The Breville Oracle Jet, Dual Boiler and Bambino Plus (Home User Test)

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  • @Swimmingforlife.
    @Swimmingforlife. 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hiya Jimmy
    Many moons ago I owned the Sage Oracle, that’s what they were called in the U.K., had a few problems with it, when descaling the machine it always tripped all my power in the house. Contacted Sage who in turn told me to send it back to the dedicated repair centre in England, sadly it got damaged in transit but fair doos to Sage, bang it was replaced with a new machine. Great machine to use, I bought my daughter the Bambino Plus, she loves it, both her and her husband love it for what they need, 2 to 4 coffees a day. Like one of your other comments, I to sold my Sage Oracle, I actually got it fully serviced before I sold it, I bought my dream machine, LM Linea Mini, I just love it. I don’t know about Australia but when I had my Sage (Breville) there was only one company in the U.K. who was authorized to repair them, if you phoned anyone else, you got the same answer, sorry but we can’t get spares for them, you will have to contact the authorized repair company.
    Great video Jimmy, and yes they are great machines.
    Kindest regards from Scotland,
    Johnny

    • @Conservator.
      @Conservator. 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I can get just about any spare part for any hand made Italian espresso machine, even if they are 20 year old.
      Not having spare parts available is a major turn off for me.

  • @Laz_Arus
    @Laz_Arus 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I bought the revised DBL boiler (BES920) shortly after that version was released. About 18 months ago it developed a leaky o-ring for the steam boiler and after research changed that myself. While I had the lid off I changed all the remaining o-rings while I was in there. Call it preventative maintenance. At the same time, I also did the "slayer" mod and that has been helpful quite frequently, especially when dialing in a new batch of home-roasted coffee when I had set the grinder too coarse for the first extraction.
    Other than that leaky o-ring the machine has been faultless. I have done a couple of de-scales, but that was more for the experience than the need as I always use filtered water.
    The only annoyance with the BES920, and it's minor, is the lack of a dual wall steam wand. I always need to use a moist or wet towel to get it clean after use.
    Do I feel the urge to upgrade to a newer machine? Not really. The consistency has been great and my workflow has been tuned to an almost zen-like state when it's time for a cuppa.

  • @bensadler874
    @bensadler874 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I own a Breville DB. Had it 7 years now. No regrets. I’m not sure anything matched it for the price with the features it had. Have it paired with the Eureka Atom 75. If you are new to espresso then this is a great buy. Plenty of capability for the price with programmable pre-infusion and a host of other features like auto start in the am. And for newbs who love milk based drinks the steam wand is incredibly forgiving as it doesn’t have the steam power of say your more prosumer machines. Downside you won’t be steaming a 500ml jug of milk with this machine. Paid I think AUD $1200 back in the day and it included the Breville Smart Grinder Pro which served me well until I wanted to up my espresso game.

  • @jacobsander9420
    @jacobsander9420 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I also owned a Breville DB. It was a beast. It was my 4th coffee machine I went through, now on my fifth. It does pretty much everything a home barista could ask for. The standard 58mm portafilter, a good vibration pump providing great espresso, and the steam quality is imo the best for Breville machines around that price point. I partnered it with the DF64 and it got me a couple years of great fun and I still miss the modern look of it. Even went through a stage where i tore it open and had to replace one of the circuits. Ultimately I sold it again, and went for my dream Linea Mini. A bit overkill for a home espresso setup, but I love it and won't be leaving it anytime soon!

    • @bobby350z
      @bobby350z 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Any reason to go over 4 machines? Did the previous ones died?

    • @jacobsander9420
      @jacobsander9420 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bobby350z Haha no nothing like that. It's just the ladder you take when you start a hobby :) I started with a capsule machine and a $2 hand frother from ikea. Then I really wanted to get into espresso and something about a milk steamer wowed me, so i got a small $150 Sunbeam Cafe Espresso 2 i think it was called? That was great until the build quality really showed in the portafilter. Then i moved onto a Breville Duo temp pro, which was much nicer than the sunbeam in terms of build quality and accessories. I quickly became more in love with breville machines and wished for a more powerful steamer, and the ability to steam and brew consecutively. So the dual boiler was the next machine in line. I owned that machine for years and it served me well. If you're ever going for a Breville machine and are interested in the espresso side, its so good. I believe Lance Hedrick is also a great fan of it, and has modified it pressure profile. BUT after all that, I new i'd enjoy this for the long run, and Breville just isnt meant to last more than a couple years at most. Its a domestic machine that's great for small enthusiast. I've always loved LM as a brand, and always dreamed of having a Linea Mini on my bench, until I grabbed one for a great deal and sold my Breville. It was the best decision I've made, sure there are cheaper DB machines out there that have pressure profiling and cool tech like the Lelit Bianca and Decent, but that was not in my interest range. The Linea Mini pulls great shots back to back, the steam is unbelievable and I'd never go back, it's also built like an absolute tank, and it holds it's value very well. Hope that helps!

    • @bobby350z
      @bobby350z 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jacobsander9420 - Thanks a lot. I am thinking of buying my first machine. BDB is nice but looks like won't last as long as Rancilio and Profitec. So trying to decide which one to buy.

    • @kannonpatterson
      @kannonpatterson 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jacobsander9420I e had the revile touch for years and it’s done a great job .
      I’m about to pull the trigger on the la marzocco Micra. I know you have the mini but do you notice a significant change in quality taste between the Breville and the mini ?

    • @jacobsander9420
      @jacobsander9420 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kannonpatterson Hey - great to hear you're diving into manual espresso machines. Look, yes I do have the Mini, but I imo the Micra is just as good as the mini. It's not commercially rated, but by the reviews i've heard its great. There are some things I wish weren't as different, for example the portafilter on the Micra is some kind of plastic (correct me if i'm wrong) but it's not the standard LM portafilter that you'd get with the Mini or commercial ones. I believe it's to help with quick heating as apposed to cold metal which takes time to fully warm up, but the upside is one portafilter can be twisted to become a bottomless - as with the Mini you'd have to pay another $120 to get a LM metal bottomless. Look, if you invest yourself into a proper grinder (currently i'm rocking a Mahlkonig) you will have great tasting espresso with much much cheaper machines. If you want the reliability of tough machines LM makes, and the consistent build quality it's a no brainer. It should last you atleast a decade imo. If you want to be more involved in the extraction process, pressure profiling, getting different and special flavours which can only be achieved through that, then the Micra isn't for you. Thankfully, I am not that experimental with my shots like that, but do enjoy the consistent quality of espresso I get from my Mini. There's a good youtuber "the real sprometheus" who reviews the Micra and Mini and explains why he left the LM lineup. Do note that both the linea Mini and Micra need to be plumbed in, in order to support pre-infusion, otherwise running on the reservoir you only have the option of full pressure, or LM's "pre-wet". Honestly it's up to you, given you had the Breville Touch, you aren't really into pressure profiling and just enjoy a quality cup of coffee, the Micra is great for the investment, but, you will bottleneck the machine if you don't get a good grinder. Do some research as theres plently on the market. There's also something about LM machines that just look hella nice. Hope this helps

  • @brendonamos1669
    @brendonamos1669 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I live in Adelaide and I have the Dual Boiler. Paired with a Baratza Sette 270. I enjoy a latte in the morning and a long black with cold milk in the evening. Overall the things I enjoy most about the machine are adjustable pre-infusion, volumetric dose and the ability to get the drink made in a relatively short time being able to steam and pull shot simultaneously. And being here in Australia the Dual Boiler is very reasonable price for so many features.

  • @user-cf6yw9kg1j
    @user-cf6yw9kg1j 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have had a DB for approximately 18 months, and is exeptional value at a discounted rate of approximately $1,000. I teamed it with the Breville Grinder Pro, not a good choice for my purpose, as it is not consistent enough in its grind. I had a warranty issue with the DB and found the Breville service is second to none, couteous knowledable staff, an exception these days! I generaly drink single origin coffee's, as with my wine's, I like to enjoy the difference in flavour's, brought about through variety, region, and processing. I weigh my doses in, and out. I generally start the day with a couple of double esspresso's, then maybe a piccolo mid morning, with a cappucino mid afternoon. I haven't found the steamer an issue, and I believe there are different steaming jets available, which may or may not speed up the heating. All in all, very pleased with the performance of my DB, not so much with the Grinder Pro. Although I have been a coffee drinker for many years (I am 74), I am thoroughly enjoying my home coffee journey, and would reccommend the experience.

  • @tarifhalabi
    @tarifhalabi 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Jimmy,
    You can always get the last shot time by pressing the up or down arrow.
    Thanks for the great video.

  • @Robert-y1i7s
    @Robert-y1i7s 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just purchased the Breville Barista Touch. Love the machine and the end results so far are good. I still cannot get the milk right. Looks like I’m getting a nice texturing but I cannot get the final touch of doing the art. Only seems the final bit of milk in the jug has the consistency for that. Love the videos from Artisti, always a great help. To bad your a ways away but thank you.

  • @bcfran3g844
    @bcfran3g844 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3 Breville Oracle Touch. Used my new Jet today. I lile the new way. Touch could warm up before I came down for breakfast. Big coffee cup was warm on the top. Double boiler dìd the expresso amd heated the milk. Have to learn the Jet better.

  • @air90air
    @air90air 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To see the shot timer, press one of the up/down buttons. It will display the time for the last shot pulled in the DB.

  • @andromedach
    @andromedach 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have owned a Breville Impress Express but when asked by a friend which one to buy I told them to check out the Ninja Luxe Cafe which is available between $500 and $600 and basically does everything the Jet at a price point Breville cannot compete at.

  • @BobbieGWhiz
    @BobbieGWhiz 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    With the Bambino plus you can purge the steaming wand into your frothing pitcher. That way you don’t fill the drip tray as quickly. Was your latte art with the Bambino plus really done with the quto-frother or did you do manual frothing? Thanks.

  • @KarenDegens-l2h
    @KarenDegens-l2h 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had the Oracle Touch and I thought that was great. I now have the Oracle Jet and it’s so much better than the Oracle Touch.

  • @glennwilliams9941
    @glennwilliams9941 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That black jet machine, and the rest. It’s north of $3K AUD and that’s on special!

  • @Tothefloor
    @Tothefloor 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Are you going to review the ninja Luxe Cafe? It’s the most popular machine on sale right now. Could you please review it?

  • @kitcraft9516
    @kitcraft9516 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My experience with the Bambino plus is that the 2nd, 3rd and 4th shots are where it's at. The first shot, regardless of how many dummy shots you pull, will run slower than those that follow. By the 5th shot you will start seeing shots run faster again. Likewise, if you pull, steam, pull, steam etc shot times go wild. I was surprised at how similar the Thermojet was, in this regard, compared to a single boiler. These were not issues back when I started, and it took me 5-7 minutes to make one latte but as my workflow improved the quality of shots began to suffer. Again, because the first shot runs slower than those that follow. Now, you can mitigate this to an extent. Open up your grind size a click (if you are stepped) for your first shot and tighten it back up for the next shot or three. But I want to reiterate that you will only notice this with back-to-back-to-back shots (even with purging).
    Aside from that I have one glaring issue with mine. I guess due to when it was manufactured, my firmware does not allow me to temporarily skip the cleaning cycle (though it does with descale), which is annoying when you are mid workflow on two or three drinks. Not a deal breaking but a pain.
    Lastly, the drip tray is tiny and doesn't function correctly during the cleaning cycle. Even when freshly emptied the backflush pops so hard that it splashes out to an extend. And it does that, idk, 15 or so times during the process.
    I want to point out that these are my experiences after 18 months with the machine and from the perspective of an intermediate home/hobbyist barista at this point (I guess). I think that these issues probably won't make a world of difference to a lot of people but for those who it would matter I think it is worth considering.
    I don't regret getting mine because I have learned a lot. But after moving back to the EU from the US I wasn't going to buy it again. First and foremost because it cost a lot more here and those issue are more glaring at that point. I paid $400 usd for it in the USA on sale but here it is 499 euros BEFORE vat. All in about 650 USD makes it a hard pass.
    Here I find the basic De'Longhi Machines to be a much better value as they are 1/3 of the price. I do find them to be lesser machines without modification and quirkier even after doing so but the value is there. Particularly the boiler-based machines. There isn't a ton of temperature surfing because the boilers are just so tiny that they heat up quickly. For 1-3 drinks, anyway.
    I decided to go Brevile Dual boiler this time around as I think it represents the best value based on my needs. (Well I have a Flair 58 too but that is more a me thing and not a family machine and another story for another time.)
    Anyway, sorry for the text wall but I wanted to share my experience with those who may be in a similar situation. The Bambino Plus is a good machine, just not a great one.
    Thank you for this video, I found it informative and enjoyable and think it will help people decide which way to go.

    • @BobbieGWhiz
      @BobbieGWhiz 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have a BP and couldn’t make that many comments in a lifetime. I pull a shot, froth some milk, either automatically or manually, and add sweetener and a cinnamon sprinkle. End of story. Take care.

    • @kitcraft9516
      @kitcraft9516 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BobbieGWhiz Good to hear. Glad you enjoy it.

  • @scottscottsdale7868
    @scottscottsdale7868 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Here is an idea. Breville should have a seperate grinder and a machine just like the Jet without the grinder. BUT put the touch screen onto an app that connects to both and your phone. If they deconstruct all of it, it would really be something.

  • @GIB_H
    @GIB_H 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s funny I started off with a bambino original and a smart grinder pro (i didnt know better about the grinder) to learn about coffee in which I went down the rabbit hole. I now have a DF64 and every accessory you can imagine to improve shot quality. I’m getting exceptional espresso shots from this little bambino especially using it manually without any automated features. I’m sure i could get inproved shots with an lelit bianca or la marzoco machine or an end game grinder, but for now, my local coffee shops cant compare to the experience i have at home with this bamabino df64 setup.

  • @elfletes
    @elfletes 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had never used an espresso machine, but I really wanted to start to use them. For a newbie like me... which one is the 'best'?

    • @jamesec1949
      @jamesec1949 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Depends on your budget. We don’t have any of these. Ours is the Breville Barista Touch. It’s listed at $999 but there are sales a few times every year. We paid $750 and I then added accessories with the savings. We’ve had ours for almost a year and no issues so far. If we had a large budget we wouldn’t buy a Breville. There are so many high quality machines that will last a lifetime. Good luck.

  • @BorisDesmond
    @BorisDesmond 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think a lot of the dual boilers have longevity issues, leaking boilers etc. Couple comments about this already and also my own experience. I wonder if the thermojet will make it more durable. Also the auto temping has been average at best.

  • @crystalevans7739
    @crystalevans7739 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video! Thanks 🎉

  • @kathyoneill3812
    @kathyoneill3812 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have the barista express. Love it.

  • @Vanoual
    @Vanoual 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Which machine would you personally buy for less than €1,500, Jimmy?

  • @mohelu86
    @mohelu86 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had the original Oracle ... that tamping fan!!! OMG, it is the worst! ... I had to redistribute and retamp every shot, and only then started to see some consistent shots. Well set up machines otherwise. I think in retrospect, I should’ve bought the BDB.

  • @davidrice7740
    @davidrice7740 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Upwards of 3k AU for the jet…over twice the price of the dual.

  • @lazzar1903
    @lazzar1903 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have the Oracle jet and the only complaint I have is I would like to make a 16g coffee. Baskets that come with the machine is 12g and 22g and because the grinder is automatic you can't do a 16 - 18g coffee.

    • @mohelu86
      @mohelu86 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Buy a smaller basket … this should solve your issue

    • @Conservator.
      @Conservator. 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mohelu86As I understand it, the Oracke jet will only let you choose between 12g and 22g and because of the high level of automation it’s not practical to go against that.

    • @mohelu86
      @mohelu86 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ up to you, but I used a smaller sized basket and it was working just fine .. though I used to single dose

    • @brendonamos1669
      @brendonamos1669 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not sure what TH-cam channel it is but one person has done a video on changing the dose. I don’t have the Oracle Jet so I haven’t watched the video but do know about the video.

    • @lazzar1903
      @lazzar1903 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @mohelu86 not possible without making adjustment to the connector. I am getting a 16g basket so will try before making adjustments.

  • @DanScaroni
    @DanScaroni 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Had. Breville DB died after 18months, don't waste your money spend a tiny bit more and get something that is going to last. Don't believe me, ask your local machine service place.

  • @BlackPhilosopher
    @BlackPhilosopher 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Press “Up” button on BDB - you will see last shot time :)