Just a heads up for those interested, Tim and I decided to have a short live stream for Patreon members in about an hour to discuss Ryzen 3 performance and a few other things. So if you're interested you can join us for $1 per month on Patreon, if not that's fine. Hope you enjoyed the video.
Do we a have a date for when these lovely little beuties will hit Australian shores? I am helping a friend do a cheap build and thought the 3100 or 3300 would be great for them.
It took over seven and a half minutes to get all the foreplay over with. Maybe you guys can shave a minute or two off of that. Besides that great video. Thank you.
When you get a chance could you please clock both the 3300x and 3100 to the speed and do some comparison performance tests to see how much the single/dual ccx topology actually effects ryzen. could you please also include the windows stock, ryzen balanced and the 1usmus custom power plans to get an idea of how the scheduler impacts ryzen?
Jesus, I was not expecting the 3300X to match the 7700K and beat my 2600... this makes me incredibly excited for Zen 3 which will have only one 8C-CCX per CCD.
Can you stop making stupid comments like these ? This is a comparaison between new product and old one. 10th gen intel is coming then you can make such comment
@@wildfireDZ it's their current generation. Why compare to a product that doesn't exist yet? Also Intel is rehashing the same product for the past 4 years with different names, so comparing with any of these is about the same, give or take a couple percentage points.
shitty as a marketing name it may be, this lineup of cpu's kind of drive the point home nooone was really going to buy a 12 or 16 core for gaming just because of the cache, these cpu's on the other hand make a bit of a better case for their game cache mumbo jumbo :P
@@idyllsend6481 If there was real competition in GPUs, a 5700XT wouldn't cost $400. Right now, it is a duopoly where both participants provide practically the same things at practically the same prices set much higher than total costs because their market has nowhere else to go. It is kind of the same for CPUs too, things are moving slower than they would if AMD and Intel had a credible third party competitor threatening their fat profit margins.
@@teardowndan5364 This is because there isn't a free market. Though we are educated to believe there is. Any competition will be undercut or purchased. This happens with all monopolies in the market. Fanboyism is the worst when it comes to tech. AMD and Intel work together from the top because if they didn't well Intel wouldn't really have any competition. Same with AMD and Nvidia. Intel could literally undersell AMD at anytime and could afford to. The problem is they would catch hell. This isn't like Amazon underselling another company forcing a buyout. This is a worldwide supplier AMD. The FTC is a joke and is a government owned and operated entity. All of these Taiwanese based companies sell the cheapest product available for an American made price. Most of western society has no idea how bad they are getting screwed by these Taiwanese based companies. They are all owned and operated (most of them) by the same owners. Gigabyte, MSI, Thermaltake, Zotac, Corsair, Biostar, Asus, EVGA, Sapphire, and the list goes on, are all the same products.. PCbs, transistors, chokes, vrms, and the rest of the components are all made by the same supply chain and factories with a different label with A VERY HIGH FAILURE rate. Westerners have no idea what they are being forced to buy when they purchase this cheap crap. The same with memory modules and power supplies. The cheapest overpriced garbage on this planet honestly. These motherboards, power supplies, memory modules, all should be literally half the price for which they ask for it. Video cards are overpriced by 50% as well. The 2080 Ti is the biggest scam I have ever seen in the field so far. It literally only costs Nvidia a couple of hundred U.S. dollars to manufacture the card like the 1080 Ti it's predecessor. Yet Nvidia is asking double for the asking price. I would like to see a law firm go after them for price gouging the consumer. I haven't seen them go after Intel yet so I imagine they wouldn't go after Nvidia for price fixing the market. However, they did go after the memory makers for this a year ago. I don't understand why no one goes after Intel and Nvidia for price fixing.
@James Smith Lets see if the rumors are true, if they are, 50% over 2080Ti is a LOT. And it may win the 3080Ti, but you know how GPU division is with AMD, the R9 had so much hype and did not win the 980Ti
Because those who bought 7th series can't buy anything better due to Intel locking mobos every fucking generation. Another reason to not ever get trapped in the Intel ecosystem.
Right! 4-5 years ago if you would've told me that AMD's CPU division would make a huge comeback as it did against Intel before their GPU side could catch up to Nvidia... I wouldn't have believed you. Now the question is rather if their GPU team can catch up and surpass Nvidia?
@@yetanotherlancer They probably won't surpass Nvidia, but they will trade blows with them. The 5700 XT proved that where it beat the 2060 Super comfortably for the same price, while still not far behind he 2070 Super for a lot less money. The big thing is they need to finally release a high end GPU for 4K that will at least be able to trade blows with their top tier 3080ti model (if they follow that name scheme)
It's amazing to see that a 100$ chip decisively outperforms a 350$( 2017 MSRP) i7 7700k in almost every benchmark imaginable. The difference in power of 3 years is easily the power of perfect competition!
@@andrewyoung4473 thats why I bought into ryzen when it first released. I have an x370 taichi and on the forums there are people using the 3900x on it running a stable oc.
Lol it is dead. Tech deals clearly shows in his video how much smoother the 3600. Do not buy a 4 core CPU unless you play league of legends and world of tanks etc
@@miniweeddeerz1820 Or you dont have the money to buy something like 3600 and in you country this CPS and up cost almost twice and the past generations still cost the same....So, this new are good options.
@@extreme123dz then a Ryzen 7 2700 overclocked on stock cooler to 3.9ghz. or just take a 1600af for a smoother experience, even with less 1% the gaming experience is actually smoother. And they are so close the extra cores will really pay off in future.
@@miniweeddeerz1820 One does not reach my country (and if it does it is more expensive), the other costs almost double and not to mention the MB. What I am going to do is that in "first world" countries, especially the USA, things get very easy, but in other "second or third world" countries, not without mentioning that my basic salary is rubbish when with what living in a couple should be at least $800... (and in other countries it is worse even when the minimum basic salary does not exceed even $ 100 when with what should be lived would be $300....) In my case I have no problems since I still enjoy my i7 3770 (in that time my first PC and i wanted first for Digital Art/Video Editing, you know being a graphic designer and next Gaming), but I have friends who literally have CPU garbage and cannot make that jump because of how expensive they are, I hope that if these AMD come to my country, they will not cost a Fucking eye and at most cost 50% more than it should cost (Iva, Customs, that infamous 30% that stores take away or if you buy online / someone out of store still gets double for a very good search engine that be, etc). PD: hope the 4000 series and the big Navi will be realy good (but still not believe in leaks and Hype are a bad thing for me) so i can finaly jump for a new upgrade.
@@gamamew True, but the idea is more in line with "finally, two same core, same thread CPUs which differ significantly in performance, and where it makes sense to get the higher price one".
ＡＭＤ be like: Lisa Su "Fam lets compete againts ourself because intel is sinking at their own lake...... launch the 3100 and 3300X" ＡＭＤ employee : say no more
@@Spiggle. i think you are severely underestimating kids ... those that are into tech at this level are "exposed" enough already xD so please stop being puritan Ahole because 12 year olds these days have seen more porn than you did when you were 16 ...
@@Spiggle. Are you really comparing my making a joke in the TH-cam comments to exposing children to porn? The fact that your mind went there says a lot more about you than me.
Am I the only one who is amazed by the 3400G? It's a Zen+ 4-core CPU and holds up pretty well against the 1600 and the 3100. I know it costs more because it's an APU but still impress me.
@@WamblyHades This year should be the last year for current gen motherboards anyways. Current vega apu can handle 720p gaming no problem, so as long as rdna can provide 1080p casual gaming it would be a great hit. With ddr5 I would hope for at least rx570 performance.
@@haonanzhang6759 I would actually expect RX 5500 XT performance. Remember that 7nm trassitors is half the size need of Vega, so double the cores = 1408, similar to the 5500 XT. That would be awesome.
@@leopicard7373 I wholeheartedly agree with you. Being disrespectful to consumers for no reason other than owning a product is not ok. Informative conversations benefit everyone but being disrespectful makes you look like a joke, it prevents people who may not share your views from taking you seriously and is overall pointless really.
Single thread performance under 5Ghz under 125Watt invalidated, multi threaded performance under 125Watt invalidated. Also everything name starts with R and have Z in it invalidated
23:55 This is just the official support; since I've seen zen 2 Processors run on A320 boadrs just fine (even making use of PBO), I think that Ryzen 4000 will run on 400 series chipsets (someone approved this lately) and probably even 300 series chipsets. AMD just wants you to buy an new motherboard every two years just like INTEL customers do, so the motherboard vendors don't get mad at them.
I really love how much progress Ryzen and AMd have made in CPUs. My 7700K is a low range chip now, as you would expect from basically three years of development, but I gotta say, if you bought say a 2600K back in 2011 and compared it to a 4790K, not much progress had been made and certainly it was basically on par with an i5-4690K. How times have changed. Stellar review as always Steve!
Totally agree. i've had 2nd gen, 4th gen and 7th gen intel core-i7 cpu's. the only advancement intel has done in 8th+ gen core i's is the boost clock speeds. 7th gen and previous, the boost was only what, 300-400mhz. any 8 and later gen core can easilly boost +1.2Ghz and sustain it for longer. that makes a huge difference in games and light workloads. add the small benefits of faster ram and that's it. amd on the other hand has made real advancements in a harder period of time and they deserve credit and some of my money.
So a cpu worse than a 2 years old r5 2600 with 6/12 threads and for the same money, or even worse than a cpu launched this year with the same numer of threads but for even less is something interesting to You to inevest your time in then I can only call you an amd sheep sir.
Thank you! Watched a number of videos on this CPU and yours has the best graphs and also you seem the only one with matched core speed comparison! Great job as always :)
Archmage Heh! When people consider 3950x as middle range, it makes me smile :) But yeah... amd b550 will gonna be hard part to swallow to Intel... it has same features as Intel highend, even better...
"Ryzen 3, casualty reports have you listed as-" "Yes, well news of my death has been greatly exaggerated. I only wish the same could be said for team blue"
@@geepsu666 Well, according to the graph, 3000 series chips don't work in b350 and x370, and we know that isn't true, so maybe it's up to the manufacturers.
Don't spread misinformation, AMD might choose to release a BIOS update to allow b450 motherboards to run the new CPU, this isn't new to us :) Edit: The X570 is for enthusiast high end builds, they can't possibly let these budget picks run exclusively on the wrong category.
Omg... You can't just drop a bombshell like that at the end and leave us thinking WTF. I think most people were expecting support :-( Can't wait for a follow-up to discuss why.
Man, AMD keeps surprising, performance is stronger than expected! Glad to see more options for budget gamers, since the 1600 AF is being overpriced by retailers
whole bunch of 3100 and 3300x reviews just popped up in my feed, and I knew exactly which one to click on first :D extremely thorough and helpful as always!
Tbh Amd killed R5 3600 in a way by 3300x. I'm happy though( a bit cz of own a 3600 ) EDIT: seeing all the comments , i need to clear out that yes 3600 is futureproof more than 3300x. Only saying like my heart fell when i saw the Single core value more of 3300x than 3600. At that point i got to know this cpu will be on par of 3600. The MAIN TAKEAWAY is that now its better to get a 3300x for regular people like those who normally browse or want solid gaming at great value rather 3500 . For anyone doing anything more than this(even slightest bit of content creation, 3600 will win anyday.. i will always be proud of my 3600 and its baby 2200g. Both are my children.
Best testing and analysis on TH-cam. Thanks for showing what these $100 chips can do. I'm sure lots of budget rigs will be built with these chips. I personally live near a microcenter, so the 3600 is my choice for a budget chip, but only because I can pick one up for about $150.
Ryzen 3 3300X chewing on the heels of the Ryzen 5 1600 and 2600 in productivity? And similar or better than Ryzen 7 2700X in gaming? This is literally a killer CPU in value
Not similar. The 8 core CPUs obviosuly kill it in multicore and much much smoother irl games. The frame pacing on an 8 core is so much smoother than a 3300x
@@haonanzhang6759 well if you go to gamers nexus review the 3300x and 3100, because of their lack of cores and threads have much more erratic frametimes than even a 1600af. This means that the game will be smoother on the 1600af than say a 3300x, if the cores are being utilised which they are in most games these days, so the 1600af being smoother is a better gaming experience. The 2700x Vs 3600 is only a 33% core increase so the difference is smaller while the 3100/3300x Vs a 6 core cpu is 50% core difference so it matters more there.
I can see why they held off doing this until Intel pushed them to release this product line: in many instances, the 3300X is a reasonable competitor to even the 3600--especially in gaming. It's a good reminder that most software still hasn't scaled beyond four cores and that frequency and cache are still the major indicators of regular consumer platform performance. Given that this part will definitely not compete against the higher range of Intel, I thought this was a pretty good spread, given your time budget. Looking forward to your mega-graphs when the extra data gets added. Great video as always.
@@kian8382 I mean, AMD's slide said no, so I'm gonna believe them rather than blind optimism. It will be nice if they do support it, but don't make upgrade plans based on it happening.
@Anthony Bazalar just bought a 3600x . and i thought I could upgrade in a 3-4 years. seems the only way now is the ryzen 9 series. which demands great cooling and psu.
When ryzen 3000 release, AMD said it won't support B350 and X370 but at end it did support R5 and R7. They are now saying that B450 and X470 won't support Ryzen 4000 because it will not be a full support and it is up to motherboard manufacture
The Ryzen 5 3600 is available for $160 in the US at stores like Microcenter. I managed to buy my R5 2600 for $100 late last year when the 1600 AF couldn't be found. A couple of months ago the 2600X was available for $110 but it has since gone up in price by 20 USD.
Would be great to some GPU scaling results between 1600af/3100/3300x. Probably need a high end gpu like 2070s or more to see any real difference between them. Would be interesting to see results with 1660s and lower as most will be looking at GPUs below 250 price point to go with these budget chips. My guess would be they would be very close within 5%.
AMD was slapping Intel around in the Low-end even before. The Ryzen 5 1600, not even AF, the 2600, the 3200G, 3400G, 3000G are *all* superior to their price competitors.
Warm Soft Kitty a 7700K is around ~$300 on eBay (watch Linus’ Video, as well as Gamers Nexus’ video), dont be Ignorant. We get it you are an Intel Fanboy.
I upgraded my main machine last year, I had a core I5 3770k overclocked and wanted to get a B450 tomahawk and a Ryzen 3600, however, the tomahawk and the R5 3600 were out of stock everywhere and I had the money burning my pocket so I bought an Asus X570 based on your recommendation and a R5 2600 as a placeholder for a proper CPU, all for $200 with a Newegg promotion code (sick discount, I still can't believe it). And I have to say I'm glad I did, I got the newer X570 platform and the 2600 is performing amazing so far, will wait for Ryzen 4000 and upgrade to a Ryzen 7 4800X or whatever the name will be for a comparable part and my machine will be unstoppable!!!!
Hey Steve, Since the 3100X and 3300X CPUs are ultra budget options, can you pair them up with like a 1650 Super, 5500XT or a 1660 Super gpu at the high end to get a grasp of a more realistic scenario.
Thanks for the video this presents an interesting proposition for those looking to build soon. Given as you said in the end of the video that if you want to upgrade further this cpu later if you have a 400 series motherboard it would seem that you may be better off waiting until the 550 boards are released. Then again as the Zen 4000 series cpu's will not support DDR5 any motherboard you buy in the next probably 2 years will mean you will likely need a 600 or maybe 700 series motherboard to run a Z 5000 CPU assuming it supports DDR5. This I think then means once Zen 5000 is out that will probably mean the start of the AM5 era. So for me I am thinking now it is at least better to wait until you can get a B550 motherboard if you are considering either of these or maybe the 3600(X) if not the next-gen parts later this year. If I did buy a 3300X and a B550 I hope that we don't get too bad of a deal here in Australia on them given how much our dollar is changing I fear we likely will as always.
@@StiggyAzalea What's important is that AMD does open support if possible. Intel closes support if possible. People say you can run 8th and 9th gen intel on first gen 1151 if you mod the bios. As always, individual support is per vendor. Hopefully you would be able to add one yourself if your vendor doesn't.
Before everyone loses their minds over the Zen 3 backwards compatibility - remember that 3rd gen/Zen 2 doesn't officially support the 300-series either, yet we've seen 300-series boards functioning perfectly fine with 3rd gen. "Doesn't support" and "doesn't work" are two very different phrases, right now we only know that the first one applies
Thank you so much! My 3300x bundle is coming soon! Only way to get it in the UK is via a mobo bundle... hope it speeds up emulators for my son! And I can sell my old xeon rig! Goodbye techyescity, hello Hardwareunboxed :)
23:52 i knew it...T_T...i also heard 1 out of 7 ryzen 4000s cpu needs new tracing only sloved on b550s cause x570 was already out...hope it's not true...and amd took some codes from 1 of the motherboard manufacturer
the official amd response is that only B5XX chipsets will support ryzen 4000 cpu's. it's was known for some time that b3xx/b4xx will be supported until 2020.
Recommendation for games to test: Why not include widely played games like: - Apex Legends - Fortnite - Valorant - New CoD - Minecraft I know there's only so much games you can test but I would highly suggest using a few of the above in the list since they're much more widely played than some of the games in the list.
@@GameBacardi that's a false bold claim because Steve himself and many other youtubers HAVE benchmarked these games. They have replay features and regardless of a few fluctuations, if you go on the same map, and follow same routes, it'll still give a very rough idea. Are are you implying that all the multiplayer game benchmarked on TH-cam are fabricated lies because it just CAN'T be done?
@@ivanbrasla when you set the render distance to far, Minecraft can be a bitch to run smoothly. Also, now there's an RTX version available of Minecraft so it also makes sense to include that for those with RTX graphics cards.
@Warm Soft Kitty just a few years ago Intel accounted for 99.99% of cpu sales so that's a huge drop in just a couple of years, no surprise though is it really when amd is outselling Intel in cpu sales.
@Warm Soft Kitty Because AMD used to have less then 5 % of the market you moron. In a few years they managed to get more then 20% of maket share back which Impressive. Besides AMD sells much more CPU that Intel nowdays on the diy market
Noup... Intel still sell more cpus than AMD does. Amd can have cpus that Are douple the speed of Intel and half the price and still Intel sell more! Newer underestimate how much people trust Intel inside sticker...
@@haukionkannel That's because you consider also the laptop market. AMD is almost non existent in that market and now they have released actual better product than Intel. It will take time to take that market share from Intel. On the DIY on the other hand AMD sells triple the cpu and they have over 20% share. Few years ago they less than 5% on diy market
How soon will the video about the Zen 3 processors and 500 boards be available? I just hope this isn't like what the blue team had done with their new LGA 1200.
That graph about AM4 socket and CPU support doesn't seem to show what you're saying, Steve. It says no support for Matisse on 300 chipsets, but Matisse works fine on B350 and X370 boards with BIOS updates. I think there are even A320 boards with Zen 2 support. It seems to me that it's indicating which motherboards will feature support out of the box. If so, that makes sense given the comments on how the BIOS runs out of space. You'd have to delete the old files and install new ones as replacement to support newer CPUs. If so, then there's still hope that I'll be able to run Vermeer on my B350 board. Fingers crossed! If so, then I won't have to make the jump to DDR5 for the initial, expensive years.
Well, I have an i7 7700k system but I like this video because the 3300X is a better chip. I've had a couple of years good use from the 7700k so no regrets, and anyway AMD had nothing to beat it at the time. The only thing I can say with any certainty is that my next build is unlikely to be Intel based.
There was a 7700k somewhere below the €130 CPU if you want to still call that high end. They are still charging high-end prices for that part at least.
Just a heads up for those interested, Tim and I decided to have a short live stream for Patreon members in about an hour to discuss Ryzen 3 performance and a few other things. So if you're interested you can join us for $1 per month on Patreon, if not that's fine. Hope you enjoyed the video.
Do we a have a date for when these lovely little beuties will hit Australian shores? I am helping a friend do a cheap build and thought the 3100 or 3300 would be great for them.
the 9900k is 3 times the CPU you tested here and you refuse to show it. Typical.
7:25 ;)
It took over seven and a half minutes to get all the foreplay over with. Maybe you guys can shave a minute or two off of that. Besides that great video. Thank you.
Sorry I can't pay I have no money
When you get a chance could you please clock both the 3300x and 3100 to the speed and do some comparison performance tests to see how much the single/dual ccx topology actually effects ryzen. could you please also include the windows stock, ryzen balanced and the 1usmus custom power plans to get an idea of how the scheduler impacts ryzen?
Jesus, I was not expecting the 3300X to match the 7700K and beat my 2600... this makes me incredibly excited for Zen 3 which will have only one 8C-CCX per CCD.
me too :') r5 2600 beaten by 3300x :') feel pain but yeah already bought XD
I know, When Ryzen 4000 comes out I might upgrade my 2600x to a 4300x
Then I'm upgrading my 2700x
@@conorkehoe589 You wont be able to, unless you have an B550 or X570 motherboard. Or will you be buying a new motherboard as well bud?
Me too, but I won't upgrade my 1600X yet. More than acceptable performance for casual gaming and coding.
So what ur saying is Amd budget cpu is beating intels mid range....this is just destruction
No
Amd is beating last to last years flagships.
1 mainstream flagship, 1 mid-range. Yeah. This is why competition is good.
Can you stop making stupid comments like these ? This is a comparaison between new product and old one. 10th gen intel is coming then you can make such comment
AMD even beat their own mid range Zen2 CPU lineup in some games.
*The power of monolithic design*
@@wildfireDZ it's their current generation. Why compare to a product that doesn't exist yet? Also Intel is rehashing the same product for the past 4 years with different names, so comparing with any of these is about the same, give or take a couple percentage points.
Intel: The fastest CPUs need high frequency
AMD: Ever heard of L3 cache
G A M E C A C H E ™
@@SineCordis Big Brain Time
Amd marketing team love the gaming cache
shitty as a marketing name it may be, this lineup of cpu's kind of drive the point home
nooone was really going to buy a 12 or 16 core for gaming just because of the cache, these cpu's on the other hand make a bit of a better case for their game cache mumbo jumbo :P
@@dutchdykefinger and yet they sold a lot of that mumbo jumbo 12core and most of em use it for gamming especially here in asia
AMD is beating Intel to death non stop. I'm glad the era of 4C/4T shit is over, with overpriced chips above 200€.
A loooooooong wait...I got real annoyed by the time Haswell came around, long before Ryzen was even a thing
Remember when 10 cores cost about $1000?
Yeah, I'd be annoyed if I'm one of the people who bought them.
@@wisdoom9153 thats why u dont waste thousands of dollars on a build.
1200 AF that beats 6600K is 50$ new... RIP Intel
consumer : finish him . AMD : FATALITY , intel 7th gen is dead.
At this point they are just doing this to make fun of intel
The competition is only with Nvidia.
@@idyllsend6481 If there was real competition in GPUs, a 5700XT wouldn't cost $400. Right now, it is a duopoly where both participants provide practically the same things at practically the same prices set much higher than total costs because their market has nowhere else to go. It is kind of the same for CPUs too, things are moving slower than they would if AMD and Intel had a credible third party competitor threatening their fat profit margins.
@@teardowndan5364 This is because there isn't a free market. Though we are educated to believe there is. Any competition will be undercut or purchased. This happens with all monopolies in the market. Fanboyism is the worst when it comes to tech. AMD and Intel work together from the top because if they didn't well Intel wouldn't really have any competition. Same with AMD and Nvidia. Intel could literally undersell AMD at anytime and could afford to. The problem is they would catch hell. This isn't like Amazon underselling another company forcing a buyout. This is a worldwide supplier AMD. The FTC is a joke and is a government owned and operated entity. All of these Taiwanese based companies sell the cheapest product available for an American made price. Most of western society has no idea how bad they are getting screwed by these Taiwanese based companies. They are all owned and operated (most of them) by the same owners. Gigabyte, MSI, Thermaltake, Zotac, Corsair, Biostar, Asus, EVGA, Sapphire, and the list goes on, are all the same products.. PCbs, transistors, chokes, vrms, and the rest of the components are all made by the same supply chain and factories with a different label with A VERY HIGH FAILURE rate. Westerners have no idea what they are being forced to buy when they purchase this cheap crap. The same with memory modules and power supplies. The cheapest overpriced garbage on this planet honestly. These motherboards, power supplies, memory modules, all should be literally half the price for which they ask for it. Video cards are overpriced by 50% as well. The 2080 Ti is the biggest scam I have ever seen in the field so far. It literally only costs Nvidia a couple of hundred U.S. dollars to manufacture the card like the 1080 Ti it's predecessor. Yet Nvidia is asking double for the asking price. I would like to see a law firm go after them for price gouging the consumer. I haven't seen them go after Intel yet so I imagine they wouldn't go after Nvidia for price fixing the market. However, they did go after the memory makers for this a year ago. I don't understand why no one goes after Intel and Nvidia for price fixing.
@James Smith Lets see if the rumors are true, if they are, 50% over 2080Ti is a LOT.
And it may win the 3080Ti, but you know how GPU division is with AMD, the R9 had so much hype and did not win the 980Ti
@James Smith If it did, which it likely will after Big Navi launches, it would be priced about the same too.
When Intel sucks so much AMD try to beat themselves. I love it!
I'm impressed that the 3300x on only 4 cores beats the 2700x on 8 cores in Battlefield 5 and some other games.
@@citizenguy That single core perf helps alot
In the meantime i7700k for 350$ on ebay ehehehe.
Because those who bought 7th series can't buy anything better due to Intel locking mobos every fucking generation. Another reason to not ever get trapped in the Intel ecosystem.
@@molenini exactly thats why thier cpus/mobos stuck at op price
only fools will buy a used i7700k now
@@seebauong9593 Don't underestimate how many fools exist.
@@molenini You can literally buy a 3300X, a motherboard for it and an aftermarket cooler for the cost of a used 7700k alone.
Little Ryzen > Big Navi
lol good one jarrod
Yeah, much easier to recommend Ryzen CPU then a Navi GPU, hopefully AMD can compete with Nvidia with next RDNA.
Right! 4-5 years ago if you would've told me that AMD's CPU division would make a huge comeback as it did against Intel before their GPU side could catch up to Nvidia... I wouldn't have believed you. Now the question is rather if their GPU team can catch up and surpass Nvidia?
@@yetanotherlancer They probably won't surpass Nvidia, but they will trade blows with them. The 5700 XT proved that where it beat the 2060 Super comfortably for the same price, while still not far behind he 2070 Super for a lot less money.
The big thing is they need to finally release a high end GPU for 4K that will at least be able to trade blows with their top tier 3080ti model (if they follow that name scheme)
Well this comment didn't age well lol.
It's amazing to see that a 100$ chip decisively outperforms a 350$( 2017 MSRP) i7 7700k in almost every benchmark imaginable. The difference in power of 3 years is easily the power of perfect competition!
Ragib Morshed and if you bought a ryzen 1st gen you can drop in a 3rd gen with a bios update. Intel meanwhile...
The 3300x is 3x the value!!
i7-7700K is still 250-350USD used on EBay
@@andrewyoung4473 thats why I bought into ryzen when it first released. I have an x370 taichi and on the forums there are people using the 3900x on it running a stable oc.
Honestly it's simply sad as we are amazed by ryzen cpus as it indicates that we've been fucked for quite a while.
everyone: 4 cores are dead
4 cores: Hold my cache
Lol it is dead. Tech deals clearly shows in his video how much smoother the 3600. Do not buy a 4 core CPU unless you play league of legends and world of tanks etc
@@miniweeddeerz1820 Or you dont have the money to buy something like 3600 and in you country this CPS and up cost almost twice and the past generations still cost the same....So, this new are good options.
@@extreme123dz then a Ryzen 7 2700 overclocked on stock cooler to 3.9ghz. or just take a 1600af for a smoother experience, even with less 1% the gaming experience is actually smoother. And they are so close the extra cores will really pay off in future.
You've got it wrong. It was 4 threads and judging by the benchmarks they're hardly viable indeed apart for the most budget platforms.
@@miniweeddeerz1820 One does not reach my country (and if it does it is more expensive), the other costs almost double and not to mention the MB.
What I am going to do is that in "first world" countries, especially the USA, things get very easy, but in other "second or third world" countries, not without mentioning that my basic salary is rubbish when with what living in a couple should be at least $800... (and in other countries it is worse even when the minimum basic salary does not exceed even $ 100 when with what should be lived would be $300....)
In my case I have no problems since I still enjoy my i7 3770 (in that time my first PC and i wanted first for Digital Art/Video Editing, you know being a graphic designer and next Gaming), but I have friends who literally have CPU garbage and cannot make that jump because of how expensive they are, I hope that if these AMD come to my country, they will not cost a Fucking eye and at most cost 50% more than it should cost (Iva, Customs, that infamous 30% that stores take away or if you buy online / someone out of store still gets double for a very good search engine that be, etc).
PD: hope the 4000 series and the big Navi will be realy good (but still not believe in leaks and Hype are a bad thing for me) so i can finaly jump for a new upgrade.
Every TH-camr : Intel is Dead
Intel : Quickly released 10th gen
Ryzen : *I'm coming, You won't survive*
I picked this video out of the notification storm.
Same
I picked them all
Why not watch them all? You get the better overall picture.
@Todd Zino
Can’t watch them all at once. 😉
@@goodyKoeln sure I can. I just load them all up in tabs and hit play. I just come back after eating
13:43 A minor correction: the game you're testing is Gears Tactics. Gears 5: Operation 3 is what they titled a content patch to the Gears 5 base game.
I'd assume they're clarifying version
The only Ryzen CPU where the X actually matters lol
To say that we would need AMD releasing a R3 3300 to compare
@@gamamew True, but the idea is more in line with "finally, two same core, same thread CPUs which differ significantly in performance, and where it makes sense to get the higher price one".
@@gamamew just check the 3600 against the 3600X and you'll know what he's talking about
Me: Zen 2 Ryzen 3 is not going to be that big a deal.
AMD: Are you sure about that?
AMD: Who decided that?
@@riven4121 LOL
@@riven4121 * *huge crowd cheering at a distance* *
ＡＭＤ be like:
Lisa Su "Fam lets compete againts ourself because intel is sinking at their own lake...... launch the 3100 and 3300X"
ＡＭＤ employee : say no more
Perfect.
Perfect.
Perfect
Release The Kraken!
this is first time my comment get 130+ like
thankyou guys you're awesome
Love the bukake of tech tubers in my sub box upon an embargo lift.
Not really funny when you get so many morons exposing kids to filthy stuff though is it.. makes me question the maturity of most people on YT
@@Spiggle. i think you are severely underestimating kids ... those that are into tech at this level are "exposed" enough already xD so please stop being puritan Ahole because 12 year olds these days have seen more porn than you did when you were 16 ...
@@Spiggle. Are you really comparing my making a joke in the TH-cam comments to exposing children to porn? The fact that your mind went there says a lot more about you than me.
@@Spiggle. ok boomer
Spray that Linus Juice all over me baby!
Am I the only one who is amazed by the 3400G? It's a Zen+ 4-core CPU and holds up pretty well against the 1600 and the 3100. I know it costs more because it's an APU but still impress me.
On my country where graphics cards are very expensive, I bought this processor so I'll be able to use my PC just in case my GPU fails.
4400g could be something to rule the OEM market completely if they can make navi based apu possible.
@@haonanzhang6759 I dunno man. Right now iGPUs are bottlenecked by memory. And would say we could see some nice RDNA iGPUs when DDR5 is out.
@@WamblyHades This year should be the last year for current gen motherboards anyways. Current vega apu can handle 720p gaming no problem, so as long as rdna can provide 1080p casual gaming it would be a great hit. With ddr5 I would hope for at least rx570 performance.
@@haonanzhang6759 I would actually expect RX 5500 XT performance. Remember that 7nm trassitors is half the size need of Vega, so double the cores = 1408, similar to the 5500 XT. That would be awesome.
its about time they dropped some low end ryzen 3000. shame they did not stick their fingers up to intel and give the processor 6 cores and 12 threads
"Chill out Intel fans!" - [not easy when their CPUs are hotter than the sun]
Speak out and remove all doubt! How the turntables
It must hurt alot right now to own an Intel processor.
Not easy with their box “cooler”
not the ones used in this video, i mean the 9100f uses 40 watts maxed out
@@leopicard7373 I wholeheartedly agree with you. Being disrespectful to consumers for no reason other than owning a product is not ok. Informative conversations benefit everyone but being disrespectful makes you look like a joke, it prevents people who may not share your views from taking you seriously and is overall pointless really.
Wonder how Userbenchmark is spinning this now in Intels favor. :)
Single thread performance under 5Ghz under 125Watt invalidated, multi threaded performance under 125Watt invalidated. Also everything name starts with R and have Z in it invalidated
@@MrWillypanda88 Sounds legit AF.
@UserShillmark 😁🤣
Was recommended this channel over Linus!! Way to go. Keep going my Aussie friends!
It’s a shame coronavirus is going on, I’d love to attend Intel’s funeral
I have seen this comment on Linus's video
*Astronomia intensifies*
You will have enough time to watch them turn to compost.
In what sense? because certainly not in financial terms.
unoriginal
23:55
This is just the official support; since I've seen zen 2 Processors run on A320 boadrs just fine (even making use of PBO), I think that Ryzen 4000 will run on 400 series chipsets (someone approved this lately) and probably even 300 series chipsets.
AMD just wants you to buy an new motherboard every two years just like INTEL customers do, so the motherboard vendors don't get mad at them.
I'm glad that you include now Davinci Resolve, it's a free and very efficient tool :)
I really love how much progress Ryzen and AMd have made in CPUs. My 7700K is a low range chip now, as you would expect from basically three years of development, but I gotta say, if you bought say a 2600K back in 2011 and compared it to a 4790K, not much progress had been made and certainly it was basically on par with an i5-4690K. How times have changed. Stellar review as always Steve!
Totally agree. i've had 2nd gen, 4th gen and 7th gen intel core-i7 cpu's. the only advancement intel has done in 8th+ gen core i's is the boost clock speeds. 7th gen and previous, the boost was only what, 300-400mhz. any 8 and later gen core can easilly boost +1.2Ghz and sustain it for longer. that makes a huge difference in games and light workloads. add the small benefits of faster ram and that's it. amd on the other hand has made real advancements in a harder period of time and they deserve credit and some of my money.
I feel bad fo my Dad, paid full price for the 7700k only a couple of years ago.
Bought 7700k @350usd early 2017. It was the best processor at that time and you dont have a choice anyway.
Brought QHQG (i7 6700t @ 3.9ghz) for 80$ two years ago.Great deal,it perform similar to i7 7700k in games.,
If he was gaming until today that money wasn't an entire waste. I know of no one who would buy a 7700k just for browsing the web
@@saulgoodman8823 that is true, we've had hundreds of games together.
not just him son not just him
love this ryzen 3, but is it worth to wait for the ryzen 3 4000?
Do you need a cpu now? Buy now. Can you wait? Wait. Simple
4th gen is obviously gonna be better. But if you dont have time the 3300x is insane.
Ryzen 4000 won't release until next year i think.
@@md.iftekharhossainrifat2381 no.Fall 2020.
Ryzen 4000 will come late this year, but you should Not expect the Ryzen 3 tier to be Launcher right away. That is still months and months away
AMD: *launches 3100 and 3300X*
Me, an R5 1600 owner: *I'm in danger*
Yeah, but we are still fine with the 1600. I play with 60-75FPS, so i will upgrade only next year when the ryzen 4000 will be cheaper and more stable.
R5 2600 owner here : "heavy breathing"
nah, they're still better for productivity
Kotaro Jujo They’re actually not. 3300X kills it despite 4c/8t
@@dr.woozie7500 Still better then the ones who paid 350$ for the 7700k tho.
Quarantine: get bored to death
Hardware Unboxed: not on my watch
unlimited benchmark works
So a cpu worse than a 2 years old r5 2600 with 6/12 threads and for the same money, or even worse than a cpu launched this year with the same numer of threads but for even less is something interesting to You to inevest your time in then I can only call you an amd sheep sir.
@@combatantezoteric2965 your comment make no sense....
Thank you! Watched a number of videos on this CPU and yours has the best graphs and also you seem the only one with matched core speed comparison! Great job as always :)
PSA: Some high-end B550 has confirmed it can handle 3950X, so long live mid-range.
Archmage Heh! When people consider 3950x as middle range, it makes me smile :)
But yeah... amd b550 will gonna be hard part to swallow to Intel... it has same features as Intel highend, even better...
MSI B550 Tomahawk Max per chance? ;)
@@haukionkannel i think he's pointing about the motherboard.. b550 is a mid-range xD
not 3950x cpu
Some b450 boards can handle 3950X. Its not about the chipset, but mostly the vrm.
thanx for including code compilation results i think many of us would appreciate it
PC community: I thought you were dead
Quad cores: My death was extremely... exaggerated
"Rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated"
No one was talking about 4 core CPUs, instead it's been always about 4 threaded ones.
"Ryzen 3, casualty reports have you listed as-"
"Yes, well news of my death has been greatly exaggerated. I only wish the same could be said for team blue"
Really appreciate the shear amount of effort put in. No techtuber puts out these many parts on benchmarks. Thank you.
Glad i bought an x570 board last year, ready for Zen 3! I imagine there's a few annoyed people out there who have B450 boards tho.
@@geepsu666 Well, according to the graph, 3000 series chips don't work in b350 and x370, and we know that isn't true, so maybe it's up to the manufacturers.
@@nicosanchez1980 they are saying it won't work, because it doesn't support ryzen 9 and also some mobo have small bios size
Don't spread misinformation, AMD might choose to release a BIOS update to allow b450 motherboards to run the new CPU, this isn't new to us :)
Edit: The X570 is for enthusiast high end builds, they can't possibly let these budget picks run exclusively on the wrong category.
B450 is still good budget option! And good enough to these 4 core cpus!
@@geepsu666 You're right. I have an asus board, last update is from September last year :S
Omg... You can't just drop a bombshell like that at the end and leave us thinking WTF. I think most people were expecting support :-( Can't wait for a follow-up to discuss why.
Man, AMD keeps surprising, performance is stronger than expected! Glad to see more options for budget gamers, since the 1600 AF is being overpriced by retailers
this is the best of all reviews i have seen! Steve always gets to the facts i want to see..Great video on these NEW Ryzen 3 chips!
My poor Ryzen 5 2600 getting overrun by his Ryzen 3 children :(
whole bunch of 3100 and 3300x reviews just popped up in my feed, and I knew exactly which one to click on first :D
extremely thorough and helpful as always!
Tbh Amd killed R5 3600 in a way by 3300x. I'm happy though( a bit cz of own a 3600 )
EDIT: seeing all the comments , i need to clear out that yes 3600 is futureproof more than 3300x. Only saying like my heart fell when i saw the Single core value more of 3300x than 3600. At that point i got to know this cpu will be on par of 3600. The MAIN TAKEAWAY is that now its better to get a 3300x for regular people like those who normally browse or want solid gaming at great value rather 3500 . For anyone doing anything more than this(even slightest bit of content creation, 3600 will win anyday.. i will always be proud of my 3600 and its baby 2200g. Both are my children.
Not really 6 cores 12 threads have much more horses under the hood.
This is just an opinion, but in the long run I think your 6 core would fare better than 3300x
The 3300x will slap budget cpus around but the 3600 is still superior considering all things. U made a great purchase
not really for productivity and streaming
Nope the diffence is when u playing on multiplayer fps games then u will notice the difference between 6c12t cpu vs 4c8t cpu.
Great info as always. I've been looking for info around the performance of the new Ryzen 3 chips for my upcoming build. Great stuff!
Intel: We're getting beat but still have something!
AMD: FATALITY!!!!
Almos 500k subs, congrats Harbor Boxed!
Hardware Unboxed (9:30): Ryzen 3 3300X “corona benchmark”
TH-cam: This video shall be demonetized
Best testing and analysis on TH-cam. Thanks for showing what these $100 chips can do. I'm sure lots of budget rigs will be built with these chips. I personally live near a microcenter, so the 3600 is my choice for a budget chip, but only because I can pick one up for about $150.
No matter how much you justify the Ryzen 3, Intel fanboys are coming for you Steve.
Thank you for adding the DaVinci benchmark!
Ryzen 3 3300X chewing on the heels of the Ryzen 5 1600 and 2600 in productivity? And similar or better than Ryzen 7 2700X in gaming? This is literally a killer CPU in value
Not similar. The 8 core CPUs obviosuly kill it in multicore and much much smoother irl games. The frame pacing on an 8 core is so much smoother than a 3300x
This is to be expected just like 3600 vs 2700x. Single core performance is way better and makes up for the 2 missing cores in most cases.
@@haonanzhang6759 well if you go to gamers nexus review the 3300x and 3100, because of their lack of cores and threads have much more erratic frametimes than even a 1600af. This means that the game will be smoother on the 1600af than say a 3300x, if the cores are being utilised which they are in most games these days, so the 1600af being smoother is a better gaming experience. The 2700x Vs 3600 is only a 33% core increase so the difference is smaller while the 3100/3300x Vs a 6 core cpu is 50% core difference so it matters more there.
I can see why they held off doing this until Intel pushed them to release this product line: in many instances, the 3300X is a reasonable competitor to even the 3600--especially in gaming. It's a good reminder that most software still hasn't scaled beyond four cores and that frequency and cache are still the major indicators of regular consumer platform performance. Given that this part will definitely not compete against the higher range of Intel, I thought this was a pretty good spread, given your time budget. Looking forward to your mega-graphs when the extra data gets added. Great video as always.
oof, I bought a 1600 AF a few weeks ago for $185 AUD. Ah well, the extra cores and threads will be handy.
Still will last you a long time
Forget to say, thanks for your review. Can't wait for the follow up.
i wasn't expecting the news on the b450 chip . i m sad.
But I think most likely Zen3 will work on B450, as I know for a fact that Zen2 works on most first gen AM4 boards.
@@kian8382 I mean, AMD's slide said no, so I'm gonna believe them rather than blind optimism. It will be nice if they do support it, but don't make upgrade plans based on it happening.
@Anthony Bazalar just bought a 3600x . and i thought I could upgrade in a 3-4 years. seems the only way now is the ryzen 9 series. which demands great cooling and psu.
When ryzen 3000 release, AMD said it won't support B350 and X370 but at end it did support R5 and R7.
They are now saying that B450 and X470 won't support Ryzen 4000 because it will not be a full support and it is up to motherboard manufacture
@@manosp6448 read my comment
The Ryzen 5 3600 is available for $160 in the US at stores like Microcenter. I managed to buy my R5 2600 for $100 late last year when the 1600 AF couldn't be found. A couple of months ago the 2600X was available for $110 but it has since gone up in price by 20 USD.
"4 cores are dead"
Intel: yeah, kinda
AMD: oh no, they aren't
Would be great to some GPU scaling results between 1600af/3100/3300x. Probably need a high end gpu like 2070s or more to see any real difference between them. Would be interesting to see results with 1660s and lower as most will be looking at GPUs below 250 price point to go with these budget chips. My guess would be they would be very close within 5%.
Yes! Finally AMD competing with Intel on the Low end
AMD was slapping Intel around in the Low-end even before. The Ryzen 5 1600, not even AF, the 2600, the 3200G, 3400G, 3000G are *all* superior to their price competitors.
The Ryzen 5 1600AF Destroys anything Intel has under $150USD.
@Warm Soft Kitty A used 6700 and 7700K are more expensive
Try hard troll
@Warm Soft Kitty And how much does a used 6700K cost second hand.
Warm Soft Kitty a 7700K is around ~$300 on eBay (watch Linus’ Video, as well as Gamers Nexus’ video), dont be Ignorant. We get it you are an Intel Fanboy.
Even I saw huge potential in Zen 2, I'd never thought the new Ryzen 3 could beat 9400F in games. Well done AMD, you surprised me again.
looks like it's time to change my ryzen 3 2200g :)
A 3300x and a 580 or a 1660s gonna be a banger with the b450 tomahawk max or a a-series moto from msi
Lol buy a 1600af. Less fps, but a much smoother experience.
just wait for the 7nm goodness (APUs are gen behind )
@@miniweeddeerz1820 they are 150 dollars now not 85 anymore :(
@@hauntified9060 F. A Ryzen 7 2700? Overclocked stock cooler 3.9ghz
I upgraded my main machine last year, I had a core I5 3770k overclocked and wanted to get a B450 tomahawk and a Ryzen 3600, however, the tomahawk and the R5 3600 were out of stock everywhere and I had the money burning my pocket so I bought an Asus X570 based on your recommendation and a R5 2600 as a placeholder for a proper CPU, all for $200 with a Newegg promotion code (sick discount, I still can't believe it). And I have to say I'm glad I did, I got the newer X570 platform and the 2600 is performing amazing so far, will wait for Ryzen 4000 and upgrade to a Ryzen 7 4800X or whatever the name will be for a comparable part and my machine will be unstoppable!!!!
Amd : *released 3100 3300x
Coffin dance squad : *stare at intel
I still prefer the 1600 AF, 6/12 with less clock works better imho.
Not even less clocks. You can get it to 3.9ghz stock cooler. It's also the smoother cpu
Ran out of time = Had to go fishing
Knowing him... had to actually finally sleep lol
Wait Haiti has a space program lmao🤔😂?
@@randalllawkin it's not what you think. They create space for their overpopulated cities to expand.
Hahahah
Congrats on 500K
Just imagine if AMD released a $60, 4C/4T Athlon based on the new Zen 2 architecture, the 9100f would commit suicide in total embarrassment and shame.
or a 3100 with Zen 3 blood down the line?
Comparison between the two topologies, with everything else the same, is extremely appreciated!
AMD's version of 7700k basically, but waaaaay better.
Hey Steve, Since the 3100X and 3300X CPUs are ultra budget options, can you pair them up with like a 1650 Super, 5500XT or a 1660 Super gpu at the high end to get a grasp of a more realistic scenario.
I always find it funny when you say, TIM covered a CPU. Especially since the Ryzen CPUs are soldered and thus are not covered by TIM.
Hi, can you consider including the Ryzen 5 3500 also in these reviews? That's a really cheap chip here in India.
And on that bombshell...
good night.
The fly ( just face planted ) in the ointment! Damn it! :/
Thanks for the video this presents an interesting proposition for those looking to build soon. Given as you said in the end of the video that if you want to upgrade further this cpu later if you have a 400 series motherboard it would seem that you may be better off waiting until the 550 boards are released. Then again as the Zen 4000 series cpu's will not support DDR5 any motherboard you buy in the next probably 2 years will mean you will likely need a 600 or maybe 700 series motherboard to run a Z 5000 CPU assuming it supports DDR5. This I think then means once Zen 5000 is out that will probably mean the start of the AM5 era.
So for me I am thinking now it is at least better to wait until you can get a B550 motherboard if you are considering either of these or maybe the 3600(X) if not the next-gen parts later this year. If I did buy a 3300X and a B550 I hope that we don't get too bad of a deal here in Australia on them given how much our dollar is changing I fear we likely will as always.
23:54 that's not correct,PRIME X370-PRO
support ryzen 3000,even though in the graph,it's not "supported"..wtf
AMD’s official support is different than individual motherboard vendors’ support
@@StiggyAzalea What's important is that AMD does open support if possible. Intel closes support if possible. People say you can run 8th and 9th gen intel on first gen 1151 if you mod the bios.
As always, individual support is per vendor. Hopefully you would be able to add one yourself if your vendor doesn't.
Before everyone loses their minds over the Zen 3 backwards compatibility - remember that 3rd gen/Zen 2 doesn't officially support the 300-series either, yet we've seen 300-series boards functioning perfectly fine with 3rd gen.
"Doesn't support" and "doesn't work" are two very different phrases, right now we only know that the first one applies
Exactly. My Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 has no issues with a Ryzen 5 3600. Gigabyte were nice enough to offer BIOS support prior to the Zen 2 launch.
Can't wait for the inevitable Userbenchmark controversy on this one...
userbench will change the algorithm to 1 cores 2 threads!
AM4 Master Race 2017-2020 has been amazing for CPU tech!
Steve, can you do an IPC/performance comparision between the Ryzen 3 3300X and the i7 7700K
Thank you so much! My 3300x bundle is coming soon! Only way to get it in the UK is via a mobo bundle... hope it speeds up emulators for my son! And I can sell my old xeon rig! Goodbye techyescity, hello Hardwareunboxed :)
23:52 i knew it...T_T...i also heard 1 out of 7 ryzen 4000s cpu needs new tracing only sloved on b550s cause x570 was already out...hope it's not true...and amd took some codes from 1 of the motherboard manufacturer
what?
@@zangetsu6638 im confused lol
the official amd response is that only B5XX chipsets will support ryzen 4000 cpu's. it's was known for some time that b3xx/b4xx will be supported until 2020.
Dang, that 3300x is quite impressive, will you make overclocking video for these CPU? Gamers nexus manage to push both the 3100 and 3300x to 4.4Ghz
For gaming, the 3300X is basically a cheaper 3600.
Not at all lol. Check tech deals video review of these CPUs and him comparing the smoothness on a 6 core Vs a 4 core. The difference is huge.
hello from idaho . got the 1600 af sorry you guys have a hard time getting this cpu. love the vidoes
Recommendation for games to test:
Why not include widely played games like:
- Apex Legends
- Fortnite
- Valorant
- New CoD
- Minecraft
I know there's only so much games you can test but I would highly suggest using a few of the above in the list since they're much more widely played than some of the games in the list.
First four game you mentioned, are MULTIPLAYER GAMES. You not get same results on every map. You can't benchmark with multiplayer games.
We hope to see those benchmarks, and also the 3300X overclocked to see how stack between the 3600 at stock
Ahh nothing like beating those blocks at 300+ fps in competitive minecrafting. Am i right?
@@GameBacardi that's a false bold claim because Steve himself and many other youtubers HAVE benchmarked these games. They have replay features and regardless of a few fluctuations, if you go on the same map, and follow same routes, it'll still give a very rough idea.
Are are you implying that all the multiplayer game benchmarked on TH-cam are fabricated lies because it just CAN'T be done?
@@ivanbrasla when you set the render distance to far, Minecraft can be a bitch to run smoothly. Also, now there's an RTX version available of Minecraft so it also makes sense to include that for those with RTX graphics cards.
Great Video. I would suggest bench marking Ryzen 3500 vs Ryzen 3100 or 3300x both are 16mb l3 cache and both are 7nm in design.
Like if you're waiting for 4th gen Ryzen CPUs
at 23:40 there is an error. Some x370 & b350 motherboards do support the Ryzen 3000 series processors.
Most of them actually. Even A320 motherboards do. I own a B350 and it supports these chips, and even the 3950X...
Intel was dead long time ago
@Warm Soft Kitty just a few years ago Intel accounted for 99.99% of cpu sales so that's a huge drop in just a couple of years, no surprise though is it really when amd is outselling Intel in cpu sales.
yeah dead AF
@Warm Soft Kitty Because AMD used to have less then 5 % of the market you moron. In a few years they managed to get more then 20% of maket share back which Impressive. Besides AMD sells much more CPU that Intel nowdays on the diy market
Noup... Intel still sell more cpus than AMD does. Amd can have cpus that Are douple the speed of Intel and half the price and still Intel sell more!
Newer underestimate how much people trust Intel inside sticker...
@@haukionkannel That's because you consider also the laptop market. AMD is almost non existent in that market and now they have released actual better product than Intel. It will take time to take that market share from Intel. On the DIY on the other hand AMD sells triple the cpu and they have over 20% share. Few years ago they less than 5% on diy market
How soon will the video about the Zen 3 processors and 500 boards be available? I just hope this isn't like what the blue team had done with their new LGA 1200.
Disgusted my b450 tomahawk max doesn't support Zen 3 ;(
But b350 and x370 should not be able to support Ryzen 3xxx0 according to this graph , and they actually do. WTF
it will don't sorry, officially AMD won't support it but board vendors can do whatever they want
MSI said the max version has bigger bios to support next gen CPU. Don't worry man
Probably not the case. No official support does not equal no support. 95% chance they will be supported.
Harware Unboxed, Always ahead. Thanks
R.I.P i7 7700K buyers
That graph about AM4 socket and CPU support doesn't seem to show what you're saying, Steve. It says no support for Matisse on 300 chipsets, but Matisse works fine on B350 and X370 boards with BIOS updates. I think there are even A320 boards with Zen 2 support.
It seems to me that it's indicating which motherboards will feature support out of the box. If so, that makes sense given the comments on how the BIOS runs out of space. You'd have to delete the old files and install new ones as replacement to support newer CPUs. If so, then there's still hope that I'll be able to run Vermeer on my B350 board. Fingers crossed! If so, then I won't have to make the jump to DDR5 for the initial, expensive years.
rip 7700K
@Warm Soft Kitty ARE YOU SMOKING, IT JUST 1 FPS FASTER IN AVERAGE
@Warm Soft Kitty LoL
Plus used 7700k costs around 200+
Hello. Its a nice comparison. However i dont know if i just missed it in the video, but may i know what was the gpu used in the test?
The people who disliked probably has the i7 7700k...
Cali-O xD. True. Imagine paying 400$ for a 4 core cpu.
Well, I have an i7 7700k system but I like this video because the 3300X is a better chip. I've had a couple of years good use from the 7700k so no regrets, and anyway AMD had nothing to beat it at the time. The only thing I can say with any certainty is that my next build is unlikely to be Intel based.
@@Yorozuya4ever In my country people are buying 4790K for 200euro on second hand sites.. idiocracy
No other reviewer mentioned the Zen 3 MB comparability nugget. Seems like a big deal, very surprised it wasn’t mentioned.
Can't wait for these to show up in Userbenchmark.
AMD shill alert!!! How come no high end intel CPUs in the benchmarks?
Lol only joking
There was a 7700k somewhere below the €130 CPU if you want to still call that high end.
They are still charging high-end prices for that part at least.