Why MK vs DC Was Such A DIVISIVE Game
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The year after this game launched, one of my younger cousins passed away. That December all of our family spent mostly every day and night my mom's house. My older cousin brought his 360 and this game. We spent the entire holiday season playing through the story and having mini tournaments.
This MK game brought us all together in a terrible time. I love this game.
I feel u there man. Video games sometimes are more than just a pastime.
1 of my closest friends had this game and he passed away in 2014. I play this game and SVR11 to tribute him
@@HavenKnight93 sometimes it's more than a game🫡
That's awesome! Happy there are warm memories.
As far as Supes goes, he is not so much 'weak' against magic, moreso he has no innate defenses against magic. As such, the magic would affect him like any other person without any special defenses against them. This is, of course, different from Kryptonite, which Superman is actually weak to.
THIS
Oh yeah, he could probably tank attacks a bit better because of his durability, but magic can mess with him.
That’s like saying I’m not weak to bullets, they just affect the same way they affect everyone else.
@@BIadelores Contextually speaking, what you said is similar to what I said, but what you said sounds like it implies you know some aliens, specters, otherworldly beings, etc.
For me MK vs DC still has my favorite version of Sub-Zero gameplay wise. He has such a fun kit between the parry that turned into a command grab when juggled, that badass coffin drop teleport, and that funny ice ceiling move. Absolute blast to play even today.
That teleport was so TOUGH aesthetically speaking 😮💨
I think MK vs DC has my favorite Sub-Zero design.
@aryelrosa4829 That too, just expanded on his look in DA and made it better imo
Sub with a teleport? No wonder he was top tier😂
Yeah sub zero is so sick in this game
Superman is vulnerable to magic which is why Batman is very wary about his existence. If magic is meant to have a certain effect superman can be affected by it because all he has is physical resistance.
Your comment confuses me. Why is Batman wary of Superman? And if magic has an effect Superman is affected? Are you saying the magic only effects him because the story says it needs to?
@@MJH72996Nah Supes has a canon weakness to magic, one of his most important enemies is a reality warping elf for that reason.
@@MJH72996 don't know what really confuses you about his comment, he pretty much just said that Superman has _physical_ invulnerability, magic is not a fisical weapon/attack but more like... Spiritual or something which is why it has an effect on Superman, therefore making him canonically weak/vulnerable to magic.
In the brave and the bold episode triumvirate or terror cheetah beats superman using a magival artifact for instance.
@@MJH72996I get what you mean. Batmans not magical
Anybody remember how tore up Sonya shirt used to get lol. Good times
Lol frl she went from triple d’s to b cups 😂
When this game came out I thought the heroic brutalities were very lame cause there was no gore or dismemberment. Now that I am older and lost my taste for fatalities I now realize that Green Lantern broke every bone in Lex's body and probably killed him in the process. That is sick
Oh green lanterns most definitely killed him. The body isn’t even moving afterwards!
Right? The fatalities are just so played out now. I look at just about every like 🙄
😂
I prefer the short & sweet fatals myself, as well as the brutals. There are a few I really enjoy still 😂
@chiarosuburekeni9325 nothing like seeing copious amount of blood to the point it looks like a septic tank getting emptied.
I try not to say this often because I don't like ragging on pretty much any fighting game, fighting games forever. However, I find it interesting that the way you described movement as being too complex to feel satisfying is exactly how I feel about every "run button" in every MK 😅
That Wonder Woman leg twirl animation will always be hilarious.
It’s like they just threw a ragdoll across the screen and called it a day 😂
Loved the video ❤
This was the first MK game that me, my brother, and my dad all played together because of the T rating (my brother was very young). I remember trying to find the fatalities and being dissapointed and the throw minigames eventually got banned in our family because since we were noobs it was upsured amount of damage since we couldn't do real combos. But even though we sucked, we knew this wasn't a good game but we enjoyed it to the fullest
a little observation on Pro Moves I noticed was: MK11 tried to bring them back by having Enhanced specials be tied to different inputs as opposed to the Injustice Style of just pressing enhance... but everyone hated it so they went back to the Injustice style lol Just an example of a mechanic that was interesting for its time
I said the same thing! Wonder what would have been
I hope to see competitive history of Shang Tsung
It's coming
Garbage in every game except DA, 9 and 11. Not sure about 12.
@@Euro.Patriot He was actually mid tier in MK2
@@the757general2 Is it because he could morph or because of his fireskulls?
Oddly enough this is one of my favorite MKs. I'm an 09er and was exploring every game at the time (shoutouts to SF4) and MKvsDCU still had a decent fanbase playing late into 2009-early 2010. While there were a few people that trolled with infinites ALL the time, there were a good amount of people that played the game for some good matches.
Why did I like it? a mixture of nostalgia, as well as having a huge sense of satisfaction for completing all the combo trials. I'm a firm believer this game's crazy combos helped improve my execution to this day.
What I remember the most about MK vs. DC was the time before the game got announced.
Basically, there was a whole thing where hints were dropped through numbers and whatnot. So the people that cared took those and some concept art that seemed to give the image of a serious and dark game as an upcoming title with less characters or a flat-out reboot. It was actually rather neat to return from school and see what was coming. Then one day, a render of Scorpion's face shows up on Boon's site looking forward to the right which I remember being the most hyped the forum I was at got about the whole thing.
It lasted a whole day when that image got completed with... Batman looking at him. Don't think I've ever seen expectations cool that hard so fast.
This game is a childhood classic to me, I mained Baracka and all my friends hated me for it
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Fun Fact: Stage transition combat was planned for Mortal Kombat Deception before it was in this game.
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What in the jank was that💀
how did i miss that the first time🤣
I'm a huge DC head as well as massive MK head so this game was an instant purchase at release. My first and fondest memories of playing a fighting game semi-seriously was this game. No tier whoring, no money hungry guys like the current state of NRS scene, just a couple of friends and randoms who would become friends doing F10 exhibitions and beef sets trying to get the most of this game. I had so many memories of Joker in this game and this game might still have my favorite version of Sub-Zero in terms of gameplay (and voice acting tbh). It's the most "2D" of the 3D era and yes, the content is nonexistent outside of towers and story (F those combo challenges) but there's still some fun I can still have and this game's existence would lead to the renaissance of MK that we're still kinda in now with the lighting in a bottle that was MK9 and for that, I'm forever grateful of this game.
Despite the controversies this game carried, one thing loved were the mk outfits. Specifically, scorpion's outfit looked cool, as well as Subzero and kitana
Agreed. Sadly though ppl nowadays whine and cry if the female characters look like and dress like they did back then!😮
Yeah Scorpion's outfit in this game was amazing. I still remember back then when I saw it for the first time and I was amazed by it.
@@jt_no_money2381 don't even open that can of worms lmao
@@trashcan7594Lmao!😂
@@jt_no_money2381 it's kinda funny you said this considering its a tame and not revealing outfit. if you wanna own "the libs" maybe dont go off that example lmao
I love Sub-Zero's costume in this game, I really liked the refference to it they gave to Cryomancer in MKX
He had the ice arms in all the 3D games tbf
@@NoName-cz3wnnot in deception
@@aydenbaldwin3041I think his alt had it, unless I'm getting confused with MKDA
@aydenbaldwin3041 you're right I think he just had it in the iconic render
@@vilek_7235 yeah, you're mixing up MKDA and MKD. His alt in Deception is ponytail sub zero
interesting how many of these character designs were directly carried over into MK9
Not all sadly
If the Hero finishers were just called a "Brutality" that would've been better than the awkwardly sanitized implications of "Heroic Brutality".
I loved playing this game with my cousin. We use to love the rock, paper, scissor game and mashing all the buttons when you ran someone through a wall.
I liked this game a lot. Its actually the game i remember the most when thinking of MK.
Especially the story. I played throigh the story countless time just because i enjoyed it.
Imagine labbing offline, and then lex infinites you online.
I’m sorry but the joker chapter is one of my favorite chapters in any Mk story ever.
Tf you apologizing for we don’t GAF
@@johnny4830you’re mean
@@SlickSkuddy I mean bro wtf is he saying “I’m sorry” for like it’s his own opinion tf wrong with dude
@@johnny4830 he just didn’t want to get jumped 🤣
@johnny4830 if you understood the English dialect “or knew how to give constructive criticism” you would know that I was responding to the title of this video thank you for your helpful contribution to this world by cursing at someone who just wanted to voice there opinion about a funny video game I just got out of surgery and seeing that some people like the kind person who replied to you do still have a sense of responding to an opinion rationally. Also you don’t need 100 abbreviations because you don’t feel like typing the extra 5 letters to curse at someone with a disease. Have a nice night and hopefully despite the critical tone of this response I hope you do too also if you don’t understand any of the six grade level words I have used I can send a link to Websters dictionary.
As someone who hasn't played every single Mortal Kombat game, but I've been into the franchise my whole life because as a kid my parents purchased some of them (Trilogy, MK4, MKDA, MK Armageddon), and I played them. I do appreciate a lot these type of videos. I really enjoyed the Shaolin Monks video you made not so long ago, and just like Shaolin Monks I never had the chance to play MK vs DC either
24:15 I like to imagine that he wasn't reffering to Superman, and just had a sudden PTSD attack in the middle of the video
This was my first fighting game where I actually understood the fundamentals. I was 11 when I discovered it and was going through a phase where I loved dc. I had always known about mk growing up but never owned it. One day I stumbled across a video of all the fatalities for this game without realizing that it was called mk vs dc in the title. So while I was watching it I was like "wait is that joker? IS THAT BATMAN?" I'll never forget this game and I wish I had a way to play it again. I still have my Batman combos memorized but I have not played in maybe 10 years
this was the first and only MK game i’ve ever played. I was 5 years old and my brother finally let me play the xbox 360 and all i saw was batman on the cover i immediately wanted to play. I had no clue what i was doing. every morning before school id get up play the mode where u fight ppl till you reach the top and man i loved it. i didn’t even know there were brutality’s and a story mode. A couple years later i got to experience injustice and those 2 games brought me some great childhood memories
My very first MK game, played it for the DC characters but the MK stuff got me into the series.
The reason why moves like Scorpion's teleport can interrupt frame traps is because in MKDC special moves have priority. You can do things like mash Joker's shocker because a special move will always beat a normal
My brothers and I loved this game when we were younger! We grew up playing MK and loved superheroes so as very casual players it was a ton of fun! I’ve thought about revisiting it from time to time but I know it won’t hold up so I haven’t yet lol
Gotta be honest, I know we'll may never get a remaster of this game but with some polish, better textures, a improved final boss design and replacing the fatalities with fun brutalities for all fighters mk8 would be a outstanding experience
i had been waiting a long time for a video like this, i was always curious why this game was so divisive. It seemed like a decent fighting game and a fun spin off idea to mix mortal kombat and DC together
Great video and overview. Thanks.
I have good nostalgia for this game. It was either my first or second MK, other contender being 9. Me and my sister would just pick characters and try to do all their specials moves on each other. The one criticism I remember having at that time though was that the struggle or mashing sections felt kinda stupid.
This was my introduction to Mortal Kombat
This game had the bones of something great. Even the more cinematic things like Klose Kombat or the TYM are really no more pace-breaking than Fatal Blows, and add to something I'll mention at the end.
Have someone tweak the movement, make combo buttons easier/more consistent, patch a few of the most broken things, and you have a really fun game.
The characters had really cool looking moves that felt true to them, very stylish strings, and because they had to be scaled up to DC levels, the MK characters ended up having really badass animations. Combine all these and you'd have a really dope cinematic fighter.
Excellent video!
Dude the minigame stage transitions were so fun! Countless times me and my brother would laugh cause we kept getting switched around!
I really like your description for 3D era MK netcode because I've struggled to find a good way to tell people what it's like to play Armageddon online.
I love the close combat / camera zoom.. they should bring that back .. love the cinematicness
Im glad you guys made this video, I enjoyed this game because it was my first chance to use DC characters
I loved the Joker in this game. His hand buzzer parry was so much fun
NICE!! The only MK game I've never played o: (yes that includes Mythologies and Special Ops)
Feels strange being this early. This game is what got me and my brothers addicted to MK when we were kids, after we got grounded from Armageddon because of how brutal it was my mom actually allowed us to play this! Absolutely love this game!
This was the mk meta chapter I needed, ty
I like how MK has DLC characters now instead crossovers!
I love this game! It was the first mk game I played since mk3 on ps2! To be honest I think the designs for Subzero and Scorpion are some of the best and most important in the visual design history, and I love the mini games with walls falling and throws!
You should really do an overview of the characters in MK vs DC! That would be really funny and interesting.
You make amazing videos
A few things I'd like to touch on.
For the "throw" mini-game there was at least that added layer, that certain buttons did more or less damage than the others.
Unless I didn't catch it, the flash spin was so broken, because you could trade with buttons and just recover in time to get a full combo too.
If I recall you could "quick get up" to get out of the superman "infinite" but it was still very hard to do. There were also certain setups where you could get out of it, and weren't "true".
Rage mode was really one of the few things I didn't like about the game believe it or not, only because of how fast you got it. Breakers and guardbreak setups were just regularly on the menu. Superman groundpounds haunt you, but what haunts me is that 2-hit batman kick. It was an overhead so you couldn't even crouch it, and you would just die if you blocked one as you ate like 6 of them into full combo.
The concept was fun, the execution was just mediocre.
Although, there is one thing about this game that I’m thankful for.
It has my favourite Sub-Zero suit.
This will always have a special place in my heart due to it being the game I got with my PS3.
I’ve been waiting for a K&M video on this game.
I did enjoy this game as kid and did play the older ones before it too
My first fighting game I ever played, probably put in several hundreds of hours playing offline with just my buddy. Nowadays I stick with more modern fighting games but this one will always have a special place in my childhood.
Love it because of the memories i have playing with mi little brother
The faster recovery when holding sidestep is kinda like L-cancelling in Smash Melee (pretty much the same concept but for the landing recovery on aerial attacks), I never knew any other game had anything similar
My reason to love it is simple. I played it with my brother and father
its the only 3D style MK game on 7th gen (PS3/360 era) so thats why I still keep it. While its broken and clunky sometimes, its a decent game and fun to play. I revisited the game a few months ago and beat the game with Scorpion, Subzero, LK, Raiden, Baraka and Shao Kahn. as well as Joker and that sword ninja with guns from Superhero's side (dont know them too much, as i was never interested in superhero comics)
There is a game call Brawlout a platform fighter and the meter in that game reminds me of Rage Meter. They both have the same name, and very similar gimmicks where you spend one bar for a burst and both on a knockback increase buff and burst combo.
I use to play this with my dad I enjoyed it honestly I ran scorpion subzero joker Superman Batman
I remember arguing online with the guy who wrote the guide book because he was trying to say Superman's infinite wasn't real 😂
Kind of interesting how Granblue had a similar system to the pro movies. Certain moves act differently depending on if you use simple or technical inputs
I won an offline tourney for this in college. I felt like subzero, flash, raiden, batman, and green latern were so dope.
It's true that one of Superman's longstanding weaknesses is magic. Not sure if it pops up in the Injustice games, but it was a fairly big part of the comic tie-ins.
Internet retcons things. I remember vividly many people liking it. The mechanics felt gimmicky and not well thought out but still, people liked it. One thing everyone complained was the fatalities being lame. But I think the mainstream hate came after mk9 came.
Man, never really considered this game to have such negative reception especially because I remember playing this game with my friend back when I was really young. This was my first introduction to a fighting game on console and to the mortal kombat characters and I have fond memories of it.
My first Mortal Kombat was MK4 on the PS1, when I was young my PS1 was my main gaming platform and I played a LOT of MK4...although I have honestly forgotten most of it except for the sound design, I still get nostalgic chills with the sound design of that game. Come to think of it that may be my first fighting game I played, but I did not know what fighting games were back then.
Have you made a video like this for MK4? And what people thought of it at the time and now some 30 odd years later?
People are sort of coming around to MK4 and realizing it wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. Personally it's in my top 20 FGs of all time.
I completely understand why exactly people didn't like this game. For me personally, this was a game where literally my two favorite things in the entire world collided, and I for one remain a very happy fan boy, though I concede it could be MUCH better
mainly remember doing 2v2's in this game with my uncle and brothers, i cant bring myself to hate it
I liked the trials. Cleared Superman and learned a combo I used all the time. IIRC, it was the most devastating combo in the game.
For what it’s worth I really understand you just wanting a new mk game as a kid because I was the opposite. This was my first exposure to the mk franchise and I genuinely could not give a single care about them at the time. Eventually though, something made me try sub zero and he really clicked with me. Eventually mk9 came out and the rest is history, it’s now my favorite video game franchise.
I love this game. Played online for 4 years. Pro moves should come back.
Many a battle we had bujin!
I would love a remake or sequel honestly, it's such a fun concept
I loved it, thought it was fun and refreshing after 3 3d era games. I didn't mind the lack of gore because i grew up with the snes/megadrive versions of mk1.
This game was a double win for me. I'm a DC fan, and Mortal Kombat is my favorite fighting game franchise. Never was big on Marvel vs Capcom so this was a personal favorite of mine.
MK vs dc was my introduction into the series for my kid self (parents let me play it because it wasn’t gory ironically enough), even though MKX blew it out of the water and I like the later MKs and injustice 1 and 2 way more this game still has a special place in my heart, starting out I remember playing Raiden because I liked his hat and Kitana cause of her fans, and funnily enough I remember later on when I was fully into the series being super confused why Johnny Cage wasn’t in the game, you’d think he’d be perfect for a crossover game with all the references he makes.
great video.
I played this game as a kid, so balancing never mattered. I think most of the gimmicks you disliked, I enjoyed because I played it like a party game. Rage helped a lot against my brother and the gimmicks werent spammed.
I thought the fatalities were a bit weak, but the heroic brutalities were very creative addition to the game.
am I the only one who had no idea the origin of Dark Khan? wild.
Damn really makes me wonder what REO is up to now I don't remember hearing anything about him in a long while but I remember seeing old posts a long while back of his on this game that I found fascinating
This was my first ever Mortal Kombat game I believe, my brother had a pirated copy of it for Xbox and I played it a bit at his place.
I had heard of MK but didn't really know anything while I was a big fan of the Justice League series so I played it a bit, I did really enjoy Sub-Zero- I did not get the MK part of the story but it was fun enough, alter on I got to play MK9 and from there I have been a fan of the series.
I used to love this game
The graphics looked amazing to me as a kid especially bc it was new gen back then and the gameplay was just fun
The kid me loved Mk vs Dc
Same . I grew up with this game and played it a lot as a kid .
I loved this game to honest. I didn't like the same "fight interruption" mechanics either, and my friend group just ignored them as best we could. I'm one of the few who managed to snag this Platinum trophy, too.
Tom Brady is a name that makes me think "that mofo!" because my best friend was directly involved in the clan wars. He was in BD and I think Brady was in TDA. They had plenty of fights and I remember hearing all about the Green Lantern combo breaker situation and how hard to was to beat. I didn't even know that Tom Brady was a tournament legend people knew about until like last year, because I don't follow that stuff. This channel opened me up a little more to that stuff and my mind was blown that I had familiarity with Tom Brady, and that many people know him. Crazy stuff.
If you can get combo from hitting someone then you could hit them and then purposefully bait out the breaker.
Skipped this game entirely when it came out, but I thoroughly enjoyed the video! Cheers!
This game with the good catering to both DC and Mk fans would’ve BANGED today with the higher rating and more polish
Probably the best Sonya design. Tied with MK9.
God that online... certainly seems like an experience. And it's especially funny considering that the same month Super Street Fighter 2 HD Remix came out, which seems to be the first game to officially use Rollback netcode
Mortal Kombat vs DC is actually one of the best crossover games ever and I don’t care what some haters say about it
I like this game more than i like mk1 I loved mkvsdc because this was the first mk game that seemed to have long combos that weren't just dial in it was the most elaborate mk game combo wise at the time and they had ex moves even if it was hard to pull off and they introduced some of best looking moves in mk history like sub zero ice counter and ice nugget
I remember the Supes ground pound infinite and the only way to get out of it was to use rage.
8:15 How come you didn’t talk about this Fatality from Kano? That one is so violent it got me nightmares for weeks! XD
I remember buying a new generation system only for this game lol.
It’s interesting as well how they ended up using that same engine for MK 2011.
I still have my original copy.
I am one of the people who enjoyed Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe, and I actually still play it once in a while. Having not played any Mortal Kombat game since MK4, I didn't even know that the franchise was still active until I saw MK vs DC on the shelf at Target, and as a lifelong DC Comics guy, I couldn't resist. It's not as technically proficient as the 2011 Mortal Kombat, and has way less content, but it's still fun to mess around with casually. The story mode in particular is fun to replay as essentially a not very deep B-movie. But it's Mortal Kombat, c'mon. I don't think we need to have such high expectations from Mortal Kombat. The lack of content is directly related to Midway being close to bankrupt at the time, unfortunately. Fun fact: if they hadn't gone bankrupt, MK vs DC would have been one of, if not the actual first fighting game with DLC characters. Quan Chi and Harley Quinn were basically done, but they couldn't be released because of the financial problems.
I have never had much patience for people ragging on the toned-down fatalities. Some such complaints strike me as a juvenile attempt to be edgy, but some are made in good faith - and those ones highlight an issue with Mortal Kombat as a franchise. It got off the ground because of the shock value of its fatalities in the context of 1992, and the context of video games has evolved to a point where it is no longer shocking. The 2011 Mortal Kombat had fatalities with anatomically ridiculous amounts of blood and the wrong bones and such, as a throwback to Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3, and this set it apart. But after that, the whole concept went downhill. X, 11, and 1 have fatalities that are on average overly complex and just not very interesting. When Li Mei does the fatality where she sends an electrical current up someone's intestines, I don't gasp in shock - I just roll my eyes.
(And from a different angle, I was and still am surprised that a T-rated game managed to get away with showing Deathstroke blatantly snapping someone's neck, or Raiden lightning bolting someone until only their skeleton is left.)
I'm already basically not welcome back in most of the Mortal Kombat fan discussions, so here's a real spicy take: I want a sequel or re-imagining of Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe. Give us updated graphics. Give us real 2D gameplay. Give us an expanded roster and more counterparts - I wanna see big green guys Goro and Martian Manhunter throw down, and a robot slapfight between Cyrax and Red Tornado, and a scream-off between Sindel and Black Canary. Having Peacemaker as DLC in MK1 and Sub-Zero and Raiden in Injustice 2 is having more than one foot in the door.
I was 4 years old I absolutely loved this game
For what its worth, i enjoy it more than MK4 and Armageddon
And i actually prefer some of the DC character playstyle here over the Injustice 1 version
Man me and the homie used the play this all the time on ps3 as a kid going back n forth. Good times. Definitely not the most competitive game and was rough around the edges but i think I’d still have fun if I played it again. At least I hope so 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
08;41 it is weird , when by 2012 he was doing some pretty decent fatalities in ij1.