“When your arms are slightly bent, your fingers are stronger”: this just isn’t true for a lot of folks, some people are stronger on a straight arm, especially people with very long arms
if we look at the vast majority of climbers, they can engage their fingers better with a slight bend in their arms. Engage as in "pull" harder. It is true, some climbers can hang better with a straight arm but if we want to exert force then a straight arm is not optimal because if you pull with a straight arm you're just puling with the shoulder and lats. Vs pulling with a bent arm which incorporates the arms as well, more muscles being use will generally lead to more force. I won't deny that some climbers do hang better on a straight vs bent arm position. But in my experience, most climbers hang better off the hangboard with a bent arm especially when doing one arm hangs. Those that can't usually just have poor lockoff strength
@ right, weaker lockoff strength and long arms usually go hand in hand, and that’s the biggest contributor to what position you find easiest. My point is if your advice is to beginner or the general climber then it’s probably not right to assume that most of them have substantial lockoff strength that they’ll find the bent arm position easier. At least from my experience it varies a fair amount, just like some people preferring 3fd or crimped positions based on their finger morphology
@@soccutd77yeah but this video is about improving your strength. A person with long arms that hangs more comfortably with a straight arm is lacking the strength to engage the bicep and shoulder for a slight bend. When they gain the strength required, there will be an increase in power as they are able to engage a larger group of muscles. At the same time, this leaves efficiency out of the discussion. Even the strongest person in the world will hang more efficiently the fewer muscles they use, but concentrating that effort in the fingers rather than distributing it across more muscles might not be the best method for powerful moves. I also could be wrong, but love this guy for mentality and drive!
This might not be true for a very niche set of people who have very strong fingers and very weak arms, but for the overwhelming majority of people it is true
@ he’s talking about beta here not strength. Also “when they gain the strength required” is not really a guarantee: look at Allison vest or benn wheeler. Some really insanely strong athletes that are just stronger on straight arms because they have big positive ape indices.
@@ChengisAlwaysClimbing just a curious climber man, no hate. just wondering cuz its pretty scary to misinform/ give faulty ideas to people that have no idea whether you know what you're talking about. also, if you have the proper knowledge and background, it makes you more trustworthy. hope this helps
@@ChengisAlwaysClimbing You said a few things that really got me thinking and I eventually realized I couldn’t keep up with the video. Too much good stuff to unpack. Had to rewatch. Your qualifications are self evident. 😀
@@aaryabhatt4581 Bruh he climbs like v10/11. Your comment comes off as aggressive, and makes you sound like a douche bag. Ask the question in a better way next time.
“Am I too weak, or just dumb…” 😂
You gave it clearly some thoughts, good effort and thanks for sharing this
I feel the unlock of "grit out an extra second of don't fall" is so good. Its a belief builder!
Always appreciate a Peaky Blinders reference when learning about climbing
I really liked the 10s static before and after rule! It seems like a good rules of thumb
Just don't let go. Simple! Good tips.
Surprising good advice from a random small channel
good video for me > a beginner.
thanks, i like your style of climbing, keep going with this :)
hope it helps ya
Good stuff.
I am too weak *and* just dumb
time to get stronger then
@@ChengisAlwaysClimbing Working on it!
“When your arms are slightly bent, your fingers are stronger”: this just isn’t true for a lot of folks, some people are stronger on a straight arm, especially people with very long arms
if we look at the vast majority of climbers, they can engage their fingers better with a slight bend in their arms. Engage as in "pull" harder. It is true, some climbers can hang better with a straight arm but if we want to exert force then a straight arm is not optimal because if you pull with a straight arm you're just puling with the shoulder and lats. Vs pulling with a bent arm which incorporates the arms as well, more muscles being use will generally lead to more force.
I won't deny that some climbers do hang better on a straight vs bent arm position. But in my experience, most climbers hang better off the hangboard with a bent arm especially when doing one arm hangs. Those that can't usually just have poor lockoff strength
@ right, weaker lockoff strength and long arms usually go hand in hand, and that’s the biggest contributor to what position you find easiest. My point is if your advice is to beginner or the general climber then it’s probably not right to assume that most of them have substantial lockoff strength that they’ll find the bent arm position easier. At least from my experience it varies a fair amount, just like some people preferring 3fd or crimped positions based on their finger morphology
@@soccutd77yeah but this video is about improving your strength. A person with long arms that hangs more comfortably with a straight arm is lacking the strength to engage the bicep and shoulder for a slight bend. When they gain the strength required, there will be an increase in power as they are able to engage a larger group of muscles.
At the same time, this leaves efficiency out of the discussion. Even the strongest person in the world will hang more efficiently the fewer muscles they use, but concentrating that effort in the fingers rather than distributing it across more muscles might not be the best method for powerful moves.
I also could be wrong, but love this guy for mentality and drive!
This might not be true for a very niche set of people who have very strong fingers and very weak arms, but for the overwhelming majority of people it is true
@ he’s talking about beta here not strength. Also “when they gain the strength required” is not really a guarantee: look at Allison vest or benn wheeler. Some really insanely strong athletes that are just stronger on straight arms because they have big positive ape indices.
what makes you qualified to give advice to people?
what makes you qualified to ask me questions?
@@ChengisAlwaysClimbingdamn u tell them 😂
@@ChengisAlwaysClimbing just a curious climber man, no hate. just wondering cuz its pretty scary to misinform/ give faulty ideas to people that have no idea whether you know what you're talking about. also, if you have the proper knowledge and background, it makes you more trustworthy. hope this helps
@@ChengisAlwaysClimbing You said a few things that really got me thinking and I eventually realized I couldn’t keep up with the video. Too much good stuff to unpack. Had to rewatch. Your qualifications are self evident. 😀
@@aaryabhatt4581 Bruh he climbs like v10/11. Your comment comes off as aggressive, and makes you sound like a douche bag. Ask the question in a better way next time.