The big issue of ferra/torr is just lack of much actual character. They were designed as a unique character for gameplay but in story they just kind of exist.
As a Ferra Torr main, Ferra getting knocked off on every tap along with the inconsistent return time was frustrating, but it was still fun and Ferras taunts were top tier. There was so much backlash on freddy but then he turns out to be such a solid character, the best of the guest characters IMO.
because of that thats why i used the variation that didnt have ferra. Prolly wasnt as good as the others but I avoided not being able to do combos because ferra aint run back to me yet.
I love how one of my favorites Ferra/Torr is finally getting talked about, and apparently it's because their actually amazing in MKX which is awesome :D
I still remember playing as Meat at home, thinking I had just finally found a character that clicked with me, but nobody at school wanted to play against Meat because he was broken. Womp womp
I'm a simple man. I see my favourite MK character Ferra/Torr in the thumbnail and I click. I wish Drahmin would come back. He's the one 3D era MK character that I'd love to play. Love my monsters and freaks in fighting games.
I have been subscribed since somewhere around the MKX days, and I love this content that celebrates every facet of Mortal Kombat. You give fair attention to the arcade, 3D, and Neatherealm eras, which is appreciated. What is even more appreciated is that it is non-toxic content! Your love for the series is so palpable, it makes every video an enjoyable experience regardless of the subject.
Honourable mention could go to pre-MKX Bo' Rai Cho Top 3 in DA and Deception, probably still top 10 in Armageddon because his tools barely changed, and in those days he was seen as an uber-joke character
Kobra is one I don't often pay no mind when I first played Deception, but after then trying him out I actually genuinely like his gameplay. You think for a character that's a blatant ripoff of a certain Street Fighter that also has fiery kicks would be consider also popular in Mortal Kombat for some reason! Unfortunately that doesn't much help given his writing in the narrative story of the game. It's a shame tho cause I would like to see him return in MK1 as either a kameo or even a playable character again.
Funny thing is when it comes to 1st ever Guest Characters i wonder about Cobra being one just more intagrated with the plot considering he could be a Karate Kid refference in name and look with Cobra Kai being a thing. Food for Thought
@@kdlsimondistefan47 Kobra was based on Johnny Lawrence who was leader student of the Cobra Kai in the 80's movie "The Karate Kid". I understand they called him being Ken Masters as a placeholder name (Ben) in the development of MK Deception from the official Xbox magazine, but Ed Boon and Midway/NRS developers never said Kobra was a reference to Ken. I keep preferring him being based on the Cobra Kai.
This is why I LOVE your channel. You ACTUALLY KNOW what you're talking about! Drahmin has always been one of my favorites and people downplay him cuz... reasons? 🤷♂️
So heartwarming to see so much Ferra/Torr love in the comments. I thought like I was in the minority, in terms of appreciating their design, playstyle, voice lines, lore, basically everything about them is a little special. Glad to see they might have a bigger following than I expected 😊
Absolutely LOVED Ferra/Torr. I was bummed when they didn’t return and when their story kind of made it harder to bring them back. Who knows now though, since the MK1 reset.
Ferra/Torr were by far my fave pick in X. I'm quite interested in seeing how exactly 1's season pass brings Ferra back as an assist. Then again I always did find my self drawn to the weird monster types. The Mishimas, the shotos, the colour-coded ninjas, they're all super popular choices for a good reason - they tend to be damn strong all round. On the flip side, that super popularity means you get in a LOT more practice against them than they do against the freak picks.
Freddy was well known of being amazing in MK9. Whether you put effort or not, he was still top 5. Skarlet though? That one was the character that required lots of effort to showcase how good it was and was extremely unpopular given the technical level it required to be played.
I absolutely *loved* both Ferra/Torr and Drahmin. They're definitely two of the most unique characters in the entire franchise, hands-down. I'm not surprised but still bummed all the same that they've since been absent from the most recent games (I always knew that they were very easy characters to cut). With all that being said, though, I will always hold out hope that they'll return to the roster proper one day...
I don’t know why but out of all the Characters in this List that I love to play, Ferra/Torr is my Least Favorite that I feel Bored Playing with them with Meh Designs, X-Rays, and Fatalities similar to Kung Jin.
I won't be surprised if Ferra will add the Pain and Gain special to MK1 when she returns as a Kameo, if this happens she can make everyone have a huge damage output like Ferra/Torr had in MKX. Speaking of, I still remember the 3-input 50% combo that Ferra/Torr could do in MKX, that's F2,S4 X-Ray. It was so fun to do it in single player modes.
Meat is one of my favorite MK Characters unironically. Bro just wrestles, throws his own head, and hits you with meat cleavers. He's practically a parody character and I love it. I think he should make a comeback.
Ferra/Tor was my absolute favorite character in X, was so happy to see such an interesting big bodied character come into MK. Have always loved playing grapplers/big slow hard hitters.
Sonya’s weapon stance was one of the reasons why she was top tier??? I thought it was cause of her cheap mix-ups, tae kwon do, kiss and power up/reversal she had?
I really liked Ferra\Torr, but the problem was I liked a huge chunk of the MKX roster. I liked Kitana, Mileena, Tanya, Alien, Predator, Goro, Cassie, Jacqui, Sonya, Tremor…. And Ferra/Torr.
"Meat" was actually a skin in MK4, or so was intended. U had 2 do some kinda "group mode" with all da characters 2 unlock him and if u lost with him he'd re-lock an' u had 2 go thru dat process again!
I was never into MK competitively, especially during the Armageddon days, but Meat was my main, despite not knowing about the infinite command grabs lol
Meat was one of my favorites to play in Armageddon. Hitting a combo with that move that bounces himself off the ground felt so great. Give my meat the love it deserves people… 😏
Drahmin is to me the most underrated character in MK visually by far, for me personally he’s super interesting and I never understood why I was alone in that train of thought
I think maybe Kobra would have been more popular if he had his hood up, to draw attention of its cobra-like design (an underappreciated detail) and not having to look at his He-man haircut. I appreciated Kobra for what he was, he was easily one of the best animated characters in games he was in, had one of coolest special moves in Windmill Kick and actually sort of stood out as a fairly no-frills martial artist among all the weirdoes and freaks typical of MK. In a way he reminds me of Rig, another hoodie-wearing baddie using fairly normal-but-aesthetically-pleasing-nevertheless martial arts in a game that had all kinds of fantasy bullshit.
I think character loyalty played a huge part. MK9 was the return of characters we hadn't played or seen in many years. people were way too busy playing their original fav characters than care about a guest back in those days.
Surprised you didn't bring up the drahmin infinite in da considering only bo and him have one in that game so they Stand out really heavily,regardless great video and work as always! Cheers 🥂
Id like to give a shout out to mk9 kabal, without history and playing through the game for the first time who tf would wanna play as this burn victim with low damage, subby normals and slow grounded projectiles, especially with such badass characters like cyber subzero lol
Ferra/Torr were easily the most interesting character introduced in the modern era. Cool lore, fun gameplay, and great variety..... so of course they got scrapped and only Ferra is back as a Kameo. Sigh.....
Nah, but you see, Jacqui and D'Vorah needed to be in the next game so they could be just as lame and boring as they were in the last game and get no development.
@@gogoyubari5948 Jacqui could have been cool if she wasn't literally just young girl Jax. And D'Vorah has a cool idea, but is insanely boring as a character.
@@generalstorm8381 At least Jacqui's involvement in the story just made Jax more interesting. His contrast between his happy past self and his worried yet proud present self was pretty much my favourite thing in MK11's story mode… but maybe I'm biased because I just love Jax in general.
Listen I really like Kobra as a a character except for his story, the only negative thing I can say about his game play is his Fatalities. I've always wanted them to bring him back and not have him be a joke character...
I've always thought that Freddy had bad luck appearing in MK9 and not X or 11, games where every fight begins with a bit of added banter which was always his forte as a villain, while most of the slashers who made it into these games ended up being the silent ones with little to offer in that regard.
@@finalgwen Very true. It will most likely never happen, but Freddy should absolutely be in a future MK game, out of all DLC chars he deserves it the most.
I like how three of the characters are from the 3D era. Ferra/Torr was an interesting character, I'd like to see them return.
The big issue of ferra/torr is just lack of much actual character. They were designed as a unique character for gameplay but in story they just kind of exist.
@@just_a_tepig3611 Well MK1 is the perfect chance with the world being reset to give them a good story.
@@13YoJest13 yeah but they'd have to change one of the two to actually speak properly.
@@13YoJest13Sadly, only Ferra is returning in MK1. And... She's a kameo
@@bruuuuuuuuhhhh That’s super trash, I didn’t know she was only a Kameo but Indhould have guessed, as disappointing as this game has been
Ferra & Torr were the character I played in MKX
They feel the most monstrous out of the cast, and I liked the dynamic, very fun.
I just like playing big characters in games, any games really. Ferra torr fit that so freaking well.
It was my Favorite in MKX too!
As a Ferra Torr main, Ferra getting knocked off on every tap along with the inconsistent return time was frustrating, but it was still fun and Ferras taunts were top tier. There was so much backlash on freddy but then he turns out to be such a solid character, the best of the guest characters IMO.
because of that thats why i used the variation that didnt have ferra. Prolly wasnt as good as the others but I avoided not being able to do combos because ferra aint run back to me yet.
@@HunterofWaifus I sort of mained Lackey but god did he struggle with some match ups. That's why I picked up Vicious
Playing with Ferra Tor is like being a Fallout 3 fan. You know it's the worst of the 3d era but at least it's not Fallout 76 bad😂😂😂
You aren’t a ferra torr main ..
You gotta make an Injustice version of this. Characters like Zatanna, Lobo, Swamp Thing, Gorilla Grodd, etc.. were so hype to watch at high level.
Ummmm HAWKGIRL?
I actually really liked playing Drahmin in Armageddon as a kid, and he became one of my favorite characters. Shame he never really came back though
I’m still holding onto hope
I love how one of my favorites Ferra/Torr is finally getting talked about, and apparently it's because their actually amazing in MKX which is awesome :D
Drahmin is super wacky, I'd love to see how they bring him to a modern MK game, even as a kameo in mk1
I still remember playing as Meat at home, thinking I had just finally found a character that clicked with me, but nobody at school wanted to play against Meat because he was broken. Womp womp
Gosh, same. I loved Meat in Armageddon; probably my favorite my character in the whole game.
Ferra Torr was awesome loved playing with this tagteam char
I'm a simple man. I see my favourite MK character Ferra/Torr in the thumbnail and I click.
I wish Drahmin would come back. He's the one 3D era MK character that I'd love to play. Love my monsters and freaks in fighting games.
I have been subscribed since somewhere around the MKX days, and I love this content that celebrates every facet of Mortal Kombat. You give fair attention to the arcade, 3D, and Neatherealm eras, which is appreciated. What is even more appreciated is that it is non-toxic content! Your love for the series is so palpable, it makes every video an enjoyable experience regardless of the subject.
Honourable mention could go to pre-MKX Bo' Rai Cho
Top 3 in DA and Deception, probably still top 10 in Armageddon because his tools barely changed, and in those days he was seen as an uber-joke character
Kobra is one I don't often pay no mind when I first played Deception, but after then trying him out I actually genuinely like his gameplay. You think for a character that's a blatant ripoff of a certain Street Fighter that also has fiery kicks would be consider also popular in Mortal Kombat for some reason! Unfortunately that doesn't much help given his writing in the narrative story of the game.
It's a shame tho cause I would like to see him return in MK1 as either a kameo or even a playable character again.
It’s fun seeing niche characters get played
Funny thing is when it comes to 1st ever Guest Characters i wonder about Cobra being one just more intagrated with the plot considering he could be a Karate Kid refference in name and look with Cobra Kai being a thing. Food for Thought
He's a reference to Ken Masters from Street Fighter actually
@@kdlsimondistefan47 it could be both tho but ok sure
@@kdlsimondistefan47 this is actually a kommon miskonception, he's a Kobra Kai reference
@@kdlsimondistefan47 Kobra was based on Johnny Lawrence who was leader student of the Cobra Kai in the 80's movie "The Karate Kid". I understand they called him being Ken Masters as a placeholder name (Ben) in the development of MK Deception from the official Xbox magazine, but Ed Boon and Midway/NRS developers never said Kobra was a reference to Ken. I keep preferring him being based on the Cobra Kai.
This is why I LOVE your channel. You ACTUALLY KNOW what you're talking about! Drahmin has always been one of my favorites and people downplay him cuz... reasons? 🤷♂️
So heartwarming to see so much Ferra/Torr love in the comments. I thought like I was in the minority, in terms of appreciating their design, playstyle, voice lines, lore, basically everything about them is a little special. Glad to see they might have a bigger following than I expected 😊
Reading the comments makes it feel like they’re not a minority LOL
Absolutely LOVED Ferra/Torr. I was bummed when they didn’t return and when their story kind of made it harder to bring them back. Who knows now though, since the MK1 reset.
Ferra/Torr were by far my fave pick in X. I'm quite interested in seeing how exactly 1's season pass brings Ferra back as an assist.
Then again I always did find my self drawn to the weird monster types. The Mishimas, the shotos, the colour-coded ninjas, they're all super popular choices for a good reason - they tend to be damn strong all round. On the flip side, that super popularity means you get in a LOT more practice against them than they do against the freak picks.
Kobra was by far my best character in Deception. I never lost a match to the CPU using him on every difficulty and even Onaga was no match for him.
Freddy was well known of being amazing in MK9. Whether you put effort or not, he was still top 5. Skarlet though? That one was the character that required lots of effort to showcase how good it was and was extremely unpopular given the technical level it required to be played.
Glad to see the Ferra Torr love, still my favorite MK character I have ever played!
I absolutely *loved* both Ferra/Torr and Drahmin. They're definitely two of the most unique characters in the entire franchise, hands-down. I'm not surprised but still bummed all the same that they've since been absent from the most recent games (I always knew that they were very easy characters to cut). With all that being said, though, I will always hold out hope that they'll return to the roster proper one day...
I don’t know why but out of all the Characters in this List that I love to play, Ferra/Torr is my Least Favorite that I feel Bored Playing with them with Meh Designs, X-Rays, and Fatalities similar to Kung Jin.
Ferra torr has a +4 on block uppercut......think about that, an uppercut you cannot punish and you can get punished for trying
Ferra/Tor was Sick i love the Uniques and the Design. I like when characters are different. Also loved watchign people play Ferra/Tor
I won't be surprised if Ferra will add the Pain and Gain special to MK1 when she returns as a Kameo, if this happens she can make everyone have a huge damage output like Ferra/Torr had in MKX. Speaking of, I still remember the 3-input 50% combo that Ferra/Torr could do in MKX, that's F2,S4 X-Ray. It was so fun to do it in single player modes.
Meat is one of my favorite MK Characters unironically.
Bro just wrestles, throws his own head, and hits you with meat cleavers. He's practically a parody character and I love it.
I think he should make a comeback.
Ferra/Tor was my absolute favorite character in X, was so happy to see such an interesting big bodied character come into MK. Have always loved playing grapplers/big slow hard hitters.
I personally like playing Cobra in Mortal Kombat Deception! 👊🏻🎮🐉🦂🦂🦂✌🏻
Sonya’s weapon stance was one of the reasons why she was top tier??? I thought it was cause of her cheap mix-ups, tae kwon do, kiss and power up/reversal she had?
I love the constant churn of random MK content and topics on this channel
Can’t wait for the Ferra kameo in mk1, it’s finally gonna give me a permanent kameo and I’ll start actively playing the game again.
Ferra Torr was my first mkx main and I loved using them for the longest time. Then Jason got released then i discovered Erron Black and Takeda
MK9 Freddy is my absolute favourite zoner of all time to play in MK games.
Yeah that true no one play,s the Mii in super smash bros but they are awesome and it about what moves you pick
love the choice of tekken music in the background
I really liked Ferra\Torr, but the problem was I liked a huge chunk of the MKX roster. I liked Kitana, Mileena, Tanya, Alien, Predator, Goro, Cassie, Jacqui, Sonya, Tremor….
And Ferra/Torr.
Nice video. Maybe you could do "most innovative character" video, focusing on characters that introduced innovative gameplay concepts.
I seem to remember Kobra could easily shred Onaga without much hassle.
I wonder if he would have fared better if he wasn't "Ken but MK"?
MK Meta: Deception when??
:)
Ferra Torr was cool especially because it had a different body type. Almost every character in MK11 has the same human style basic body.
I feel bad that some of the new characters from x never returned. I thought they'd be nice consistent editions.
Outside DLC, none of them!
Yes Takeda, F/T and Kung Jin were so fun
"Meat" was actually a skin in MK4, or so was intended. U had 2 do some kinda "group mode" with all da characters 2 unlock him and if u lost with him he'd re-lock an' u had 2 go thru dat process again!
Been playing since the first game and Ferra/Torr is in my top 3 favourite characters of all time, probably in the number 2 spot.
Hsu Hao finally gets a small shred of recognition. And it’s for Meat. Dude will never not be dunked on.
How about characters that were super hyped but fell flat
A Kobra Kameo where he’s just Ryu/Ken would be pretty funny. I don’t think a fireball or tatsu are under copy write.
Kobra being a high level character?? I can't believe it! The fake Ken was actually good? 😂
I was never into MK competitively, especially during the Armageddon days, but Meat was my main, despite not knowing about the infinite command grabs lol
We need the Deception meta 👏🏽
Meat was one of my favorites to play in Armageddon. Hitting a combo with that move that bounces himself off the ground felt so great. Give my meat the love it deserves people…
😏
Ty always for the amazing content 👏🤝
Just starting the video, but wanted to put down a guess....Cyrax. Okay, time to watch!
Nice Tekken Tag 1 BGM at 1:10 👌🏻😎
MEAT IS THE BEST MK CHARACTER EVER AND I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL
Drahmin is to me the most underrated character in MK visually by far, for me personally he’s super interesting and I never understood why I was alone in that train of thought
Am I crazy for thinking that NRS should license Martin Kove's voice and likeness to bring Kobra back in MK1?
I used to play MKX with a friend and he used to kill me with Ferra/Torr. It was his favorite pick lol
Ferra Torr and Kollector are my all times faves. Sucks that we probably will never see them again
Ferra/Torr compete more difficult to providing extra damage and wall grab in tournament play
I LOVE Kobra.
Been waiting for a Drahmin return for ages.
I think maybe Kobra would have been more popular if he had his hood up, to draw attention of its cobra-like design (an underappreciated detail) and not having to look at his He-man haircut. I appreciated Kobra for what he was, he was easily one of the best animated characters in games he was in, had one of coolest special moves in Windmill Kick and actually sort of stood out as a fairly no-frills martial artist among all the weirdoes and freaks typical of MK. In a way he reminds me of Rig, another hoodie-wearing baddie using fairly normal-but-aesthetically-pleasing-nevertheless martial arts in a game that had all kinds of fantasy bullshit.
Im definitley guilty of overlooking ferra/tor and kobra
Personally I think Kobra deserves to come back.
Ken was my favorite sf character as a kid so of course i played kobra
It’s really odd that the horror icon Freddy Krueger was unpopular
I think character loyalty played a huge part. MK9 was the return of characters we hadn't played or seen in many years. people were way too busy playing their original fav characters than care about a guest back in those days.
Surprised you didn't bring up the drahmin infinite in da considering only bo and him have one in that game so they Stand out really heavily,regardless great video and work as always! Cheers 🥂
ferra torr was so fun, i actually miss that character
Dont understand how nobody liked freddy f*"king Krueger, it really shows who us real weirdo introverts are lol
Ferra/Torr was my favorite character in MKX its a shame they will never bring them back :(
Ferra/Torr were obvious Mad Max rejects but they were fun to play and watch! Can't wait to see Ferra Kameo in MK1
Id like to give a shout out to mk9 kabal, without history and playing through the game for the first time who tf would wanna play as this burn victim with low damage, subby normals and slow grounded projectiles, especially with such badass characters like cyber subzero lol
Adored (and mained) Drahmin and Meat in the 3D era. Hopefully both return at some point.
As a couch with friends casual
Fara-tor was my favorite troll pic.
Ferra/Torr my beloveds
Ferra/Torr were easily the most interesting character introduced in the modern era. Cool lore, fun gameplay, and great variety..... so of course they got scrapped and only Ferra is back as a Kameo. Sigh.....
Nah, but you see, Jacqui and D'Vorah needed to be in the next game so they could be just as lame and boring as they were in the last game and get no development.
@@generalstorm8381Jacqui and D'vorah were amazing, what the heck are you talking about?
@@gogoyubari5948 Jacqui could have been cool if she wasn't literally just young girl Jax. And D'Vorah has a cool idea, but is insanely boring as a character.
@@generalstorm8381 At least Jacqui's involvement in the story just made Jax more interesting. His contrast between his happy past self and his worried yet proud present self was pretty much my favourite thing in MK11's story mode… but maybe I'm biased because I just love Jax in general.
@@thebestonumeritos Nah, Jax was really interesting in MK11.
MK Kobra = the FIRST ever COBRA KAI character coincidentally & inadvertently created by MK creators :P OOPS
Interesting that the last pick is there... would we see a Competitive History of them in the near future by chance?
ferra tor main here, god bless u sir someone knows
Bring back my boy Torr!
Freddie’s MK9 design was so disappointing.
I love Drahmin. I will bat for him.
Love to finally see some fara torr love
Using Tekken music in a mortal Kombat video? I Respect It
Drahmin is unpopular? I love him
Listen I really like Kobra as a a character except for his story, the only negative thing I can say about his game play is his Fatalities. I've always wanted them to bring him back and not have him be a joke character...
I like ur voice it’s soothing
Drahmin is INCREDIBLY a overhated and underrated. It’s honestly ashame
I hope Drahmin and Kobra return, at least as Kameos
I LOVED ferra torr everything about them
Competitive history of Liu Kang please!!!
I still really hate Freddy and it’s weird. My favorite slasher, my favorite fighting game you’d think I’d love it but no.
Concept vs Execution can be brutally divided at times
I've always thought that Freddy had bad luck appearing in MK9 and not X or 11, games where every fight begins with a bit of added banter which was always his forte as a villain, while most of the slashers who made it into these games ended up being the silent ones with little to offer in that regard.
@@finalgwen Very true. It will most likely never happen, but Freddy should absolutely be in a future MK game, out of all DLC chars he deserves it the most.
@@finalgwen yeah hes more about the mind games (his setting IS in a Nightmare after all)
Missed opportunity to finally put Hawkgirl in one of these
I never noticed Freddy has 2 gloves in mk9
Freddy looks awesome, kindof reminds me of current Shang
Dranmin could work as a Kytinn warrior in the new mortal kombat.
Sorry to bother, but mortal kombat unchained was on psp. I still have the disc. Great port!
Ferra and Torr need to come back.