And then Marvel Studios walked up behind comple Wanda, stabs her in the back and replaces her with smoothed out crazy emotional woman Wanda... but, at least we got Pizza Poppa.
@@5x5Takes I did not like MoM either!!! My friends kept laughing me because they could see my disappointment and frustration with it as we watched it in theatre 😂 It’s hard for me to think about without my blood boiling. I’m glad I’m not alone on this.
Her plan in MoM was basically to kidnap two children that are alternate versions of hers from another dimension...and murder anyone who gets in her way. Couldn't she have found a dimension with versions of her kids who were orphaned and adopted them? Also she's friends with the Avengers and Doctor Strange. Her first move should have been to go to them for help.
I’m glad MoM exists mostly cuz it follows up on what the end of Wandavision was. Some of her behavior in the last episode was gross and they didn’t pretend like it was ok. That said, I wish she never acted like that to begin with. She could’ve been so much more. They could’ve had a different Wanda play the part of evil Scarlet Witch, as as “what could’ve been” scenario. Instead they made the good Wanda the one who got whatever she wanted, defeating a Wanda who lost everything. I wish things could’ve gone better, and Wandavision was great until some of those creative decisions by the end
For MoM I think they should have kept the original script where Wanda was truly aiding strange during the movie in the quest to defeat Chthon and Nightmare and SLOWLY be corrupted by the wish to be with her children (on camera) and make a face heel turn at the END of the movie. The writer wanted his cake and eat it too. They wanted Wanda the Evil Witch without giving her space to evolve into that. A real shame. Given time and the right circumstances it would have been amazing.
bingo. the problem wasn’t “evil wanda,” it was evil wanda with no substance or purpose. she both has responsibility (ahhhh evil she’s too far gone) and doesn’t (lol it’s just the darkhold) and the result is a bunch of nothing
The current MCU is going too fast with new world-building. There are so many lores to explore. Even the Eternals felt half-baked and rushed despite its many potential.
@@JohnDowson100 Yup. Quantity over quality. Was it due to Bob Chapek? I don't know. But seriously, Eternals is my biggest disappointment. Sersi should be the compassionate and nurturing hero like Ghibli heroine. Yet, due to overly dense plot and lore in the movie, the characters couldn't 'breathe life'.
@@zitronentee Ironically THAT movie would have been the one benefitting from a high budget multi episodes series format. I can't believe they didn't understand it was the only way.
WandaVision is one of the best MCU project out there. Sad that a lot of fans literally want the entire series that is supposed to be centered about Wanda's grief, to be about just setting up other stuff. Like, don't be upset your conspiracy theories didn't come true or what not. Just because it references a lot of comic stuff can mean they are just references. The show is about grief, and love. A beautiful one.
I‘m surprised you didn’t mention that she also specifically chooses Sitcomes and switches the decades (and maybe you could argue she „creates“ these children with the ability to age themselves) to literally speedrun through a domestic life with vision. Right from the first episode things try to break through her control and show her what is happening, even if she doesn’t understand WHAT she’s done at that point, she subconsciously knows she’s on borrowed time and has to get as much as she can out of it. Literally „to grow old in“. It spands what? two? three days? and Wanda is so markedly different at the end, not because she’s the Scarlet Witch, but because she is a Mother now, even if she speedran it. It’s telling how her big final fight is done in her sunday tracksuit and a messy ponytail, THAT is her strength now, her family, that is what gives her the strength to end it. That is what makes her become the Scarlet Witch- which is mostly an afterthought in this show. Which is so unique, because usually this type of story would feel like „tacked on origin story“, just an explanation, with the narrative meat being where this leads us, her main story, BEING the Scarlet Witch, but at least to me it was the other way around. THIS is Wandas story, the core of it; everything after this, is just consequence.
literally i spent most of MoM cheering for wanda because wandavision made me actually care about her plight whereas they never established anything about Strange to like. it's absurd that they wasted her so badly, so soon after having her at the center of their best project.
WandaVision just took so many elements and blended them so well. The acting from Elizabeth Olsen, Paul Bettany and Kathryn Hahn paid homage to each era of TV so perfectly. The way the sitcom device was used to portray mystery, theme and character was masterfully done. The exploration of Wanda and her relationship to Vision was beautiful and that moment of catharsis that started the hex was so special. I could gush about how well crafted this show is for hours but I think you've already done if for me. I'll pretend Multiverse of Madness doesn't exist with you.
Despite its shortcomings theirs something genuine about the grief Wanda goes through. I really connected when she saw the remains of Vision and said he's gone. Sort of like when we go to a funeral we saw our loved ones their in a casket. They look pristine yet their physical presence really sets the finality of it.
there’s such a jump emotionally from wandavision’s “did a bad thing but realized she was hurting people and gave up her husband and children for the greater good” wanda and multiverse of maddness’ “actually fuck it i’m gonna kill so many people” wanda. like i get that the dark hold corrupted her but it’s such a jump and it’s so jarring
Fair enough; I guess one could be like “now Wanda is obsessed with family even more.” I just thought she would pursue that goal subtly instead of being a multiversal villain, and practice dark arts on the side. If her problem involved her being a villainous human (like striking up a relationship that becomes self-destructive) would work. Instead she’s a villain for Doctor Strange’s growth.
@@ma.2089 Why? Agatha had just tried to take her powers and possibly tried to kill Wanda too (we still don't know what she was going to do to Wanda when she thought she had absorbed all her power) I agree Wanda putting her under a mind spell was harsh, but it's not like Agatha was a saint
@@iantaakalla8180 She wasn't even attempting to pursue the goal of a new family, she read the book to learn more about herself then the book began corrupting her and turned her into a psycho. She didn't even know the book could show her the multiverse so how would she have known she could use it to find alternative kids?
Wanda Vision was also one my absolute favourite marvel projects and my favourite Marvel show. It did everything I love in storytelling and made it even better.
WandaVision is such an important piece of media to me. I’ve always been able to relate to Wanda as I’m no stranger to trauma and loss myself. The way she soothes herself by watching sitcoms is utterly familiar to me, as I’m sure it is to many of us watching this video. We all have that one song, show, film, play, album that got us through something rough and serves as a sort of safe haven. That’s the power of art and I love that this show used it to its fullest potential. Even the way she is described later on as using chaos magic should ring a bell to actual practitioners of chaos magick as that is all about manifesting your own reality through small changes, so the fact that she is now a full-blown reality-warper is incredible. The underlying message of creating your own path, finding your own identity and letting art guide you through it is incredibly profound to me. This show was one of the first times I truly felt seen. Thank you for making this video and making me feel seen all over again.
I will never understand how so many people don't seem to get Wandavision. They either somehow absolve Wanda of all that she's done and think she was redeemed by the end because she... stopped mentally and physically enslaving an entire town? Or they believe she's completely evil and that there's nothing that could humanise her. And while I think the show could have done a bit better in their wording with Monica being the mouthpiece of the town towards the end, the show very deliberately does NOT absolve her of her sins, or condemn her completely for them. It just shows the very messy, human parts of her. It's absolutely far and away the best thing to have come out of the MCU.
Fun Fact: Elizabeth Olsen herself said that Wanda has hints of character REGRESSION in Multiverse of Madness because MoM and Wandavision were being made around the same time and the writers of both didn't really talk to each other at all. WandaVision's second part of the season was also still being worked on when its first episode came out. All that is to say WandaVision has arguably the most heart put into it out of any phase 4 project aside from NWH and I can say the fanbases expectations were far too high. It was a character exploration and the Pietro/Evan Peters thing was to pay tribute to both iterations of the character and not an ultimate move to bring them back due to the multiverse. Think about it, WandaVision was pitched and put together in the writers room years before we knew phase 4 would be the start of the Multiverse Saga. My only real concern with the show is that the original final episode got cut and it would've tied up more lose ends in a better way.
Loki, No Way Home and WandaVision are my favourite phase four things. However, I pretty like MoM and it leaves me kind of torn apart... because of Wanda's arc of course. Further more I really like Sam Raimi and Michael Waldron who was the head writer of Loki series and I freaking love the show. I just know if they had done the same to Loki what they did to Wanda, Iď probably never forgive them. He is my most beloved MCU character.
I just wish they found a way to keep Wanda's pacifism in MoM while making her the villain. That's really the core of her character. She is a loving woman who stands for what is right, even if it means sacrificing what she loves for the greater good. She may want to get to her children, but she wouldn't deliberately murder people. Saying that the Darkhold was corrupting her means it should be the antagonist. But that wasn't it. Wanda was. I love the part where she went inside the mind of that one wizard to force everyone to drop their shield. But instead of blasting them off, she decides to finally teleport inside the barrier. From here, she goes close combat and immoblizes sorcerers, temporarily bind them from using magic, and forcing them to sleep. She destroys incoming cannonballs and arrows and ultimately builds her hex to allow her to walk into kamar taj without oppositions. She also escapes the mirror dimension easily. Now she finally speaks with Strange and explains that she's found a reality where her sons have lost their mother and are in trouble. She reassures that she only needs Chavez to transport her to that specific universe. America apologizes as she can't control her power. All of a sudden, Wanda appears from behind her and forces everybody away as she begins to control her mind and create a portal to that world. Strange tries to stop as she must not jump into that universe since it will break the multiverse. Wanda only smiles as she will only do this reality a service and pave a new destiny for the Scarlet Witch, one that will not destroy it. Instead, she will finally go to one that needs a mother who will care for her children. She successfully jumps into the Earth-838. She is the first reality jumper with one version of her transporting to one where another lives (America is the only Chavez in all of the multiverse). This begins to threaten the entire multiverse. Strange and Kamar-taj are experiencing it. Now, Strange's goal is bringing back Wanda to Earth-616 while Wanda stopping him from taking her back. Apparently, the ones who killed that universe's Wanda were the Illuminati, so she'll have face them as well. I think this version is less murderous and more like what Wanda would do?
@@h4rdi7g3 they can make her a villain and keep her character. Wanda proves in WandaVision that she is the type of person who does not want to hurt people even if it means sacrificing the people she loves, as much as it hurts her. She's learning more about herself and her powers so she won't accidentally hurt others. I'm sure there is a way Wanda can be a villain while not having to hurt and kill anyone... I just can't think of anything.
@@h4rdi7g3 not really tbh, like i haven't made the pie chart but as far as I know Wanda's been a hero by far more time, even including House of M which...can we even put that on her when quicksilver was mostly at fault?
Darkhold did corrupt her. Darkhold is known to corrupt people. In comics reading even a little bit of it, it basically changes their whole personality while this one just tricks them into giving them what they want. Wanda did snap out of it by her own kids.
@@h4rdi7g3 Not true. People need to stop using her only version which is the house of M where she basically lost everyone got manipulated then brainwashed and manipulated again. And somehow people cant seem to realize that she fixed it afterwards. What about the comic where she saved everyone from the Darkhold creator(i dont remember his name Cthon?)? Not only that in others comics she appears as a hero.
In all of Wanda's story, I will always miss that they never gave her and Tony any scenes together to resolve their issues. They impacted each other and the world in impossibly profound ways - Tony's name was on that missile which lead to her joining Hydra, which lead to her getting powers and zapping Tony, which lead to him creating Ultron, which lead to Sokovia being destroyed and her brother's death, which coupled with Wanda's Lagos accident, lead to the Sokovia Accords that Tony backed out of guilt for creating Ultron which lead to Civil War where Wanda was incarcerated and then went on the run and falling in love with Vision who wouldn't have existed if not for Tony creating Ultron (again, that he only did because of Wanda).... really, the feedback loop between Tony and Wanda impacted the MCU more than any conflict between Tony and Steve.
I think fundamentally filmmakers and TV writers are in such a hurry to get where they're going that they forget to slow down and tell a human story. So when someone actually makes that time to slow down and have a human experience with their characters, it resonates with the audience. I wish this was something more writers would take to heart. Also, loved your nod to Catra with the bit about "familiar equals safe."
WandaVision has been my favorite MCU project since it came out. Initially it was because of my love of old sitcoms, because of course I was raised on Nick at Nite. So yeah, the nostalgia reeled me in. But the heart of it is what won me over.
As someone who got into the MCU during the pandemic, Wandavision was the 1st MCU project I watched with the full knowledge of the mcu and it's what solidified me as a fan. Wanda is my favorite character and seeing where she goes is a lot of why I am continuing to watch. She was grieving the loss of Vision and her brother while I had just lost my father. The show came at the right time for me and was the escape i needed. TV show format allows for amazing character work that movies can never do more often the not.
Tbh, I’ve always liked Wanda and Vision, even before the show. The performances of and chemistry between the actors was strong enough that i was invested in them despite how little screen time they got. I was so happy that wandavision was everything I felt these characters deserved and more. I really hope their stories get to continue in a satisfying way
Part of me wishes they would make Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (and maybe Runaways) canon just so they can better explain that Wanda didn't just go crazy out of nowhere. They literally established that the Darkhold corrupts anyone who reads/uses it. Of course, I also thought the end credits scene of WandaVision was going to connect somehow to what was going on with Wenwu and the Dweller In Darkness in Shang-Chi, so what do I know?
Why do people assume detractors of that cinematic abortion “don’t get” that the Darkhold was making her evil?! We get it… and it’s dumb. Just because it is written as a reason does not make for good storytelling. Let me try and give you an example. Let’s take a generic James Bond scenario. Dr. No-Finger has removed the Boron control rods from a nuclear reactor, and it’s going to explode. Tied to the top of the reactor is Bond’s long-lost mother, thought dead for all these years. He has a way to stop the meltdown, but it would kill his mother in the process. He has an idea, it’s a long shot but if he pulls it off he can…. …then James Bond has a fatigue spell, and has to sit down. His head is cloudy, and there are specks of blood on his breath. See, with all the passionate lovemaking with strangers over the years, 007 caught a mutant strain of syphillis. We’re going to ignore the nuclear meltdown and lost family, and follow James on his new quest of going to the doctor to get a round of antibiotics. Does it work, as a series of events that can plausibly occur? Yes. Does it make for good storytelling? NO!!! The same goes for the entire “oh, but it’s the Darkhold that made Wanda evil, so MoM is a great movie” b.s.
@@davidmcleod5133 Never claimed MoM was a great movie. In fact, I think AoS did a much better job exploring the themes of both corruption and alternate realities in their 4th season, which also featured the Darkhold. MoM just had a bigger special effects budget, while AoS could barely afford to have Ghost Rider guest-star.
Agents of SHIELD started out 100% canon, it just gradually became... definitely not canon, and then they blew the Earth in half in S5 and then you knew it would stay non-canon. I'd love to see Chloe Bennet's Quake make a proper MCU debut, but they'd basically have to soft reboot her character in order to justify her presence. It bums me out that they eventually gave up the crossover arcs with the movies.
Okay, I’m glad you brought up Agents of Shield. Honestly, my love of AOS is the only thing that brought DOWN WandaVision for me (although I overall liked it). The problem is that many of the elements we saw in WandaVision had already been done by Agents of Shield - and with more time to shine there. 1)We already saw different eras and fun time-appropriate clothing for our characters in season 7. Many of those episodes were similarly done in a stylized way to fit each aesthetic. 2)We had the Darkhold slowly and mysteriously corrupting people with nice build-up and drama in season 4. In fact, I found the Darkhold to be a lot scarier in AOS, including how it changed its form to fit the reader (even Aida). When they revealed the book that Agatha was reading, it was all bad cgi and weird scribbling with a random picture of a feminine form…. We can argue that the Darkhold took that shape for Agatha specifically or we can make our peace with it being a different book due to the different timelines, but either way -I couldn’t take it seriously. It looked cheap and I didn’t feel the same overall dread as I did when they built up its effect through storytelling in AOS. 3)We had a place where reality is warped to resolve deep character regrets within the Framework part of AOS season 4. Literally…. also because of the Darkhold. 4)We had confused characters struggling to remember their true reality and escape, also in AOS season 4. 5)We had Mack raising his only child inside of the simulation, who is not alive in the real world. We see him trying to stay with his daughter, despite it being a fake reality, just to lose her anyway. I didn’t feel as bad for Wanda when she lost her children as I did for Mack, as awful as that sounds. Maybe just because we had spent more time with Mack over the span of his series? Or because his daughter was realizing she wasn’t real at the very end? The theme of our characters trying desperately to bring back someone they lost (consequences be damned) is also prevalent (although less pointedly) in Daisy’s actions towards LMD Phil, Radcliffe’s toward Agnes, and Jemma’s later seasons searching for Fitz. 6)Lastly, AOS had multiple instances of characters we like becoming the villain to serve a sympathetic goal. I mean, AOS wasn’t perfect by any means, but it was a great time and I SAW all this already. So…at the end of WandaVision, I was bored. It had beautiful acting. Lovely aesthetic and better production. The moments touching on Wanda’s grief were also amazing. But either no one on the staff watched Agents of Shield and they thought they were doing something new….. or they just blatantly ripped off of it. In which case, they should have tried harder to elevate the plot points that were the same into something much more poignant than Shield and I don’t think they did. It’s such a weird vibe when both projects take place in the same multiverse, made by the same company. And, yeah: I do much prefer WandaVision to MoM.
The only reason why I think it shouldn't have been the MCU's first TV show is that it set the standard so high that none of the other MCU TV shows could live up to its first project. I agree that it's a great way to break into the small screen, but at the same time it has led to just being disappointed in the shows that followed.
For some reason, Wanda _GREATLY_ reminds me of Catra from _She-Ra._ Please tell me I'm not the only one who notices at least _some_ similarities between the two.
I can see where you're coming from. They're both gray characters who are traumatized and go on to do bad things due to their trauma. We understand as audience members that trauma isn't a free pass to hurt others, but like it's said, "hurt people, hurt people". Well done gray characters are relatable because we ourselves are gray people. We understand but don't condone their actions; we see ourselves in them and want to see them (and by extension, ourselves) succeed. As for the similarities, I'd say it's their shared "loss" in their loved one that causes them to hurt those around them, intentionally or not. They also lack a certain amount of agency in their own lives: Catra's every waking moment being dictated by Shadow Weaver and Hordak; and Wanda being at the mercy of scientists and the Avengers/World ending events. Ultimately, having absolute power in both cases doesn't solve their grief: Catra being in charge of The Horde doesn't bring Adora back and Wanda's powers can't truly bring Vision back, at least not without keeping the entire town hostage and in incredible pain. As similar as they seem, I'd say they're similar the same way that two superhero movies are similar in that they're both genres of characters/stories rather than genuinely similar characters. Catra's journey (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm still murky on her character arc) is about understanding that Adora didn't abandon *her* but the cause (and Adora has to meet her halfway by realizing that being The Hero all the time is toxic), and Wanda's journey is accepting the death of her spouse.
@sdsanz92 _Damn_ you're better at this than I am!! 😂. Also, I'd say that another part of Catra's character arc is that whether or not she was abused and misguided/mistreated by Shadow Weaver and Hordak, she _also_ has to learn that the bad actions that she _does_ take and make throughout the series _are her own._ She _chose_ to make Adora her own enemy and actively work against her simply because Adora made new friends in Bow and Glimmer and Adora was 'naive' for not realizing that The Horde was evil beforehand;she _chose_ to physically and mentally essentially torture and abuse both Adora _and_ her friends, many, _many_ times;she _chose_ to betray Entrapta and send her to Beast Island, whilst also deliberately lying to Hordak about it, telling him that she'd simply 'betrayed' Hordak;and she actively _chose_ to open up that portal which basically nearly _killed_ Adora and the rest of the Princesses of the Princess Alliance, and also nearly _destroyed the world and all of reality right along with it._ So, yeah. Catra's reasons for her actions _may_ be understandable, but they, along with her actions regarding all those reasons, are _certainly NOT_ justifiable at all, _or excusable._ She _basically_ committed an absolute _SHIT-TON_ of fucking _war crimes,_ making her a veritable Stage 5 Class war criminal, in my books, at least. And keep in mind, this is coming from someone like _me,_ a self-proclaimed and self-professed Catra _stan._ :P.
There are actually not enough words to describe how special WandaVision is, watching this video and listening to your insights I nearly started crying again. The psychological and emotional depth with which it touched sooo many of us, the pure love that it contains. (Disagree though on how the MCU “lacked” character depth, the incredible thing about the MCU always was they put character first- this show only did it on a whole new much higher level. MoM though truly is one of the worst things ever.)
WandaVision and Black Widow have impacted me the most (along with CA:TWS and Endgame) and I still hold them dear to my heart. Both of their journeys hit me so hard and it always drives me to tears. Wanda and Natasha characters are so driven by their past and present choices, as well as their traumatic pasts, and the way they deal with them are very different. They are still impacting me today.
wanda vision needs more hype it rly was exceptional. hands down the best marvel project to date. you can “like” a different movie more but objectively this story goes so much deeper than any other project has
I was always invested in Wanda. She's one of the few Marvel characters that I actually knew stuff about from the comics. While I liked the creativity of her powers displayed in MoM, I felt that movie did such a disservice to her character journey. I think one my pet peeves with the MCU is that they strict about plot interconnectivity but loose with characterization connectivity. It's why Thor always resets every single movie. It's why Bruce/Hulk is just a joke machine and never really got a chance to explore his struggle beyond surface-level. WandaVision proved to the MCU that you could have deep, meaningful character work and water cooler moments. It's stuck with me and I haven't been able to watch other MCU shows. I loved Loki. Falcon & the Winter Soldier was very mixed and messy but still enjoyable. I didn't finish Hawkeye. Every MCU show afterwards just feels like diminishing returns. I can't bring myself to spend anymore time on these shows.
I don't think I have ever felt (or will ever feel) as emotionally connected to a piece of media as WandaVision. As you perfectly describe, what makes WandaVision so special and unique in the MCU is that it is a deeply human story. It doesn't shy away from, or make light of, the pain that Wanda has been through. Her journey in the show is something we can all on some level relate too. When it came out in 2021 I was battling with my own depression and grief after losing a loved one to cancer in June 2020. I didn't know how to move forward. Like Wanda I often took comfort in my favourite movies and tv shows, watching them over and over because I knew the endings, they were familiar and safe. WandaVision really made me confront my grief and begin to process it episode by episode with Wanda. I wish that in the midst of writing the action scenes and quippy lines, more writers would remember the importance of emotional depth and human characters. As cool as it may be to watch the Avengers save the world, it was WandaVision that saved me.
"Everything is Grey" Omg love the Halsey reference!!! Also just love the video, Wandavision has been such a comfort show especially when I'm grieving and Wanda has always been such a comfort character for me since her first appearance in the Captain America end credit scene. Her character assassination was truly despicable. Thank you so much for the video! Truly is so beautiful!
This was the first MCU project I ever watched. My mom heard about it because it used sitcom tropes and we wanted to see what shows we could point out (my family has always been really big on sitcoms). Wandavision will always have a special place in my heart as not only my first MCU project, but definitely my favourite!
What they did to Wanda in MoM, made me so upset that I’m now writing my own version of her. I’ve never written before but man, I feel that even I can write a better character that was she was in MoM. So that’s what I’m going to do.
Apart from Peter Tony and Steve, the only other character I was extremely invested in when I started this was Wanda. When Infinity War premired, we could see her in a different angle it was an adjustment, but I loved it. Her moment against Thanos had me rooting for her. I became super invested in her afterward. So when it was announced she would be the first to get a TV series, I was super excited. This show is a unique creation that is far different than what the mcu has produced before seeing the characterization of wanda and vision. It was beautiful, and seeing her tragedy was a painful and sorrowful experience. This was her first chapter through the grief. I don't wanna linger on this too long either, but it's unfortunate when new writers don't expand on what the characters have done in previous stories, so then we get 180s like MoM. It saddens me deeply, but it just happens something similar happened with Thor after infinity war any character can be affected by this sadly. However, Wanda will forever be my favorite character alongside Tony. I'm still invested in her story. I want to see where she can go from here. Even if it only goes down, Wandavision will always remain special to me.
As someone who has lived through childhood, sexual and physical trauma, I carry those scars every day. When you said that her trauma doesn’t excuse her actions, you are right, they explain her actions. Until you get healthy, a traumatized person can be so destructive to themselves and others, without ever meeting to be.
I love this break down and analysis of Wanda. Too often the extremes of absolving her or demonizing her get played out in the discourse and I feel like this perfectly balances what the show aimed yet ultimately failed to convey. I still think, despite it's faults toward the end, that WandaVision is the best thing to come out of Phase 4. Great video
I loved WandaVision, it's my favorite MCU project ever so it was so heartbreaking, dissapointing, confusing, frustrating and just annoying to watch Multiverse of Madness and see what they chose to do with her character. And the worst part is most people seem to think her behavior in MoM is perfectly consistent with her character, they always use the "she tortured an entire town" thing as a reason why it makes sense for her to suddenly start killing people, but they always leave out the nuance that made her create and maintain the hex in the first place. I actually think WandaVision was maybe too complex for most people to comprehend, it's such a layered story but all people saw was a crazy woman torturing people for fun. And another thing I hated was the complete absence of Vision, this is a woman who was so heartbroken about her loss of Vision that it unlocked an insanely powerful ability she didn't even know she had, then all of sudden she's over him and is instead focused on the kids? Her love for Vision literally opened up her reality warping abilities, how do you just get over a love that powerful? God I hate this movie so much, and the people who support it annoy the f*** out of me, they don't don't understand Wanda or WandaVision at all.
Truly such a great analogy and reflection of this cinematic masterpiece. This video alone helped me understand key reasons as to why I had such an affinity to this program and continue to due so. Thank you so much
This is all really well said. I never cared for Wanda and Visions storyline in the movies and Wandavision became one of my favourite shows of all time. The show made me really fall in love with the characters and I rooted for them the entire time, I was heartbroken when Wanda has to say goodbye to Vision again. The sitcom aspect was so incredibly creative and engaging. Time to rewatch for the 3rd time!
I adore your video. Bout to smash that subscribe button and I thought I'd chime in. I loved WandaVision too. I think they dropped the ball a little with developing her character in MoM, but given all the busy-ness behind the scenes during development, I give the film a little pass. My read on Wanda's story after she left Westview was that she had just left there with even MORE unresolved trauma. So despite the fact that she was able to thwart Agatha and SWORD, she still is on the run, has no support system, has had no meaningful therapy in healing from her traumas and has come into possession of a book that promises incredible powers and corrupts everyone who touches it - including a wounded and broken Scarlet Witch.
I am a huge fan of Buffy, and WV has a lot of similarities. A mysterious reality altering situation, like in one of the monster of the week episodes, trauma, emotions and how that mixes with power, relationships, and how those change character arcs etc. It has buffy season 6 vibes and I love it.
@@Breadstick624Games How is Agent Carter not canon, though? I don't think it contradicts any of the MCU. It's included in the chronological watch order on disney+. She didn't specify canon, so my point was, Wandavision wasn't the first, as it wasn't the first. Sometimes, a true thing can just be a true thing.
I enjoyed Mask of Madness after I left the theater but overtime I quickly soured on it. This video reminds me how angry I am over that movie. The key reason is that the MoM team admitted they didn't actually watch Wandavision, they only verified basic details. For a movie franchise that was built on the idea of building up on established prior works MoM was a huge disservice to us fans watching this content and the main characters Wanda and Vision and even their kids. They wasted 3 characters and didn't know how to incorporate another.
They literally had all the scripts in front of them and understood what the show was about. What more do you want? Plus the last scene of WandaVision really hammers down the direction Wanda’s character was always going to go. At the very least in MoM not only she’s facing the consequenses of her actions in WandaVision to some extent, which was a major critisisim there but she’s finally having agency over her actions rather than being either manipulated, controlled or possessed.
@@Roaches591 What does it matter if she was originally or not the villain? MoM makes her realistically make another push to have what she desire because of how things ended in WandaVision. This also made her the perfect foil to Strange bcuz both characters have a toxic relationship with control, which is rooted in the fear of failure. Strange bcuz he couldn’t control to what happened with his sister, Wanda bcuz she couldn’t save Vision or her family. They both have to learn that they can’t control everything to conquer their fears. Also I doubt that Wanda becoming villain in a future Avenger’s movie would have been better because it could've lead to an even worse version of House of M and/or Avengers Disassembled (which are some of the worst comics for Wanda in terms of her characterization) and Marvel isn’t known for ‘’improving’’ on the source material with Phase 4 being the biggest example (Jane Foster’s storyline and She-Hulk for example)
@@Roaches591 Sorry I’m not doing the ‘’answer in one sentence’’ challenge lol. We literally saw her using the Darkhold at the end of WandaVision. Next we cut to back some time to MoM and we see it has influnced her. Simple! There is no need to see her actually getting the dark nails or whatever. Also your critisim makes no sense. If Wanda is supposed to embody humanity at it’s best and worse (like it’s said in the video), then it’s very realistic that she would try another push to have what she desires. People with addiction don’t just decide to stop taking or doing whatever it is that is addiciting them. They fail at least few times until they finally learn to let go of their addiction, which is exactly what Wanda’s arc is.
Wandavision is GOATed. It came at such a perfect time in my life, yes everyone was dealing with COVID, but I had just lost my grandpa, when episode 08? Came out. I lost him, had a pre scheduled trip out of town for my now defunct video production company, and when Vision said ‘what is grief if not love preserving?’ I bawled my eyes out, I was watching with a friend too so it was a bit embarrassing but damn.
Honestly, I never liked Wanda...until WandaVision. Growing up, TV was my life line. I didn't have many friends, but I always had TV. I watched a ridiculous amount of sitcoms and getting to see the love letter to TV sitcoms that is WandaVision AND it had a point!? *chef kiss* perfection.
Exceptional Video and absolutely agree with everything poured into this video about why WANDAVISION Supremacy is Alive & Well…. I so appreciate all the attention to detail and all the hard work put into making this analysis!!! Such a Great Presentation! Highly recommend you watch if you are a fan of WANDA, WandaVision! Thank YOU! One thing however (and mostly stemming from reading the comments under the TH-cam video!) that people forget about MOM…is that during the emotional/character/story arch climax…of the film… (***SPOILERS AHEAD*** : don’t read further, if you’ve never watched “WANDAVISION” or “Dr. Strange 2 & Multiverse of Madness” or any of the rest of her story arch, within the Greater MCU!!!) Towards the final moments… We were given/shown SUCH a powerful scene, when our Wanda/Scarlet Witch sees the terror in her children’s faces when they see her…and what’s she’s done… She realizes how far gone she’s allowed herself to be…or how irreversibly damaged her psyche truly is… In that tragic moment she truly understands and repents for the MONSTER she’s become & is depicted as remorseful, repentant …shaped back into a more humanized version of herself, in those last few key moments…falling to her knees…crying inconsolably… This COSMICALLY POWERFUL ULTRA SUPER MEGA WITCH…SUPERHERO…Avenger…turned Villain…reduced and regressed to the “inner wounded child” who has amassed more trauma, than most could barely fathom and likely never will… There she was…exposed and at her most vulnerable…the pain of her destructive ways…finally knocking sense into her lost self… The scene where Earth 838 Wanda & Earth 616 Scarlet Witch…interact…in front of that gazebo window…was done so poetically , masterfully & effectively… The nuances of it kinda flew over most peoples’ heads, I think…they must have!!! Wanda from 838 showed *Mercy* to Scarlet Witch 616, standing upright in front of her & extending her arm…while the latter was still kneeling in despair and remorse…crying… The symbolism Of that was POIGNANT and hit me hard!!! It felt very Jesus/Biblical to me!!! The Fallen & The Ascended… Light & Dark…all within US, embodied in different aspects of our multi-dimensional self! Both of them, as ONE…coming together to each other’s aid… In that moment 838 Wanda reassures 616 Scarlet Witch that…it’s OK… ”Know that the kids will be loved”… That mutual LOVE for their children …no matter from what reality they came from or ended up in…as a common denominator and shared aspect about how above all else…they are both MOTHERS…who love their kids to death…who would do anything to be with them & reunite with them and also protect them… …both Wandas understanding the subtleties & internal processes of that kinda motherly love and sacred bond… …the way only a Mother can see and understand another Mother…like that… (no matter how MAD, hurt or blond one might have become, on this conquest!) in this case…HER OWN SELF…just from two different polar opposite perspectives…witnessing & empathizing…accepting & integrating… and how that kinda subtle resonance between them, in those moments…was recognized/acknowledged by both Wandas…so beautifully… (Both played exceptionally by Elizabeth Olsen!) Kinda created a cosmically UNIFYING, Omnipotent/Omnipresent moment for me…(even in Real Life…) in their simultaneous depiction… where both timelines/both Wanda’s shifted for the better and healed by helping one another…remember!!! Coming to realize that ultimately they are the SAME ONE SOUL/Spirit in different earths/parallel dimensions/timelines/Universes!!!! The Compassion & Mercy shown to her, by a version of herself…was what took for our 616 Wanda…to feel strong enough, to make things right again by destroying the Darkhold (which corrupted her!) and possibly choosing to kill herself…so as to be absolved of her sins, entirely…and thus to be reborn… or at least surrender fully to the other aspects/versions of herself…who are faring much better/happier/healthier than her…within the Multiverse!!! The Selflessness and Surrender in that…juxtaposing the extreme selfishness & forceful control, that came earlier in the film…was just WOW!!! Moreover, 838 Wanda also realized that what happened to 616 Scarlet Witch could very well, have easily happened to her too…if her children were also taken away from her… No one else could afford to grant her that kinda Grace…& Compassion, that was needed… and even if someone else did… most likely, it wouldn’t be to the same/equal effect!!! It had to have come from EACH OTHER…meaning from within our/her multi-dimensional self!!! Higher & Lower… Light & Dark… meeting halfway to bring WHOLENESS!!! Which in and of itself is so profoundly layered and just again WOW…for me…in a superhero film like that… those 2 moments redeemed the quick and rushed Descent into Madness, for Wanda in MOM, for me…which yes, rubbed a lot of WandaVision fans off the wrong way!!! Dare I say, however…that personally, I found the DIVINE SACRED PRIESTESS RAGE coming from her, earlier in the film, going all batshit crazy & being consumed by her Darkness…was delightfully dangerous & darkly delicious!!! And also frankly…extremely relatable! I’ve been there!!! Anyone who has gone through massive trauma and has snapped …found the courage to play with their own demons…understands the lure of that kinda intoxicating power!!! It happens outta nowhere!!! Unintentionally, no matter how well one meant…initially… It’s addictive…and implosive/self harming…yet highly destructive for everyone else around, all at once…!!! Basically, my point being… Wanda in MOM wasn’t as bad or as lacking as people make it out to be… Could there be more “on screen”…DarkHold-Corruption and harrowing descent into Madness, depicted for Wanda??? Absolutely! Did we get enough key, story elements to go off of…??? 100% we did! I think! Most likely, we were all just thrown off and butthurt that she was the “plus one”, in Dr. Strange’s film…instead of THE HEADLINER of her own film… cuz we y’all know we were ALL…SO ready for that, after WandaVision! Which Marvel/the MCU can certainly course correct & fix that, in the future!!! Hopefully! 😊🤞🏼 “What is Grief?…if not LOVE, persevering?” 🫶🏻💯⚡️🔥🕊️🙏🏼🌹🩸❤️👁️
Amazing Video! I’ve always loved Wanda. I actually first really got to know her from the comics The Young Avengers. And she’s not even in that. Those are about her sons Billy and Tommy (and other Avengers’s kids). But because I love Billy so much Wanda is always right there as well.
So glad i found this video! Ive been a very committed fan of this marvel series amidst all of them and felt this one held up the strongest in retrospect. Glad to see others enjoy it still as well!
"Im not here to unearth horse bone for further brutalization." Great phrasing. 16:26 I adore your take on all this. I loved the show, too. How it took us through her mind.
i remember watching the bee keeper come out and being shocked by the sheer lynch-ianess of that moment. I honestly wished they had leaned into more twin peaks vibes (provided of course they didn't sacrifice elements of the amazing character study).
now I’m thinking of the whole industry, for being a show it’s something I have never thought someone could pull in such a creative and powerful way. Wandavision will be the one project that literally changed my thoughts about marvel and their potential of doing something creative and fun but just fantastic.
When I was introduced to Wanda by MCU, I immediately knew she's gonna be my comfort character. My heart goes out to her and I can totally relate to her grief as I have been through it too. The trauma she had is no stranger to me. In a way, watching MCU projects has been my own version of Wanda's sitcoms. It's my own healing and my own way of leaving reality to escape from my problems even just for a little while. WandaVisionwill always have the same impact on me even if i watch it for the nth time. Watching this in depth video about the series, it made me love WandaVision more.
I’ve never been a Marvel fan. I still don’t think I ever will be, but I loved this show. I’m so glad I gave it a chance when I did. Character studies are some of my favorite pieces of media, and I think that’s exactly why I dislike marvel and why I love this show. That being said, me disliking marvel is just another addition to why this show is so good. I didn’t catch the references, I didn’t know the backstory. But I still got connected to this character. I didn’t need tons of movies to *know* Wanda. All I needed was this one show.
Can I just say that this was the best essay or essay video on anything I have ever seen. I have seen wandavision so many times again and again and yet somehow you still manage to show me things I didn't notice before
What an insanely well-articulated and heartfelt retrospective on the meta masterpiece that is WandaVision!! I am so grateful that there are people on this planet who can recognise and relate to the depth of this show and Wanda as a character in the same way that I do. As someone who has become very introverted, dissociative and passive to cope with and heal from my personal trauma, thinking of myself as a witch just like Wanda brings me more comfort than anything else in the world. This video perfectly expresses how this show made me feel ever since that second trailer dropped and what WandaVision continues to mean for me 💝 I also actually just binged the entirety of WandaVision today with a reluctant friend who hadn't seen it before... P.S. They were also "surprised" by how profound an experience it turned out to be despite being an MCU project 😊
WV and Moon Knight are prob some of the best MCU has produced. I recommend those. There’s other stuff, but if you want some more info on MK, I recommend checking out Cinema Therapy’s vid on it
Hard to believe it’s been almost two years since Wandavision debuted on Disney+. Phase 4 is now over and I agree that Wandavision is still the best show with MoM being one of the worst MCU movies. Can’t wait to see Wanda and Vision’s story continue with Wandavision quality. Thank you for this video.
I love this review. I had only seen Black Panther , the ant man movies and the guardians of the galaxy movies. Not really knowing that they were apart of a larger narrative. I just so happened to watch Wanda Vision during the pandemic and I was so blown away and so confused lol. I literally went back and watch every single marvel project (excluding the Netflix and CW shows ) just for the Scarlet Witch. She’s one of my favorite character arcs of any anti hero
While it is true that we can get very dissapointed with what we received in MoM with Wanda, another thing you've said that is entirely true is that, 'Wanda dind't fully healed after everything in WandaVision', so somewhat is understandable that she would become mad after reading at least one page of the darkhold, however it is also confusing because they dind't even gave us time to see her slowly becoming mad and having her thoughts deformed if they wanted to make her the villain so much. It felt rushed and even forced without having any type of explanation; the only one being the post credit scene in WV. MoM has a LOT of failures and incosistencies, however just like you stated, I also think it is the start for Wanda, so that's why I dind't give up on the character because she can still have depth on her if a good writer decides to take action about it. Like, I would love to see Wanda interacting with Peter. Two people who suffered a lot and went through pain as the years passed and could understand and relate to one another on maybe a film or series. It would be simply beautiful So I'Il just wait for the day her redemption comes naturally and beautifully and not as something forced just because haters are hating in the character now. I'm sure the Scarlet Witch's story just begun and we still have many things to see from her from now on.
This was so SO beautifully made, it mirrors the impact of the show. I cried because of your analysis, and then the end (you're evil for including that bit). I hope you're proud of this
It's defenitly the MCU project that hit me the most , after Dr strange mom i lost hope for the MCU i felt so disappointed with the writing especially the way they ruined Wanda she and Peter Parker are the only living MCU characters i still cared for so after that movie I'm not invested in marvel anymore I entered phase 4 optimistic Wandavision rewarded my trust it wasn't perfect but it was the best the MCU had ever offered me , nwh reassured me too despite the other shows and movies being a disappointment but after multiverse of garbage i have lost hope in marvel but I'll still look back at Wandavision the one time marvel hit me on the deepest level emotionally and made me relate to a fictional character so much that it hurt
This was very well presented and exactly how I feel about Wandavision. It's 9am and I'm crying. Great video. I'm waiting for the MCU to hit me this hard again.
A beautiful video showcasing everything I loved about the show, I agree that it is by far best thing Marvel ever did. It had some serious problems - It REALLY didnt need to end with double "fighting evil version of the hero" trope (If we absolutely need to have a fight, wouldnt it be more fun if Wanda fought Cataract and Vision fight Agatha? At least would mix it up a little) and entire Monica Rambeau subplot felt shoehorned in. Probably because how personal and intimate to Wanda specifically the story was. Monica had zero connection to her and felt really unneeded. But again. this show was incredible and most human thing Ive seen from Marvel (GotG 2 was close at times I guess) Made me also appreciate how great actress Elizabeth Olsen is.
I love WandaVision, there was so much character growth from Wanda, she was finally given time to grieve and accept that loss of Vision and of the future he wanted for them... and then Multiverse of Madness threw it all out the window.
A really underrated marvel show that has been more or less forgotten about is Legion - whilst its not directly set in the MCU, it’s still a marvel show - and it incorporated elements that Wandavision and more has years before they do it, and it is amazing, fantastic characters and story alongside unique sci fi - would recommend if you haven’t already watched it.
I got into the MCU when I was in college and I don't feel like I consciously chose it, but jumped on a bandwagon that still has me. And like you, I have a "your mileage may vary" on the emotional impact each MCU project makes. Wandavision resonates with me the most emotionally because like Wanda, I loved watching TV and what you said about Buffy resonates with me as well. (Plus, hello! Emma Caulfield is in this show! She seriously needed more screentime.) I still have brainspace where I imagine Wanda basically being in Wicked with Monica being Glinda. The only other MCU projects that gave me the most emotionally were Spider-Man Homecoming and Ms. Marvel. And I think it's because those films embraced the character-centric focus, Ms. Marvel even more so.
This video has been in my watch later since in came out, and i’ve finally watched the series and thus also this video. and man, you hit it out of the park every time.
Love your analysis! I too love WandaVision solely because it veered away from the usual MCU formula and showed us what a relatable character Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch really is. I really irritates me that so many are so quick to condemn her for succumbing to her losses and making mistakes as a result and comparing her to other heroes whose mistakes are a direct result of their own arrogance and even stupidity. While many of things Wanda has done are truly inexcusable, anyone quick to vilify her for not better handling her tragedies probably hasn't yet suffer a truly significant loss in their life yet. Well done!
“Unearth horse bones for further brutalization” I’m stealing that! I’ve never actually hated a Marvel movie before MoM. I’ve felt ambivalent before, but I left that theatre seething over what they had done to Wanda!
WandaVision was a masterpiece…and then Micheal Waldron walked up to The Scarlet Witch and spat in her face with that disgrace of a movie called Multiverse of Madness and what it did to her. She deserves so much better.
WandaVision is what got me into the MCU (i had seen some movies here and there but didn't really realize there was a larger story being told) and although I like most of Phase 4 (some personal favourites are The Eternals, Black Panther 2 and She-Hulk), nothing has come close to making me feel what WV did. It's not surprising but "What is grief if not love persevering?" hit me so hard, especially going thru real life grief while I was watching the show. I'm hyped for the upcoming lineup of projects but idk if any will hit the same as this show did!
And then Marvel Studios walked up behind comple Wanda, stabs her in the back and replaces her with smoothed out crazy emotional woman Wanda... but, at least we got Pizza Poppa.
thinking about MoM gives me psychic damage
@@5x5Takes I did not like MoM either!!! My friends kept laughing me because they could see my disappointment and frustration with it as we watched it in theatre 😂 It’s hard for me to think about without my blood boiling. I’m glad I’m not alone on this.
Her plan in MoM was basically to kidnap two children that are alternate versions of hers from another dimension...and murder anyone who gets in her way. Couldn't she have found a dimension with versions of her kids who were orphaned and adopted them? Also she's friends with the Avengers and Doctor Strange. Her first move should have been to go to them for help.
I’m glad MoM exists mostly cuz it follows up on what the end of Wandavision was. Some of her behavior in the last episode was gross and they didn’t pretend like it was ok.
That said, I wish she never acted like that to begin with. She could’ve been so much more. They could’ve had a different Wanda play the part of evil Scarlet Witch, as as “what could’ve been” scenario. Instead they made the good Wanda the one who got whatever she wanted, defeating a Wanda who lost everything. I wish things could’ve gone better, and Wandavision was great until some of those creative decisions by the end
@@toddregnier4966 trying to make that movie make sense is a fruitless exercise. save your brain
"What is grief, if not love persevering?" Will live in my head for the rest of time.
Other than her creating the hex, that was my fave bit too. I went from crying to ugly sobbing 🥂
Loved that. However, what people remember for the rest of time will be Ralph Bohner instead.
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@@itsamaniartsI knew it was a banger but the fact that I lost someone 3 years after and that line was so comforting when I remembered it 😭
For MoM I think they should have kept the original script where Wanda was truly aiding strange during the movie in the quest to defeat Chthon and Nightmare and SLOWLY be corrupted by the wish to be with her children (on camera) and make a face heel turn at the END of the movie. The writer wanted his cake and eat it too. They wanted Wanda the Evil Witch without giving her space to evolve into that. A real shame. Given time and the right circumstances it would have been amazing.
bingo. the problem wasn’t “evil wanda,” it was evil wanda with no substance or purpose. she both has responsibility (ahhhh evil she’s too far gone) and doesn’t (lol it’s just the darkhold) and the result is a bunch of nothing
The current MCU is going too fast with new world-building. There are so many lores to explore. Even the Eternals felt half-baked and rushed despite its many potential.
@@zitronentee too much content. Faige is stretched too thin and the quality has lowered.
@@JohnDowson100 Yup. Quantity over quality. Was it due to Bob Chapek? I don't know.
But seriously, Eternals is my biggest disappointment. Sersi should be the compassionate and nurturing hero like Ghibli heroine. Yet, due to overly dense plot and lore in the movie, the characters couldn't 'breathe life'.
@@zitronentee Ironically THAT movie would have been the one benefitting from a high budget multi episodes series format. I can't believe they didn't understand it was the only way.
WandaVision is one of the best MCU project out there. Sad that a lot of fans literally want the entire series that is supposed to be centered about Wanda's grief, to be about just setting up other stuff. Like, don't be upset your conspiracy theories didn't come true or what not. Just because it references a lot of comic stuff can mean they are just references. The show is about grief, and love. A beautiful one.
Would recommend Legion btw as another good Marvel project kinda similar to wanda
Thank you
I‘m surprised you didn’t mention that she also specifically chooses Sitcomes and switches the decades (and maybe you could argue she „creates“ these children with the ability to age themselves) to literally speedrun through a domestic life with vision. Right from the first episode things try to break through her control and show her what is happening, even if she doesn’t understand WHAT she’s done at that point, she subconsciously knows she’s on borrowed time and has to get as much as she can out of it. Literally „to grow old in“. It spands what? two? three days? and Wanda is so markedly different at the end, not because she’s the Scarlet Witch, but because she is a Mother now, even if she speedran it. It’s telling how her big final fight is done in her sunday tracksuit and a messy ponytail, THAT is her strength now, her family, that is what gives her the strength to end it. That is what makes her become the Scarlet Witch- which is mostly an afterthought in this show. Which is so unique, because usually this type of story would feel like „tacked on origin story“, just an explanation, with the narrative meat being where this leads us, her main story, BEING the Scarlet Witch, but at least to me it was the other way around. THIS is Wandas story, the core of it; everything after this, is just consequence.
literally i spent most of MoM cheering for wanda because wandavision made me actually care about her plight whereas they never established anything about Strange to like. it's absurd that they wasted her so badly, so soon after having her at the center of their best project.
WandaVision just took so many elements and blended them so well. The acting from Elizabeth Olsen, Paul Bettany and Kathryn Hahn paid homage to each era of TV so perfectly. The way the sitcom device was used to portray mystery, theme and character was masterfully done. The exploration of Wanda and her relationship to Vision was beautiful and that moment of catharsis that started the hex was so special. I could gush about how well crafted this show is for hours but I think you've already done if for me. I'll pretend Multiverse of Madness doesn't exist with you.
"What is grief, but love persevering?" gets me so choked up. This show was so beautiful.
Despite its shortcomings theirs something genuine about the grief Wanda goes through. I really connected when she saw the remains of Vision and said he's gone. Sort of like when we go to a funeral we saw our loved ones their in a casket. They look pristine yet their physical presence really sets the finality of it.
there’s such a jump emotionally from wandavision’s “did a bad thing but realized she was hurting people and gave up her husband and children for the greater good” wanda and multiverse of maddness’ “actually fuck it i’m gonna kill so many people” wanda. like i get that the dark hold corrupted her but it’s such a jump and it’s so jarring
it’s soooooooo dumb bc it COULDVE worked. if they put 30 min of actual thought into it
And all that growth undone for MoM… the way we got cheated the way we got scammed
i simply don’t perceive it
Ehh, I’d argue it got undone the second she brainwashed Agatha at the end of the series. She really just went “I learned nothing”.
Fair enough; I guess one could be like “now Wanda is obsessed with family even more.” I just thought she would pursue that goal subtly instead of being a multiversal villain, and practice dark arts on the side. If her problem involved her being a villainous human (like striking up a relationship that becomes self-destructive) would work. Instead she’s a villain for Doctor Strange’s growth.
@@ma.2089 Why? Agatha had just tried to take her powers and possibly tried to kill Wanda too (we still don't know what she was going to do to Wanda when she thought she had absorbed all her power) I agree Wanda putting her under a mind spell was harsh, but it's not like Agatha was a saint
@@iantaakalla8180 She wasn't even attempting to pursue the goal of a new family, she read the book to learn more about herself then the book began corrupting her and turned her into a psycho. She didn't even know the book could show her the multiverse so how would she have known she could use it to find alternative kids?
Wanda Vision was also one my absolute favourite marvel projects and my favourite Marvel show. It did everything I love in storytelling and made it even better.
WandaVision is such an important piece of media to me. I’ve always been able to relate to Wanda as I’m no stranger to trauma and loss myself. The way she soothes herself by watching sitcoms is utterly familiar to me, as I’m sure it is to many of us watching this video. We all have that one song, show, film, play, album that got us through something rough and serves as a sort of safe haven. That’s the power of art and I love that this show used it to its fullest potential. Even the way she is described later on as using chaos magic should ring a bell to actual practitioners of chaos magick as that is all about manifesting your own reality through small changes, so the fact that she is now a full-blown reality-warper is incredible. The underlying message of creating your own path, finding your own identity and letting art guide you through it is incredibly profound to me. This show was one of the first times I truly felt seen. Thank you for making this video and making me feel seen all over again.
I always think it's so ironic that Community and Love Island were the shows that saved my life.
I wish it had been WandaVision lmao how embarrassing
This is such a beautiful comment. This really resonated with me, thank you for that.
I will never understand how so many people don't seem to get Wandavision. They either somehow absolve Wanda of all that she's done and think she was redeemed by the end because she... stopped mentally and physically enslaving an entire town? Or they believe she's completely evil and that there's nothing that could humanise her.
And while I think the show could have done a bit better in their wording with Monica being the mouthpiece of the town towards the end, the show very deliberately does NOT absolve her of her sins, or condemn her completely for them. It just shows the very messy, human parts of her.
It's absolutely far and away the best thing to have come out of the MCU.
I believe the town incident will appear in future MCU. It is a good start for X-men and the hatred towards mutants.
Exactly. It's complex and nuanced and messy and that's what makes it great
Fun Fact: Elizabeth Olsen herself said that Wanda has hints of character REGRESSION in Multiverse of Madness because MoM and Wandavision were being made around the same time and the writers of both didn't really talk to each other at all. WandaVision's second part of the season was also still being worked on when its first episode came out. All that is to say WandaVision has arguably the most heart put into it out of any phase 4 project aside from NWH and I can say the fanbases expectations were far too high. It was a character exploration and the Pietro/Evan Peters thing was to pay tribute to both iterations of the character and not an ultimate move to bring them back due to the multiverse. Think about it, WandaVision was pitched and put together in the writers room years before we knew phase 4 would be the start of the Multiverse Saga. My only real concern with the show is that the original final episode got cut and it would've tied up more lose ends in a better way.
Loki, No Way Home and WandaVision are my favourite phase four things. However, I pretty like MoM and it leaves me kind of torn apart... because of Wanda's arc of course. Further more I really like Sam Raimi and Michael Waldron who was the head writer of Loki series and I freaking love the show.
I just know if they had done the same to Loki what they did to Wanda, Iď probably never forgive them. He is my most beloved MCU character.
I just wish they found a way to keep Wanda's pacifism in MoM while making her the villain. That's really the core of her character. She is a loving woman who stands for what is right, even if it means sacrificing what she loves for the greater good. She may want to get to her children, but she wouldn't deliberately murder people.
Saying that the Darkhold was corrupting her means it should be the antagonist. But that wasn't it. Wanda was.
I love the part where she went inside the mind of that one wizard to force everyone to drop their shield. But instead of blasting them off, she decides to finally teleport inside the barrier. From here, she goes close combat and immoblizes sorcerers, temporarily bind them from using magic, and forcing them to sleep. She destroys incoming cannonballs and arrows and ultimately builds her hex to allow her to walk into kamar taj without oppositions. She also escapes the mirror dimension easily. Now she finally speaks with Strange and explains that she's found a reality where her sons have lost their mother and are in trouble. She reassures that she only needs Chavez to transport her to that specific universe. America apologizes as she can't control her power. All of a sudden, Wanda appears from behind her and forces everybody away as she begins to control her mind and create a portal to that world. Strange tries to stop as she must not jump into that universe since it will break the multiverse. Wanda only smiles as she will only do this reality a service and pave a new destiny for the Scarlet Witch, one that will not destroy it. Instead, she will finally go to one that needs a mother who will care for her children. She successfully jumps into the Earth-838. She is the first reality jumper with one version of her transporting to one where another lives (America is the only Chavez in all of the multiverse). This begins to threaten the entire multiverse. Strange and Kamar-taj are experiencing it.
Now, Strange's goal is bringing back Wanda to Earth-616 while Wanda stopping him from taking her back. Apparently, the ones who killed that universe's Wanda were the Illuminati, so she'll have face them as well.
I think this version is less murderous and more like what Wanda would do?
Bruh she's a villain most the time in the comics
@@h4rdi7g3 they can make her a villain and keep her character. Wanda proves in WandaVision that she is the type of person who does not want to hurt people even if it means sacrificing the people she loves, as much as it hurts her. She's learning more about herself and her powers so she won't accidentally hurt others. I'm sure there is a way Wanda can be a villain while not having to hurt and kill anyone... I just can't think of anything.
@@h4rdi7g3 not really tbh, like i haven't made the pie chart but as far as I know Wanda's been a hero by far more time, even including House of M which...can we even put that on her when quicksilver was mostly at fault?
Darkhold did corrupt her. Darkhold is known to corrupt people. In comics reading even a little bit of it, it basically changes their whole personality while this one just tricks them into giving them what they want. Wanda did snap out of it by her own kids.
@@h4rdi7g3 Not true. People need to stop using her only version which is the house of M where she basically lost everyone got manipulated then brainwashed and manipulated again. And somehow people cant seem to realize that she fixed it afterwards. What about the comic where she saved everyone from the Darkhold creator(i dont remember his name Cthon?)? Not only that in others comics she appears as a hero.
Yes, this remains my favorite marvel show.
Certainly my favorite of the D+ shows.
In all of Wanda's story, I will always miss that they never gave her and Tony any scenes together to resolve their issues. They impacted each other and the world in impossibly profound ways - Tony's name was on that missile which lead to her joining Hydra, which lead to her getting powers and zapping Tony, which lead to him creating Ultron, which lead to Sokovia being destroyed and her brother's death, which coupled with Wanda's Lagos accident, lead to the Sokovia Accords that Tony backed out of guilt for creating Ultron which lead to Civil War where Wanda was incarcerated and then went on the run and falling in love with Vision who wouldn't have existed if not for Tony creating Ultron (again, that he only did because of Wanda).... really, the feedback loop between Tony and Wanda impacted the MCU more than any conflict between Tony and Steve.
this is such an interesting way to look at this omg
I think fundamentally filmmakers and TV writers are in such a hurry to get where they're going that they forget to slow down and tell a human story. So when someone actually makes that time to slow down and have a human experience with their characters, it resonates with the audience. I wish this was something more writers would take to heart.
Also, loved your nod to Catra with the bit about "familiar equals safe."
WandaVision has been my favorite MCU project since it came out. Initially it was because of my love of old sitcoms, because of course I was raised on Nick at Nite. So yeah, the nostalgia reeled me in. But the heart of it is what won me over.
As someone who got into the MCU during the pandemic, Wandavision was the 1st MCU project I watched with the full knowledge of the mcu and it's what solidified me as a fan. Wanda is my favorite character and seeing where she goes is a lot of why I am continuing to watch. She was grieving the loss of Vision and her brother while I had just lost my father. The show came at the right time for me and was the escape i needed. TV show format allows for amazing character work that movies can never do more often the not.
Tbh, I’ve always liked Wanda and Vision, even before the show. The performances of and chemistry between the actors was strong enough that i was invested in them despite how little screen time they got. I was so happy that wandavision was everything I felt these characters deserved and more. I really hope their stories get to continue in a satisfying way
Same.
Part of me wishes they would make Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (and maybe Runaways) canon just so they can better explain that Wanda didn't just go crazy out of nowhere. They literally established that the Darkhold corrupts anyone who reads/uses it. Of course, I also thought the end credits scene of WandaVision was going to connect somehow to what was going on with Wenwu and the Dweller In Darkness in Shang-Chi, so what do I know?
Why do people assume detractors of that cinematic abortion “don’t get” that the Darkhold was making her evil?! We get it… and it’s dumb. Just because it is written as a reason does not make for good storytelling.
Let me try and give you an example. Let’s take a generic James Bond scenario. Dr. No-Finger has removed the Boron control rods from a nuclear reactor, and it’s going to explode. Tied to the top of the reactor is Bond’s long-lost mother, thought dead for all these years. He has a way to stop the meltdown, but it would kill his mother in the process. He has an idea, it’s a long shot but if he pulls it off he can….
…then James Bond has a fatigue spell, and has to sit down. His head is cloudy, and there are specks of blood on his breath. See, with all the passionate lovemaking with strangers over the years, 007 caught a mutant strain of syphillis. We’re going to ignore the nuclear meltdown and lost family, and follow James on his new quest of going to the doctor to get a round of antibiotics.
Does it work, as a series of events that can plausibly occur? Yes. Does it make for good storytelling? NO!!! The same goes for the entire “oh, but it’s the Darkhold that made Wanda evil, so MoM is a great movie” b.s.
@@davidmcleod5133 Never claimed MoM was a great movie. In fact, I think AoS did a much better job exploring the themes of both corruption and alternate realities in their 4th season, which also featured the Darkhold. MoM just had a bigger special effects budget, while AoS could barely afford to have Ghost Rider guest-star.
Agents of SHIELD started out 100% canon, it just gradually became... definitely not canon, and then they blew the Earth in half in S5 and then you knew it would stay non-canon. I'd love to see Chloe Bennet's Quake make a proper MCU debut, but they'd basically have to soft reboot her character in order to justify her presence. It bums me out that they eventually gave up the crossover arcs with the movies.
Okay, I’m glad you brought up Agents of Shield. Honestly, my love of AOS is the only thing that brought DOWN WandaVision for me (although I overall liked it). The problem is that many of the elements we saw in WandaVision had already been done by Agents of Shield - and with more time to shine there.
1)We already saw different eras and fun time-appropriate clothing for our characters in season 7. Many of those episodes were similarly done in a stylized way to fit each aesthetic.
2)We had the Darkhold slowly and mysteriously corrupting people with nice build-up and drama in season 4. In fact, I found the Darkhold to be a lot scarier in AOS, including how it changed its form to fit the reader (even Aida). When they revealed the book that Agatha was reading, it was all bad cgi and weird scribbling with a random picture of a feminine form…. We can argue that the Darkhold took that shape for Agatha specifically or we can make our peace with it being a different book due to the different timelines, but either way -I couldn’t take it seriously. It looked cheap and I didn’t feel the same overall dread as I did when they built up its effect through storytelling in AOS.
3)We had a place where reality is warped to resolve deep character regrets within the Framework part of AOS season 4. Literally…. also because of the Darkhold.
4)We had confused characters struggling to remember their true reality and escape, also in AOS season 4.
5)We had Mack raising his only child inside of the simulation, who is not alive in the real world. We see him trying to stay with his daughter, despite it being a fake reality, just to lose her anyway. I didn’t feel as bad for Wanda when she lost her children as I did for Mack, as awful as that sounds. Maybe just because we had spent more time with Mack over the span of his series? Or because his daughter was realizing she wasn’t real at the very end?
The theme of our characters trying desperately to bring back someone they lost (consequences be damned) is also prevalent (although less pointedly) in Daisy’s actions towards LMD Phil, Radcliffe’s toward Agnes, and Jemma’s later seasons searching for Fitz.
6)Lastly, AOS had multiple instances of characters we like becoming the villain to serve a sympathetic goal. I mean, AOS wasn’t perfect by any means, but it was a great time and I SAW all this already.
So…at the end of WandaVision, I was bored. It had beautiful acting. Lovely aesthetic and better production. The moments touching on Wanda’s grief were also amazing. But either no one on the staff watched Agents of Shield and they thought they were doing something new….. or they just blatantly ripped off of it. In which case, they should have tried harder to elevate the plot points that were the same into something much more poignant than Shield and I don’t think they did. It’s such a weird vibe when both projects take place in the same multiverse, made by the same company. And, yeah: I do much prefer WandaVision to MoM.
AOS is such an amazing series. I need more people to watch it!
It still baffles me that this wasn’t planned to be the first MCU tv show. I can’t imagine a more perfect way to break in to the small screen
The only reason why I think it shouldn't have been the MCU's first TV show is that it set the standard so high that none of the other MCU TV shows could live up to its first project. I agree that it's a great way to break into the small screen, but at the same time it has led to just being disappointed in the shows that followed.
For some reason, Wanda _GREATLY_ reminds me of Catra from _She-Ra._ Please tell me I'm not the only one who notices at least _some_ similarities between the two.
They dress the same, too.
I can see where you're coming from. They're both gray characters who are traumatized and go on to do bad things due to their trauma. We understand as audience members that trauma isn't a free pass to hurt others, but like it's said, "hurt people, hurt people". Well done gray characters are relatable because we ourselves are gray people. We understand but don't condone their actions; we see ourselves in them and want to see them (and by extension, ourselves) succeed. As for the similarities, I'd say it's their shared "loss" in their loved one that causes them to hurt those around them, intentionally or not. They also lack a certain amount of agency in their own lives: Catra's every waking moment being dictated by Shadow Weaver and Hordak; and Wanda being at the mercy of scientists and the Avengers/World ending events. Ultimately, having absolute power in both cases doesn't solve their grief: Catra being in charge of The Horde doesn't bring Adora back and Wanda's powers can't truly bring Vision back, at least not without keeping the entire town hostage and in incredible pain. As similar as they seem, I'd say they're similar the same way that two superhero movies are similar in that they're both genres of characters/stories rather than genuinely similar characters. Catra's journey (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm still murky on her character arc) is about understanding that Adora didn't abandon *her* but the cause (and Adora has to meet her halfway by realizing that being The Hero all the time is toxic), and Wanda's journey is accepting the death of her spouse.
@sdsanz92 _Damn_ you're better at this than I am!! 😂. Also, I'd say that another part of Catra's character arc is that whether or not she was abused and misguided/mistreated by Shadow Weaver and Hordak, she _also_ has to learn that the bad actions that she _does_ take and make throughout the series _are her own._ She _chose_ to make Adora her own enemy and actively work against her simply because Adora made new friends in Bow and Glimmer and Adora was 'naive' for not realizing that The Horde was evil beforehand;she _chose_ to physically and mentally essentially torture and abuse both Adora _and_ her friends, many, _many_ times;she _chose_ to betray Entrapta and send her to Beast Island, whilst also deliberately lying to Hordak about it, telling him that she'd simply 'betrayed' Hordak;and she actively _chose_ to open up that portal which basically nearly _killed_ Adora and the rest of the Princesses of the Princess Alliance, and also nearly _destroyed the world and all of reality right along with it._ So, yeah. Catra's reasons for her actions _may_ be understandable, but they, along with her actions regarding all those reasons, are _certainly NOT_ justifiable at all, _or excusable._ She _basically_ committed an absolute _SHIT-TON_ of fucking _war crimes,_ making her a veritable Stage 5 Class war criminal, in my books, at least. And keep in mind, this is coming from someone like _me,_ a self-proclaimed and self-professed Catra _stan._ :P.
@@DillonExner exactly the same i might add HDDJFSCH. and their shapeshifting partners are valued by the universe as “tools” rather than people 🥴
Yess absolutely
There are actually not enough words to describe how special WandaVision is, watching this video and listening to your insights I nearly started crying again. The psychological and emotional depth with which it touched sooo many of us, the pure love that it contains.
(Disagree though on how the MCU “lacked” character depth, the incredible thing about the MCU always was they put character first- this show only did it on a whole new much higher level. MoM though truly is one of the worst things ever.)
didn’t lack it, but could’ve done better :)
WandaVision and Black Widow have impacted me the most (along with CA:TWS and Endgame) and I still hold them dear to my heart. Both of their journeys hit me so hard and it always drives me to tears. Wanda and Natasha characters are so driven by their past and present choices, as well as their traumatic pasts, and the way they deal with them are very different. They are still impacting me today.
wanda vision needs more hype it rly was exceptional. hands down the best marvel project to date. you can “like” a different movie more but objectively this story goes so much deeper than any other project has
I was always invested in Wanda. She's one of the few Marvel characters that I actually knew stuff about from the comics. While I liked the creativity of her powers displayed in MoM, I felt that movie did such a disservice to her character journey.
I think one my pet peeves with the MCU is that they strict about plot interconnectivity but loose with characterization connectivity. It's why Thor always resets every single movie. It's why Bruce/Hulk is just a joke machine and never really got a chance to explore his struggle beyond surface-level.
WandaVision proved to the MCU that you could have deep, meaningful character work and water cooler moments. It's stuck with me and I haven't been able to watch other MCU shows.
I loved Loki. Falcon & the Winter Soldier was very mixed and messy but still enjoyable. I didn't finish Hawkeye. Every MCU show afterwards just feels like diminishing returns. I can't bring myself to spend anymore time on these shows.
This show is, legitimately, a masterpiece.
isn’t it just
I don't think I have ever felt (or will ever feel) as emotionally connected to a piece of media as WandaVision. As you perfectly describe, what makes WandaVision so special and unique in the MCU is that it is a deeply human story. It doesn't shy away from, or make light of, the pain that Wanda has been through. Her journey in the show is something we can all on some level relate too. When it came out in 2021 I was battling with my own depression and grief after losing a loved one to cancer in June 2020. I didn't know how to move forward. Like Wanda I often took comfort in my favourite movies and tv shows, watching them over and over because I knew the endings, they were familiar and safe. WandaVision really made me confront my grief and begin to process it episode by episode with Wanda. I wish that in the midst of writing the action scenes and quippy lines, more writers would remember the importance of emotional depth and human characters.
As cool as it may be to watch the Avengers save the world, it was WandaVision that saved me.
"Everything is Grey"
Omg love the Halsey reference!!! Also just love the video, Wandavision has been such a comfort show especially when I'm grieving and Wanda has always been such a comfort character for me since her first appearance in the Captain America end credit scene. Her character assassination was truly despicable. Thank you so much for the video! Truly is so beautiful!
This was the first MCU project I ever watched. My mom heard about it because it used sitcom tropes and we wanted to see what shows we could point out (my family has always been really big on sitcoms). Wandavision will always have a special place in my heart as not only my first MCU project, but definitely my favourite!
What they did to Wanda in MoM, made me so upset that I’m now writing my own version of her. I’ve never written before but man, I feel that even I can write a better character that was she was in MoM. So that’s what I’m going to do.
Wandavision has a special place in my heart. It came at the perfect time and I doubt Marvel could ever top it.
I just want to say that you show so much passion and intellect in all your videos.
I love your cadence it’s very relaxing
Apart from Peter Tony and Steve, the only other character I was extremely invested in when I started this was Wanda. When Infinity War premired, we could see her in a different angle it was an adjustment, but I loved it. Her moment against Thanos had me rooting for her. I became super invested in her afterward. So when it was announced she would be the first to get a TV series, I was super excited. This show is a unique creation that is far different than what the mcu has produced before seeing the characterization of wanda and vision. It was beautiful, and seeing her tragedy was a painful and sorrowful experience. This was her first chapter through the grief. I don't wanna linger on this too long either, but it's unfortunate when new writers don't expand on what the characters have done in previous stories, so then we get 180s like MoM. It saddens me deeply, but it just happens something similar happened with Thor after infinity war any character can be affected by this sadly. However, Wanda will forever be my favorite character alongside Tony. I'm still invested in her story. I want to see where she can go from here. Even if it only goes down, Wandavision will always remain special to me.
As someone who has lived through childhood, sexual and physical trauma, I carry those scars every day. When you said that her trauma doesn’t excuse her actions, you are right, they explain her actions. Until you get healthy, a traumatized person can be so destructive to themselves and others, without ever meeting to be.
I love this break down and analysis of Wanda. Too often the extremes of absolving her or demonizing her get played out in the discourse and I feel like this perfectly balances what the show aimed yet ultimately failed to convey. I still think, despite it's faults toward the end, that WandaVision is the best thing to come out of Phase 4.
Great video
I loved WandaVision, it's my favorite MCU project ever so it was so heartbreaking, dissapointing, confusing, frustrating and just annoying to watch Multiverse of Madness and see what they chose to do with her character. And the worst part is most people seem to think her behavior in MoM is perfectly consistent with her character, they always use the "she tortured an entire town" thing as a reason why it makes sense for her to suddenly start killing people, but they always leave out the nuance that made her create and maintain the hex in the first place. I actually think WandaVision was maybe too complex for most people to comprehend, it's such a layered story but all people saw was a crazy woman torturing people for fun. And another thing I hated was the complete absence of Vision, this is a woman who was so heartbroken about her loss of Vision that it unlocked an insanely powerful ability she didn't even know she had, then all of sudden she's over him and is instead focused on the kids? Her love for Vision literally opened up her reality warping abilities, how do you just get over a love that powerful? God I hate this movie so much, and the people who support it annoy the f*** out of me, they don't don't understand Wanda or WandaVision at all.
that’s what happens when you don’t watch previous source material! and also Don’t Care!
Wandavision is something that i always need to ready myself to rewatch
Counterpoint? The bones of MoM can NEVER be brutalized enough.
soooooo true
Truly such a great analogy and reflection of this cinematic masterpiece. This video alone helped me understand key reasons as to why I had such an affinity to this program and continue to due so. Thank you so much
This is all really well said.
I never cared for Wanda and Visions storyline in the movies and Wandavision became one of my favourite shows of all time. The show made me really fall in love with the characters and I rooted for them the entire time, I was heartbroken when Wanda has to say goodbye to Vision again. The sitcom aspect was so incredibly creative and engaging.
Time to rewatch for the 3rd time!
I knew this would be my favorite project from MCU since ep 1 and that still hasn’t changed
I adore your video. Bout to smash that subscribe button and I thought I'd chime in.
I loved WandaVision too. I think they dropped the ball a little with developing her character in MoM, but given all the busy-ness behind the scenes during development, I give the film a little pass.
My read on Wanda's story after she left Westview was that she had just left there with even MORE unresolved trauma. So despite the fact that she was able to thwart Agatha and SWORD, she still is on the run, has no support system, has had no meaningful therapy in healing from her traumas and has come into possession of a book that promises incredible powers and corrupts everyone who touches it - including a wounded and broken Scarlet Witch.
I LOVED everything about WandaVision. The characters, the plot, but especially HOW they made it. This made me want to get even more into filmmaking.
Wandavision is absolute peak marvel.
I am a huge fan of Buffy, and WV has a lot of similarities. A mysterious reality altering situation, like in one of the monster of the week episodes, trauma, emotions and how that mixes with power, relationships, and how those change character arcs etc. It has buffy season 6 vibes and I love it.
Not the first Marvel TV show... Agent Carter was. Awesome show. Wandavision is my favourite though, great essay, you did her justice.
Agents of SHIELD says “Hi.”
She’s obviously saying it was the first canon MCU show
@@Breadstick624Games How is Agent Carter not canon, though? I don't think it contradicts any of the MCU. It's included in the chronological watch order on disney+. She didn't specify canon, so my point was, Wandavision wasn't the first, as it wasn't the first. Sometimes, a true thing can just be a true thing.
@@meganb4432 and my point was no one likes a know it all. There’s a big difference between the Disney+ shows and the marvel shows before
I enjoyed Mask of Madness after I left the theater but overtime I quickly soured on it. This video reminds me how angry I am over that movie.
The key reason is that the MoM team admitted they didn't actually watch Wandavision, they only verified basic details. For a movie franchise that was built on the idea of building up on established prior works MoM was a huge disservice to us fans watching this content and the main characters Wanda and Vision and even their kids.
They wasted 3 characters and didn't know how to incorporate another.
@Mmm Oops. I played too much dota that week.
They literally had all the scripts in front of them and understood what the show was about. What more do you want? Plus the last scene of WandaVision really hammers down the direction Wanda’s character was always going to go. At the very least in MoM not only she’s facing the consequenses of her actions in WandaVision to some extent, which was a major critisisim there but she’s finally having agency over her actions rather than being either manipulated, controlled or possessed.
@@Roaches591 What does it matter if she was originally or not the villain? MoM makes her realistically make another push to have what she desire because of how things ended in WandaVision. This also made her the perfect foil to Strange bcuz both characters have a toxic relationship with control, which is rooted in the fear of failure. Strange bcuz he couldn’t control to what happened with his sister, Wanda bcuz she couldn’t save Vision or her family. They both have to learn that they can’t control everything to conquer their fears.
Also I doubt that Wanda becoming villain in a future Avenger’s movie would have been better because it could've lead to an even worse version of House of M and/or Avengers Disassembled (which are some of the worst comics for Wanda in terms of her characterization) and Marvel isn’t known for ‘’improving’’ on the source material with Phase 4 being the biggest example (Jane Foster’s storyline and She-Hulk for example)
@@Roaches591 Sorry I’m not doing the ‘’answer in one sentence’’ challenge lol. We literally saw her using the Darkhold at the end of WandaVision. Next we cut to back some time to MoM and we see it has influnced her. Simple! There is no need to see her actually getting the dark nails or whatever. Also your critisim makes no sense. If Wanda is supposed to embody humanity at it’s best and worse (like it’s said in the video), then it’s very realistic that she would try another push to have what she desires. People with addiction don’t just decide to stop taking or doing whatever it is that is addiciting them. They fail at least few times until they finally learn to let go of their addiction, which is exactly what Wanda’s arc is.
I remember when everyone was excited to see the next episode every week. I never saw that with any show that came after it
No mention of Wanda's & Catra's similar headgear, smh
Loved the vid
catra and wanda similar headgear. there you go!
Wandavision is GOATed. It came at such a perfect time in my life, yes everyone was dealing with COVID, but I had just lost my grandpa, when episode 08? Came out. I lost him, had a pre scheduled trip out of town for my now defunct video production company, and when Vision said ‘what is grief if not love preserving?’ I bawled my eyes out, I was watching with a friend too so it was a bit embarrassing but damn.
PLEASE THIS VIDEO IS LITERALLY GOING TO MAKE ME CRY AT WORK LIKE YOU KEEP SAYING A SENTENCE AND I BREAK AND CHOKE OH MY GOD
I didn't mind MoM. We got a deeper dive with Wanda in the show and see her awesome power on display in MoM. 🤷🏼♂️
Honestly, I never liked Wanda...until WandaVision. Growing up, TV was my life line. I didn't have many friends, but I always had TV. I watched a ridiculous amount of sitcoms and getting to see the love letter to TV sitcoms that is WandaVision AND it had a point!? *chef kiss* perfection.
Exceptional Video and absolutely agree with everything poured into this video about why WANDAVISION Supremacy is Alive & Well….
I so appreciate all the attention to detail and all the hard work put into making this analysis!!!
Such a Great Presentation!
Highly recommend you watch if you are a fan of WANDA, WandaVision!
Thank YOU!
One thing however (and mostly stemming from reading the comments under the TH-cam video!) that people forget about MOM…is that during the emotional/character/story arch climax…of the film…
(***SPOILERS AHEAD*** : don’t read further, if you’ve never watched “WANDAVISION” or “Dr. Strange 2 & Multiverse of Madness” or any of the rest of her story arch, within the Greater MCU!!!)
Towards the final moments…
We were given/shown SUCH a powerful scene,
when our Wanda/Scarlet Witch sees the terror in her children’s faces when they see her…and what’s she’s done…
She realizes how far gone she’s allowed herself to be…or how irreversibly damaged her psyche truly is…
In that tragic moment she truly understands and repents for the MONSTER she’s become
& is depicted as remorseful, repentant …shaped back into a more humanized version of herself, in those last few key moments…falling to her knees…crying inconsolably…
This COSMICALLY POWERFUL ULTRA SUPER MEGA WITCH…SUPERHERO…Avenger…turned Villain…reduced and regressed to the “inner wounded child” who has amassed more trauma, than most could barely fathom and likely never will…
There she was…exposed and at her most vulnerable…the pain of her destructive ways…finally knocking sense into her lost self…
The scene where Earth 838 Wanda & Earth 616 Scarlet Witch…interact…in front of that gazebo window…was done so poetically , masterfully & effectively…
The nuances of it kinda flew over most peoples’ heads, I think…they must have!!!
Wanda from 838 showed *Mercy* to Scarlet Witch 616, standing upright in front of her & extending her arm…while the latter was still kneeling in despair and remorse…crying…
The symbolism
Of that was POIGNANT and hit me hard!!!
It felt very Jesus/Biblical to me!!!
The Fallen & The Ascended…
Light & Dark…all within US,
embodied in different aspects of our multi-dimensional self!
Both of them, as ONE…coming together to each other’s aid…
In that moment 838 Wanda reassures 616 Scarlet Witch that…it’s OK…
”Know that the kids will be loved”…
That mutual LOVE for their children …no matter from what reality they came from or ended up in…as a common denominator and shared aspect
about how above all else…they are both MOTHERS…who love their kids to death…who would do anything to be with them & reunite with them and also protect them…
…both Wandas understanding the subtleties & internal processes of that kinda motherly love and sacred bond…
…the way only a Mother can see and understand another Mother…like that…
(no matter how MAD, hurt or blond one might have become, on this conquest!)
in this case…HER OWN SELF…just from two different polar opposite perspectives…witnessing & empathizing…accepting & integrating…
and how that kinda subtle resonance between them, in those moments…was recognized/acknowledged by both Wandas…so beautifully…
(Both played exceptionally by Elizabeth Olsen!)
Kinda created a cosmically UNIFYING, Omnipotent/Omnipresent moment for me…(even in Real Life…) in their simultaneous depiction…
where both timelines/both Wanda’s shifted for the better and healed by helping one another…remember!!!
Coming to realize that ultimately they are the SAME ONE SOUL/Spirit in different earths/parallel dimensions/timelines/Universes!!!!
The Compassion & Mercy shown to her, by a version of herself…was what took for our 616 Wanda…to feel strong enough, to make things right again
by destroying the Darkhold (which corrupted her!) and possibly choosing to kill herself…so as to be absolved of her sins, entirely…and thus to be reborn…
or at least surrender fully to the other aspects/versions of herself…who are faring much better/happier/healthier than her…within the Multiverse!!!
The Selflessness and Surrender in that…juxtaposing the extreme selfishness & forceful control, that came earlier in the film…was just WOW!!!
Moreover, 838 Wanda also realized that what happened to 616 Scarlet Witch could very well, have easily happened to her too…if her children were also taken away from her…
No one else could afford to grant her that kinda Grace…& Compassion, that was needed…
and even if someone else did…
most likely, it wouldn’t be to the same/equal effect!!!
It had to have come from EACH OTHER…meaning from within our/her multi-dimensional self!!!
Higher & Lower…
Light & Dark…
meeting halfway to bring WHOLENESS!!!
Which in and of itself is so profoundly layered and just again WOW…for me…in a superhero film like that…
those 2 moments redeemed the quick and rushed Descent into Madness, for Wanda in MOM, for me…which yes, rubbed a lot of WandaVision fans off the wrong way!!!
Dare I say, however…that personally,
I found the DIVINE SACRED PRIESTESS RAGE coming from her, earlier in the film, going all batshit crazy & being consumed by her Darkness…was delightfully dangerous & darkly delicious!!!
And also frankly…extremely relatable!
I’ve been there!!!
Anyone who has gone through massive trauma and has snapped …found the courage to play with their own demons…understands the lure of that kinda intoxicating power!!!
It happens outta nowhere!!!
Unintentionally, no matter how well one meant…initially…
It’s addictive…and implosive/self harming…yet highly destructive for everyone else around, all at once…!!!
Basically, my point being…
Wanda in MOM wasn’t as bad or as lacking as people make it out to be…
Could there be more “on screen”…DarkHold-Corruption and harrowing descent into Madness, depicted for Wanda???
Absolutely!
Did we get enough key, story elements to go off of…???
100% we did!
I think!
Most likely, we were all just thrown off and butthurt that she was the “plus one”, in Dr. Strange’s film…instead of THE HEADLINER of her own film…
cuz we y’all know we were ALL…SO ready for that, after WandaVision!
Which Marvel/the MCU can certainly course correct & fix that, in the future!!! Hopefully! 😊🤞🏼
“What is Grief?…if not LOVE, persevering?”
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Amazing Video! I’ve always loved Wanda. I actually first really got to know her from the comics The Young Avengers. And she’s not even in that. Those are about her sons Billy and Tommy (and other Avengers’s kids). But because I love Billy so much Wanda is always right there as well.
So glad i found this video! Ive been a very committed fan of this marvel series amidst all of them and felt this one held up the strongest in retrospect. Glad to see others enjoy it still as well!
Oh I’m crying about this show again 😭 I’ve loved Wanda since she was introduced into the MCU and this show stole my heart!!!!!
"Im not here to unearth horse bone for further brutalization." Great phrasing. 16:26
I adore your take on all this. I loved the show, too. How it took us through her mind.
so glad someone enjoyed that
i remember watching the bee keeper come out and being shocked by the sheer lynch-ianess of that moment. I honestly wished they had leaned into more twin peaks vibes (provided of course they didn't sacrifice elements of the amazing character study).
that shit and the sobering “no.” were such a stomach drop vibe for me
Oh man. This show broke my heart. The finale, which I saw coming, still gutted me. Also I just lost my cat and was 7 months pregnant so I was WEEPING.
I think I'm incapable of getting through one of your videos without openly crying
now I’m thinking of the whole industry, for being a show it’s something I have never thought someone could pull in such a creative and powerful way. Wandavision will be the one project that literally changed my thoughts about marvel and their potential of doing something creative and fun but just fantastic.
When I was introduced to Wanda by MCU, I immediately knew she's gonna be my comfort character. My heart goes out to her and I can totally relate to her grief as I have been through it too. The trauma she had is no stranger to me. In a way, watching MCU projects has been my own version of Wanda's sitcoms. It's my own healing and my own way of leaving reality to escape from my problems even just for a little while. WandaVisionwill always have the same impact on me even if i watch it for the nth time. Watching this in depth video about the series, it made me love WandaVision more.
yes yes yes. thanks for making my mind go back and remember how great Wandavision is and why i loved it so much
I’ve never been a Marvel fan. I still don’t think I ever will be, but I loved this show. I’m so glad I gave it a chance when I did. Character studies are some of my favorite pieces of media, and I think that’s exactly why I dislike marvel and why I love this show. That being said, me disliking marvel is just another addition to why this show is so good. I didn’t catch the references, I didn’t know the backstory. But I still got connected to this character. I didn’t need tons of movies to *know* Wanda. All I needed was this one show.
Can I just say that this was the best essay or essay video on anything I have ever seen. I have seen wandavision so many times again and again and yet somehow you still manage to show me things I didn't notice before
Thank you for this video and The Perfect Cruelty of the Hunger Games
What an insanely well-articulated and heartfelt retrospective on the meta masterpiece that is WandaVision!! I am so grateful that there are people on this planet who can recognise and relate to the depth of this show and Wanda as a character in the same way that I do.
As someone who has become very introverted, dissociative and passive to cope with and heal from my personal trauma, thinking of myself as a witch just like Wanda brings me more comfort than anything else in the world. This video perfectly expresses how this show made me feel ever since that second trailer dropped and what WandaVision continues to mean for me 💝
I also actually just binged the entirety of WandaVision today with a reluctant friend who hadn't seen it before...
P.S. They were also "surprised" by how profound an experience it turned out to be despite being an MCU project 😊
Well you just persuaded me to go give WV a look.
I have basically given up on the MCU but your heartfelt description makes me want to try WV
pretend you heard no spoilers
WV and Moon Knight are prob some of the best MCU has produced. I recommend those. There’s other stuff, but if you want some more info on MK, I recommend checking out Cinema Therapy’s vid on it
Hard to believe it’s been almost two years since Wandavision debuted on Disney+. Phase 4 is now over and I agree that Wandavision is still the best show with MoM being one of the worst MCU movies. Can’t wait to see Wanda and Vision’s story continue with Wandavision quality. Thank you for this video.
I love this review. I had only seen Black Panther , the ant man movies and the guardians of the galaxy movies. Not really knowing that they were apart of a larger narrative. I just so happened to watch Wanda Vision during the pandemic and I was so blown away and so confused lol. I literally went back and watch every single marvel project (excluding the Netflix and CW shows ) just for the Scarlet Witch. She’s one of my favorite character arcs of any anti hero
While it is true that we can get very dissapointed with what we received in MoM with Wanda, another thing you've said that is entirely true is that, 'Wanda dind't fully healed after everything in WandaVision', so somewhat is understandable that she would become mad after reading at least one page of the darkhold, however it is also confusing because they dind't even gave us time to see her slowly becoming mad and having her thoughts deformed if they wanted to make her the villain so much. It felt rushed and even forced without having any type of explanation; the only one being the post credit scene in WV.
MoM has a LOT of failures and incosistencies, however just like you stated, I also think it is the start for Wanda, so that's why I dind't give up on the character because she can still have depth on her if a good writer decides to take action about it. Like, I would love to see Wanda interacting with Peter. Two people who suffered a lot and went through pain as the years passed and could understand and relate to one another on maybe a film or series. It would be simply beautiful
So I'Il just wait for the day her redemption comes naturally and beautifully and not as something forced just because haters are hating in the character now. I'm sure the Scarlet Witch's story just begun and we still have many things to see from her from now on.
This was so SO beautifully made, it mirrors the impact of the show. I cried because of your analysis, and then the end (you're evil for including that bit). I hope you're proud of this
It's defenitly the MCU project that hit me the most , after Dr strange mom i lost hope for the MCU i felt so disappointed with the writing especially the way they ruined Wanda she and Peter Parker are the only living MCU characters i still cared for so after that movie I'm not invested in marvel anymore I entered phase 4 optimistic Wandavision rewarded my trust it wasn't perfect but it was the best the MCU had ever offered me , nwh reassured me too despite the other shows and movies being a disappointment but after multiverse of garbage i have lost hope in marvel but I'll still look back at Wandavision the one time marvel hit me on the deepest level emotionally and made me relate to a fictional character so much that it hurt
This was very well presented and exactly how I feel about Wandavision. It's 9am and I'm crying. Great video. I'm waiting for the MCU to hit me this hard again.
The return of the King!
This video was just beautiful, WandaVision is my favorite marvel piece too and your video perfectly explains why
A beautiful video showcasing everything I loved about the show, I agree that it is by far best thing Marvel ever did. It had some serious problems - It REALLY didnt need to end with double "fighting evil version of the hero" trope (If we absolutely need to have a fight, wouldnt it be more fun if Wanda fought Cataract and Vision fight Agatha? At least would mix it up a little) and entire Monica Rambeau subplot felt shoehorned in. Probably because how personal and intimate to Wanda specifically the story was. Monica had zero connection to her and felt really unneeded.
But again. this show was incredible and most human thing Ive seen from Marvel (GotG 2 was close at times I guess) Made me also appreciate how great actress Elizabeth Olsen is.
WandaVision was and is a masterpiece. Is the last jewel Marvel gave us.
I love WandaVision, there was so much character growth from Wanda, she was finally given time to grieve and accept that loss of Vision and of the future he wanted for them...
and then Multiverse of Madness threw it all out the window.
A really underrated marvel show that has been more or less forgotten about is Legion - whilst its not directly set in the MCU, it’s still a marvel show - and it incorporated elements that Wandavision and more has years before they do it, and it is amazing, fantastic characters and story alongside unique sci fi - would recommend if you haven’t already watched it.
This was beautifully written and edited! I have no words ❤
I got into the MCU when I was in college and I don't feel like I consciously chose it, but jumped on a bandwagon that still has me. And like you, I have a "your mileage may vary" on the emotional impact each MCU project makes.
Wandavision resonates with me the most emotionally because like Wanda, I loved watching TV and what you said about Buffy resonates with me as well. (Plus, hello! Emma Caulfield is in this show! She seriously needed more screentime.) I still have brainspace where I imagine Wanda basically being in Wicked with Monica being Glinda.
The only other MCU projects that gave me the most emotionally were Spider-Man Homecoming and Ms. Marvel. And I think it's because those films embraced the character-centric focus, Ms. Marvel even more so.
This video has been in my watch later since in came out, and i’ve finally watched the series and thus also this video. and man, you hit it out of the park every time.
Love your analysis! I too love WandaVision solely because it veered away from the usual MCU formula and showed us what a relatable character Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch really is. I really irritates me that so many are so quick to condemn her for succumbing to her losses and making mistakes as a result and comparing her to other heroes whose mistakes are a direct result of their own arrogance and even stupidity. While many of things Wanda has done are truly inexcusable, anyone quick to vilify her for not better handling her tragedies probably hasn't yet suffer a truly significant loss in their life yet. Well done!
I absolutely love your analysis and look forward to your videos! This video is great! Thank you for sharing and creating (:
There's hardly any Marvel movies that feel human. This one takes the cake
random, but i just really appreciate the captions in your videos. thank you!
“Unearth horse bones for further brutalization” I’m stealing that!
I’ve never actually hated a Marvel movie before MoM. I’ve felt ambivalent before, but I left that theatre seething over what they had done to Wanda!
WandaVision was a masterpiece…and then Micheal Waldron walked up to The Scarlet Witch and spat in her face with that disgrace of a movie called Multiverse of Madness and what it did to her.
She deserves so much better.
This was so well put together!!!
WandaVision is what got me into the MCU (i had seen some movies here and there but didn't really realize there was a larger story being told) and although I like most of Phase 4 (some personal favourites are The Eternals, Black Panther 2 and She-Hulk), nothing has come close to making me feel what WV did. It's not surprising but "What is grief if not love persevering?" hit me so hard, especially going thru real life grief while I was watching the show. I'm hyped for the upcoming lineup of projects but idk if any will hit the same as this show did!
For me it’s Netflix’s old daredevil and the punisher, those shows made you feel so deeply
Same! Favourite MCU project and the only I really fully care about (aside from Guardians 2 which hit very personal notes for me).
i'm sobbing you put this all so beautifully thank you so much