot when the ref may or may not give them an extra step or even an extra dribble after picking up the ball

  • @letmetellyousomethin9410
    @letmetellyousomethin9410 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another 10/10 video! Bravo sir.

  • @manz7860
    @manz7860 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Basketball is hard to watch nowadays. Tuned into a warriors game last week and it was just jordan Poole carrying and chucking 3s.
    It's no wonder players are dropping points at a record clip. Between defense becoming an afterthought. All the rules to increase pace of play and allow dribbling violations. It's hardly basketball.

  • @JohnSmith-oe5kx
    @JohnSmith-oe5kx ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Obviously it isn't that there was a third step that players could gave taken advantage of in the old days! When they took that step (and refs caught it) they were called for travelling.

  • @roboninja3194
    @roboninja3194 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The NBA has told it's officials to not enforce the rules so there can be more scoring. It's that simple. NBA players have never had it easier. The jump stomp is another ridiculous thing that's been incorporated into the game that has never made sense.

    • @tudorm6838
      @tudorm6838 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If is true, it is a fraud. They break their own rules to gain more money.

  • @tendousouji14344
    @tendousouji14344 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    the fact that lbj fans commenting on your vids hehe

  • @verbalkint3447
    @verbalkint3447 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You roasts are epic!!!

  • @patrickhenry2845
    @patrickhenry2845 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Adam Silver has said in the past, that LeBron James is the face of the NBA. Does anyone not believe that?

  • @kb-un9db
    @kb-un9db ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Not basketball Association

  • @blancosmoke
    @blancosmoke 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ok, so… I’m 40. I’m also EXTREMELY bothered by the modern interpretation of the rules, but, the first 5 minutes of this video are dedicated towards the gather while receiving the ball while pointing out examples of “gathering” or picking up, the dribble. In the old days, if you caught the ball, and started running without dribbling, it was a travel at 2 steps. That was bad officiating cuz they didn’t understand the rules. The modern officiating allow a gather “step” after picking up the dribble that becomes 4-5 steps cuz they also don’t understand the rules.
    Long story short: NBA officiating nowadays is taught to not penalize offense, cuz casual fans love offense. It’ll always drive me crazy, but I accept it.
    What drives ME crazy is that highschoolers are taught to do it now.

  • @sonnywoods6846
    @sonnywoods6846 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for this video. I have said this before always fact-check what an LBJ fan says no matter what! After the LBJ tantrum game, I didn't fact-check what someone said about it. Dude said that called a Gather step, and I asked a friend did they change the rules or something so I took it at face value. Then My Man angry hoops fans come out today in the clutch with some hardcore facts. Now I am like I knew I should have fact checked that sht. The game has changed so much that its easy to believe some BS based on what you are watching.
    If a Lebron James fan in the media or on social media says something ALWAY FACT, CHECK IT! Because they are LIARS

  • @bwink23
    @bwink23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's sad you actually have to slow this down for the young kids to figure out what an extra 3rd step looks like.

  • @jakubkrivanek3112
    @jakubkrivanek3112 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    LBJ IMHO wouldn't have beaten Kareem if all his travelling and offensive fouls were called right.

  • @leadlefthand
    @leadlefthand 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even without the audio, I still hear Marv Albert's line, "Oh, a spectacular move by Michael Jordan", every time I see that mid-air right-to-left shift shot in the Finals game against the Lakers, lol

  • @fobinc
    @fobinc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Makes me facepalm watching people argue gather step and travels. I've seen games since 2001 and never have I seen this level of traveling. James Harden, Lebron James, Jordan Poole, and sadly, my man Steph.

  • @mobbindavid7359
    @mobbindavid7359 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think not traveling in the dunk contest actually makes the contest better

  • @LowkeyT4Prezident
    @LowkeyT4Prezident 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Traveling used to exist now it’s just another Mandela effect

  • @maxfernandez7592
    @maxfernandez7592 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to get called for traveling catching ball while pivoting, taking half a step, essentially while ball was in motion to dribble in high school. They counted landing, not forward motion, when catching on the move as 2 steps. I get refs back then tried their best to keep it tight. It made me focus so much more on outside shooting. Luckily for me I was a sharpshooter.

  • @big8dog887
    @big8dog887 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would like to see some 2000s footage of guys like Kobe and Iverson and Nash to see if we can better pinpoint when this change took place.

  • @dannybachner899
    @dannybachner899 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't even know if I could learn how to take the 3 steps they take today I'm not sure I could unlearn 2 steps

  • @a.k.7840
    @a.k.7840 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @9:02 the step you labeled #1 for Bird I believe was actually his gather step with the left foot. His right foot should be step #1 which takes place @9:06 followed by step #2 @9:08.

  • @k3nfr0st39
    @k3nfr0st39 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    11:30 ONLY when he has an uncontested open lane dunk he follows the rule. When he faces clogged lanes though...

  • @vernonleewarren280
    @vernonleewarren280 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent content bro!

  • @edselharrison
    @edselharrison 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with everything you said. It's ridiculous how the pros and even college players get away with traveling and even palmimg the ball. They're not playing by the rules.

  • @David-ej4cg
    @David-ej4cg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    dude i really like your videos man

  • @yoshikay8787
    @yoshikay8787 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After these videos, you sir got my subscription!!

  • @yettiluch1
    @yettiluch1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    LeTravel james

  • @dervish816
    @dervish816 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    you have explained it so well, but those unbelievers would still find ways to disagree. It is just too sad that players and even superstars do not respect the game as the greats before them did. all they care about is abusing the game.

  • @fiddleronthecube7835
    @fiddleronthecube7835 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for agreeing with me about traveling and double-dribbling. Ever since Michael Jordan, the game became, "I just dribble when I feel like it. The ref is blind as a bat," There's also the fact that traveling calls slow down the game, which is why there's so much allowed since MJ and others hop, skip, and jump before going to the basket. The fans don't care about all the traveling. They just want to see points racked up.

  • @roblane4858
    @roblane4858 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    yes, why didnt all the NBA players never take more than 2 steps and why did all the refs forever always call traveling when anyone took more than 2 steps???

  • @mostmost1
    @mostmost1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nba refs mysteriously started allowing this once I stopped playing. They called one long step a travel when I played. They called Dominique jump stop a travel back then.

  • @Turk_2023
    @Turk_2023 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The gather step rule was implemented in the last 10-15 years. So Lebron playing pg would catch the ball and take 2 steps before dribbling and get called for travel when he got into the league, they changed it for him. Other guys were doing it too because Lebron made it popular. Lebrons argument was he either did not have control yet so it was not a travel, or modern day athletes are more athletic and can move faster than the ref can see making it look like a travel.

  • @NS-mm6jq
    @NS-mm6jq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:01 definitely a travel from Bird. For step with his left leg, then the second one with a right one (you don’t said about it) and the third one again with a left leg

  • @WuAgent
    @WuAgent หลายเดือนก่อน

    These kids don't know how good they have it. They have zero steps, drop steps, gather steps, dub steps.
    All we had was traveling.

  • @zaybrielclanton
    @zaybrielclanton 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn… it’s crazy cause even I go around repeating and respecting that the rules have changed cause I’ve seen nba specials on nbatv talking about the zero/gather step.

  • @siupao21
    @siupao21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you search for "gather steps in 90s NBA", you could also get a lot of video that how NBA players at the past using the Zero steps, including MJ. There are people traveling crazily nowadays, but does not means this rules is wrong, just the rule at the past is not clear so people seldom use it (or they won't let you know the tricks). Joey Crawford already explained, it is because in a transition movement it is just difficult to determine what is "gather a ball", and so this updated rule is to clarify the things. People traveling crazily now (even they already took more than 012 steps) and don't get a call, that's the problem from the referee, not the rules. And I think this is what hurting today's NBA. Even nowadays you will also find lots of players using the old 12 steps, at the end is just all depends on if the move is spontaneously smooth or not.

  • @ashharris7293
    @ashharris7293 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My dad played in the 40s and 50s. He experience was anything not on the exact top of the ball when dribbling was a carry which is why the game was all weave and passing. Relaxing the rule to the top part of the ball allowed for the point guard to advance and drive the ball. Even what Isiah was doing in these examples was a carry in the early 50s. Today, they are allowed to just flat out carry and walk. I like the Mavs but Jason Terry used to drive me crazy, he carried every dribble every game, all game. I stopped watching NBA in 2011. You can certainly look more athletic when steps and carry don't matter. Every time I flip it on to check it out, its a clown show now. Unwatchable crap.

  • @djm751
    @djm751 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @AngryOldHoops I think that you've marked the steps incorrectly in the Larry Bird moment at 9:00. The step that you've marked as 1 (left foot) is actually the gather step and after that Larry takes two steps (right, left) but you somehow count them as one.

  • @RKYJHAIRSTUDIOS
    @RKYJHAIRSTUDIOS ปีที่แล้ว

    Fact! I’ve brought up that very point before. They say, “the dunks are better too”, but these fools don’t even dribble in these contests, so no. They aren’t better

  • @daroseille
    @daroseille 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hate to say it, but you're wrong about that Lebron vs Celtics clip. His gather step is the step you labeled as 1 (12:20) . That's when he gathered the ball in two hands. The ball was still traveling up to his hands when he took the step before.

  • @Continuetheslowgrind
    @Continuetheslowgrind 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He’s a Traveling king 🧳🏀

  • @conditionallyunconditional5691
    @conditionallyunconditional5691 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A defender locks down the handle but the handle travels/walks to create more space. After the ball stop & pivot, the defender knows after 2 steps, it's either pass or shoot. The refs dont care if its LeTravel James, hes the greatest actor, so let him slide, flop, choke, travel, walk & complain if the call doesnt go his way. I've seen LJ throw air balls, missed layups, missed slam dunks, losing his handle of the ball...mostly uncontested, untouched...after these sloppy embarrassments, lequeen blames the opposing team. He was a great, talented player for the first 8 years. You'd think his skill sets would improve over time? He ends up relying on sloppy play and his team to carry him. A true GOAT doesnt resort to play & compete like that to win! Hes not even in my top 10 players of all time! He almost was there but not anymore. 😂

  • @eastbee1034
    @eastbee1034 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jordan's freethrow dunk was the most impressive and more difficult because Jordan kept a live dribble and didn't run with the ball!!

  • @Rockstopmotion
    @Rockstopmotion 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    6:27 lmao Gary Payton with hair is wild 🤣

  • @tucsonbandit
    @tucsonbandit 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't like Lebron much, but 1:40 is not a travel. He grabs the ball with two hands at first, he is not dribbling...then he takes a step to his left and dribbles.

  • @a.k.7840
    @a.k.7840 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm no fan of LeBron, but help me understand. @12:14 when LeBron dribbles the ball, you seem to be calling that step the gather step, the step where the ball and the foot are hitting the ground at the same time, but according to the rules the gather doesn't occur until the ball comes to a rest, both hands touch it or there is a pause right? I would say the very next step @12:18, where his right foot hits the ground and he places both hands on the ball, the gather step. Then it's left foot, right foot and launch. Doesn't look like a travel to me from this angle. @12:54 against the Hornets that was DEFINITELY a travel!

    • @AngryOldHoops
      @AngryOldHoops  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Compare it to the footage I show later of the old days. That’s the same step they previously considered a gather step. Whatever you want to call it, it’s more steps than anyone took before.

    • @djm751
      @djm751 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AngryOldHoops None of the examples from the old footage show that the gather is when the ball is on the floor, it's not the point when the dribble is considered to be over. It's the point when a player gains control of the ball thus ending the dribble. There's no way 12:17 (left foot on the floor) can be considered a "gather", how do you know that he's not going to keep dribbling? Only the next step (right foot on the floor) is the point where he gains control of the ball, and after that he takes two steps. Let's be fair, this one is absolutely NOT a travel.

  • @chousan1024
    @chousan1024 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    at least russ was called for that travel LOL

    • @jsfbr
      @jsfbr ปีที่แล้ว

      Refs are compelled to call more than 32 steps or they are fired.

  • @eastbee1034
    @eastbee1034 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It started with LeBUM's crab dribble!!

  • @user-nw4ln6gr5v
    @user-nw4ln6gr5v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    See, you have your pre gather, the gather, your post gather, and all the gatherings you need before and after the dribble. 😂

  • @Marlowe10100
    @Marlowe10100 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Look at where MJ starts rising up after his second step, his so far from the rim. Players can't take off that far, that's why they take 3 steps to rise closer to the rim. That alone proves no one in the league right now is close to the athleticism MJ had.

    • @tudorm6838
      @tudorm6838 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, you need more steps when you're not athletic enough to dunk from distance. Or when you don't have enough skills to escape defenders in two steps. It's like playing (American) football where defenders are not allowed to touch you.

  • @leeleethal8636
    @leeleethal8636 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whatever happened to a fundamental jumpstop? Wtf is a damn gather

  • @PhotriusPyrelus
    @PhotriusPyrelus ปีที่แล้ว

    9:05 He takes 3 steps. The second step is obscured by the legs of other players. You can tell because your 1 and 2 are the same leg (his left).
    EDIT: Actually, it's arguable that what you call 1 is his Gather Step; so it could still be 2 steps.

  • @itsdw2323
    @itsdw2323 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Problem is lebron is not athletic - for an athlete. That’s a problem.

    • @chousan1024
      @chousan1024 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      lebron is athletic in the sense that he can run and jump LOL
      but he is certainly NOT agile, his skills are terrible for a supposed goat

    • @spaciousgrace3816
      @spaciousgrace3816 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@chousan1024 I say this all the time and people think I’m delusional

    • @chousan1024
      @chousan1024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spaciousgrace3816 yea the people that believe lebron is the most skilled basketball player have no idea about basketball or sports in general
      they are most likely not athletes themselves, lol
      either way, we who speak the truth are labeled the crazy ones, sad

  • @lifethrualense1234
    @lifethrualense1234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really wish the nba would just admit they changed the rules for these “superstars” and put it in The rule books at 3 steps. 4 steps becomes a foul with shots and 5 steps is a flagrant 1. Let’s see these scoring averages drop baby!

  • @donaldelliottjr6274
    @donaldelliottjr6274 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the video

  • @tylerwilson8615
    @tylerwilson8615 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You weren’t getting away with any sort of traveling back in the Jordan era. That’s yet another reason why if Mike played today he’d easily average 50. Wilt would average whatever he wanted. Shaq would shoot 40 free throws a game. Todays nba is a joke

  • @davidking3367
    @davidking3367 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video

  • @Riese79
    @Riese79 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Carters dunk isnt a good example. It was basicaly a offensive foul in the 60 /70 and maybe even the 80th

  • @jamieking007
    @jamieking007 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK 😂😂👍

  • @cgyiltis
    @cgyiltis 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don’t get me started with the stop-fake-step under-lift pivot foot and argue that that is legit. Or what about the jumping- landing in two feet and then pivoting when you actually cannot lift any feet your options are jumping with two feet or stay with the two feet on the ground

  • @sanchitverma8687
    @sanchitverma8687 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems like the clip against the clippers bron didnt travel. It looks clean to me. He is counting the gather step even though the ball was on the ground being dribbled. Just look at when he puts his hand under and grabs the ball with both hands. Simultaneous with the step. I would call that the gather and then 1 2 and foul. Got to give this one to bron. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t travel 90% of the times

  • @hiatus161
    @hiatus161 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The way the rules were changed, and I don't think it was all that recent was the hand on the side of ball no longer being a carry.

  • @AndrewBryanSapigaotarsonis
    @AndrewBryanSapigaotarsonis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your anger has rubbed on me coz I played ball and took it to heart and we always checked our dribbling and got called for overhead dribbling, illegal dribble (double dribble), jumping (yes, we did not incorporate pro-hop in our games). Pump fakes were enough. Now this generation is justifying carrying the ball. What's the purpose of practice? Is it hard to carry the ball? Hell no!

  • @RobustMustache
    @RobustMustache 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm always in the comments of the NBA Daily Top 10 calling out the travels.

  • @christianvittorio
    @christianvittorio 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    these videos have the exact same vibe as watching old 9/11 videos showing building 7 falling

  • @cuomosrevenge947
    @cuomosrevenge947 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I def agree with the gist of the channel but the first Larry bird one not all the steps were counted…

  • @benjaminhodick5754
    @benjaminhodick5754 วันที่ผ่านมา

    8:38 Larry Legend

  • @holographicdurag
    @holographicdurag ปีที่แล้ว +2

    some valid points here.. but calling lebron a "piece of shit" over a game was kind of weird.

  • @MaJelArt
    @MaJelArt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine Wilt Chamberlain playing today? With the current traveling rules? The soft, play? His teams would literally go undefeated averaging 100 points a game.

  • @JuggaloSupreme
    @JuggaloSupreme 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your channel is great! You explain everything and break it down nicely. And not in an angry way lol. Anyone who thinks LeFlop is a great should watch your channel LOL😂

  • @alvadagansta
    @alvadagansta 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8:59 is a pretty bad example. You counted the 1 when Larry's LEFT foot hit the ground, then you counted 2 when Larry's LEFT foot hit the ground again. Do I even have to explain why that's wrong?

  • @miked7765
    @miked7765 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm just disappointed that I can only like this once...

  • @gavinhadley7672
    @gavinhadley7672 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ..now do a video on palming the ball..if enforced it could be called on every possession