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Brilliant video mate - you have patients thats for sure - Im sure the designers TRY to make things as hard as possible for mechanics !! Thanks for posting
Thank you for the video, lots of useful info. However I found that you dont need to take the fluid reservoirs or bracket out or slacken the chassis engine mount nuts because the engine lowers just the same on the 3 very accessible 18mm head bolts that attatch the engine to the mounting. the clearance from the chassis to the auxilary belt tensioner and idler pulley is only about 40mm so i needed to buy long cranked 13 and 15mm ring spanners to fit the space, as you said it is very challenging. If I were doing the job again i would weld 13 and 15mm sockets on to flat bar to make removal much easier and i would drill the flat bars to use a luggage scale to torque them up on reassembly. I also found the timing belt cover is best wiggled out and removed underneath. there is a plastic pipe mounting clip that marginally touches the cover so i cut the end off it and used a nylon tie to hold the pipe into the clip. Hope that helps someone.
Once you start it, you have to finish it. Still it was my first time doing one of these. If I ever have to do it again (which I wont), it will take less than half the time.
If i had a non air conditioning ducato 2.3, would it be possible to change the single belt camshaft damper pulley to a double pulley (buy a spare part) by simply removing the old pulley and replacing the new? i know i need to fit all the other components, compressor, evaporator etc but you can buy a universal kit for this, i just need the drive pulley supplied from the engine crank.
I'm not the best person to ask, as this was the first time I'd worked on the Ducato engine. But I can't see why not. As for fitting the air con...I'm surprised it's worth the effort.
You should really have slackened the cam sprocket when changing the belt. That is why you lock the two cams. It makes fitting the new belt a lot easier and more importantly distributes the load evenly across the belt.
Hello.There is a twin cam timing chain on the other side of the engine head.Thats what the two camshaft locking pins are for.Changing this little timing chain 😊sorted no problem.
And that timing chain wears and stretches in length, resulting in the chain jumping a tooth. The valves then come in contact with the pistons with one awful mess occuring. So be warned if your Ducato has a rattling nose when cold and the engine power has fallen away a tad change the chain quick. Could save you the cost of a new engine.
Wait what? What do you mean there is a timing chain? Why and how does that work exactly? I though these engines had timing belts which is what the video is all about. How and why is there a timing chain as well? I'm completely confused now.
@ Hello again. Yes absolutely,there is a small timing chain on the opposite side of the engine .The two small locking pins in the kit lock the camshafts (2 of them is twin cam16v)so you can renew the camshaft timing chain keeping the camshafts in unison.simples🤓 Yes you still have the toothed timing belt on the front of the engine.It drives one camshaft and through the chain the other is driven. Hope this clarifies things a little. Take care T.
@@terrybrowne459 Makes perfect sense, thank you. Still, fuck Fiat for putting a stupid timing belt on the engine instead of a proper twin timing chain that lasts forever.
@@swunt10 Only thing is chains do not last forever either, they wear as well. The small drive chain at the rear of the cylinder head failed on my 5 year old ducato at only 33k miles. Cost me a fortune to put it right.
Hi thanks for the video, Ummm I’m a little confused sorry I’m in the middle of doing my timing belt on my iveco daily van and I’ve been watching lots of videos and well some are saying when you tension the belt that you first do on the loser mark,then turn the crankshaft full 8 times étc, then re-adjust the tensioner to the tighter top mark on the tensioner ? You do it the opposite way round? ( Help) I don’t want to screw this up? Cheers curt 👍
Just paid £900 to get mine done at Local garage that can do motorhomes can see why its so expensive in labour ..they were underneath the vehicle on the 4post ramp so guess thats easier ?
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Very good video, shows all the difficulties you will have while trying to do the job. Well explained..
Don't know if I will have the patience.. 🤔👍
Thank you.
I think you did well everything considered ... it's easy to criticise others when you're familiar with the job
You, sir, are a national treasure
:-)
Brilliant video mate - you have patients thats for sure - Im sure the designers TRY to make things as hard as possible for mechanics !!
Thanks for posting
Thanks. Yes, such jobs are far more awkward than they should be....especially when it's a 5 yearly maintenance item.
Thank you for the video, lots of useful info. However I found that you dont need to take the fluid reservoirs or bracket out or slacken the chassis engine mount nuts because the engine lowers just the same on the 3 very accessible 18mm head bolts that attatch the engine to the mounting.
the clearance from the chassis to the auxilary belt tensioner and idler pulley is only about 40mm so i needed to buy long cranked 13 and 15mm ring spanners to fit the space, as you said it is very challenging. If I were doing the job again i would weld 13 and 15mm sockets on to flat bar to make removal much easier and i would drill the flat bars to use a luggage scale to torque them up on reassembly. I also found the timing belt cover is best wiggled out and removed underneath. there is a plastic pipe mounting clip that marginally touches the cover so i cut the end off it and used a nylon tie to hold the pipe into the clip. Hope that helps someone.
Thanks for your time , I love the way you say your not going to redo that and then in the next breath you say you are doing that and do it 😂
That's the trouble with filming this while I do the job the first time and also some of it was removed in editing.
You have the patience of a saint. 👍
Once you start it, you have to finish it. Still it was my first time doing one of these. If I ever have to do it again (which I wont), it will take less than half the time.
If i had a non air conditioning ducato 2.3, would it be possible to change the single belt camshaft damper pulley to a double pulley (buy a spare part) by simply removing the old pulley and replacing the new? i know i need to fit all the other components, compressor, evaporator etc but you can buy a universal kit for this, i just need the drive pulley supplied from the engine crank.
I'm not the best person to ask, as this was the first time I'd worked on the Ducato engine. But I can't see why not.
As for fitting the air con...I'm surprised it's worth the effort.
You should really have slackened the cam sprocket when changing the belt. That is why you lock the two cams. It makes fitting the new belt a lot easier and more importantly distributes the load evenly across the belt.
Thanks. Good to know, but I hope I'll never have to do one of these again!
Is the 2.3 Cambelt change the same as the 2.0 2017..
I don't know as I've only ever owned this model.
@ Thanks for your reply, I’ll ask on the FB group…someone will probably know, if there are differences: my guess is that they will be minor.
Hello.There is a twin cam timing chain on the other side of the engine head.Thats what the two camshaft locking pins are for.Changing this little timing chain 😊sorted no problem.
And that timing chain wears and stretches in length, resulting in the chain jumping a tooth. The valves then come in contact with the pistons with one awful mess occuring.
So be warned if your Ducato has a rattling nose when cold and the engine power has fallen away a tad change the chain quick. Could save you the cost of a new engine.
Wait what?
What do you mean there is a timing chain?
Why and how does that work exactly?
I though these engines had timing belts which is what the video is all about.
How and why is there a timing chain as well?
I'm completely confused now.
@ Hello again.
Yes absolutely,there is a small timing chain on the opposite side of the engine .The two small locking pins in the kit lock the camshafts (2 of them is twin cam16v)so you can renew the camshaft timing chain keeping the camshafts in unison.simples🤓
Yes you still have the toothed timing belt on the front of the engine.It drives one camshaft and through the chain the other is driven.
Hope this clarifies things a little.
Take care T.
@@terrybrowne459 Makes perfect sense, thank you.
Still, fuck Fiat for putting a stupid timing belt on the engine instead of a proper twin timing chain that lasts forever.
@@swunt10 Only thing is chains do not last forever either, they wear as well. The small drive chain at the rear of the cylinder head failed on my 5 year old ducato at only 33k miles. Cost me a fortune to put it right.
Almost as bad as doing timing belt on vw mk4 jetta/bora 1.8t.
Thanks for sharing.
Hi thanks for the video,
Ummm I’m a little confused sorry I’m in the middle of doing my timing belt on my iveco daily van and I’ve been watching lots of videos and well some are saying when you tension the belt that you first do on the loser mark,then turn the crankshaft full 8 times étc, then re-adjust the tensioner to the tighter top mark on the tensioner ?
You do it the opposite way round? ( Help) I don’t want to screw this up?
Cheers curt 👍
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It would be much easier to remove the engine mount, I promise
Ok, thanks. Hopefully I should ever need to do another one.
you don't need to destroy those fiat clips you just need the right pliers to open and close them
Yes, I've since learnt that!
@@GoGreenAutos And what pliers are that?
Just paid £900 to get mine done at Local garage that can do motorhomes can see why its so expensive in labour ..they were underneath the vehicle on the 4post ramp so guess thats easier ?
Yes, its a time consuming job.
@@GoGreenAutos wish I had the confidence,tools and flexibility to do my own ..well done 👏
I had to drop the donkey as the pulley would't come out once it was off
Hard job €800 hundred euro to that job ireland mark timing with tip ex white
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Hi mate great video but you're making it to complicated for youre self!!
Well it was the first time doing one!