Pathfinder fans eating good with 2 Mythkeeper uploads at the same time. Edit: unless the Region Deepdive wasn't intended for the wider audience until a later date
Hey, a Korean fan here. Our games have been so rich thanks to your videos, and we are super excited about Tian Xia! So,,,presuming that Hwanggot is loosely based on ancient/medieval Korea, its meaning should probably be...Hwan (Sino-Korean word for 'ring' and Ggot (native Korean word for flower), as its flag seems to be depicting a ring of flowers, and it is called the Kingdom of Flowers. However, since it's very rare for a Korean word to consist of both a Chiense character and a native Korean word, the PF fans here in Korea tend to think the name means 'Bright Flower', as 'hwan' can also mean 'brightness' in native Korean. The reason we don't usually mix Chinese and native Korean syllables together to make a word is...well, kind of like the word 'telephone' isn't written as 'televoice' or 'farphone'. Sounds weird. Just wanted to say that it probably isn't 'Hwang Got', but 'Hwan Ggot' (with the gg sound similar to a Spanish q).
Thanks so much for the pronunciation tip here. In future I will pronounce it closer to Hwan Qot! This is awesome. I do try and say everything as close to correct as I can. Its a lot of cultural and linguistic reference points packaged into this setting - so I know I get stuff wrong all the time. And yes, Hwanggot is totally a Korea analog and I can't wait to do the Hwanggot region deep dive.
The world and the naga empire: collapses entirely Nagajor somehow: continues the naga royal bloodline of Nalinivati for thousand of years through sheer federalism
Also if you look at the Tian Xia Character Guide, first image in the book, you'll see that they're remarkably accurate. The clockwork horrors look a lot like Cryx warmachines. Unfortunately at the time of making this that book wasn't out yet so I had to use these instead. Still works 😅
Finally finding time again to watch what happened on your channel after some rough weeks. Glad to see you're still as strong as ever. Can't wait to give all recent videos a watch today!
Good idea to split into more sections, it is a continental size region after all(curious on the elves of tian-xa, how they differ from their compatriots on other portions of golarion). A certain website likened forest of spirits region to princess mononoke, while painting taldor as either golarion's byzantine empire(more charitable) or inbred nobles/spain(the less charitable) picture. Ofc said website assumes the reader at least knows or has some knowledge of region's actual lore first. Hopefully we get to arcadia and azlant too.
Will we also be seeing major philosophies covered in the Tian Xia religion and/or region deep dive videos? I'd love to learn more abour the followers of Pao Do (hope i remembered that right) that brought down Aolin, the philosophy of the Ruby Phoenix and wherher they have ever conflicted with the former organization, as well as communism and other philosophies (both Golarion originals and those based on the world of earth)
There is some coverage of Tian philosophies in my religion video - however the specific ones you name here aren't covered in that video. Those (like communism or Pu Duo and the silk network) will end up either as faction guides, or more likely, detailed in the relevant Region Deepdives.
i like what they did with tian xia, i feel like the writer definitely did the their homework and there are clear parallel with real world history. Changdo is a clear example to a parallel Chengdu one of china's earliest capital and a very important one. even geographically it kinda match up. and its current age seem to have very strong parallel to the warlord era. i do have one gripe as in china is know for extremely impressive civil engineering feat. a great wall aside. there should be at some point a great canal that connect Goka to changdo. it seems like if this is real world china they would totally do something like that.
Having a great canal between Goka and Changdo does absolutely sound like something that might have been built. Pathfinder is covered with things like the Arch of Aroden (or all the Thassilonian stuff in Varisia) - basically unbelievable feats of civil engineering that have fallen to collapse and ruin. Perhaps such a thing existed in the time of Yixing or Shu and has since been destroyed - now its up to your players to figure out how to repair it. ;-)
So going by real life equivalents: Hongal = Mongolia Shaguang = Xinjiang Kaoling = Manchuria Forest of Spirits and Minkai = Japan Zi Ha = Tibet Amanandar = British Hong Kong Tianjing = Thailand (judging by the temple on the flag) Goka = Macau or Singapore Bachuan & Hwangott = North and South Korea Dtang Ma & Xa Hoi = Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia Minata = Indonesia or Philippines
@@TheMythkeeper Having finally watched the whole video... Holy hells, a Most Excellent piece of work, and what an ambitious series to embark upon. I'm super excited to see it all unfold.💥👏💥
I’ve always liked the idea of Earthsea. A world is Islands, big and small, spread far and wide. Some reason this made me think of that. I’m very curious about the local Nagas and how they live alongside humans.
yes, I have been looking foward to this one. I have a question though. did the silk network completely erase Aolins existence from the records, or did they make so Aolin actually relinquished his power when asked by Shinonome?
Y’ know, there’s a lot more room to build a kingdom in Tian Xia than the Inner Sea Region it seems. Kaiju land sounds fun. What could possibly go wrong?
I wonder what Xa Hoi does with all their dragons. The dragons are long lived, yet their (literal) dragon kings and queens rule for something like 200 years each, which is something the human could achieve through magic in universe of Pathfinder, and is short for the dragon. If they all died, the country probably have highest dragon mortality in the world. If they served their terms, and stepped down, to mimic the human rule, then Xa Hoi has probbaly the highest number of ancient dragons still lazing around.
I'll get to a Xa Hoi deepdive in time, but I think it's the latter. They have a high number of ancient dragons, and most live in their mountains after they retire from kingship.
Been here for a little bit over a year now it has been a long time since I was so excited for upcoming TH-cam content, especially for the new regional deep dives. One question though, as you probably read all of this: where did you get the pronounciation of all the states? I have noticed that it is somehow inconsistent through the video, for example the "x" in regional names. I was kind of expecting a consistent ruling about latin phonetics, something like pinyin for mandarin. This is not supposed a criticism, but I figured that you're the type of guy who is interested in that kind of details.
Yeah I'm trying my best, but I know I have gotten some stuff wrong. My understanding is that X may have multiple pronunciations. XI is always SH as in shout. (Like in Tian Xia). This is similar to how in Italian CA like in CACAO is pronounced KA, but CIA as in CIAO is pronounced CHA (the I 'softens' the consonant). XH is always harder; more like a Z (but still kind of SHy, like ZH perhaps...). So far example XHAI XHEN XIAO is Zhai Zhen Shiao The only Asian language I ever partly learned was Indonesian which is a much simpler phonetic language, and I have no grounding in Chinese where a lot of this comes from, so I may have gotten some bad advice here. But I can promise that I'm trying to pronounce everything correctly.
@@TheMythkeeper as someome who tried to learn chinese, i completly feel you. Tian Xia is also inspired by many real cultures, so unless paizo explicitly says us how to pronounce, we don't know for sure.
idk if people have thought of this before but what if the valashai and the vesk are the same, the valashai had catfolk slaves, and there are aliens that are suspiciously like cats in the veskarium
I like how well integrated Tian Xia feels with the rest of Golarion, and not some Orientalist non-sense exotic land (*cough* Oriental Adventures *cough*)
Okay, so the lands with the Teikoku Shogunate/Minkai is basically Japanese, while the rest of Tian Xia are various mainland Asia (China, Mongolia, Thailand, etc) I just wanted to know which country to have my Ronin character come from lol.
Minkai (formerly Teikoku Shogunate) is the most obvious place, but other options might include Chu Ye (heavy Minkai influence there, but now controlled by Oni) or even Songbai (liberated by a samurai from Minkai). Or an elven Ronin from Jinin if that's interesting.
Wait, so the animal people in Pathfinder are ALIENS!?! Good gosh, I love this setting. In all seriousness, this was a fun video, and I look forward to another year of fun Pathfinder stuff. Though I’m annoyed I have to wait 2 weeks to get the new religion video . . .
I hope that this region has a more united overall feel. The inner sea is great of course, but its design philosophy was separate, thematically distinct regions that barely interacted with each other, which made it look somewhat fake.
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Finally, I can figure out where all that ink I keep picking up in Wrath of the Righteous comes from.
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Pathfinder fans eating good with 2 Mythkeeper uploads at the same time.
Edit: unless the Region Deepdive wasn't intended for the wider audience until a later date
Yeah! Haha my Razmiran video comes in 4 weeks! So sorry about that!!! 😅
@TheMythKeeper Don't worry. I got notified about a member's only video before, even though I'm not one. Not the first time
I can't believe you commissioned a map just for your videos. That's really going the extra mile. Rob McCaleb does make some stunning maps.
Well worth it, I love these maps!
I’ve only played Pathfinder twice but feel like I already know so much about the lore thanks to your videos.
You're very welcome!
Hey, a Korean fan here. Our games have been so rich thanks to your videos, and we are super excited about Tian Xia!
So,,,presuming that Hwanggot is loosely based on ancient/medieval Korea, its meaning should probably be...Hwan (Sino-Korean word for 'ring' and Ggot (native Korean word for flower), as its flag seems to be depicting a ring of flowers, and it is called the Kingdom of Flowers.
However, since it's very rare for a Korean word to consist of both a Chiense character and a native Korean word, the PF fans here in Korea tend to think the name means 'Bright Flower', as 'hwan' can also mean 'brightness' in native Korean.
The reason we don't usually mix Chinese and native Korean syllables together to make a word is...well, kind of like the word 'telephone' isn't written as 'televoice' or 'farphone'. Sounds weird.
Just wanted to say that it probably isn't 'Hwang Got', but 'Hwan Ggot' (with the gg sound similar to a Spanish q).
Thanks so much for the pronunciation tip here. In future I will pronounce it closer to Hwan Qot! This is awesome. I do try and say everything as close to correct as I can. Its a lot of cultural and linguistic reference points packaged into this setting - so I know I get stuff wrong all the time. And yes, Hwanggot is totally a Korea analog and I can't wait to do the Hwanggot region deep dive.
Been waiting for Mythkeeper to delve over my favorite Golarion setting. THE RAIN HAS FALLEN, OUR CROPS WILL GROW HEALTHY BROTHERS
You're so welcome!
Haven’t played a single ttrpg but I’ve watched nearly all of your videos and check in often. Thanks a bunch
This is wild! Thanks so much for watching 🙂
Our trek around Golarion continues. I didn’t know about that Sky City that is pretty cool.
Last of the sky cities!
*Golarion. You got your As and your Os backwards.
The world and the naga empire: collapses entirely
Nagajor somehow: continues the naga royal bloodline of Nalinivati for thousand of years through sheer federalism
This is true
I love that you used 28:48 Iron Kindoms images Cryx are such cool looking characters
Also if you look at the Tian Xia Character Guide, first image in the book, you'll see that they're remarkably accurate. The clockwork horrors look a lot like Cryx warmachines. Unfortunately at the time of making this that book wasn't out yet so I had to use these instead. Still works 😅
@ hey good art is good art, as is great content thank you for doing all this work to make these videos!
Hao Jin is worth a deep dive in her own history and experience. It's good to see she wasn't overlooked in the vast history of the region.
She totally is. One of my favorites!
A land once united will break. A land once broke will unite
Thanks for video.
That is a great introduction.
You're very welcome! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for one more amazing video, waiting for the sequence exploring the Celestial Court.
That one's already on the club channel. It'll hit the main channel very soon.
Finally finding time again to watch what happened on your channel after some rough weeks. Glad to see you're still as strong as ever. Can't wait to give all recent videos a watch today!
Thank you sir!
Good timing with the latest release from Paizo. Looking forward to the deep dives when they're ready.
Thank you!
YESSSS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS REGION
I think this is a good one! Hope you enjoy!
Good idea to split into more sections, it is a continental size region after all(curious on the elves of tian-xa, how they differ from their compatriots on other portions of golarion).
A certain website likened forest of spirits region to princess mononoke, while painting taldor as either golarion's byzantine empire(more charitable) or inbred nobles/spain(the less charitable) picture. Ofc said website assumes the reader at least knows or has some knowledge of region's actual lore first.
Hopefully we get to arcadia and azlant too.
Eventually I will get to Arcadia and the ruins of Azlant as well!
I love this channel so fuckin much bro
Thank you!
Great, informative video as always! Thanks so much.
You're very welcome!
I love how theres a TON of dynasty warrior stuff mixed in
😂
Great video!
It i an interesting place to explore.
I have a Question, here we have a "Godzilla"....there is a "Kong"? in Golarion?
Thx for the video!
If you watched my recent Vudra video, you'll know that there is totally a King Kong equivalent in Vudra.
Always wished we had more eastern fantasy settings for trpgs. I hope we can get a Pathfinder videogame set in Ming Kai or something.
That would be cool! Though we get so few PF games as it is, I'd be surprised to see it.
Will we also be seeing major philosophies covered in the Tian Xia religion and/or region deep dive videos? I'd love to learn more abour the followers of Pao Do (hope i remembered that right) that brought down Aolin, the philosophy of the Ruby Phoenix and wherher they have ever conflicted with the former organization, as well as communism and other philosophies (both Golarion originals and those based on the world of earth)
There is some coverage of Tian philosophies in my religion video - however the specific ones you name here aren't covered in that video. Those (like communism or Pu Duo and the silk network) will end up either as faction guides, or more likely, detailed in the relevant Region Deepdives.
I'm here to learn about my favorite species, the wayangs! :D
Very little wayang content in this one, but more in the future
i like what they did with tian xia, i feel like the writer definitely did the their homework and there are clear parallel with real world history. Changdo is a clear example to a parallel Chengdu one of china's earliest capital and a very important one. even geographically it kinda match up.
and its current age seem to have very strong parallel to the warlord era.
i do have one gripe as in china is know for extremely impressive civil engineering feat. a great wall aside. there should be at some point a great canal that connect Goka to changdo. it seems like if this is real world china they would totally do something like that.
Having a great canal between Goka and Changdo does absolutely sound like something that might have been built. Pathfinder is covered with things like the Arch of Aroden (or all the Thassilonian stuff in Varisia) - basically unbelievable feats of civil engineering that have fallen to collapse and ruin. Perhaps such a thing existed in the time of Yixing or Shu and has since been destroyed - now its up to your players to figure out how to repair it. ;-)
Tian xia time🎉
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So going by real life equivalents:
Hongal = Mongolia
Shaguang = Xinjiang
Kaoling = Manchuria
Forest of Spirits and Minkai = Japan
Zi Ha = Tibet
Amanandar = British Hong Kong
Tianjing = Thailand (judging by the temple on the flag)
Goka = Macau or Singapore
Bachuan & Hwangott = North and South Korea
Dtang Ma & Xa Hoi = Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia
Minata = Indonesia or Philippines
That's fairly accurate
Cool video!
Thank you!
We're gonna be eating good over the next year. Also saursan mentioned. Still hoping for that further down the line
Eventually 😆
@@TheMythkeeper im patient
Hot dang, can't wait to see this, but gonna have to save for after work. Been looking forward to this one a long time. ❤️🔥
Hope you enjoy!
@@TheMythkeeper Having finally watched the whole video... Holy hells, a Most Excellent piece of work, and what an ambitious series to embark upon. I'm super excited to see it all unfold.💥👏💥
I’ve always liked the idea of Earthsea. A world is Islands, big and small, spread far and wide. Some reason this made me think of that.
I’m very curious about the local Nagas and how they live alongside humans.
We'll get to Nagajor in time ;-)
Love Tian Xia
Amaizing video 👏👏👏
Thank you so much!
yes, I have been looking foward to this one. I have a question though. did the silk network completely erase Aolins existence from the records, or did they make so Aolin actually relinquished his power when asked by Shinonome?
I think they fully redacted him, except perhaps as Empress Shu's general and original unifier. (As a mortal man.)
42:59 WELL, IF IT ISN'T MY FAVORITE BANDIT QUEEN!
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Freaking stoked for this. Literally searched this last night hoping you had covered it. Excited!
It was about damn time 🙂
Can't wait for the Minata episode!
That's one of the later episodes, so you'll have a bit of a wait on your hands 😅
Aliens and Leng? Tian Xia is growing on me...
haha right!?
Y’ know, there’s a lot more room to build a kingdom in Tian Xia than the Inner Sea Region it seems. Kaiju land sounds fun. What could possibly go wrong?
🤣
I love that they worked on Kaiju lol
It's great right?
Oh HELL YEAH, NAGAJI TIME, BABAY! GLORY TO NAGAJOR! GLORY TO THE MOTHER, NALINIVATI!
😅
I wonder what Xa Hoi does with all their dragons. The dragons are long lived, yet their (literal) dragon kings and queens rule for something like 200 years each, which is something the human could achieve through magic in universe of Pathfinder, and is short for the dragon. If they all died, the country probably have highest dragon mortality in the world. If they served their terms, and stepped down, to mimic the human rule, then Xa Hoi has probbaly the highest number of ancient dragons still lazing around.
I'll get to a Xa Hoi deepdive in time, but I think it's the latter. They have a high number of ancient dragons, and most live in their mountains after they retire from kingship.
@@TheMythkeeper Looking forward to it, thank you
Been here for a little bit over a year now it has been a long time since I was so excited for upcoming TH-cam content, especially for the new regional deep dives.
One question though, as you probably read all of this: where did you get the pronounciation of all the states? I have noticed that it is somehow inconsistent through the video, for example the "x" in regional names. I was kind of expecting a consistent ruling about latin phonetics, something like pinyin for mandarin.
This is not supposed a criticism, but I figured that you're the type of guy who is interested in that kind of details.
Yeah I'm trying my best, but I know I have gotten some stuff wrong. My understanding is that X may have multiple pronunciations. XI is always SH as in shout. (Like in Tian Xia). This is similar to how in Italian CA like in CACAO is pronounced KA, but CIA as in CIAO is pronounced CHA (the I 'softens' the consonant).
XH is always harder; more like a Z (but still kind of SHy, like ZH perhaps...). So far example XHAI XHEN XIAO is Zhai Zhen Shiao
The only Asian language I ever partly learned was Indonesian which is a much simpler phonetic language, and I have no grounding in Chinese where a lot of this comes from, so I may have gotten some bad advice here. But I can promise that I'm trying to pronounce everything correctly.
@@TheMythkeeper as someome who tried to learn chinese, i completly feel you. Tian Xia is also inspired by many real cultures, so unless paizo explicitly says us how to pronounce, we don't know for sure.
idk if people have thought of this before but what if the valashai and the vesk are the same, the valashai had catfolk slaves, and there are aliens that are suspiciously like cats in the veskarium
Love this idea. 😅
@@TheMythkeeper I mean the valashai were like 15ft tall but who's to say that wasn't exaggerated
@@happygoluka9367 Yeah, maybe there just 7 or 8 feet tall. That could be a big Vesk.
I like how well integrated Tian Xia feels with the rest of Golarion, and not some Orientalist non-sense exotic land (*cough* Oriental Adventures *cough*)
Pathfinder always does a good job of making its world feel like real history.
So that is where warwitch Deneghra ended up. and Deathjack is there to keep her safe
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10:36 is that image from The Legends of the Five Rings ttrpg? Or os it just a fairly common/historical image?
From L5R - heaps of images here are sourced from L5R actually 😅
The Lands of mystery
Okay, so the lands with the Teikoku Shogunate/Minkai is basically Japanese, while the rest of Tian Xia are various mainland Asia (China, Mongolia, Thailand, etc)
I just wanted to know which country to have my Ronin character come from lol.
Minkai (formerly Teikoku Shogunate) is the most obvious place, but other options might include Chu Ye (heavy Minkai influence there, but now controlled by Oni) or even Songbai (liberated by a samurai from Minkai). Or an elven Ronin from Jinin if that's interesting.
Wait, so the animal people in Pathfinder are ALIENS!?!
Good gosh, I love this setting.
In all seriousness, this was a fun video, and I look forward to another year of fun Pathfinder stuff. Though I’m annoyed I have to wait 2 weeks to get the new religion video . . .
Yeah, they're a whole different breed of catfolk and frogfolk in Tian Xia. 😆
Is there enough information to do deep dives of all the regions? I didn't know that
There sure are! Some of these will be longer than others, but there's enough for a deep dive in each.
So the name "Dragon Empires" they ain't frikin' lying. Not one bit.
Very literal
Agamazar looks like the Arbiter from Halo
He does!
Ah yes, the teikoku shogunate. Or translated to english, the "empire" shogunate. I love fantasy naming conventions lmao
Where do you find all the information for these videos?
Paizo has published _A LOT_ of books
@@TheMythkeeper I will need to look into them!
🤓nice
Thank you!
Is there a samurai class?
Yes in PF1E, it’s a variant of the cavalier
Aolin brothers? Two in human drag?? Too late, it’s headcanon now 😅
I should have said siblings!
Aolin did nothing wrong.
😅
I hope that this region has a more united overall feel. The inner sea is great of course, but its design philosophy was separate, thematically distinct regions that barely interacted with each other, which made it look somewhat fake.
58:43 Tian Xia is going to learn the hard truths about communism the hard way it seems. Imagine what Mao would have done with access to magic 😬