Dagoth Ur: The Full Story of A False God - Elder Scrolls Lore
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- Today, we delve into the story of this powerful heretic and how he managed to condemn his own divinity.
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"A False God" What a grand and intoxicating innocence
beat me to it
It certainly doesn’t honor the Sixth House and the Tribe Unmourned.
I love Dagoth's story and how confusing and conflicting the accounts are. Even if Dagoth is telling the truth that he loved Nerevar and protected the tools at all costs, it hardly matters. He'd become a madman and a terror that needed to be stop.
It makes him a very tragic character, imo. His death is a bitter reward for his loyalty.
His death is the ultimate price of extremism, no matter what the motives.
Well put. He was Nerevar's most loyal companion, but ultimately went mad after the betrayal.
Awsome stuff. Xith I found you through your most recent colab with imperial knowledge
Back in the 90s there was a D&D type game on AOL (Neverwinter Nights) and a group of guys where playing a campaign where a certain Dagoth Ur achieved godhood. I played a paladin and was target of their ridicule, although I'm the real mad man mocking the god, Fa-goth Dur! They'd tried so hard to make fun of me, they laughed, I laughed, they got pissed, I laughed harder.
I even adopted the name Dagoth, because I'm the real mad god, lord of laughter, sir Laughsalot haha I didn't make into TES though... "I am the jester in my own court, for I am the mad king who rules all! Bow before me so I can hop over you!"
the gods and fate are cruel
This guy uses Dagoth Ur's real voice lines so its objectively better than Fudgemuppet's
Thanks for the compliment, but the lads over at Fudgemuppet really try their hardest as well.
@@thexith its good to see youtubers refusing to bash one another. Not enough have that respect.
@@wyattbottorff2473 respect is gay
@@jordandennis6794 You definitely take it from behind
What do you mean by the real voice lines? What are the ones used in FudgeMuppet's?
I loved Dagoth Ur. I wanted to join him when I entered the Sixth House base and heard his voice. He sounded so cool. Praise be to the Sixth House and the tribe unmourned!
Beautiful documentary, as it were. While I don't hold the same rose-colored glasses a lot of Elder Scrolls fans hold about Morrowind, it was a great game for its time and you have to admit the lore keeping in the game was absolutely top notch. I love how, just like in the real world, some things about history are lost to the sands of time, like what really happened to the first Nerevar. You also get this feeling that everyone you talk to who claims to have knowledge of what went down are lying to you in some way, to suit their own ends. Again, just like you would get in our world, especially when it comes to religious matters.
I love the sociological and philosophic approach you took in this comment, the same approach which ultimately made me to create this video; showcasing how easily someone's perception can either be tainted or maybe even falsely elevated. I've always been so fascinated with the outcome of the second Battle of Red Mountain, lines were intensely blurred and the victor most probably wrote a distorted version of events. Nearly all sources(except the Temples Heirographa) point to the fact that Nerevar was initially murdered by the Tribunal, this explains why Sotha Sil's mental health heavily declined - his legacy was built upon a foundation of betrayal and untold horrors, he even claimed so himself. I myself never really enjoyed the gameplay Morrowind had to offer as well, but Morrowinds lore only struck me as beautifully intricate a year ago, for I had dug through some Tribunal lore for an anonymous source. Once I delved into it more, I honestly think it might harbour one of the best and most rewarding fractions of Elder Scrolls Lore, it definitely ranks with Martin Septim manifesting himself into an aspect of Akatosh. The Chimer were a magnificent race, they were the first race to devote themselves to proficient Daedric Princes, princes which cared for them as the Aedra would for their Shezzarines. Fictional history usually never strikes me emotionally, but imagining Nerevar's reign, and Azura's devotion crumble into bits and pieces by the hands of their own product is disheartening to say the least. Loved your comment, and thank you for leaving it. An even better video on Sotha Sil is incoming, stay tuned.
Dagoth is a tragic character. It’s a shame things had to go the way they did. But he had to be stopped.
Damn Kagrenac. And most of all, Damn the tribunal. They are the true villains.
Although the Tribunal are to blame, the Dwemer shouldn't have even dreamed of tinkering with the heart in the first place. Power and corruption immediately became drawn to it after Kagrenac's tampering. Thank you for the comment
@@thexith Kagrenac never cared about the gods, the Dwemers chimes allies, morality, or anyone or anything but himself and his race (arguably he may have hardly even cared about his race as a whole considering how much risk he was willing to put them at).
And a lot of people, including Dagoth and his entire race for his selfish and foolish desires.
I honestly think from his perspective Dagoth did no wrong. He tried to have the tools destroyed, and when they weren't he protected them faithfully. When his best friend was murdered by his closest friends, it likely made him vengeful and slowly go mad. But to his mind the disease he's spreading is enlightenment and his goals are to rid Morrowind of those who murdered his best friend and the empire who subjugates them. It's not that he's evil, he's simply deluded.
He is the hero Morrowind deserves
Most villains of history believed that they did no wrong.
Casting aspersions and poisoning the well with the title. A false god? That would be the tribunal
Damn, FudgeMuppet stole your idea.......
Total coincidence on mine and scotts part, I was already finishing up my video when Scott informed twitter he was making one as well. Had me laughing out loud
@@thexith dont be foolish, they sToLe it from you! Lets copystrike 'em
@@bloodydunmeri aight fam u assemble the legal team I'll be the face of this cruel copyright strike attack!
man i was in detention when this came out
I hope you watched this during detention 😂
A year late but thank your for this excellent break down of my favorite character from my favorite game. His fall from justification to dangerous madman is captivating
Thank you so much!
what a grand and intoxicating innocence
Dagoth Ur...a great chara. great vid.
Thank you!
Dagoth Ur's pronunciation is NOT subjective. He SAYS his own name in game!
Was much easier for me to pronounce it the way I did due to my accent, my apologies if it irked you
@@thexith I'm very satisfied with this, thank you, thought it might have to be something to do with that
When someone makes a video about Dagoth Ur I CHIM so fucking hard.
Dagoth memes are super popular these days lol
discovered you on my recomendations today! earned a new sub my friend, i really enjoy videos like these and I'm sure I'll enjoy your content :D
What he could not achieve in game he has achieved in real life through the help of AI memes a cult of personality has formed around our misunderstood god and the Sixth House and Tribe Unmourned and has transcended our mortality and chim to an undefinable and unending state of Godhood that to even comprehend a modicum of its magnificence would break the mind of even the most devout so put some respect on that name, N'wah!
Pronunciation is wrong. He says his own name. Too distracting to continue watching.
How would Azura's curse be deserved? Lol! A whole race got deformed, that's not acceptable
You're right to an extent. Their punishment was grave and came with repercussions for the entire Chimer race. Now, not saying I agree, but Azura punished the entire Chimer race because their representatives(the Tribunal), committed an unspeakable act. Azura wanted them to feel the pain their greed caused the Chimer, and to remind them of her everytime they looked at their followers.
Given how the Mer view Lorkhan, them attaining godhood through his heart was the ultimate betrayal to all Mer and also an insult to the deadra. One tempts not the spoils of Shors blessing while walking the land of the living, only honored dead of men whose souls have passed the veils of aetherius.
im watching this as im trying to beat Dagoth at level 1
Holy shit you're adventurous, tell me how it went
Xith I walked over to red mountain made my way all the way down to the final chamber and got my shit caved in abt 50 times
Really nice work on this video! Love to see the appreciation the elder scrolls community has for Dagoth Ur. I've always wondered if tapping into the heart fundamentally changed the person doing it, or if it magnified more subtle character traits (egotism, delusion, paranoia, etc) to unprecedented levels. The question being: was Voryn Dagoth driven mad by the tools and the heart, or was he already a bit of a madman to begin with and becoming a demi-god gave credence to any existing delusions and paranoia?
Even during the making of this video I tried to approach the topic of Dagoth and his shift in mentality with less bias than most people, mostly because there's just something about the interaction he has with the Nerevarine in TES3 that makes me question the picture that the Tribunal painted. I think the heart just magnified certain traits to a point where he was infatuated by the guise of infinite knowledge; this undoubtedly bred his need for totalitarian control so that he can also feed his lust for knowledge and further divinity.
@@thexith Vivec,in the "Sermons of Vivec," through cipher admits that his mortal self, Vehk, did murder lord Indoril.
The actions of Almalexia in the Clockwork City also point toward this, not to mention the cursing of the Dwemer. If they loved Indoril so, why did they not fulfill his wishes? 🤔
"It was Sotha Sil who was able to delve the mysteries of Kagrenac's tools, and raise me to *my rightful station*."
"Once, Sotha Sil was like we are, the Lord Vivec and I. He spent time among these mortals, instructing them, counseling them, protecting them from harm. He may have loved them more than any of us, though I know not why."
-Almalexia, murderer of Sotha-Sil and conspirator in the death of Indoril Nerevar
I thought Ash Vampires were made directly from Dagoth Ur himself.
THE MASK WHAT DOES THE MASK MEAN WHY IS HE NAKED!
he's getting down and dirty with the heart of lorkhan 😩
Too many assumptions based on Tribunal propaganda.
I covered every assumption of Nerevar's death and concluded that it was the Tribunal that murdered him, but the official writings state otherwise, tribunal propaganda or not. Hope you enjoyed the video!
is this how you honor the sixth house and the tribe unmourned?
A false god?
How could you be so naive!
What I'm curious about is ..the actor who voices dagoth, is the same actor who voices the " dads" and fallout 3 in Andale
Fricking nice
12/10 I didn't know shit about Dagoth Ur before and now I know he is a fuccd dude
Not as fuccd as the Tribunal for murdering Nerevar boi
The beginning gave me goosebumps
How dare you even suggest such a thing? That he's a "false god"? Is this how you honour the sixth house and the tribes unmourned?
What a grand and intoxicating innocence thinking he's a false god😂
The only false thing here is your mother. Praise Dagoth
Is there none that remembers Dagoth Ur from a 90s D&D type game on AOL? Or maybe I met the person who created Dagoth Ur. This dude played Dagoth Ur in that D&D type game with some others and they had achieved godhood. Later on Dagoth Ur was a god in TES... yet that's not the first game with Dagoth Ur... to my knowledge atleast.
I've been using the nickname Dagoth for diablo 1 and shit, because the mad god is dope af. Also person who played Dagoth Ur on AOL was a total dick who hated my guts, always trying to bully me, so I figured I'd steal his name to remind myself, I am the real mad god. I played a paladin, always getting shit from evil players, no clue what my original name was because I embraced the madness. Fa-goth Dur!
Dagoth, the mad god, the lord of laughter, sir laughsalot.
don't you mean hero not villain
My favorite game! It plays amazing on Series X
I still think Dagoth Ur wasn't wholly evil
Neither do I, the ending sequence was just me attempting to write his downfall artistically. There are a lot of indicators that some of his actions were justifiable, but on the other hand - totalitarian dominance by using the Akulakhan to conquer Tamriel and indoctrinate future generations isn't really the best look. His Demi-Gods were Ash Vampires, and the way he went about his business was rather savage and barbaric. I just presented all of the possible sides that contributed to his rage-fueled return, whether that included Tribunal propaganda or not. I also still believe Nerevar never even fought Dagoth in the chamber of the Heart, I strongly believe the Tribunal took his life after they did their deed with Nerevar on the slope/peak of Red Mountain, that is whilst Dagoth was guarding the tools in the Chamber below.
@@thexith I also think The Tribunal killed Dagoth
Dude I cannot unsee a swastika on your profile pic.
Noooo we're not turning this into a thing hahahahah
Lots of tribunal propaganda.
How could they be so naive
DAGOTH yUR outta here !!! 😂
Nice channel dude just discovered you
Thanks so much for the support
Bro you need to work on your pronunciations! Ur would be like ugh in english. Next Vvardenfell has only 1 (one) V in it's pronunciation.
Thanks for the constructive comment. I've definitely improved in regards to that.
Ur...its ur.....its easy? Ur...you said it right the first dozen times and all of a sudden used yer..and no...its not yer...imperial knowledge has better pronunciation and he's terrible lol
Good content. Enjoy the subscription.
Thank you very much kind sir.