credit the young dude. Bright mind and polite. He was big enough to admit he saw he had no purpose. I hope he finds real meaning or he'll end up like other honest nihilists, mad and sad
I believe the young man claimed he had no purpose, to diss Cliffe, for making a valid argument he could not refute. His leaving of the scene was accompanied by a subtle aggravated speedy tone change.
I think the young man said he had less of a purpose…meaning than Cliff’s. In a insulting way. To me, the young man valued the idea of equality as the highest purpose in contrast that we are all equally, sinners. Some more, others less, some forgiven and some not. There is truth that we all have the free will to seek forgiveness or accept our purpose. However, we are not to define our purpose, but to discover it and use it to seed the fields. Not sure, need to think through it more.
Cliffe your great i really really respect how honest you are when you do your thing. I really respect how you admit when you don't know something or you admit we can't "prove God exists" you are right. I love listening to you and watching your videos thanks cliffe God bless from Boston MA!
God has every kind of tool in His Arsenal ... and cliff is a Joy to listen to .. I pray the seed of Christ will take root in those hearts and mind! God is amazing!
Did he saeriously say, "lack of the truth doesn't imply a lie" ???? umm sir, there is no such thing as a lie if there is no truth because a lie itself is the corruption or departure from the truth itself.... for example if you claim that something is evil as an atheist, you do so upon no actual basis because you don't believe in an objective moral standard of God-given laws, thus there is no good and no evil in the atheistic worldview. on the outside atheism SEEMS to appear very intellectual and sophisticated, but when you get into deep philosophical waters they start drowning very quickly, and when you are a theist whom knows his facts and has a sound theological & philosophical basis you will always be able to keep the atheist in a check mate, so-to-speak. Great work Cliffe!
Kid: "Why should we care about whether or not God exists?" Me: You tell us -- you're the one talking about nothing but that very subject for 20 minutes!
He was a hindu or Buddhist guy. He was making baseless argument because they don't have anything valuable in their manmade book which is full of mythology.
The kid was diggin a hole for himself but Cliffe overtalked him, preventing him from falling in it. Sometimes you should let people keep talking in order to expose their fallacious thinking.
Kid says "I still don't understand why you need truth in such a concrete sense." That is a lie -- if he didn't understand that about concrete truth, then he would not be inquiring and expecting concretely truthful answers.
Hindu kid interrupts and tells the others not to interrupted him? I have many dialog with Indians and noticed all of them do the same. Is this a cultural thing?
Pastor Cliff should point out the Prophecy of Gods word in that God tells of many future advents before they happened with 100% accuracy .....only God can do this over and over again and never fail to be wrong.
@@spartanmucho5950 Isaiah 53 is about Jesus Christ, and Matthew 24:2 is about the destruction of the temple in A.D. 70. Those are two that I know but they are all over the Bible! God bless you and Jesus loves you!
That guy doesn't understand if there is really and truly no God , we as humans can just treat each other however we want,and just give value to who we want and when we want to, so hate will always be there and chaos Why should I Love my wife? Why should I Love my mom or Dad? Why should I not kill everything that annoys me?
I think I have to disagree with Cliffe a little here. He said, “nobody observed God walking around,” and that there is no historical narrative of God. How can this be true when you flip the pages left a little until you get to the Pentateuch? Just my thoughts🤷♂️
Any and all similarities among the various Theistic traditions lend credibility to those traditions -- they by no means take away any of their credibility.
Cliffe may have misspoke at the timeframe of 15:00-15:19. Because Moses saw God’s back (I think it was recorded in exodus, chapter 33:12-23)(according to my Google search)
I think that the questioner kid is attempting to construct his narrative in such a manner that people will think that it's true, even though his narrative is actually false.
The questioner at the beginning is a polytheist, not an atheist. Actually, there is no such thing as an atheist -- everyone is either a theist or a polytheist.
If there were no real God, no true God with real existence and real value, then nobody anywhere would ever make up any imaginary or counterfeit God, because there would be no potential reward for doing so if the real God didn't exist. It's just like if there was no such thing as real money with real value, then nobody would ever be motivated to produce counterfeit money. In both cases, the real article does indeed exist, and the counterfeiting businesses prove this fact to be true, in both cases. Therefore, God most certainly exists in reality.
Also because they dont want to take any responsibility for their actions. They will deny God and morals but these type of people will be quick to say to someone you should not of killed that person that was absolutlly wrong.
You are not thinking hard enough sir, his only argument was that the quran is historically reliable, both the Bible and and the Quran are truth claims.
The "concept" of God is definitely man-made, but God is a person, not a concept, and he exists eternally. Mankind is God-made, and there is only one God. God is not Judeo-Christian -- Judaism and Christianity are Godly.
Peanut gallery can cheer for Cliffe if you want but when he says god is the only thing keeping you from bashing his head in was brilliant. strawman if you see him as nothing but atoms is worthless. are atoms worthless. great job young man. He said twice I don't think that. Accidents can have value. Cliffe gets angry when he cant trap you. Cliife was rude and sounded like a child at the end.
The Holy Koran and the Holy Bible are scriptures revealed by God. Mankind still has complete access to both scriptures, exactly as God first revealed them, with absolutely no changes to either scripture. Nobody has ever managed to establish any change to, nor any addition to, nor any subtraction from, any of God's revealed scriptures. Throughout all time, no specific example of any such supposed "change" has ever even been suggested, much less established, by anyone. The same goes for other scriptures revealed by God, such as Srimad Bhagavatam and Bhagavad-gita.
thanks for dropping his name, been listening to one of his 20min videos... Still waiting to hear his actual explanation of morals though... so far all I've gotten is it is embarrassing for someone to think we wouldn't know right from wrong without a god... I will try and check out others ...
adamwv If there is a mind, of maximal greatness, that made creation, then we have an objective source of moral reality. As the creator, He would know what is absolutely moral in any situation. He made the moral rules as He created. Thus, God gives morals. On the other hand, if there is no God (the maximally great mind), then we are left with each other to assert what is moral. At best, we have a subjective standard then. Who can stand up & say, 'I absolutely know what is moral in all situations!'? No one! Therefore, we are left with a relative morality (subjective morality). So, if you think everyone had innate worth, fine. You base that on your authority & I have equal authority, & I say they do not. Who is right? No one! Your view & mine are equally right. In subjective morality there is no good or evil. I am reduced to calling it what I like & what I hate. So, unless you have God making morals, they are totally subjective. Therefore, good & evil lack reality. Stalin, Hitler, Alexander the Great, & anyone else you can think of are morally neutral. Nothing can be good or evil, therefore Morality as we use it is worthless & arbitrary. You are holding an empty bag, morally speaking, without God.
Well we can say that the Christian religion set the precedent for historical fiction and there is a scholarly consensus the Bible is a collection of books put together by church leaders of the Roman empire by a voting process. There is a scholarly consensus that through out the centuries Biblical texts have been added, altered (forged) to fit the theistic views of the church of the times. The book of Mark is a good example of historical fiction. Keep in mind original manuscripts of Mark are missing verses 16:9-20. These verses are a much later addition. Any one reading this post look up the book "The Homeric Epics and the Gospel of Mark" by Dennis R. MacDonald. Mark was using the literary style of mimesis in which the writer mimics the narrative of another writers work yet makes a few modifications here and there to make it there own. Here is a few examples from the book from Dennis R. MacDoanld: Jesus goes to a far off land by boat with his 12 disciples, the hero of homers book Odysseus goes to a far off land with his 12 sailors. Jesus meets a demon coming out of a tomb, Odysseus meets a monster (Cyclopes) coming out of a cave, Jesus asks the demon his name. The demon responds Legion because we are many, Cyclopes asks Odysseus his name, Odysseus responds by saying I am nobody, which is the opposite of many. This is an example mimesis be used by the writer. Now you ask yourself is this a mere coincidence that the stories parallel each other or was Mark writing fiction?
I wanted to let you guys know that Jesus loves you all so much! John 3:16- For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ, the Son of God, died on the cross for our sins, was buried, and resurrected from the dead on the third day. This is the beautiful Gospel, which means "Good News." Acts 20:21- “Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.” If we repent (humbly and truthfully confess our sins to God, committing to forsaking and turning away from them), put our trust in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior giving our lives over to Him, and believe in His Gospel to save us from the just punishment we deserve for our sins, that being hell- Jesus Christ forgives us of our sins and gives us eternal life! God bless you and let me know if you have any questions! Jesus loves you!
The Deepak Chopra kid thought he nailed it. WoW! There is no God but he is God. Purpose? Who cares. Make it as it suits you. I have a name for it. Hypocricy.
Wondering why you didn't mention the fact that we need to accept God because without Jesus as our sacrifice, we are all doomed for hell. But the kid probably would have said "oh well you are just following Christ out of fear!" He was probably waiting for Cliffe to give that answer.
This is wild the older i get, the less important the questions seem, the way these kids are they think any belief system is the same. They havent faced the horrors or spiitual dilemmas of this world which require an answer and object to and attack the existence of God and rarely ask questions of substance but question the realness of the tiny segment of highlights of Jesus short time on earth yet havent thought a second about the things He came to teach us.
hahaha the young indian guy schooling cliffe on the historical farce that is the Qur'an. 2 things, if you are a christian and you say magically (without God) they managed to verse by verse memorize the entirety without error for over 600 years you are either saying, Arabians have the worlds most unique amazing perfect memory (which we can test by giving a muslim 3 random sheets to read then asking him to recite the entire thing perfectly) and secondly there are textual variances between Qur'ans as is with the bible. Muslims will say that it's interpretations refer back to the original... which is basically 600 years of chinese whispers.
Cliffe, I love your apologetics. 99% of what you say to students is wonderful, and I take lots of notes for my own interactions with nonbelievers. One big mistake I see you making is when you talk about the reliability of the Qu’ran. It is wildly unreliable and nowhere near as solid as the Bible. About 20% of it was lost when people who memorized it died. Another passage was eaten by a sheep. And Uthman ibn ‘Affan burned all the versions of the Qu’ran but his after Muhammad’s death against the concerns of who Muhammad said were his best scholars and interpreters of Islam. Not to mention that according to Deut 18:21-22 Muhammad self identifies as a false prophet based on the “satanic verses” revelation and would have been stoned to death by Mosaic law.
may that student find real meaning in this life . . . before meeting his creator whom he obviously abhors and detests...no wonder the bible says "harden not your hearts as in the provocation" . Disbelief and being "stiff necked " is warned with serious consequences in Prov 6:15 & 29:1.
@6:13 Such a deceptive reinterpretation by Muslims who are embarrassed by what the verse actually says. This fabrication about raisins or grapes has been debunked. The Tafsirs which are the classical interpretation of verses of the Quran by scholars confirm that they are actual virgins (women) given as rewards to Muslim men in the paradise of Muhammad. This is undisputed. This was nine years ago. Muslims have been trying to interpret Quran 78:29-34 to obfuscate its actual meaning to no avail The interpretation is that: Jami` at-Tirmidhi and deemed "good and sound" (hasan sahih) *gives this reward specifically for the martyr:* There are six things with Allah for the martyr. He is forgiven with the first flow of blood (he suffers), he is shown his place in Paradise, he is protected from punishment in the grave, secured from the greatest terror, the crown of dignity is placed upon his head-and its gems are better than the world and what is in it-he is given *seventy-two virgins* among the wide-eyed houris (Ar. اثْنَتَيْنِ وَسَبْعِينَ زَوْجَةً مِنَ الْحُورِ الْعِينِ) of Paradise, and he may intercede for seventy of his close relatives.[55]
I am a bit in disagreement with Cliff when it comes to Islam. His knowledge when it comes to Islam is very very limited. In fact I can say he has no knowledge whatsoever when it comes to Islam. It will be very wise to learn and read more before even giving an opinion or evidence.
Your statement is the sort that can only be made by a presuppositionalist, hence it's actually you that has the entire faulty logic. I'd say someone that has unalterable convictions based on myth, legend, presupposition and unsubstantiated rumour is the individual out of touch with reality.
I want to know which one is the "truest". Catholic? Baptist? Southern baptist? Protestant, Lutheran, mormon or Johos.... Greek orthodox, russian orthodox... Presbyterian, I'll leave out the remaining 200 flavors of christianity. Which one is true? Cliffy likes truth. I'm sure someone can point me to the truth... .yah.
curry boy needs to know that Jesus Christ is the way , the truth and life. Only a living God can save you from hell and not a religion. see www.gotquestions.org
Paul MacArthur .. "Curry boy"? That's disrespectful to him and to God. I get that the boy was arrogant and even when logically explaining answers to his questions... He refused point blank to open the lock on his mind to accept truth. It's sad but many are like that. Pray their minds will open up
credit the young dude. Bright mind and polite. He was big enough to admit he saw he had no purpose. I hope he finds real meaning or he'll end up like other honest nihilists, mad and sad
He was being facetious.
I believe the young man claimed he had no purpose, to diss Cliffe, for making a valid argument he could not refute. His leaving of the scene was accompanied by a subtle aggravated speedy tone change.
@@HeyoitsAlvaro exactly. He's in denial
I think the young man said he had less of a purpose…meaning than Cliff’s. In a insulting way. To me, the young man valued the idea of equality as the highest purpose in contrast that we are all equally, sinners. Some more, others less, some forgiven and some not. There is truth that we all have the free will to seek forgiveness or accept our purpose. However, we are not to define our purpose, but to discover it and use it to seed the fields. Not sure, need to think through it more.
That was a tough one for Cliffe
That guy tried really hard to get Cliff in a corner with subtle ridicule and condescension.
The kid "dripping with arrogance" comes to mind. Cliffe exposed the kids dripping ignorance and hard heart. Peace
How, with empty assertions and no tangible evidence?
@@dperkins01ignorant people need tangible proof.
19:43 lol at turning around
Sanmeee😂
martin bell it really was
Cliffe your great i really really respect how honest you are when you do your thing. I really respect how you admit when you don't know something or you admit we can't "prove God exists" you are right. I love listening to you and watching your videos thanks cliffe God bless from Boston MA!
Great patience the Lord has given you Cliffe! Don't grow weary in your well doing....
Tough stuff Cliffe, I admire your patience.
Cliff has great patience
I have watched a bunch of these videos so helpful and inspiring to witness for Jesus Christ.
19:42 lol the slow turn around was awesome! keep up the amazing work cliffe
10:33 get 'em. "Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him." Proverbs 30:5
The young unsaved man vocalized his lack of direction with his final statement. Sad. Self Pride.
Joh 14:6 May God soften his heart, turn his gaze.
God has every kind of tool in His Arsenal ... and cliff is a Joy to listen to .. I pray the seed of Christ will take root in those hearts and mind! God is amazing!
I ran across Cliff's videos as a young boy and now in my 40's I see him in truth. GOD BLESS YOU Cliff, Keep soldiering on in JESUS MIGHTY NAME.
Wow, very powerful 🙌 Thank you for teaching 💟
Thank you Jesus for Cliffe and may God continue to Bless his teachings to the world
this kid loves to hear himself talk
i agree 😅
Harden not your heart. Create in me a clean heart o God and renew a right spirit within me. Psalm 51 10.
Did he saeriously say, "lack of the truth doesn't imply a lie" ???? umm sir, there is no such thing as a lie if there is no truth because a lie itself is the corruption or departure from the truth itself.... for example if you claim that something is evil as an atheist, you do so upon no actual basis because you don't believe in an objective moral standard of God-given laws, thus there is no good and no evil in the atheistic worldview. on the outside atheism SEEMS to appear very intellectual and sophisticated, but when you get into deep philosophical waters they start drowning very quickly, and when you are a theist whom knows his facts and has a sound theological & philosophical basis you will always be able to keep the atheist in a check mate, so-to-speak. Great work Cliffe!
Amen.
Technically, the absence of truth may not be a lie, it may be that the information is unknown
Kid: "Why should we care about whether or not God exists?"
Me: You tell us -- you're the one talking about nothing but that very subject for 20 minutes!
He was a hindu or Buddhist guy. He was making baseless argument because they don't have anything valuable in their manmade book which is full of mythology.
15:39 - I wonder when we are going to hear more about the fragment of the Gospel of Mark from about A.D. 80-90?
Tough questions from young people.
What a little baby. Lol!
He tried to embarrass Cliffe at the end but it didn't work
The kid was diggin a hole for himself but Cliffe overtalked him, preventing him from falling in it. Sometimes you should let people keep talking in order to expose their fallacious thinking.
Wow he absolutely roasted you
Kid says "I still don't understand why you need truth in such a concrete sense."
That is a lie -- if he didn't understand that about concrete truth,
then he would not be inquiring and expecting concretely truthful answers.
Hindu kid interrupts and tells the others not to interrupted him? I have many dialog with Indians and noticed all of them do the same. Is this a cultural thing?
Pastor Cliff should point out the Prophecy of Gods word in that God tells of many future advents before they happened with 100% accuracy .....only God can do this over and over again and never fail to be wrong.
KW Cearley care to give a few examples I’m eager to learn about this
@@spartanmucho5950 Isaiah 53 is about Jesus Christ, and Matthew 24:2 is about the destruction of the temple in A.D. 70. Those are two that I know but they are all over the Bible! God bless you and Jesus loves you!
Without God, there could be no objective meaning to life, and yet there is.
that kid is super intelligent!
Yikes..
I credit the kids courage. But I’ll never understand why people have to be so facetious and rude for no reason.
a better question would be, who knows whether the Quo-ran he kept was the right one, he might just kept the one he felt matches up to his own liking.
That guy doesn't understand if there is really and truly no God , we as humans can just treat each other however we want,and just give value to who we want and when we want to, so hate will always be there and chaos
Why should I Love my wife?
Why should I Love my mom or Dad?
Why should I not kill everything that annoys me?
Imagine the world with No God. As in separate. At least right now we have a balance. Separate would be terrible.
I think I have to disagree with Cliffe a little here. He said, “nobody observed God walking around,” and that there is no historical narrative of God. How can this be true when you flip the pages left a little until you get to the Pentateuch? Just my thoughts🤷♂️
No problem, enjoy the treasure-trove of Hitchens videos that you'll soon find here on YT.
Any and all similarities among the various Theistic traditions lend credibility to those traditions --
they by no means take away any of their credibility.
Where is this kid seeing all these scriptures "flying around???"
Some students lack wisdom, he is too "smart" for his own good
Cliffe may have misspoke at the timeframe of 15:00-15:19. Because Moses saw God’s back (I think it was recorded in exodus, chapter 33:12-23)(according to my Google search)
I think that the questioner kid is attempting to construct his narrative in such a manner that people will think that it's true, even though his narrative is actually false.
The questioner at the beginning is a polytheist, not an atheist.
Actually, there is no such thing as an atheist -- everyone is either a theist or a polytheist.
Hi Cliffe, You are doing a great work. May I suggest a new theme song.
Caught myself humming this song at work haha.Gotta love it.
If there were no real God, no true God with real existence and real value,
then nobody anywhere would ever make up any imaginary or counterfeit God,
because there would be no potential reward for doing so if the real God didn't exist.
It's just like if there was no such thing as real money with real value,
then nobody would ever be motivated to produce counterfeit money.
In both cases, the real article does indeed exist, and the counterfeiting businesses prove this fact to be true, in both cases.
Therefore, God most certainly exists in reality.
Kids these days just do not know how to think but yet they think they do and they're so arrogant about it.
why do so many feel threatened by his answers
Because it threatens their worldview and they feel convicted/challenged.
Also because they dont want to take any responsibility for their actions. They will deny God and morals but these type of people will be quick to say to someone you should not of killed that person that was absolutlly wrong.
He nailed Cliff on the quran. There is no consistency in the quranic translation. Cliff is wrong to defend the quran.
You are not thinking hard enough sir, his only argument was that the quran is historically reliable, both the Bible and and the Quran are truth claims.
The "concept" of God is definitely man-made, but God is a person,
not a concept, and he exists eternally.
Mankind is God-made, and there is only one God.
God is not Judeo-Christian -- Judaism and Christianity are Godly.
Peanut gallery can cheer for Cliffe if you want but when he says god is the only thing keeping you from bashing his head in was brilliant. strawman if you see him as nothing but atoms is worthless. are atoms worthless. great job young man. He said twice I don't think that. Accidents can have value. Cliffe gets angry when he cant trap you. Cliife was rude and sounded like a child at the end.
21:20
I find that young man to be very condescending and Petty at the end of the conversation
The Holy Koran and the Holy Bible are scriptures revealed by God.
Mankind still has complete access to both scriptures, exactly as God first revealed them, with absolutely no changes to either scripture.
Nobody has ever managed to establish any change to, nor any addition to, nor any subtraction from, any of God's revealed scriptures.
Throughout all time, no specific example of any such supposed "change" has ever even been suggested, much less established, by anyone.
The same goes for other scriptures revealed by God, such as Srimad Bhagavatam and Bhagavad-gita.
Cliffe pls don't use the New York times as accurate material.
lol
Wow
thanks for dropping his name, been listening to one of his 20min videos... Still waiting to hear his actual explanation of morals though... so far all I've gotten is it is embarrassing for someone to think we wouldn't know right from wrong without a god... I will try and check out others ...
adamwv
If there is a mind, of maximal greatness, that made creation, then we have an objective source of moral reality. As the creator, He would know what is absolutely moral in any situation. He made the moral rules as He created. Thus, God gives morals.
On the other hand, if there is no God (the maximally great mind), then we are left with each other to assert what is moral. At best, we have a subjective standard then. Who can stand up & say, 'I absolutely know what is moral in all situations!'? No one! Therefore, we are left with a relative morality (subjective morality).
So, if you think everyone had innate worth, fine. You base that on your authority & I have equal authority, & I say they do not. Who is right? No one! Your view & mine are equally right. In subjective morality there is no good or evil. I am reduced to calling it what I like & what I hate.
So, unless you have God making morals, they are totally subjective. Therefore, good & evil lack reality. Stalin, Hitler, Alexander the Great, & anyone else you can think of are morally neutral. Nothing can be good or evil, therefore Morality as we use it is worthless & arbitrary. You are holding an empty bag, morally speaking, without God.
Well we can say that the Christian religion set the precedent for historical fiction and there is a scholarly consensus the Bible is a collection of books put together by church leaders of the Roman empire by a voting process. There is a scholarly consensus that through out the centuries Biblical texts have been added, altered (forged) to fit the theistic views of the church of the times.
The book of Mark is a good example of historical fiction. Keep in mind original manuscripts of Mark are missing verses 16:9-20. These verses are a much later addition. Any one reading this post look up the book "The Homeric Epics and the Gospel of Mark" by Dennis R. MacDonald. Mark was using the literary style of mimesis in which the writer mimics the narrative of another writers work yet makes a few modifications here and there to make it there own.
Here is a few examples from the book from Dennis R. MacDoanld: Jesus goes to a far off land by boat with his 12 disciples, the hero of homers book Odysseus goes to a far off land with his 12 sailors. Jesus meets a demon coming out of a tomb, Odysseus meets a monster (Cyclopes) coming out of a cave, Jesus asks the demon his name. The demon responds Legion because we are many, Cyclopes asks Odysseus his name, Odysseus responds by saying I am nobody, which is the opposite of many. This is an example mimesis be used by the writer. Now you ask yourself is this a mere coincidence that the stories parallel each other or was Mark writing fiction?
Dude......reaching
Numbers 6:24-26,
Deute. 28, Joshua 1:7-8,
Matthew 6:9-15 & 12:31-32
John 4:23-24,
Romans 10:9-13,
1 Corinthians 13:8-13,
11 Peter 3:9,
I wanted to let you guys know that Jesus loves you all so much!
John 3:16- For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Jesus Christ, the Son of God, died on the cross for our sins, was buried, and resurrected from the dead on the third day. This is the beautiful Gospel, which means "Good News."
Acts 20:21- “Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.”
If we repent (humbly and truthfully confess our sins to God, committing to forsaking and turning away from them), put our trust in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior giving our lives over to Him, and believe in His Gospel to save us from the just punishment we deserve for our sins, that being hell- Jesus Christ forgives us of our sins and gives us eternal life!
God bless you and let me know if you have any questions! Jesus loves you!
Ciffe is by far the worst apologist I have ever heard. He is full of assertions and fallacies.
Cliff really went out of his way to defend the Quran in this video
In terms of it being historically reliable.
Wow that kid was full of himself.
The Deepak Chopra kid thought he nailed it. WoW! There is no God but he is God. Purpose? Who cares. Make it as it suits you. I have a name for it. Hypocricy.
Wondering why you didn't mention the fact that we need to accept God because without Jesus as our sacrifice, we are all doomed for hell. But the kid probably would have said "oh well you are just following Christ out of fear!" He was probably waiting for Cliffe to give that answer.
This is wild the older i get, the less important the questions seem, the way these kids are they think any belief system is the same. They havent faced the horrors or spiitual dilemmas of this world which require an answer and object to and attack the existence of God and rarely ask questions of substance but question the realness of the tiny segment of highlights of Jesus short time on earth yet havent thought a second about the things He came to teach us.
hahaha the young indian guy schooling cliffe on the historical farce that is the Qur'an. 2 things, if you are a christian and you say magically (without God) they managed to verse by verse memorize the entirety without error for over 600 years you are either saying, Arabians have the worlds most unique amazing perfect memory (which we can test by giving a muslim 3 random sheets to read then asking him to recite the entire thing perfectly) and secondly there are textual variances between Qur'ans as is with the bible. Muslims will say that it's interpretations refer back to the original... which is basically 600 years of chinese whispers.
is he todd brother
Thought the same thing when I first saw him
Jesus did not rise from the dead -- the disciples robbed the grave.
Cliffe, I love your apologetics. 99% of what you say to students is wonderful, and I take lots of notes for my own interactions with nonbelievers. One big mistake I see you making is when you talk about the reliability of the Qu’ran. It is wildly unreliable and nowhere near as solid as the Bible. About 20% of it was lost when people who memorized it died. Another passage was eaten by a sheep. And Uthman ibn ‘Affan burned all the versions of the Qu’ran but his after Muhammad’s death against the concerns of who Muhammad said were his best scholars and interpreters of Islam. Not to mention that according to Deut 18:21-22 Muhammad self identifies as a false prophet based on the “satanic verses” revelation and would have been stoned to death by Mosaic law.
may that student find real meaning in this life . . . before meeting his creator whom he obviously abhors and detests...no wonder the bible says "harden not your hearts as in the provocation" . Disbelief and being "stiff necked " is warned with serious consequences in Prov 6:15 & 29:1.
@6:13
Such a deceptive reinterpretation by Muslims who are embarrassed by what the verse actually says. This fabrication about raisins or grapes has been debunked.
The Tafsirs which are the classical interpretation of verses of the Quran by scholars confirm that they are actual virgins (women) given as rewards to Muslim men in the paradise of Muhammad.
This is undisputed.
This was nine years ago. Muslims have been trying to interpret Quran 78:29-34 to obfuscate its actual meaning to no avail
The interpretation is that:
Jami` at-Tirmidhi and deemed "good and sound" (hasan sahih) *gives this reward specifically for the martyr:*
There are six things with Allah for the martyr. He is forgiven with the first flow of blood (he suffers), he is shown his place in Paradise, he is protected from punishment in the grave, secured from the greatest terror, the crown of dignity is placed upon his head-and its gems are better than the world and what is in it-he is given *seventy-two virgins* among the wide-eyed houris (Ar. اثْنَتَيْنِ وَسَبْعِينَ زَوْجَةً مِنَ الْحُورِ الْعِينِ) of Paradise, and he may intercede for seventy of his close relatives.[55]
If Jesus ever died at all, then he was not God.
Jesus died.
Therefore, Jesus was not God.
the girl in the yellow shirt on the right at 2:55 is stunningly beautiful.. imo
shake master
i prefer the blond girl in the wide green pants with the black/grey top, red shoes, what a cuttiepie!
+daviddivad777 the blonde in the blue and white top with a white shirt beneath it, with the holes in the knees of her pants.
You all something else hahaah
@@spartanmucho5950 they are killing me rn haha
I am a bit in disagreement with Cliff when it comes to Islam. His knowledge when it comes to Islam is very very limited. In fact I can say he has no knowledge whatsoever when it comes to Islam. It will be very wise to learn and read more before even giving an opinion or evidence.
Your statement is the sort that can only be made by a presuppositionalist, hence it's actually you that has the entire faulty logic. I'd say someone that has unalterable convictions based on myth, legend, presupposition and unsubstantiated rumour is the individual out of touch with reality.
Zoroastrianism
Smug student
I want to know which one is the "truest". Catholic? Baptist? Southern baptist? Protestant, Lutheran, mormon or Johos.... Greek orthodox, russian orthodox... Presbyterian, I'll leave out the remaining 200 flavors of christianity. Which one is true? Cliffy likes truth. I'm sure someone can point me to the truth... .yah.
curry boy needs to know that Jesus Christ is the way , the truth and life. Only a living God can save you from hell and not a religion. see www.gotquestions.org
Paul MacArthur .. "Curry boy"? That's disrespectful to him and to God. I get that the boy was arrogant and even when logically explaining answers to his questions... He refused point blank to open the lock on his mind to accept truth. It's sad but many are like that. Pray their minds will open up
Tough questions from young people.