Pro Tour Shadows over Innistrad Quarterfinals: Finkel vs. Mengucci & Scott-Vargas vs. Yasooka

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  • A trio of Hall of Famers plus a multiple Pro Tour Top 8 competitor highlight a stocked quarterfinals at Pro Tour Shadows over Innistrad.
    Jon Finkel (Seasons Past Control) vs. Andrea Mengucci (Bant Company) on one table while Luis Scott-Vargas (Black-Green Aristocrats) vs. Shota Yasooka (Esper Dragons) takes place nearby. It isn't possible to have much more star power on one stage at a time.
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  • @YourPalJamieEllis
    @YourPalJamieEllis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This is really a dream PT Top 8. So much star power, 8 different decks, format that's anything but stale and not wracked by bannings...we didn't know how good we had it.

  • @alexrohan6250
    @alexrohan6250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Watching this 4 years later, this was one of the best of all time pt top 8s. The players he mentioned are now the best in the world.

    • @thecyclamen9106
      @thecyclamen9106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The only player who didn't accomplish much won it.

    • @aeris2704
      @aeris2704 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      it is standard right?

    • @throwaway81818
      @throwaway81818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not to be a chav, but Finkel and LSV are some of the lifetime WPN point leaders, and Shota is one of the best control players of all time. They were best in the world a decade before this Top 8 lol. Mengucci did ascend here though.

    • @maxtobias6034
      @maxtobias6034 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i know Im randomly asking but does anybody know a trick to get back into an instagram account??
      I stupidly forgot my login password. I would appreciate any help you can give me.

    • @jadielhassan974
      @jadielhassan974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Max Tobias instablaster =)

  • @yohanesparuntu4980
    @yohanesparuntu4980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Imagine a standard where the top 8 were 8 different decks. Wow

    • @justabluedream
      @justabluedream 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      temur rec temur rec temur rec temur rec temur rec temur rec

    • @dicej18
      @dicej18 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justabluedream z,,,zz,zz,,z,,z,,,zzzzzzzz,,,,zz,zz,

    • @kylelenertz5509
      @kylelenertz5509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pro tour gatecrash

  • @ekteboi4179
    @ekteboi4179 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I was really hoping to see more of Finkels deck. That Season's Past from a Dark Petition is so juicy!

  • @andy4an
    @andy4an 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    drives me crazy that Andrea's shirt tag is sticking up!
    someone tuck it in!

  • @lucarr1041
    @lucarr1041 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So I went back to watch this after Marshall Sutcliffe mentioned the speed of these players, but I didn't expect turn 3 to be over in the time it takes me to Scry

  • @paradoxdriver4094
    @paradoxdriver4094 8 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    It broke my heart to see Finkel lose to Bant Company. :(

    • @Jaryism
      @Jaryism 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, agreed. But like even Finkel mentioned, Bant was the worst matchup for his deck, just all the permission completely shuts it down. But all the fans were praying fir that deck to win cause it’s fucking sweet.

  • @haku6506
    @haku6506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm here because LSV said coverage asked him and Yasooka to slow down their play

  • @fruscht
    @fruscht 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    47:57 "So he slogged his way through a Silumgar's Scorn, and all it cost him was a Hissing Quagmire". I just want to use that sentence in a conversation.

  • @Kiddomike
    @Kiddomike 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great to have Gaby Spartz on commentary! It's good to hear from someone new once in a while. However, I do miss LSV's commentary. On the other hand, it's great to see him on the pro-tour. I'm confused. Why you do this Wizards? LOL!

    • @decimai9028
      @decimai9028 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He commentates right after he gets eliminated! If you look at the semi finals games for this pro tour, hes in the commentating booth for the rest of the tournament. Such an awesome guy!

  • @martimcpff89
    @martimcpff89 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Innistrad is the sweetest plane in Magic

  • @thecitizen6860
    @thecitizen6860 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    its so weird to say this...... standard is the best format right now hands down

    • @Euclides287
      @Euclides287 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      How did standard go from being this healthy to broken cards like *Oko* and other simic degeneracy we see now? smh

    • @Sarpro72
      @Sarpro72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Cletus Spuckler Lack of serious thought in card design, while simultaneously forgetting every past card ever made.

    • @AB-sw4kb
      @AB-sw4kb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Euclides287 too many products being made each year, added focus on commander and direct-to-modern sets, etc. WOTC explicitly stated that their Play Design team at R&D had to adjust. WOTC also prioritized profits over the health of the game, as cliche as it is to say. in order to make sure new sets are selling, they have to reach a wide audience, so new cards being printed for standard are pushed harder and harder so that players who mostly play modern, legacy, vintage, commander, historic, pioneer, and other formats will buy cards from the new standard sets. tl;dr some of the game's deterioration is deliberate, some of it is an unfortunate side effect due to changes being passed down from leadership.

    • @vaals1942
      @vaals1942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Euclides287 this aged better than expected

  • @aarona7962
    @aarona7962 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    god I am loving that b/g aristocrats

    • @dkres82
      @dkres82 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      me too, I have a build that's similar thinking I might just go with this though.

  • @Dougao06
    @Dougao06 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Wow, that mana flood in Game 4 was one of worst I've ever seen. Rough!

  • @karmajarrule
    @karmajarrule 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Match 1 starts at 12:00

    • @LofiBuilds
      @LofiBuilds 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +dockdock 3000 thx fam, they just keep talking about the same freaking stuff over and over again its annoying 0_0

  • @reccaman
    @reccaman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    13:01 first land drop

  • @saullayman3899
    @saullayman3899 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you have the two dragonlords out? What about the legend rule?

  • @gregbartlett851
    @gregbartlett851 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    in game three shouldn't Shota Yasooka not get the zombies since they would have come in off of LSV sacing the sifters to husk and thus be there before the languish resolves? or did I LSV not sac the sifters?

    • @gregbartlett851
      @gregbartlett851 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Greg Bartlett nevermind, LSV did not sac the sifters so that Shota couldn't grow Kalitas. my bad.

  • @Karthedis
    @Karthedis 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    BG Aristocrats, Bant Company and Esper Dragons... yeah, I can't see this anymore. :/ I go back and play casual again. xD

  • @vonBelfry
    @vonBelfry 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Gaby seemed nervous at the start. Dunno why, she's better than a lot of the newer casters so far.

    • @nomukun1138
      @nomukun1138 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +vonBelfry Yeah, she was impressive. Very good knowledge of the format and the game in general. She never said anything stupid but she never left dead air, which can't be said for all the commentators!

  • @vinnyv2004
    @vinnyv2004 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yasooka is so good that the fact he isn't in the HOF is insane.

    • @AlbarionRed007
      @AlbarionRed007 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Wobbles 808 Wasn't he inducted last year?

    • @sibirdie
      @sibirdie 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yup Shota played so well with a diluted esper dragon deck.

    • @dkres82
      @dkres82 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +PoeHero yes he was they mentioned it during the opening.

    • @vinnyv2004
      @vinnyv2004 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +PoeHero oops yeah my bad :)

  • @evoluti0n09
    @evoluti0n09 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    52:00 why does shota get zombies? If lsv sacs his catacomb sifters in response to languish, the zombie tokens appear before languish resolves and then just get swept away by languish.

    • @devilboy561
      @devilboy561 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +evoluti0n09 if lsv sac'd in response to languish and shota got the zombies, then shota can sac a zombie to grow kalitas so that it survives languish which would be much worse than shota having two zombie tokens.

    • @ZaMazukiShimigami
      @ZaMazukiShimigami 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +devilboy561 that could have happened but then he would not have been able to kill the nantucko husk with the ultimate price. Gotta love having 6+ people watching plus the two players and not see the major play mistake that cost LSV that game.
      Correction: If you rewatch the play a few times, you will notice that LSV does notice that Kalitas would survive. He knew he could deal with the zombies better then the 5/6 kalitas

    • @devilboy561
      @devilboy561 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ZaMazukiShimigami im not sure i quite get what ur saying. But yea thats true, if he grew his kalitas, he cant ultimate price, but then you have a 5/6 kalitas vs a nantuko husk with nothing else on the board. Im quite confident that's a very bad situation to be in, considering kalitas is a lifelinker that blanks zuloport cutthroat's death triggers as well. Again, the line lsv chose is right since kalitas is a problem for his deck and what hes trying to do.

    • @Darklaw_
      @Darklaw_ 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +evoluti0n09 LSV shoulda won that game because We wouldn't have taken the 4 dmg from the zombies or had to chump it and would have had 5 creatures even win silumgar.

    • @devilboy561
      @devilboy561 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      SinisterXPikachu but then shota would have just ultimate price after he untaps? also kalitas has lifelink and would have hit for 5?, so shota would be gainin life putting him farther away from losing. Again, the whole point of that languish is to keep the creature count low on board so shota is well aware of westvale abbey n his gameplan was to make sure lsv cant transform it.

  • @Connor-pu5kl
    @Connor-pu5kl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did anyone else see Mengucci fake shuffle @1:23:20?

    • @digdug23
      @digdug23 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seems like he put all the lands from collect company on top and just hoped that finkel would just cut putting the lands in the middle, so that he wouldn't draw them

  • @willuda7098
    @willuda7098 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm an 0/2, I've got a job to do

  • @Fawnko
    @Fawnko 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why list the Finkel match first in the title yet show the LSV match first? Kinda bullshit if you ask me.

    • @jeromeofmarmite8914
      @jeromeofmarmite8914 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      LSV has a bigger following

    • @drop0ut606
      @drop0ut606 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jerome OfMarmite LSV is more active in the MTG scene nowadays, but Finkel is without a doubt more famous. There are people who don't even follow MTG at all who know who Johnny Magic is.

    • @SerraAngel107
      @SerraAngel107 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +SEKYHM I think it's also because they expected Finkel/Mengucci to go longer than LSV/Yasooka, because of how the decks play.

  • @afrose71
    @afrose71 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Finkle is Einhorn! Einhorn is Finkle!

  • @DreadGroove
    @DreadGroove 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't worry LSV, me and many others will continue the legacy and pure awesomeness of b/g sacrifice in many fnms (and game days) to come!

    • @kaylalosch7272
      @kaylalosch7272 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jamie Popay ...oh yay .. net deckers unite....

    • @DreadGroove
      @DreadGroove 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaylalosch7272 party pooper

  • @paupermages3860
    @paupermages3860 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Game 4, Shota probably should have attacked with one of the vents. Either Luis blocks and loses a creature, or he doesn't, going down to one life and disabling him from making more tokens with Westvale Abbey. In Aristocrats, if you have creatures to play and they might save you, you play them, so Shota could have read the signals and seen Luis had no extra creatures in hand to use for Westvale Abbey. Just some thoughts, obviously I'm not as good as these people, and it's easy to notice mistakes after they've already happened.

  • @kayssj2
    @kayssj2 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    why does Andrea have the Spanish flag in his CFB t-shirt?

    • @balangaz
      @balangaz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +KadizKovers because the PT was in Spain

  • @TimmytheSorcerer
    @TimmytheSorcerer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go John!

  • @nickfanzo
    @nickfanzo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A diverse top 8. Mtg needs to step is up in 2024. What happened?!

  • @Drecon84
    @Drecon84 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    At the end of the second game, Shota played a Silumgar. Shouldn't LSV have responded to that with his Collected Company? Getting a Husk and sacrificing the targeted creature seems better than losing it to the dragon.

    • @user-te6pr6te6l
      @user-te6pr6te6l 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      LSV couldn't do that as Silumgar would be on the stack and Shota could've changed the target

  • @narutoshippou
    @narutoshippou 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    When finkel infinite obliterations it seems bad to name reflector mage, especially with languish, the optimal card to name would likely be sylvan advocate or nissa seeing as they are more difficult for your deck to deal with and the bounce on mage isnt super relevant.

  • @elvishmystic1282
    @elvishmystic1282 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brood monitor would be a great finisher in LSV's deck

    • @jensvide777
      @jensvide777 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Elvish Mystic Naaah, would it really? I mean, sure, It gives you a lot of fuel for Husk and Cutthroat, but it's very expensive, which is very clunky in his deck where he almost always has mana to sink into other things. And imagine finding it with Collected Company. You could put something that would actually enter the battlefield in that spot instead.

    • @elvishmystic1282
      @elvishmystic1282 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +blue cheese cult ok but the ramp in this deck is insane as well

    • @jensvide777
      @jensvide777 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Elvish Mystic Sure, but what would it do that other cards doesn't do better?

  • @shawnthornton7971
    @shawnthornton7971 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    shouldn't Shoota not have had any zombies during Game 3 after the languish? LSV could've sac'd the two sifters to the husk, then languish resolves killing the zombies

    • @stefanweijers8417
      @stefanweijers8417 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Shawn Thornton If he did LSV would be blown out by counter spell on the languish from Shoota. I think that is why he did not.

  • @Padas100
    @Padas100 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    gogogo Esper Dragon !!!

    • @p.a.7170
      @p.a.7170 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Tô na Jungle br yup

  • @tonyquigley6543
    @tonyquigley6543 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    anyone else find it weird how Ian Duke has the EXACT same voice as his brother Reid DukE!?? freaks me out!

    • @yohanesparuntu4980
      @yohanesparuntu4980 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you not have siblings? I find most siblings of the same sex to have same voice

  • @benjiben223
    @benjiben223 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Dead WEIGHT will WEIGHT it down" lololol

  • @BlackPowderTherapist
    @BlackPowderTherapist 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't get why they can't just show the double video so we can watch both.

    • @kaylalosch7272
      @kaylalosch7272 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Eddie Davenport would be too small for the average computer screen and would be extremely difficult to call 2 matches at a time.

  • @returningwhisper
    @returningwhisper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    NOSTALGIA

  • @brandonhunnewell2431
    @brandonhunnewell2431 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    because the scry happens when a creature dies. but kalitas exiles creatures that WOULD die

  • @Minervastouch
    @Minervastouch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss pro play. Sucks to not see coverage but I guess standard would be boring as hell to watch anyways.

  • @Riley93362
    @Riley93362 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    why was silumgar's scorn able to counter the zulaport cutthroat couldn't luis just payed the 1 mana. Shota didn't reveal a dragon.

    • @williamstanton6126
      @williamstanton6126 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      i believe he controlled a dragon at that time

    • @andy4an
      @andy4an 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Riley Burns it straight out counters if you either reveal, or have a dragon in play. for the moment you are confused by, he had a dragon in play.

    • @Sha_Fermo
      @Sha_Fermo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Riley Burns "...or control a dragon as you cast silumgar's scorn." I'm paraphrasing because I am too lazy to go back...but yeah.

  • @AP-lf7xd
    @AP-lf7xd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gaby is to magic is what princess leia is to star wars, the only girl in the galaxy.

  • @brandonhunnewell2431
    @brandonhunnewell2431 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    luis should not have scryed when shota had kalitas out and when shota languished.

    • @TheSquirrelbeast
      @TheSquirrelbeast 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Brandon Hunnewell Read the card. Kalitas exiles nontoken creatures only.

    • @brandonhunnewell2431
      @brandonhunnewell2431 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Adolfo Berríos i reread it. i misread it at first. my bad on my end

  • @aquanecromancer5776
    @aquanecromancer5776 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a guy in the comments using sock puppet accounts to make sexist comments. He has two accounts, Tony Quigley and Anthony Quigley. Both have multiple sexist comments about Gabby Spartz. Really weird.

  • @fahmiinabdullah
    @fahmiinabdullah 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Unfortunate that both b/g decks are paired with their worst match up. Both Esper and Company decks are the worst in the pro tour compared to b/g which LSV and Finkel just crushes everyone in swiss, yet they couldn't make it past quarterfinals.

  • @Arizona9001
    @Arizona9001 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    didn't LSV steal cards?

  • @ForcesNL
    @ForcesNL 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't like this as a gathering online player. I mean, why the beep are there no lands? Decks get too big, or is that not the authentic game? I would love to play out the door with real-life decks, but with lands it would be alot more interesting...

    • @ForcesNL
      @ForcesNL 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...... oke. Point out ot me where you see a land on the table. Because I checked the whole video again, and I couldn't find 1.

  • @shanegedekoh121
    @shanegedekoh121 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beta vs Guru basics [kreygasm]

  • @EloquentTroll
    @EloquentTroll 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do they run concurrent matches in a single video? Seperate it out, I'm trying to do research and as much as I love John Finkel I'm trying to watch aristocrats vs. esper dragons, and you're wasting my time.

  • @p.a.7170
    @p.a.7170 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    2nd

  • @darklaw7635
    @darklaw7635 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This Video was recommended to me. This was way before I began playing mtg. I find these decks bad.... So weird.. Everything is weak to clarion

    • @lucarr1041
      @lucarr1041 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not entirely sure if clarion would work as well as all that, most of the go wide decks seems to build back pretty quickly (or in the case of aristocrats, sacs their board for value anyway).

  • @HIWTYLSL
    @HIWTYLSL 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really hope the company doesn't win; I don't like that deck

  • @jamesvoakes3568
    @jamesvoakes3568 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    LSV worst player ever in this top 8

  • @antonyquigley5219
    @antonyquigley5219 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did he just say "Co Co" for collected company? Thats it, i'm done with this game.

    • @jacemtg5094
      @jacemtg5094 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's been slang for a while...

    • @antonyquigley5219
      @antonyquigley5219 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      JaceMTG
      Man i can't play this game anymore. Pussy is scarce enough in the world as it is with all this womens rights shit going on, adding shit like this onto an already CRAZILY geeky and expensive hobby can do nothing other than push the vagina more and more back into to it's holy grail / cave. I don't have tha much faith!

    • @PokeBattlerJaze
      @PokeBattlerJaze 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Believe it or not, the vast majority of people I play MTG with regularly are married.

    • @antonyquigley5219
      @antonyquigley5219 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jamaree Medford
      exactly? bored off their tits, it's either this, or in the river with a pair of concrete shoes on

    • @PokeBattlerJaze
      @PokeBattlerJaze 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Antony Quigley ...What?

  • @antonyquigley5219
    @antonyquigley5219 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hm, i wonder why Gaby Spartz is one of the on camera hosts? Hm... Maybe it's her unrivaled knowledge of the game? Fickle. Not finkle... pun. Like she says it herself "This is Gaby Sprarts (no accolades) with Pro tour Hall of Famer Name.
    EDIT* I take it back, she actually knows more than the Hall of fame guy... wow

  • @tonyquigley6543
    @tonyquigley6543 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anyone else think the only reason Gaby is sitting there and has her job as Tournament director or monitor is because of she knows a bit about MTG but mainly her looks? its pretty obvious. there's 99% male player basin MTG (it actually is 99/1 in favor of men) yet you want me to believe they chose her because she was more talented and knew more about magic than 1000's of other guys who wanted the job? bs lol