No matter what, don't stop doing what you're doing. You have a fanbase whose childhood you've made. If you're cooking up something amazing, don't let us rush you. As long as you're happy.
Really appreciate the comment! It always makes me happy to know that people still remember this animation and how it was part of many childhoods^^ I know haven't posted in a while. Let's just say life has been kicking my ass for the past few........But one things for sure, I read everyone's comments and I really do appreciate them. Also, I have not given up on my animation projects. Especially The Big Green 1!
@@liquidcrow Life's hard; we're all pretty much grown up now. We're human beings, we'd love to see more content from you, but I wouldn't be the one to demand or rush you for it. Like I said, keep doing what you do if you truly love doing it. Don't let it be a burden because of demand!
dude this is crazy man, I don't think I've seen this animation in about 6 year, I remember when I was a kid thinking this was the coolest shi I've ever seen and IT IS!!! this stuff along withs sickpage was my everything. Thank u for making this and being a part of so many peoples childhoods
Cmon man I watched this when I was 8, now I’m 19, still rooting for the part 2. Despite that this animations really good for its time, probably why I remember it.
Damn, it's been ten years since this was first uploaded and man does time fly. I remember watching this back in elementary school and loving the hell out of it and I still do.
Thank you so much good sir! Due to life, rent and the bills, it has been hard to put more time into the next episode so it's moving super super super super slow. But I do indeed want to put more effort into the Big Green 1 series, so I will am now do what I should've done a long time ago. Ask the fans for their help and support! So again, I do thank you for the support that you can give! I will be doing a full blown Big Green 1 campaign soon.
Believe me. I know how much time has passed. I knew kids who where great animators when this first came out, who are now straight up adults doing great work (whether its movies or animation) in their professional adult lives. I just have one more big animation commission project to do and I am going to go back to The Big Green 1 series. They have to finish their mission!
2009: To be continued... 2010: To be continued... 2011: To be continued... 2012: To be continued... 2013: To be continued... 2014: To be continued... 2015: To be continued... 2016: To be continued... 2017: To be continued... 2018: To be continued... 2019: To be continued... 2020: To be continued...(We thought we'd be dead) 2021: To be continued...
Just suddenly remembered this animation for some reason. I remember it being one of the first stick animations I saw back in like 2007, maybe? I remember waiting forever for the sequel, but it never came out. Or maybe it eventually did, but I had forgotten about it by that point.
yes, this was actually my first completed flash. Took way too long to do :/ Ive been doing the other ep in 3d which is taking a while longer but looks alot better :)
Jesus i was only 9 years old when i first saw this... couldnt even imagine what the heck is going on...amazing to think about it tho :D still amazing and breathtaking piece of art on this rotting platform Big respect sir!!!
Thank you for taking the time to write this! It's very inspiring ^^ Reading comments like this ...it's just great to see! I hope to bring the same 'BooM BooM PoW' for the second version (which I know has been long time in the making).
Much appreciation for your comment and much love for Japan! Its always fun to see how this animation was a part of peoples childhoods. I'm currently working on some things, hoping to be able to make new animation memorable moments^^
I was in preschool when I was watching this… barely knowing about the internet and TH-cam. Now I’m a few days away from high school graduation! Thank you for being part of my childhood and making an animation that’s going to be in my mind! 🙏♥️
From preschool to high school....dang, how time flies! I really want to get back to fully animating again. I need to stop letting life kick my butt and just get back to it. Thank you, and to all who have left such inspiring comments!^^
That was actually suppose to happen on the third episode. I have the story already planned out. I just need to find a way to be able to put time into animating again. Kickstarters or any form of fan funding will be the only way to get the next animation episodes done in this life time.
@@liquidcrow please please release more episodes I first watched this when I was like 10 now im 26 and have stage 4 pancreatic cancer it's my dying wish to see part 2 and more please sir.
@@actionjackson4038 - 4th stage? I'm really sorry to hear that....F**k cancer.... I hear you and the other fans. Even after how many years......I'm going to focus and get a short vid out within the next month. It has definitely been wayyyyyy too overdue.... Also, once again...f**k cancer....I wish everyone going through it a speedy recovery. No matter what stage, stay hopeful...
Dude, I remember watching this as a kid.But I swear that there was music, some kind of an acoustic guitar song.I’ve been busting my head for weeks in an attempt to find it again!
yeah that was another stick figure movie :D The song was "here comes the sun" i thing. it was some kindoff 'movie set' that ended with lord of the rings: "my brother, my captain, my king"
to ira, the creator of this i just wanted to say thanks, i still remember watching this 8 years ago back as a kid and its given me alot of memories, infact i went to find this channel to see part too because i forgot the name of this as a kid and couldnt find it 8 years later i found it and part two still isnt out XD but dont worry man what you have made so far is awsome and i support you all the way man
Hi Andrei, thank you for taking the time to write your comment. It's definitely appreciated....and inspiring to read =) I know it's been quite a few years since I made the first episode, but Its still one of my life goals to have part 2 out for the world to see. Already got stuff in the works for it.....just need to put it all together. Thanks again though. It's comments like this that lights a little fire of inspiration.........got to get the series moving once more!
Idk who u r men but i truly want to kwno that you r doing well, this was the first time that i understand the meaning of epicness, i was so into this war stuff back when i was just a little kid, now im 22 and m still reading all kind of hystorical war books and all of that and am here to give you a big thanks bro, this video is part of my childhood peace from chile ❤ I hope we get some new stuff on your channel ❤
Thank you for taking the time to write a comment. I read every comment and some of the things you guys/ girls have written has definitely been inspiring (your comment included!). I'm working on getting back to animating and the next half of the episode is not dead yet (even if it has been many years). Everyone who has appreciated this animation, even after all these years....you are all awesome^^ Thanks again for the comment! and stay safe in Chile!
Ya. I know its been super super super long. Its always on my mind everyday. I am really thinking about getting a crowdfunding campaign going so that I can have the time and funding to work on it whole heartedly again.
Brother, when I saw it when I was 4 years old I never knew it was real, and I took it a lot as a "real incident" until today it was an animation, whose activity was to show his work, part of the Stickman fandom. It was when the theme of the Second World War was popular, old times, those were the Stickman era, but also for this gentleman of the account.
Thanks for all the nice comments guys, it helps keep the spirit of making the second episode alive. And yes, only 7000 views because other people have posted my Big Green 1 like Leasty27. If you guys can ask the others people of have posted it to take it down that would help me a lot. Again thanks all :)
@holycrapith just imagine how long it would take for him to make something as good as this one, under the pressure that a lot of people are waiting for it, be patient.
Back after 10 months cuz i forgot the name of this lol...Anyway,what software are you using to create this? (Sorry if i seemed a little aggresive there)
I remember watching this since I was about 6-7 I think but now Im junior 11th grade in high school going to be 17 in 10 more days left so yeah I'll keep watching this one today and yeah my great memories how come back for me man lol great time. Almost being adult like 2 more year left. Oh and I've got 2 More year left to join United States Army infantry and national guard maybe us marines corps as well(maybe).
Thank you for taking the time to write a comment. It's always nice to know how this animation has been seen and appreciated by so many people, for such a long time. I really have to continue it, even though its been a long time. Good luck to you though if you do decide to join the military!
Thank you for commenting. I know the Big Green 1 troops have been stuck on that beach for a very very very very very long time....but they will find a way... within this year! The grass will be 'greener' on the other side!
ตุลาพร เลื่องลือ, he favorited your comment, but I thought his channel was dead, I guess he's still working, probably it would take another year or more.
Noxen Mlg I was actually just looking through Patreon. I'm gonna set something up sometime this weekend or next week. I gotta say, thank you. A lot of people just ask "When is it going to be done??? Is it ever going to be done???". You are the first to suggest a way to help me finish the second episode while showing support. Thank you. =)
OMG! dude!!! THIS IS SOOOO FUCKING AWESOME! I MEAN, LIKE THESE WORDS CAN'T DESCRIBE HOW AWESOME THIS IS!! dude, i admire you. AMAZING job! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to good to only have 7000 views!
![Call Of Duty Sticks: Infected - [Stickpage.com]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/B72XN0tVlUY/mqdefault.jpg)
No matter what, don't stop doing what you're doing. You have a fanbase whose childhood you've made.
If you're cooking up something amazing, don't let us rush you. As long as you're happy.
Really appreciate the comment! It always makes me happy to know that people still remember this animation and how it was part of many childhoods^^
I know haven't posted in a while. Let's just say life has been kicking my ass for the past few........But one things for sure, I read everyone's comments and I really do appreciate them. Also, I have not given up on my animation projects. Especially The Big Green 1!
@@liquidcrow Life's hard; we're all pretty much grown up now. We're human beings, we'd love to see more content from you, but I wouldn't be the one to demand or rush you for it.
Like I said, keep doing what you do if you truly love doing it. Don't let it be a burden because of demand!
14 years later and this animation is still better than most animation nowadays lol
Still waiting till this day for the second part lol
15 now 2023!
It’s been 13 years and I can’t even make a as good animation as this one
You can
Make it 14
@@TheInternalForces why are you counting 💀
P0p:
Part 2 in the works for 15+ years. Bro making an EXPERIENCE not a film.
This brings my back to the old days when I was just some kid looking at stick page and being amazed
Its been 11 years and its still to be continued.
12 now
@@slefle5301 oof
Wait a minute
If he hearted that comment then that means he still knows this has not been continued so HE HAS NO EXCUSE EXCEPT LAZINESS
@@Segalcentral69420 nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
2 millions people were waiting for the next episode of this now its a ghost town
15 years later still an amazing animation
Wished they finished it
Mhm
That animation was amazing. I still coming back here.
I remember watching this when it was first made, and I love it. Now it's 12 years later, I STILL LOVE IT!!
dude this is crazy man, I don't think I've seen this animation in about 6 year, I remember when I was a kid thinking this was the coolest shi I've ever seen and IT IS!!! this stuff along withs sickpage was my everything. Thank u for making this and being a part of so many peoples childhoods
I watched this when I was younger , now i'm watching this again , old animations are better than current animations
that one time when a older animation is better than recent animations
Oh he still living he liked ur comment 😁
IKR
Cmon man I watched this when I was 8, now I’m 19, still rooting for the part 2. Despite that this animations really good for its time, probably why I remember it.
Damn, it's been ten years since this was first uploaded and man does time fly. I remember watching this back in elementary school and loving the hell out of it and I still do.
Thank you so much good sir!
Due to life, rent and the bills, it has been hard to put more time into the next episode so it's moving super super super super slow. But I do indeed want to put more effort into the Big Green 1 series, so I will am now do what I should've done a long time ago. Ask the fans for their help and support!
So again, I do thank you for the support that you can give!
I will be doing a full blown Big Green 1 campaign soon.
It’s been 7 years since you made this statement
Still waiting....
(U.S. Soldier)”Open Fire!!!”(3:08)
Part 2?
Maybe
90% of comments: ITS BEEN 11 YEARS
Me: Such an impressive animation for 11 years ago software's...
its actually from 2003
WOW 12 YEARS
Cool very cool
I watched this when I was 9, now I'm 15 lmao...memories
lol i was like 9 too
Time flies
Believe me. I know how much time has passed. I knew kids who where great animators when this first came out, who are now straight up adults doing great work (whether its movies or animation) in their professional adult lives.
I just have one more big animation commission project to do and I am going to go back to The Big Green 1 series. They have to finish their mission!
Jay... watched this when I was 6 or 7 and now I'm 13
haha almost a decade later part 2 still being made
Damn I remember watching this a while back this is still good. Hope it continues
2009: To be continued...
2010: To be continued...
2011: To be continued...
2012: To be continued...
2013: To be continued...
2014: To be continued...
2015: To be continued...
2016: To be continued...
2017: To be continued...
2018: To be continued...
2019: To be continued...
2020: To be continued...(We thought we'd be dead)
2021: To be continued...
2022: To be continued…
2023: To be continued...
2024: To be continued...
Just suddenly remembered this animation for some reason. I remember it being one of the first stick animations I saw back in like 2007, maybe?
I remember waiting forever for the sequel, but it never came out. Or maybe it eventually did, but I had forgotten about it by that point.
I hope he continues this before i die this is in m bucket list now
Finishing this is #1 in my bucket list! 2019***
@some guy - I am. Just got an excellent sfx library and upgraded my animation rig. Its just been a real challenge as everything requires funding.
This is old but very realistic
@@liquidcrow YAY
I can't wait for the next episode, i've been waiting for 13 long years!!
yes, this was actually my first completed flash. Took way too long to do :/ Ive been doing the other ep in 3d which is taking a while longer but looks alot better :)
Dang I remember watching this in my younger years...
I was terrified.
May I suggest the first 10 minutes of saving private Ryan?
2008: wow amazing
2019: wow amazing
2026: wow amazing
2044: wow amazing
2053: wow amazing
2079: wow amazing
2099: wow amazing
3099 wow amazing
5099 this is old
Wow amazing
2020 wow amazing
Old but AMAZING
me in 2021 :
13 years since this came out, waiting till it’s continued.
Jesus i was only 9 years old when i first saw this... couldnt even imagine what the heck is going on...amazing to think about it tho :D
still amazing and breathtaking piece of art on this rotting platform
Big respect sir!!!
Thank you for taking the time to write this! It's very inspiring ^^ Reading comments like this ...it's just great to see! I hope to bring the same 'BooM BooM PoW' for the second version (which I know has been long time in the making).
日本人でこの動画を見たのは私だけだ。7歳の頃、学校から帰ったらずっと見ていた。本当に懐かしい。今は17歳で今でもこれを見ている。あなたのアニメは素晴らしい！日本から愛を込めて❤
Much appreciation for your comment and much love for Japan! Its always fun to see how this animation was a part of peoples childhoods. I'm currently working on some things, hoping to be able to make new animation memorable moments^^
To be Continued... 8 years later... Still waiting
SlyWolf Animations Now it's 9 years... still waiting...
Almost 10. 10 year anniversary
Cyantile Yeah...
привет я нотвеем канале первый раз
Ill wait 50 damn years if I have too.
I was in preschool when I was watching this… barely knowing about the internet and TH-cam. Now I’m a few days away from high school graduation! Thank you for being part of my childhood and making an animation that’s going to be in my mind! 🙏♥️
From preschool to high school....dang, how time flies!
I really want to get back to fully animating again. I need to stop letting life kick my butt and just get back to it.
Thank you, and to all who have left such inspiring comments!^^
That was actually suppose to happen on the third episode. I have the story already planned out. I just need to find a way to be able to put time into animating again. Kickstarters or any form of fan funding will be the only way to get the next animation episodes done in this life time.
Are you dead?
@@jadenmorales543 - Lol, not just yet
How, will the ever be another big green
@@liquidcrow please please release more episodes I first watched this when I was like 10 now im 26 and have stage 4 pancreatic cancer it's my dying wish to see part 2 and more please sir.
@@actionjackson4038 - 4th stage? I'm really sorry to hear that....F**k cancer....
I hear you and the other fans. Even after how many years......I'm going to focus and get a short vid out within the next month. It has definitely been wayyyyyy too overdue....
Also, once again...f**k cancer....I wish everyone going through it a speedy recovery. No matter what stage, stay hopeful...
That Medal of Honor song at the beginning...
Dude, I remember watching this as a kid.But I swear that there was music, some kind of an acoustic guitar song.I’ve been busting my head for weeks in an attempt to find it again!
yeah that was another stick figure movie :D The song was "here comes the sun" i thing. it was some kindoff 'movie set' that ended with lord of the rings: "my brother, my captain, my king"
Thank you for making this and it being part of my childhood
Thank you soooo much for taking the time to share that. It really means a lot to me.
I really need to get part 2 done. Thank you again ^^
Ira Abando Animation This video is amazing! Did you even start working on Part 2? LOL!
@@valkkyrriee - Yes sir! I know it has been many years, but It is still happening...Bigger, Greener and more Epic!
Ira Abando Animation Alright, thanks!
This is a certified war classic
Badass work.
Time flies shamefully fast.
Btw, at 3:08 it's like two veteran GTA online players taking down a griefer piloting a lazer jet.
Ngl, this video is what got me interested in history
to ira, the creator of this i just wanted to say thanks, i still remember watching this 8 years ago back as a kid and its given me alot of memories, infact i went to find this channel to see part too because i forgot the name of this as a kid and couldnt find it 8 years later i found it and part two still isnt out XD but dont worry man what you have made so far is awsome and i support you all the way man
Hi Andrei,
thank you for taking the time to write your comment. It's definitely appreciated....and inspiring to read =) I know it's been quite a few years since I made the first episode, but Its still one of my life goals to have part 2 out for the world to see. Already got stuff in the works for it.....just need to put it all together.
Thanks again though. It's comments like this that lights a little fire of inspiration.........got to get the series moving once more!
This guy not forget hes password this is awesome
man,i'm waiting years for a part two of this masterpiece....i already lost count of how many times i watched this video :D
I remember watching this a very long time ago
2020, and I still hope episode 2 arrives.
Now its 2022
@@specificnormalperson1972 2022 and I'm still waiting.
IDK why but I used to watch this video as kid everyday , not only this one but also other stickman fighting .
Idk who u r men but i truly want to kwno that you r doing well, this was the first time that i understand the meaning of epicness, i was so into this war stuff back when i was just a little kid, now im 22 and m still reading all kind of hystorical war books and all of that and am here to give you a big thanks bro, this video is part of my childhood peace from chile ❤
I hope we get some new stuff on your channel ❤
Thank you for taking the time to write a comment. I read every comment and some of the things you guys/ girls have written has definitely been inspiring (your comment included!). I'm working on getting back to animating and the next half of the episode is not dead yet (even if it has been many years). Everyone who has appreciated this animation, even after all these years....you are all awesome^^
Thanks again for the comment! and stay safe in Chile!
I'm more hopeful that he'll eventually finish the big green series than cyberjunk devs tryna finish their game
That's for sure. It has been many years, but one thing is for sure, it will not be Half Life 3 or Cyberpunk status when it comes to completion^^
@@liquidcrow my goodness
0:45 Boat guy (Saving Private Ryan)
1:57 Buck Compton (Band of Brothers)
2:45 Carwood Lipton (Band of Brothers)
2:51 Dick Winthers (Band of Brothers)
3:00 Private Reiben (Saving Private Ryan)
Also hearted after 10 years. Worth the wait!
Who’s watching this in 2020?
I am
Me
Me
Or 2021
To be continued
11 years later still waiting
Bro its been a while anf i watch this again in 2020 i feel so sad......and remember my chillhood
Don't be sad! Or at least, don't stay sad. Life's too short
Where is episode 2? Its been 5 years!!
giantepik r Yes it has.
giantepik r
Thanks. Your comments really help. (End sarcasm).
Actually it has been for about 12 years since it was released on Newgrounds.
Ya. I know its been super super super long. Its always on my mind everyday. I am really thinking about getting a crowdfunding campaign going so that I can have the time and funding to work on it whole heartedly again.
Mexicandude25 hyweewwezaG
Brother, when I saw it when I was 4 years old I never knew it was real, and I took it a lot as a "real incident" until today it was an animation, whose activity was to show his work, part of the Stickman fandom.
It was when the theme of the Second World War was popular, old times, those were the Stickman era, but also for this gentleman of the account.
Did this a long time ago in flash mx. I didnt know how to make good graphics yet at that time so I just traced bitmaps :B
still remember watching this so long ago
Out of the 254 comments I got, I value this one most :D
Nostalgia still hits hard
I loved this video please make a part two
2020, we need The Big Green 2
WHERE IS EPISODE 2 TELL ME
Part 2 on hmm.....
2074848 years
@@unknownhiddenname6645 nah he said 2019 lol
Though part 2 isn't releases yet He still heart comment mean he is still working on part 2 Keep up good work ;)
Thanks for all the nice comments guys, it helps keep the spirit of making the second episode alive. And yes, only 7000 views because other people have posted my Big Green 1 like Leasty27. If you guys can ask the others people of have posted it to take it down that would help me a lot. Again thanks all :)
@holycrapith
just imagine how long it would take for him to make something as good as this one, under the pressure that a lot of people are waiting for it, be patient.
Wheres part 2?
The machine gun from the German perspective really makes it sound like a war movie from 1998 called "saving private Ryan"
ITS BEEN 11 YEARS
All I will say is, 2019 is the year!
@@liquidcrow sad. we are waiting
2021 and I still love it
Well,next episode will be in 2034...Seriously,freaking movies are made quicker than part 2 of this...
They also spend millions making movies. Will you help fund the project or just complain? :D
+Ira Abando Animation cann you make it real not unreal 2 guns vs plane plane win to good armor
Back after 10 months cuz i forgot the name of this lol...Anyway,what software are you using to create this? (Sorry if i seemed a little aggresive there)
Your name tho
What an asshole comment i made 🙉 the animation's still great tho
I was 3 years old when this came out. Well hot damn!
I remember watching this since I was about 6-7 I think but now Im junior 11th grade in high school going to be 17 in 10 more days left so yeah I'll keep watching this one today and yeah my great memories how come back for me man lol great time. Almost being adult like 2 more year left. Oh and I've got 2 More year left to join United States Army infantry and national guard maybe us marines corps as well(maybe).
Rare Vlogs well say no more! You can become a United States Army Infantry soldier at the age of 17 through 24!
Thank you for taking the time to write a comment. It's always nice to know how this animation has been seen and appreciated by so many people, for such a long time. I really have to continue it, even though its been a long time.
Good luck to you though if you do decide to join the military!
You can't join all three my dude.
This is Awosome!!!
+Game Fast ::)c vc. kPhilly
almost 10 years later, still waiting
This was made 20 days before I was born
This is better then other d day stick man d day animation
nice remake of d-day and I like the name g-day because I like green
He hasn’t posted part 2 in 13 years, but he’s still hearting comments.
OK ILL WAIT 4000,000,000 YEARS ITS BEEN 11 YEARS M8
Truly appreciate your patience for waiting 4,000,000,000 years! But 2019 will be the year The Big Green 1 gets off the beach!
Ok ill just wait 1 more year and its dont
Done**
@@liquidcrow Oh yes, I remember watching this video 6 or 5 years ago.
I was 10 when this came out. Now I’m 20 and I’m still waiting for part 2!!!
Thank you for commenting. I know the Big Green 1 troops have been stuck on that beach for a very very very very very long time....but they will find a way... within this year! The grass will be 'greener' on the other side!
When part 2
this is probs the greatest stickfigure flash animation ever! goodjob
Hahaha I see this video like 90 times since 2008 to now... 2016... i want the second part, and i will waiting.
+lacrimi512
Even though the Big Green 1 squad has been stuck on the beach for a while, just know that they love you for the support XD
+Ira Abando Animation continue it -.-
:( second part pls
lacrimi512 people say he dead
lacrimi512
A
We can still wait for Episode 2
What the hell, u still living? I saw this 4 years ago :D
Mimzy Jaxon Its time for me to come back and finish what I started. Even if it has been years.
liquidcrow u should
Ira Abando Animation is it done yet?
This came out 10 days before I was born
2008 - 2018 Where part 2?
ตุลาพร เลื่องลือ, he favorited your comment, but I thought his channel was dead, I guess he's still working, probably it would take another year or more.
OK and I see his chanel is only this video
Legends still watch this in July 2024
Big Green luck :D
After 8 years this video appears in my recommendation again, and it's still to be continued lol
Hey liquidcrow, ever thought of Patreon? We could show our appreciation and support!
Noxen Mlg I was actually just looking through Patreon. I'm gonna set something up sometime this weekend or next week.
I gotta say, thank you. A lot of people just ask "When is it going to be done??? Is it ever going to be done???". You are the first to suggest a way to help me finish the second episode while showing support.
Thank you. =)
Noxen Mlg rjejejrjjr
Im surprised that the Bird Poop Helemt Soldier was alive until the hanger at the ending. PRETTY GOOD!
Hello 2019?
This is the year!
This is actually really cool
add British landings and canadans as well
Camera man : *GOD MODE ON*
To be Continued....10 years later.....DUDE!!! it's almost 2019
dammit its 2019 11 years
I agree With this guy
nigga
its December and just a month till 11 years
its 2019
dammit
Dude I miss this xD I wish you guys can continue
HOW R THE MEDICS SO FUCKIN LUCKY LOL
The_Lone Ranger_ In real life they weren't...
8 years and im still waiting
Somebody here 2019?
Yes! Not dead yet ^^
Holy shit this influenced me so much back then
Oh my god theres a comment i made here 6 years ago
Operation Overlord (D-day) in a nutshell.
what
OMG! dude!!! THIS IS SOOOO FUCKING AWESOME! I MEAN, LIKE THESE WORDS CAN'T DESCRIBE HOW AWESOME THIS IS!! dude, i admire you. AMAZING job! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to good to only have 7000 views!
Please make the big green 2
трансвормен XXX it takes time