I'm going to have to disagree on putting Oladipo over Reggie Miller. Miller practically led his team to the NBA finals back in 2000, and also took Shaq and Kobe to 6 games. He also made 8 points in 9 seconds, while all Oladipo has managed to do is get injured and get a few all-star appearances. He just hasn't done anything in his career yet to prove that he is the best SG in Pacers history.
I agree with Reggie over Oladipo but Reggie also had Mark Jackson.. He was a solid point guard for the Pacers i dont think they would even made the finals without him against the Lakers
@@UABlTCH42069 Oladipo just had injuries.. Hes a solid player.. As you say "look at him today" literally, hes back playing a decent game.. But hes no Reggie Miller
DUDE HAS ZERO KNOWLEDGE BOUT NBA GRIZZLES BEST PLAYER IS SHAREEF ABDUR RAHIM. BUT HE WAS NOT SELLOUT MARKETING . HE PUT RUDY OVER REEF IS LAUGH AT LOUDEST.
Sorry for the lack of uploads. I went on a small vacation and it threw my whole schedule off. That and this video took longer than usual to make. * and keep in mind its players natural positions for this video, which means both Shaq and Kareem can't be in the Lakers 5*
Munk no they wouldn’t lmao, u could put that hornets team in the league right now and they are a top 3 team at best. And they aren’t winning the championship
In terms of overall skills oladipo is better i think but i'm not trying argue with anyone you can say what ever. You can be right i didn't really watch reggie miller anyway.
Warriors are BUNS bro. Steph Curry and Klay built their careers off of Andrew Bogut’s perimeter screens and draymond and Iggy’s combined basketball IQ. All those players separate on their own teams, they would never have a chance at a title again. Some other great “all time” teams it’s a different story in that department. ‘16-‘19 Warriors in ‘89-‘98’s NBA would’ve been injured and swept in the playoffs if they even would’ve even made it that far. Soft.
Oh man... Westbrook, the beard and McGrady on the same team? Good luck passing the ball 🤣 No worries though, having Mo and the dream on offensive rebounds means they will have as many shots as they want.
this is just recency bias on his part. The Pacers stuff was insanity but after that I think the team that he got the most wrong with the Pistons. Bob Lanier was great but I would find a way to move lambir or Ben Wallace in there. If it was me honestly I would go Rodman-SF Laimbeer-PF Wallace-c If you wanted to argue to keep Bob Lanier over Wallace, I wouldn't be against that but Wallace had a borderline Hall of Fame career and was the key piece to them winning the title in 2004. I believe he was Defensive Player of the Year that year. And I'm sorry, I know there's a lot of hate out there for Bill Laimbeer, what the guy what is a three-point shooting big man before there was three point shooting big men! He was wildly unathletic that found a way to compensate and turn himself into one of the best defensive big men in the league at the time. He had Furious heart, was the best teammate anyone ever asked for, oh and by the way the guy pretty much averaged 20 and 10 during their big run from about 87 - 90. Rodman was one of the best defenders in the league, that special sauce, that glue for that team who can shut down the best player on the opposing team, and grab 20 rebounds tonight, and is in the Hall of Fame already, oh and he has a few championship rings as well. I think you have to find room for at least those two guys if not Wallace as well.
So you sum up Kyrie's entire tenure on the Celtics to that Bucks series?.. A series in which the entire Celtics team played poorly and got thoroughly outplayed by the Bucks on practically every possession.. I don't even like Kyrie, but people just love to rip on the brother when he actually did a lot for that team. Only fans and fools neglect and dismiss how much he helped his team. Players and coaches know that.
@@YankeeD23 I saw his entire time with the Celtics he didn't do not close to enough to be mentioned as the point guard for an all-time Celtics team. He doesn't belong over Jo Jo White Bob Cousy Dennis Johnson
This is true I mean cmon kyrie is hated by Celtics fans I should know cuss I am one and don’t get me wrong kyrie is good but makes every team he goes on’s chemistry worse
@@myojhnier7362 Naw Kareem was a 3 time MVP with the Lakers. Wilt was on the back end of his career. He was still great don't get me wrong but Lakers Wilt wasn't as good as Warriors Wilt or 76ers Wilt.
Mark Agurre Dallas, Gary Payton in Seattle, Chris Mullins in Golden State. Reggie Miller Indiana, Andrew Toney Philadelphia. Nate Tiny Archibald Sacramento
Liam exactly. He let Mark Jackson off the pacers because “Brogdon could be the better player” but then leaves Luka off the mavs because he hasn’t played long enough 😂
“I’m gonna choose the player who played the best for that team.” Also him “ I know Kyrie didn’t play that well with the Celtics but maybe with all stars around him, he would be better.” What?!🤨🤦♂️
@@Navvye but he played in the 50’s... that MVP ain’t as impressive when there only 8-11 teams xD I’m just saying that Rondo had a huge impact for the Celtics. They should’ve won more rings with that team, so yes, imo it’s pretty close.
Kyrie on the Celtics all-time got me effed up. Kyrie's not winning and not himself with the Celtics and still made the all-time. He broke his own 3rd rule. lol
CyberAMES Yeah I can think about 5 better PGs for the Celtics: Bob Cousy, Rajon Rondo, Dennis Johnson, Jo Jo White and Isaiah Thomas for that MVP caliber season.
@@yezzir8929 Stop taking the piss come on 😂 Watch Kyrie, AND THEN WATCH THEM. The difference is immeasurable, if you think Bob Cousy is gonna give Kyrie work you’re having a laugh
@@TrideepNagg how can you put Oladipo over Reggie Miller, an overrated injury-prone player over the face of the Pacer franchise himself? How can you explain that?
PATRICK EWING WAS A GREAT CENTER,EVERYONE LOOKS THAT HE DIDN'T WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP,MOST EVERY TEAM WHO WON THE FINALS HAD AT LEAST 2 HOF PLAYERS ON THE TEAM,WHAT HOF PLAYER DID EWING HAVE.
Wilt could play the four. Hell, Wilt could play the three if need be. The man was as fast as anybody on the floor and played damn near every minute of every game. He could guard 3s and 4s with ease.
LA could field 4x “greatest squads” and form two sick-ass teams. Some players missing: Worthy, Shaq, Wilt, Mikan, West, P. Gasol, Wilkes, Goodrich, Baylor...and the guys who played for only a couple years in Nash, Malone, Payton, Rice, etc.
GuessWhoNot it really isn’t, rondo broke cousy’s assist records, was a better rebounder, a better passer( even though cousy was a passing pioneerr) better defender and leader.
@@LeftHookLegend It's not all about passing, genius. Cousy won an MVP and was a first ballot Hall-of-famer. Rondo doesn't have either of those things going for him.
I agree with you. He has no clue/ idea 💡. He is a NBA basketball novice. He watched a couple of videos of the popular players in every era of the NBA and made a video. Ridiculous.
actually Kareem was better than Shaq even when it was at the twilight of his career. and he played 4 seasons for the Lakers before Magic was drafted ( between 28 and 31 years in age ) and than played 10 more seasons with Magic as teammate, there are even some that put Wilt ahead of Shaq even when in wilt case is really when he was older and declining in stats ( I do not agree, all time stats Wilt is better but if we compare just Lakers stats, Shaq is better ) and I will go as far as saying Mikan was more dominating "during his time period" in the NBA than Shaq was "during his time period with the Lakers" ( but skills wise Shaq would have super-dominated the NBA if he had played for the Minneapolis Lakers of 1949 to 1956 and Mikan at best would had been in the practice squad of the 2000 lakers )
All time I'd take Kareem over Shaq. But I'd also take WILT over Shaq. Wilt vs Kareem is the REAL argument for center on the Lakers. AD doesn't have the resume yet and he's barely played for the LAKERS at all.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 Prime Shaq is half the reason the lakers were so good. The guy at his peak was by far the most dominant person the leagues seen
The lakers are so stacked their 5th string lineup would be stacked with names like Elden Campbell Eddie Jones Nick Van Exel Lamar Odom Russel Westbrook
The video talks about teams possibly going 82-0. The Lakers *_second_* team could probably go 82-0. PG Jerry West, SG Gail Goodrich, SF Elgin Baylor, PF James Worthy, and C Shaquille O'Neal. I mean, the '72 Lakers already had a starting lineup of West, Goodrich, Happy Hairston, Jim McMilllian, and Wilt Chamberlain. Baylor and Worthy are way better than Hairston and McMillian, and Lakers Shaq is a bit of an upgrade from Lakers Wilt. Improve 3/5 of the team that already went 69-13 and won 33 in a row? Sounds like a good candidate to go 82-0 to me. And honestly, you could probably swap Byron Scott for Gail Goodrich, Pau Gasol for James Worthy, and even Wilt Chamberlain for Shaq, and they'd *_still_* have a great chance of going 82-0...
Everything wrong with this video: 1) He put Gilbert Arenas over John Wall. Wall has had more All-Star level seasons in Washington than Arenas did, and he is already one of the best Wizards of all time. 2) As much as I love both Brogdon AND Vic, I wouldn't count my chicks before they hatch with Brogdon. He has to average 7-8 assists a game in order for me to be convinced. And Reggie Miller is literally the greatest Pacer of all time, so even though Vic is one of my favorite players in the league, it's simply a crime to put him over Reggie. 3) Jokic should not be put over Dikembe yet because Dikembe won DPoY in Denver and was a first ballot Hall of Famer, and he played that way throughout his time on the Nuggets. Jokic is not on that level yet. 4) World B. Free belongs at the SG spot for the Clippers. He averaged 30.2ppg as a member of th Clippers in 1980 and was an All-Star. Also, Paul George is a SF, not a SG. You broke your own rules, Austin. 5) Dwight Howard belongs at that C spot for the Magic. He did more for that team than Shaq did, and we all know it. 6) He SERIOUSLY just put Kyrie over Bob Cousy?! Is he serious?! Did Kyrie win an MVP on the Celtics? Did he lead them to any success? Is Kyrie one of the greatest point guards of all time?No, not even close!! 7) Chris Mullin should probably be put over Klay, but that's minor compared to some other BS I've seen in this video. 8) LeBron James does NOT belong on the Lakers all-time starting 5 over Elgin Baylor. And if that wasn't bad enough, AD ain't even a better all-time player than Pau Gasol, who did WORK in Los Angeles next to Kobe. I'm sorry, but Austin has to take the L on this one.
Reggie Miller vs Oladipo (Advanced Stats) ORtg vs DRtg Miller: 121 - 109 Oladipo: 103 - 106 What this means is while Oladipo gives you a bit better defense Miller’s offensive output completely outweighs what Oladipo would be able to do. Plus efficiency is extremely important with limited possessions. Allowing someone to score 20 while you have 22 is different from allowing someone to score 25 while you have 35, especially team strength factoring.
Aldiggty natural positions. Oladipo is a sg like reggie is. With that said, I’ll still put Miller over him, but its not as disrespectful as y’all make it to be.
I mean by the time Ben Simmons ends his career he will be a hall a gamer too and all Mo Cheeks only won a championship and was the all defensive first team one time trust me Ben Simmons will do more through his career
@@jamesvanmeeteren2911 My bad.....I got that wrong....I don't follow Philly that close..but I have been following basketball since 1960..and not just last month as you suggested...I'm 72 years old..so I'm entitled to make a mistake...and man enough to acknowledge it when I've made it...so chill with your insults and keep it civil and respectful
As an update, Anthony Edwards has only played one full season and one game this season and he's already replaced Wiggins in that Timberwolves best ever.
@@marahbar8810 I love Hondo, but Ray can actually argue the point. Depends on the era, modern era Ray's 3 point shooting wins, older era no 3 point line Hondo wins hands down.
Austin, Austin, Austin. Dr. J is NOT the only all-time great 76ers player to win a title in Philly. Wilt Chamberlain led the 76ers to the 1967 NBA Title and that team is in the discussion as the greatest NBA team of all freakin' time. In the 1966-1967 season, Wilt was the league MVP, the 76ers shot out of the gate with a 46-4 record, and they ended the season with a 68-13 record. The 76ers went 11-4 in the playoffs and if the award existed at that time, Wilt would have been named the Finals MVP.
Yeap this does not make any sense. His totally contradicting him self. Pretty much his just putting what he likes not what has been the best in their positions. For example AD hasn’t played any regular season or done anything for the team and still he is already putting him ahead of Paul gasol when he got 2 rings with Kobe and was one of the greatest lakers players. And AD is still not there yet.
Wilt won Philly a championship, but the championship belonged to the franchise, not the city. That was the Warriors franchise, not the Sixers. Same city, different franchises.
@@KiyanPocket wtf are you guys talking about. The 76ers literally won against the Warrior's in the finals. Wilt did play with the Philadelphia Warriors before and had his best statistical seasons there but his first chip was won as a 76er.
2017 Warriors + Wilt Chamberlain gets placed number 3. Goddaym. Maybe because most of them didn't finish their careers yet, but I am still a little surprised
12:31 Wilt won with the 76ers he called the best team he'd ever played on. He had played on the Philadelphia Warriors, but was now on the 76ers (after the Warriors went to San Francisco) and funny enough, beat the San Francisco Warriors while on the Philly 76ers for that NBA title
I'd love to know how Brogdan who hasn't been an All-star yet in his career, made it on this list in place of an actual All-star and HALL OF FAMER REGGIE MILLER! You should have replaced Brogdan with Oladipo and place Miller at the shooting guard position.
wilt chamberlain and the 76ers won in 67, with about the best team ever in basketball. chamberlain had luke jackson, billy cunningham, chet walker and hal greer
@@thetoxicsportskid6399 just won 2 NBA titles with The Pistons....and you can put the same player on more than one team, no way Blake Griffin over Dennis, and we also have Ben Wallace, much better than Blake Griffin
POV: you’re going to the comments as soon as he said olidipo over Reggie Miller.
Literally wtf
😂😂 this video is over
LMAOOO fr I did
yep
True
This guy lost any credibility he had when he left off Reggie Miller
This is the EXACT comment that I was coming to make!!!!!!!
I guessed every 5 before he listed then and when he said Oladipo over Miller, I was like.... 👁️👄👁️
He was the best shooter in Jordan’s era I do not know how he left him out
And he left shaq out of the Lakers.
Richard Flores yeah but Kareem shaq is debatable , reggie oladipo isn’t
I'm going to have to disagree on putting Oladipo over Reggie Miller. Miller practically led his team to the NBA finals back in 2000, and also took Shaq and Kobe to 6 games. He also made 8 points in 9 seconds, while all Oladipo has managed to do is get injured and get a few all-star appearances. He just hasn't done anything in his career yet to prove that he is the best SG in Pacers history.
lol
Not even close. Oladipo is overhyped. Look at him now, he's beyond a$s. Reggie was never this bad.
I agree with Reggie over Oladipo but Reggie also had Mark Jackson.. He was a solid point guard for the Pacers i dont think they would even made the finals without him against the Lakers
@@UABlTCH42069 Oladipo just had injuries.. Hes a solid player.. As you say "look at him today" literally, hes back playing a decent game.. But hes no Reggie Miller
DUDE HAS ZERO KNOWLEDGE BOUT NBA
GRIZZLES BEST PLAYER IS SHAREEF ABDUR RAHIM. BUT HE WAS NOT SELLOUT MARKETING . HE PUT RUDY OVER REEF IS LAUGH AT LOUDEST.
That Oladipo over Miller take aged like milk.
So has the Ben Simmons pick.
And only Bubble AD was really good on the Lakers.
Same with the Brogdon pick
And Westbrook over Steve Francis
Ill put gasol over ad at least for now
Oladepo only played for a season. Ben didn't do anything in the playoffs. Ad Is a better power forward. Gasol plays center.
i would put iverson at the 1 and at the 2iguodala
AD is still good tho. He is just injury prone. I'd put Pau over him tho
You put Oladipo over Miller, and by the same logic you couldn't put Luka over Jason Terry?? Lmao
Zamiul Haque luka is already much better than terry ever was
Luka is better than Terry already
This was posted before the year started
Or better than jason kidd
Y’all are slow he is not on Jason’s level yet jut give him years oladipo has defense and Reggie Miller doesn’t
You should have picked Dennis Rodman over Blake Griffin for Detroit, or Ben Wallace.
Ben Wallace was a c but I do agree
Rasheed or Rodman over Griffin. And he called Griffin a great all around player?!? I'm baffled.
@@mrunlikely2490 BEN PLAYED PF/C IN BULLETS FIRST YEAR.
@@PIP...33 he was centre
Dave BeBusschere
Sorry for the lack of uploads. I went on a small vacation and it threw my whole schedule off. That and this video took longer than usual to make. * and keep in mind its players natural positions for this video, which means both Shaq and Kareem can't be in the Lakers 5*
Ok
Was it just me? 0:17
Wht were you thinking AND REGGIE MILLER???
Ahmed Abdulghani shaq is a center ad is a power forward
Why is Anthony Davis over shaq
Mans straight up looked at the all time rosters on 2k😂
No limit paintball team 😂😂
Honestly, mostly the same or similar
Except the idiot didnt put cousy over kyrie
No limit paintball team probably
Cooper Hodgeman because Cousy is a way better leader and passer
Reggie is literally the best pacer player and it’s not even close
The Great Wee Wee pg13 ?
@@CincoKnows lol
Nostalgic memories Reggie? 😂
Lol not even close vic is way better
Reggie Miller
Reggie Miller is the best Pacer of all-time! You have to put him there
I love how he says every team is “solid” but I’m pretty sure no team is gonna be bad all time😂
Walid Assour the Grizzlies and hornets
@@qu0b3n66 The grizzlies and hornets would still be favourites to win the championship in most normal years, neither are bad
Munk no they wouldn’t lmao, u could put that hornets team in the league right now and they are a top 3 team at best. And they aren’t winning the championship
@@TransparentEclipse In what world would a 5 all star starting 5 not win a championship
@@munk5170 if the bench is trash which is believable with a hornets team
Oladipo hasn’t done enough to be above reggie. come on dude show some respect
vodka Yeah that's just silly not to have Reggie.
In terms of overall skills oladipo is better i think but i'm not trying argue with anyone you can say what ever. You can be right i didn't really watch reggie miller anyway.
This guy dont know shit
Fax
I can name a few pacers man.. remember the rifleman Chuck Person ..
He really didn’t put Reggie Miller in the pacers line up
That's some sort of crime right there
That Malcolm Brogdon and Victor Oladipo over Mark Jackson and Reggie Miller take didn’t age too well…
Am I the only one who noticed he screwed up the list.
I swear he went from #9 to#11
Marc Fischer same
It confused me so much he went from 9 to 11 to 10
not your not
You can tell that from the thumbnail
The funniest thing about the warriors is..... They have a modern team that looks like an all time team....
ik right
Right
@JunkerJcGeorge Gervin is one of the best scorers of all time so Manu is not good enough
@@RakeGaze right people forget about george that man was smoove as ive
Warriors are BUNS bro. Steph Curry and Klay built their careers off of Andrew Bogut’s perimeter screens and draymond and Iggy’s combined basketball IQ. All those players separate on their own teams, they would never have a chance at a title again. Some other great “all time” teams it’s a different story in that department. ‘16-‘19 Warriors in ‘89-‘98’s NBA would’ve been injured and swept in the playoffs if they even would’ve even made it that far. Soft.
Oh man... Westbrook, the beard and McGrady on the same team? Good luck passing the ball 🤣
No worries though, having Mo and the dream on offensive rebounds means they will have as many shots as they want.
I can’t believe he put Westbrook over CP3
Calvin murphy
You left out Reggie Miller in an all-time Pacers team? You need to take this shit down bro
No Reggie Miller? Dumb!
Yeah he didn't include him hit chill out
this video was a long time ago chill out.
I’m a Philly fan and as soon as I saw Ben Simmons I was like AHHHH HELLLLL NAHHHHHHH😂
Ahead of Hal Greer, Andrew Toney, Billy Cunningham, among others lol...
@@mikeythompson7777 nah. Mo Cheeks is the clear answer at pg
@@chiarosuburekeni9325 Mo Cheeks a great talent but not sure he eclipses Hal Greer...But the poster is right, no way Ben Simmons is on that list
Ah yes, Pistons legend Blake Griffin...
Swap him for Rodman, DeBusschere, or Sheed.
Or even a ben wallace
@@TeamRocketWes not a pf
@@domdabomb2033 he definitely was a pf/c he's even listed as a pf/c , delete your comment while u have a chance
@@domdabomb2033 he can play C or PF. He was undersized
Or even mark Aquirre or Adrian Dantley. This guy doesn't know history. Look at his pronunciation of Bob Lanier.
How.
Did Ben Wallace.
Not get on here.
I agree!! Better than Bob Lanier for Pistons and Artis Gilmore for Bulls
He’s exactly what I was looking for in Piston’s lineup.
Donnie Couch facts
Bill laimbeer that's why
I was confused when I saw that he wasn’t on the list too
It’s so crazy to see the grizzlies at #28 after them doing incredible this season
you said AFTER they lost to the warriors in game 6 in the conference semis! no but seriously he should make an update on this
@@h3r01cviii5 bro they did Shaq dirt with not putting him on the Lakers.
@@lordbrady8117fr
As an all time team one semi decent playoff run doesn’t mean a damn thing.
Dennis Rodman ahead of Blake Griffin at the Pistons
Lanier over Wallace for C on Detroit
Agree
I mean, debatable, but yeah Dennis was a beast.
Are u high
this is just recency bias on his part. The Pacers stuff was insanity but after that I think the team that he got the most wrong with the Pistons. Bob Lanier was great but I would find a way to move lambir or Ben Wallace in there. If it was me honestly I would go Rodman-SF Laimbeer-PF Wallace-c
If you wanted to argue to keep Bob Lanier over Wallace, I wouldn't be against that but Wallace had a borderline Hall of Fame career and was the key piece to them winning the title in 2004. I believe he was Defensive Player of the Year that year.
And I'm sorry, I know there's a lot of hate out there for Bill Laimbeer, what the guy what is a three-point shooting big man before there was three point shooting big men! He was wildly unathletic that found a way to compensate and turn himself into one of the best defensive big men in the league at the time. He had Furious heart, was the best teammate anyone ever asked for, oh and by the way the guy pretty much averaged 20 and 10 during their big run from about 87 - 90.
Rodman was one of the best defenders in the league, that special sauce, that glue for that team who can shut down the best player on the opposing team, and grab 20 rebounds tonight, and is in the Hall of Fame already, oh and he has a few championship rings as well. I think you have to find room for at least those two guys if not Wallace as well.
You have to at least acknowledge Ben Wallace if you’re putting someone else over him at C/PF
“I.m picking these based on how the players did for that team *picks Kyrie for the Celtics* - WTF
So you sum up Kyrie's entire tenure on the Celtics to that Bucks series?..
A series in which the entire Celtics team played poorly and got thoroughly outplayed by the Bucks on practically every possession..
I don't even like Kyrie, but people just love to rip on the brother when he actually did a lot for that team. Only fans and fools neglect and dismiss how much he helped his team. Players and coaches know that.
@@YankeeD23
I saw his entire time with the Celtics he didn't do not close to enough to be mentioned as the point guard for an all-time Celtics team. He doesn't belong over
Jo Jo White
Bob Cousy
Dennis Johnson
@@louisstephens2965 rajon rondo too
This is true I mean cmon kyrie is hated by Celtics fans I should know cuss I am one and don’t get me wrong kyrie is good but makes every team he goes on’s chemistry worse
Yeah, but he'd be playing with Bird running the offense. That way he could be utilized as a scorer rather than a floor general.
You are not putting Okc James harden near ray alen l am not putting Oladipo near Reggie miller
I think he forgot about Rodman in the pistons lineup
Rodman didn’t even start on the Pistons
I would go wilt over Kareem for the lakers
@@myojhnier7362
Naw Kareem was a 3 time MVP with the Lakers. Wilt was on the back end of his career. He was still great don't get me wrong but Lakers Wilt wasn't as good as Warriors Wilt or 76ers Wilt.
No dave bing?
No Bill Laimbeer?
I like Blake... but no sir.
Oladipo over reggie miller
Reggie miller: best player on pacers 3 point king
Vicror oladipo: player who has been injured s lot
walt frazier was the best at his position - my all time pick as a guard
Doncic would defo be on the Mavs all time 5 now
nothing but facts here
Mark Agurre Dallas, Gary Payton in Seattle, Chris Mullins in Golden State. Reggie Miller Indiana, Andrew Toney Philadelphia. Nate Tiny Archibald Sacramento
Liam exactly. He let Mark Jackson off the pacers because “Brogdon could be the better player” but then leaves Luka off the mavs because he hasn’t played long enough 😂
Why wat has he done?
Nope
“I’m gonna choose the player who played the best for that team.”
Also him
“ I know Kyrie didn’t play that well with the Celtics but maybe with all stars around him, he would be better.”
What?!🤨🤦♂️
cousy won an MVP while in boston
What
Cousy or Rondo. Kyrie is light years away based off his criteria.
@@brandxn4 rondo isnt even close, Cousy won an MVP. Cmon.
@@Navvye but he played in the 50’s... that MVP ain’t as impressive when there only 8-11 teams xD I’m just saying that Rondo had a huge impact for the Celtics. They should’ve won more rings with that team, so yes, imo it’s pretty close.
He broke his own rules so many times
Ya giannis at pf
i know!
False Hungyellow Giannis is a pf lol middleton was the sf brogdon the 2 hill or bledsoe at 1 lopez at 5
Kyrie on the Celtics all-time got me effed up. Kyrie's not winning and not himself with the Celtics and still made the all-time. He broke his own 3rd rule. lol
CyberAMES Yeah I can think about 5 better PGs for the Celtics: Bob Cousy, Rajon Rondo, Dennis Johnson, Jo Jo White and Isaiah Thomas for that MVP caliber season.
Credibility took a big hit putting K. Irving over the great DJ (Dennis Johnson) for the Celtics. And they would beat the Lakers.
Kyrie is one of the most skilled players in nba history. Just watched Dennis Johnson’s career highlights and Kyrie takes him all day
Tiny, Cousy, and DJ all over Ky
@@yezzir8929 Stop taking the piss come on 😂 Watch Kyrie, AND THEN WATCH THEM. The difference is immeasurable, if you think Bob Cousy is gonna give Kyrie work you’re having a laugh
@@getlorned2815 I thought they meant best career as a part of that team not most skilled player that ever played for that team, my bad.
they wouldn't beat the lakers💀
Reggie not making the pacers is like dirk not making mavs😂
Uhhh.... Dirk was on the Mavs
EAZY BREEZY 😂 r/woooosh
Thomas Eddison thats not a woosh thats just not seeing the joke
Hood Irony but he did not understand what he was saying
@@thomaseddison8654 my mother language isn't English sorry if i made any mistake.
McCaw is the Raptors and Warriors all time starting point guard
Cool Kid no he is the greatest warrior and raptor of all time
Where Is Kyle Lowry?
TAPKING13 r/wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh
@@4thAndGoalSports 🤦🏾♂️
He would beat the all time nba team by himself
The recency bias in this video is insane lmao
Explain
@@TrideepNagg how can you put Oladipo over Reggie Miller, an overrated injury-prone player over the face of the Pacer franchise himself? How can you explain that?
PATRICK EWING WAS A GREAT CENTER,EVERYONE LOOKS THAT HE DIDN'T WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP,MOST EVERY TEAM WHO WON THE FINALS HAD AT LEAST 2 HOF PLAYERS ON THE TEAM,WHAT HOF PLAYER DID EWING HAVE.
Incorrect. The team that beat Ewing's Knicks in their only finals appearance had only 1 hall of fame. That would be the Rockets and Hakeem Olajuwon.
Warriors PF could be debated.
Like for Chris Mullen
Comment for Draymond
what about nate thurmond
What about Rick Barry?
Chris Land I could see how people could consider him but I’m not the biggest fan of him
Al Harrington, debate over
Bkapdc Chris Mullins is a small Forward
hardest thing about the lakers is you can’t forget wilt but u can’t forget shaq and u can’t forget kareem
It's a difficult choice
Wilt could play the four. Hell, Wilt could play the three if need be. The man was as fast as anybody on the floor and played damn near every minute of every game. He could guard 3s and 4s with ease.
LA could field 4x “greatest squads” and form two sick-ass teams. Some players missing: Worthy, Shaq, Wilt, Mikan, West, P. Gasol, Wilkes, Goodrich, Baylor...and the guys who played for only a couple years in Nash, Malone, Payton, Rice, etc.
I think shaq can be a bench and wilt is better in the gsw so i think its just between kareem and shaq
@@Rorschachqp yeah, celtics and lakers both could field multiple teams.
bruh reggie miller is literally the best pacer of all time😂😂
Straight disrespect to Reggie Miller. It makes the entire rest of the video suspect.
And Jerry Lucas of the kings
Rest of the video was no better. WAY too much recency bias, not enough research on older players, etc.
Kyrie isn’t even a top 3 point guard for the time he was there yes he has talent but in Boston he didn’t have better years than Cousy, IT, or rondo
TrulsLemon Preachhh
It's really inarguable that Cousy is the best Celtic PG ever.
GuessWhoNot it really isn’t, rondo broke cousy’s assist records, was a better rebounder, a better passer( even though cousy was a passing pioneerr) better defender and leader.
Yup. He broke his own 3rd rule. lol
@@LeftHookLegend It's not all about passing, genius. Cousy won an MVP and was a first ballot Hall-of-famer. Rondo doesn't have either of those things going for him.
I love how the warriors are basically if Wilt time travelled to 2017
This dude clearly started watching basketball sometime in the last 5 years.
I agree with you. He has no clue/ idea 💡. He is a NBA basketball novice. He watched a couple of videos of the popular players in every era of the NBA and made a video. Ridiculous.
Chill I bet he knows more than you. Y don’t you make your own YT channel and list every perfect thing hotshots
Yep...you're absolutely right .but he should still know better than to pick Oladipo over Reggie Miller
You’re right but this guy tries to sound like a jerk
He doesn’t know a thing
Ok so we all down here talking about how he didn’t put Reggie on when the man left out Shaq for Kareem when he was older????
actually Kareem was better than Shaq even when it was at the twilight of his career. and he played 4 seasons for the Lakers before Magic was drafted ( between 28 and 31 years in age ) and than played 10 more seasons with Magic as teammate, there are even some that put Wilt ahead of Shaq even when in wilt case is really when he was older and declining in stats ( I do not agree, all time stats Wilt is better but if we compare just Lakers stats, Shaq is better ) and I will go as far as saying Mikan was more dominating "during his time period" in the NBA than Shaq was "during his time period with the Lakers" ( but skills wise Shaq would have super-dominated the NBA if he had played for the Minneapolis Lakers of 1949 to 1956 and Mikan at best would had been in the practice squad of the 2000 lakers )
IK Shaq is a beast
kareems better than, what he should have was slide kareem to 4 insted of ad, and then shaq at the 5
All time I'd take Kareem over Shaq. But I'd also take WILT over Shaq. Wilt vs Kareem is the REAL argument for center on the Lakers.
AD doesn't have the resume yet and he's barely played for the LAKERS at all.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 Prime Shaq is half the reason the lakers were so good. The guy at his peak was by far the most dominant person the leagues seen
The warriors:
Just the 2014 starting lineup
Clay Roberts you mean the 2015 - 2016 starting line up
Yeah but their chemistry was better in 2014
Yeah pretty much
Yeah but with wilt added on
That was the 2016-2017 warriors
as a sonics fan I'm quite biased bused my guy really put Russ over Gary Peyton
Nah that makes sense ppl rly forget how truly amazing mvp russ was
How can you call yourself a Sonics fan when you can't even spell Payton's last name? 😅
Lakers, the sick thing is not the starting 5...it’s how good the bench 5 would be.
Truth.
Yep!!
The lakers are so stacked their 5th string lineup would be stacked with names like Elden Campbell Eddie Jones Nick Van Exel Lamar Odom Russel Westbrook
The video talks about teams possibly going 82-0. The Lakers *_second_* team could probably go 82-0. PG Jerry West, SG Gail Goodrich, SF Elgin Baylor, PF James Worthy, and C Shaquille O'Neal. I mean, the '72 Lakers already had a starting lineup of West, Goodrich, Happy Hairston, Jim McMilllian, and Wilt Chamberlain. Baylor and Worthy are way better than Hairston and McMillian, and Lakers Shaq is a bit of an upgrade from Lakers Wilt. Improve 3/5 of the team that already went 69-13 and won 33 in a row? Sounds like a good candidate to go 82-0 to me. And honestly, you could probably swap Byron Scott for Gail Goodrich, Pau Gasol for James Worthy, and even Wilt Chamberlain for Shaq, and they'd *_still_* have a great chance of going 82-0...
@@razkable mmhm shaq and wilt mmhm
When you’re so early you can’t even get over 480p
2 hours later. Still 480p. Probably human error
Still 480p
Still 480p
Still
21 hours later
You definitely need to go Miller over Oladipo (obviously), Rodman and Wallace for the pistons. (No one would be trying to drive to the hoop on that).
Are you talking about Rasheed or Ben?
Bob Lanier over Ben Wallace
No love for "The Glove" Gary Payton? As a Supersonic or Thunder
Rus is better
618 Greenleaf bro Gus Williams should have been starting point guard he was in the team that one there only championship and his name was “The wizard”
Russ is much better
The glove is better than russ
russ is an mvp u fool
Oladipo over Reggie is insane.
The all time lakers are absolutely insane. Imagine Shaq, Wilt, and James worthy of the bench
Elgin baylor, mike idol aint even mention bruh. Lakers franchise can field 4-8 all time team from starter to bench
Elgin baylor, mike idol aint even mention bruh. Lakers franchise can field 4-8 all time team from starter to bench
Everything wrong with this video:
1) He put Gilbert Arenas over John Wall. Wall has had more All-Star level seasons in Washington than Arenas did, and he is already one of the best Wizards of all time.
2) As much as I love both Brogdon AND Vic, I wouldn't count my chicks before they hatch with Brogdon. He has to average 7-8 assists a game in order for me to be convinced. And Reggie Miller is literally the greatest Pacer of all time, so even though Vic is one of my favorite players in the league, it's simply a crime to put him over Reggie.
3) Jokic should not be put over Dikembe yet because Dikembe won DPoY in Denver and was a first ballot Hall of Famer, and he played that way throughout his time on the Nuggets. Jokic is not on that level yet.
4) World B. Free belongs at the SG spot for the Clippers. He averaged 30.2ppg as a member of th Clippers in 1980 and was an All-Star. Also, Paul George is a SF, not a SG. You broke your own rules, Austin.
5) Dwight Howard belongs at that C spot for the Magic. He did more for that team than Shaq did, and we all know it.
6) He SERIOUSLY just put Kyrie over Bob Cousy?! Is he serious?! Did Kyrie win an MVP on the Celtics? Did he lead them to any success? Is Kyrie one of the greatest point guards of all time?No, not even close!!
7) Chris Mullin should probably be put over Klay, but that's minor compared to some other BS I've seen in this video.
8) LeBron James does NOT belong on the Lakers all-time starting 5 over Elgin Baylor. And if that wasn't bad enough, AD ain't even a better all-time player than Pau Gasol, who did WORK in Los Angeles next to Kobe.
I'm sorry, but Austin has to take the L on this one.
Spitting Fax
Plus, He has a Raid sponsor. I trust no youtuber after they do that.
Dwight Howard should start at PF for Orlando
he is a center and the rule #2 stayted players on their natural potision you wouldnt have shaq
Ilias Limneos but still
I don't know how you put Lewis in over Horace Grant. Lewis was a slightly better scorer but Grant was a much better rebounder and defender
He’s a center not a PF
@@iliaslimneos2136 he played power forward the first 3 seasons of his career. Plus, there were several exceptions on the list anyway
This must be a teenager. He has no sense of historic great players.
Absolutely
I believe he is 27
It goes by the players talent on the team
It's how good the player is not what they did for the team
@@joshuadaniels1681 But he wasn't doing it like that he did it on how good they were on that team
"Whaaaa? This list has some serious recency bias going on!"
-Sidney Moncrief seeing the Ray Allen pick
All Time Warriors should be:
PG: Steph Curry
SG: Klay Thompson
SF: Chris Mullin
PF: Kevin Durant
C: Wilt Chamberlain
Imo PG. Steph. SG. Klay SF. Chris Mullin PF. Rick Barry C. Wilt
Blake griffin over Dennis Rodman on the pistons?? What about Ben Wallace
Tyler McGee For real. Wallace and Rodman? Nobody would score down low or get a rebound. Lol
Tyler McGee facts
Rollo Tumasi Ben Wallace with the strength of 10 cracks head blocking shaq
@@rollotumasi3879 wdym dennis rodman is one of the greatest defenders of all time and one of the best rebounders of all time
TWOMUCHFOME Forreal Right. I'm saying they would be my choice
Reggie Miller vs Oladipo (Advanced Stats)
ORtg vs DRtg
Miller: 121 - 109
Oladipo: 103 - 106
What this means is while Oladipo gives you a bit better defense Miller’s offensive output completely outweighs what Oladipo would be able to do. Plus efficiency is extremely important with limited possessions. Allowing someone to score 20 while you have 22 is different from allowing someone to score 25 while you have 35, especially team strength factoring.
Miller gravity creates space for the bigs on the post and cuts for the other wings kinda like klay
"Really wanted to put Luka Doncic over Micheal Finnley but I just couldn't yet"
We see how well that's aged
its 2 years
william smith and those two years show how great Luka is
@@8z_ba it's been 4 months
He still isnt a MVP or had a championship so chill
@@sgryan4052 Finley wasn't a MVP either
did you ever hear about elgin baylor and jerry west for the lakers ?
You know the video is over when he picked Oladipo over Reggie AND have Raid Shadow Legends sponsor the thing.
Facts 😂
sprewell over wiggins bro he got to feed his kids
Bruh stop
@@guesswhonot1620 what it's funny
Lmao
the ball dont lie
Ok, as a Celtics fan putting Kyrie as the all time point guard is heresy. Justice for Bob Cousy.
I glad I was not the only one who came to the comments after hearing Oladipo over the greatest Pacer of all time
Really no better Pacers PG than Brogdon?
No but oladipo over Miller? I like Oladipo cus he played for the thunder buuuut no
Apple Fanboy BRO. HE DIDNT EVEN INCLUDE REGGIE MILLER
casey shapiro lol
Oladipo is lised as sg/pg so he could’ve replaced brogdon and reggie would be the sg
Aldiggty natural positions. Oladipo is a sg like reggie is. With that said, I’ll still put Miller over him, but its not as disrespectful as y’all make it to be.
on the Lakers one he tripping 😂. Magic, Kobe, LeBron, Kareem, and Shaq
Everybody is talking about reggie miller not making it but he put Ben Simmons over hall of famer Mo Cheeks
I mean by the time Ben Simmons ends his career he will be a hall a gamer too and all Mo Cheeks only won a championship and was the all defensive first team one time trust me Ben Simmons will do more through his career
@@im.gelooo a hall a gamer. ben simmons isn’t ninja bro
Thats understandable...Mo Cheeks was never the best player on his team..he had Dr. J and Moses..Ben was a star before Embid arrived
@@rodcav3 When did you start learning basketball? Last month? Embiid was drafted before Ben even came to Philly. Embiid was there before Ben.
@@jamesvanmeeteren2911 My bad.....I got that wrong....I don't follow Philly that close..but I have been following basketball since 1960..and not just last month as you suggested...I'm 72 years old..so I'm entitled to make a mistake...and man enough to acknowledge it when I've made it...so chill with your insults and keep it civil and respectful
The moment I saw Reggie Miller was not in the Pacers lineup, I stopped watching lmao
Stopped watching after that Raid Shadow Legends sponsor
Lol
As an update, Anthony Edwards has only played one full season and one game this season and he's already replaced Wiggins in that Timberwolves best ever.
You should have put Karim and power forward and shack in centre!!!
2016-19 Warriors with Wilt would be unstopable
Toronto all time is great
Ben Wallace??
erik puka i would love to see that warriors team vs the lakers team
The moment when you rank Kyrie over Bob Cousy as best Celtics PG🤦🏻♂️
I was laughing my ass off
McHale over Tatum and havlichek over Ray allen
Lol
DONT START WITH KYRIE OH NO
@@marahbar8810 I love Hondo, but Ray can actually argue the point. Depends on the era, modern era Ray's 3 point shooting wins, older era no 3 point line Hondo wins hands down.
Austin, Austin, Austin. Dr. J is NOT the only all-time great 76ers player to win a title in Philly. Wilt Chamberlain led the 76ers to the 1967 NBA Title and that team is in the discussion as the greatest NBA team of all freakin' time. In the 1966-1967 season, Wilt was the league MVP, the 76ers shot out of the gate with a 46-4 record, and they ended the season with a 68-13 record. The 76ers went 11-4 in the playoffs and if the award existed at that time, Wilt would have been named the Finals MVP.
Why is he putting people that haven’t even played a game for the franchise in the all time lineup
Because they Are good
But he litterly said rule number two is the players will be based on how they played for that team and then rule number 3 just contradicts that
@@themilkman4448 rule number 2 said they can be used multiple times
Yeap this does not make any sense. His totally contradicting him self. Pretty much his just putting what he likes not what has been the best in their positions. For example AD hasn’t played any regular season or done anything for the team and still he is already putting him ahead of Paul gasol when he got 2 rings with Kobe and was one of the greatest lakers players. And AD is still not there yet.
@@fernandojruiz8770 exacly bro. Makes no sense at all
7:17 where’s Ben Wallace :edit thanks for the likes
Man IKR
Trashmong Is better than u idk he’s on my NBA 2K mobile HAHAHAHA
This guy was high on crack
BRU What are you saying thank you for the likes u only have 35 say that at 200 likes or 100 bruu
@@alo0nz 66 now
12:34 Wilt won Philly a championship too. Get your facts straight!
yes, but no. They count as a Warriors' ring, but it was won when the warriors played in Philly
Wilt won Philly a championship, but the championship belonged to the franchise, not the city. That was the Warriors franchise, not the Sixers. Same city, different franchises.
@@KiyanPocket wtf are you guys talking about. The 76ers literally won against the Warrior's in the finals. Wilt did play with the Philadelphia Warriors before and had his best statistical seasons there but his first chip was won as a 76er.
@@holgerjurjo4282 no. he did win it with the WARRIORS not the the 76ers and when he win that championship the 76ers where not even a team.
Thank you I just said that myself cuzzzzz
2017 Warriors + Wilt Chamberlain gets placed number 3. Goddaym. Maybe because most of them didn't finish their careers yet, but I am still a little surprised
12:31 Wilt won with the 76ers he called the best team he'd ever played on. He had played on the Philadelphia Warriors, but was now on the 76ers (after the Warriors went to San Francisco) and funny enough, beat the San Francisco Warriors while on the Philly 76ers for that NBA title
you lost my respect when you put oladipo over mr regicide...
Pistons without Rodman? I would take Rodman over Griffin anyday!
Shaq for the lakers instead of Anthony Davis
Nahhh
@josh Davis ur high
@Simeon Friedman yeah I think he is
Nah I'd say switch shaq for kareem
Slide Kareem to the 4, put Shaq at the 5
I'd love to know how Brogdan who hasn't been an All-star yet in his career, made it on this list in place of an actual All-star and HALL OF FAMER REGGIE MILLER! You should have replaced Brogdan with Oladipo and place Miller at the shooting guard position.
Agree, this dude's a casual
@@berna11111 Same thing with Ginobili in San Antonio (he s a hall of famer).
Did he just put AD over O’Neal?
David Wen yes he’s stupid
Shaq is not a pf
@@avikaplan223 yeah, that's the whole point of the video so I don't see why they think he's saying Davis is better than shaq
He said natural positions. Shaq isn’t a pf
Kevin DurSNAKE ok so he should have put shaq over kareem.. shaq had his best seasons with lakers
OH MY GOD YOU PUT KYRIE OVER RONDO AND COUSY FOR THE CELTICS
Literally, Cousy as the best Celtic PG of all time cannot be argued against.
Probably because the young people that watch will go crazy
Tru
Put bob cousy in today's era and he's not making out of highschool
@@giogio-ul5ln you're slow af
It’s even crazier to think that the Lakers would have guys like shaq, west, pau, and wilt.
wilt chamberlain and the 76ers won in 67, with about the best team ever in basketball. chamberlain had luke jackson, billy cunningham, chet walker and hal greer
12:33
Actually Wilt also brought Philly a Championship in 1967...
Ryan Burgess I’m pretty sure that was the Philadelphia Warriors which was a different team but it was philly
Its Philadelphia Warriors
I really wasted my time on this list...you gotta be kidding with some of these teams
Darnell Roberts facts
Stfu
Stfu
German Major Sgt Riflemen and nuggets
Ikr lakers Kareem over prime Shaq????
finley over Mark Aguirre! Aguirre made 3 all-star teams with the Mavs while averaging 25 a game.
You can possibly throw in Rolando Blackmon too. Jamal Mashburn too.
Finley all the way
Pacers all time starting 5 is as follows:
PG - Jackson
SG - Miller
SF - George
PF - O-Neil
C - Turner
Mullin could be put in for George if need be.
this man aint start Prime Dwight Howard on the Magic smh
Would you put Howard over Shaw
@@3verdades832 * Shaq
It's just disrespectful
Y’all ever heard of the most powerful center ever Shaw?
Dwight played better then shaq while on the magic but yes shaq is better overall
Pistol Pete playing with Stockton, mind-blowing.
number 10 ....
number 9.....
number 10....
who else noticed that?
also he had so many voice cracks
12 then 9 then 11 then 10 the 8 😂
10 then 9 then 11 then 8
Lol
Just how do you mess that up
Reggie Miller is the greatest Pacer GOAT! (All time 75 list)
Did you forget Wilt got the 76ers a title? And was one of the best teams in NBA history?
dude forgot his own name making this list
Kyrie Irving over Bob Cousy in the C's??? You must be kidding!
7:17 so you telling me that you putting Blake Griffin and not Dennis Rodman you really smoking crack bro
Did anyone realize he went from12,9,11,10?
William Glandorf yah
Kohari WILLIAM Dennis Rodman has his best season on the Bulls not the Pistons duh
@@thetoxicsportskid6399 just won 2 NBA titles with The Pistons....and you can put the same player on more than one team, no way Blake Griffin over Dennis, and we also have Ben Wallace, much better than Blake Griffin
More than crack; he is on glue, also AD before James Worthy and Kareem before Wilt "the Stilt" Chamberlain.