Hubbell NEMA 6-50 Outlet DIY Installation / FAST Tesla EV Home Charging Level 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ธ.ค. 2021
- In this video, Chris installs a Hubbell NEMA 6-50 outlet in his garage to charge his Tesla Model Y. This 240-volt outlet is the most economical way to achieve the fastest Level 2 home charging with the standard Tesla UMC (universal mobile connector), 10 times faster than level 1 at 120 volts.
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Was able to do this myself with barely any previous experience because of this awesome video. Thank you daddy
Thanks so much 😊
One more bit of advice (coming in next week’s video): wait a month and retighten the connections after wiggling the wires to make sure they are really tight, unless you have a torque screwdriver and can tighten to manufacturer specs.
Thank you for making this tutorial. Your clear instructions answered all my questions.
Glad it was helpful
Thank you, I’ve also wired a lot of my house and felt confident but this video confirmed that my plan was correct. Thank you for making this.
Glad it was helpful 👍🏻
Nice video, nice install. Glad I found this because I'm going with the Nema 6-50 option now
Good choice 👍🏻
Great video. As a long time EV owner (since 2011) we've been using NEMA 6-50 connector with our original Blink home charger, our EVSE upgraded Nisaan Leaf charger, and currently the Tesla mobile connector (with NEMA 6-50 adapter). About to convert a Tesla wall connector with installation to a NEMA 6-50 connector. Thanks for this great video!
You’ve got more experience than me! Want to make a video??? I’ll pay you.
This was very helpful!! Thanks!!!!
Glad it was helpful
Great video. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful 👍🏻
Good job. Great video instruction.
Thanks 😊
Best video I have found on u tube for this topic. I want a welding plug thanks for sharing
Thanks so much 😊
This is very clear and helpful. If I could add one suggestion, consider using a band of red tape at each end of the white as a reminder to the next person repairing or upgrading that it is hot (probably code?)
Thanks for the tip
Black tape should be placed on the white load wire that connects to the breaker.
Thanks I’ve heard that
Red actually
Any but not green white or gray
Great video! Can you tell me what 6-50 adapter I need to use for a 2016 Tesla MS? Tesla site says Gen 1 NEMA adapters which don't have the extended cord.
I’m not sure what kind of connector your car came with. You may need to buy a Gen 2 UMC to get a 6-50 adapter.
It's always a good practice to test for voltage on the breaker bars inside the panel after turning off the main breaker. Things happen, you just never know...
Thanks for the tip
You should have attached the clamp to the wire and fed it into the panel from underneath and then put the lock ring on inside the panel as this is likely not code compliant this way. Also on the outlet side you could clamp it down rather than leave it loose and pull the whole box out if you had to access it rather than leave it loose; no compromises to code for people's safety.
Good ideas 👍🏻
Nice Video! Could you have used the 8/2 romex wire rated at 40 amps? I understand the maximum charging rate is 32 amps.
Yes, as long as you use a 40-amp breaker.
Great work! I have a question: I see the Tesla mobile charger state a Max 32Amp for the NEMA 6-50. Does that mean the mobile charger will “regulate” the power to max 32 Amp even the 240V 6-50 plug is pushing 50 Amp?
Yes
Used 50A instead of 40A much safety (1 comment), I preferred you tape both side with red/blue/yellow to make sûre it is not neutral wire, Thx for your youtube.
Yeah I got that neutral comment a lot.
16:25 NEC says you need to reidentify the white wire with a different color since it is a current carrying grounded conductor, not a neutral
Wrap with black tape?
@@handydadtv Red tape.
Good to know! Thanks.
@@handydadtv red would be better, but black is ok
Personally if I were building my own home from scratch and was planning on using an electric car, I would install a nema 6-50R, fed by 6awg AL SEU cable which is good for 40 amps, assuming the terminals are rated 60°C, since the max charging amps is 32, and 40 amps is 125% of 32 and a 50 amp receptacle is allowed on a 40 or 50 amp circuit. Much cheaper than 3 wire plus ground cable, which is a waste for a straight 240 volt load. You only need 3 wire with ground cable for a combo 120/240 volt load such as a range or dryer
I’ve changed my tune as well
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Great video, thank you. NEC calls for GFCI 50A breaker. Noticed you didn't use one?
That’s a separate video th-cam.com/video/BixGQisysDc/w-d-xo.html
@@handydadtv ahh...excellent, thanks for confirming...I was not 100% sure.
I actually purchased that breaker in 2019 but never installed it in my old house, so I thought maybe I’d be grandfathered? 😂
@@handydadtv I would say yes👍😁
I’m curious, is there any downfall in going to two-conductor (no return) versus three-conductor (dedicated return)? I know that the negative busbars and the ground busbars are bonded, but there has to be a reason/benefit for a dedicated return; I just don’t know what it is. Thoughts?
The neutral is only required if your device needs both voltages 240v and 120v.
Where can I buy the indoor wire? (I live in NJ too) Great video btw!
Home Depot and Lowe’s sell it by the foot.
Thanks for this! Did you use the 6/2 or 8/3 wire?
The 6-50 needs 6/2 wire.
@@handydadtv Thanks for responding. I was waiting to buy until you did. Appreciate the video.
Perfect timing. I started installing my nema 14-50. I can only run my power through the main panel and it has a bonded neutral and ground so I can’t finish the installation. I am forced to get the adaptor for 6-50 now and install the 6-50 outlet.
The fact that your neutral is bonded to ground in your panel is irrelevant. You can do a 14-50 or 6-50 either way.
@@handydadtv thanks for the response. I was reading many threads and was really confused and thought it was safer to go with the 6-50. Had mixed messages.
I don’t know about other chargers, but I know the Tesla UMC only uses the 240-volt conductors. The neutral wire (120v) is not used.
That’s my primary reason for making this video. People are hog wild for the 14-50 and it’s driving prices way up. The 6-50 is a great option.
If I have three wires coming out from the wall (red, black, and white), do I just ignore the red wire and just connect the black and white wire?
No, the 6-50 doesn’t have a neutral so you’ll probably use the red and black. Use a voltage tester and make sure you get 220-240 volts across the red and black. You should also get 110-120 volts across black/ground and red/ground. There’s no need to test the white if you don’t need the neutral. Just cap it off.
Just to make sure. Connect red, black, and the ground (copper) to the plug. And it doesn't matter which direction the red and black go?@@handydadtv
@ziyulu Connect the two hots and the ground to the 6-50. But you need to verify the voltage, wire size and breaker size are correct. I can’t do that for you.
Although you explained in your answers to others’ comments: Tesla charger doesn’t need the neutral, still why 14-50 is so popular? And why a 14-50 plug was provided by tesla, not the 6-50. There must be some reason for it. Thoughts? Enjoyed your videos. Thanks
14-50 is more versatile because it has the neutral wire, even though Tesla doesn’t need it. 14-50s are often found in campgrounds to power sub-panels in big RVs.
@@handydadtv solid point on the 14-50 being found at campgrounds. That’s a huge selling point for ‘Camp Mode’ on the Tesla which explains its popularity. Nice video.
What I gathered was that it the 14-50 is more commonly used and found. I installed the 6-50 because the 14-50 is sold out right now.
NEC 2020 says you need GFCI protection for EV chargers (625.54). Does the GFI protection in the charger itself cover that requirement?
No. The receptacle needs to be protected even when nothing is plugged in.
Hello, I have a Nema 650 receptacle in my garage but my ev charger has a 14-50 plug. Do I have to change the receptacle or can I simply use a 650 to 1450 adapter safely?
You need to ask the manufacturer of your EVSE if it will work without a neutral. Typically they will, but you need to be sure.
Will Nema 6-50 once installed can be used with Tesla provided Mobile charger or another wall charger needs to be purchased separately
Both. You can get the 6-50 adapter for your Tesla UMC, or you can get a J-1772 charger with a 6-50 plug. Video on this topic coming soon!
your Tesla guide link says that the Nema 6-50 allows up to a 32 amp draw, however your video states it allows up to a 40 amp draw... pls clarify this
The Tesla UMC uses a max of 32 amps.
does it matter which lugs the black and white wires go to (on the outlet and breaker)? or are they pretty mucb interchangeable because its 240 and not 120?
I know it’s confusing because white is usually neutral, but in this case they are both hot. It doesn’t matter which lugs you use.
@@handydadtv thats what i was assuming, also, they dont help matters with the plug either... they still have the smaller one (hot side) and larger one (neutral side) like 120 lol
Yeah not sure why they did that.
An electrician commented on this video that it’s a best practice to wrap red tape around a white wire that isn’t neutral.
Is the box too shallow? I accidentally boughted a masonry box, not sure if it can be installed on a drywall.
I bought a deep box purposely.
Can you use this set up for a welder?
Absolutely
Awesome information thank you 🙏 and I ❤️ for that..
When I click on your links it doesn't take me to the exact item, just to Amazon but don't know which one to get 😔
Sorry I try not to link a specific listing because they change all the time and then the links don’t work at all. The top results of that link should be the Hubbell NEMA 6-50 receptacle, number HBL9367.
@@handydadtv Thank you for replying.. if you don't mind me asking, why did you change from the 14-50 to the 6-50?
So many people were complaining about the price of the 14-50 that I wanted to show a cheaper alternative that provides the same speed of charge.
@@handydadtv once again, thank you for taking the time to reply to my comments.
So I got ahead of myself by ordering the 6-50 tesla plug because the 14-50 is out of stock and the electrician charges me the same price for installation but will you recommend nema 14-50 installation over the 6-50 or it really doesn't matter since I don't think I'll have the need of the neutral since I don't have and RV or any other thing to plug that will need the neutral pong on the 14-50
Install the 6-50.
Awesome Video. i was able to install easily. Thank you for making it easy. :) Only issue i have is when i check the voltage with my meter on one side and to the ground, im getting 109 volts and the other side i get 139 volts. not sure why its not 120 volts each side. did i get one of the wires crossed somewhere in the panel or inverter?
It’s not unusual for voltage to vary on each leg.
my apologies. one leg was 109v and the other leg is 131v. still a total of 240v. hopefully that is okay. @@handydadtv
@photo3lements It’s fine.
Can I use 6/3 wire with this outlet and just leave the extra conductor unused? I can’t seem to find 6/2 wire anywhere :(
Yes you can do that. Surprised you can’t find 6/2 though.
@@handydadtv lots of people in CA are watching your videos, I guess!!
3:36 for cable recommendations
Thanks
What's up with streaming the shed build over and over for the last 14 hours? lol
Trying something new.
Why did you change your 14-50 receptacle to a 6-50 receptacle?
I just swapped it temporarily to make this video. There are lots of videos on the 14-50 already. Not as many on the 6-50.
@@handydadtv awesome. I thought I noticed some reused footage. Any difference in charging speed?
No, exactly the same charging speed. The 6-50 is just a cheaper alternative for people who have long runs. EVs don’t use the neutral wire anyway, so it’s completely unnecessary.
If your using a cord feed that plug should be GFI protected … Should wrap some black tape around the white wire to show it is a feed wire . Romex connector should be mounted thread side in panel ..
Thanks
Thanks
11:00 the romex connector is upside down. Since you don’t have access to the bottom of the panel, you should clamp it on the cable, then feed it up through the hole in the wall. The locknut should be inside the panel, not the clamping part of the connector.
Or just use a raco insider.
Good idea 👍🏻
Why dont you use the ground in the receptical? Why the ground screw?
You need to bond the receptacle and the box to ground. Unless you use a plastic box.
@handydadtv yes I got a metal housing box like you linked. so what's going to happen if I don't use a ground screw and just connect the ground wire from receptical to the ground in the breaker box?
Without the box being grounded, it can become energized and a potential shock hazard.
Is that up to code ? A 240v outlet in a garage should be on a GFCI breaker.
See Do I need a GFCI Circuit Breaker for EV Charging?
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So it doesn’t matter which holes I put the two hot wires in on either side? Meaning, they can go into either hole on the plug receptacle and on the breaker?
Yes they are both hots.
Can you explain what you did with the ground wire inside the box? You looked like you twisted two grounds together - where did the other one come from? I only have the one coming out of the Romex wire.
@@handydadtv oh so it looks like you simply took some extra ground wire and cut it? Then put that into the outlet, through the ground screw, and then reattached it to the main ground line? Why did you do it like that? Why the need to cut a separate wire at all?
I needed to bond the metal box to ground because it’s not good enough to only have the ground on the receptacle.
BTW, I could have avoided it with a plastic box.
did you pull permits?
I think you “pull” permits when you’re buying a property and you want to know if work was approved. I think you mean “obtain” permits. I did.
@@handydadtv ok, thanks for the reply and for the correction in terminology, good to know.
also, good videos by the way. I wish I was as brave as you with electricity. 🙂
I only have a 100A panel at home. Do I really need a 200A panel to do this? I also only have 2 spaces left on my board and they're split on different sides.
I suggest you contact a local electrician to do a load calculation to be sure.
Wrap red electrical tape around that #6 white conductor. Also, 1953 called they want their multimeter back.
LOL someone else saw this and sent me a new one. 😁
4:25 it says Cu and AL which is aluminum. Should be rated for aluminum wire tooo
There is a slash over the aluminum symbol. It supports copper only.
What if breaker panel have no space
Call an electrician
Buy a different panel but that would need an electrician
10 times?
?
Reupload? I swear I've seen this video before
Sort of. I reused portions from the NEMA 14-50 video, the things I couldn’t reproduce.
I was wondering the same.
This guy didnt even include the cable or breaker he used!
I absolutely said it was Romex 6/3.
You need to buy a breaker matched to your panel. My breaker won’t work in every panel so if I linked it, a lot of people would need to return them.
I have a 250v outlet in my garage, can I plug the 6-50 adapter into it?
The “-50” means it’s a 50-amp receptacle. It can only be used with a 50-amp circuit breaker.