Fanned Fret Bass Shootout - Dingwall, Ibanez and Spector
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» 0:00 Intro Jam
» 1:41 What does Multi-Scale Mean?
» 3:06 What is a Multi-Scale Bass Good For?
» 6:19 What Are We Playing Today?
» 10:59 The Amps We Are Using
» 11:20 Overview of the Dingwall
» 12:21 Playing the Dingwall
» 14:17 Playing the Spector
» 16:36 Swapping Guitars
» 17:32 Comparing Sound and Playability
» 19:12 Let's Look at the Ibanez
» 19:53 Headless?
» 21:59 Playing the Ibanez
» 23:44 Let's Compare!
» 29:19 Conclusions!
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"Lots of people who like the sound of this are gunna like this bass" -- This is the content I subscribed for
Literally top consumer advice
I do wish they choose the btb805/605 instead of the ehb. Would've been a better comparison between 3 37 inch scale basses
they where mostly a prototype at that time. Now that would make much more sense because the BTBs are getting more available
@your problem fr
If only I could combine the look of the Spector, sound of the Dingwall and the price of the Ibanez :)
You my good sir want a unicorn. Unfortunately they don’t exist.
Sound must win.
Hahahahahahaha
Well put !!!!
👍😁👍
Amen - my bassist uses a dingwall
Sometimes I wanna track demos in drop G when hes not avaliable but i dont wanna spend 2k on a dingwall lol my ormsby didnt cost that!
That bass shape just like Warwicks are horrendously ugly, looks like someones snot
I'm here for the comparison, but I just love your opening jam every time 😃
Beautiful basses. I've been wanting to try a multi-scale six-string.
I fell into Andertons on Friday on the way home from a business trip. Went in looking at a standard 5 string (Ibanez) but with a view to look at multi scale. I was handed the Spector NS Dimension 5 and was so taken by it I went home with it. Don’t worry I did pay before leaving. I absolutely love it. The difficulty of changing to multi scale is much less than going from 4 to 5 string. Lovely looking bass and lovely sound. Staff were friendly, helpful and professional (unlike the service I received from a Brighton based music shop the week before). Thank you Andertons .
From various demos on YT, I really like the sound of the Spector. It sounds full and organic to me where other basses often sound raw and edgy. I do wonder if it cuts through though.
Hope that a EHB "Long-Scale" will come out soon^^ - maybe with an 37" B String or an 4 String with "Dingwall-Scale"
And I hope they started working on a headless bass in Dingwall :)
I’m now the proud owner of 3 Ibanez multi scale basses and have no intention of going back to a standard one. I know they look weird but it took seconds (a minute or two?) to be completely comfortable playing and I wondered why I was ever apprehensive to try one.
Which models do you have and what models of other basses did you use to have and how do they compare? I have a 5 string Yamaha with 35" scale and a 4 string 34" spector. I really wanna save up for a 5 string multi-scale bass
I bought the Headless 6006 silver 6 string Ibanez with the new T1 pickups and I really love it !!!!
I do wish that the pickups were straight up and down instead of diagonal, because it does get in the way of plucking the strings, but it sounds amazing, and versatile.
That with Amp modeling, I can get pretty much any sound I want.
And it's light as a feather, and I have a back back, so great feel and sound on a lightweight instrument is a win for sure !!!
Hope you found something that you like dude !
:-)
Good stuff (information) on the basses. Multiscale a few years down the road for me.
About the middle stand, what brand is it? I know the stands on the left and right are Hercules.
The neck is 5 pieces and the Banjo frets come from Leeland Sklaar because he put mando frets on another bass, but he has a signature series from Dingwall !
The Banjo Frets on the Dingwall was a suggestion from Lee Sklar for his custom Bass ..
I like the active/passive switch idea on the dw. And the magnetic battery cover. Would be great if there was an Ernie that had that feature.
That's the Fishmans, right? If it's like the guitars, then it's Active *voicing* Passive *Voicing*. The system is always active, but there are different voices.
Ebmm short scale stingray is passive, with a volume boost I believe.
Hey Lee, greetings from across the pond. Upload your vids on Rumble too. It's be great to have Andertons available there.
Dat Dingwall sound ❤️
Awesome
Have a 4 string combustion inbound. A multi scale has been on the "if the clouds ever part" and durned if it didnt rain on me a bit.
Not sure what I'll get from it. Most expensive bass in my quiver just a novelty toy I bust out occasionally? My new #1? I'm excited to find out where it lands.
That Dingwall it tight. The Spector need a little adjusting to get that low mid mud cleaned up.
Welp... now I need a multi scale bass LOL Also what are those lights in the background? I need them for my band space
I bought a Dingwall5 with fanned frets last year &was blown away,they are brilliant,yes they are a bit on the pricey side,but worth it believe me,try one you will LOVE it,just don't put cheap 9V batteries in it,use Energizer or Duracell.
I’m really strongly considering one of the Ibanez black label SR multiscales, the only reason I haven’t gotten one yet is the lack of reviews
Man just do it. I’ve never played anything Ibanez has made that has been “bad”.
13:43 I'll name that tune Mr Pink :)
Question, is there any advantage to having fanned frets on a 4-string? Or is it only worthwhile for 5+ strings?
Big Brother is watching ... Chapman made a 4-string multiscale, it makes sense for drop tunings in particular.
Epic climb up at the end....Bingo!...
The pull-push is a hum cancelling split coil/humbucker switch. But you should know by now. :^D
My question is why do you use the Ibanez headless bass which has a 35-33 when you could use the Ibanez BTB805ms which is more closely scaled to the Dingwall having a 37-35? They are also available to purchase and are only 1499 compared to the Dingwall or Spector’s 2000-2500 cost. Love the video but it annoys me that the 806ms isn’t getting the same love.
I'm intrigued by multiscale, problem at the moment at least where bass is concerned is there's not really any particularly affordable models - it's a lot of money to drop on something you don't know whether it will work for you!
you can always go in a store and try some or buy one and return it
Dingwall's Combustion is their affordable line.
Never tried one myself, my Dingwalls are all Canadian, but the Combustions do get great reviews.
I agree. It doesn't have to be low-end Squier cheap, but a multiscale between $500 and $800 would get my attention real quick.
@@eiraflling4981 you think the Canadian models are good ? My NG3 came from factory with small scratches and minor fretboard specs not sanded right ... it was QC'd in Canada
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The Sound on the dingwall is pretty modern not only because of the Bass.
On ngs they use a darkglass-preamp which is quite midheavy and has 2 mid-frequenzies and no treble.
The combustion-series has an emg-threeband.
On the much more expensive Series they use glockenklang, emg or darkglass depending on what you want.
I've had one with glockenklang pre, and it still sounded too sterile for my taste.
@Василий Петров that's the characteristics of glockenklang itself.
They do not have a character of their own.
For myself, I have found a quite good thing.
Using my cb2 with an ebs microbass 3.
I can get mostly any sound out of that combination.
My next idea is getting myself a 3rd pickup and another little switch to have following options:
Switch off 1 - > bridge solo
Switch off 2 -> bridge neck parallel
Switch off 3 -> bridge neck series
Switch off 4 -> neck solo
Switch on 1 -> bridge middle series
Switch on 2 -> bridge middle series + neck parallel
Switch on 3 -> all series
Switch on 4 -> same as Switch off 4 :(
Would love to have last position middle solo, but this would require a special 4 way rotary...
Anyways. A steril sounding bass can be trimmed to wherever you want. This is why the btbs are so much liked
@@michisauer Idk, I prefer to have the sound I'd like at the source, and then work on it down the signal chain. To each his own I guess :)
@Василий Петров that's right :)
Plus, I am playing covers with my band and have to change bass sounds quite much in our sets.
There is always 2 sides to it :)
@@michisauer I'm playing covers with my band too, and I've played a Spector NS5 for a long time and had no problems. It's anything but sterile. This thing was a boat anchor and the neck was humongous. Now I switched to a Tobias Growler 5 with a Yamaha BB415 as a backup, they work fine for me.
still looking for comparisons with Ibanez's 37"
Ok, so your sound is spot on. That's EXACTLY what the Dings sounds like (I have a few including a black NG3).
All custom order Dingwalls have the locking jack BTW. My ABII came standard with it.
The best one for no neck diving?
missed the chance to compare the dingwall against the ibanez btb multiscale. two 37-inch multiscale basses.
Conklin was doing multiscale long long before Dingwall and co. In fact Conklin owns the trademark for the term "fanned fret" which is why every other company says "multiscale".
Ralph Novak in 1989 he was awarded the first patent. That’s why OG Dingwall instruments gave credit in 1989-2002. When did Bill Conklin start Multiscale?
I am trying to decide from these exact two basses but I don't want to be locked up. How do they do in not metal music? Like jazz or sudamerican?
I mainly play with my modern metal band, but I am a session player too so..
What will be next, true temperament fretted multiscale basses?
On the Spector it is a coil split, as with fluence bass pickups it acts like a J pickup coil when split.
Edit: the reason why is there's no volume drop when coil splitting is due to the preamp in the pickup matching the level.
I put some of those pickups into my solar and they made the world of difference, absolutely fantastic
Dingwall Saskatoon Saskatchewan Canada made. Awesome basses.
Only custom ones . NG3 built in China
and super hard to get...I'm a lefty, dingwall referred me to L&M - they can't/won't take time to get me list of what is (apparently ) a bunch of lefties sitting in the sask warehouse collecting dust - ibanez and spectre lefties are avail at my local store, wanted to support a Canadian company but cant find anyone there to take my money!?!?- really to bad! @@ellocalcrew613
Wow
Imagine if Ibanez could do a five string 32-34 multi scale? Or 33-32. I would love that. Decent low strings and sound but a fuller G-string etc.
That 34" scale made my Sandberg's b string sound a bit muddy, so I can't even imagine how 33" would do. With my Spector now, the 35" b string is much more like the other strings, resonant and transparent 👍
I have a Dingwall Droc and an EHB. Both fantastic and extremely versatile. I actually love the Droc in E(drop d) standard and my EHB in B standard.
For you metalheads out there Both can drop a whole step with no issue. The EHB can go a step and a half and still have good tension the Droc can drop 2 and you'll only slightly feel the tension loss. If you want to head amazing examples of both check out the band Teramaze. Their bassist Cameron shreds on both.
IT’s everything you’d “Exspector “ 🤘😜
Dingwall for metal, Spector for jazz, Ibanez for practice.
Just be aware - the Spector has an issue with the pickup on the b-string - the magnet doesn't quite cover the string, so it's markedly more quiet than the other strings; difficult to tell when practicing along, but clear when in a band
17 pages on talkbass hahaha
@@ellocalcrew613 it hurts me so much, because I played it in Andertons yesterday and it sounds and feels so nice
I have and gig one. No issues. Maybe it was isolated to a batch of basses.
I was looking at the four string Spector (would tune BEAD) so I’ll have to make sure on that issue
No issue on mine. Far as I can find it was just that one guy who claimed a problem..
Crazy to see The Legend Mark King's (guitar-playing band-member) brother playing/reviewing BASS guitars?!…Why does anyone think this is normal?! 😄 …I'm with the Dingwall BTW, not least cause Sheldon Dingwall acknowledged/co-operated with Canadian Novax who essentially re-discoved/re-invented the multi-scale/fan fret guitar concept. Novax are suing Ibanez for ripping them off.
I think they are all nice but I think the Dingwall is the the nicest
How about some fanned fretless basses?
Unlined, of course.
You guys are awesome! The strength and talent of a grown up, but the mentality of a 15 year old! 😂😂😂
Yeah I can't understand snyfing from Essex or Eton..
Cort A5 beyond...
Green tinge.... I'd see a doctor about that ;)
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Dissidents by Thomas Dolby.
Basically as per usual Ibanez offer more features and pretty great build quality for half the price.
but it doesnt sound or play as nicely
@@carlchameleon9847 While there are basses really far better than Ibanez, one's just bound to say ibenez is short of sounding better just because it's made in asia (or just because it's cheaper) compared to ones made in the west. thats usually the mindset - but the truth is its also using bartolini pickups and made by the same wood just like other basses made in the west. i guess what im trying to say is - Ibanez could actually be the winner in all these because you actually get ALL the same features from all these expensive guitars for less or half the price even.
@@kylepatrickmaducdoc1719 yes. it is a comparison video. I am comparing. In comparison, the others sound way better.
And the winner is... ESP!
Sorry, I can't deny my love of ebony fingerboards. And they got those Nordstrand big splits
I find the Spectors to be too expensive for their level of quality, at least the spector I had bought and then returned due to the treble control being loose and doing nothing. Also no gig bag or even a good carboard box? It sounded good and looked good, but the Dingwall, in my opinion is better value even at a higher price.
"Dingwall more modern/metal sound oriented" ?
Tell that to Lee Sklar ...
Just to be an ultra pedant - only the Dingwall can be called "fanned fret" due to licensing reasons. The others are "multi-scale"
God has answered my prayers
I love every video that Andertons uploads, but the drum track on these videos always overpowers the bass :(
Watch with headphones
Hate to say that but this level of solo (from intro) played on guitar will be criticized so hard :D
Nice basses, but feels like listening to two maniacs who can't take their turn in the discussion...
As others have said, I'm sure Nathan is a lovely guy but his presentation style render Andertons bass videos unwatchable for me.
I found this video difficult to watch due to Nathan’s presentation. When reviewing the sound and playability, the little fast riffs and harmonic displays show nothing of value. Playing a groove is far more informative. It would be helpful if the presenter concentrated more on the instrument. Other than that, thanks fellas ❤
None taken! 🤣
@@nathanking1970 No offence meant Nathan, you are clearly a very talented player with the ability to perform many styles and get the best out of the instrument. I simply found it difficult to compare the two instruments when such different styles are being played - listening to the same styles and grooves would be so much more informative. Sorry if my previous comment came across as a bit harsh, but I'm really interested in the basses and would like clear, informative info. Very best
Got love it when the bass player is higher then guitar.. NOt
I almost stopped watching in the first 10 minutes because the guy on the left kept interrupting at points that are actually important tech wise like these are 2k-3k instruments - people interested in these actually do care about the exact specification of the scale length 😂😂
he calms down later on and its much more watchable again.
You two are impossible to listen to. I feel like I am locked inside a British pinball machine the night before Brexit...
Sorry - I really do love Andertons, but Nathan is acting like a knob in this, as he often does IMHO. Nathan adds litttle of use and cannot seem to get past his Jaco fixation or his ego - his input put me off the whole point of the video. Conversely, Lee is great, much more objective, gives all the necessary info and is much more engaging, providing all the informative one needs. Although I'm a bass player, I really struggled with Nathan's presentational style and ego - does he ever get down to the fundamental bass territoty that most bass players use?
I totally agree.. To the point where I can hardly bear to watch Anderton bass vids
Agreed, he strikes me as an ADHD individual - well meaning but frequently interrupting others and coming across as over bearing and somewhat self centered. While I don’t doubt he’s a friendly and entertaining bloke in real life, unfortunately he distracts from the point of these videos. And I say this as someone with ADHD myself, as I’m quite familiar with his personality. Feels like I’m watching a video of my unmedicated old man, no offense intended.
none of them have any low end! Precision, jazz or Sire basses, make them sound ...thin...