I used installed this in my fully assembled NR200 and it was VERY easy. Simply take off the side and front plate, slide the gpu in from the side and through the front opening, click into place. Easy peasy. I did have to remove my lower fans which were full size and I would recommend not putting slims there, they’d likely restrict the gpu fans. I’ll just mount those to the top for exhaust. So far card is working great, a superb upgrade from my 1060 6g.
Really hoping to see this paired with an X3D cpu for comparison. Inches away from buying 7800xt, 7800x3d. Will be our first step up from the entry level class. 🤔
I just bought a 7800X3d last week, and this particular Asrock Phantom is in the mail. Was thinking the base model was fine, but according to some people that have tried to OC the Phantom, claims it's comes borderline close to the 4070Ti in raster when paired with a 7800x3d, so I paid the extra 20 bucks for the Phantom model.
the dream high performance per dollar build for new. had I not gotten a killer deal locally on a 4070ti this was what I was waiting on. as it is could have saved 100 bucks with this setup for essentially the same performance.
Asrock has a smaller version called Challenger, but I believe that matching the msrp with only 2 fans it's ment to be nothing more than just a basic improvement on the reference design. Still, it would be cool to see you check it out for potential smaller builds. I am getting this one soon, so hopefully it does well enough for no extra cost added to the suggested msrp of the 7800 xt.
i just bought the challenger 1 hour before hahah, Still waiting for the shipping..I think the 3 fan will not reduce your fps😅, but sure it will reduce the price...so its a win solution for me...I prefer dual fan .... you afraid of overheat gpu?? Cmon bruh, one fan will do nothing to your GPU °C/F🤣...u still have the external fan on your pc case bytheway haha
@@user-qx7tm5df8j hmmm..i think for the fan its not just asrock, GPu with power like this often sounds louder...The build quality of the fan will not change the sound, you good bro... And remember it use 250w tdp so it's normal if it sounds louder...btw what card did u use before? If this is the highest gpu you ever buy, than its no wonder you think that the fan is louder😁✌️...its normal dude, you buy a good product
If you blow fans at a air cooled gpu, Keep an eye on ram temps. You could be canceling out the gpu air flow causing vram over heating. Best option is to pull air away from the gpu. Use smoke to verify. Or a vape
In Bulgaria they are around the same price, so it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to choose 6800 over 7800. Not sure how the prices run in the States, though.
@@gotinogaden i got a steel legend 7800xt for the kid, had a 6800xt. bench score went up 6% basically, and i sold his 6800 for $350.. so it only cost $520 for the 7800xt. said he gets 15fps better in cod and fortnite, so he happy. i got a 7900xtx and im happy as can be, waiting for a cool RT game to come out.. but seems like itll be 2026 lol
I was looking into Nitro+ 7800XT but it only comes with 2y warranty compared to 3y for AsRock. I’ve also read Sapphire is pain to deal with when it comes to warranty
@@RobBCactive Got called out for recommending asrock am5 mobo's not long ago, their products have turned around and are good quality, but their brand perception is still in the gutter. But hey, it means we get good stuff for relatively cheap while everyone's still bitching about them :D Got their b650e pg lightning myself on buildzoid's recommendation and it's a fantastic board. Cheapest you get pcie gen5 on the gpu and on an m.2
You are *definitely* The Man, Mr. Wendell. Awesome review! Thank you. 🙏🏼 (And thanks especially for including those numbers at 1080p. I know most folks game at 1440p or higher these days, but I'm a 1080p kinda guy. Thanks again. 👍🏼)
Thanks so much for the early aib comparisons, I know Im buying it but I want the coldest silicon I can get to make sure its kicking ass 15y down the line
If AMD can maintain the price, and youtubers put out UPDATES like every 6 months which will paint AMD GPUs in particular in much better light because they improve with driver updates, or people are smart enough to watch current "xxxx vs. xxxx" GPU comparison videos every few months so they can SEE how the different GPUs improve, then yes, the 7800 XT should be a really good seller regardless of it not being great at RT performance at 2K. It will be decent in many games, but not games with heavy RT effects.
I sold my 2060 super for a red devil 7800xt and it was su h a huge bump in performance, ZERO regrets, have it paired with a 5950x and 32gb of 3600 ram, beast pc so far
You don't by any chance have access to a Asrock Challenger? Its a bit smaller, and I'm thinking of getting one for my small form factor build as it is the only one that will fit.
9:37 Deltas of 30°C, 27°C, and 26°C between overall/current/edge temp and hotspot temp? Shouldn’t that be closer to half of that? Yeah the temps themselves aren’t an issue, but that delta has me concerned about mounting pressure or thermal interface material/paste application
Just ordered refence card from AMD for SFF (Dan A4 H2) to replace my RTX2080 SeaHawk Hybrid Back to front build (Air CPU/H20-GPU). Confirmed delivery today for Thursday with Free Pandora game to see if we can melt it on day 1! Benchmrking begins tonight for the outgoing card which is actually fine at 4k in optimised games like lies of P (120FPS - with upscale Balanced). Little concerned about going all in on FSR Vs DLSS as you can notice the shimer on the candeliers in the Home base area when switching between the 2 on the Nvidia....shouldnt need upscaling at all with this though in Lies of P... Looking forwar to turning on HD Texture packs in FC 6 and buying TLOU or Hogwarts to see if its up to the task or if i should return for 4080 or 7900XT/XTX if i sell my old spare parts.
Highest hotspot I’ve seen on this card is 84ish with no undervolt and like 2800+mhz Undervolted 940-950/2600-2650, 68-72. I might put Kryosheet on eventually
I have this card I've seen TBP as high as 424W. I routinely see TBP numbers of 330-385W well above what's published. Also clock speeds as high as 2766MHz when undervolted. I have a 750W PSU and I'm wondering if it is enough because a couple times the PC shut off completely in mid-gaming. I'm thinking this is due to either using a 750W PSU instead of the recommended 800W from AsRock or too high hotspot temps. They can get above 90c. My calculations before buying this had me using a maximum of 596W for the entire PC but that was based on a GPU that was using 250W. This thing uses far more than advertised. What I've taking to doing underclocking to 1100mv and a 2450MHz clockspeed which gives me an actual boost of 2570MHz which is about the published clockspeed. I lose 3-5 fps from 2700MHz but that's okay. It was boosting way too high on it's own so this puts it at stock essentially. This has brought down hotspot temps and I don't see the PC shutting down anymore. I also get exactly 135fps with Borderlands 3 1440p ultra with a R7 5800X. This card is worth every penny imo.
@@ixlndvsxtc I got mine from Walmart. I checked moments ago and it's out of stock there too. I've since learned you apparently have to tune these cards rather than run them from default settings.
What about normalized noise between this one and the Nitro+? I currently unable to hear the fans of my Nitro+ 7800 XT, so maybe if both card are producing the same level of noise the temps also could be the same? BTW I love the Nitro "no plastic" design!
I would personally avoid the Gigabyte variant of the 7800 XT. I hear & read a lot of complaints about them, particularly regarding fan noise and thermal performance in general. (They generally tend to run smaller than other board partner counterparts, so it likely boils down to their cooling solution design.) Also some complaints about Gigabyte's software suite.
MERC319 Radeon RX 7800 XT vs ASRock Radeon RX 7800 XT Phantom Gaming vs PowerColor Radeon RX 7800 XT Hellhound which one of these 3 would you recommend?
the problem i knew for a while is that 7800xt and 7700xt use the same dimensions and also most of them with triple fans model can't fit in my PC case 😂
Right, i have Fractal Torrent Compact, and finding a good looking gpu that fits is hard. 330mm is the max lenght, and so many of 6900,6950,7800xt, are like 332mm, while most of the 7900xt or xtx are 320mm even for top end models.. Doesnt make sense.Annoying.
As a complete newbie according to PC parts picker I can install this card and still have 150 watts in reserve. I have a 650 watt power supply. Do I still need to upgrade to 700-800 if I buy this card?
What about your temps? Mine started fine but the delta is reaching 40c between core and junction temps. Also my last fan is starting to make noise over %65 sounds like a hdd trying to access data .
I hope ASRock does this design for next gen cards, considering most of this gen was a flop. I'd probably buy it then (it's in my planned performance range either way). I'd hate to see such a nice looking design go to waste on a half baked generation, especially when most cards have been a bog standard brick of almost nothing. If you can swap out the front aesthetic plate as well... More cards should do that, it would allow people to go much further with designing the card into their build without getting destructive in the process.
1:15 raw purchase maybe, but not cost to own. I just can't deal with the power consumption compared to the 4070, not how they priced it like they do in Europe with the power rates here. The 7800xt is around €60 cheaper than a 4070, but it will consume over €60 in electricity in maybe 2-3 years of gaming. If it was around €100-150 cheaper than a 4070 it would've been a no-brainer, right now I can't justify the edge in performance it has over the 4070 (aside from Starfield and some other games where it beats even a 4070ti, but I have zero interest in that) while sucking down over 50 watts more at full tilt. It's like a third more heat into my case and load on my PSU which would be barely rated for it, so I have to upgrade that probably as well and I would have to move fans around in order to even fit the gigantic 300+mm card, while most 4070's would just slot in without issues.
@@reybel17 True, but you can also undervolt a 4070 with most likely similar gains in power efficiency compared to loss in performance. Point is that if the base is more efficient, it's probably going to be more efficient no matter how you tweak it, as I don't think AMD has just jacked the voltage to the max in order to keep up with more margin to tweak it. I'm willing to wait a bit for more information to come out though. Whatever card I get I will probably undervolt in time, but I don't like being beholden to silicon lottery to achieve the thing I want and I don't want to invest the effort required for experimenting to find the floor and stability testing immediately after getting the card, it should just do its job right out of the box with opportunities to tweak it down the line, not immediately be required to be competitive.
@@reybel17 Same here, if the 4070 had 16GB it would have been in my PC already. I'm hoping that AMD will get their drivers together and squeezes a bit more performance (and by proxy power efficiency since the TDP would stay the same) out of the 7800xt in the coming weeks, as I'm quite conflicted giving nvidia more money for something that doesn't at least double the VRAM of my 7 year old gtx1070. I care mostly for raster performance, not really for upscaling or raytracing so AMD would be the much better fit, but I don't think I can justify it right now.
Lmao, yearly cost of extra 50watts of on an electrical bill, is such a strong point to be made, to prove a worst preforming 4070, is worth it for more money . 😅🤣
Can you measure how much extra tall it is? Like whats the distance from the end of the L bracket to the edge of the card? I have a compact matx case (D30) and i really like this model but im scared that ill buy it and it will be too close to the glass sidepannel .
I'm getting more interested in Asrock GPUs. I know with RDNA 2 their Challenger OC models are very good. On the other hand their MBs have given me too many problems and are SLOW getting out updated BIOSs.
I have an ASRock 6800XT and I'm very impressed, it was the cheapest one on newegg and yet it scores about 6-7% higher on timespy than stock, I can push it to around 15% above stock with undervolting, increasing power limit, and overclocking, and the thing never goes above like 75-80C on the hotspot.
If you have a vertical mount and bottom fans blowing on the gpu, you will cancle out the gpu fans. You must have bottom fans pushing out. And back fan pushing out. Tested with smoke. Sure enough, caused vram to overheat when fans pushing in. Then swapped and it pulled a huge amount of heat out of the bottom of the case. O11D XL ROG DEBAUR VERSION.
Does asrock phantom have coil whine? I returned my 6950xt red devil cause of crazy coil whine. I’m currently looking at either hellhound or asrock, but I’m unsure about hellhound cause of my previous experience with PowerColor.
@@georgescookie alright good to know. I have not heard anyone complain about 7800xt hellhound coil whine or noise or temps so it’s number 1 on my list.
Another great review Wendell, but as someone who's an over 35 year old professional I'd like to know its Development and maybe even Deep Learning/AI capabilities. At this point eveyone should be able to find info on what game stats are but the real meat and potatoes for the grown up professionals want to know is its potential for Technology field related task on top of playing the occasional video game.
Condescending much? Since you're such a grown up professional I would suggest an RX 7900XTX and leave these low-level scrapings to us non-professional gamers.
I have ordered this card and is thinking about buying the Fractal North case and mount this and a Galahad II Trinity 360 AIO CPU cooler. In theory it should just be able to fit, but unsure. Anybody able to give some input on it?
Seems to be a lot of ragging on AMD Radeon and getting stomped by Nvidia. However, when I decided to upgrade this year, I was planning on buying Nvidia and was more familiar with Nvidia cards, but I was really unimpressed with Nvidia's 4000 series cards. It just feels like Nvidia is giving gamers the middle finger with their offerings. The core Nvidia archtiecture is good, but the pricing and packaging (e.g. VRAM configs and tier positioning for anything below the 4090) are kind of insulting. So for the first time ever, I went with an AMD Radeon card and purchased a PowerColor 7800 XT. I'm very happy with it so far; it's a good card for a good price. To me, DLSS being slightly better than FSR is kind of irrelevant as the 7800 XT is powerful enough at 1440p that I don't use upscaling for anything. I think it would be nice if RT performance were better, but truth is I don't even play a game right now that offers RT, and from all the video reviews I've seen, the only RT effect I even notice is RT reflections. Since I'm not planning on getting Cyberpunk, I can't even think of another game that would matter. Maybe in a few more years it might start to matter more.
It's coming off like Wendell is a little fanboy-ish on this card. It might be the value choice for some, but not by some massive margin even gen-on-gen let alone VS NV. When you factor in the comically large three-slot design for this card on top of that and I'm less than blown away.
Would you get this 7800xt for 540 plus tax i live in California so about 600. Or 4070 ti gigabyte gaming oc for 750 after tax. Keep in mind all i do is play COD/Warzone which preforms better on AMD gpus Maybe edit a video here and there but nothing professional. Just genuinely curious to what others think
Hello I want to buy a new graphics card and I am confused between them. I hope you can help me please ASRock Phantom Gaming Radeon RX 6800 XT 16GB OC ASRock Phantom Gaming Radeon RX 7800 XT 16GB OC I live in Norway, and for your information, 6800 is more expensive than 7800, and this is what makes me crazy.
i have a 4060 and the ray tracing isnt all that fr i just switched back to amd have the same card otw in the mail and it will blow the skirt off the 4060 i already know so who needs rt
I wish I was like 'every person' and had 550€ to throw around for something that is far from high end :D I remember the days when a 200€ GPU could play anything at 1060p60 max settings
Why buy a big graphics card and try to put it in a small case? I'm sure it's a made-up flaw, don't do it anymore because you look funny)) There is also an ASRock Radeon RX 7800 XT Challenger for such cases.
This does not even come close to a 4070, especially if you factor in power draw, 1% lows, and RT. Wendell is just being a straight up AMD shill here. And Quake 2 isnt Quake Arena, btw.
You are the shill here. In Gamers nexus tests the 7800 is consistently better than a 4070 and trades blows with 4070 Ti or even 4080 on some games. RT is very situational and does have a significant performance impact on the 4070
Also power draw? really? Can we stop this bs (on both sides) that power consumption differences between the same class of GPU matter? Only miners that run racks of GPUs care about a few dozen watts of difference between cards
@@marcogenovesi8570 what he meant was the efficiency the 40 series runs at lower TDP. My 4070 ti uses 180w as opposed to 280w and only loses 5% max performance. But stays super cool and quiet. And the features from Nvidia allows viable ray tracing fully max settings with smooth fps and picture quality.
@@liquidsunshine697 TDP is 215w for 4070 TI vs 260w for 7800xt. For stock cards. "cool and quiet" depends from the cooler, these cards also stay cool and quiet. Aso for the "features from Nvidia" you mean you are another of those that thinks he is playing with everything maxed in 4k by enabling DLSS when you are in fact playing upscaled fullHD. Yeah this card can play everything maxed in fullHD too.
I used installed this in my fully assembled NR200 and it was VERY easy. Simply take off the side and front plate, slide the gpu in from the side and through the front opening, click into place. Easy peasy. I did have to remove my lower fans which were full size and I would recommend not putting slims there, they’d likely restrict the gpu fans. I’ll just mount those to the top for exhaust. So far card is working great, a superb upgrade from my 1060 6g.
Thanks for this info this is the case I have and am looking into upgrading my 2070s
Any updates on GPU?
I have the 7900xtx version of this card. I love it. Will be buying AsRock products going forward.
Really hoping to see this paired with an X3D cpu for comparison. Inches away from buying 7800xt, 7800x3d. Will be our first step up from the entry level class. 🤔
thats the dream and then benchmarking it with Star Citizen to really see how it holds up
I just bought a 7800X3d last week, and this particular Asrock Phantom is in the mail. Was thinking the base model was fine, but according to some people that have tried to OC the Phantom, claims it's comes borderline close to the 4070Ti in raster when paired with a 7800x3d, so I paid the extra 20 bucks for the Phantom model.
@@sprocket5526that's awesome, can you let us know your results after you test it, that would be cool.
the dream high performance per dollar build for new. had I not gotten a killer deal locally on a 4070ti this was what I was waiting on. as it is could have saved 100 bucks with this setup for essentially the same performance.
buying that set up myself around black friday. hoping to get a deal or two on the parts.
Asrock has a smaller version called Challenger, but I believe that matching the msrp with only 2 fans it's ment to be nothing more than just a basic improvement on the reference design. Still, it would be cool to see you check it out for potential smaller builds. I am getting this one soon, so hopefully it does well enough for no extra cost added to the suggested msrp of the 7800 xt.
ty i was wondering why im looking at a 2 fan version. so from your comment i assume its totally fine to buy it instead of the 3 fan version?
I hope you like your new gpu
i just bought the challenger 1 hour before hahah, Still waiting for the shipping..I think the 3 fan will not reduce your fps😅, but sure it will reduce the price...so its a win solution for me...I prefer dual fan .... you afraid of overheat gpu?? Cmon bruh, one fan will do nothing to your GPU °C/F🤣...u still have the external fan on your pc case bytheway haha
@@GamingRider20 what? no one has claimed otherwise. i have it too and its good, altough the fans seem a bit cheap and are not the most silent
@@user-qx7tm5df8j hmmm..i think for the fan its not just asrock, GPu with power like this often sounds louder...The build quality of the fan will not change the sound, you good bro... And remember it use 250w tdp so it's normal if it sounds louder...btw what card did u use before? If this is the highest gpu you ever buy, than its no wonder you think that the fan is louder😁✌️...its normal dude, you buy a good product
I bought this exact card! It kicks ass!
If you blow fans at a air cooled gpu,
Keep an eye on ram temps. You could be canceling out the gpu air flow causing vram over heating.
Best option is to pull air away from the gpu. Use smoke to verify. Or a vape
Sapphire is my choice when I go with AMD. Currently rocking new RX 6800XT for $400. Best choice in years after seeing the RX 7800XT performance.
In Bulgaria they are around the same price, so it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to choose 6800 over 7800. Not sure how the prices run in the States, though.
@@gotinogaden i got a steel legend 7800xt for the kid, had a 6800xt. bench score went up 6% basically, and i sold his 6800 for $350.. so it only cost $520 for the 7800xt. said he gets 15fps better in cod and fortnite, so he happy. i got a 7900xtx and im happy as can be, waiting for a cool RT game to come out.. but seems like itll be 2026 lol
I was looking into Nitro+ 7800XT but it only comes with 2y warranty compared to 3y for AsRock. I’ve also read Sapphire is pain to deal with when it comes to warranty
Comparison with Powercolor Hellhound would be nice.
just got my 7900 xtx - very happy
ASRock is doing decent stuff lately, I don´t know what changed, but it is not like in the past.
Yep, their mobos turned round too, I still remember super hot VRMs and terrible coolers on the basement tier cards
@@RobBCactive Got called out for recommending asrock am5 mobo's not long ago, their products have turned around and are good quality, but their brand perception is still in the gutter. But hey, it means we get good stuff for relatively cheap while everyone's still bitching about them :D
Got their b650e pg lightning myself on buildzoid's recommendation and it's a fantastic board. Cheapest you get pcie gen5 on the gpu and on an m.2
The PowerColor cards are best in class temperatures followed by TUF when comes to 7800 XT but still amazing card.
You are *definitely* The Man, Mr. Wendell. Awesome review! Thank you. 🙏🏼 (And thanks especially for including those numbers at 1080p. I know most folks game at 1440p or higher these days, but I'm a 1080p kinda guy. Thanks again. 👍🏼)
Thanks so much for the early aib comparisons, I know Im buying it but I want the coldest silicon I can get to make sure its kicking ass 15y down the line
Just bought one after this review and bumped my frames over the 3060ti by double in baldurs gate
If AMD can maintain the price, and youtubers put out UPDATES like every 6 months which will paint AMD GPUs in particular in much better light because they improve with driver updates, or people are smart enough to watch current "xxxx vs. xxxx" GPU comparison videos every few months so they can SEE how the different GPUs improve, then yes, the 7800 XT should be a really good seller regardless of it not being great at RT performance at 2K. It will be decent in many games, but not games with heavy RT effects.
The fact that the 6800xt out performs this card in anything will keep me from buying it. I’m really holding out hope for intel battle mage.
@@gs-pd5oxAs the OP has said, driver updates have made this no longer the case
I sold my 2060 super for a red devil 7800xt and it was su h a huge bump in performance, ZERO regrets, have it paired with a 5950x and 32gb of 3600 ram, beast pc so far
The average gamer is probably like, nah, I want an inferior RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB instead.
"Muh Raytracing and Muh DLSS" intensifies
Only inferior in terms of value. I bet the 4060ti is like almost half the die size lol.
pretty sure the average gamer thinks like you and opts for the cheaper AMD cards
and?@@kodakblack531
nope, hardly anyone buys amd graphics cards@@liquidsunshine697
You don't by any chance have access to a Asrock Challenger? Its a bit smaller, and I'm thinking of getting one for my small form factor build as it is the only one that will fit.
9:37 Deltas of 30°C, 27°C, and 26°C between overall/current/edge temp and hotspot temp? Shouldn’t that be closer to half of that? Yeah the temps themselves aren’t an issue, but that delta has me concerned about mounting pressure or thermal interface material/paste application
Please do a quick review for the 7800 xt challenger. This model is a bit too big for my liking 👍
Can we get a review for 7800xt sapphire pulse
Can we get some MESA benchmarks please.
Newegg us suggests 800 w PSU
Yes idk why power rarely goes over 300w
Just ordered refence card from AMD for SFF (Dan A4 H2) to replace my RTX2080 SeaHawk Hybrid Back to front build (Air CPU/H20-GPU). Confirmed delivery today for Thursday with Free Pandora game to see if we can melt it on day 1! Benchmrking begins tonight for the outgoing card which is actually fine at 4k in optimised games like lies of P (120FPS - with upscale Balanced). Little concerned about going all in on FSR Vs DLSS as you can notice the shimer on the candeliers in the Home base area when switching between the 2 on the Nvidia....shouldnt need upscaling at all with this though in Lies of P...
Looking forwar to turning on HD Texture packs in FC 6 and buying TLOU or Hogwarts to see if its up to the task or if i should return for 4080 or 7900XT/XTX if i sell my old spare parts.
I went ahead and bought this last night, what a world of difference from the 6600 RX
Powercolor next, they have the best coolers time his time for 7800 xt. Oh and there is a bios switch on this asrock card you missed it.
I have one. Where? Only an led switch
Highest hotspot I’ve seen on this card is 84ish with no undervolt and like 2800+mhz
Undervolted 940-950/2600-2650, 68-72. I might put Kryosheet on eventually
Great card, the Phantom 7800XT is well over 100$ difference from 4070 and it's faster!
no overclocking ?
Excellent video. Thanks 🎉
What about the challenger 16gb oc edition? Is it any good?
Great video! Thank you!
Is it hackintosh ready?
What kind of fan bearings has the asrock?
Do the 7700 & 7800 XT's have the AMD Reset Bug?
does this card makes this electronic noise? I heard some people mentioning this issue in this specific version
I have this card I've seen TBP as high as 424W. I routinely see TBP numbers of 330-385W well above what's published. Also clock speeds as high as 2766MHz when undervolted. I have a 750W PSU and I'm wondering if it is enough because a couple times the PC shut off completely in mid-gaming. I'm thinking this is due to either using a 750W PSU instead of the recommended 800W from AsRock or too high hotspot temps. They can get above 90c. My calculations before buying this had me using a maximum of 596W for the entire PC but that was based on a GPU that was using 250W. This thing uses far more than advertised. What I've taking to doing underclocking to 1100mv and a 2450MHz clockspeed which gives me an actual boost of 2570MHz which is about the published clockspeed. I lose 3-5 fps from 2700MHz but that's okay. It was boosting way too high on it's own so this puts it at stock essentially. This has brought down hotspot temps and I don't see the PC shutting down anymore. I also get exactly 135fps with Borderlands 3 1440p ultra with a R7 5800X. This card is worth every penny imo.
Where did you purchase yours? I've been looking all over for this card but can't find it.
@@ixlndvsxtc I got mine from Walmart. I checked moments ago and it's out of stock there too. I've since learned you apparently have to tune these cards rather than run them from default settings.
What about the fan and coil noise? Seems like this aspect has been skipped...
mine makes no funny noises even when pushed hard..so perhaps the aspect was skipped as its a non-issue
What about normalized noise between this one and the Nitro+? I currently unable to hear the fans of my Nitro+ 7800 XT, so maybe if both card are producing the same level of noise the temps also could be the same? BTW I love the Nitro "no plastic" design!
This card or gigabyte 7800xt oc?
I would personally avoid the Gigabyte variant of the 7800 XT. I hear & read a lot of complaints about them, particularly regarding fan noise and thermal performance in general. (They generally tend to run smaller than other board partner counterparts, so it likely boils down to their cooling solution design.) Also some complaints about Gigabyte's software suite.
its constatly almost sold out so i thnk its doing well
I want this card for a cooler master Q300l? Will it fit?
MERC319 Radeon RX 7800 XT vs ASRock Radeon RX 7800 XT Phantom Gaming vs PowerColor Radeon RX 7800 XT Hellhound which one of these 3 would you recommend?
Can you control the rgb?
the problem i knew for a while is that 7800xt and 7700xt use the same dimensions and also most of them with triple fans model can't fit in my PC case 😂
Right, i have Fractal Torrent Compact, and finding a good looking gpu that fits is hard. 330mm is the max lenght, and so many of 6900,6950,7800xt, are like 332mm, while most of the 7900xt or xtx are 320mm even for top end models.. Doesnt make sense.Annoying.
As a complete newbie according to PC parts picker I can install this card and still have 150 watts in reserve. I have a 650 watt power supply.
Do I still need to upgrade to 700-800 if I buy this card?
does it sag
What about your temps? Mine started fine but the delta is reaching 40c between core and junction temps.
Also my last fan is starting to make noise over %65 sounds like a hdd trying to access data .
I hope ASRock does this design for next gen cards, considering most of this gen was a flop. I'd probably buy it then (it's in my planned performance range either way). I'd hate to see such a nice looking design go to waste on a half baked generation, especially when most cards have been a bog standard brick of almost nothing. If you can swap out the front aesthetic plate as well... More cards should do that, it would allow people to go much further with designing the card into their build without getting destructive in the process.
Compare with Asus tuf Rx 7800 xt please
1:15 raw purchase maybe, but not cost to own.
I just can't deal with the power consumption compared to the 4070, not how they priced it like they do in Europe with the power rates here.
The 7800xt is around €60 cheaper than a 4070, but it will consume over €60 in electricity in maybe 2-3 years of gaming. If it was around €100-150 cheaper than a 4070 it would've been a no-brainer, right now I can't justify the edge in performance it has over the 4070 (aside from Starfield and some other games where it beats even a 4070ti, but I have zero interest in that) while sucking down over 50 watts more at full tilt.
It's like a third more heat into my case and load on my PSU which would be barely rated for it, so I have to upgrade that probably as well and I would have to move fans around in order to even fit the gigantic 300+mm card, while most 4070's would just slot in without issues.
You can undervolt it tho, and it will reach same power efficiency as the 4070.
@@reybel17 True, but you can also undervolt a 4070 with most likely similar gains in power efficiency compared to loss in performance.
Point is that if the base is more efficient, it's probably going to be more efficient no matter how you tweak it, as I don't think AMD has just jacked the voltage to the max in order to keep up with more margin to tweak it. I'm willing to wait a bit for more information to come out though.
Whatever card I get I will probably undervolt in time, but I don't like being beholden to silicon lottery to achieve the thing I want and I don't want to invest the effort required for experimenting to find the floor and stability testing immediately after getting the card, it should just do its job right out of the box with opportunities to tweak it down the line, not immediately be required to be competitive.
@@bami2 Solid points. For me it's such a shame that the 4070 "only" has 12 GB of VRAM.
@@reybel17 Same here, if the 4070 had 16GB it would have been in my PC already.
I'm hoping that AMD will get their drivers together and squeezes a bit more performance (and by proxy power efficiency since the TDP would stay the same) out of the 7800xt in the coming weeks, as I'm quite conflicted giving nvidia more money for something that doesn't at least double the VRAM of my 7 year old gtx1070.
I care mostly for raster performance, not really for upscaling or raytracing so AMD would be the much better fit, but I don't think I can justify it right now.
Lmao, yearly cost of extra 50watts of on an electrical bill, is such a strong point to be made, to prove a worst preforming 4070, is worth it for more money . 😅🤣
I actually want this particular aib 🙃
Asrock 7800 xt
Can you measure how much extra tall it is? Like whats the distance from the end of the L bracket to the edge of the card? I have a compact matx case (D30) and i really like this model but im scared that ill buy it and it will be too close to the glass sidepannel .
This is The Beast! Was thinking about Challenger edition but for 40€ more, wtf I was thinking?! 😅. Looks sick! Sold🎉
Great card from ASRock!
I'm getting more interested in Asrock GPUs. I know with RDNA 2 their Challenger OC models are very good.
On the other hand their MBs have given me too many problems and are SLOW getting out updated BIOSs.
I have an ASRock 6800XT and I'm very impressed, it was the cheapest one on newegg and yet it scores about 6-7% higher on timespy than stock, I can push it to around 15% above stock with undervolting, increasing power limit, and overclocking, and the thing never goes above like 75-80C on the hotspot.
great review
Should I go with this one or the sapphire nitro+ 7800xt performance wise?
Either one is great! I would go with the Asrock only because it’s cheaper and stays a little bit cooler but either one is good
@@bryanyokofich5021 i second that, better cooling means itll last longer
It also comes with 3y warranty compared to 2y for Sapphire
they were supposed to have this in white, very dissapointed...
I mean it would've been nice to include b-roll of you guys unboxing it... Anyway does it come with a cable? if so, DP or HDMI?
If you have a vertical mount and bottom fans blowing on the gpu, you will cancle out the gpu fans. You must have bottom fans pushing out.
And back fan pushing out.
Tested with smoke. Sure enough, caused vram to overheat when fans pushing in. Then swapped and it pulled a huge amount of heat out of the bottom of the case. O11D XL ROG DEBAUR VERSION.
Does asrock phantom have coil whine? I returned my 6950xt red devil cause of crazy coil whine. I’m currently looking at either hellhound or asrock, but I’m unsure about hellhound cause of my previous experience with PowerColor.
Mine doesn't, runs cool and quiet, happy with the Phantom do far
@@georgescookie alright good to know. I have not heard anyone complain about 7800xt hellhound coil whine or noise or temps so it’s number 1 on my list.
Mine none at all, silent as ninja
What’s better? The phantom or the nitro plus??? Anybody got any input? Trying to decide
Phantom all the way
Another great review Wendell, but as someone who's an over 35 year old professional I'd like to know its Development and maybe even Deep Learning/AI capabilities. At this point eveyone should be able to find info on what game stats are but the real meat and potatoes for the grown up professionals want to know is its potential for Technology field related task on top of playing the occasional video game.
Condescending much? Since you're such a grown up professional I would suggest an RX 7900XTX and leave these low-level scrapings to us non-professional gamers.
"Look at me, I have a job!"
Ohh yeas the grown man's game of mass violation of copyright and privacy. That's truly where the meat and potatoes lie
Is R5 5600 and 7800xt overkill for 1080p 165hz for next 7yrs? Is it wasting money/performance?
5600 is not recommended then
I have ordered this card and is thinking about buying the Fractal North case and mount this and a Galahad II Trinity 360 AIO CPU cooler. In theory it should just be able to fit, but unsure. Anybody able to give some input on it?
I ve put it in my Fractal Focus G, card is 33 cm, still have 5 cm free lol
Seems to be a lot of ragging on AMD Radeon and getting stomped by Nvidia. However, when I decided to upgrade this year, I was planning on buying Nvidia and was more familiar with Nvidia cards, but I was really unimpressed with Nvidia's 4000 series cards. It just feels like Nvidia is giving gamers the middle finger with their offerings. The core Nvidia archtiecture is good, but the pricing and packaging (e.g. VRAM configs and tier positioning for anything below the 4090) are kind of insulting. So for the first time ever, I went with an AMD Radeon card and purchased a PowerColor 7800 XT. I'm very happy with it so far; it's a good card for a good price. To me, DLSS being slightly better than FSR is kind of irrelevant as the 7800 XT is powerful enough at 1440p that I don't use upscaling for anything. I think it would be nice if RT performance were better, but truth is I don't even play a game right now that offers RT, and from all the video reviews I've seen, the only RT effect I even notice is RT reflections. Since I'm not planning on getting Cyberpunk, I can't even think of another game that would matter. Maybe in a few more years it might start to matter more.
These cards come with fine coil whine it seems
Mine does not
It's coming off like Wendell is a little fanboy-ish on this card. It might be the value choice for some, but not by some massive margin even gen-on-gen let alone VS NV. When you factor in the comically large three-slot design for this card on top of that and I'm less than blown away.
Would you get this 7800xt for 540 plus tax i live in California so about 600. Or 4070 ti gigabyte gaming oc for 750 after tax. Keep in mind all i do is play COD/Warzone which preforms better on AMD gpus Maybe edit a video here and there but nothing professional. Just genuinely curious to what others think
7800xt for sure. The 4070ti sucks in COD
Hello
I want to buy a new graphics card and I am confused between them. I hope you can help me please
ASRock Phantom Gaming Radeon RX 6800 XT 16GB OC
ASRock Phantom Gaming Radeon RX 7800 XT 16GB OC
I live in Norway, and for your information, 6800 is more expensive than 7800, and this is what makes me crazy.
i have a 4060 and the ray tracing isnt all that fr i just switched back to amd have the same card otw in the mail and it will blow the skirt off the 4060 i already know so who needs rt
Man they really loaded you up with this card.
I wish I was like 'every person' and had 550€ to throw around for something that is far from high end :D
I remember the days when a 200€ GPU could play anything at 1060p60 max settings
Has it avoided the dual screen power shenanigans that the 7900s suffered with??
wendell must disassemble
Good buy for me, would NEVER pay the $$$ nvidia demands.
Lol, chump. The 4060ti is cheaper than this.
@@Wobbothe3rd Not the card model it's the Point and their greed chump.
Linux, please, Linux :D
Why do you think i bought the asrock steel legend 7800xt. Cuz i know my shit boi. Btw, great show...
"Gamers are going to get a little less attention"
Yep, Nvidia couldn't cate less about gamers, we aren't what makes them money.
Boost your frame rate by turning on this setting which lowers the resolution and makes your game blurry. No thanks.
Why buy a big graphics card and try to put it in a small case? I'm sure it's a made-up flaw, don't do it anymore because you look funny)) There is also an ASRock Radeon RX 7800 XT Challenger for such cases.
ASRocks #1 promo channel
Asrock quality is shit though, they only provide 24months warranty.
No this one comes 3y warranty
Still garbage RT performance so i’ll pass
Ray tracing overrated gimmick
@@wrcupz8685 big cope there. Enjoy playing brand new games that barely look better than Fallout 4.
@@ytv6770 I main as a console peasant so I'll live nonetheless
This does not even come close to a 4070, especially if you factor in power draw, 1% lows, and RT. Wendell is just being a straight up AMD shill here. And Quake 2 isnt Quake Arena, btw.
You are the shill here. In Gamers nexus tests the 7800 is consistently better than a 4070 and trades blows with 4070 Ti or even 4080 on some games. RT is very situational and does have a significant performance impact on the 4070
Also power draw? really? Can we stop this bs (on both sides) that power consumption differences between the same class of GPU matter? Only miners that run racks of GPUs care about a few dozen watts of difference between cards
L O L how wrong can someone be lmao holy shit man
@@marcogenovesi8570 what he meant was the efficiency the 40 series runs at lower TDP. My 4070 ti uses 180w as opposed to 280w and only loses 5% max performance. But stays super cool and quiet. And the features from Nvidia allows viable ray tracing fully max settings with smooth fps and picture quality.
@@liquidsunshine697 TDP is 215w for 4070 TI vs 260w for 7800xt. For stock cards.
"cool and quiet" depends from the cooler, these cards also stay cool and quiet.
Aso for the "features from Nvidia" you mean you are another of those that thinks he is playing with everything maxed in 4k by enabling DLSS when you are in fact playing upscaled fullHD. Yeah this card can play everything maxed in fullHD too.
It sold out and I bought myne around noon 2 days ago. 499 worth it.