I am not a fan of all the extra bricks needed to achieve you’re awesome solution, which I really like by the way. I’d rather invest in bricks I’m going to see above ground. Does that make sense?
Thank you so much for showing this Ingenious technique! I was watching Jangbricks and his ideas for using these new plates. Now after watching your video, I'm really looking forward to incorporating these into my city! I love the clean look of your curb. I just need to finish up my castle display renovation, and I think this might be my next project!
I've been watching so many of these Adapting to the New Road Plate System videos over the last few weeks, but your solution is by far the easiest and most creative one I've seen!
I am using these in my city because of space, but mostly due to the versatile nature of the new road plates. With your baseplate solution, the math works because the baseplate without the studs is equal to 1/2 of a plate, so when laying the baseplate on top of plates with a tile, everything lines up and lays neatly in place. I’ve been using this method for well over a year and this is why I’m making the switch to the new roads. Glad to see you’re doing sewers. You can also use this new curb height to make small ramp transitions for wheel chair figures. Love seeing your videos.
I was totally against the new road plates when they were shown for the first time, and when we saw how they looked I was even more against using them. But seeing videos from you and other Lego enthusiasts showing how you can use them and adapt them to your wants and needs I am much more positive. I have the old light grey roadplates you showed in the beginning of you video for roads in my town, but I plan to expand with another level, and I can very well see myself using the new road system for the new area, and also for an area that is raised now and not connected to the rest of the city as it will allow me to make more sidewalks and details (like storm drains) in front of my modulars.
Thank you for this great video. I am about to move into a new house and have decided to do a whole room shelf layout. This has opened my eyes to all the possibilities with having a smaller footprint. I also like the extra sewer details you did.
@@MrBookieboo I’m actually going to try to design a racetrack with these. It basically just gives you a 16x16x2 starting point, and the curves + edges can be done with regular plates and tiles.
Thank you for sharing this solution. I was undecided about the new roads, but after your video I went out and bought a few an am very happy with the outcome. Fantastic for a small space!
Very nice! I am so pleased to see the baseplate sitting right on top of the studs and lining up perfectly, raising up my modulars is going to be way easier and less parts-intensive than I thought. Love the drains in the gutter too that looks so good!
I like them. I never liked the road baseplates because of size limitations for my city. Before the new road system I’ve just used 16x32 dark bluish gray baseplates as a road. Thank you for the tip about how to lock in modulars and the bit about using extra road pieces to hold up the modular. That is very useful!
I think the new road plates are good but unless you set everything thing else up to match their height or are using them as a bridge they aren’t really that usable
I'm one of the sceptics. But after seeing this video and also Robin Hood Bricks take on it I am definitely more positive. I just wish they had made it even more flexible. You can't for example put a piece of track on it and get a flush rail crossing. A bit of a lost opportunity. But hopefully they will expand the range with some new plates with more possibilities. And of course curves. A 45 degree curve 🤤
Seems like a lot of extra work to level the buildings with the new roads. I have a couple sets of these road plates because I have a city section with 5 modular sets on a coffee table. Until we can get a house (and get my vast Legoland out of storage,) the little set up satisfies, in a small way, my need for a Legoland. The plates help create a more city look than seeing the table top outside of the buildings. But when I can put out my full Legoland...I'll be sticking with the olde timey road plates.
I think yours is one of the best explanations I've seen of how to use the new road plates and I like that you're positive about the flexibility that the new road plates seem to offer A comment if I may: Underneath the modular you really need two plates high so that the studs of the two plates are supporting the modular baseplate at the same height as at the front. Using a new roadplate is only one plate + one tile high, so it doesn't have the studs. You could always put some plates in the recesses, I guess, but that seems an expensive way to do it. You can easily just use two (old) plates of any size to support the middle and back of the modular baseplate.
Great video! I like the look of the new plates with the curb. My only reservation is it would cost a lot of money to convert my city. I will still use the old system for now. Thanks for the video!😀👍
I mentioned this before in a different video, to me these roads have a lot of flexibility but the cost for the new road system and to widen the roads and to elevate all the buildings and surroundings seems a little much when you are on a budget. I rather put my money into modulars and mocs. I just started my city and am inspired by your city and copied the basic setup since the trains are important to me as well. I hope you don’t mind but your setup is just perfect for my spare room what is about 9x15 feet. Thanks for all the great videos so far. Do you have a video that shows the track layout? Robert
I've split opinions about the new road plates. In a lot of cities they look nice. I've always thought that the pavement (sidewalk) on the old road plates - plus pavement on a modular building - ended up with a too wide pavement. But at the same time I don't like the groves that you can see in the new road plates. But these plates won't change anything for me. I have chosen to use neither type - I wanted streets with tram tracks, so I brick-built my streets instead. But I must say that I bought a pack of the new ones just to play around with.
At first I wasn't a fan of them, untill I got 2 of the road sets, and saw Jangbricks video on them. I then went into bricklink studio and was playing around, and came up with a system to make them at least 2 or 3 studs wider and using what JANG, shown I implemented some of the things he shown into it. What I did was add the 2x4 tiles in the side slits and put the grass parts along it and added the 1x4 in the areas between, it leaves 2? studs on the sides, I think. Then I put 2x2 plates on corners and centers of then building tiles. Corners where cross walks was interesting, but it all comes down to tiles and plates. What I did is kinda similar but quite, but base plates you can but little 2x4 or 2x2 plates under it spaced out. I then tried it with the physical ones with the little 3 in 1 creator buildings I do have. I really like them, as someone who didn't get any of the older road plates. I'll definitely be getting more, there is lots you can do with them.
All my old plates went to my kids and as I am starting my collection(again ) I am already shifting to the new road plates. I really don’t have a lot of room so I think at least for me they will work perfectly 😁
Lego knew EXACTLY what they were doing when the designed these new road plates. It's all just a gimmick to make you buy MORE lego in order to make it compatible with your city builds. Curious to see if Modulars going forward will include these plates and what they will do with curved road plates.
I’m just starting my city, and I’m torn on how to set it up. I don’t have any road plates at all yet, old or new, but I do have about a half dozen baseplates in blue, green, and white that I was going to use as the base. I have a lot of the outdoorsy Creator sets, so I’m going for a mountain town theme here. My current thought is tiled bike paths and sidewalks on the 16x32 baseplates through most of the town and keep any roads on the edge. I’ll probably buy some of the new ones when I get ready to lay the road down.
Great video!!! I didn't think of adding a few studs yet, great idea! I like the flexebillety that they give but they are to expensive to switch. I'm still at the old ones from the 80's 😉
Excellent video! It's nice to see someone with your time and "commitment" to the old plates, present an excellent use case/discussion. So many people just freaked out about the change simply because it was change. I totally understand they have committed time and money to building with the old roads but, again, so many just spouted off, mostly without trying them or doing any evaluation. I've seen complaints about the rectangles but I also see the opportunity to add islands/construction barriers/etc. rather than just the lines. I also was having a problem understanding why it was such a big deal that they are 2 high, not a hard fix (as you presented) but I do like how you did the sewers. If someone is building a city, I'd think they'd have plates laying around that can be used. There are so many 3rd parties that make the old style road and/or plates that, while it may not be a perfect match (or LEGO), would work just fine. The only non-LEGO thing I've ever used is large plates/baseplates, which could also be cheaply used under existing bp. The only point I'll concede is price. I agree with many that it could be better priced for the size or even sold without all the pieces that could go into an "Xtras" poly pack.
I have never used a road plate in my city because of space, but now with the new road plates I will be getting them because I will be building a bridge with them.
New road plates are good unless you dont mind making modifications and putting extra bricklink orders otherwise previous version of road baseplates works better with modulars
I do like the higher curbs, but the new road plates are less smooth than the actual road base plates. It just seems like the tarmac is all patched up, which is not something I appreciate on a larger scale. If the road base plates are harder to get, I think I'd rather build roads with tiles. They will not be as smooth as the current base plates, but have more character than these 2 by 4 tiles connecting the new system up. I get the idea Lego had by making roads modular as well, but I'm not convinced they will be the solution for me.
Great video discussion and ideas! Great tips! I don’t understand all the drama behind these to be completely honest. Isn’t the point of Lego to use what you want and build in whatever suits your style, builds, and aesthetic? If one likes the road plates use them. If one likes the new road system then great. If, like me, one likes to make brick or tile built roads then go for it. To me, this new road system adds another option for folks. It’s certainly great for smaller kids to have pro looking roads very easily. I know my kids when little would have preferred the new road system. It also, for folks like me who don’t need/want them as roads, makes a good parts pack with some unique pieces and traffic accessories that can be used for Mocs. Also…just because Lego comes out with something doesn’t mean we “have to” use them. So to me…what’s all the “drama” about? I love your attitude Mark!
Great video! I have a really small city right now (in hopes of making it much larger in the future) and these plates are perfect for me because I never had enough of the "old ones" to begin with, My city is also heavily inspired by Boston (very narrow streets) so for me, I love them! I will say, as an AFOL who focuses on emergency vehicles in the 5-6-7 wide scale, I was concerned about space, but they actually fit very well!
For me, I haven't started building my city yet having only got back to into LEGO again last year after my dark ages, so I don't have any road base plates, and I too have limited space for a city so the new road plates look good to me. I just hope they come out some corners. I do hope as you mentioned that maybe the LEGO Group might replace the base plates under the modulars and come out with a new 2 or 3 plate high 32x32 plate that is in system and we can retrofit it onto the existing modulars.
@@MrBookieboo I do also like the flexibility of the new 16x16 plates that give you a lot more options for lanes, cross walk locations, center islands, etc
These possibilities would also be available with the old road system. If you have problems with limited build space, a MOC road would be the best choice! You can also flatter about the new roads. ^^
IMO the new road system is good for kids in general. Just 1 or 2 sets of these would do fine for any kid. They'd have some roads with the new sets and can build their city without limits. With the old road system you'd need so many plates to build a descent and variable enough city.
I was thinking to use the new plates as roofs for buildings, specially skyscrapers. The studs can be used to install the antennas, air conditioner, grilles, cables ... any detail of a roof. And you get the rest of the roof already tiled, no extra pieces In addition, if it works as a roof it also works as the floors of an office building. On the spaces with studs can be placed the columns or furniture, decoration. A normal 16x16 base plus the tiles, cost more than if we use these new road bases as a floor already tiled.
awesome technique mate :) i really wish the sets came with more 2x4 grey tiles. Hopefully we'll be able to buy them from bricks and pieces at some point :)
@@MrBookieboo im sure you've already thought of this, but the left over sloped ends that come with these new plates make nice shims for the modulars too
Great video! I really like your solution, it it much less part heavy than a lot of other designs I have seen. I personally really like the new roads and I am in the lucky position of having just started my city recently so I am not invested in the old plates and design my city around the new ones from the beginning.
was cool to see you do a new tutorial clip. pretty much was that. im still on the intrigued boat I guess because my lego town is small so they may work better for me. only building time will tell.
I like the flexibility of the new road plates. Only thing i am not sold on yet is if Lego will come out with a curve, slant or even a round about. I have seen some MILS plates for curves but they don't very good yet. Also with your fire station garage. have you thought about how a curb would connect with the new road plates. Are you using sloped pieces or some sort?
I’m not sure how they would do a curved road. My city is basically a grid, so It’s not too much of an issue for me. I use 2x4 rounded slopes at the fire station which line-up perfectly with the new roads and my higher curbs. Check out my insta posts for more details.
@@MrBookieboo Check out the channel Teal Bricks in Paradiso, he made a 3d Model on the computer that shows how Lego could make a new curved elemement, also his channel and project looks awesome, keep up the great work, your City is one of the absolute best.
Agree on the curves. I know many just build straight blocks. But sometimes you have an area outside the city too. The MILS look good but also requires an insane amount of pieces. Not everyone could justify that. Also remember LEGO is aimed mostly at children. Having out of the box curves like the old road plates certainly benefits their ability to play. Race track anyone? My vote though goes to a 45 degree curve for the new road plate line.
I'd like the new plates more if they weren't discontinuing the baseplates. Together, they're great, and the potential for bridges/highways makes me want them, but the fact is that it'll eventually be very expensive to get baseplates. Plus even if you can mod the new plates, getting the parts to do so is gonna be expensive. You also get a lot less road for about the same price. There isn't even an out of the box way to make turns with the new system at the moment (this could be remedied in the future, though).
I Love the way your curbs look with the gutters. I have my City on MILS, but it is all level. Think I may raise mine. Using them underneath works well, but seems like will cost alot more, but I am not crunched for space.
I think I’ve watched about 50 videos on this subject now that I’m actually trying it..and I like this idea best! Adding 1 more plate and I’ll be able to do curved railway track too! Thanks 🤘
I like the idea of having completely modular road plates, because that way you would never need to also buy intersections when you actually want straights (of course they could just sell the god damn straights seperately). I wouldn't even mind them being incompatible with baseplates, but they're just too small. Any cars wider than 4 studs (+ tires and shit) are super awkward on the new system. Possible reason right here why we've only gotten super small trucks so far.
of course you can make it work if you just add more plates to the sides, but they don't include those extra plates and not everyone can /wants to afford to buy a ton of extra plates
I like them in my small City, don't have space for the old road. Adding plates to widen road is the best part, or for a large tiled landing platform for star ships. Thanks for the tips on connection with baseplates. Brye
12:30 Actually that's not supported, because the modular's baseplate is sitting on two layers of plates, plus the studs of the upper plate, while the road plate piece you're using to support the back is two plates high, but has no studs on top. A baseplate sitting on studs is exactly the height of one plate, but you're missing the studs there. I would recommend using a framework of all the ridiculous, difficult colours of plates (eg. pinks and light blues) that everyone has a bunch of sitting around, to build up under the modulars. As for the rest, it looks rather good. The only trouble is getting all the parts to build out the roads and sidewalks like that. If you don't have a thousand spare 2x2 and 2x4 dark grey tiles to spare, it could get pricey..
I would use such roads for smaller streets and stay with classic ones for main avenues :D It feels a bit odd, that the new roads are so shiny and have these perfect reflections.
The only problem I have is that I spend a fortune basing my city on the old system. Other than that I really like all the possibilities that comes with new roads like bridges, two lane highways and wider/narrower streets.
I haven't built the roads in my city yet. I do have a narrow space too, and wasn't planning on using the old roadplates due to space limitations. This might be a good option :).
Controversial opinion I think the new system is better they connect in a less obvious than the older system plus with the new ones you can build a parking lot or garage without the need to use a sideways building technique and it’s much easier to use overall
I kind of like the lego-ness of the new road plates, you know? The old base plates are a little weird in how they are different from regular lego in terms of thickness, that always stood out a little bit for me. I do really enjoy the printed roads on the old base plates, though, I wonder how curves would work with these new plates, how to do curved lines without them being blocky. I saw another video of someone's lego city incorporating the new road plates, and they just had really wonky blocky curves, using tiles to kind of approximate the way printed curves look.
curves for me don’t line up at all with the new road plates , throws the entire city planning and block count off , seems you wither go new plates or old (i am taking the old old ones ) . i think i am showing my age about how well i liked the old plates .
Ich hoffe Lego erweitert das neue System immer Mal wieder.Die alten Strassenplatten gab es in ein paar Ausführungen im Sortiment,selten bei mir zu kaufen als ich Jung war, aber es gab keine wirkliche Erweiterung.
Not bad what you have done with them.....I like the flexibility with them and actually considering incorporating them in the next phase of my city expansion
Before this I was massively against the new road plates. However, you Sir have changed my mind. I'm already planning on how I can integrate them into my own builds!
@@MrBookieboo definitely! I can see why some people love them and some people hate them but it’ll be interesting to see everyone’s different methods on integrating them into cities.
I like the new plates but it’s a very expensive alternative. Great video, but you’re very quietly spoken so had to turn volume right up, which was an issue when an ad popped up.
I know I’ve commented on some old videos so not sure you’ll even notice - but curious why not use MILS for the new road plates + modulars? Would you use MILS if started a new city? I’ve been doing that so far, and feel it really makes aligning and configuring the layouts really easy. A lot of parts I know. Love your content!
to fill in the gap where the creator expert bulding sits i'm going to use corflute ( the samething signs are made from ) & use that as a filler as it will be cheaper that trying to use lego plates under the bulidings
Thanks for sharing your ideas and tips, Im currently integrating the new plates only in some sections of my city where I need space, ramping up from the old road plates. A visual problem I have with the new plates is now my dark bley sidewalks blend in too much so I plan to turn them all light bley
I think I like the new roads but gotta get rid of my old roads funding for the new road system is going to be rough. But a hybrid model for my small layout will be fine. I do like that some of the new city sets come with them. Curves maybe a challenge as well.
They look good, no question about that. However to make them wider, or to adjust to fit the modulars you must add more bricks accordingly so now you have to buy more lego to make adjustments? I guess so right....ill stick to the original base plates, plus i like the room for parking cars next to the building. The_Lego_Den
Correct, you would have to use more pieces to widen them and you do loose the street parking but that could be corrected with . . . More bricks. I was never really a fan of the T-junctions as parking, I just did that to use up the Ts.
I like the new road plates. They integrate more with other system bricks and I feel like that extra compatibility is a good thing. Like you said, it creates more options like having 2 lanes in each direction. You could also widen the lanes by adding those half plates on each side. Or using other bricks too, I imagine.
If you want to go studs to the wall on the saving space, you could glue the baseplates directly to the wall and build the whole city at a 90 degree angle, SNOT style.
@@MrBookieboo No, not like you did in the video, the road is slightly elevated over the pavement part of the Assembly Square but I like the look regardless. I don't have any displays as such, I wanted them both for animations I have planned.
These are actually a really good edition. I will be using them to build a ramp for cars to enter a ferry in my Lego city harbor. Maybe even an elevated road.
How are you going to deal with the transition from the old to the new road system? There is a "bump" there. I am curious to understand how you can solve that issue.
Hi i'd like to use those new road plates for a Star Wars hangar for the arrival of the emperor with the imperial shuttle instead of building a costly floor with base plates and tons of grey tiles, is it a good option? Thanks
I like it and plan to get them. As you'd mentioned, they're perfect for smaller spaces as they free up more room, offer more creativity and I love your raised sidewalks. It looks cool.
You really use these expensive roadparts under the baseplates of the buildings? That means, u pay 20 bucks per building to raise it to connect to the new Streets? Where do you have your gold donkey from?
I think your workaround only works when you place the rest of the building on studs instead of a flat plate, or am I missing something here? Anyhow I don't really like those workarounds, when stuff isn't really connected to each other. If I were to migrate, I'd expect Lego to provide proper 32x32 plates (instead of base plates), where everything can be transitioned 1:1. My other problem is the design, the plates are so shiny and the indentations are so disturbing, I'd rather just go with tiles instead. I can't shake the feeling that Lego did not think this one through at all, it simply does not fit their System.
With the new road plates or the old ones? The new ones require you to raise up the modulars either on mils or other techniques. I don’t actually attach the roads to the modulars - everything just floats. Check out some of my newer videos to see examples. Happy building!
What are your thoughts on the new LEGO road plates? Good, bad, indifferent?
i dont mind them i wish they still did the older baseplates though, I build on mils so it does not really affect me
Not for me... I really don't like them, they look too patchwork and ugly
Yeah, it’s a shame they seem to have discontinued the road base plates. They have been around forever.
That’s fair, they aren’t for everyone.
I am not a fan of all the extra bricks needed to achieve you’re awesome solution, which I really like by the way. I’d rather invest in bricks I’m going to see above ground. Does that make sense?
Thank you so much for showing this Ingenious technique! I was watching Jangbricks and his ideas for using these new plates. Now after watching your video, I'm really looking forward to incorporating these into my city! I love the clean look of your curb. I just need to finish up my castle display renovation, and I think this might be my next project!
Thank you!
I've been watching so many of these Adapting to the New Road Plate System videos over the last few weeks, but your solution is by far the easiest and most creative one I've seen!
Thank you very much! I always try to go with the simpilest solution.
I am using these in my city because of space, but mostly due to the versatile nature of the new road plates. With your baseplate solution, the math works because the baseplate without the studs is equal to 1/2 of a plate, so when laying the baseplate on top of plates with a tile, everything lines up and lays neatly in place. I’ve been using this method for well over a year and this is why I’m making the switch to the new roads. Glad to see you’re doing sewers. You can also use this new curb height to make small ramp transitions for wheel chair figures. Love seeing your videos.
Ohhh, good idea with the disabled access 😊.
The best way I have seen so far to put the new roads to use with the modulars!
Thanks, I am gonna use this way for sure.
I was totally against the new road plates when they were shown for the first time, and when we saw how they looked I was even more against using them. But seeing videos from you and other Lego enthusiasts showing how you can use them and adapt them to your wants and needs I am much more positive. I have the old light grey roadplates you showed in the beginning of you video for roads in my town, but I plan to expand with another level, and I can very well see myself using the new road system for the new area, and also for an area that is raised now and not connected to the rest of the city as it will allow me to make more sidewalks and details (like storm drains) in front of my modulars.
I felt the same way at first. I think a hybrid solution could work very well.
Thank you for this great video. I am about to move into a new house and have decided to do a whole room shelf layout. This has opened my eyes to all the possibilities with having a smaller footprint. I also like the extra sewer details you did.
You’re very welcome, I’m glad you found it helpful. You should be able to build a decent city on a shelf with these.
Same problem with base plates. Now i have the solution because of you. Never thought about raising the whole plate like that. Thank you!
Curves - how have they solved that.... Or you can only build straight roads.
I think you can only build straight parts, for now. No race tracks with the new roads 😔
@@MrBookieboo I’m actually going to try to design a racetrack with these. It basically just gives you a 16x16x2 starting point, and the curves + edges can be done with regular plates and tiles.
Nice!
Thank you for sharing this solution. I was undecided about the new roads, but after your video I went out and bought a few an am very happy with the outcome. Fantastic for a small space!
I look forward to my 3 year old being able to put LEGO together and build something like this over the years for him.
It's interesting seeing all the options for the new road plates.... so many different things you can do with them. Great video Mark!
Thanks! I really like the flexibility of the new system.
Very nice! I am so pleased to see the baseplate sitting right on top of the studs and lining up perfectly, raising up my modulars is going to be way easier and less parts-intensive than I thought. Love the drains in the gutter too that looks so good!
That's exactly how I did my roads and modular plates. I like how you have the facades in the background as well. Super nice layout!
Thank you!
I like them. I never liked the road baseplates because of size limitations for my city. Before the new road system I’ve just used 16x32 dark bluish gray baseplates as a road.
Thank you for the tip about how to lock in modulars and the bit about using extra road pieces to hold up the modular. That is very useful!
I think the new road plates are good but unless you set everything thing else up to match their height or are using them as a bridge they aren’t really that usable
Yes, you do need to lift up the modulars. I was able to remedy that fairly easily.
I'm one of the sceptics. But after seeing this video and also Robin Hood Bricks take on it I am definitely more positive. I just wish they had made it even more flexible.
You can't for example put a piece of track on it and get a flush rail crossing.
A bit of a lost opportunity. But hopefully they will expand the range with some new plates with more possibilities. And of course curves. A 45 degree curve 🤤
You might be able to bury tracks if you expand it outward but I agree, they could have done more.
Seems like a lot of extra work to level the buildings with the new roads. I have a couple sets of these road plates because I have a city section with 5 modular sets on a coffee table. Until we can get a house (and get my vast Legoland out of storage,) the little set up satisfies, in a small way, my need for a Legoland. The plates help create a more city look than seeing the table top outside of the buildings.
But when I can put out my full Legoland...I'll be sticking with the olde timey road plates.
I got one pack to test out and I think they have tons of potential! i'm using them in my current moc & I can't wait to see if that add curves or ramps
I like this system, out of all the other ideas I’ve seen , i think i like yours best.
Thank you so much
Great video and insight! I feel convinced on the benefits of the new road style
Thank you!
I think yours is one of the best explanations I've seen of how to use the new road plates and I like that you're positive about the flexibility that the new road plates seem to offer
A comment if I may:
Underneath the modular you really need two plates high so that the studs of the two plates are supporting the modular baseplate at the same height as at the front.
Using a new roadplate is only one plate + one tile high, so it doesn't have the studs. You could always put some plates in the recesses, I guess, but that seems an expensive way to do it.
You can easily just use two (old) plates of any size to support the middle and back of the modular baseplate.
Thanks for the tip! I’ll try two plates and see how that looks.
Great video! I like the look of the new plates with the curb. My only reservation is it would cost a lot of money to convert my city. I will still use the old system for now. Thanks for the video!😀👍
This is true - the cost is a bit more than traditional road baseplates. I think there is room for both to exist (even in the same city!)
Personally I think the plates are super efficient and pretty versatile but I also think they sacrifice the look by having weird spaces in between.
Good solution to the hight / thickness issue. Thanks for pointing out the positives of the new road plates.
You’re very welcome!
I love the new road plates! There are much more flexible and the much smaller footprint is a huge plus for me. More room for buildings and so on.
Agreed! I have even more room for facades now 😊
I mentioned this before in a different video, to me these roads have a lot of flexibility but the cost for the new road system and to widen the roads and to elevate all the buildings and surroundings seems a little much when you are on a budget. I rather put my money into modulars and mocs. I just started my city and am inspired by your city and copied the basic setup since the trains are important to me as well. I hope you don’t mind but your setup is just perfect for my spare room what is about 9x15 feet. Thanks for all the great videos so far. Do you have a video that shows the track layout?
Robert
Thanks and no problem! Some of my earlier videos have a closer look at the track layout and different ideas that I’ve tried over the years.
Good video! Im sticking with the road baseplates. To me the new system cost more money for less actual road.
Looks beautiful 🤩
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Thank you 😃
I've split opinions about the new road plates. In a lot of cities they look nice.
I've always thought that the pavement (sidewalk) on the old road plates - plus pavement on a modular building - ended up with a too wide pavement.
But at the same time I don't like the groves that you can see in the new road plates.
But these plates won't change anything for me. I have chosen to use neither type - I wanted streets with tram tracks, so I brick-built my streets instead.
But I must say that I bought a pack of the new ones just to play around with.
I agree, it has pros and cons. The extra wide sidewalks always bothered me too. Brick built is best for sure, but also very expensive.
At first I wasn't a fan of them, untill I got 2 of the road sets, and saw Jangbricks video on them. I then went into bricklink studio and was playing around, and came up with a system to make them at least 2 or 3 studs wider and using what JANG, shown I implemented some of the things he shown into it.
What I did was add the 2x4 tiles in the side slits and put the grass parts along it and added the 1x4 in the areas between, it leaves 2? studs on the sides, I think. Then I put 2x2 plates on corners and centers of then building tiles. Corners where cross walks was interesting, but it all comes down to tiles and plates.
What I did is kinda similar but quite, but base plates you can but little 2x4 or 2x2 plates under it spaced out.
I then tried it with the physical ones with the little 3 in 1 creator buildings I do have. I really like them, as someone who didn't get any of the older road plates. I'll definitely be getting more, there is lots you can do with them.
All my old plates went to my kids and as I am starting my collection(again ) I am already shifting to the new road plates. I really don’t have a lot of room so I think at least for me they will work perfectly 😁
Very nice, happy building 😃
I'm that guy with modulars on a shelf and the new road plates and this little set-up you've shown is perfect for me. I'm a convert!
Fantastic! I’m glad you found it helpful.
Lego knew EXACTLY what they were doing when the designed these new road plates. It's all just a gimmick to make you buy MORE lego in order to make it compatible with your city builds. Curious to see if Modulars going forward will include these plates and what they will do with curved road plates.
That’s what I want to see - how next years modular is designed.
Since when is LEGO trying to get you to buy more lego a gimmick? That's the whole point!
I’m just starting my city, and I’m torn on how to set it up. I don’t have any road plates at all yet, old or new, but I do have about a half dozen baseplates in blue, green, and white that I was going to use as the base. I have a lot of the outdoorsy Creator sets, so I’m going for a mountain town theme here. My current thought is tiled bike paths and sidewalks on the 16x32 baseplates through most of the town and keep any roads on the edge. I’ll probably buy some of the new ones when I get ready to lay the road down.
Those are great plans, I can’t wait to see what you come up with.
Great video!!! I didn't think of adding a few studs yet, great idea! I like the flexebillety that they give but they are to expensive to switch. I'm still at the old ones from the 80's 😉
Yeah, they are a bit expensive compared to the old road baseplates.
I plan on using these as part of MILS-based road plates. I hope this system gets expanded to include road plates with streetcar tracks.
I hope so too!
Excellent video! It's nice to see someone with your time and "commitment" to the old plates, present an excellent use case/discussion. So many people just freaked out about the change simply because it was change. I totally understand they have committed time and money to building with the old roads but, again, so many just spouted off, mostly without trying them or doing any evaluation. I've seen complaints about the rectangles but I also see the opportunity to add islands/construction barriers/etc. rather than just the lines. I also was having a problem understanding why it was such a big deal that they are 2 high, not a hard fix (as you presented) but I do like how you did the sewers. If someone is building a city, I'd think they'd have plates laying around that can be used. There are so many 3rd parties that make the old style road and/or plates that, while it may not be a perfect match (or LEGO), would work just fine. The only non-LEGO thing I've ever used is large plates/baseplates, which could also be cheaply used under existing bp. The only point I'll concede is price. I agree with many that it could be better priced for the size or even sold without all the pieces that could go into an "Xtras" poly pack.
I have never used a road plate in my city because of space, but now with the new road plates I will be getting them because I will be building a bridge with them.
New road plates are good unless you dont mind making modifications and putting extra bricklink orders otherwise previous version of road baseplates works better with modulars
Very true, there is a bit more required to make them work with existing sets.
I do like the higher curbs, but the new road plates are less smooth than the actual road base plates. It just seems like the tarmac is all patched up, which is not something I appreciate on a larger scale. If the road base plates are harder to get, I think I'd rather build roads with tiles. They will not be as smooth as the current base plates, but have more character than these 2 by 4 tiles connecting the new system up. I get the idea Lego had by making roads modular as well, but I'm not convinced they will be the solution for me.
Yes, the 2x4s are a little odd for sure. I think these are a good intermediate step between road baseplates and brick-built roads.
Great video discussion and ideas! Great tips! I don’t understand all the drama behind these to be completely honest. Isn’t the point of Lego to use what you want and build in whatever suits your style, builds, and aesthetic? If one likes the road plates use them. If one likes the new road system then great. If, like me, one likes to make brick or tile built roads then go for it. To me, this new road system adds another option for folks. It’s certainly great for smaller kids to have pro looking roads very easily. I know my kids when little would have preferred the new road system. It also, for folks like me who don’t need/want them as roads, makes a good parts pack with some unique pieces and traffic accessories that can be used for Mocs. Also…just because Lego comes out with something doesn’t mean we “have to” use them. So to me…what’s all the “drama” about? I love your attitude Mark!
Very well stated, Dr, McBrick. It is always good to have options.
Great video! I have a really small city right now (in hopes of making it much larger in the future) and these plates are perfect for me because I never had enough of the "old ones" to begin with, My city is also heavily inspired by Boston (very narrow streets) so for me, I love them! I will say, as an AFOL who focuses on emergency vehicles in the 5-6-7 wide scale, I was concerned about space, but they actually fit very well!
That’s great! Sounds like these will be a great fit for you.
For me, I haven't started building my city yet having only got back to into LEGO again last year after my dark ages, so I don't have any road base plates, and I too have limited space for a city so the new road plates look good to me. I just hope they come out some corners. I do hope as you mentioned that maybe the LEGO Group might replace the base plates under the modulars and come out with a new 2 or 3 plate high 32x32 plate that is in system and we can retrofit it onto the existing modulars.
Hopefully they make more road options.
@@MrBookieboo I do also like the flexibility of the new 16x16 plates that give you a lot more options for lanes, cross walk locations, center islands, etc
This is very exciting. I will be fully switching based off this video. Thank you so much.
I’m glad you found it useful!
Just a tip, try to use increments of 8 studs when making the new roads wider so they work with modular, intersections and so on.
I just put my modulars on 4 16x16 plates, that fixes the problem with them.
I actually cheated and bought some off brand 32x32 plates to do the same. Work great actually, no problems with stud clutch
That’s another great option 😉
Thank's for showing and explaining this solution. 👍
You’re welcome 🙂
These possibilities would also be available with the old road system. If you have problems with limited build space, a MOC road would be the best choice!
You can also flatter about the new roads. ^^
IMO the new road system is good for kids in general. Just 1 or 2 sets of these would do fine for any kid. They'd have some roads with the new sets and can build their city without limits. With the old road system you'd need so many plates to build a descent and variable enough city.
I was thinking to use the new plates as roofs for buildings, specially skyscrapers. The studs can be used to install the antennas, air conditioner, grilles, cables ... any detail of a roof. And you get the rest of the roof already tiled, no extra pieces
In addition, if it works as a roof it also works as the floors of an office building. On the spaces with studs can be placed the columns or furniture, decoration.
A normal 16x16 base plus the tiles, cost more than if we use these new road bases as a floor already tiled.
awesome technique mate :) i really wish the sets came with more 2x4 grey tiles. Hopefully we'll be able to buy them from bricks and pieces at some point :)
Thank you! I’ve noticed the 2x4 shortage as well. They also aren’t cheap on the secondary market 🙁
Yeah i agree, but I've just been using double 2x2 for now. Still looks good even with the extra seams.
@@MrBookieboo im sure you've already thought of this, but the left over sloped ends that come with these new plates make nice shims for the modulars too
That’s a good idea! I have so many of those.
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Great video! I really like your solution, it it much less part heavy than a lot of other designs I have seen. I personally really like the new roads and I am in the lucky position of having just started my city recently so I am not invested in the old plates and design my city around the new ones from the beginning.
Thank you! I think these new roads have a lot of potential.
was cool to see you do a new tutorial clip. pretty much was that. im still on the intrigued boat I guess because my lego town is small so they may work better for me. only building time will tell.
Thank you! I’m going to try to do more tutorials in the future.
I like the flexibility of the new road plates. Only thing i am not sold on yet is if Lego will come out with a curve, slant or even a round about. I have seen some MILS plates for curves but they don't very good yet. Also with your fire station garage. have you thought about how a curb would connect with the new road plates. Are you using sloped pieces or some sort?
I’m not sure how they would do a curved road. My city is basically a grid, so It’s not too much of an issue for me. I use 2x4 rounded slopes at the fire station which line-up perfectly with the new roads and my higher curbs. Check out my insta posts for more details.
@@MrBookieboo Check out the channel Teal Bricks in Paradiso, he made a 3d Model on the computer that shows how Lego could make a new curved elemement, also his channel and project looks awesome, keep up the great work, your City is one of the absolute best.
Nice! I’ll check that out.
Agree on the curves. I know many just build straight blocks. But sometimes you have an area outside the city too. The MILS look good but also requires an insane amount of pieces. Not everyone could justify that.
Also remember LEGO is aimed mostly at children. Having out of the box curves like the old road plates certainly benefits their ability to play. Race track anyone?
My vote though goes to a 45 degree curve for the new road plate line.
Hopefully they add curves
I like the new system cuz i the old one you can't make a freeway or if you wanted to make a moc one you needed a lot of bricks, but this one's easier
I'd like the new plates more if they weren't discontinuing the baseplates. Together, they're great, and the potential for bridges/highways makes me want them, but the fact is that it'll eventually be very expensive to get baseplates. Plus even if you can mod the new plates, getting the parts to do so is gonna be expensive. You also get a lot less road for about the same price. There isn't even an out of the box way to make turns with the new system at the moment (this could be remedied in the future, though).
All very true, there’s definitely a $ motive at play here.
As long as Lego makes a 2 tile tall 32x32 baseplate, I'm sold
I hope so!
I Love the way your curbs look with the gutters. I have my City on MILS, but it is all level. Think I may raise mine. Using them underneath works well, but seems like will cost alot more, but I am not crunched for space.
I think I’ve watched about 50 videos on this subject now that I’m actually trying it..and I like this idea best! Adding 1 more plate and I’ll be able to do curved railway track too! Thanks 🤘
I like the idea of having completely modular road plates, because that way you would never need to also buy intersections when you actually want straights (of course they could just sell the god damn straights seperately). I wouldn't even mind them being incompatible with baseplates, but they're just too small. Any cars wider than 4 studs (+ tires and shit) are super awkward on the new system. Possible reason right here why we've only gotten super small trucks so far.
of course you can make it work if you just add more plates to the sides, but they don't include those extra plates and not everyone can /wants to afford to buy a ton of extra plates
I have a small city so i have bought the new road system. I have used tha old road plates as spacer for the modulars.
Very nice!
I like them in my small City, don't have space for the old road.
Adding plates to widen road is the best part, or for a large tiled landing platform for star ships.
Thanks for the tips on connection with baseplates. Brye
Yes! I forgot to mention how great they are for aircraft hangers and tarmac too
12:30 Actually that's not supported, because the modular's baseplate is sitting on two layers of plates, plus the studs of the upper plate, while the road plate piece you're using to support the back is two plates high, but has no studs on top. A baseplate sitting on studs is exactly the height of one plate, but you're missing the studs there. I would recommend using a framework of all the ridiculous, difficult colours of plates (eg. pinks and light blues) that everyone has a bunch of sitting around, to build up under the modulars.
As for the rest, it looks rather good. The only trouble is getting all the parts to build out the roads and sidewalks like that. If you don't have a thousand spare 2x2 and 2x4 dark grey tiles to spare, it could get pricey..
I would use such roads for smaller streets and stay with classic ones for main avenues :D It feels a bit odd, that the new roads are so shiny and have these perfect reflections.
Just put a sprinkler in your diorama. Wet streets are shiny.
The only problem I have is that I spend a fortune basing my city on the old system. Other than that I really like all the possibilities that comes with new roads like bridges, two lane highways and wider/narrower streets.
I haven't built the roads in my city yet. I do have a narrow space too, and wasn't planning on using the old roadplates due to space limitations. This might be a good option :).
I think it may work well for you.
Controversial opinion I think the new system is better they connect in a less obvious than the older system plus with the new ones you can build a parking lot or garage without the need to use a sideways building technique and it’s much easier to use overall
I kind of like the lego-ness of the new road plates, you know? The old base plates are a little weird in how they are different from regular lego in terms of thickness, that always stood out a little bit for me. I do really enjoy the printed roads on the old base plates, though, I wonder how curves would work with these new plates, how to do curved lines without them being blocky. I saw another video of someone's lego city incorporating the new road plates, and they just had really wonky blocky curves, using tiles to kind of approximate the way printed curves look.
curves for me don’t line up at all with the new road plates , throws the entire city planning and block count off , seems you wither go new plates or old (i am taking the old old ones ) . i think i am showing my age about how well i liked the old plates .
Ich hoffe Lego erweitert das neue System immer Mal wieder.Die alten Strassenplatten gab es in ein paar Ausführungen im Sortiment,selten bei mir zu kaufen als ich Jung war, aber es gab keine wirkliche Erweiterung.
Not bad what you have done with them.....I like the flexibility with them and actually considering incorporating them in the next phase of my city expansion
Thanks! They do have some potential.
Still waiting to see someone make a curved road with them. Also would be nice if they included yellow striped pieces for the center lines.
I’ll see if I can come with something 🤪
Before this I was massively against the new road plates. However, you Sir have changed my mind. I'm already planning on how I can integrate them into my own builds!
I’m glad it was helpful. It’s not for everyone, but it does have potential to be handy.
@@MrBookieboo definitely! I can see why some people love them and some people hate them but it’ll be interesting to see everyone’s different methods on integrating them into cities.
Where can I start buying all these beautiful new road plates?
They are pretty much available everywhere at this point.
I like the new plates but it’s a very expensive alternative. Great video, but you’re very quietly spoken so had to turn volume right up, which was an issue when an ad popped up.
Thank you, I’m looking into my sound issues.
looks great , thanks for your hard work
Thank you!
I know I’ve commented on some old videos so not sure you’ll even notice - but curious why not use MILS for the new road plates + modulars? Would you use MILS if started a new city? I’ve been doing that so far, and feel it really makes aligning and configuring the layouts really easy. A lot of parts I know. Love your content!
You’re City looks amazing! And your solution works great, though it must be quite expensive
Thank you! With LEGO, everything is expensive 😂
@@MrBookieboo That's very true!
to fill in the gap where the creator expert bulding sits i'm going to use corflute ( the samething signs are made from ) & use that as a filler as it will be cheaper that trying to use lego plates under the bulidings
Still need them to release some type of curve plate for this system to work for me
Thanks for sharing your ideas and tips, Im currently integrating the new plates only in some sections of my city where I need space, ramping up from the old road plates. A visual problem I have with the new plates is now my dark bley sidewalks blend in too much so I plan to turn them all light bley
Also Id be interested how you make curves and handle crosswalks
I think I like the new roads but gotta get rid of my old roads funding for the new road system is going to be rough. But a hybrid model for my small layout will be fine. I do like that some of the new city sets come with them. Curves maybe a challenge as well.
They look good, no question about that. However to make them wider, or to adjust to fit the modulars you must add more bricks accordingly so now you have to buy more lego to make adjustments? I guess so right....ill stick to the original base plates, plus i like the room for parking cars next to the building. The_Lego_Den
Correct, you would have to use more pieces to widen them and you do loose the street parking but that could be corrected with . . . More bricks. I was never really a fan of the T-junctions as parking, I just did that to use up the Ts.
I like the new road plates. They integrate more with other system bricks and I feel like that extra compatibility is a good thing. Like you said, it creates more options like having 2 lanes in each direction. You could also widen the lanes by adding those half plates on each side. Or using other bricks too, I imagine.
Since I'm really tight on space, these new road plates saved me from going brick built (aka saving money) and are very versatile.
Definitely, they are cheaper than mils roads and work well enough.
If you want to go studs to the wall on the saving space, you could glue the baseplates directly to the wall and build the whole city at a 90 degree angle, SNOT style.
I like the new road plates but I'll still be sad if they get rid of the old base plates
Sadly, I’m hearing rumors that they are gone.
The "goofy white stripes" are catchbasin grates.
Ahhh, good to know!
Yes, there’s one catchbasin, but I think he meant the other white stripes.
I love the new road plates, they look really slick up against the... one city modular I own.
Did you raise your modular up?
@@MrBookieboo No, not like you did in the video, the road is slightly elevated over the pavement part of the Assembly Square but I like the look regardless. I don't have any displays as such, I wanted them both for animations I have planned.
Makes sense and I’ll bet it looks good. There is a lot of variety and room for different uses with these new roads.
Any ideas of corners yet? I’m stumped
Lol
Curved? I think I have intersections solved. That’ll be another video soon.
@@MrBookieboo yeah like a proper corner like the old plates. I’ve tried a few things but nothing yet.
I’ve figured a few things
These are actually a really good edition. I will be using them to build a ramp for cars to enter a ferry in my Lego city harbor. Maybe even an elevated road.
they definitely are a lot more flexible, a bit spendy but, i think your vid kinda sold me on them, which i wasn't at first.
You should redo your train station and make it similar to Perth Amboy train station
I definitely want to do a more elaborate train station in the future.
Maybe is a dumb question but how you can make a curve with these modules?
Not dumb at all, I haven’t figured that out yet. I’ve heard some people have mocked up what you could do but I haven’t seen it yet.
How are you going to deal with the transition from the old to the new road system? There is a "bump" there. I am curious to understand how you can solve that issue.
Hi i'd like to use those new road plates for a Star Wars hangar for the arrival of the emperor with the imperial shuttle instead of building a costly floor with base plates and tons of grey tiles, is it a good option? Thanks
That’s a good idea!
I like it and plan to get them. As you'd mentioned, they're perfect for smaller spaces as they free up more room, offer more creativity and I love your raised sidewalks. It looks cool.
Great job 👏
You really use these expensive roadparts under the baseplates of the buildings? That means, u pay 20 bucks per building to raise it to connect to the new Streets?
Where do you have your gold donkey from?
I think your workaround only works when you place the rest of the building on studs instead of a flat plate, or am I missing something here?
Anyhow I don't really like those workarounds, when stuff isn't really connected to each other. If I were to migrate, I'd expect Lego to provide proper 32x32 plates (instead of base plates), where everything can be transitioned 1:1. My other problem is the design, the plates are so shiny and the indentations are so disturbing, I'd rather just go with tiles instead.
I can't shake the feeling that Lego did not think this one through at all, it simply does not fit their System.
You’re right, I have some cheap plates on the way to fix that.
I’m new to Lego city and I’m wondering how you connect the base plate if a building to a road plate
With the new road plates or the old ones? The new ones require you to raise up the modulars either on mils or other techniques. I don’t actually attach the roads to the modulars - everything just floats. Check out some of my newer videos to see examples. Happy building!
nice video, but ist now the second one that i find the volume of your video verry low.
Thank you for the feedback, I’ll look into that.