It's getting to the point that Combo Breaker has surpassed Evo as best FG tournament. They play all the games, not just the 5 or 6 currently popular ones.
Old 2D games always age better than old 3D games. Sega were also masters of tech being ahead of its time, the Virtua Fighter series amongst others really blew you away too when you consider how much older those games are also and that there was nothing else out there anywhere near them at the point of their release. You'd be lucky if a new Capcom vs SNK crossover would be anywhere near as good as this today if recent fighters are anything to go by. Today's fighters (2D and 3D) just lack the 90's and 00's X factor, they've been progressively declining ever since.
I'm promoting this game like an apostle, in a world in which all pre 30YO noobs know now is crappy hacked OG KOF 2002, and all they do is button mashing. - PD, i'm kinda seriously sick of OG KOF2002. -
Timestamps (spoilers): Winners semis 1 - GNJ|Rusteezzy vs. Nakanishi: 15:24 Winners semis 2 - Jwong|Justin Wong vs. Strikefirst|Dr.B Galaxy B: 25:17 Top 8 losers 1 - Pattheflip vs. VDO: 38:08 Top 8 losers 2 - Jamarvelous vs. Renegade: 1:01:57 Losers Quarters 1 - VDO vs. Strikefirst|Dr.B Galaxy B: 1:11:43 Losers Quarters 2 - GNJ|Rusteezzy vs. Renegade: 1:20:55 Losers Semis - GNJ|Rusteezzy vs. Strikefirst|Dr.B Galaxy B: 1:36:21 Winners Finals - Jwong|Justin Wong vs. Nakanishi: 1:46:56 Losers Finals - Strikefirst|Dr.B Galaxy B vs. Nakanishi: 2:08:00 Grand Finals - Jwong|Justin Wong vs. Nakanishi: 2:24:10 Grand Finals reset - Jwong|Justin Wong vs. Nakanishi: 2:48:10
I think CvS2 is just slightly better than 3S. It's more diverse. There's some hype in there, but there's also some chill stuff like the windmill stage.
Beautiful stages, amazing characters, cool BGM, the fact that are 6 different types of Meter and all of them gives you the chance to do different combos and strategies, man... what a game!
Very good looking game. My only slight gripe with it, is that the Blanka sprite, ripped from Street Fighter Alpha 3, looks absolutely rubbish. The only rubbish character model in the entire game in my opinion and he's one of my favourite characters. Even his SF2 iteration looked better. Don't know what Capcom were thinking to be honest.
Just repeating what the guys say, great representation of all Grooves. And MAJOR props to the commentary team, adds so much to viewers when the guys actually know what they're talking about. Man, JWong's Vega looks like a total pain to play against... Too bad stupid pandemic cancelled the next tourney :(
@@lvag741 it’s probably best you play this on the Dreamcast or PS2 version if not actual hardware/arcade, to my knowledge. Thankfully there’s Brook converters too
Because most of the SNK characters are inferior unfortunately. Pretty much all the top tier characters are Capcom characters... Very few of the SNK crew can hang. Notable exceptions are maybe Hibiki, Iori, and Geese.
I don’t really care for Dr. B but the commentators were being rather rude. Especially from an older game community you would expect more respect to the players for still working on their play to keep the game alive.
I REALLY love this fighter! An all time favorite and makes me hella nostalgic. I don’t even remember why or how I got this way back when. But I just bought it again a few days ago. Can’t wait for it to arrive!
If anyone says that they "cant play fighting games because they are too complicated" show them Wong walking back and forth dominating space with single normals.
keep it lit 925 Played the hell out of this and Marvel Vs Capcom 2 back in the day. I actually burned through a few CDs just from the hours I played. Couldn’t afford to buy MvC 2 again when the discs went for a few hundred dollars back in the day.
@@antonterry9015 people who actually give a shit about this game like trying to help people who might not know the finer details about what exactly is happening, the commentary did a great job of respecting the normal fighting game fan's intelligence while also explaining some stuff that's unique or close-to-unique in CvS2, it was good shit
Damn everything good for a first time after many years! Different character select, great players!! Well maybe not everyone but other then jwong everyone gives yeah im going to have fun not boring you and myself to dead and its great commentators awesome thx its nice to watch it
kinda fucked up that they didn’t stop the match where justin told the japanese guy he couldnt change his team order but they looked it up and saw you actually can.
@@jonashworth9757 If you are deluded to think this game is more refined, more balanced, more technical and has more depth and complexity than Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution then you're simply making a subjective statement. This game is the epitome of an over-simplified fighting game. While I still play this game I do profess that it does not suffer any real performance-related issues, I can also attest; having and playing both that it pales in comparison in every objective category in comparison to Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution.
That's because the Alpha sprites are basically larger than the CVS-original style sprites. Larger sprite means better hitbox. The animations are also noticeably choppier than CVS sprites, so maybe the Alpha sprites were sped up, in a sense...
Iori, Hibiki, Geese, Athena (low key since she's the anti Sagat), Mai, and in some circles Maki is considered top. Even still, so what if Capcom characters are top tier??? There are a ton of strong players who put in work with mid to lower tier characters. You should check out the A-Cho yt channel for some long sets and tournaments.
Also? Certain characters in certain grooves do really well. Like Rolento in C-Groove or N-Groove, Vega/Balrog in A, Chun-Li in N. Tier listing in CvS2 isn't set in stone.
no handshake for dr b?? its like event 37 scarred justin just like sagat was scarred by ryu. you always see the scar, reminding you, and then you grow bitter...
They need to go back to making 2d fighting games. Theyre just awesome. Marvel Vs Capcom, Capcom Vs SNK, KOF, Street Fighter 1 all the way through to 3 all have stood the test of time. People are still to this day playing them. Please Capcom and SNK make another 2d fighter game.
@@mostverticalproductions4808 actually it's the Dreamcast version. If you look at the player cam when they're setting it up at the beginning, specifically at 10:26, you can see the TO holding a Dreamcast controller. Also the setup screen says DC HDMI.
@@FGCbaronkorvo my mistake then. I figured the PS2 port was the gold standard for tournament play. I have the DC version and something about it feels, off
@@mostverticalproductions4808 The PS2 version is sped up a tad when compared to the Arcade and Dreamcast versions. Just checked the Shoryuken wiki and that's what I found.
When sf2 was brought to the west, some characters had their names changed due to legal reasons. The boxer was m bison in The east, and changed to balrog in the west. The dictator went from Vega in the east to m bison in the west, and the claw weilding character went from balrog in the east to Vega in the west. Because of this, they're referred to as boxer, dictator, and claw in tournaments.
I love unorthodox fighters so Dr. B is my dude. With that said: 1:39:20 *PAINT PAINT PAINT PAINT PAINT PAINT PAINT* was the best moment. I watched this while high and I fucking died lol
There are 3 chars that are referred to like this to avoid confusion, since the names have been changed in the US Boxer: JP M.Bison US Balrog Claw: US Vega JP Balrog Dictator: JP Vega US M.Bison
@@paletapayasofan DNF has characters called Berserker, SF they are named - I just don't know why our guys can't just call them right. Even the Japanese commentators on Team Spooky's streams call Vega, M. Bison to be more international so our guys have really no cause. Might be a small thing but were I getting into SF and I hear: "Claw is fast and rolls to his opponent" the health bars say; Vega and Ken- I'm going to wonder what are they watching, who is Claw?
why would you need an hd release for one of the best looking fighting games of all time? next you're gonna tell me 3d models look better than sprites lul
![Capcom vs. SNK 2 - TOP 8 @ Defend the North 2019 [4k/60fps]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bv2RO5nCpDQ/mqdefault.jpg)
It's getting to the point that Combo Breaker has surpassed Evo as best FG tournament. They play all the games, not just the 5 or 6 currently popular ones.
Keep in mind, this game is EIGHTEEN YEARS OLD, an old game can be godlike, age don’t matter, god I hope a new one comes out
lol who said old games can't be good? newer games sucks!
Old 2D games always age better than old 3D games.
Sega were also masters of tech being ahead of its time, the Virtua Fighter series amongst others really blew you away too when you consider how much older those games are also and that there was nothing else out there anywhere near them at the point of their release.
You'd be lucky if a new Capcom vs SNK crossover would be anywhere near as good as this today if recent fighters are anything to go by.
Today's fighters (2D and 3D) just lack the 90's and 00's X factor, they've been progressively declining ever since.
Capcom vs snk 2 was one of the best fighting games ever
I'm promoting this game like an apostle, in a world in which all pre 30YO noobs know now is crappy hacked OG KOF 2002, and all they do is button mashing.
- PD, i'm kinda seriously sick of OG KOF2002. -
@@xm_heecka.laddder.job_mx5962 Mexico has a problem with that game, you ain't alone, they really need to move on for once
15:24 is when the first match starts - Rusteezzy v. Nakanishi
Arigatou
Obrigado
Ya tah
real mvp
hero
Timestamps (spoilers):
Winners semis 1 - GNJ|Rusteezzy vs. Nakanishi: 15:24
Winners semis 2 - Jwong|Justin Wong vs. Strikefirst|Dr.B Galaxy B: 25:17
Top 8 losers 1 - Pattheflip vs. VDO: 38:08
Top 8 losers 2 - Jamarvelous vs. Renegade: 1:01:57
Losers Quarters 1 - VDO vs. Strikefirst|Dr.B Galaxy B: 1:11:43
Losers Quarters 2 - GNJ|Rusteezzy vs. Renegade: 1:20:55
Losers Semis - GNJ|Rusteezzy vs. Strikefirst|Dr.B Galaxy B: 1:36:21
Winners Finals - Jwong|Justin Wong vs. Nakanishi: 1:46:56
Losers Finals - Strikefirst|Dr.B Galaxy B vs. Nakanishi: 2:08:00
Grand Finals - Jwong|Justin Wong vs. Nakanishi: 2:24:10
Grand Finals reset - Jwong|Justin Wong vs. Nakanishi: 2:48:10
CvS2 and Third Strike had some of the best fighting game soundtracks
Some of the best soundtracks come from fighting games. It’s pretty amazing how they add to the experience.
SF EX too
I think CvS2 is just slightly better than 3S. It's more diverse. There's some hype in there, but there's also some chill stuff like the windmill stage.
Shinku Quickman I play 3rd strike, not too well haven’t played for long, and never played cvsnk2. Is game balance better than 3rd strike?
Sheckles Goldstein From what I’ve seen, A-groove is really broken and some characters are clearly better that most of the cast
They need to remaster this game for next gen consoles.
Might as well wait for a Ps5 remaster
I feel like when they do remasters they always wind up making it an UGLY remaster. Like SFIII3rdS. That was an ugly remaster.
@@antonterry9015 which version
@@antonterry9015 I think hd remix was better looking and played better
PLEAAAZZE
Beautiful stages, amazing characters, cool BGM, the fact that are 6 different types of Meter and all of them gives you the chance to do different combos and strategies, man... what a game!
Very good looking game.
My only slight gripe with it, is that the Blanka sprite, ripped from Street Fighter Alpha 3, looks absolutely rubbish. The only rubbish character model in the entire game in my opinion and he's one of my favourite characters.
Even his SF2 iteration looked better. Don't know what Capcom were thinking to be honest.
Just repeating what the guys say, great representation of all Grooves. And MAJOR props to the commentary team, adds so much to viewers when the guys actually know what they're talking about. Man, JWong's Vega looks like a total pain to play against...
Too bad stupid pandemic cancelled the next tourney :(
Laming people out is his strat
MASSIVE props to Dr. B, getting all the way to top 3 in S Groove. He's really doing a lot to show that it's not as worthless as people think.
Is the gamecube version of this bad?
fuck dr b hes racist af. talk all that shit and still get clapped
@@lvag741 it’s probably best you play this on the Dreamcast or PS2 version if not actual hardware/arcade, to my knowledge. Thankfully there’s Brook converters too
That intro was golden. I love NothingX just leaning forward ready to speak until he notices that it's the whole ride.
Dr. B out here working with his Shenanigan Groove Grand finals was crazy
It’s Capcom vs SNK but nearly everyone plays Capcom characters....
Its not the everyone plays Capcom characters but everyone who played SNK characters are not in top 8
I play with Ken,Iori , and Yuri
Because most of the SNK characters are inferior unfortunately. Pretty much all the top tier characters are Capcom characters... Very few of the SNK crew can hang. Notable exceptions are maybe Hibiki, Iori, and Geese.
You see some SNK characters. Iori, Geese, and Hibiki are common. I personally run Cammy, Iori, and Ken.
@@datriadx18 I really sometimes wonder if the developers were Capcom biased with this being the Capcom's release of the crossover deal.
This battle is about to explode!
*FIGHT!*
I love this characters models from this game. The best in my opinion.
2:50:50 what a deadly super combo
2:46:55
CVS2 HYPE!!! HD COLLECTION FOR PS4 CMON CAPCOM
Id rather have sf x tk 4k remix
@@baserocks1 thats a good idea
@@baserocks1 that doesn't sound bad at all either. as long as the models arent all buff and gross/muddy like sfxtk
I don't think that will happen because the SNK from 2001 does not exist anymore.
skunch I don't think that's an issue. When CvS2 for GCN and Xbox were made, copyrights for SNK chars were mentioned as Playmore's.
I don’t really care for Dr. B but the commentators were being rather rude. Especially from an older game community you would expect more respect to the players for still working on their play to keep the game alive.
This game was truly a *Masterpiece* 👌
Justin, you have proven time and time again how amazing you are. Enjoyed watching this.
How did he roll off the super at 2:55:02? Thanks!
I REALLY love this fighter! An all time favorite and makes me hella nostalgic. I don’t even remember why or how I got this way back when. But I just bought it again a few days ago. Can’t wait for it to arrive!
If anyone says that they "cant play fighting games because they are too complicated" show them Wong walking back and forth dominating space with single normals.
Love when they explain the terms they use. As someone who loves watching FGC matches I’m not too keen on all the lingo. Big ups to the commentators
The announcer was always on point on this game
One of the best games ever made still have my copy
Ps2 for life
keep it lit 925
Played the hell out of this and Marvel Vs Capcom 2 back in the day. I actually burned through a few CDs just from the hours I played. Couldn’t afford to buy MvC 2 again when the discs went for a few hundred dollars back in the day.
@@jonashworth9757 what you mean burn, like the disk stoped working.
Love watching high level play of CvS 2
Dr.B sure is someone who loves this game.
why was justin such a poor sport at 35:19?
Excellent commentary, their love for the game really shows. :)
no it was basic bitch commentary .... you either get bad cvs2 or bad cvs2 commentary
@@mikevidzdev That attitude is why they are CVS2 commentators and you are not.
@@mikevidzdev your 100% right
@@mikevidzdev I wasn't a fan of their commentary. In fact? It wasn't even needed. I get hype from the game...not the ppl talking about it.
@@antonterry9015 people who actually give a shit about this game like trying to help people who might not know the finer details about what exactly is happening, the commentary did a great job of respecting the normal fighting game fan's intelligence while also explaining some stuff that's unique or close-to-unique in CvS2, it was good shit
That grand final bracket reset moment was insane!
Damn everything good for a first time after many years! Different character select, great players!! Well maybe not everyone but other then jwong everyone gives yeah im going to have fun not boring you and myself to dead and its great commentators awesome thx its nice to watch it
Even in Japan i notice heavier CVS2 play...CS2 on the rise?
Aztec General legends never die, cvs2,mvc2, and 3S(my personal favorite) will always have a audience
I hope this game rise like the Phoenix.
So much fun 🙌🏽🙇🏽♂️
Please help! How to increase speed in Naomi???
This game has to be rereleased....
This game has to be rerereleased
Get a PS2 and buy the disk on Amazon for 12 bucks like I did. or MvC2 (overseas) for 15.
@@antonterry9015 i have it on ps2
Wow! How do you know the lyrics on the Character Selection Screen.
kinda fucked up that they didn’t stop the match where justin told the japanese guy he couldnt change his team order but they looked it up and saw you actually can.
Why is vdo not doin double repuken?
15:27 match start
Why is Vegas name and Bisons swapped?
Because this game was in Japanese.
This game is now available on fightcade
1:13:40 melhor crossover já feito de jogo de luta
54:19 HADOUKEN! TATSUMAKISENPUKYAKU! TATSUMAKISENPUKYAKU! *Everyone starts looking around confused* hahahaha 🤣😂😭💀
Can't help but wonder if the people on their phones the whole time went back and watched these fights later... on their phone
if the commentator on the right ever sees this please tell me where you got that shirt from
Go on twitter and ask him.
TeeFury ages ago.
@@soFlashy. i dont have twitter.
Ah yes, one of my favourite things about living in London is taking a trip on the Euro Mountain Queen Knight Queen Queen Knight Express
This game give me nostalgia. I remember watching my bros play this on the gamecube
Please someone tell me how to join these cvs2 tournaments. I'm in SoCal. San Diego. Thanks!
best fighting game ever
Definitely not. Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution is by a mile.
Judah Soremy
Nope. This game kills Virtua Fighter by a mile. I have a fondness for all fighting games, but this one is much more complete.
@@judahsoremy9857 said absolutely no one, 3rd strike is the best and prime street fighter
@@jonashworth9757 If you are deluded to think this game is more refined, more balanced, more technical and has more depth and complexity than Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution then you're simply making a subjective statement.
This game is the epitome of an over-simplified fighting game. While I still play this game I do profess that it does not suffer any real performance-related issues, I can also attest; having and playing both that it pales in comparison in every objective category in comparison to Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution.
@Seymour Asis That game is as close to perfection as a 2-D fighter can get, Seymour. There hasn't been a better one since.
21:16 OK so ken just cancelled his super into a roll, is that what I just saw and how did that happen?
He did level 2 super into the command roll that Ken has
The notation would be qcf(x2)medium punch
Then during the super do qcb punch
1:22:48 love that impression
Pretty cool to see that this game is still played in competitions!
Damn why did jwong not shake Dr. B's hand?
Apparently they were beefing over something.
Something happened in twitter
Because dr b is takes himself way too seriously
VDO is that guy, if he wasn't so styling, he would have swept doc and I think he knew it. Playing for skill is always better than playing to win.
Kinda wack that the top tier is basically made up entirely of Capcom characters and is chock full of those damn Alpha sprites...
That's because the Alpha sprites are basically larger than the CVS-original style sprites. Larger sprite means better hitbox. The animations are also noticeably choppier than CVS sprites, so maybe the Alpha sprites were sped up, in a sense...
Iori, Hibiki, Geese, Athena (low key since she's the anti Sagat), Mai, and in some circles Maki is considered top. Even still, so what if Capcom characters are top tier??? There are a ton of strong players who put in work with mid to lower tier characters.
You should check out the A-Cho yt channel for some long sets and tournaments.
Also? Certain characters in certain grooves do really well. Like Rolento in C-Groove or N-Groove, Vega/Balrog in A, Chun-Li in N. Tier listing in CvS2 isn't set in stone.
i would love to see a HDR of Capcom vs SNK 1.2 on xbox1 and ps4
pause
Why are they playing the Japanese version?
We need more Capcom Vs Snk 2 Tournaments!!!
Are they playing on a Dreamcast or NAOMI?
Dreamcast on the stream. Naomis were used in Pools
I heard the dreamcast start up sounds lol
Love this game! Still a lot of fun to play.
Hopefully this channel promotes this game a lot more.
This has a lot of views and let's face it, we need this to come back ASAP!
LOL can someone get me a guide on how to fight jwong???
no handshake for dr b?? its like event 37 scarred justin just like sagat was scarred by ryu. you always see the scar, reminding you, and then you grow bitter...
STARTS AT 15:00
It's weird seeing nothingxs on fighting games again. Been so used to his dream team stuff nice surprise to see him back.
Where TF can I get that background image mane.
Which background
What do you mean which one?? The only one??
Timestamp?
@@BilalKhan-ng3ex Background used for the bracket fool. Obviously if I wanted to know the background for a stage in the game I'd just look up cvs2.
@@acidfruitloops timestamp?
Why are the character name all messed up?
They need to go back to making 2d fighting games. Theyre just awesome. Marvel Vs Capcom, Capcom Vs SNK, KOF, Street Fighter 1 all the way through to 3 all have stood the test of time. People are still to this day playing them. Please Capcom and SNK make another 2d fighter game.
I really want a Capcom Vs. SNK 3
This game has some severely unbalanced characters, but I love it.
I really enjoyed watching this.
What social media does VDO have?
Are they playng this on ps2? or dreamcast?
robert kemp super gun, basically a striped down arcade board in a box.
@@DjGo99 nah, it's the PS2 port. CVS2 arcade doesnt have that character select or the handicap meter.
@@mostverticalproductions4808 actually it's the Dreamcast version. If you look at the player cam when they're setting it up at the beginning, specifically at 10:26, you can see the TO holding a Dreamcast controller. Also the setup screen says DC HDMI.
@@FGCbaronkorvo my mistake then. I figured the PS2 port was the gold standard for tournament play. I have the DC version and something about it feels, off
@@mostverticalproductions4808 The PS2 version is sped up a tad when compared to the Arcade and Dreamcast versions. Just checked the Shoryuken wiki and that's what I found.
bass??
What tournaments or places are there to play in SoCal ?
do i . . . hate claw now?
11:26 Why is SSBM "the game that shall not be named"?
Cuz I kinda dislike the game competitively and the overall scene in general. Just a really long personal history. They're free to do their own thing.
1:53:03 let's go justin
Ajajaja justin vs daigo
What does o.c.v stand for?
@Tiger thank you!
Are playing in the ps2?, because i dont see the jagging in the backgrounds.....why?.
No, Dreamcast via VGA.
@@palmra oh!, thank you bro.
I am a simple Dragon. I see CvS2, I watch and like.
I am DragonSlayer139 prepare to be extinct
this is probably going to sound like a meme but why is mr bison named vega
When sf2 was brought to the west, some characters had their names changed due to legal reasons. The boxer was m bison in The east, and changed to balrog in the west. The dictator went from Vega in the east to m bison in the west, and the claw weilding character went from balrog in the east to Vega in the west. Because of this, they're referred to as boxer, dictator, and claw in tournaments.
This vs Street fighter 3 idk what to buy 😥😥
I'm only shopping at CVS until Capcom vs SNK 3 is released!
I love this game so much
Is BAS there?
Are they on Dreamcast? What are the best ways to play this game online?
I'm not sure if this game ever had online game play. There was a GameCube version that may have had online playability though.
Heard about fightcade? 👀
Why does it say Balrog for Vega and Vega for M Bison?
In the Japanese version of the game those are the original names for the characters.
Nakanishi is insane, love his guile and ken. That was a good ass grand finals and top 8
Playing for the love of the game
My favorite design for M.Bison/Dictator
On point Soniku Bermmhh
1:52:15 - 2:14:12 - 2:16:11 - 2:49:41 - 3:02:20
I love unorthodox fighters so Dr. B is my dude. With that said:
1:39:20 *PAINT PAINT PAINT PAINT PAINT PAINT PAINT* was the best moment. I watched this while high and I fucking died lol
6:19 "arcade shit" 😂
This is why JWong is the GOAT of fighting games....
Who tf is claw. Is that vega’s Japanese name? If so, Vega was definitely the better choice
There are 3 chars that are referred to like this to avoid confusion, since the names have been changed in the US
Boxer:
JP M.Bison
US Balrog
Claw:
US Vega
JP Balrog
Dictator:
JP Vega
US M.Bison
why's he keep calling Vega/ Balrog "Claw"? I mean his name is onscreen my guy it's not hard 😄
It’s common practice to avoid confusion
@@paletapayasofan DNF has characters called Berserker, SF they are named - I just don't know why our guys can't just call them right. Even the Japanese commentators on Team Spooky's streams call Vega, M. Bison to be more international so our guys have really no cause. Might be a small thing but were I getting into SF and I hear: "Claw is fast and rolls to his opponent" the health bars say; Vega and Ken- I'm going to wonder what are they watching, who is Claw?
Oh god that intro from renegade... so good :D
Which game speed is it ? The fastest one or speed 3?
An HD release of this game with proper balance is all want from Capcom.
why would you need an hd release for one of the best looking fighting games of all time?
next you're gonna tell me 3d models look better than sprites lul
proper balance?
Why does it say Balrog?
@@rastas_4221 It's cool how they call Bison Dictator.
And, of course, Balrog (aka Bison) is Boxer. But we already knew that.