The Sins of the Devil Rays

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  • @HaydenSimmons44
    @HaydenSimmons44 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +415

    I went to a Devil Rays game in 2007 against the Padres. We bought nosebleed seats for like 10 dollars. The staff told us we could sit behind the dugout. There were maybe 100 people there. The Devil Rays lost 9-0. It was sad. But a fond memory.

    • @joshnunez5265
      @joshnunez5265 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      Pretty cool that the staff let you sit where you want though! 9-0 is brutal though, man those were the days 😭😭

    • @UpperCumberlandGamers
      @UpperCumberlandGamers 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@joshnunez5265yeah, usually in MLB games if there's a seat below you that is free and unreserved, you can take it

    • @Paul-nx3qz
      @Paul-nx3qz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No you didn’t 😂

    • @HaydenSimmons44
      @HaydenSimmons44 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@Paul-nx3qz Okay... Not really sure what you mean

    • @CompWin7Helper
      @CompWin7Helper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I believe you, i used to do the same. They don’t allow us to sit in nose bleeds anymore it’s so that the stadium looks more full than it really is. Everyone would just buy the nose bleeds seats for 10 bucks. Now they force u to pay at least 50 bucks for the surrounding seats

  • @kensuter57
    @kensuter57 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +314

    Man ik it’s hard to turn it down, but major respect for not following along with the ad. Better help seems sketchy at best

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +132

      I'm lucky that I don't NEED that money, because in other circumstances, I def would've taken it. They offer a lot, and that's why so many TH-camrs have taken their ad reads this past year, even after the controversy.
      It really was a situation where the more I looked into them, the worse I felt about supporting them.

    • @cococock2418
      @cococock2418 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      @@AndThatsBaseball They offer a lot because they need to offer a lot to silence people's conscious.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@AndThatsBaseballI’ve heard some people in comment sections say that the company is hard to cancel if you sign up for it.

    • @savage751
      @savage751 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I mean there a lot of "sketchy" companies out there that advertise..ultimately it comes down to the each individual person to do their own research and decide if doing something is in their own interest

    • @wafersmash338
      @wafersmash338 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@AndThatsBaseball I'll be honest, I didn't know they were a sketchy company. Thanks for your integrity

  • @fortynights1513
    @fortynights1513 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

    One thing I will say for the Devil Rays:
    The hats and helmets in the late 90’s and early 2000’s were pretty cool.

    • @bbryant9455
      @bbryant9455 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Came here just for this 💯🥶

  • @TheSolidSnakeOil
    @TheSolidSnakeOil 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    I still have a hard time watching video of Tony Saunders. Breaking his pitching arm had to be complete hell but happening again is a just kill me moment.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I have used that clip probably near half a dozen times now in my videos. It's gruesome, but it's so fascinating to me.

  • @legochickenguy4938
    @legochickenguy4938 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    Trading away a 5 WAR player for a manager should be brought up more often in the many discussions about the worst trades of all time

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I think managers were slightly more valuable at the time, but trading your very good starting CF for a manager instead of for actual prospects is hilarious. They barely got anything for the few good players they had in the first 5 years, then Friedman built a pennant winner by trading Toby Hall and Aubrey Huff.

  • @TheOGSticks11
    @TheOGSticks11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    Let's not forget one the teams top scouts quit when they told him they 'Had no use for a player' like Albert Pujols in '99/00. The scout quit.

    • @elijahechicagobearsboyd5734
      @elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      YIKES..

    • @ALTAIR2
      @ALTAIR2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      That's like when the Astros scout quit because the team didn't draft Derek Jeter

    • @TheOGSticks11
      @TheOGSticks11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ALTAIR2 that's also a very frustrating hindsight.

    • @tinypoolmodelshipyard
      @tinypoolmodelshipyard 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@TheOGSticks11 not really, the most overhyped player in mlb history.

    • @michaelschneider5938
      @michaelschneider5938 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@ALTAIR2I remember this story... The scout was Hal Newhouser who won a couple of MVPs so he knew baseball talent when he saw it.
      They ended up taking Phil Nevin #1 and the guy he told them to take went on to be one of the top 150 players in the history of baseball

  • @aron4117
    @aron4117 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    See the mildly grainy mid 00's Devil Ray's footage brings me back to my childhood in the Bay area.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I tried finding as much high-quality footage as possible, but the grainy stuff will always be part of that era's aesthetic

    • @Nick_Valentine2702
      @Nick_Valentine2702 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AndThatsBaseballit’s nostalgic

    • @r4v4g3r
      @r4v4g3r 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was 8 years old watching Orioles games with my parents in MD, so I saw lots of Devil Rays games too. Nostalgic 😊

    • @tinypoolmodelshipyard
      @tinypoolmodelshipyard 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same

  • @charliereffettstormchasing
    @charliereffettstormchasing 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +185

    Huge respect cancelling sponsorship with betterhelp

    • @miwo7408
      @miwo7408 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      whats wrong with betterhelp?

    • @jonathandalton34
      @jonathandalton34 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its a well known scam​. Most of the people they employ are not licensed@miwo7408

    • @Anime2077yt
      @Anime2077yt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@miwo7408they try to force Christianity on you eventually & their therapists aren’t truly that qualified.

    • @lukedoesbutter
      @lukedoesbutter 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Anime2077ytHundreds of dollars for a month of therapy is ridiculous. Also they have been credibly accused of selling user data.

    • @chrisdeleon3351
      @chrisdeleon3351 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Anime2077yti never heard of the pushing christianity stuff that’s wild

  • @rayge7838
    @rayge7838 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    Nash, Dukes, Franco....the Rays need to have some training on how to stay away from underage girls for their stars 😭😭😭

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Criminal organization

    • @PeterEBI
      @PeterEBI 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I know 😂

    • @matthewcostanza2674
      @matthewcostanza2674 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well...no training in the world would have made Dukes become a better person.

  • @TheGreatGhost1
    @TheGreatGhost1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    As a Red Sox fan, I always loved the Rays uniform designs. The old rays uniform colors and they’re original name the Tampa bay devil rays will always be badass and my favorite. Tbh I Hope they win a World Series one day.

    • @AnimefanDeCaro
      @AnimefanDeCaro 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I agree and I’m also a Red Sox fan as well. I’m pretty sure the rays win the World Series. And when it comes to playoffs like American League I rather root for rays more then Yankees Yuck.

    • @tillitsdone
      @tillitsdone 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The issue I have with them is that circus tent they call a ballpark. Batted balls hitting crap hanging from the roof. It's an embarrassment to the sport.

    • @Jlaps941
      @Jlaps941 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Rangers finally pulled it off last year so nothing is impossible 😂

    • @BK_718
      @BK_718 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mets fan here and I agree 💯 their OG uniforms are fire 🔥

  • @JonathanLit
    @JonathanLit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m proud of you for standing up to and rejecting the better help money. The whole thing is a scam and it shows your rock solid integrity. Instant like from me. Keep up the good work!

  • @ron4255
    @ron4255 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    As a Mariners fan i will always appreciate Nintendo’s owner for buying the team. Dude never even saw a Mariners game live. Hated flying but wanted to thank the city for being so supportive.

    • @Sly_Maverick_31
      @Sly_Maverick_31 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hell yeah, let's go M's!

    • @LSTNSCRFN
      @LSTNSCRFN 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hiroshi Yammauchi

    • @SportsFan838
      @SportsFan838 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So that must be the reason why the Mariners are popular in Japan?

    • @LSTNSCRFN
      @LSTNSCRFN 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SportsFan838 in a way, its actually brought the idea of bringing Japanese & Korean ball players to the majors

    • @SportsFan838
      @SportsFan838 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LSTNSCRFN That's why I could see multiple series of teams playing in East Asia in the future

  • @moronsaltable
    @moronsaltable 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Josh Hamilton went #1 overall by Tampa Bay
    Kyle Snyder went #7 overall by Royals
    Tampa Bay pitching coach=Kyle Snyder

  • @WhatHappenedtoBaseball
    @WhatHappenedtoBaseball 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I don't know how, but this was the first time it clicked for me that the Marlins won a World Series before the Devil Rays debuted

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      When I researched the original video, it shocked me that the DBacks won 100 in their second season. These expansion teams all had pathways to instant success.

    • @nyratk1
      @nyratk1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AndThatsBaseball Even the Rockies made the playoffs after 2 years

  • @ILoveMisty1985
    @ILoveMisty1985 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    The Devil Rays may have been terrible, but they sure seemed to have the number of one of the greatest pitchers out there. Randy Johnson has managed an ERA below 4.50 against 29 of the 30 Major League teams, the one exception being the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. His 5.43 ERA against the Devil Rays is more than a run higher than the team against whom he had the next highest ERA, and his 3-5 record against Tampa Bay is worse than against any other team. And it's not like the he faced them when they had their exorcism, his last start again the Devil Rays came in 2006 when they went 61-101. It's one of the most enduring mysteries in my years of studying the Big Unit's career.
    Anyways, thanks for the fun video.

    • @gaggledweasel2579
      @gaggledweasel2579 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting

    • @Realwaltersobchak
      @Realwaltersobchak 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Low number of starts towards the end of his career.. I don’t have to look at the stats to understand that.

    • @derpy.1
      @derpy.1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hmmm….could be the baseball gods giving them some type of leeway, I have a feeling once they have new ownership or a solid first direction sometime down the road, it will be there thing to take out HOF dominant pitchers in weird situations.
      Or it might be the shrooms talking right now, and it’s just a coincidence idk.

    • @Iamhungey
      @Iamhungey หลายเดือนก่อน

      How much of these were in his prime though? That's kind of like a backup lineman bragging about being able to block Lawrence Taylor in 1993.
      Full context is needed.

  • @dfoleyusa
    @dfoleyusa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think you did the right thing in ditching better help. I have a feeling given the high quality of your content it will look like a blip in the future. I expect this channel to grow quickly as your work here is outstanding. Graphics, clips, reference material is all A+.

  • @fortynights1513
    @fortynights1513 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    After seeing the whole video, I definitely would say that this one turned out a lot better than the older video.
    Way more engaging.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I've learned a lot since then

  • @kyleOWillFixIt
    @kyleOWillFixIt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Having a chronically low payroll definitely makes things hard on any franchise. But constantly wasting picks and development time on guys with serious off-field issues that destroy their careers definitely doesn't help. At least they got over that problem. Oh wait...

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The low payroll is part of the problem. It’s tough to be picky about talent when you’re playing with the small stack. Turning a blind eye to character concerns, injury concerns, etc. is how they field good teams, but also why they have these cases more than most.

  • @zhife310
    @zhife310 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    the thing that makes it the hardest to be a ray fan is the fact that you can’t get attached to players because they more than likely will be traded or won’t renew their contracts in less than 5 years.the one long term contract we give out happened to like children too

    • @kenw2225
      @kenw2225 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Marlins too. 1997 was the best moment of my life probably before turning 10yo. But they tore it down within months. I wasnt even a fan anymore in 2003, but did cheer for them vs yankees in ws. Rays need new stadium location and $ will improve via attendance

    • @BlackslooklikeHarambe
      @BlackslooklikeHarambe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You guys like them young in Florida apparently 😂

  • @richarddash6654
    @richarddash6654 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As a life long devil rays fan born and raised in Tampa you did a great job on the video bro! Loved seeing all that old footage!

  • @Samitien
    @Samitien 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Idk what else to say, could you talk about how Milwaukee went from a punching bag and missing the playoffs for 26 straight years to being a model organization that has found ways to win. As a Brewers fan I'd appreciate it. Thanks, loved the vid!

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I’ve LOVED some of the brewers teams in my lifetime, so I’d be open to this type of video.

  • @foramoreperfectamerica8490
    @foramoreperfectamerica8490 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The Rays have been my AL team since their inception when I was 10. I liked the bright colors of their og unis lol

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The OG unis are so nice. I bought the Wade Boggs Mitchell & Ness BP jersey cuz I was looking at them so much while editing this.

  • @ZJP
    @ZJP 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not a big baseball guy but this showed up in my recommended -- great stuff! Also, props to you for not taking the BH sponsorship. Really cool that you chose to listen to the fans. Will have to check out more of your stuff!

  • @rackstraw
    @rackstraw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Vince Naimoli...I remember the furniture store that leased space in the Trop, complete with price tags hanging from the furniture. George III had some petty feuds, but his with Naimoli was probably justified.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I didn’t mention that in the video, but reading about how he made the “luxury box” basically just a furniture store made me laugh

    • @rackstraw
      @rackstraw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@AndThatsBaseball I wonder how much furniture they sold. Who goes to the ballpark and thinks "You know what I really need today? A dresser!"

  • @slinky_malinki5330
    @slinky_malinki5330 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Would love to see a video on how they turned it around so quickly. From the worst team in 2007 to making it to the World Series in 2008, and becoming regular playoff contenders until the early 2010s, going through a "mid" stage when Kevin Cash cane on board, and then making the playoffs 5 years in a row. And all while having a bottom 3 payroll.
    Definitely gonna have to highlight the insanity of 2011 game 162 and rhe buildup to it.

    • @tjmc8846
      @tjmc8846 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Remember 162 like it was yesterday

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was a few years after Stuart Sternberg bought the team and initiated the team change from Devil Rays to Rays. 2008 was their first year as Rays.

  • @8stormy5
    @8stormy5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I didn't even know Tampa Bay had a baseball team until I'd started getting into watching baseball in 2019.
    I played little league in Orlando...

  • @bk_goatkim679
    @bk_goatkim679 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember your devil rays history videos. This rays content honestly is the best glad you did a newer version of it with more data

  • @MrLatrunks14
    @MrLatrunks14 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    They are basically the little bit more Successful version of Oakland A's Money ball. But they can never win the ring.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      If they keep making the playoffs at the rate they've done so in the last 15 years, they're bound to win some eventually

    • @MillerArant
      @MillerArant 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ask the Mariners

    • @ghostofyou9721
      @ghostofyou9721 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have a feeling they will at some point. Maybe not in my lifetime but they will.

  • @whereisspacebar2991
    @whereisspacebar2991 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I saw this video in my subscriptions but wanted to wait to sit back and enjoy it. Fantastic video, I've always been a sucker for the Rays.

  • @ReeseArtLee
    @ReeseArtLee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My grandpa took myself and my brother as kids to spring training Phillies games. THAT felt like baseball. I saw the Rays play once at Tropicana and its a terrible building for sports. It just feels... off?

  • @Godishim1
    @Godishim1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This an awesome documentary, shout out to u for making it! I’ve been a rays fan since day 1 and always find out so hard to believe how many times things have gone wrong from reading away Bobby Abreu, to Josh Hamilton never panning, to failed Vinny Castilla, Jose canseco, Greg Vaughn season, to somehow ending up in multiple World Series… truly been a crazy journey

  • @johngillenwalters7101
    @johngillenwalters7101 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The nostalgia your videos give me is a shot of joy. Thank you.

  • @sneakdisser5204
    @sneakdisser5204 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Aside from the many opinions i have regarding Rocco Baldelli as a 28 year old MN born and raised diehard twins fan, ignoring all that history and everything, This is a excellent piece of baseball content, the music and the tone and the vibe and everything about it seeps with passion and you should be proud of the video you created regardless of any of the context. You are an artist man! Well Done!!!!!!!

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed and I truly appreciate the kind words! I’m glad the effort isn’t going unnoticed.

  • @dabigdawg42042
    @dabigdawg42042 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video man. I was a big baseball fan in the 00's and this took me back and unlocked forgotten memories

  • @xavierjc94
    @xavierjc94 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    @20:08 the music is from some game I played in my childhood and I can’t remember lol. Has to be a Pokémon one

    • @hannig2010ify
      @hannig2010ify 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude I'm dying right now trying to figure it out.

    • @trobinson9342
      @trobinson9342 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's HeartGold/Soulsilver Dark Cave Theme

  • @CynicalSphere
    @CynicalSphere 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is that Sadgasm playing at 39:00 LMAO? Glad I found your channel this video was a great watch

  • @zach7193
    @zach7193 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Man, this is something. It's the Bad News Bears.

  • @bradmarepublic
    @bradmarepublic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Seeing Hamilton in the old "sleeveless" Renegades jersey is just a hit of nostalgia as a Hudson Valley local

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love finding rare footage like that

  • @booradley6832
    @booradley6832 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Josh Hamilton ABSOLUTELY had to go to somewhere else to make an impact. Being young with money and bad influences around him in Florida there's no way cocaine wasnt going to find its way to him. Its already pretty available in the rest of the country but especially there.

  • @ScubaFingSteve
    @ScubaFingSteve 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Much respect for turning down better help. Its not easy to turn down that money and I think its appropriate to plug yourself instead of a predatory company

  • @jopilot4126
    @jopilot4126 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great video didn’t know about Tampa wanted to draft mark tex and cutch

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Imagine those 2008-12 Rays teams with those two guys

    • @sethkinslow674
      @sethkinslow674 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can't imagine the pirates without mccutchen

  • @TropTop_24
    @TropTop_24 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rays fan here since childhood. You gained a subscriber. This video should take flight. Top notch work man. Also brought back a lot of (for better or for worse) childhood memories back.

  • @VACATETHE48
    @VACATETHE48 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm currently trying to imagine a Crawford, Hamilton, Zobrist OF for the 2008 Rays.
    Good grief. That's a dynasty core right there.

  • @STICKGUYMB
    @STICKGUYMB 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Having an outfield of Crawford, Baldelli, and Hamilton also batting 1-2-3 would've been legendary

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Could’ve easily been a 15 WAR per year outfield

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Baldelli (as a player) could never stay healthy and it took a long time for Josh Hamilton to become productive. At least Baldelli is a quality manager today with the Twins.

    • @Iamhungey
      @Iamhungey หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AEMoreira81 Yeah especially with that health condition he has that kept him from reaching his potential.

  • @Bc232klm
    @Bc232klm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Legend. Love your videos. Feels like home

  • @LaMostraVia
    @LaMostraVia 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the best and most in depth MLB docs on TH-cam 🏆🏆🏆

  • @kyleolson8977
    @kyleolson8977 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    On the checklist for starting the team in 1998, you forgot "creating awesome 3D TV graphics" as seen at 5:54.

  • @theheckler6891
    @theheckler6891 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Being a Rays fan, this video couldn’t have made me happier to get as much history in this vid. Much love 💙

  • @ZanraiKid
    @ZanraiKid 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a Phillies fan, this is a genuinely fascinating video. Being the opponent in the ‘08 World Series is one thing; giving us Bobby Abreu for a song is actually incredible.

  • @TB3SportsTalk
    @TB3SportsTalk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude! That video was amazing! That was such a good telling of the Rays story. Life long Rays fans and first day Rays fans should watch this

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate that, thanks for watching!

  • @DNSKansas
    @DNSKansas 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    12:25 Great catch by Gerald Williams, who threw the ball to second to complete a double play. The batter? Some guy named David Ortiz.

  • @chrisg334
    @chrisg334 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is crazy is they improved dramatically but still have next to no fan support. Every game is empty unless they play a team with a large fan base.

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Their major issue is stadium location. They have everything else going for them.

  • @jonathenbarfalomew7730
    @jonathenbarfalomew7730 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! Enjoyed it this morning while cleaning the garage

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ATB has gritty, hard working viewers!

  • @despiracy9151
    @despiracy9151 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I asked you 2 years ago and I am asking again. Would you please do the second decade? BTW. This is better than the first version and I thought that the first one was strong.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t think there’s as interesting of a story arc over the second decade. The team gets pretty boring and robotic. Not as many wacky stories to tell.

    • @despiracy9151
      @despiracy9151 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You do have a point because it becomes more of a numbers story. In the second decade if the Rays trade you one of their pitchers, there is something wrong with that pitcher. The Rays also had incredible luck with other teams cast aways like Fernando Rodney. There is also game 162. One of the most insane days in baseball history.

  • @thatoneoshawott5826
    @thatoneoshawott5826 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Welp, time to get the beer. This is going to be painful for me

  • @dustykh
    @dustykh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Rays have multiple pennants, and multiple division titles. How you can argue they are worse than the Rockies or Mariners is beyond me.

  • @hitchikerspie
    @hitchikerspie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brilliantly done, almost inspires me to make a video for my favourite team

  • @MalWave
    @MalWave 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember going to a Blue Jays game YEARS ago....maybe 2001-2002 or so. We sat near what I thought was a private box and started making fun of the Devil Rays as they proceeded to get spanked.
    I eventually turned around and saw a bunch of angry older gentlemen glaring at me.
    Our seats were in front of the box for membera of the Rays' management. Iirc the GM was in there 😂😂😂

  • @adamhustler3639
    @adamhustler3639 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Makes no sense to me to allow them to take guys from other teams just to trade them. Should had some rule where you had to hold them for at least a year or something

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      With mlb expansion expected within the next decade, I wonder how the format of the draft will change.

    • @LeanMrfuzzles
      @LeanMrfuzzles 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Teams have always been allowed to trade for players and immediately flip them. That happens in every North American sport.

    • @adamhustler3639
      @adamhustler3639 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @LeanMrfuzzles An expansion draft isn't a trade situation. We're talking about just taking a player from another team to fill your new teams roster, and then flipping him.

  • @matthicksxx
    @matthicksxx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow, very well put together video!

  • @Alpha-du4on
    @Alpha-du4on 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You always pick the best background instrumentals for your videos

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I try, so I’m glad you like them

  • @Andrew_John_28
    @Andrew_John_28 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I appreciate the tlou2 and gtaIV music featured throughout the video

  • @deprosport7254
    @deprosport7254 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a great video showcasing the history of the Rays, fantastic job!

  • @スプーニーバーガー-t8l
    @スプーニーバーガー-t8l 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    日本のタンパベイファンです。日本語版作って😂

  • @yeameat3463
    @yeameat3463 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a rays fan the first couple years were rough but recently it’s been getting a lot better only if stu would actually spend money 😢😢😢

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Stu has made great hires, but he's seriously limiting the org by not spending

    • @ToMaToEsGrOw
      @ToMaToEsGrOw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is. On a new stadium.

  • @Gofindnory
    @Gofindnory 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro I subscribed cause your music choices are literally the best

  • @sealeo5772
    @sealeo5772 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the third time in one of your videos you have shown that Tony Saunders injury and every time I have just paused and skipped to where it's over because it genuinely creeps me out.

  • @RandallFPS
    @RandallFPS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ayyy you posted that 22-4 game. Nomar's 29th birthday and my first Sox game.

  • @Zamoraxd
    @Zamoraxd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Jorge Cantú Mentioned 🗣🗣🗣

  • @dpglounge4900
    @dpglounge4900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do a video like this on one of the worst ran sports franchises in the Milwaukee Brewers been around since 1970 one world series appearance in 1982 and lost then 26 years without a playoff appearances and 10 total in the entire existence brutal

  • @williamg8269
    @williamg8269 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chicago White Sox: "Hold my beer"

  • @christophermsimon9956
    @christophermsimon9956 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I thought I was watching too much Drake Kendrick stuff and I was hallucinating lmao w the 6:16 in the background

  • @RobertoHernandez-eb5ms
    @RobertoHernandez-eb5ms 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Damn no mention of the great 1998 season Closer Hernandez had 43 saves for a god awful 69 win team.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was one of the team’s only good relievers in the early years. Probably should’ve written a couple lines about him, seeing as he was an all star

  • @ghostofyou9721
    @ghostofyou9721 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn't know they traded for Ben Zobrist who is a Cubs hero. I love the guy.

  • @yourwh0lefamily
    @yourwh0lefamily 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact that you have the song from pokemon crystals ice caves blew my freaking mind

  • @hectorolivas7122
    @hectorolivas7122 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    imagine drake wants to learn about the history of the rays and this video gives him flashbacks

    • @dr.cornwater2886
      @dr.cornwater2886 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🎶he a fan he a fan he a fan🎶

  • @ctcards2636
    @ctcards2636 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your videos. My one critique is when ya show... say lineup of the 04 Rays around the 27 min mark, its only on the screen for a sec. Please leave the stats you take the time to put up in the video, for a lil longer. Thats all i ask. Other than that i see perfection in these videos, you nail these. I am addicted. For sure :-) Thanks and please i hope you dont take my critique the wrong way. ;-)

  • @llbigwave
    @llbigwave 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I remember the Tampa Bay Double A’s.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Frank the Tank ahhh nickname

  • @wesjones565
    @wesjones565 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job! I’m not a Rays fan but I love baseball. This video had the right amount of stats and info to make it entertaining.

  • @kenw2225
    @kenw2225 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your acct blowing up. I think you had 3.54k subs when i subbed. Good work

  • @sneakdisser5204
    @sneakdisser5204 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    yea kid you got the voice and the editing and the talent you're gonna go far

  • @tonygonsolin8588
    @tonygonsolin8588 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love your videos mate

  • @matthewcostanza2674
    @matthewcostanza2674 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I worked in Orlando in Disney the year Price was drafted. They were BEGGING people to wear Tampa stuff at the draft. I had nothing else better to do. So I went. Fun but...weird that there were 2,000 people cosplaying as Rays fans.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think Sternberg was trying to drum up interest in the Orlando area at the time for leverage. I don't think anybody in Orlando cared.

    • @matthewcostanza2674
      @matthewcostanza2674 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AndThatsBaseball And still don't. Great vid. You got a new subscriber :).
      Look forward to seeing some of your back catalogue :).

  • @richardtherichard26
    @richardtherichard26 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    21:58 Record not withstanding devil rays is a bad ass name and the purple and green unis are some the best mlb unis ever

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can’t believe the OG unis only lasted 3 years

  • @achill69
    @achill69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice use of The All-Father at the end 👌🏾

  • @nicholassunderbruch7131
    @nicholassunderbruch7131 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been my favorite team all my life, that 2008 season was magical, people never talked about the Rays, but suddenly they were. Still do.

  • @sambub
    @sambub 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yo I really enjoyed the deep dive but mad respect for turning down the sponsorship and promoting yourself in its place. that is so cool and you got a sub from me. cheers and thanks, you really produce some excellent material!

  • @DarthPlagueisTheWise620
    @DarthPlagueisTheWise620 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Perna was talking about receiving all that backlash during a recent stream of his

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love Perna I felt awful for him reading those comments

  • @booradley6832
    @booradley6832 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2000 opening day payroll, orioles 4th in the league.
    I hate it when Baltimore fans say Angelos didnt do anything for the team. He didnt have a lot of success but that doesnt matter when measuring their personal dedication, only one team wins every year out of 32 giving everything to do it. He spent money on stars and then once the payrolls became astronomical he built the best farm system in baseball. He also broke the owners ability to present a united front in 1994 because he refused to side with them and bring in strike breakers, being both a labor leader and protecting Ripken's record. That actually takes a lot of integrity, as hard as that is to say about a lawyer.

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think Baltimore fans generally like Peter Angelos, but hate his children

  • @jacobthomas8598
    @jacobthomas8598 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    dan wheeler was my top tier coach down in clearwater fl hes a really nice guy who cared about his players

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For a 34th round pick to make the league as young as he did, he must be an incredibly hard worker, as well

  • @seanboy316
    @seanboy316 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He did earn this one with this video. Well done. You've got my subscription!

  • @aa222aaa
    @aa222aaa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Props for turning down better help. Made me subscribe.

  • @HangingGarden606
    @HangingGarden606 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    5:55 This is everything

  • @GeeEm1313
    @GeeEm1313 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hideo Nomo was on the D Rays? I remember luminaries such as Jason Tyner, Brent Abernathy, and Jared Sandberg. But Nomo?

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A ton of 90s vets had a minute with the d rays. Doc, Nomo, Denny Neagle and Robbie Alomar (spring training)

  • @SconnerStudios
    @SconnerStudios 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So many prospects with hall of fame level potential who turned out to be busts. The "best" I guess would be Aubrey Huff and Carl Crawford, but dozens of prospects from Delmon Young to BJ Upton ended up being nobodies when they looked like they were going to carry their team to the world series at a point. Oh, Scott Kazmir was pretty decent too, given the fact he was always on bad teams, so his stats are a little warped (like trying to compare Zack Greinke to Verlander)

  • @DolphinOfFire
    @DolphinOfFire 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You earned my sub and I'll be sharing with friends too!

  • @amandacarricato3487
    @amandacarricato3487 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact that the guy who gave up a home run to Bartolo Colon (James Shields) is one of the Devil Rays “better” draft picks speaks to how bad they were at drafting.

  • @nathanaellamb8647
    @nathanaellamb8647 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amazing video love your channel

  • @Crescens1080
    @Crescens1080 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a long long long time Rays fan this was a great look back at the poor years and poor decisions. Chuck Lamar was full of them, like that Ben Grieve trade... still my least favorite Ray by how little he cared.

  • @mistahswags
    @mistahswags 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:16 beat in the background is so elite