Thanks for sharing your thoughts. You helped me a lot with this wave tamp. I have bought Oracle Jet just few days ago and was very worried seeing waves when using single basket. Now I understand where it comes from. Double tap to short clean is a good tip too, didnt know about, was started and stoping manually. Ps. I dont want to be cheeky but am I right to hear very tiny Polish accent in your voice? 😉
Do you notice any difference in taste between the first shot after turning on the machine and the second or third? I saw a Coffee Corner review where they mentioned the sweet spot for this machine is around the 4th or 5th shot, once everything is properly warmed up. Do you find that to be true?
The wavy tamp is common across all Oracles. Just run a warm up shot through the basket first as it needs to be a little damp so that the puck doesn't slip when the fan is pushing into it.
@@adammaik yea, dont know why but for me its just a problem with the naked porta filter as well. Got an IMS precision basket and the original naked porta filter (black one tho) and was getting crazy when i couldnt get an even tamp. With the dampening shot its perfect all the time and it also heats up the filter basket which is a nice bonus
@@adammaik yeah a lot of people have the same issue with the standard one too. It might be that your naked filter basket is a little more polished than your standard one, making it worse. I've heard you can roughen up the sides of it with sandpaper to make it stick better.
It's lower protein count can make it challenging, especially in automatic mode. Manual mode allows you to incorporate much more air, with better results. Better but not ideal. Dairy still rules there.
The top and back panels are plastic, but the sides and front (both around the display and in the brewing area) are painted and polished steel. You can verify this using the magical power of magnets!
Mostly because of spouse rant. The dosing was very inconsistent from shot to shot, often asking to grind a little more, little more, requiring to press the lever 10-15 times in those micro adjustments.
I’m wondering why the basket in the naked portfafilter doesn’t line up like it should given it’s specifically designed for the 58mm Oracle machines. Any ideas?
Think you said that you're using the original basket in the naked portafilter? If that's correct and it's sitting lower it implies the tabs/ wings on the portafilter are set higher on the sides or are thinner. One thing to try... before grinding, wet the basket first and wipe with a cloth but leave the basket damp. The resulting waves you are getting often occur on the oracle series if the basket is dry. The dampness allows the grinds to adhere a bit to the basket and then themselves so the fan-tamp motion doesn't just spin the grinds over themselves.
I also don't understand why you can't see the updates. How do the developers envisage this? In the worst case scenario, an update like this could pass you by completely without you knowing the latest function.
I believe it’s their personal choice. I was psyched a year ago when this rumor was floating around for a connected machine. I thought I might be able to export or view on Breville (under my account) statistics for brewing. None of that is available. If machine collects any sort of telemetry, then it’s for Breville eyes only. And if it doesn’t, then it’s a missed opportunity.
@KejtDomowe from what I see heating element cycle and pre-infusion behave slightly different. It’s also more quiet, pump seems to work better. Good luck with getting anything from Breville or Sage customer support. They are often clueless. Btw. Love your YT handle. Very Polish :-)
@@silwerston Well, the Touch Impress doesn't have an automatic tamper, just an integrated one. The grinder is also not as well built and is less consistent with no distribution. The Jet also has much better temperature stability and true volumetric output. In short, the Touch Impress is a good machine, but the Jet makes better coffee.
@silwerston I have both machines, and the Jet doesn't need an additional tamper. He uses one in the video because the bottomless portafilter he bought isn't the same height, and he doesn't want to adjust the auto tamp fan to compensate.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. You helped me a lot with this wave tamp. I have bought Oracle Jet just few days ago and was very worried seeing waves when using single basket. Now I understand where it comes from. Double tap to short clean is a good tip too, didnt know about, was started and stoping manually. Ps. I dont want to be cheeky but am I right to hear very tiny Polish accent in your voice? 😉
Guilty as charged :-)
@@adammaik I wish my British English was as good as yours American 😁👍
@KejtDomowe and here we’re, pointing out my impossible to mask accent 😂
Where did you find a white one? I’ve only seen the stainless offered in canada.
Give it time. Eventually you’ll see all 4 colors. They don’t release them in all regions at the same time.
Do you notice any difference in taste between the first shot after turning on the machine and the second or third? I saw a Coffee Corner review where they mentioned the sweet spot for this machine is around the 4th or 5th shot, once everything is properly warmed up. Do you find that to be true?
That applies to almost any auto and super automatic. I always recommend preheating portafilter and cup once by simply running a cycle without beans.
@@adammaik Yeah, I see. Strange that he recommends to run at least 2 empty cycles, but 3 is most optimal in his opinion.
@@jurig5579multiple dry runs kind of takes the speed from making coffee :-)
The wavy tamp is common across all Oracles. Just run a warm up shot through the basket first as it needs to be a little damp so that the puck doesn't slip when the fan is pushing into it.
Only for Naked Portafilter? As it’s a no issue for a standard one. I have pointed out that normally we do run a cycle through it first.
@@adammaik yea, dont know why but for me its just a problem with the naked porta filter as well. Got an IMS precision basket and the original naked porta filter (black one tho) and was getting crazy when i couldnt get an even tamp. With the dampening shot its perfect all the time and it also heats up the filter basket which is a nice bonus
@@adammaik yeah a lot of people have the same issue with the standard one too. It might be that your naked filter basket is a little more polished than your standard one, making it worse. I've heard you can roughen up the sides of it with sandpaper to make it stick better.
Was thinking of buying one but now moving towards to rancilio Silvia pro x, Profitec move or ascaso duo plus
If you want more control and got the space for it, go for separates :)
Can you please add links for naked portafilter and temper that you are using 🙏🏻
You’ll find them here
www.breville.com/en-us/landing/craft-premium-espresso-accessories
Whats the height of the machine with the bean hopper included? trying to figure out if it fits underneath my cupboards. Thanks a lot!
17 inches.
Our oracle jet seems to usually end up at grind settings 34-39. Are your beans medium or light roasted?
Mine are light roasted and I am from 30 to 40 usually
Mines are medium and I‘m around 36-40. Just received the „welcome“ package of freshly roasted beans. I will try the, this week.
What is the dose in the naked basket? Is it still 22g as per the original?
Sadly without adjusting the fan height you still get anything between 22 to 23.5
You can buy a basket that holds 16-18 etc. so easy fix if you want to
Does this machine froth almond milk to be as creamy as regular milk?
It's lower protein count can make it challenging, especially in automatic mode.
Manual mode allows you to incorporate much more air, with better results.
Better but not ideal. Dairy still rules there.
The top and back panels are plastic, but the sides and front (both around the display and in the brewing area) are painted and polished steel. You can verify this using the magical power of magnets!
Thanks for this correction :)
Why did you upgrade from Touch Impress?
Mostly because of spouse rant.
The dosing was very inconsistent from shot to shot, often asking to grind a little more, little more, requiring to press the lever 10-15 times in those micro adjustments.
I’m wondering why the basket in the naked portfafilter doesn’t line up like it should given it’s specifically designed for the 58mm Oracle machines. Any ideas?
@@drlodge in your personal experience? Or the use case of Breville one in the video?
@adammaik as in the video
Think you said that you're using the original basket in the naked portafilter? If that's correct and it's sitting lower it implies the tabs/ wings on the portafilter are set higher on the sides or are thinner.
One thing to try... before grinding, wet the basket first and wipe with a cloth but leave the basket damp. The resulting waves you are getting often occur on the oracle series if the basket is dry. The dampness allows the grinds to adhere a bit to the basket and then themselves so the fan-tamp motion doesn't just spin the grinds over themselves.
I also don't understand why you can't see the updates. How do the developers envisage this? In the worst case scenario, an update like this could pass you by completely without you knowing the latest function.
I believe it’s their personal choice. I was psyched a year ago when this rumor was floating around for a connected machine.
I thought I might be able to export or view on Breville (under my account) statistics for brewing.
None of that is available. If machine collects any sort of telemetry, then it’s for Breville eyes only.
And if it doesn’t, then it’s a missed opportunity.
I had an update last week to version 2.7 and sent a question to Sage - Im waiting for their advise what has been updated
@KejtDomowe from what I see heating element cycle and pre-infusion behave slightly different. It’s also more quiet, pump seems to work better.
Good luck with getting anything from Breville or Sage customer support. They are often clueless.
Btw. Love your YT handle. Very Polish :-)
Medium to medium light.
Old style barrista touch impress automatic tamper is better i see... i dont see the reason to buy oracle jet just to have better screen.
@@silwerston Well, the Touch Impress doesn't have an automatic tamper, just an integrated one. The grinder is also not as well built and is less consistent with no distribution. The Jet also has much better temperature stability and true volumetric output.
In short, the Touch Impress is a good machine, but the Jet makes better coffee.
@fuzziestlumpkin as you can see in the video, the automatic one doesn't necessarily whip the coffee well if you also need an external tamper
@silwerston I have both machines, and the Jet doesn't need an additional tamper. He uses one in the video because the bottomless portafilter he bought isn't the same height, and he doesn't want to adjust the auto tamp fan to compensate.
@@silwerstonyou don’t need an extra tamp. The Jet is much better