Helldivers doesnt take itself seriously, its just that it knows what it is and revels in it rather than being embarassed and hiding behind lampshading and marvel-esque writing
Because drama and grifting pushes more views and engagement. The internet thrives off negativity best thing to do is ignore it, sure there is helpful constructive criticism out there but these days it feels like a dim a dozen with all the mindless hate...
Ngl I loled hard when I looked up this video, as a former destiny 2 player i started playing helldivers a few weeks ago since i got simply bored and annoyed by destiny at this point, hearing your voice in my current goto game again was really nice, only to look at it being released 8 hours ago and i was like "well that's random" 😅 keep up the good work in not only destiny but diving into other games once in a while, you qnd Byf are literally the two people i enjoy most listening to the stories and backgrounds of games
Just want you to know they didn't reverse their decision. Countries that don't have PSN can't buy Helldivers 2 through Steam. If they owned the game prior, sure, they can play it ,but they're still gatekeeping any potential new players from those countries.
Thier decision was to make every pc player to link account. They didnt moved forward with this= they reversed thier decision. True, its not FULL reverse but it was enough for people to not completly abandon the game. I wish we have everyone in the galactic war, every blockedcountry and Xbox too.
The game is super healthy and didn’t fall at all… I mean it’s not as populated as at launch given Sonys mess up, but people act like it’s dead… there is at least a hundred thousand players online at any given time of the day, which is very good for a small studio game. It’s more players than any Ubisoft title has probably. Also the devs have taken a more healthy way of pushing out content so in my opinion the game is way better now!
Yea, the community manager who proposed review bombing was laid off by sony. Community farewelld him in literal flowers on reddit and discord... Thats the dedication!!!
You keep saying Destiny 2 like it's actually relevant now...... the only people that think that game is still relevant are the content creators who refuse to admit that game, and Bungie are no longer what they used to be.
Got the Killzone gear recently and my friends and I have been dropping in constantly with it equipped. If it ever returns, I'm getting the cape since it looks super cool, same with the helmet. There's also another gear set that I've referred to as the "Jin-Roh set" since it was clearly inspired by the movie judging by the German-looking helmet. I still gotta watch it but i heard its good
The one thing I disagree with is that he’s acting like it’s dying, like yeah sure, player counts are dropping but that’s not death, real fans keep playing. Like I was playing the original game in 2021. Just a timeless masterpiece. Oh and I also disagree with the silly cosmetic things, euhhh discussing bad I love Helldivers mostly for its immersion and I can’t be immersed if there’s a dude running round with a bobble head But I do want like weapon camos to grind like in COD, that would be cool
wasn't it confirmed that the steam page *didn't* say you would *need* to connect a psn account and was instead something they added when they started getting back lash, also confirmed on their website for the game saying it was optional, which was later also changed?
The website is true, but steam always said it needed 3rd party account linking. The only thing was the notification of that account linking was buried at the bottom of the steam page so it was easy to miss. The game also had an in game pop up notifying of account linking, but after 3 days or so it was removed by Arrowhead who wanted to focus on server issues.
You were correct Evan, Sony is investing into Helldivers. It's just gonna take the form of a movie instead, no 4th faction or weapon customization for you
Here's why I don't think Gelldivers will die, even if the content updates are haltet or even stop. There is a game called Deep Rock Galactic, which is pretty similar in how it works. Both have guns, both have generative content. While the rest is a bit different, both are fantastic games where the updates never cost a dime and you never have to spend more than for the game itself. And DRG still has many dedicated players, same as games like Battlefront. So why wouldn't Helldivers
8:18 There's only so many variations of Illuminate missions you can play before you become bored again. This just isn't sustainable, and the player counts will drop again. And you can't just continue to make new factions
If it wasn’t ps5 locked it would’ve peaked even further all my friends who had Xbox wanted to buy it and one on pc just bought a £70 game and didn’t want to spend money on it
Dont agree with the crazy skins at all, one of the great things about helldivers is that it takes itself seriously enough for the Universe to feel believable, even if it is a clear satire. I'd argue something more like weapon levels with unlockable attachments would be a better fit.
I really dont understand how you're calling a satire of sci-fi facism/homage to the starship troopers movie a serious tone, but this is otherwise a very fun video for a fun game
I don't believe Helldivers ever fell, there was a minority of squeakers and whiners that got butthurt because every miniscule aspect of the game wasn't tailor made for them and polished to perfection. Then there was a group of individuals that stopped playing to make a point of dissatisfaction with the game's state, the latter half handled the situation well and got through to AH.
I think he's probably just talking about the player numbers since they dropped hard before the recent update. Dropped even lower than destiny 2 if that says anything atm 🤣
@tri-thagoras4823 Before the update they were pretty consistent and steady, it's before the weapon balance update that they dropped at an all time low.
Man i lije your videos, but can we stop with this delusional and simply incorrect narrative by many youtubers and Reddit that ah nerfed everything strong and didn't buff weak weapons? Cos if you read patch notes in most of them were more buffs than nerfs(and enemies became weaker too). Most weapons were stronger than release version long before buffdivers patch. Sure ah made some really stupid nerfs, released weak weapons with no place in meta or didnt buff incredible weak options for far too long but thats another story
If you waited a little longer you could have added another "fall" to the end of the title. These Devs don't know how to appeal to the community quickly enough. It takes monumental Negative P.R to make them shift, which is weird considering their c.e.o seems very active with the community.
I think Sony is primarily what caused this game to fall off. On PlayStation it's terrible! Not only do you have to pay $40 for the game up front, but you also need to pay for a monthly PS+ sub just to boot up the game. So if you're just buying it now that's like $52 to play a game for a month. And for a year It's almost double that. So it begs the question in my opinion: Why play a game that you have to pay almost a hundred bucks for just to play for a year, when you can spend $30 now and play POE2 forever? Or you can spend nothing and download and play Warframe for free. So yeah, I blame Sony for this. Also, real quick: No PVP. I hated PVP in Destiny because people always found a way to exploit it and ruin the fun. I can imagine that being done tenfold here. And I know you Destiny players really like Goofy skins as well. no... Well.. Although having a big goofy dinosaur head in this game might actually be funny. Now that I think about it.
A lot of people seem to have selectively removed the bad memories from last year. Guys, the game fell off. Ain't no way that a 400k steam start dipping from 50k in 6 months is anything but. The balance was shit, difficulty was all over the place with each new update, our favorite guns were being treated like Ubisoft specialists and guns (nerf or nothing), and the game went through pretty significant periods of content droughts. This game is still to this day, held together by tape and a prayer to god with its servers and performance, and one wrong move like the recent Killzone collab, is basically all it takes to piss off people because of how fragile the relationship between the community and devs really is. Sony's meddling isn't the only major reason the game's population fell off.
Arrowhead absolutely wanted and supported the account linking, it was an integral part of thier anti cheat and ban system, that's why the game doesn't really have one. Evidence is out there, Arrowhead is a shit company and the devs are trash.
i mean that title perfectly encapsulates the scummy game jornolist on youtube today... Which I didn't think you were agames jornoplist or covered Hell Divers at all... Like hell divers 2 has had a normal post launch life for any game even TT games... Of any A grade too... Like yes the Devs VS players balkciunjg tug oif war happened... But that was fun and completely with in that game studio dev style they have in He;ll diver 1 too... Which today most people believe the myth that games can only be equally balnced and that is only hjow all games can be balcned and fair... So the devs trying it despite alot of players knowing better isn't a big deal... I mean COD devs are all terrible at balancing all COD modes so like how is the hell diver 2 devs don't perfectly fine balancing bad again? Like it wasn't perfect first time balcning but that is just unreasonable... Like battefeild only had that with classes ina few ganmes because perfect balcne for any given game or mode is abn interprocess always is and always will be... Like you can get close first try buit there is always better then good enough you should try to get... So yeah Hell divers 2 has had a completely normal life all games should strive to at least be... So yeah wjhiny about it not being Halo 3 is just being spoiled and completely unreasnble...
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Helldivers don’t fall….. they dive.
Feet first into hell.
Bars
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peak
I’ve doven and I can’t get up!
Helldivers doesnt take itself seriously, its just that it knows what it is and revels in it rather than being embarassed and hiding behind lampshading and marvel-esque writing
Unless Sony removes the country restrictions, Helldivers 2 will never go back to those numbers.
I don’t get why people say the game fell off. Even at its lowest helldivers had tons of players
Because drama and grifting pushes more views and engagement. The internet thrives off negativity best thing to do is ignore it, sure there is helpful constructive criticism out there but these days it feels like a dim a dozen with all the mindless hate...
When you dip from 400k to 50k in half a year, something clearly went wrong. The game was in a shit state, dude. It did fall off.
@@troypowers750 the important word is "did", we will recover and still have fun
Ironically, I wait longer post Illuminate to join a group than I did even pre 60 day plan buff rrelease.
@@HavingCrumpets we did recover up to 80k concurrent, but problems still remain.
We either dive together or we don't dive at all!
Ngl I loled hard when I looked up this video, as a former destiny 2 player i started playing helldivers a few weeks ago since i got simply bored and annoyed by destiny at this point, hearing your voice in my current goto game again was really nice, only to look at it being released 8 hours ago and i was like "well that's random" 😅 keep up the good work in not only destiny but diving into other games once in a while, you qnd Byf are literally the two people i enjoy most listening to the stories and backgrounds of games
Never fell off
Imagine if we get SPACE COMBAT in the same vein as Star Wars Battlefront 2 (OG PS2 Version) in Helldivers.
I would lose my friggin' MIND.
There are star wars mods for helldivers
Just want you to know they didn't reverse their decision. Countries that don't have PSN can't buy Helldivers 2 through Steam. If they owned the game prior, sure, they can play it ,but they're still gatekeeping any potential new players from those countries.
I believe they're currently trying to fix that situation now that a PSN account isn't required anymore to play
Thier decision was to make every pc player to link account. They didnt moved forward with this= they reversed thier decision.
True, its not FULL reverse but it was enough for people to not completly abandon the game.
I wish we have everyone in the galactic war, every blockedcountry and Xbox too.
@@chelsthegameruiner8669 If they do, they are talking thier sweet time with this one...
Helldivers 2 is the only game that comes close too cinematic gameplay like BF1
The game is super healthy and didn’t fall at all… I mean it’s not as populated as at launch given Sonys mess up, but people act like it’s dead… there is at least a hundred thousand players online at any given time of the day, which is very good for a small studio game. It’s more players than any Ubisoft title has probably. Also the devs have taken a more healthy way of pushing out content so in my opinion the game is way better now!
I still play almost daily, LVL 136, the game is getting better and better 🎉
Im just happy to watch more of our Videos my dude! Not a fan of CoD, but watched all your Destiny back in the day.
Crazy how arrowhead stood up to Sony, would be nice if bungie did the same
Yea, the community manager who proposed review bombing was laid off by sony.
Community farewelld him in literal flowers on reddit and discord... Thats the dedication!!!
You keep saying Destiny 2 like it's actually relevant now...... the only people that think that game is still relevant are the content creators who refuse to admit that game, and Bungie are no longer what they used to be.
Got the Killzone gear recently and my friends and I have been dropping in constantly with it equipped. If it ever returns, I'm getting the cape since it looks super cool, same with the helmet.
There's also another gear set that I've referred to as the "Jin-Roh set" since it was clearly inspired by the movie judging by the German-looking helmet. I still gotta watch it but i heard its good
The one thing I disagree with is that he’s acting like it’s dying, like yeah sure, player counts are dropping but that’s not death, real fans keep playing. Like I was playing the original game in 2021. Just a timeless masterpiece.
Oh and I also disagree with the silly cosmetic things, euhhh discussing bad
I love Helldivers mostly for its immersion and I can’t be immersed if there’s a dude running round with a bobble head
But I do want like weapon camos to grind like in COD, that would be cool
"Don't die!"
-Training manual tip
wasn't it confirmed that the steam page *didn't* say you would *need* to connect a psn account and was instead something they added when they started getting back lash, also confirmed on their website for the game saying it was optional, which was later also changed?
The website is true, but steam always said it needed 3rd party account linking. The only thing was the notification of that account linking was buried at the bottom of the steam page so it was easy to miss. The game also had an in game pop up notifying of account linking, but after 3 days or so it was removed by Arrowhead who wanted to focus on server issues.
Underrated video right here
Evan I think you want this game to feel more like destiny and I really hope it doesn’t become anything like it.
You were correct Evan, Sony is investing into Helldivers. It's just gonna take the form of a movie instead, no 4th faction or weapon customization for you
Does anyone else think Sony used the money that was planned for Concord’s TV series into developing the Helldiver’s movie🤔
This video felt very disjointed compared to other videos of yours.
Here's why I don't think Gelldivers will die, even if the content updates are haltet or even stop.
There is a game called Deep Rock Galactic, which is pretty similar in how it works. Both have guns, both have generative content. While the rest is a bit different, both are fantastic games where the updates never cost a dime and you never have to spend more than for the game itself. And DRG still has many dedicated players, same as games like Battlefront. So why wouldn't Helldivers
I love your videos, always a great watch :)
8:18 There's only so many variations of Illuminate missions you can play before you become bored again. This just isn't sustainable, and the player counts will drop again. And you can't just continue to make new factions
The Speedrunning Community is still sad that Commando can't 1 shot Fabricators...
If it wasn’t ps5 locked it would’ve peaked even further all my friends who had Xbox wanted to buy it and one on pc just bought a £70 game and didn’t want to spend money on it
Massive?
Low taper fadeeeeeeee
It would be cool to have guns match my outfits, hopefully not for real money
Having a dead engine may in long term may hold the game back
Dont agree with the crazy skins at all, one of the great things about helldivers is that it takes itself seriously enough for the Universe to feel believable, even if it is a clear satire.
I'd argue something more like weapon levels with unlockable attachments would be a better fit.
Why did it end so abruptly?
Bro forgot about the DSS
23:34 Holy shit traitor detected XD
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I really dont understand how you're calling a satire of sci-fi facism/homage to the starship troopers movie a serious tone, but this is otherwise a very fun video for a fun game
please. Please let me fix your audio.
half of the world is now forever blocked from buying the game, that probably has sth to do with the helldive of the chart
Fuck yeah evan
Oxford comma plz
I don't believe Helldivers ever fell, there was a minority of squeakers and whiners that got butthurt because every miniscule aspect of the game wasn't tailor made for them and polished to perfection. Then there was a group of individuals that stopped playing to make a point of dissatisfaction with the game's state, the latter half handled the situation well and got through to AH.
I think he's probably just talking about the player numbers since they dropped hard before the recent update. Dropped even lower than destiny 2 if that says anything atm 🤣
@tri-thagoras4823 Before the update they were pretty consistent and steady, it's before the weapon balance update that they dropped at an all time low.
Man i lije your videos, but can we stop with this delusional and simply incorrect narrative by many youtubers and Reddit that ah nerfed everything strong and didn't buff weak weapons? Cos if you read patch notes in most of them were more buffs than nerfs(and enemies became weaker too). Most weapons were stronger than release version long before buffdivers patch. Sure ah made some really stupid nerfs, released weak weapons with no place in meta or didnt buff incredible weak options for far too long but thats another story
If you waited a little longer you could have added another "fall" to the end of the title.
These Devs don't know how to appeal to the community quickly enough. It takes monumental Negative P.R to make them shift, which is weird considering their c.e.o seems very active with the community.
I think Sony is primarily what caused this game to fall off. On PlayStation it's terrible! Not only do you have to pay $40 for the game up front, but you also need to pay for a monthly PS+ sub just to boot up the game. So if you're just buying it now that's like $52 to play a game for a month. And for a year It's almost double that. So it begs the question in my opinion: Why play a game that you have to pay almost a hundred bucks for just to play for a year, when you can spend $30 now and play POE2 forever? Or you can spend nothing and download and play Warframe for free. So yeah, I blame Sony for this.
Also, real quick: No PVP. I hated PVP in Destiny because people always found a way to exploit it and ruin the fun. I can imagine that being done tenfold here. And I know you Destiny players really like Goofy skins as well. no... Well.. Although having a big goofy dinosaur head in this game might actually be funny. Now that I think about it.
Shit takes and hellwhining.
A lot of people seem to have selectively removed the bad memories from last year. Guys, the game fell off. Ain't no way that a 400k steam start dipping from 50k in 6 months is anything but. The balance was shit, difficulty was all over the place with each new update, our favorite guns were being treated like Ubisoft specialists and guns (nerf or nothing), and the game went through pretty significant periods of content droughts. This game is still to this day, held together by tape and a prayer to god with its servers and performance, and one wrong move like the recent Killzone collab, is basically all it takes to piss off people because of how fragile the relationship between the community and devs really is. Sony's meddling isn't the only major reason the game's population fell off.
Arrowhead absolutely wanted and supported the account linking, it was an integral part of thier anti cheat and ban system, that's why the game doesn't really have one. Evidence is out there, Arrowhead is a shit company and the devs are trash.
You sound rather bitter, not gonna lie
i mean that title perfectly encapsulates the scummy game jornolist on youtube today... Which I didn't think you were agames jornoplist or covered Hell Divers at all... Like hell divers 2 has had a normal post launch life for any game even TT games... Of any A grade too... Like yes the Devs VS players balkciunjg tug oif war happened... But that was fun and completely with in that game studio dev style they have in He;ll diver 1 too... Which today most people believe the myth that games can only be equally balnced and that is only hjow all games can be balcned and fair... So the devs trying it despite alot of players knowing better isn't a big deal... I mean COD devs are all terrible at balancing all COD modes so like how is the hell diver 2 devs don't perfectly fine balancing bad again? Like it wasn't perfect first time balcning but that is just unreasonable... Like battefeild only had that with classes ina few ganmes because perfect balcne for any given game or mode is abn interprocess always is and always will be... Like you can get close first try buit there is always better then good enough you should try to get... So yeah Hell divers 2 has had a completely normal life all games should strive to at least be... So yeah wjhiny about it not being Halo 3 is just being spoiled and completely unreasnble...
new content? you mean reskinned old content with a new price tag on it? game is boring asf
New price tag? Bro what u talkin abt all the updates are free and its easy to get currency in game😂
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All negativity is treated as treason by true representatives of managed democracy, liberty speed divers.
(Hit 150 last night, wish there were more ODST veterans defending Super Earth, thanks Sony 😡)