That method is good. I was always taught to use 3 1/2 fid lengths for the bury and a MUCH longer taper. I do agree that Selma fids are the best but I invert the loop before passing the other loop through. I invert it, use a regular fid to widen the hole then take a piece of bailing wire about 6 “ long, fold it in half then place one leg through my loop and the ends into the top off the fid and push it through. It’s been the most elegant method I’ve found and teach it at all of my workshops.
This is great! Interestingly I watched another video where the guy slowly talks through the method, but at the most important part he did it too quickly and I couldn't see what he had done!
Nice work. For another approach that appears to be to the same end (no pun intended), also see; McDonald Brummel, Grogs Knots. Full sails and fair winds!
@@Premiumropes In that facebook video the long free end is used. I believe he's asking how to do this on a ring when the long free end can't be threaded back. For example when an arborist makes a line with rings on both ends. It's not as simple as it sounds. If the loop is large enough to get the ring on after the loop is made, the loop will be too large to hold the ring securely....
11 months later than you asked but I only just saw your question. If you can move your block and it is small enough Use a mobius brummel splice. Here is a video that shows it well. th-cam.com/video/WOBs_aCxZ0c/w-d-xo.html If your block is larger and immovable, you will probably use an eye splice Here is a good video that shows the eye splice well th-cam.com/video/QeYBkMCQ8WY/w-d-xo.html and another using synthetic rope th-cam.com/video/PTV0b3o_BaM/w-d-xo.html
+Ray Mack Free end to A is the bury length. Generally around 50 to 72 diameters. This is critical to the strength of the splice. A to B determines the circumference of the loop. For general purpose eyes I measure the length necessary to twirl up a larks head knot with thumb and index finger. In my case a circumference of 6 inches.
What if I didn’t take the “twist” out bc I did everything else I just didn’t pull the eye back through to get the twist out.. will it hold okay with the twist or do I need to redo all my sticks? I hope not bc that’s gonna suck. That for the video
haha, good point. I just ran into the shrinking problem when I spliced the border rope for a trampoline. I added a few inches on a total rope length of 34 feet not too much but in the end I ran into issues at the corners 😞if you find someone who has a good estimate for shrinkage, let me know
What is the tool that grabs the line and pulls it back through at the end? That's not just a "pusher" is it? Do most pushers have the grabbing capability? Thanks for this video, btw. Excellent stuff.
Hi! We use the D-splicer fixed. You can find the splicers on the website. www.premiumropes.com/d-splicer-fixed and www.premiumropes.com/d-splicer. And thanks for your comments!:)
if you pay attention to the title of the video, this one applies to the situation with a fixed end. Same as you are asking, just repeat on both ends. Increase buried length, you can increase as much as you like, as long as you are above the min length. If you don't want to see any taper just bury both ends to the midpoint of the rope.
There is no way to pull my line through itself (the last step) it's just waaay to tight :/ I ended up splitting the line to two halves and cutting one of them off, then pulling through what was left. It's not very smooth but still better than leaving it loose.
Next time you've got a rope too tight, it's better to taper the loose end instead of just cutting half of. This way you keep the construction of the rope, while you're making it easier to pull through
That method is good. I was always taught to use 3 1/2 fid lengths for the bury and a MUCH longer taper. I do agree that Selma fids are the best but I invert the loop before passing the other loop through. I invert it, use a regular fid to widen the hole then take a piece of bailing wire about 6 “ long, fold it in half then place one leg through my loop and the ends into the top off the fid and push it through. It’s been the most elegant method I’ve found and teach it at all of my workshops.
Thanks to Brion Toss of Port Townsend WA who invented this, and sadly passed today from cancer. We'll miss him.
I used this video last night with 1.75 mm Zing-it! Works great. Thanks for sharing!
Brilliantly simple way to do it. Thanks for the clear video.
This is the clearest easiest method I've seen for a free-end only locked brummel. I'm using 9/64 AmSteel.
Used a BIC pen as I don't have the special needles. Worked perfectly.
could definitely carve the lil guideways in a bic pen shaft! great innovation!
I also use the pen, the bst is to find a BIC like without edges, as a cylinder
This is great! Interestingly I watched another video where the guy slowly talks through the method, but at the most important part he did it too quickly and I couldn't see what he had done!
Really easy to follow and got it right first time ....... Thanks
Nice work. For another approach that appears to be to the same end (no pun intended), also see; McDonald Brummel, Grogs Knots. Full sails and fair winds!
Damn nice work. I’m thinking that this method might work with paracord?
Your veins are freaking me out man.
What size are your fids?
Do I need 50xDiameter for the splice, when i do a overhand knot directly on the loop?
we'd recommend just to make the splice and leave out the knot! Knots reduce the breaking load.
Thanks for sharing 👍
You're very welkom! 👍
This is really helpful but how do you do splice a block on with one end fixed. Any help appreciated.
Hi, this is also possible. We made a small video which is on our Facebookpage: fb.watch/3rQbjhAz08/
@@Premiumropes In that facebook video the long free end is used. I believe he's asking how to do this on a ring when the long free end can't be threaded back. For example when an arborist makes a line with rings on both ends. It's not as simple as it sounds. If the loop is large enough to get the ring on after the loop is made, the loop will be too large to hold the ring securely....
11 months later than you asked but I only just saw your question.
If you can move your block and it is small enough
Use a mobius brummel splice.
Here is a video that shows it well.
th-cam.com/video/WOBs_aCxZ0c/w-d-xo.html
If your block is larger and immovable, you will probably use an eye splice
Here is a good video that shows the eye splice well
th-cam.com/video/QeYBkMCQ8WY/w-d-xo.html
and another using synthetic rope
th-cam.com/video/PTV0b3o_BaM/w-d-xo.html
Great Video - thanks for the details!!! Would this be just as easy on a 3/8 inch winch rope?
Yes as long as it is a hollow braid rope
If I make a fixed loop on both ends, would I need to lock stitch them both?
When you make this splice you do not need to do any stitching. The lock is enough
Why do yo take mesures? Nice video!
+Ray Mack Free end to A is the bury length. Generally around 50 to 72 diameters. This is critical to the strength of the splice. A to B determines the circumference of the loop. For general purpose eyes I measure the length necessary to twirl up a larks head knot with thumb and index finger. In my case a circumference of 6 inches.
Imagine with Paragliders or Kites that all lines (min 4) must exactly be of the same length ..
What if I didn’t take the “twist” out bc I did everything else I just didn’t pull the eye back through to get the twist out.. will it hold okay with the twist or do I need to redo all my sticks? I hope not bc that’s gonna suck. That for the video
It's better to have a rope without a twist. This will give the maximum performance.
Is there a way to know how much to rope shrinks when you burry the tail?
haha, good point.
I just ran into the shrinking problem when I spliced the border rope for a trampoline.
I added a few inches on a total rope length of 34 feet not too much but in the end I ran into issues at the corners 😞if you find someone who has a good estimate for shrinkage, let me know
What is the tool that grabs the line and pulls it back through at the end? That's not just a "pusher" is it? Do most pushers have the grabbing capability? Thanks for this video, btw. Excellent stuff.
Hi! We use the D-splicer fixed. You can find the splicers on the website. www.premiumropes.com/d-splicer-fixed and www.premiumropes.com/d-splicer. And thanks for your comments!:)
Is tapering the core purely cosmetic, or is it vital to the strength of the knot
It is important for the strength. If you do not taper it you have a week spot were it goes from thick to suddenly thin
The tapering prevents a stress concentration where the line goes from thick to thin. Tapering should be done on the last 1/3 end
vital, you don't want the fibers to change direction too abruptly or it will loose strength.
@premium ropes how can i make one on both ends, also can i increase the bury length by double for cosmetic reasons? thanks.
if you pay attention to the title of the video, this one applies to the situation with a fixed end. Same as you are asking, just repeat on both ends.
Increase buried length, you can increase as much as you like, as long as you are above the min length. If you don't want to see any taper just bury both ends to the midpoint of the rope.
What’s the tool you used to pull the tail through the core?
I have a loop turner but that looks a bit more effective.
Hi, We use the D-Splicer tools for splicing. www.premiumropes.com/d-splicer-kit-a4
@@Premiumropes what size? The link does not work anymore. Thanks
There is only one size.
www.premiumropes.com/d-splicer-set
@@Premiumropes there is F10, F15, F20 etc no?
Great video. Where did yo get the tools used? Fid and square something r other.
Nick Sebring
Brilliant, thank you
What's the music?
Sounds Opeth-ish
There is no way to pull my line through itself (the last step) it's just waaay to tight :/ I ended up splitting the line to two halves and cutting one of them off, then pulling through what was left. It's not very smooth but still better than leaving it loose.
Next time you've got a rope too tight, it's better to taper the loose end instead of just cutting half of. This way you keep the construction of the rope, while you're making it easier to pull through
what is its efficiency rating
I'm sorry but this is not baseball. This rope has been tested and retains about 90% of the break load
Thank you!
Great video! Thank you!
Glad you liked it! Thanks
how strong is this?
It will have 90% of the breaking strenght of the rope.
@@Premiumropes Thank You!
thanks again
Nice, but music sucks, would MUCH rather hear someone explain as they go.
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genial!