How to sound like Niandra LaDes - John Frusciante's Masterpiece

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  • @ThonyGr
    @ThonyGr  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    thonygr.bandcamp.com

    • @keiranj5149
      @keiranj5149 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How would you make the high pitched whaling distorted sound like on running away into you for example?
      I've seen something similar like octave pedals and pitch shifters but they don't seem to do the same thing as theyre fixed at select pitches. Where as on the album it sounds like he's just wildy turning a dial up and down at will, however far he wants to.
      Is it something like a varispeed pedal?

    • @dannielwheeler
      @dannielwheeler ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@keiranj5149 I think its just a delay pedal and he's messing with the time knob

    • @joeferris5086
      @joeferris5086 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your song forever is a long time is so good! I just searched out and bought a 4 track tape recorder because of your video and music.
      Im really excited to start recording with it. There's just something about how acoustic guitars sound on the 4 track that I can't forget.

    • @joeferris5086
      @joeferris5086 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@keiranj5149 My guitar teacher told me it was an echo plex years ago, but I don't think he was correct.
      Idk though. I dont think its the unit's pitch knob.

    • @keiranj5149
      @keiranj5149 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@joeferris5086 you are right. I've since found out he used a digitech pds delay pedal.. hard to get now.. it was a change on the 'seconds' knob that caused the effect. Thanks for the reply anyway though.

  • @tiagopapini224
    @tiagopapini224 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    For long time this album was my only friend

    • @poopydonkey
      @poopydonkey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amen

  • @rihanna5990
    @rihanna5990 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    funny how people would say that drugs are the sole cause of why niandra sounds like the way it does, but ironically a lot of the tracks were recorded during a time the band had a sober phase with exception being occasionally smoke weed with flea in the garden.

    • @greenleaf4127
      @greenleaf4127 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      It seems that people cannot fathom how or why would someone make such a vulnerable/crazy/carefree record while being sober, while the reality is that John was like this by nature at that time. Which seems scary and and unnatural to most people, thus they automatically come to the conclusion that he must have been on drugs while recording.

    • @billepperson2662
      @billepperson2662 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Very insightful of both of you. Most great music like the last half of the album/the untitled songs, that are recorded while a person is using, happen almost 100% of the time in spite of the use, not because of it... Spent a decade of my life learning that & lost LOTS of friends along the way

  • @9ner
    @9ner 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I really wonder if this album will receive greater recognition. It's one of the unsung classics of the 90s with its rich melancholic textures and experimentation. Doesn't really fall into a genre...post-punk, post-(classic)rock, avant garde. For me it's the quintessential quarter life crisis album. No other album for me has come close to emotively depicting that ebb and flow of despondency, wistfulness and nostalgia. Listened to it a lot during my dark times, and I still listen to every year, it's really beautiful. Thanks for your tips, really insightful.

    • @-nathanschneider
      @-nathanschneider 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      th-cam.com/play/PLi9UJsZzsxFRs3phYPzQ6vhjQ9IumFVFi.html&si=7YnIKLC42byHjIwk

  • @spangsman
    @spangsman ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I know im late to find this... but dude this is fucking AWESOME!!! I remember hearing this for the first time probably like 1995 or 1996. Ive listened to it very frequently ever since. Ive read a lot about how it was recorded... but seeing how it was actually done made my day, Nearly 30 years later!!! Thanks for this!

  • @giuliostrammiello
    @giuliostrammiello ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:31 Same thing when He recorded the reverse solos for Give it away I think!

  • @yaminog4776
    @yaminog4776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Do you imagine doing a how to record only water for ten days was recorded? Damn I love your videos

  • @FilipFellner
    @FilipFellner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I was always interested in how he recorded Niandra LaDes and Usually Just A T-shirt. Amazing video man! Got goodebumps at the end, well played!

  • @michakowalski2930
    @michakowalski2930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ok you won my sub with that video. Niandra is like emotions cleanser. A big party with dancing in my sad emotions. A treasure in my life. EDIT: And I'm 666th like on the video, I knew it that it was devils music. First time I've heard niandra is when I was coming back from pilgrimage and priest asked me to carry the cross as everyone was tired so I was holding the cross and put the niandra on headphones :D couldn't be a better oportunity to listen to it :D it sounded devilish as hell but it clicked to me then and is clicking ever since.

  • @teodorvasile3301
    @teodorvasile3301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    THanks for sharing! You both are a great inspiration to the real John Frusciante fans. Therefore thank you @Thony Gr and @Shane Combs

  • @finnthehero321
    @finnthehero321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What a king, been wonderin for years how niandra was recorded, thanks man super useful and i can finally sleep without havin to think abt it

  • @metal0189
    @metal0189 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3 years late but this is so amazing. You absolutly nailed this and I really feel inspired by this type of creativity that Johns music offers and that you have near perfectly recreated. Thank you❤

    • @-nathanschneider
      @-nathanschneider 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      th-cam.com/play/PLi9UJsZzsxFRs3phYPzQ6vhjQ9IumFVFi.html&si=7YnIKLC42byHjIwk

  • @e4i
    @e4i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I came hoping to have an answer regarding Running away into you and I've been really disappointed that it was done with a pedal and not the actual Tascam. Well, actually I was relieved as I now feel myself better with my Portastudio's skills :D
    Keep up the great stuff man!

  • @RypticVODS
    @RypticVODS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That last bit was interesting as shit. Thanks for the lesson, dude! Cheers.

  • @SenouyBoss
    @SenouyBoss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you man such unique and creative content !! Hope to see more lessons from you !

  • @UnremarkableMarx
    @UnremarkableMarx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah buddy. Wonderful console. These are the sounds that got me through high school. Rock on

  • @Dtravyed
    @Dtravyed 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Scott Weiland nailed the Niandra LaDes sound on his solo song "Chateau Mars"

    • @ThonyGr
      @ThonyGr  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cool song thx for sharing

  • @enterauh2070
    @enterauh2070 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super clear and right to the point. Awesome video!!

  • @dumbage
    @dumbage ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i’m gonna go make music now

  • @Flamengo1981
    @Flamengo1981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Extracool video, brother. Thanks for that.

  • @user-ze3sb6fw5c
    @user-ze3sb6fw5c 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can u do the same video, but about TROWFTD?

  • @HeitorIkedaTioBa
    @HeitorIkedaTioBa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nailed it

  • @nixnowt
    @nixnowt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, but cool thumbnail tho. I would use the image as a wallpaper or som

  • @BudSaLaD
    @BudSaLaD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks dude its so cool to see the whole process done on a tascam, one day I'll find a 424 I can actually afford!

    • @ThonyGr
      @ThonyGr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think some pawn shops are worth watching.

    • @shebamaree9026
      @shebamaree9026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      there is one on craigslist

    • @foodog777
      @foodog777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have owned a 424 for like 25 years now. I need to start using it again.

  • @siddthekid5046
    @siddthekid5046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing. Thanks for this video

  • @Vicky-gp2mw
    @Vicky-gp2mw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you so much for posting. there’s not many good videos about it out there really

  • @NegativeGhost
    @NegativeGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! That was amazing, thank you.

  • @ojobruma
    @ojobruma 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    beautiful

  • @fribersson
    @fribersson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow.

  • @maximillianomartinez
    @maximillianomartinez 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bless john

  • @Crybayb_
    @Crybayb_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i don’t think you can get the distortion using the tascam 424 mkiii because the dbx noise reduction is built in but i really appreciate this video it’s like my 20th time watching it for reference so thank you

  • @Lara160998
    @Lara160998 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing

  • @Walamonga1313
    @Walamonga1313 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting to see how to replicate those sounds. Now if only I had good gear

  • @tom.guitar22
    @tom.guitar22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is pretty epic

  • @patranizers4587
    @patranizers4587 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The man is A.M.A.Z.I.N.G. 💕

  • @borsaba
    @borsaba ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome

  • @MV-es3sk
    @MV-es3sk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So cool!!

  • @wellyo2926
    @wellyo2926 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible

  • @braedencarl3592
    @braedencarl3592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for this. What kind of theory would you recommend learning for a Niandra LaDes style sound?

    • @ThonyGr
      @ThonyGr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      th-cam.com/video/EzktQk2CuHA/w-d-xo.html

  • @aeuwsh093
    @aeuwsh093 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE this video. Btw also love your song!! Great great job

  • @esetkali6621
    @esetkali6621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thx man

  • @rhcpstrings
    @rhcpstrings ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video! This is so useful❤

  • @santa3468
    @santa3468 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m being dead seriously your song is great I love it

  • @97benjamin
    @97benjamin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks you so much, this info is so useful

  • @Themuffledsirens
    @Themuffledsirens 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Today is my birthday. Thank you for this;)

  • @sciant
    @sciant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would've lovd this when I was 15 jajshahahah great job man ur a god

  • @nogribin
    @nogribin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow.

  • @dreamingone615
    @dreamingone615 ปีที่แล้ว

    "...You hear their skin, their flesh..."
    Check. 😂

  • @Nashthomas-vu6yw
    @Nashthomas-vu6yw ปีที่แล้ว

    Gonna get a 4 track now

  • @mickkraviz
    @mickkraviz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey! I stumbled upon your video months ago and now decided to make a video myself about this kind of topic. I wanted to recreate untitled #6 with the gear I got, which is not the real deal haha. I really like the video you made and wanted to ask if I could use a small section of your video for context and cite it. Cheers 👍🏼

  • @josephferris4642
    @josephferris4642 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! Nailed the tones. Question, is one able to bypass actually recording to tape and somehow record thru straight to a DAW, but while running the input through the tape obviously.

  • @joeporter4920
    @joeporter4920 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have guessed he used an actual tape echo machine for the pitch changes and repeats

  • @Aidan.w
    @Aidan.w 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would the JHS Crayon be any good for recreating the distortion sound when playing through an amp?

  • @UnremarkableMarx
    @UnremarkableMarx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    *me and my friends talk about it

  • @starbell9962
    @starbell9962 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you digitize the tapes of you don't mind me asking (great video btw)

  • @jaydenvandersluys8477
    @jaydenvandersluys8477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great Video! Can you do one for Smile From The Streets You Hold?

  • @Sneaky_Sins
    @Sneaky_Sins 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So you connect the guitar to the portastudio & from that to amp?

  • @leonardoballi2817
    @leonardoballi2817 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:53 is that a goosebumps reference?

  • @Beans360
    @Beans360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    You forgot one thing... Heroin.

    • @marcobosshard3543
      @marcobosshard3543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      and coke

    • @JohnWeirdoe
      @JohnWeirdoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@marcobosshard3543 yeah...and heroin...or find compromise and get some speedball. Hey 8ball will do some magic too

    • @jules3317
      @jules3317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This album was record before he touched heroin

    • @Beans360
      @Beans360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jules3317 Not sure if that was true. He may of not been a full blown junkie but I think he was doing heroin and other drugs when recording the album.

    • @jules3317
      @jules3317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Beans360 well he recorded these songs during the time where they started making blood sugar sex magic with the red hot the mix took him like 3 years so it’s not record during his addiction but it was at least mixed during his addiction. But if you’re looking for a record where he was in real deep addiction during the recording sessions it’s the album smile you hold from the street

  • @justinswartzlander5611
    @justinswartzlander5611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    can anyone help me out? i just bought a tascam 424 porta mk1 what do need to do to get the thing to record my guitar i have it plugged in and i have my guitar plugged into it and i just can’t get it to work. thank you so much

  • @pietro4311
    @pietro4311 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do all of this with a digital 4 track? Like a Dp 006?

  • @dumbage
    @dumbage ปีที่แล้ว

    how do you make the sound at the beginning of going inside also seen on other niandraLaDes songs i’ve heard you just sing into your guitar pickups but i dosent work with mine

    • @dumbage
      @dumbage 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      plug amp into compressor pedal.

  • @bat6876
    @bat6876 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro nice video, I really want to try recoriding on tape and as i can see john dont used too much gear back the

    • @ThonyGr
      @ThonyGr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Less is more

  • @InfoAccademia
    @InfoAccademia ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello! what kind of cassettes do you use for recording?

    • @ThonyGr
      @ThonyGr  ปีที่แล้ว

      Maxell XLII 90

  • @niandra2810
    @niandra2810 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello! could the tascam portastudio 464 version have the same sound?

    • @ThonyGr
      @ThonyGr  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've never tried a 464, but I think they sound similar.

    • @niandra2810
      @niandra2810 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThonyGr thank you very much, also for the content you publish
      keep up the good work

  • @regandunn4850
    @regandunn4850 ปีที่แล้ว

    Think Syd Barratt and start with a clean sound

  • @castrucciocastracani0
    @castrucciocastracani0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the best digital alternative?

    • @ThonyGr
      @ThonyGr  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want to record with a DAW, I recommend you to plug directly your guitar into your interface without using any amp sim. Just use the preamp of the interface and add some form of "cassette tape" plugin to the guitar bus.

  • @Jmilillo
    @Jmilillo ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that the exact 4 track that Frusciante used to record Niandra? That same model?

  • @cherrykoolaiddisasters
    @cherrykoolaiddisasters 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What 4track did you use in this?

    • @ThonyGr
      @ThonyGr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tascam Portastudio Mk1

  • @inrainbows1829
    @inrainbows1829 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to sound like John Frusciante
    4 track recorder talent and lots of good heroin
    I tried to sound like John and all I got was hepatitis and now 4 years sober 😂😂
    True story

    • @lowandodor1150
      @lowandodor1150 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is why you should never try to sound like someone you are not. ˘J˘
      How do you sound now, sober and clean?

  • @iudhwj2o2ohf53
    @iudhwj2o2ohf53 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, Tascam Portastudio is too expensive for me, can you recommend an inexpensive alternative for $ 150-200?

    • @raynefaded
      @raynefaded 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There isn't one, if you want an actual 4-track. Hipster indie artists made the prices skyrocket, even though they were a bit limited and could be trashy.

    • @janipashkvan797
      @janipashkvan797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Get a Korg 4tracker

    • @grungepants
      @grungepants 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just buy a cheap cassette recorder and record your songs on to that and then record the tape back into the computer.

    • @janipashkvan797
      @janipashkvan797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Korg model
      Zmelkoow

  • @gastonhormazabal8451
    @gastonhormazabal8451 ปีที่แล้ว

    this video is beautiful, just it is.🤍

  • @Blkac-pill-Black-Life
    @Blkac-pill-Black-Life 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    dude love your channel pls do more covers

  • @divyamtibrewal7842
    @divyamtibrewal7842 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing