How to Navigate a Course on the Garmin Fenix 6 (or Forerunner 945, Fenix 5, Fenix 3, 3HR, etc...)
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Thank you for posting this! I was having SO MUCH TROUBLE figuring out how to actually find the course on my watch once I created it. there are so many videos about how to create a course, and this was the first one I could find that actually shows you the very crucial step 2: how to find the dang course on your device once you've created it, so THANK YOU!
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching!
Exactly what I needed to see. Your videos are pure gold. I'm a month into the Fenix 6X and zero regrets! What a machine. It was not easy to change as I was a Suunto man for years but all I hear is breakages and software issues. Garmin for the win. They should be sending you cheques.
Awesome! Glad to hear you're enjoying it! Ha! I wish Garmin would send me some $$$!
@@ChaseTheSummit or use whatever extra you generate to make Linux software, it's missed
After using the Fenix 3 for 4 years I bought a Fenix 6 Sapphire a week ago and I was still kinda searching how to use the watch when navigating a course. Your video was really helpful so many thanks for your tutorial 👍
Did you find the upgrade to maps worth the price?
Great insight and friendly vibes! You motivate me to go and run! You’ll be at 100K in no time! Keep up the good work, man! 🤙
Thanks so much! It means a lot!
This tutorial format was perfect and exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. (I see this video is three years old. It helped me today in Oct 2023.)
Thanks for explaining this step by step. A useful tutorial. I could not figure it out fumbling with my watch. (And I finally figured out what that tat was from the comments below-it was driving me nuts! Miles of smiles, amigo!
Glad it was helpful!
This is spot on to what I was looking for. Easy to follow step by step instructions, thank you so much!
Happy Running from Australia
Glad it was helpful!
This was a huge help, I've been sending courses to my watch but could never find them. Thank you!!!
Glad it helped!
Thanks man...well done! Just switched from 20+ years as a Suunto user with 3 different models...now on a Fenix 6 Pro. Love it so far, but haven't really put it through its paces in only 3 days. Going to try the upload course and navigate for a MTB ride later today...thanks!
I've just moved from Suunto to Garmin myself I'd be interested if you have managed to transfer your sunnto data to Garmin connect?I've heard using SportTrack and Tapiriik works.
Hey Dave,
This is huge! Thanks for commenting on another video I commented on and referring me to this. This seems super simple and I think I can export out my existing course from Garmin Connect as a .FIT.
Hope it helps! This took a while for me to figure out for my ultra races as well. Not sure why Garmin makes it so complicated!
I did not realize that the course needs to be saved as FIT instead of 'Send to Device' directly. And when I completed the course, there was no distance shown/saved! perhaps I did not get the signal before i started?!
the video tutorial is great!
@@moodytang5187 Yup, I saved it as a .FIT file and dropped it to my 945 through a PC. It was a bit more complicated than I would've liked bc I typically work on Macs. In the end, it worked. With this file, I knew exactly when the next aide station was coming up as I competed in the Pikes Peak marathon in 2021. I didn't need to know when a turn was coming up bc the course is well marked and simple, so the typical Garmin instructions were worthless. This helped me drop 25minutes over the previous year.
**If you ever decide to use a feature like this for a race, or even something like PacePro, always test it out EXTENSIVELY days or weeks before the event. That way it performs as you intend to use it and aren't distracted by unexpected oddities/alerts the watch throws at you**
I plan to use PacePro for CIM next year to run sub 2:18. I'll count on many sessions of trial and error in the through out the year leading up to the race so the feature works exactly the way I want it to. Thanks for all your reviews @ChasetheSummit
Thanks a lot, I've had my Forerunner for a year and a half and never knew about all this stuff!
Glad you found it helpful! It's become a lot easier to sync courses since I filmed this video. Almost all of it can be done right on your phone!
Thanks this was one of the best tutorials I've had from TH-cam
Glad it helped!
Thanks for that, helped me loads. Didn't realise I could do it that way
I honestly didn't know I could do this!!! Thanks, I'm making courses as we speak!
Glad I could help!
Chase the Summit I’m getting the Fenix 6 base model (no maps) presume this still all works fine just it won’t show the Topo maps on the watch and just shows direction to next waypoint on map? Pretty sure it will have the hill climb feature though correct?
Thanks for the helpful video. I've been under-using my 935 for 3 years!
Awesome!
Thanks for this mate. Managed to draw route, import to watch. Trying it tomorrow on my FR 255.
Your setup is cool. Your instructional video is cooler, and your new subscriber is the coolest.
Ha! Thanks!
Beautiful drone footage in the intro! I'm digging the tutorial style video 👍
Thanks!
I’m just now watching this video because I finally saved enough pennies to buy my Fenix! 😎 Thank you for the video, I really needed the help!
Nice! Hope you enjoy it!
Just the video explanation I was searching for. Love ultras. Hate poorly marked courses and dread having to figure out tech myself.
Thank you! I’m excited to use the feature.
Hope you like it!
Well done! Video resolution excellant, voice crisp and content to the point.
Your set up looks dope
Great video! I'm getting my Fenix 6 Sapphire in the mail next week for MTB tracks.
Great tips. Cheers!
Hope you enjoy it!
Well done, trying to set up my Fenix 3, thanks
Great tips here! I just got the Fenix 6 Pro, and it's blowing me away. There's a lot to learn about it though, and your videos help out a ton. I've written my own review of it on my blog, but your reviews and comparisons are so thorough that I just had to link them in my blog for readers to check out!
Hey Garrett! Thanks for the link! Whats your blog? Thanks for watching!
@@ChaseTheSummit themorningrun.home.blog/2019/12/31/garmin-fenix-6-pro-watch/ thanks for checking it out; that would help out a ton!
@@gsimongear Well done! great content there!
Really good video, very useful, just what I was looking for as am just learning the huge range of this Fenix 6X Pro... thanks a lot... seen a few of your other videos. Very well done
Thanks!
I found the tutorial very helpful. I have only had my Fenix 6 Saphire a couple of weeks and a lot of videos on TH-cam are often the basic stuff which are more or less similar to a lot of other videos. Tutorials are helpful because it encourages the user to get the full potential of having a feature rich sports watch. I think another good tutorial would be how to use swapping between screens while running or any other sport. As a new user it often becomes trial and error how to get to function as quick as posible, during a run preparing for a run or whatever sport the user is into
I'm glad you found it helpful!
Super helpful, didnt even know about the course map options available via web... I've been using the app! Thank you for that insight. I've got the 945 and watched that vid too.
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching!
Great video. It's strange that Garmin doesn't seem to provide this information themselves.
Love that you did your demo in the Middlesex Fells! I ran there for many years!!!
I love the fells!
Love the video and setup! Keep going brother💪
Thanks!
Wow this is exactly what I needed. I've been downloading routes from the OS app which can be great. But as you're relying on routes that someone else has set, sometimes they can take you way off course (which I found out the other day.
Very helpful video! Have the edge 830 and now learning my Fenix 6
Glad you found it helpful! The process has gotten a little easier since I filmed this but this still works!
@@ChaseTheSummit yep, it actually went pretty quick and was very smooth. ur video was still very helpful on the overall process. lovin the Fenix 6!
well done mister! ;) great content as always!
Thank you!
Fantastic help, great usable info! Many thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Perfect guide!
Cool studio and nice cap.. thank you for the video.. nice one 👍
This was exactly the video I needed. I am thinking about getting this watch, mainly for the navigation.
It's a good one for navigation!
@@ChaseTheSummit yeah, I watched some more video's in between and I think it will be a great option for me.
@@ChaseTheSummit Do you know if the 6S has the same navigation as the 6? Most important that I can import my own courses. I just found that model on sale ;-) so that would be nice.
Thanks for the super clear tutorial Dave, really helped me out a lot! Just subscribed and looking forward to more of these super helpful tutorial and reviews!
Quick question if you don't mind: is there a way to quickly look for and add courses (hiking/biking trails etc) on the watch itself, the same way you can look for navigation points like stores, etc?
You can create courses on the watch by choosing Navigation > Round Trip Courses > Select Distance > Select Direction. Hope that helps!
Thank you for this! It was very helpful! I’ll be trying it out at a trail race tomorrow.
Good luck! Happy to hear your race wasn't cancelled!
@@ChaseTheSummit thanks! It’s technically virtual this year, but they’re setting up the start/finish line and the clock for us. It will be a fun day in the woods!
@@fitnessonthemovellc that’s a clever way of doing it! Better than a treadmill!
Loved this video, thank you! Rookie question here- just starting to look at sports watches and specifically the 945/Fenix 6. With step by step navigation, is the watch verbally (calling out) the directions? I plan to use this for cycling also and it would be helpful to HEAR the directions versus looking down at the watch.
Glad it was helpful! The watch doesn't verbally speak to you. Instead if vibrates and beeps to indicate a turn is coming. I'm not sure how useful it would be in a cycling application unless it was mounted to your handlebars like an Edge bike computer.
Very helpful to decide wether to buy the watch or not. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
what a tutorial dude, thanx so much!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks :) I learned a couple new tricks. I personally like using the "Send to Device" button on Garmin Connect, and then syncing using the WIFI sync. I have setup a quick action sync button so I don't need to physically connect the phone to the computer. I have also turned off bluetooth sync to save battery life (I get 30 days watch mode and 60hrs gps mode without bluetooth).
Thanks for watching! "Send to Device" is MUCH easier to use. But as noted in the video it included turn-by-turn directions which buries my important course points so I prefer the USB method. I still use the phone method when I need to do something quickly though. Battery life has been great! Thanks again!
Thanks man. Really helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Legend mate, thanks
Super helpful video. Well explaned. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Very helpful. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Good effort, thanks for the lowdown
Nice work. Thanks a lot!
Thanks.. that was easy understand
Great tutorial, a big help.
Glad it helped!
Thanks for the vid. This is really useful info.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks a lot for your video. Now, I have learnt how to have fun with the courses and the climbpro function. 👍 I have seen the display background , which is the name of the app for to display the battery level? Thanks again
This is extremely helpful thank you. Do you know if the watch provides voice queues on when to turn during a course using Bluetooth headphones?
The watch doesn't provide audio prompts but I think there are apps on the app store that will do this.
Absolutely awesome. Thanks !
You're welcome!
Thx so much, this is really informative!
Glad it was helpful!
This is a very cool video. Keep it up.
Thanks for making this video, very clear! Today I came across the situation that I made shortcut during following the course and the watch (in my case 945) kept showing "off-course" and shortly after "on-course" for the rest of the bike ride. Is there a way to just skip this message and continue the course? Or there was something wrong with my GPS?
You could disable the "off course" alert in the settings if it bothers you. I don't think there's anything wrong with your GPS sometimes the course just isn't a perfect representation of the roads or trails that you're on. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching!
Nice all clear
Thanks was super helpful!
Glad it helped!
Thanks for the helpful video. I've been using the Fenix 6X Pro Sapphire for 9 months now, and it drives me nuts that the "Next Waypoint" and "Distance to Next" data elements never work. When I'm out hiking in the White Mountains, I often want to plot a waypoint on the summit of several mountains that I've doing as part of a plotted course. As you noted, the data elements for those custom waypoints get screwed up when transferring wirelessly from Garmin Connect. I will definitely give this FIT file option a try on the hike I have coming up this weekend. Thanks for the tip!
Yup! This was exactly my issue. Instead of showing the next actual waypoint it would indicate the next turn. White Mountains are also my stomping grounds! Thanks for watching!
I've watched so many of your videos and I only just found out that we live pretty close to each other! I love running The Fells, maybe I'll see you out there at some point :)
Awesome! I love the fells. I'm sure we'll pass by each other eventually! Thanks for watching.
Great video thanks. Wondering whether you have seen the "Race an Activity" feature? I'm trying to figure out how choosing this differs from simply starting an activity and selecting the course to run.
"Race an activity" is pretty cool. It basically puts the watch into "Virtual pacer" mode where it will show a white arrow on your map page that represents your time to beat. There will also be a data page that shoes how far behind/ahead you are in relation to your "virtual racing self". Hope that helps! Thanks for watching.
Awesome video Dave and thanks. I'm a bit late to the party but have just created a great 10 kayer to do with my son tomorrow and now it's on my 935, ready to go! Less likely to get lost on this one tomorrow (I took a wrong turn out there yesterday...). Cheers and thanks from Sydney - Dave (we have excellent names eh?)
Thanks! Hope you enjoy that 10K!
@@ChaseTheSummit Thanks mate. My 11yo son and I will get out there today - a great mix of quiet streets and trail - about 50/50. First day of Spring here in Sydney and a perfect one for a run. I'm still recovering from running a half marathon a couple of days ago - the run I got lost on! Thanks to you I'm confident of not being lost again - track is all loaded and ready to go on my 935. Love your work and cheers - Dave
Hi Mr CtS, Loved your vid, quite handy! Just one question: After saving a new course, what's the difference between Downloading the FIT file and the option/button Send to device? I've used the "send to device" option but the watch did not guide me. It showed the course on the map but while purposely steering away from the route, the wtatch didn't notify or alert me. (I got a F3). Cheers!
It's weird how this works. Basically if you use the "send to device" option it turns EVERY turn into a waypoint. So your "distance to next" data field will show the distance to the next turn. I didn't like this because I wanted to know the distance to the next actual waypoint. This is why I sync over USB. Hope that helps!
hey great explaination! Can you tell me if i need to make course for using climpro or can i just go hike without creating course and it will remembe from gps for next time? tnx keep up good work
Climb pro is enabled when you are following a course. It can be a course from Garmin Connect or one directly from the watch but it needs to know the lay of the land ahead of you. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching.
Very helpful. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Very useful and well produced... Again! Love the channel!
Thank you! Much appreciated!
TKS congrats help me a Lot. Im from Brazil
Welcome!
I just noticed your tattoo, it says "μου λειπεις" in Greek (my native language), "I miss you" in English. Happy New Year
You got it! Glad the translation was right. I don't speak the language and it could have gone terribly wrong. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video. Just bought a 6 Pro. Do you know how many data points would make up a 100 mile course file, and is there a way to maximise this and hence the accuracy of a long route? Have taken many wrong turns with Fenix 3 as a long winding course shows as a series of long straight lines.
If you build the course in Garmin Connect using the Training > Courses tool it will optimize the track to have the most resolution while limiting the data points as to not overload the watch. Courses can only have a certain amount of points before the watch cannot translate the file. Hope this helps! Thanks for watching.
Thanks for making this video I have been using Garmin for a couple of years and I still picked up some great nuggets. Much appreciated!!! Question: In testing do you think Garmin has the best courses/mapping features especially for trail/ultra. There are alot of options out now and it's nice to know when you spend almost a grand (Fenix 5x plus) it's still worth it.
They're the only ones who have actual offline maps on board. I think that alone puts them ahead of the pack! Thanks for watching!
@@ChaseTheSummit thanks a bunch for the confirmation and the quick response!!! Here's to not getting lost in 2020.
Great video. Is this still the case all this time later or is there a way of syncing via GC and turning off turn by turn?
Additionally i have used the FIT option which works but it says i am 10km from my first waypoint that i have created and im 60 miles away as im not on the course yet?
The manual method is still the best in my opinion. When you sync via the app it creates course waypoints for every turn which isn't desirable for my situation. Hope that helps.
Thankyou!
Great video! Learned a lot about courses. When I navigate and follow a trail course I want the map with the route to be visible all the time. Unfortunately I get 5-7 different screen images and have to click back to the course map all the time. How do I improve this? Thanks in advance Niels
Yeah it's strange how that happens. I think the watch automatically switches to the main screen after some time to preserve the battery. The map view consumes more battery because of how often it's being refreshed. You could try changing the order of your data pages so that there's less clicks to get to the map?
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Hey Chase, love your stuff. I’m new to the Fenix 6. Any chance you could do a tutorial on using the pace plan feature?
Thanks! I'll see what I can do!
Hey, thanks for the video!!!
I have one question is the course planning compatible with the Garmin Venu 2S ?
Thank you for the answer :D
Unfortunately no, Venu 2 doesn't have navigation features.
Hello Dave. Thank you for having this awesome channel, helps a lot ;) One question; If you directly click "send to device" button instead of downloading the FIT file into the new files, does it apply the same? Once again thank you. Take care and stay strong
Kind of. Like I mention in the video when you sync from the app it seems to add "course points" to every turn trying to mimic turn by turn navigation. In my use case that was an issue because I wanted to use the "distance to next" data field to tell me how far I was from the next aid station... Not the next turn. The only work around I've found is to push the file over USB.
@@ChaseTheSummit oh ok, good point! Thanx 👍🏻💪🏻
Awesome tutorial! The setup is also nice!
Do you have any insight in how the Suunto app works?
I'm doubting between a Fenix 6 Sapphire or a Suunto 9 Baro, but the stories about the Suunto App make me doubt.
I dont have a ton of experience with Suunto products but I think they've had issues in the past with their app and ecosystem. The suunto 9 baro is starting to feel a little dated compared to the offerings from Garmin and Coros. I'll bet they release something new soon! Thanks for watching!
A few open-water swimmers and tri-guy says me that Suunto has a problems with GPS accuracy and with distance as a result. My Fenix 6X Pro has too, but more less.
I love the video, Dave! Where did you get your "data field" screen that shows 6 fields? I can't find that option anywhere in Garmin IQ; is it only on the Fenix or can the Forerunner 935 get it too? :) (the data screen I'm talking about is at 8:52 in the video) Thanks!
The 935 is limited to 4 data fields unfortunately.
thanks for the guide. I frequently get lost on trail runs the longer they are. in your 100miler, did you use navigation constantly and did it slay your battery. well i suppose you said it lasted the 26 hours but I don't know if that was with navigation on the whole time. if so, I will buy the garmin 6 right away and garmin should pay you a commission! thanks if you could answer the question. (also, does it tell you when you go off course or do you just peek at the map from time to time)
During that 100 I used navigation the entire time. It was enabled all 26 hours. However, I didn't leave the display on the map screen. That screen in particular needs to refresh a lot and causes battery drain. I just let it tell me if I was off course and occasionally flipped over to check the map. It worked GREAT and I actually saved some other runners from going off course because of it. Thanks for watching! (I do get a commission if you choose to purchase through amazon using the link in the description... It costs nothing extra to you)
Thank you
Great Video! But does it work with the normal Garmin Fenix 6 (Not the Pro/Saphire/X etc) ? The link you put in description leads to the Fenix 6 Pro and not the Standard 6. Thanks! 🙏🏼
This process applies to both. However on the Non-Pro you won't get the full map, just a breadcrumb trail of your course. Hope that helps!
Thanks!
Very useful video 💐 New Garmin user here.. is it possible to navigate the course while using pace pro?
Yup!
Great tutorial......
Glad you liked it!
Great video! I still have one problem though... when I start the route, the watch can’t seem to show the map. All I see is a white screen with a tiny green line. I’ve tried to zoom with no luck. Impossible to navigate! Probably an easy way to fix this. Any suggestions? I have a fenix 6s
I would suggest plugging the watch into a computer and updating the maps with Garmin Express software. There's a chance they are corrupt or got deleted by accident. Easy fix usually! Hope this helps!
Nice job. Ever do it through basecamp?
Hi Dave! Is there any way under the course builder to choose one of the other Garmin predefined activities (I want to use the “Climb” activity profile) which does not show up on the limited number of options they give you on the course type menu?
Nope only from the selections but you should still be able to use them in any activity on the watch.
Good video, thanks.
Thanks!
Hi, nice video, Good work. My question is, how do you know during running that you’re going in the direction that you’ve just made in the map?, is it a turn by turn navigation during the run?, because you’re hartrate en speed screens are on the display and not the navigation. What does the navigation screen look like during you’re run? Thanks for you’re reply
There's a separate page for the map if you want to view the route. The watch will also vibrate and beep if you deviate too far off of the course. There's also a "heading bug" you can enable that's visible on all of the screens thats just a small red arrow that points you in the right direction. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching.
@@ChaseTheSummit Thank you, this helps, I will check it out.
Thanks for the tutorial Dave ! I have noticed an annoying issue with course navigation (i use an instinct solar). If you start a course, but then somewhere along the way stop navigation and restart it, the watch will try to direct you only to the starting point. Even if you are on the course - and moving in the correct direction, you cannot see your saved waypoints anymore. This is a major flaw if you are running a race, relying on e.g. aid-station waypoints and accidentally stop navigation. Is this also the case in other models (Fenix etc.)? To be clear - you can still navigate using the breadcrumb line when this happens. Thanks in advance.
Yeah I've noticed that as well but usually the watch will resume the course once you progress 20-30 meters in the right direction. It basically figures out that you're in the middle of the course at some point. Have you tried that?
@@ChaseTheSummit I have tried. In fact I continued the remaining 12k of the run - but the watch insisted on showing the direction and distance to the course start point. Actually - when I finally reached the end of the course (which was also the starting point) - the watch happily said - "Course Started". Garmin support couldn't give me a good advice here. I submitted this issue to their "Ideas" web page. Thanks for your quick response. If you ever get a chance to run a saved course with an Instinct solar - give it a try...
Being a newbie on Garmin 6x pro, really helpful. Any tips on adding data for Strength activity. I am confused about weight and rep protocol.
I don't have a ton of experience with the strength profile but I'm glad this was helpful!
Great Video, thank you! One thing I can't find is how to mark segments. I love to see how long it takes me to hit certain points on my favourite routes, while still having auto km laps on. I have switched from the Suunto 9, where you just pushed the lap button and it gave you time from start. On the Fenix 6, it gives from the last auto lap. As an example, from my house I do a 1.5ish km warm up to the trail head. I want to hit the lap button at that point, then start. Next I want to hit again at the summit to see how long it took me, then again at the bottom. I know I can do this by turning off the auto lap, but I want to see those km splits!! Or on a road tempo run. Warm up, then tempo, then cool down. I want the 3 segments, but also need that km feedback. Hope this makes sense. Thank you!
I think you could do this using Strava segments and Live Segments on the Garmin?
I might be late to the conversation and this problem with showing all the turns may be resolved in an update but for me using the 945LTE there is a toggle in Connect to shut the turn notifications on/off.
Thank you!
Glad you found it useful!
Excellent thank you
You are very welcome
Thanks for the great video. I've used this feature a few times but can not figure out how to turn on the the turn by turn directions
. It only tells me when I'm on or off course. I have the fenix 6x. I use my phone instead of my laptop for garnin connect. Any advice u have for me would be greatly appreciated