Clearly this professor is not a rational thinker he talks too much without rationally conversing into the preacher he might not also read in into context this is just a basic analysis you do not need to be a professor even elementary students can understand this explanation or maybe a simple college student you do not need a college degree or a phd or to be a professor to understand the logic
@@preetmehta1260 My question was in relation to your statement. If you meant that there is objective morality i wonder how did you got to that conclusion.
Utter nonsense - these religious fanatics should not be permitted to set foot on our college campuses. "If there is a god, if there is, then I think that most reasonable people can agree that he's at least incompetent and maybe, just maybe, he doesn't give a shit." George Carlin
Dude just quit your same people say to let go and let God you’re words are falling on deaf ears did he not say in hebrews when you enter a house and they do not exept you it’s like expecting soddom and gamorah to change let that ship sink
He said that the children who drowned during the flood at Noah’s time will go to heaven anyway unlike the adults..But drowning is a painful experience for innocent children.. Isn’t that cruel???
Is going to heaven cruel? Death itself is God's justice. Now you're treating the type of death like a restaurant menu and somehow trying to blame God if your death was not as comfortable as it could be like if your chicken was too dry. We'd all like to design our own deaths to be a cakewalk right? There's nothing cruel about what God did in the flood. Do you forget he also came to earth and suffered horrifically for our sins? That's the same God of the flood.
@pietvandijk1349 They had plenty of warning. It took a long time to build the ark, many years, and it was not hidden. (Would be hard to hide such a big ship on your lawn.) The neighbors no doubt frequently asked him what he was doing and he likely told them. Word would have got around about this white elephant crazy Noah was building and he would have been a running joke to them. The people had become so corrupt and evil that no amount of warning would have had any effect, just like Pharaoh was warned repeatedly about the plagues if he didn't let the Israelites go and continued to harden his heart. But he kept going even after his own son died as a result, chasing the Israelites down to the Red Sea. He did not stop until he was physically stopped by the drowning of his army. You seem to have a problem believing that people can be so morally and spiritually depraved that all good words and warnings bounce off them like darts off a tank.
@@pietvandijk1349 Is this a serious question? God doesn't kill. He's the creator so He can give AND take life, NOT murder. For those who believe, we only go to a different place upon death. Whether that's heaven or hell, depends on you though. No one's forcing anybody to be with Him in heaven, not in the least God.
@@pietvandijk1349God does what He sees fit. And as answered above, He doesn't kill anyone, He's the creator and owner of life. He gives it and He takes it whenever and however He wishes.
Cliffe is a modern-day Snake Oil Salesman, nothing more! He is actually giving students good reason to RUN from christian fundamentalism toward a more enlightened foundation and I support that outcome. Secular Humanism is where I landed post-deconversion and it's a better path to follow while I finish living the ONLY life I'm certain I have... join us won't you?
@@jacobmonti453 (1) He's selling a LIE -- when he claims what he's preaching is TRUE, he's lying. (2) Angry narcissists like Cliffle and his son are gaining attention from unsuspecting college freshmen, and apparently a small YT audience too.... to narcissists, that's pure GOLD!
@TomSanders-mi2bg there is this we don’t understand why in this world is happening but Yeshua tells us that in Heaven those who suffer in this world will be free or pain suffering sickness depression- Life does not end in this physical world - GOD BLESS YOU ❤
"Don't think that I came to bring peace but a sword"
(paraphrase of) ..... Jesus
If god created EVERYTHING then he is ultimately responsible for EVERYTHING. Should I ever meet him he will receive "dogs abuse" from me !!!!
Clearly this professor is not a rational thinker he talks too much without rationally conversing into the preacher he might not also read in into context this is just a basic analysis you do not need to be a professor even elementary students can understand this explanation or maybe a simple college student you do not need a college degree or a phd or to be a professor to understand the logic
God is just, He has to exercise justice
Cliffe debates? 2 Intellectuals?
The debate was 1 intellectual short.
5:47 just do anything to make the God just!
What does it mean to be "just"?
@so_zemlji idk... They are talking this word in the video... I think it means that God needs to deliver justice right and he has to be just
@@preetmehta1260 My question was in relation to your statement.
If you meant that there is objective morality i wonder how did you got to that conclusion.
Utter nonsense - these religious fanatics should not be permitted to set foot on our college campuses. "If there is a god, if there is, then I think that most reasonable people can agree that he's at least incompetent and maybe, just maybe, he doesn't give a shit." George Carlin
Dude just quit your same people say to let go and let God you’re words are falling on deaf ears did he not say in hebrews when you enter a house and they do not exept you it’s like expecting soddom and gamorah to change let that ship sink
MATT DILLAHUNTY KILLS CLIFFE EVERY TIME 😂
He said that the children who drowned during the flood at Noah’s time will go to heaven anyway unlike the adults..But drowning is a painful experience for innocent children.. Isn’t that cruel???
Is going to heaven cruel? Death itself is God's justice. Now you're treating the type of death like a restaurant menu and somehow trying to blame God if your death was not as comfortable as it could be like if your chicken was too dry. We'd all like to design our own deaths to be a cakewalk right? There's nothing cruel about what God did in the flood. Do you forget he also came to earth and suffered horrifically for our sins? That's the same God of the flood.
@@buixrule but what gives God the right to kill everybody in the way he likes, without any juridical process? Is God a murderer? Why didn't he warn?
@pietvandijk1349
They had plenty of warning. It took a long time to build the ark, many years, and it was not hidden. (Would be hard to hide such a big ship on your lawn.)
The neighbors no doubt frequently asked him what he was doing and he likely told them. Word would have got around about this white elephant crazy Noah was building and he would have been a running joke to them.
The people had become so corrupt and evil that no amount of warning would have had any effect, just like Pharaoh was warned repeatedly about the plagues if he didn't let the Israelites go and continued to harden his heart.
But he kept going even after his own son died as a result, chasing the Israelites down to the Red Sea. He did not stop until he was physically stopped by the drowning of his army.
You seem to have a problem believing that people can be so morally and spiritually depraved that all good words and warnings bounce off them like darts off a tank.
@@pietvandijk1349 Is this a serious question?
God doesn't kill. He's the creator so He can give AND take life, NOT murder. For those who believe, we only go to a different place upon death. Whether that's heaven or hell, depends on you though. No one's forcing anybody to be with Him in heaven, not in the least God.
@@pietvandijk1349God does what He sees fit. And as answered above, He doesn't kill anyone, He's the creator and owner of life. He gives it and He takes it whenever and however He wishes.
Cliffe is a modern-day Snake Oil Salesman, nothing more! He is actually giving students good reason to RUN from christian fundamentalism toward a more enlightened foundation and I support that outcome. Secular Humanism is where I landed post-deconversion and it's a better path to follow while I finish living the ONLY life I'm certain I have... join us won't you?
no
@@blackbargospel Ok -- I hope someday, you'll come to your senses and escape this insidious cult at some point later in life.... like I did.
Snake oil salesmen have to sell something. What’s he gaining from this?
@@jacobmonti453 (1) He's selling a LIE -- when he claims what he's preaching is TRUE, he's lying. (2) Angry narcissists like Cliffle and his son are gaining attention from unsuspecting college freshmen, and apparently a small YT audience too.... to narcissists, that's pure GOLD!
Cliffe losing....cant explain some of awful stuff in bible...
Awful by whose criteria?
anybody who is honest
@TomSanders-mi2bg there is this we don’t understand why in this world is happening but Yeshua tells us that in Heaven those who suffer in this world will be free or pain suffering sickness depression-
Life does not end in this physical world -
GOD BLESS YOU ❤
There is no real justification of some of the stuff in the bible.