Best Starter Synology NAS in 2024 (dont waste your money)

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  • In this video I will be covering the different Synology NAS units that I recommend to beginners depending on your setup and needs. I will be reviewing some of the key features to consider including number of bays, BTRFS, ram, ability to upgrade networking, docker containers, and cost, and then I will be reviewing some of the units I recommend most often.
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    DS120j (only if you have to) - amzn.to/3SG9iTL
    DS124 (don't buy) - amzn.to/3MHkgVg
    DS223j - amzn.to/46cbF40
    DS223 (don't buy) - amzn.to/3QF3GGD
    DS423 - amzn.to/3QBkBu0
    DS423+ - amzn.to/3FYX9li
    DS923+ (don't buy) - amzn.to/3QC7XLg
    DS1522+ - amzn.to/3umLcmP
    DS1621+ - amzn.to/46f5uvO
    DS1821+ - amzn.to/49Ckffi
    Hard drives I recommend: amzn.to/3RA3udS
    #nas #synology
    TOC:
    00:00 Key factors to consider
    06:20 Walkthrough of units
    15:22 Conclusion
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  • @SpaceRexWill
    @SpaceRexWill  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Forum post with Synology Black friday deals! : forums.spacerex.co/t/synology-black-friday-deals-and-review/1443

    • @MattGeorgeusa
      @MattGeorgeusa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great videos. Especially this one. Looking for a 4 bay now with drives. Do you have any insight on Cyber Monday Synology deals. The Black Friday link was awesome. Appreciate all the effort you put into this.

    • @StaceySchroederCanada
      @StaceySchroederCanada 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Has anyone been aware of the Asus warranty FTC stuffs? ... Trying not to say too much but Gamer's Nexus is probably the best at issuing the warning the correct way.

  • @MaxDibe
    @MaxDibe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Thank you for this video, it helped me in understanding more about NAS. I appreciate the fact that you explain things in a clear way and with a calm voice.

  • @XMegaJuni
    @XMegaJuni 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Starting a family soon, looking to invest in one of these for the home to keep all our videos and photos and then later on in life hopefully through upgrades our daughter can carry it forward.

  • @bobfig
    @bobfig 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Hey, thanks man. This was super helpful. I'm waiting for the black friday sales here in Australia and had put the DS923+ in my cart! Now focused on the 1522+. 🙌🙌

  • @EsotericArctos
    @EsotericArctos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I started out with a DS416 model - Filled it with 4 4TB drives, and then ended up getting a DS918+. I have 4 10TB drives in that now, but not close to running out of space yet.
    I also use Surveillance Station now, and with the 2 NAS devices, I have 4 camera licenses. Using CMS in Surveillance Station I could combine the licenses to use 4 cameras recording to 918+. I would definitely recommend looking to the future with these things though. IF you need 12TB now, get the NAS and hard drives based around double or triple that space. Also, make use of the multiple NIC's on the disk stations. Even if the you only get the one with 2NICs it makes a big difference over a single gigabit nic.

  • @jchris_fpv
    @jchris_fpv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I have upgraded from 220j to 224+. This is like hell and heaven. Speed difference is so huuuuge between them. And I am talking only about light usage such us i.e. Photos. I was thinking about going for 4 bay but 1) I am not (yet) a heavy user 2) I keep some data but mostly these are photos from my Canon camera 3) Till now 4tb was fine for me (2x4tb in Raid 1). I got also all together 6 gigs of ram. 220j is like 0,5 GB so it is so tiny for doing even light stuff. I am happy with the choice. Thank you for the video. Cheers.

  • @KrispyKrink
    @KrispyKrink 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I retired my old 2 bay WD MyCloud PR2100 for the DS923+. Currently just 3 12TB drives and a 500GB NVME I already had sitting around as read only cache. I moved several of the docker containers I was running on a raspberry pi onto the NAS and it runs nice.

  • @edlippjr
    @edlippjr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    good review my guy! I am finding it so hard to pull the trigger on my first Synology. I want rack mount because I love racks of gear and I hate devices sitting around. At some point I'll take the plunge and I think this info helped inch me closer! :)

  • @k.b.tidwell
    @k.b.tidwell 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I like you, man. You helped me. I've wanted to get into a home cloud and out of "the" cloud for years, but just have never dedicated to it. You've inspired me and informed me. You threw a lot of terms at me that I frankly am not familiar with, but that's not my bailiwick, and I sincerely appreciate you doing the heavy lifting there.
    All of that got you my sub, and glad to do it, but there's ONE thing I want to suggest for the video (and others like this)...I'd like to have seen a timestamp breakdown on each unit because now I'm going back through the video to home in on the ideal NAS for me, but it's a bit of a back-and-forth CF (military term there for "cluster-F" lol). Hey, I can look at the transcript, but you get me, it would just be way more convenient to zoom right to the product.
    Thanks again, have a great day!

  • @johnwilson1911
    @johnwilson1911 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    Dude! I wish this video was available last week. I just purchased my Synology NAS. My heart sank when you said that you would skip over the DS923+. That said, I'm not disappointed in the DS923+. I almost purchased the DS1522+ but didn't want to fork the extra $$ out. Thanks for the hard work you put in on your channel.

    • @dobrzpe
      @dobrzpe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      likewise - it was a lil disheartening when he said 'i just always skip it...'! *HOWEVER* the DS923+ is PERFECT for me!

    • @MorganSullivan
      @MorganSullivan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The DS916+ is still perfect for me (media server over smb, backup and 1 lightweight docker). Don't beat yourself much! It all depends of what you want it for.. And if you need more drives just get the expansion unit (which was my main point for getting a 9+ but I am just over half full).

    • @Nikita-ci5dr
      @Nikita-ci5dr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I own 923+ and this video didn't change my mind. A do not want to spend extra 150 usd for 4 gb of ram and one extra disk slot.

    • @jayzn1931
      @jayzn1931 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It loosk like the 923+ can fit up to 32gb ram compared to 6gb of the 423+, an it can be extended without having to upgrade the entire NAS. I guess if the price point is similar to the 1522+ you get more value out of that, as it already has an extra bay, twice the ram, more rj45 ports and the same cpu.
      For me currently the 1522+ costs 150€ more than the 923+ though so it‘s not a bad option imo!

    • @JohnSmith-zl8rz
      @JohnSmith-zl8rz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wait for a deal on the DS1522+

  • @darkrangersinc
    @darkrangersinc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is perfect for what I’m looking for “just realizing I need a NAS” this was perfect.

  • @mar4kl
    @mar4kl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This is great information. I'm not new to NASes, but I've mostly bought QNAP until recently. Thank you for demystifying Synology's model numbering convention. That will save me a lot of time when shopping online. (Mostly from QNAP's security breach incidents, I've learned to avoid buying "new old stock" NASes unless the NAS will have absolutely no Internet connectivity, because manufacturers stop pushing out firmware updates for a NAS long before the hardware starts to fail, and not long after the firmware updates stop, the NAS's online security becomes a problem.) I'll no doubt re-watch this video the next few times I help a client find a NAS, because you do such a great job of explaining the more advanced features and when they're important.

    • @mrdali67
      @mrdali67 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Security isn't really an issue, unless you absolutely need to make your stuff available outside your home. Personly I can't see why I wanted to set up a personal server for my friends to access my Plex files or other personal files, and If I did I could set up a vlan specific for remote access that is only used when I want someone to access my files and just let the personal files be internal use only. Even the most shitty ISP routers you get have settings to block specific internal adresses from being exposed beyond the firewall, so even someone should manage to hack the vlan they'd only get to stuff that I already have backups of or is deemed to not matter if someone should get thru the firewall. Beside that you could also just use invites to a cloud provider of your choice and use that for sharing files and just make sure your home network has a good security. This is the primary culpit when "normal" non IT pro's get hacked that their Firewall securities isn't set up for maximal Stealth beside downloading stuff from dodgy sites, that's why I always says don't only run windows build in firewall cause that can be turned off at any time you run something you arent 110% sure is free of ransomware, and lots of people still do this to run cheat files for games or download "cracked" software

  • @WASH3D
    @WASH3D 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dude, thank you for this video. I literally was about to go 4x 4tb and didn't even realize I could underpopulate with 2x 16tb. THANK YOU.

  • @KarlRock
    @KarlRock 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks, I needed this.

  • @avonperera2187
    @avonperera2187 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought a DS120j to act purely as a remote phone photo/document upload. From there I use drive sync to sync to my old pixel 5 for unlimited Google photos upload, and from the pixel it automatically transfers to my QNAP which is local only. Best of both worlds for me.

  • @nauriak
    @nauriak 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Appreciate the video, as this is the 2nd or 3rd video I've seen after searching "filmmaking storage" I would have appreciated an initial defining of the acronyms btrfs, nas etc.

  • @robertleem5643
    @robertleem5643 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I bought the DS920+ back in March and it was the best decision at the time, I have 3 Toshiba 14tb disks in there said up as SHR, I also own a 5 bay DAS as a back up only device just in case I lose my Synology. I have a docker container set up with Jellyfin on it, primarily use it as a media player and photo backup, it's thanks to videos from Spacerex and mydoodads and a couple of other channels whose videos really help you set it up. Many thanks

    • @BoringBing
      @BoringBing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hey can we use NAS to Edit videos in Premier Pro. I mean Can we use NAS for a server, I mean yeah it is a server but I am talking about could it will be possible to share NAS to my work partners in a high speed?? Is it possible I mean there is only two ports of Ethernet Connections so is that mean I only could able to share files with 1 other guy in high speed???

  • @US_Joe
    @US_Joe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As always - good one Rex. Could you discuss using Syno's 5 bay expansion unit. I'm trying to decide whether to buy this vs another Nas entirely. Take care👍👍👍

  • @samgao
    @samgao 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I went from a synology, to a netgear readynas, back to synology, now I’m on QNAP. With their adoption of ZFS, and their impeccable hardware, QNAP wins for me. Though I do like synology’s interface better…
    Now I’ve learned not even synology is good enough… time to DIY it! Funny, I’m seeing an influx of DIY NAS’s, even though you could’ve BYO for years… and they had NAS chassis for years… maybe trueNAS is finally easy to use?

  • @XouZ88
    @XouZ88 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I started out with a DS920+ with 2x4TB drives, bought a third drive 2 years after and now I'm planning to get a fourth and change to SHR2 to get two drive redundancy, after that I'm either going to get an expansion unit or start to replace each drive with an larger one. If your looking for redundancy I wouldn't recommend going lower than 4 bay. But I would recommend to only buy two drives for it to start with and add extra drives later, mostly to avoid all drives failing at the same time due to similar age.

  • @jonaspufahl7713
    @jonaspufahl7713 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I do not understand why you skip the 224+ and recommend the 423+, they have both the same CPU and one RAM Slot, only difference is 4 Disks and m2 slot. Here in Germany it is 300€ vs 500€ (nearly doubled!). I am planning only with two HDDs and Containers are a big thing for me. I ordered the 224+ because it has all needed and I still believe it is the right choice for a lot of users planning to connect their smart home etc.

  • @dennisseemann571
    @dennisseemann571 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Video, excellent explanations on the available options, thanks. I am looking for a NAS specifically to run the Synology Security Station with 6 cameras, the Synology website recommends the DVA1622, and since you didn't address the DVA group in your discussion I was wondering if you'r aware of a better option. all the AI stuff (facial recognition etc) I probably wouldn't get into right away, but perhaps in the future. Thanks again for the excellent information.

  • @DavidM2002
    @DavidM2002 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    I came really close to buying a 2 bay NAS as my first one because I couldn't see the value in a 4 bay. I bought the 4 bay anyway and it was the best decision that I made with my NAS ownership history. The future value is what really counted in the end.

    • @gelr2228
      @gelr2228 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What model did you buy ?

    • @DavidM2002
      @DavidM2002 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gelr2228 The DS-920+ . I also have a QNAP. If it was my first NAS, I'd go Synology. If you have any interest in installing virtual machines ( which can be extremely useful), then go maximum on the RAM which I think is 32Gb on the DS-923+.

    • @rcc9677
      @rcc9677 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gelr2228 He most likely bought the DS923+ or the DS423+

    • @rcc9677
      @rcc9677 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Also don't buy 4TB or 8TB drives. Go straight to drives that are 14TB or larger.

    • @Neiltwo2
      @Neiltwo2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I bought a DS220+, 2 bay with 2x 4tb disks because I thought "I don't need more than 8tb". After installing I had 4tb of storage because of SHR. I feel like I made the worst choice possible.

  • @IIGrayfoxII
    @IIGrayfoxII 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a DS418j.
    It not bad, I first had 4 4TB drives in SHR in it which was fine for 3 years, but I started to get get close to filling it.
    So I got 4 10TB drives and I am now at 50% used.
    But those 4TB drives were not wasted, I have a Proraid box and I have put those in that and set that raid box to RAID 0.
    When it comes time to upgrade, I I may go with a 5 bay or even a 6 bay.

  • @pohuligan5998
    @pohuligan5998 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great advice, thanks! Almost made a mistake of buying non-16TB disks!

  • @jos5067
    @jos5067 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good advice, thanks! I will go for the 423 as a file server at home for music, foto’s and so on.

  • @macsterguy
    @macsterguy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I purchased the 723+ and added Ram as well as ssd. I should have watched this first but I am happy...

  • @mdd1963
    @mdd1963 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    got a couple 923J models for attempts to resell here locally in Japan, and, surprisingly, Amazon has a few 'bundle with 2 Synology drives' options where the SYnology drives are priced reasonably, vice the standard '1.8X price of equivalent Iron Wolf Pro drive' formula often seen! :)

  • @GreeceExplored
    @GreeceExplored 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Agree with your comments, one idea I would float, using a 1 bay as a low cost off site backup for a larger array. I do exactly this. 4 bay NAS at home, backed up to a 1 Bay at my parents. I know not perfect, but the chances of both NAS failing at the same time is low, and as a backup is affordable and relatively low risk, lower risk than a 4 bay NAS with no backup.

    • @SpaceRexWill
      @SpaceRexWill  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Absolutely! Having that true offsite backup is a huge upgrade!

    • @zzLZHzz
      @zzLZHzz หลายเดือนก่อน

      good point on using the 1 Bay as a backup of your NAS on a off-site location. It gets the job done at a lower cost.

  • @gmontenegro9711
    @gmontenegro9711 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m actually planning to buy a DS923+ diskless. Glad this came across my algorithm.
    Plan to have a file server and media server.

  • @Cam.Klingon
    @Cam.Klingon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I need a NAS as well, but I'm going the unraid route, as I have a few workstations around. Liking the info in your videos though, keep up the good work.

    • @Uberragen21
      @Uberragen21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      An NAS without RAID is like cutting off the tree branch you're standing on.
      One of the best features of all NAS units is the ability to have data parity (or redundancy). Without RAID when, NOT IF, one drive fails you lose EVERYTHING on the storage array. No data can be recovered.
      In a RAID with parity (anything other than RAID 0), you can replace that failed drive before a second fails and rebuild the RAID array and recover the data from the parity bits on the other drives.
      Please rethink your decision.

    • @Cam.Klingon
      @Cam.Klingon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Uberragen21 wow you're stupid

  • @DA-bc8wg
    @DA-bc8wg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great info video. Does the DS423+ accept 18tb hard rives from Seagate?

  • @akumarus
    @akumarus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought 923+. I run it in my home. Added the 8GB and also nvmes. all good

  • @TheBranchez
    @TheBranchez 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I am just getting into this stuff and I am wondering, which one of these models is enough for streaming of 4k blu ray rips? HRD, DV, DTS, DA etc. without issues?

  • @lideaecerta6762
    @lideaecerta6762 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, thank you for all your videos! So helpful. Do you have any recommends for a reliable synology from a few years ago that I might find 2nd hand on ebay? i'm on a tightight budget. Currently I only have a 1 bay synology. looking for something that can make 10-15tb work.

  • @venk4u
    @venk4u 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for the video. Super helpful. In your info above, you have mentioned that don't buy DS923+. Is that right? Can you provide additional clarity? Debating between. 423+ vs. 923+ vs 1522+. .. it is for my wife, who runs photography services, and trying to set this in the network for her to access photos seamlessly. She primarily uses a MAC / ADOBE suite with portable drives now. It's painful to see her switch multiple portable drives; hence, I want to do this for her. Appreciate your perspectives.

  • @YTFPV
    @YTFPV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video but what would your recommend for speed and space ? I am using right now a 4TB SSD with 2 5TB HDD backup but i want centralize and make it easy on my workflow . Thanks

  • @azizbrownkuwindacorp
    @azizbrownkuwindacorp หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is a great help, thanks!

  • @Grue_ni
    @Grue_ni หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had the DS218play as my first nas, with this nas i changed my HDDs three times to up to 2x 18TB discs. Now as the discs got full again i got the DS1821+ with 10gbit and ssd cache with 64gig Ram...
    Sure the DS1821+ is another level, but i have to say, the DS218play made its job more than good for what i needed it , it depends what you want to do with the NAS...i use my NAS as Mediaserver and Data Storage, and i am the only person to access it. The DS1821+ is the endgame for me...
    I didnt even know that synology has NAS with a single bay...

  • @MyStuffhappens
    @MyStuffhappens หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Video, I'm wondering if Ic an ask a question, we have a bout 12 employees split over 2 locations (8 peeps at one and 2 at another and a couple of people remote from home) We're a law form and have mostly word and pdf files. Currently we have a cloud based solution , but have been having sync/speed issues. We have about 600 GB of files but again a large amount of files.- (not large files) what kind of NAS setup would you recommend?

  • @DanBuell
    @DanBuell 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome demystifying video - thank you very much - will purchase through affiliate links!!!

  • @veneratedmortal4369
    @veneratedmortal4369 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Australia most of the basic units are $300-400 ,the 4-5 bay plus units are about $800-900, the 8 bay plus is about $1k. I just went for the 8 bay, like you said hdds are the big cost at about 300-500+ each here.

  • @ME2K23
    @ME2K23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👍😊👍 Great video, great advice!

  • @jensdalsgaard
    @jensdalsgaard หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice overview. If I want to host an internal website on my network, what am I looking for? Can not seem to see wich ones does that.

  • @professor502
    @professor502 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sir thank you for your hard work i love how you make the information very simple can i ask you something please does the synology 1522+ will work good withe the plex like 423+ ?

  • @timinigi
    @timinigi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was really hoping for an opinion on a DS620slim because it is such a specific one. Do you recommend?

  • @blackchristiangeek
    @blackchristiangeek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. God bless

  • @NichWoodruff
    @NichWoodruff 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I currently have a DS723+ for my office and looking to convert it to an offsite unit. What 2-bay unit do you recommend as a replacement? Current use is for photo and video archiving for a photography company with around 6TB of data/year.

  • @amirraouf7
    @amirraouf7 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi and thanks for all your videos 😊 Do you see 1524+ a possibility or should I just go for 1522+?

  • @IMBlakeley
    @IMBlakeley 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 416j failed while the 920+ was still available so I could get that. I'd started with 4TB disks so that's what got transferred over from the old unit. Added 16GB of ram got a couple of containers and a VM running.

  • @hamtaroyt
    @hamtaroyt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the very well informed video, this 100% helped me understand the Synology line-up. Wish their systems were not overpriced.

  • @pyratelyfx
    @pyratelyfx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for posting

  • @greatwavefan397
    @greatwavefan397 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should you store your NAS's OS in the RAID drives? or its own drive?

  • @yumri4
    @yumri4 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the main part he forgot is the UPS to put the NAS unit(s) on so when there is a spike or fall in power it doesn't effect it. Now yes it isn't about the UPS but knowing how to calculate for what UPS to get would be nice as it isn't a standard PC but a specialized computer for network storage.

  • @KartikJayaraman79
    @KartikJayaraman79 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best option in my opinion is to get the DS1522+ and then the DX517 in the future if needed to expand to 10 bays

  • @kostapsimoulis9370
    @kostapsimoulis9370 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video. Could you possibly add DS224+ to this list?

  • @TheCynysterMind
    @TheCynysterMind 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I started out with a 220j....I slapped 2x18TB drives in it as a JBOD.... mainly because those 18TB I was planning on putting into my Drobo and it didn't work out... the unit was starting to fail and after the 18TB the drobo started rebooting randomly... SO I removed them (one at a time) and put the 10TB drives back
    SOooooo I started out with the 220j as a place to host my DVD collection.... and it worked out so well that I decided to put everything that I had on my Drobo onto a NAS.
    And no I did not stick with the 220j
    I now have a 1522+ with 32 Gigs of Ram... 2x 1TB NvMe drives and 4x18TB drives in it.
    I am not just using it as a dumb storage anymore... It is also My Video Library with VideoStation (I detest PLEX) and AudioStation for my music
    It is also an SFTP server and a VPN server... I have it connected to an APC 1500G
    And now I am preparing on upgrading my Network to 10GB which will make it faster than my attached Drobo.

  • @brianw6645
    @brianw6645 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is the best starter NAS that I can use two 20TB WD Red drives that I purchased for the cyber Monday deal? I also purchased the Synology DS224+, but apparently that doesn't support the 20TB drives, so it is going back to B&H.

  • @EricOnYouTube
    @EricOnYouTube 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for this. But I think I am going to go with the DS224+.

  • @peter6314
    @peter6314 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for sharing

  • @Kiskaresz03
    @Kiskaresz03 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice AC-47 Spooky pic on the wall 🤘

  • @anthonysummy6944
    @anthonysummy6944 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I run a 2-node ESX cluster in my home lab, and currently use an older NetGear ReadyNAS as iSCSI shared storage, with a second ReadyNAS for Veeam backups. The performance of the older ReadyNAS via iSCSI is pathetic. Quite frankly, it sucks!
    I have been mulling over buying a 2-disk Synology NAS to use for the real-time iSCSI shared storage, and using the ReadyNAS as a Veeam backup repository (via SMB or NFS).
    If I were to go that route, would it be better to stick with iSCSI on a Synology, or should I go with NFS instead? (I'm only referring to the real-time ESX shared storage, not the backups.)I suspect I will get a hundred different answers to this question, but I am honestly interested in your opinions and thoughts on the subject.
    What would you all do in this scenario?

  • @bauertothepeople
    @bauertothepeople 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey! Thanks for that great overview! I just got the 224+. Could you just briefly add your perspective on that one? That would be wonderful! :) Thank you!

    • @axi0matic
      @axi0matic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      9:14. Personally, I think it looks good. Anything lower can’t do drive encryption, or run Plex without workarounds. With the size of modern HDDs, 2 bays are plenty. Either way, it will need backing up (e.g. to USB).

  • @PatrickDKing
    @PatrickDKing 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have an 1821+ with WD golds in them and don't get the hard drive warning...does the 2422+ give the hard drive warnings? I thought they were the same except for the extra bays.

  • @ArnaudFalchier
    @ArnaudFalchier 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Quick question: I have a 1522+ that gets maxed out with 18TB drives. Is the extension a good idea or should I migrate to an 8 bay? I hear sometimes that the extension is not the best thing to go for.

    • @SpaceRexWill
      @SpaceRexWill  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So it comes down to your workflow. If you have a separate section of data (second volume) then it can work well!

  • @HamletSquatFit
    @HamletSquatFit 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Will, thanks to you I know now what to buy! Quick question: would connecting x2 1GB LAN cables to the NAS & my PC give me 2GB speeds, even if I'm paying my provider a 1GB speed internet plan?

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're confusing lan speed with provider speed. Also, to get higher speed from a two-cable connection, you need network hardware that supports link aggregation

  • @Baerchenization
    @Baerchenization 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have an old DS211j and the drive compatibility list has 12 TB HDDs as max capacity - can I bang in an 18TB drive anyway, or should those limits be observed? I want to mirror my DS918 on to this, so want to go as large as possible with the drives.

  • @neogx148
    @neogx148 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a 1515+ since 2017 and starting to look at new nas the 8 bay seems like it would last me a good 6+ years without worrying about limited space which seems with the price

  • @brendanmurphy5081
    @brendanmurphy5081 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What would you say is the best unit for a user that primarily uses a NAS for photos "Synology Photos"? Right now I have a "J" Series NAS and it is terribly slow at loading video and photos over the air. Is there a NAS that will load Synology photos much quicker?

  • @DDHDTV
    @DDHDTV 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:43 What do I do when I need to do it again? So I have filled all my 16TB drives on my 4 bay NAS. Now I need more. How do I continue? Just take one out and stick a new in? But that would make me loose files right?
    And as far as I understood, I can't even access the drive I removed from the NAS using something like a USB to SATA adapter, because it is in RAID.

  • @ivanmytube
    @ivanmytube 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s not justifiable to spend time learning, keep learning, maintain and keep it safe for one more OS (DSM 7.0) and thats wheat I feel after using a DS420+ for years. 1 GbE too slow and incompatible with Apple Photos.

  • @bdot0276
    @bdot0276 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I this video confirmed all of my purchases.
    I was going to get the DS423+ but decided to get a used DS920+ WITH 4 6TB (WD Red NAS) drives, 20GB RAM, 2 500GB NVMe drives, included for $850!
    Then I found a used DS218J for $100 and a used enterprise 12TB drive for $80, and I’m using that as my backup.
    Everything is working great!

  • @Bobbybobby1
    @Bobbybobby1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Were you just at Crow and Quill in Asheville, NC, or was that a look-a-like?

  • @howtoinvest4yourself241
    @howtoinvest4yourself241 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if in the future to fill the 4 bay and need to expand could you get the newest 4 bay or larger like a 8 bay and tie them together or migrate the data from (failed) drives to the new NAS? I wanna say yes this is very possible... the questions is there a recommendation for this process... also does the NAS allow for different sized and different types of hard drives? does it do its own type of RAID?

  • @pedroleitao1937
    @pedroleitao1937 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a specific model better to be used exclusively with an iPad or is a desktop (Mac in my case) better to use instead?

  • @crimcrammoo
    @crimcrammoo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i have a question about these. so since these hard drives essentially act as one giant hard drive. its it not possible to swap out hard drives as needed? like say i run of space on the drive and i want to replace it with a new one?

  • @danielketchelos
    @danielketchelos 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can I use 18tb Seagate Ironwolf Pro drives in the DS1821+ or is it limited to a max of 16tb per drive?

  • @MorganSullivan
    @MorganSullivan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 1st DS was the 413j with 4x4TB that became too small too soon.. The 2nd is (yes, still is) the 916+. I got it because I could add the expansion unit if needed, but I populated it with 4x8TB and still is just over half full.. And for what I do (media server over smb, backup and 1 lightweight docker) is enough.. Quite a bummer that you've discouraged the 9xx+ series..

  • @DarrellGrays
    @DarrellGrays หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a question.... I bought a Synology DS 418 a couple of years ago I use it mostly for File Storage and backup(Audio, Pictures, Videos, File Documents), just want to know if I should stay with this device or trade up?

  • @markshobbybench
    @markshobbybench 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm disappointed to hear you say you wouldn't recommend the 923+, but I think for my home needs it's fine.
    I'm recently new to NAS world. I was close to purchasing the DS1522+ but was concerned about it being 2022 model and want a more current model. I needed a place to store lots of photos and other data, as our Mac HD's were filling up. I purchase the 923+ and added (2) Synology 800GB SNV3410 NVMe M.2 2280 and (2) Synology RAM DDR4 ECC Unbuffered SODIMM 16GB, along with (4) Synology 12TB HAT3300 Plus Series SATA III 3.5" Internal NAS HDD setup as a RAID5. I followed a number of your videos for first-time setup and created a number of shared folders. All seems to be working well. My 923+ is currently at 2.4GB used with 29TB free. I've also setup the Time Machine Backups of three Mac's to the NAS, and thats working just fine.
    Now I need to determine what size UPS I need and a cloud based backup for the NAS, which I find difficult to do.

    • @MrFloRolf
      @MrFloRolf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I sold my family to the idea of a NAS as well, set one up for them and then used it for myself as an offsite backup :D They are happy to get financial aid with it and you get your OWN backup.

    • @traolin5877
      @traolin5877 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well he did mention he recommends the 5 bay for small businesses instead in that part. I’m also surprised he said no the the 923+ . That part sounded like he was considering the small business and forgot the homelab user. I’m still gonna grab a 923+ this holiday season

  • @aasaistar13
    @aasaistar13 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    which better ds 723+ or ds 223j or ds224+ or ds423+ ??? (photos, videos only - house)

  • @Adam-hy6hm
    @Adam-hy6hm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It always comes down to money. In Australia a 16Tb drive is $600 each plus a ds423+ is $800. So you’re looking at $2000 which is a large investment for the majority of home based people

    • @PatrickDKing
      @PatrickDKing 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow! Here 18TB often go for $260-$290. You need an international friend that will go pick some up and ship them to you.

    • @iShriek
      @iShriek 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Australian dollars is not worth as much as US dollars.@@PatrickDKing

    • @aopen130
      @aopen130 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel you. Regional price for the 16TB here is also around $600 USD. Imagine getting the 5-bay NAS 😢

  • @jennifermedia6288
    @jennifermedia6288 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is it worth getting a Synology DX517 expansion or just invest in a second unit

  • @SiEffen
    @SiEffen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been running a DS216+ii for the last 7 years and been solid, although when DSM7 came out the 1GB RAM wasn't sufficient. I can't believe they still sell systems with only 1GB RAM! £20 spend on a 8GB module and it's good again. My question is, as a basic fileserver is there any mileage in updating to a newer equivalent model e.g. DS224+. 2 bays totally fine for my use case. Interesting that most equivalent systems will only go to a total of 6GB RAM although my 8GB doesn't see any stress!

  • @hisashime
    @hisashime 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I did make the newbie mistake of filling up all the bay when purchasing a 4 bay synology. Do you think it is possible to directly swap all the hard disk from a 4 bay Synology to a 5 or 6 bay Synology without any setup?

  • @erikferguson5314
    @erikferguson5314 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only the Synology plus (+) models have active backup for business. I purchased a DS223J and in hindsight wish that I had spent a little more and purchased a plus (+) model. Active backup for business gives you the ability to backup a PC to your synology. For my personal home use case it seems a lot simpler to back up my PC to the synology than storing the files on the synology and accessing them on my PC.

  • @FreedomToRoam86
    @FreedomToRoam86 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My 920+ w the extra Ram rocks, still! Of course. If buying today, I’d get the faster networking ones

  • @daviddixon8028
    @daviddixon8028 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a DS412+ that I wished had DSM 7 support. Should I use that or keep it as a backup destination machine?
    I have a ds200j which is super slow for backups...takes like 7 to 10 days for 15GB. I can't even access the web interface when this happens...thinking about getting rid of it and use a mini pc(truenas scale) + DAS.

  • @dobrzpe
    @dobrzpe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    it's funny - the DS923+ is *PERFECT* for me...

  • @fabianw2k
    @fabianw2k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Currently looking to NAS so I can store all of my design projects safely.

  • @samhillebrand
    @samhillebrand 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would have been nice if you analyzed more NAS than just Synology. i.e. best starter NAS among top three brands or something similar.

  • @WillJauregui
    @WillJauregui 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    for someone wanting to edit video directly off the nas, is 4gb ram enough? also, do you not recommend using expansion units? are they going to slow down overall performance?

    • @fespadea8263
      @fespadea8263 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I don't know if there's a hit to performance, but he's mentioned before that the expansion units simply aren't worth the price, so you shouldn't really consider them when buying the NAS.

    • @WillJauregui
      @WillJauregui 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fespadea8263 ahh ok

  • @EnzoRacer1
    @EnzoRacer1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After 9 (!) years of using DS214play I was ready to buy DS423+...but I'll wait another 1-2 years hoping for LAN 2,5 Gbps instead 1Gbps

  • @JelleRuben
    @JelleRuben 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4 or 5 bay is for me over done, So I go for the DS723+

  • @mistertwo6113
    @mistertwo6113 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You've been recommending the 923+ all year! Even just a month ago! LOL

  • @vladimirmanuel776
    @vladimirmanuel776 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any recommendation on what nvme m.2 and 16 gb RAM to use for SYNOLOGY DS1821+

  • @shaunkonchit
    @shaunkonchit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am stuck between 423+ and 923+ my use case is basically photo management and backup from ios device along with running plex. I am leaning towards 423+ but most of my playing is direct. I doubt I will be doing anything fancy like running docker containers so in light of that 423+ might be best for me? I just dont want a slow/bad experience.

  • @ChiefSteve1337
    @ChiefSteve1337 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey, first of all, I love your content. Probably would have never considered a NAS without you. Now to my question: I use the DS720+ with 2 8 TB drives and don't have any problems with it, but if I really need more space in the future, would you recommend the 5 bay expansion unit or should I sell the NAS and get something like the DS923+?

    • @timotmon
      @timotmon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Why not upgrade the hard drives? I have two 18tb drives in my DS720+ and walmart online has those drives heavily discounted right now.

    • @Loady420
      @Loady420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@timotmonnice I only have 2 4TB drives in my 720+. Seems like it’s popular model.

    • @ChiefSteve1337
      @ChiefSteve1337 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@timotmon I'm from germany, we don't have walmart, but I see your point. That might be a solution at first, but hypothetically, better upgrading overall or the expansion unit? Never saw Will recommend the expansion unit, so maybe it is generally not the best investment.

    • @timotmon
      @timotmon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChiefSteve1337 Yeah I don't know, that 5 bay expansion unit sort of negates the purpose of having a small footprint device like the 720+. Obviously when you run out of bays you'll need more one way or the other but personally I'd rather just upgrade to a 4-Bay and sell my 720. In the end I think it just comes down to preference. I did hear from somewhere the expansion unit has loud fans and even if you have just one drive in there you're kind of dealing with a unit that's trying to cool 5 bays. Something to think about.

    • @timotmon
      @timotmon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Loady420 It's great especially if you do plex transcoding. I also noticed that they're holding their value too. I think 920+ and the 720+ have the best intel CPU's You can find inside these things before they switched to Ryzen.

  • @leftywhat
    @leftywhat 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wouldn't discount the DS223. It has 2GB ram, which is a requirement for Hybrid Share (storage to C2 cloud). This is what we're looking at getting for small office/work. Not sure there's any point in a 4 bay if we're using Hyperbackup to Ext USB HDD, plus Hybrid Share to C2 Cloud? Hdds are getting quite large and we don't use much data (~1TB). At one point, was thinking just do Raid 0 (say 300MB/s), but 1Gbps lan (125MB/s) doesn't make sense, as you cannot take any advantage of that and now there's double the chance of all data loss / hdd failure. Neither does using SHR with a 2 bay system *IF* we've got USB Hyperbackup + C2 Cloud Hybrid Share, as I assume if the HDD dies (basic - not shr), then we'd just connect directly to C2 Hybrid Cloud, until the HDD is replaced and cached back to the NAS. So might just start with 1x 'basic' pool, and when needed add a second hdd as basic on a different pool, so it allows for future storage expansion if needed (unlike SHR on a 2 bay)

  • @azwb
    @azwb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I purchased the 1522+ _ I thought they would release a 1524 with a video transcoder chip as the perk. So far still waiting. Liking the unit so far. I thought I would be into all the apps, but so far not. Maybe some videos on those apps??? Also I did (3) SSD Drives on it thinking that the Noise of HHD would be loud. The SSD failed within a month and was able to return. The 12TB Iron Pros ($220 at the time) are great, a little noise every now and again, but not as redonk as everyone was stating. Also when I do my blackmagic on them it states that I'm getting 750MB/Writes and 450MB/Reads - That seems high.