What a great idea to film outside as well as inside - we get to see the difference in the way they catch the light. Big relief to have a video that is sharp and can do good close ups. Also thanks for holding the watches steady so you can view them properly and for not waving them around like flags which drives me crazy. So tempted to buy one but concerned about the accuracy of the movement but you say it's quite accurate so might take a chance! Thanks again for great review.
The blue one is just amazing! This is actually the first I'm seeing of it, and I'm a huge Seiko fan! I just haven't been hanging out on the forums lately. So busy with work lately.
People look at the pictures and pick the color they like better, but, with these watches, pictures simply can't seem to do them justice. I picked blue, but, saw a white dial one and really loved it; it isn't just white but a sort of brilliant pearlescence, just as the blue isn't a simple blue, but a stunning gray/blue sunburst. You'll like either one. The sunburst maroon is also beautiful, as is the coffee.
Hi Bruce, I just bought the blue version a few weeks ago at our local Seiko dealer. Got a GREAT deal. Agree with most of your comments. I do wish the clasp on the bracelet was a bit nicer but for the money it's okay. Cheers John
Hi Bruce. Comparing the Grand Cocktail to my blue, well the GC has a much nicer case (more variety of finishes and machining) and bracelet (solid end links, better clasp...). And of course the movement is better. But you'd expect that for the cost difference. If Seiko put the blue's dial in the SDGM case (or SARX case) that would be a winner! I know they made a special edition SDGM some years back with a blue striated sunray dial but I think the blue's dial is nicer than that one's was. But, for the money (I paid less than $360 new) you can't beat these new Cocktail Times.
I was playing your video for my workout session as usual. I played this video 10 times again the next day. Another day after that, it's in my order list waiting for delivery...
Hey Bruce I just found out about a watch called the Tisell 9015-a Antique. I'm interested to hear what you think about it. I saw one for sale on Reddit for $100 and would have bought it in a heartbeat but I bought a Seiko SRPB77 less than a week ago.
Whats the difference between 6R15 and 4R35 movements? Why is it considered a downgrade. Beautiful watches! I canr decide which I want to get. Any advice?
If I were to get a dress watch combo, I'd go for the SARB035 and the SRPB77. Then I'd replace the latter with a black leather strap. That way, I have a choice between a leather strap dress watch or a bracelet one. :)
Great watches indeed and nice review.... I own a SARB035 and was wondering if to buy one of those. I should go for a 6R15 for sure as you can still find this version for quite the same price as the 4R35 ones. Only issue with 6R15 version is I found them a bit thicker than the 4R35 ones, but still nothing that crazy. That dial is simply splendid...!
Just got my SARB065 yesterday, stunning one, really love it... I'll just go for a bracelet swap and more than sure for a crown change but otherwise fantastic one must admit...!
I tried the white version with blue hands the dial and case and crown are beautiful but the only thing that hold me back from buying the watch at the moment was the cheap hollow bracelet turn off so I walked away
I hear folks call these dress watches, but I daily mine. I love it. I also bought the light blue face and I’m putting a blue rubber watch band on it to daily. Why not?
Haha sorry, I was just borrowing these from a family member, and they were in brand new condition. I didn't want to make any scratches sizing the super long bracelets
They're totally beautiful, if you've got a 7 inches (or more) wrist. On a 6 inches wrist like mine they look humongous, which, for a dress watch, is a shame. I don't get why they don't make them in different sizes for every taste: 30mm for women, 34-36mm for small male wrist, and 40mm for bigger ones.
I got the Manhattan Cocktail color (rose gold) and I love it! Not something I'd wear currently (rain, go away) but I do keep looking at it every night. I'm tempted to get the blue version, though.
@@WyvernX_ It still works. I did buy the blue version, and to be honest, I wore that more often because it works with a wider range of outfits and because the Manhattan looks very expensive. Always makes me hesitate bringing that out unless it's a special occasion. They are delicate watches, though. My blue one shows sign of scratches on the glass, and since the metal bracelet is polished, wear and tear shows. If you're only going to buy one color, you'll have to decide how many times you'll wear them, and your preference. Hope that helps.
@@demoneyeslaharl Yeah it definitely helps, I appreciate you taking the time to respond! Which one I'll get more wear out of has been my main dilemma. Especially since I'm a blue collar worker and rarely get dressed up unless its a special occasion like you said. I have a SARB017 that I have enough trouble putting together with outfits as it is, I didn't want another watch that's hard to style even though my heart was definitely set on the brown/rose gold at first. One other question though, has the gold plating held up well too? That was another concern.
@@WyvernX_ Since I rarely worn it, yes, held up very well. Just so you know, both are quite flashy. Not exactly subtle. If you want max versatility, I'd have you look at the white cocktail time. You can pretty much change the feel of that watch just by changing the straps. Speaking of Sarb017, just change the strap to a distressed brown leather. That watch is surprisingly versatile and you honestly don't have to worry about matching clothes to it too much. But then again, I'm the type of person that wears the hulk colors (green dial and green bezel) everyday, so maybe I'm biased.
@@demoneyeslaharl Thats fair, I actually been wanting to put the alpinist on stainless steel but then I'm stuck with the dilemma of jubilee or oyster. Sucks being so indecisive lol. Also flashy is definitely not a problem. I just wanted to make sure I got enough wear out of whichever I went with. The white is nice too but I already have a Timex Marlin that kinda fills in the white dial "dress watch" role. Wanted more of a unique colored dial but still versatile.
PRC I want a 38mm with sapphire. I don't understand why they didn't put sapphire on this but whatever. The 6r15 movement would be great too but I could get over it with a 38 and sapphire.
I waited for sales to start before pulling the trigger. I had a real hard time deciding on which one, white face or the blue. The White face started it all from the Japan version which is what made me fall in love with the watch, but my favorite color is blue. So with the white face and blue mix and the the blue faced one, I said,, I'll take both. White face was $265 and the Blue face was $285 so I didn't think that was bad for two decent dress watches for the office and such. Sure, I could have just spent the money on one watch and got something else, but I wanted variety on my dress watches. Generally, I don't buy dress watched, I do sport watches. My favorite is my G-Shock Titanium. Its my everyday run around.
One thing I’ve come to realize about almost all Presages is that the camera does not do it justice. If you think it looks good now, wait till you see it in person. They’re freaking spectacular.
Interesting series update for the famous SARB065 Cocktail Time. From that watch you lose the 6R15 movement's 50 hour power reserve and sapphire crystal, but still retain all its beauty of the dial and hands. I am surprised by the bracelet's hollow end links, though. As I stated in the review of the Bambino, I think these are THE watches to consider for affordable but high quality dress watches, but I myself have almost no opportunity to wear one anymore due to relaxed dress standards in today's modern world. Great review Bruce and a double thumbs-up for this format of shorter length but still chock full of good information and beautiful production values.
Thanks, I always enjoy reading your comments, well thought out and presented. I've got a Orient Mako II Pepsi, Tudor North Flad, Mondaine, and Uncle Seiko watch strap vids, coming in the next couple weeks
sarb065 has hardlex crystal, not sapphire. I think Seiko used hardlex in both because of the protruding domed shape and not too profitable at either price points.
Dark dials and high polish arent the best for visibility. I prefer, and bought, the Ltd ed frozen margarita 38mm with a different pattern and lighter dial. Also with the type you're showing the bulova sinatra are maybe a bit better with very similar dial
Both look stunning. A sapphire crystal and a better movement would have made this the perfect dress watch and if kept at the same price point, I bet Seiko would have a runaway hit that would amaze the world.
Cosmetic differences in between the new Presage USA line and the quality/detail of my Grand Seikos are subtle, and probably indistinguishable to all but the Seiko informed. This watch looks far more expensive than it is, especially on the nice leather strap I have it on. I've heard complaints about the the bracelet, but I'm not sure how much more it's realistic to expect at this price point. You want Grand Seiko/Rolex quality bracelet? Pony up $5-$10K+ for one. The details on this watch rival my overpriced Rolexes, which don't even have a display back. Truth is, this watch is worth more than I paid brand new, even if it came with no bracelet. This piece is a huge winner, wearable for dress or casual, and I see no reason why it won't be share wrist time with the (mostly far more costly) watches in my collection. Accuracy, durability, value, and quality fit/finish well above the asking price? What more do you want?
40 mm is still Ok even if I prefer 38 mm...great to see a good bracelet on a Seiko...at least the clasp on my SARB033/35 suck...I really dont like the Presage print and why the hell they downgraded from 6R to a 4R movement.
They don't have a sapphire crystal, solid end-links, and still retail for over $400. Because Seiko has finally agreed to least paint the rotor? :) The dial is great, but there are too many negatives.
Normally, I only buy dive watches, but, I just couldn't get these out of my craw. A classic box crystal dress watch in a discrete size made by Seiko, my favorite diver maker?? I just ordered the gray/blue dial cocktail with date sub-dial SSA347J1 and it's on the way. This video sold me.
Got the blue one for free, because the date wheel was white instead of black, changed it for 15$, and now i have myself a cocktail blue moon for 15$ basically
![Can It Really Be That Good? Seiko Cocktail Time Review [ SRPB41J1 ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/cLgxBu_P2bo/mqdefault.jpg)
Six years later they still hold their own! Beautiful watches!
I agree, they are stunning! Like that they are at 40mm. The blue one is just fantastic!
Blue one is a masterpiece. Seiko really pumping out some excellent stuff theses days. I have an SDGM001 inbound!
Thanks Bruce! Another great comparison.
What a great idea to film outside as well as inside - we get to see the difference in the way they catch the light. Big relief to have a video that is sharp and can do good close ups. Also thanks for holding the watches steady so you can view them properly and for not waving them around like flags which drives me crazy. So tempted to buy one but concerned about the accuracy of the movement but you say it's quite accurate so might take a chance! Thanks again for great review.
The blue one is just amazing! This is actually the first I'm seeing of it, and I'm a huge Seiko fan! I just haven't been hanging out on the forums lately. So busy with work lately.
They've come out with some good stuff recently. Another one that has my eye is the sarx045
Got the blue one this week mate. Youre right its so beautiful to look at.id like the white one too
Your macro shots are consistently amazing
Thanks!
I already bought a blue cocktail thanks 4 d video.!
Absolutely stunning, great review
I'm not it the market for a dress watch but the white one is stunning. I honestly like it better then the blue.
People look at the pictures and pick the color they like better, but, with these watches, pictures simply can't seem to do them justice. I picked blue, but, saw a white dial one and really loved it; it isn't just white but a sort of brilliant pearlescence, just as the blue isn't a simple blue, but a stunning gray/blue sunburst. You'll like either one. The sunburst maroon is also beautiful, as is the coffee.
@@varanid9 Seiko Presage SRPB41 or Seiko Presage SRPB77: Which is a better everyday watch for a female? (I like men watches).
Great video. Doing the WIS community a great service.
Both are beautiful. Tough to choose between them.
Hi Bruce, I just bought the blue version a few weeks ago at our local Seiko dealer. Got a GREAT deal. Agree with most of your comments. I do wish the clasp on the bracelet was a bit nicer but for the money it's okay. Cheers John
How do you like it compared to the grand cocktail?
Hi Bruce. Comparing the Grand Cocktail to my blue, well the GC has a much nicer case (more variety of finishes and machining) and bracelet (solid end links, better clasp...). And of course the movement is better. But you'd expect that for the cost difference. If Seiko put the blue's dial in the SDGM case (or SARX case) that would be a winner! I know they made a special edition SDGM some years back with a blue striated sunray dial but I think the blue's dial is nicer than that one's was. But, for the money (I paid less than $360 new) you can't beat these new Cocktail Times.
I like the silver one better with the blue hands
I love how you realised at a few minutes in that your dates where both not set and then decided to change them
I was playing your video for my workout session as usual. I played this video 10 times again the next day. Another day after that, it's in my order list waiting for delivery...
those are gorgeous
do you think the Angus Jubilee bracelet from strapcode would fit this because they make one for the Alpinist and they share the same lug size
Hey Bruce I just found out about a watch called the Tisell 9015-a Antique. I'm interested to hear what you think about it. I saw one for sale on Reddit for $100 and would have bought it in a heartbeat but I bought a Seiko SRPB77 less than a week ago.
Lovely, thank you. Prices in UK are much higher!
Whats the difference between 6R15 and 4R35 movements? Why is it considered a downgrade. Beautiful watches! I canr decide which I want to get. Any advice?
Just bought the blue one! Can’t wait 😊
Jeremey King same here so anxious
How is the functioning now?
Pallav Bansal works great
@@Jerguitar2 thank u Sir, just ordered it, shade change on the dail looks so good.
@@Jerguitar2 For how long can the watch stay idle for until it stops working and need to be winded again?
I kinda like hollowed end links on this.. it gives it a certain charm... and is noone gonna talk about this blued hands!!
Which one you guys like more the blue or brown one with leather strap?
Good video man, thanks.
the Blue one, will be my next one....
Would you go for one of these or a Tissot Visodate?
Deciding between this and the oceanus T200
If I were to get a dress watch combo, I'd go for the SARB035 and the SRPB77. Then I'd replace the latter with a black leather strap. That way, I have a choice between a leather strap dress watch or a bracelet one. :)
Have both Sarbs and the sdgm so I think I'm covered but I saw a brown dial in the city the other day it was awesome 👍
That one looks pretty slick
For the small wrist, this one or orient bambino?
Hi i just recently purchased the blue watch. Can anyone recommend a strap for it?
Seiko looks very nice, but that orient grey dial is a beast..
A bit late... but is the SRPB77 still available?
Great watches indeed and nice review.... I own a SARB035 and was wondering if to buy one of those. I should go for a 6R15 for sure as you can still find this version for quite the same price as the 4R35 ones. Only issue with 6R15 version is I found them a bit thicker than the 4R35 ones, but still nothing that crazy. That dial is simply splendid...!
Just got my SARB065 yesterday, stunning one, really love it... I'll just go for a bracelet swap and more than sure for a crown change but otherwise fantastic one must admit...!
The white dial is impossible to find in the UK. The blue however is easiest to find. I am looking for the white dial
I tried the white version with blue hands the dial and case and crown are beautiful but the only thing that hold me back from buying the watch at the moment was the cheap hollow bracelet turn off so I walked away
This is a great review. I’m between seiko presage, orient ray 2 and mako 2. Idk which one to choose. All look stunning
Late to the party, but I got the ray2. Excellent for work.
Waiting for them to be available in Germany. I prefer the SSA343 version.
I hear folks call these dress watches, but I daily mine. I love it. I also bought the light blue face and I’m putting a blue rubber watch band on it to daily. Why not?
Ron Sterud yea seems like they do both casual and dressy
Seiko Presage SRPB41 or Seiko Presage SRPB77: Which is a better everyday watch?
Beautiful watches
this is a great video, how do you like these presage watches in comparison to the sarb033?
I think they are definitely more attractive, and maybe more fun to wear. But I do prefer the sapphire and smaller size of the sarbs
What are the model name for the blue and white?
Is the srpb77 discontinued? Seems like it's not sold anymore new
Would this watch be too big for my 6.25in wrist? My wrist width is about 50mm
Seiko Presage SRPB41 or Seiko Presage SRPB77: Which is a better everyday watch?
They look fantastic. The white dial is great. Was waiting for a wrist shot??!! :)
Haha sorry, I was just borrowing these from a family member, and they were in brand new condition. I didn't want to make any scratches sizing the super long bracelets
I don’t like the blue hands so I went with the blue dial
What is the difference between srpb77 and sary125 ?
Where are they made? In China or Japan?
They're totally beautiful, if you've got a 7 inches (or more) wrist. On a 6 inches wrist like mine they look humongous, which, for a dress watch, is a shame. I don't get why they don't make them in different sizes for every taste: 30mm for women, 34-36mm for small male wrist, and 40mm for bigger ones.
That would be ideal
@@BruceWilliams yes, that would be ideal. i don't understand why all these manufacturers are missing the boat by not making 36mm - 38mm watches.
I really like the watch but the only issue I have is the crown how it's not completely flushed and makes the crown bigger as it is
Excellent informative review Bruce. Should I go for SRPB41 or SRPB46? Please help me out.
Whichever you like more!
I just bought the blue one for a crazy deal: £289 brand new from a jewellers. Beat that!
You were super luck mate.i just paid £380 for mine this week
Get a tan leather strap for the blue sunburst dial you'll be set! 🔥I feel like the white one looks nice but kinda boring
Seiko most definitely know how to bring it for the money.
Why u didnt put it on your wrist bruce, id like to see one as i would make this as gift to my parent
Can i use leather belt with this watch??
The light blue is my favourite actually
I got the Manhattan Cocktail color (rose gold) and I love it! Not something I'd wear currently (rain, go away) but I do keep looking at it every night. I'm tempted to get the blue version, though.
How has it held up? Been stuck between the brown and blue for a long time now.
@@WyvernX_ It still works. I did buy the blue version, and to be honest, I wore that more often because it works with a wider range of outfits and because the Manhattan looks very expensive. Always makes me hesitate bringing that out unless it's a special occasion.
They are delicate watches, though. My blue one shows sign of scratches on the glass, and since the metal bracelet is polished, wear and tear shows.
If you're only going to buy one color, you'll have to decide how many times you'll wear them, and your preference. Hope that helps.
@@demoneyeslaharl Yeah it definitely helps, I appreciate you taking the time to respond! Which one I'll get more wear out of has been my main dilemma. Especially since I'm a blue collar worker and rarely get dressed up unless its a special occasion like you said.
I have a SARB017 that I have enough trouble putting together with outfits as it is, I didn't want another watch that's hard to style even though my heart was definitely set on the brown/rose gold at first.
One other question though, has the gold plating held up well too? That was another concern.
@@WyvernX_ Since I rarely worn it, yes, held up very well.
Just so you know, both are quite flashy. Not exactly subtle. If you want max versatility, I'd have you look at the white cocktail time. You can pretty much change the feel of that watch just by changing the straps.
Speaking of Sarb017, just change the strap to a distressed brown leather. That watch is surprisingly versatile and you honestly don't have to worry about matching clothes to it too much. But then again, I'm the type of person that wears the hulk colors (green dial and green bezel) everyday, so maybe I'm biased.
@@demoneyeslaharl Thats fair, I actually been wanting to put the alpinist on stainless steel but then I'm stuck with the dilemma of jubilee or oyster. Sucks being so indecisive lol.
Also flashy is definitely not a problem. I just wanted to make sure I got enough wear out of whichever I went with. The white is nice too but I already have a Timex Marlin that kinda fills in the white dial "dress watch" role. Wanted more of a unique colored dial but still versatile.
Can't make up my mind on these vs the SARB lineup...
i have the blue one, love it but the clasp and end links are cheap, lets beg strapcode to come out with grade bracelet for this model haha
I still like the Manhattan Cocktail even though it is not a limited edition
anybody knows where I can get the bracelets ?
Is the blue one suitable for everyday-use, not just as a dress watch?
think so, unless ure going into water, its good with everyday wear
Stunning dials !! . If it was a 38mm with the 6r15 movement , it would be the perfect watch.
PRC I want a 38mm with sapphire. I don't understand why they didn't put sapphire on this but whatever. The 6r15 movement would be great too but I could get over it with a 38 and sapphire.
@@Ash12428 I agree . 38mm and sapphire would be an awesome watch.
Agree 38mm case would of been excellent
If they were at least a bit smaller but with the same hands so that the minute hand reaches the markers, the than that, BREATHTAKING!!!
Definitely. I noticed the indices were half floating over the domed dial when I was editing, same with applied printing. Awesome.
I waited for sales to start before pulling the trigger. I had a real hard time deciding on which one, white face or the blue. The White face started it all from the Japan version which is what made me fall in love with the watch, but my favorite color is blue. So with the white face and blue mix and the the blue faced one, I said,, I'll take both. White face was $265 and the Blue face was $285 so I didn't think that was bad for two decent dress watches for the office and such. Sure, I could have just spent the money on one watch and got something else, but I wanted variety on my dress watches. Generally, I don't buy dress watched, I do sport watches. My favorite is my G-Shock Titanium. Its my everyday run around.
I’m going to do the same thing man. Bought the blue last year now going to get the white and put on a leather strap
One thing I’ve come to realize about almost all Presages is that the camera does not do it justice. If you think it looks good now, wait till you see it in person. They’re freaking spectacular.
Hi Bruce, I am interested in purchasing your white dial SRPB77 watch. What is your email so we can get into further contact?
Thanks, Ryo
Interesting series update for the famous SARB065 Cocktail Time. From that watch you lose the 6R15 movement's 50 hour power reserve and sapphire crystal, but still retain all its beauty of the dial and hands. I am surprised by the bracelet's hollow end links, though. As I stated in the review of the Bambino, I think these are THE watches to consider for affordable but high quality dress watches, but I myself have almost no opportunity to wear one anymore due to relaxed dress standards in today's modern world.
Great review Bruce and a double thumbs-up for this format of shorter length but still chock full of good information and beautiful production values.
Thanks, I always enjoy reading your comments, well thought out and presented. I've got a Orient Mako II Pepsi, Tudor North Flad, Mondaine, and Uncle Seiko watch strap vids, coming in the next couple weeks
sarb065 has hardlex crystal, not sapphire. I think Seiko used hardlex in both because of the protruding domed shape and not too profitable at either price points.
Ah, I stand corrected. Thanks for the update.
i was considering blue one with metal bracalet... but folded links? such a letdown :/
True
Change the band
Think you could wear these watches casually with the steel bracelet and with Jeans and T shirt?
My dream watch would be the Orient Bambino case and the seiko cocktail dial .The cocktail case is so boring .
I had 3 links removed on my 7.5 inch wrist.
Dark dials and high polish arent the best for visibility. I prefer, and bought, the Ltd ed frozen margarita 38mm with a different pattern and lighter dial. Also with the type you're showing the bulova sinatra are maybe a bit better with very similar dial
Gorgeous...I can't not buy one now
I'm not a fan of these watches per se, but the bracelets are absolutely stunning!!
It's a lesser watch since becoming part of the presage line. 😞
White dial is 😍 shame it’s not 38mm
got the blue one in japan for $200
I have the blue dial version and it is gorgeous.
Where can i buy this for less than £400
eBay! I bought the ssa347 for $325 as a best offer about 2 months ago. I love it!!
Nice looking watch, but the minute hand is too short, no sapphire crystal, 4R35 instead of 6R15 movement. The SARB 033 and 035 were better bargains.
Really wish this was 38mm since it's a dress watch
Agree. My favorite dress watches are always 38 or less. I wonder why companies are trending big. I was surprised when Rolex bumped the DJ to 41
This dresses up or down imo
I just bought the blue one for $289 from Macy's and a $50 rebate. So $239!?
I saw that offer from Macys (289 USD) but didnt see that 50 USD rebate. How did you got that 50 bucks rebate?
Tbf they aren't worth more than that.
I don't see how these models are better than SARB033/35.
Both look stunning. A sapphire crystal and a better movement would have made this the perfect dress watch and if kept at the same price point, I bet Seiko would have a runaway hit that would amaze the world.
They got close! There is always something glaring though
Bruce Williams Hmm. Yeah. There is always something to hope for in the future though.
Cosmetic differences in between the new Presage USA line and the quality/detail of my Grand Seikos are subtle, and probably indistinguishable to all but the Seiko informed. This watch looks far more expensive than it is, especially on the nice leather strap I have it on. I've heard complaints about the the bracelet, but I'm not sure how much more it's realistic to expect at this price point. You want Grand Seiko/Rolex quality bracelet? Pony up $5-$10K+ for one. The details on this watch rival my overpriced Rolexes, which don't even have a display back. Truth is, this watch is worth more than I paid brand new, even if it came with no bracelet. This piece is a huge winner, wearable for dress or casual, and I see no reason why it won't be share wrist time with the (mostly far more costly) watches in my collection. Accuracy, durability, value, and quality fit/finish well above the asking price? What more do you want?
I would love these if they had sapphire. Because for the price, I mean come on.
Qual. Valor dese relógio
40 mm is still Ok even if I prefer 38 mm...great to see a good bracelet on a Seiko...at least the clasp on my SARB033/35 suck...I really dont like the Presage print and why the hell they downgraded from 6R to a 4R movement.
Must be cheaper to manufacture
4R should only be in
Warning: If you will be sizing the bracelet yourself - read up on pin and collar bracelets.
Folded end links in 2017 is absolutely ridiculous, especially on a $300+ watch.
True that
They don't have a sapphire crystal, solid end-links, and still retail for over $400. Because Seiko has finally agreed to least paint the rotor? :)
The dial is great, but there are too many negatives.
Yet people still buy them, the blue is super hard to keep in stock
Agree Yury. The Chinese are doing this for 50usd these days.
That raised mineral crystal will get scratched to hell. Would really benefit from a sapphire crystal.
Normally, I only buy dive watches, but, I just couldn't get these out of my craw. A classic box crystal dress watch in a discrete size made by Seiko, my favorite diver maker?? I just ordered the gray/blue dial cocktail with date sub-dial SSA347J1 and it's on the way. This video sold me.
Got the blue one for free, because the date wheel was white instead of black, changed it for 15$, and now i have myself a cocktail blue moon for 15$ basically
So, you obviously don't like watches on the wrist ! But I do !
I like the older version better, plus this one has a lesser movement unfortunately
What older version can you provide a link ?