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Duuuude!I love your enthusiasm!You seem a like you would be a killer dude to hang out with👍But the reason I commented is because you simply fucking rock🤘You are a killer bass player my friend,you are gooood🙌!
Ian, I am not seeing anything I hate about Dingwall basses....EXCEPT THE PRICE!!!!! Wish they would make a sub $1000 model with fan frets so us mortals can own one! They have China operations so they could potentially do it...but at the cost of quality. One of the big reasons they have to sell for so much is the supply chain to make in China, ship back to Canada for inspection, then shipped out again to dealers and consumers. All that costs money!
Why are the pickups so closely spaced? Wouldn't it be better to put the neck pu closer to the end of the fretboard? Seems like that would give more distinct tones.
Well said. I actually dig mine mostly for the P bass (middle pup ) tones Bridge pup does nothing for me, at least not yet (in my journey so far). Same with the bridge and middle. The “all 3” is sweet with the right gain. Love it. DROC on!
I'd like to know what is the, ", dark glass sound, and why is it theirs,? I find their products kind of underwhelming, and not just because I bought 3 of their amps and every one of them had to be returned because of a defect (I even bought two different darkglass amps), but also because their overdrive sounds thin and too digital sounding, and because they tend to stick a lot of stuff on there you don't need or have elsewhere already, like an eq, or a headphone jack, or a blend knob,, etc, so they can charge $300 - $500 for an over praised distortion pedal. I don't even think there is a dark glass sound, I think everyone plays a $4,000 bass thru them and that's the sound you are hearing. Darkglass doesn't call it the dark glass sound, they call it the modern bass sound in an attempt conflate their brand with modern sounding bass guitars like dingwall, to make you think your bass is obsolete without dark glass products. I have an aftershock pedal from source audio that can pull off every sound dark glass sells on their product line and more, but I don't even prefer that, id rather have a Sana Amp or a tone hammer as far as pre amps go, but I get decent amplified sound already with my rickenbacker and Mesa TT800.
@@buckemptier that was a really long winded way of saying you don’t like the way dark glass products sound dingwall basses come with dark glass preamps from the factory, hence the association between dingwall and “the darkglass sound” at least that’s how i see it anyway
I have a fifth hate for you: Picking close to the bridge. As you move to the D and G string you risk hitting the bridge with your picking fingers unless you compensate and move diagonally down the strings.
I’ve played a Dingwall for years and love it. The only complaint is that the first time I tried an entry level Combustion I thought it was great - then I tried a top end Z. It was way more great. If you try a Combustion and love it just buy it. Don’t try anything else. Close your eyes and run out of the store with your new bass. Don’t look back.
Should i get a 5 string or a 4 String? • I already own a 5 string Sadowsky Metroline though its a jazz bass. • I was looking for a 4 string for my set cause i dont have one. But theres only a 65 usd difference from 4 to 5 Strings 🙈.. i want a 4 but Dingwall is famous for its balanced low strings🙈.. Any help from owners please ???
I went to play my NG3 the day of this video and found a dislike that I didn’t think about and that’s that you can not us a right angle Jack has to be a straight on which in my live setting isn’t to bad because my wireless is a straight Jack but at home playing it’s a little annoying tho the flip side is the input Jack is built very well with them and basically lock in so it’s still not that bad just something I thought of
I agree, I have a NG3 too, and angled plugs are underrated because they do not unplug by themselves, and when you do by hand you just have to grip them around the plug making no stress on the cable end. The thing is though: This is about Dingwalls only, and would probably be like that even if they didn't come with fanned frets. So it's a Dingwall thing rather than Fanned Frets thing. You have a hard time using wireless plugs too in their recessed jacks. Like Boss, Line6 and the like. The thing is with this design is that you can rest you bass anywhere, on the floor, on a guitar stand, or on the couch without having the plug resting on something. It ends up "free in the air" and nothing supports it or wreaks havoc on the angle that occurs. I would LOVE when some bass builder discovers the idea that puts a regular Stratocaster jack plate, but puts it ON THE BACK OF A BASS right built into the back cavity cover. Beliveve me, not anyones legs or thighs are touching it, and it gets out of the way. But as it is, you can only use straight plugs on them too.
When palm muting on NG-2 the bridge/srting support has a sharp corner that sticks painfully into the back of my palm. It just needs to be filed down but I don't have the heart to do it.
I know what you mean. My main bass happens to be a Dingwall Z3 with a Darkglass onboard preamp but I have no interest in the heavy distortion Djent stuff. Just clean tones for me.
What I love is the design functionality wise, what I hate is the logo and the headstock lol. Petty but real. The higher end models with the "D" on the 12th fret... common, pure cheese, and not even good cheese. Just meh. But I would still play one all day & night for the sound and overall comfort / look. I love the body shapes of all models and the fan fret aesthetic blows normie's minds into smithereens. Not a D'roc guy on the surface even though I might be one deep inside... I'll leave that up to god.
Totally been saying the first fret F gave me the same feel as my finger scraped over the nut at the G…..that is prob my biggest complaint….and the body on these are so thin, that my arm seems like it has no resting spot and my weak ass arm, gets fatigued a bit. I should go hit some weights now that I say this hahaha
I just got an Ibanez EHB1505 MS Blue....Fantastic! No problem adjusting after a few days of practicing my bands songs on it. Very surprised and more confident in my level of playing!
The one thing I hate about multi scale basses is how the angles of the frets mess with your brain making it look like the neck is twisted in some strange way.
Even though I *am* a metal guy, I had this image that all it was good for is that "modern" scooped bass tone. Thanks to Ian, I'll be getting this bass with 5 strings soon!
I've only played two multiscale basses, both ibanez - a short scale headless, and the blacked out iron label one. I didn't like either experience. The short scale felt like a toy and the iron label was better but nothing remarkable. But I'm kind of obsessed with Dingwall's now after a long time of being meh about them. For me it was when I was recently laying down a track on my Sire V10, and the low B was just not doing what I needed it to do. I used to have a Lakland 55-02 with the 35" scale and that was a true pleasure to play...So I can only expect that the Dingwall 's 37" B string will solve all my problems, right?! The only question is which one do I get, and how many strings?
I own an Ibanez EHB and a BTB, both multiscale and there is absolutely nothing I dislike about it. They're my favorite instruments to play just for the feel of the strings!
I had to file the bottom corner of the nut on my Ibanez EHB1005-SMS to soften it because of contacting it when fretting C on the B string. Now I never notice it. Haven't really had trouble with short fretting down neck. I find the angle of the frets up neck to be much easier to use. I agree the first fret on B and E are the biggest challenge on a multi-scale.
No not really. I've discovered that it is considerably more confusing, and takes learning time, to adapt to a regular 5 string bass from a regular 4 string bass. The thing people do, that is they're used to regular 4 string, and then jumps abruptly to a 5 string FANNED FRETS, and then blames the fanned frets for throwing them off. If you go from regular 4 string to a fanned fret 4 string you wouldn't notice a thing. 1-3 minutes tops. I do switch back and forth without problems.
The only thing I don’t like about them is that they are too even. I like that Notes in different parts of my fender’s neck sound different. It’s a feature not a bug. On the other hand…
ok, I've played a dingwall fanned fret and found it not a great experience, but you have 100% sold me on that bass. I want it. Now. please. But 5 or 6 string please. I'll wait.
The only thing I hate about a Dingwall is that I don’t own one. I might have had a longer list but this video made me forget about whatever I thought I was thinking about Dingwall basses. Excellent work, excellent bass and excellent points of information about fanned frets🎉❤
@@captainchunk4078 😂😂😂 I said the same thing one of the best P bass tones ever!! I want that 6 way rotary for the true musicman tone like lowend Lobster did!
@@bassimprovjams3772 you’re a bad man for planting that seed. Great idea. That way you at least get a jazz bass too! I just played some Sabbath. Oooofff. Suits you sir!
I SOOOOOO covet that bass. Watching this I managed to knock the aesthetics off your Hate list... because I could agree with anyone who says the shape is unlovable, but then we'd both be wrong. Then the chord thing - I'd work to get over it. So now only have to get over 03, 02 and 01. Well... If you want weird - I play Chapman Stick, so feeling the nut? is a big MEH! I always fret heavily because I'm a self-taught, terrible bassist LOL. That's binned point 02. I don't have a point 01 either. Excellent video, BTW. Thank you Ian... your enthusiasm makes me want to be playing bass from dawn 'til dusk.
I don't know what I love or hate about such an instrument. I'll have to wait six months to get my first handmade in Italy custom Achilles 5 bass by Overload :) I was searching for a fanned fret high level bass and I was about to buy a Dingwall but in the end I went for a custom bass which would have costed me even less than a new made in china Dingwall...
Lol and it's probably not going to stop hahaha. It's lost on anybody who isn't a regular viewer but for those who are, it's that extra icing on top. To us anyway XD
So. Here in the UK there are a few retailers of Dingwalls, but sadly, none where I live (Liverpool) I have been checking out the reviews and videos on the Combustions and the NG3's for about 18 months now, but wasn't sure if one would be for me. Back in November I was in Birmingham at a Nightwish concert and realised that I was closer to real live Dingwalls than I was at home, so I called up Bass Direct. They said they had some in stock and I could pop in and try one out. When I got there, Ash, set me up with two basses, an NG four string and a combustion five. My Ideal version would be the NG3/5, but they didn't have one in. Impressions. First off, lighter than I was expecting (both 4 and 5 string) the fit and finish on these chinese models seemed to rival my USA Fenders ( pleasantly surprised ) My Fenders are strung with 45-125's. Ash said the Dingwall had 45 - 128's on it. Similar but they felt so different to play. The tension seemed to be less on the Dingwalls compared to my Fenders and the string to string feel was very even and felt easier to play. The array of tones out of both of these basses was amazing. After about 45 mins I left Bass Direct and told both my daughters that we were walking back to Liverpool, as I had to sell the car to buy a Bass! In conclusion, I wanted one before I played one. Now after playing a Dingwall I MUST get one! (Some serious GAS going on) So, have to let one of my Fenders go to fund part of the Dingwall purchase. ( working on it ) Thank you Scott, Ian and Sharon for this and other amazing, informative videos you do. Keep up the great work. Thanks also to Ash and the guys at Bass Direct for letting me get my hands on their Dingwalls! :) There will certainly be a Dingwall in my future
Something to hate: if you favorite brand of strings doesn't have a long enough set in your favorite style you are kinda f'ed. The 36.25" to 37" scale doesn't work with every string.
Another topic regarding especially Dingwalls, not other ff brands. Their use of thin mandolin frets. That's why some people detects "inharmonics" in the upper range of the thicker strings on a 5 string ff bass. The upper harmonic content overshadows the fundamental because the "stop" that the small fret makes isn't sufficient enough to stop the string vibrating beyond the frets stop or witness point. On a grand piano, the thicker the string the dampers that stops them strings from ringing are both broader in dimensions (along the strings length) and often consists of three or more dampers too. It's the same when you dampen the strings with just one finger at your picking hand. The thick B-string doesn't stop vibrating until you use at least 3 fingers to stop it. The harmonic node (naturally) is at a too wide point along the string. Same with the frets and the actual bridge saddle. The small point of the small frets is just not sufficient enough. The longer scale you have on a string, the harmonic node point is longer along the string, you can get quite approximate with it, and not have to nail it exactly by thousands of a millimeter. I would love to if Dingwalls came with thicker frets (not just taller). I feel those small frets are bit sluggish, when pressing down and releasing the fingers. There's some video of a guy trying the D-roc out, and he demonstrates the "buzz" that occurs when lifting his fingers off of the G-string which has normal scale (34 inch) on the fanned fret bass. It's always a short "prft" when lifting off any finger. So this had nothing to do with fanned frets as such, but the fret size. Maybe tapered frets? They go thicker as they go down under a thicker string. The thicker the string, the more mass and fatter/wider fret? But at the end of the fret at under the g-string, it's thinner? :-) I do have very much experienced this on other basses too. On some fret spots the string resided on a needle, so to speak, and the result is a dead spot (ringing only at an octave above). As fast as I filed the fret down to a more flatter/wider level, that "dead spot" or "one-octave-above" ringing totally disappeared and it was like all the other frets and strings ringing. Fundamentals. Of course, one had to calculate and take into account that all other frets followed suit, so this particular pesky fret didn't come out levelled lower than the others. The thing is that this has very little to do with Fanned Frets as such but Dingwalls only. Regular basses with super thin frets are just as bad. It is especially heard very clearly when doing slides and glissandos from the first few frets till one fret avobe the 12th fret. It dampens and the tone dies out and the resulting decay is 4th or 5ht harmonic only at no volume at all. Thicker/wider frets keeps the tone all the way up. It is the problem when some people tries out a Dingwall for the first time, and first time a fanned fret bass. They think those inharmonics here and there are due to the fanned frets design, while it's not. It's because the thin mandolin frets. So they diss the thing from the get go.
But, what I hate about a multiscale bass is that I improvise... a lot... in my regular playing (I improv fills a lot etc), I solo a lot, I've played since 1983 and was professional in my teens so it's extremely second nature for me to play 34" scale (or even 32" for a while when I owned but super high end "A" before I found myself needing 5+ strings). I can't play a multiscale reliably without misfretting, because I've played far too long on standard scale. I have trouble with 35" also, although am currently playing my backup 6 which is 35", but I mess up on it too frequently. I'm used to playing without having to look. And I play fretless professionally too... and that would just be a joke on a dingwall for someone who plays like I do, all over the board, improvising and doing jazz or rock or rnb or hard rock or metal... whatever it is, I need to be able to trust that my hands know the instrument. I'm not interested in mastering the instrument all over again. But, for that awesome E string, I can see the advantage... and would love to give it a go again one day.
Worst thing about my Dingwall is just using the upper register and the frets not aligning with the markers because of the extremity of the fan, but that’s a pretty minor adjustment for the tone and playability
Love the shape of the body and the sound. The thing that drives me crazy is that the neck looks twisted to me. I know it is an optical illusion, but it tricks me every time 🤯
I LOVE LOVE LOVE my Dingwall 5/3 Combustion and desperately want a 5 string D-Roc in vintage burst. That being said, one thing I never see mentioned is the need to modify the right hand (plucking) technique. I find I have to move my hand forward as I move toward the higher pitched strings, basically following the path of the pickups, in order to keep a consistent tone across the strings. Otherwise, it's as if I'm plucking closer to the bridge in the G string and closer to the middle on the B string. It took a bit of getting used to, and there's really no way around this when making leaps across octaves, but I was not happy with the tone until I figured this out. That being said, I occasionally pick up my other basses because I feel bad for them watching me play the Dingwall all the time, but I always go back. There's just no comparison.
yeah man great dinger video! i have the 4 string d roc and it's just sick! it's like playing a musical bazooka! so much sound coming out of this passive axe that it is almost unbelievable. also, it is the living breathing essence of what a rock n roll bass should look like and sound like. growling monster of rock! love it but also hate some of it. the strap holes and push buttons suck for me. im used to regular fender p bass pins. the way this bass hangs on me with the strap positioning is bad it pushes the neck away from me so i can only see the fretboard if im playing sitting down which takes away from the rockhardness of this bad ass bass. anyone else have this problem? i like to see my fretboard and look at my fretting especiallly with the fanned frets. im gonna have to modify this thing some how tho i hate to eff with the near perfection of it. gotta see my frets . also those pushbutton strap locks pop out randomly and ive almost dropped this pricey beast in the middle of playing on multiple occasions. does not give me confidence in my machine whereas all my fenders are steady eddies. no stress no mess. i guess i need to screw non pushbutton pins in?
I own an NG-3 and even though I do play metal I actually play pop or funk most of the time with that dingwall clean tone in the jazz position And I swear to god I would never trade this bass for any other brand in the world
I honestly have no hate for the multiscale... I love the look, I love the feel, i love the tone... Ok there is one thing, It's kind of bummer having to get the longer strings to fit my 37 inch Dingwall
Dingwalls might be known as modern metal monsters, but damn if they aren’t flexible. In the right hands they can really be pushed to do almost everything. That’s a great instrument right there.
Hey you guys, Scott or Ian. What podcast did you guys mention Leland Sklar while discussing fan fret players? It was hilarious. I want to share it with him. Leland, that is. It would be great if you cats get back to me. Thanks. Cheers
@@IanMartinAllison Thanks man. I sent a video to you with Niko Bolas talking about Leland's sound he captures from his Dingwall. Sent it on Snapchat . Cheers
Only thing I hate about it is that it's a 4-string. I have an '82 MIA (as all 82's were) Fender Jazz that has the same neck profile as the '65 Jazz I bought in 1966 (was stolen in 1976 with all my touring gear), but has a white-bound all maple neck with 70's era pickup spacing. It just has the best sound and is soooo comfortable to play. So I don't need or want a 4-string. HOWEVER, I would really LOVE a Dingwall 5-string!
I’m gonna be making a bass later this year (i’m a woodworker) and it’ll be fanned fret dingwall-scale bc they sound so good. Just wish there was more content online that wasn’t metal (would love some r&b)
My peeve with fanned fret basses is that if you spend a lot of time on them, the next time you pick up your fretless you are all over the place trying to re-calibrate on the fly. Slight adjustments in muscle memory really matter on a fretless. The transition from standard to fanned frets is, as you say, easy, and barely noticeable for most of the neck, but fretless basses are much less forgiving. You could argue that the solution is to buy a multiscale fretless, but that way madness lies. They exist, but I've never seen one in the wild, and I think I know why. If you already play a standard fretless you will be so incredibly out of tune at first, that it will be like learning intonation all over again, only with a way more complicated set of shapes to get used to. Once you did finally master it, muscle memory would have so reset as to render all standard scale fretless basses unplayable without another period of adjustment.
My 6-String NG3 sounds Awesome, but: 1. A little bit Heavy 2. Only one Truss Rod (for a 6-String?) I Wish and i waiting for a Dingwall SL Super Light. The 4 String D ROC is less Heavy and looks awesome. Thanks
Hey guys - Dave from The Bass Channel here; I have had shoulder and wrist problems off and on for a few years, so I was living exclusively in medium and short-scale land for awhile. UNTIL I discovered the Dingwall DRoc, and had to grab one. It's my #1 now, and it's not even close - just effortless to play even with the extra stretch on the low E. Hell, I had a 5-string Dingwall back in the early '00s but I didn't bond with that one NEARLY as much as the DRoc 4. Loved this video, love that bass!
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Apparently they have something special for me. 😂
Me as well. Dammit! Got my hopes up.
I think they're using your logo too: youtube.com/@T.e.l.egramofficialScottBass
(In case you want to block them ☝️)
This is widespread. I’ve had the same message from … @ Telegram profiles on a couple different pages now. This is truly a scam and something needs to be done
Well done on Rio! 😁
I want to try one. I’ve been playing a G&L 2000 for forty years.
Duuuude!I love your enthusiasm!You seem a like you would be a killer dude to hang out with👍But the reason I commented is because you simply fucking rock🤘You are a killer bass player my friend,you are gooood🙌!
Great video, really interesting!
Ian, I am not seeing anything I hate about Dingwall basses....EXCEPT THE PRICE!!!!! Wish they would make a sub $1000 model with fan frets so us mortals can own one! They have China operations so they could potentially do it...but at the cost of quality. One of the big reasons they have to sell for so much is the supply chain to make in China, ship back to Canada for inspection, then shipped out again to dealers and consumers. All that costs money!
You can get a used Ibanez btb605ms under a 1k
I just love watching you play man! So much love! It inspires me to go back to my bass
🧡🧡🧡
Why are the pickups so closely spaced? Wouldn't it be better to put the neck pu closer to the end of the fretboard? Seems like that would give more distinct tones.
Hey Ian, are you just on standard 45-105 strings for Drop Db/C# here?
Yes indeed
One thing I hate is finding strings that fit my multi-scale 5 string. Only Extra-Long will work for that B string.
Hate: the price :'(
As a Dingwall owner they are SO much more than that darkglass sound I hope more people show them off as well as Ian did
Well said. I actually dig mine mostly for the P bass (middle pup ) tones
Bridge pup does nothing for me, at least not yet (in my journey so far). Same with the bridge and middle. The “all 3” is sweet with the right gain.
Love it. DROC on!
I'd like to know what is the, ", dark glass sound, and why is it theirs,? I find their products kind of underwhelming, and not just because I bought 3 of their amps and every one of them had to be returned because of a defect (I even bought two different darkglass amps), but also because their overdrive sounds thin and too digital sounding, and because they tend to stick a lot of stuff on there you don't need or have elsewhere already, like an eq, or a headphone jack, or a blend knob,, etc, so they can charge $300 - $500 for an over praised distortion pedal. I don't even think there is a dark glass sound, I think everyone plays a $4,000 bass thru them and that's the sound you are hearing. Darkglass doesn't call it the dark glass sound, they call it the modern bass sound in an attempt conflate their brand with modern sounding bass guitars like dingwall, to make you think your bass is obsolete without dark glass products. I have an aftershock pedal from source audio that can pull off every sound dark glass sells on their product line and more, but I don't even prefer that, id rather have a Sana Amp or a tone hammer as far as pre amps go, but I get decent amplified sound already with my rickenbacker and Mesa TT800.
@@buckemptier that was a really long winded way of saying you don’t like the way dark glass products sound
dingwall basses come with dark glass preamps from the factory, hence the association between dingwall and “the darkglass sound”
at least that’s how i see it anyway
@@buckemptier im ordering a sans amp fly rig to go with a dingwal d roc 5 i have on order :)
Oh big surprise, your bass sounds so much more than your bass,
I think you're biased haha but that's alright,
I have a fifth hate for you: Picking close to the bridge. As you move to the D and G string you risk hitting the bridge with your picking fingers unless you compensate and move diagonally down the strings.
Agree. That took some getting accustomed to, especially on a 5-string. That said, the Loves outweigh the Hates by a lot, IMHO!
Crazy good playing along the tracks and clear, growly bass sound, great!
Starting a video with that goddam sound got me all excited for the commercial i was about to see but then dropped me on my head
I’ve played a Dingwall for years and love it. The only complaint is that the first time I tried an entry level Combustion I thought it was great - then I tried a top end Z. It was way more great.
If you try a Combustion and love it just buy it. Don’t try anything else. Close your eyes and run out of the store with your new bass. Don’t look back.
Should i get a 5 string or a 4 String?
• I already own a 5 string Sadowsky Metroline though its a jazz bass.
• I was looking for a 4 string for my set cause i dont have one. But theres only a 65 usd difference from 4 to 5 Strings 🙈.. i want a 4 but Dingwall is famous for its balanced low strings🙈..
Any help from owners please ???
Please do a lesson on the Rio bass line. Please!
I went to play my NG3 the day of this video and found a dislike that I didn’t think about and that’s that you can not us a right angle Jack has to be a straight on which in my live setting isn’t to bad because my wireless is a straight Jack but at home playing it’s a little annoying tho the flip side is the input Jack is built very well with them and basically lock in so it’s still not that bad just something I thought of
I agree, I have a NG3 too, and angled plugs are underrated because they do not unplug by themselves, and when you do by hand you just have to grip them around the plug making no stress on the cable end. The thing is though: This is about Dingwalls only, and would probably be like that even if they didn't come with fanned frets. So it's a Dingwall thing rather than Fanned Frets thing. You have a hard time using wireless plugs too in their recessed jacks. Like Boss, Line6 and the like.
The thing is with this design is that you can rest you bass anywhere, on the floor, on a guitar stand, or on the couch without having the plug resting on something. It ends up "free in the air" and nothing supports it or wreaks havoc on the angle that occurs. I would LOVE when some bass builder discovers the idea that puts a regular Stratocaster jack plate, but puts it ON THE BACK OF A BASS right built into the back cavity cover. Beliveve me, not anyones legs or thighs are touching it, and it gets out of the way. But as it is, you can only use straight plugs on them too.
Ian, can't believe you stopped before the bridge on Rio.
Ian your playing is just exquisite! What I hate about fan fretted multi scale basses is that I don't own one .
Hate: nearest Dingwall dealer is about 7 hours away, so I won't be trying one any time soon.
This video makes me want to find somewhere to try out this bass! I’d buy it outright, but that seems insane.
When palm muting on NG-2 the bridge/srting support has a sharp corner that sticks painfully into the back of my palm.
It just needs to be filed down but I don't have the heart to do it.
You're an amazing player - so in the pocket !
Cheers Scott!
The ubiquity of the Dingwall/Darkglass combo is a little exhausting.
I know what you mean. My main bass happens to be a Dingwall Z3 with a Darkglass onboard preamp but I have no interest in the heavy distortion Djent stuff. Just clean tones for me.
Oh, that's the one, I already have xD though I changed strings to something thicker...
Hey, is there a lesson for learning "About Damn Time"? I love that funky bass line!
Been playing my Dingwall for over 10 years now. Its the absolute best.
Curious though, what petals are being used in the video??
I believe this will have been Ian's HX Stomp (he has his own presets available!)
Awsome video!!!!
Just beautiful
Great playing. Great bass.
The only thing i don't like about that bass is that i can't afford one, it's definitely my favorite in the giveaway bass line up.
What I love is the design functionality wise, what I hate is the logo and the headstock lol. Petty but real. The higher end models with the "D" on the 12th fret... common, pure cheese, and not even good cheese. Just meh. But I would still play one all day & night for the sound and overall comfort / look. I love the body shapes of all models and the fan fret aesthetic blows normie's minds into smithereens. Not a D'roc guy on the surface even though I might be one deep inside... I'll leave that up to god.
great vid n playing as usual ian 🤘
Totally been saying the first fret F gave me the same feel as my finger scraped over the nut at the G…..that is prob my biggest complaint….and the body on these are so thin, that my arm seems like it has no resting spot and my weak ass arm, gets fatigued a bit. I should go hit some weights now that I say this hahaha
I love multi scale basses I hate I don't have one and they are very expensive
That ending... The disrespect! We need to organize a search party or something.
MWAHAHAHAHAH 😈
I just got an Ibanez EHB1505 MS Blue....Fantastic! No problem adjusting after a few days of practicing my bands songs on it. Very surprised and more confident in my level of playing!
The one thing I hate about multi scale basses is how the angles of the frets mess with your brain making it look like the neck is twisted in some strange way.
Never heard of that Cody Fry dude. That was groovy af. Going to have to check that out!!
Even though I *am* a metal guy, I had this image that all it was good for is that "modern" scooped bass tone. Thanks to Ian, I'll be getting this bass with 5 strings soon!
That blue Dingwall is gorgeous and you crushed it on RIO.
I've only played two multiscale basses, both ibanez - a short scale headless, and the blacked out iron label one. I didn't like either experience. The short scale felt like a toy and the iron label was better but nothing remarkable.
But I'm kind of obsessed with Dingwall's now after a long time of being meh about them. For me it was when I was recently laying down a track on my Sire V10, and the low B was just not doing what I needed it to do. I used to have a Lakland 55-02 with the 35" scale and that was a true pleasure to play...So I can only expect that the Dingwall 's 37" B string will solve all my problems, right?! The only question is which one do I get, and how many strings?
By the way, great video and playalongs! Doesn't the guy from Duran Duran play a dingwall now?
I so need one of those. Would sound great on the punk inspired stuff my band plays.
You just made my day playing PTH ❤
I own an Ibanez EHB and a BTB, both multiscale and there is absolutely nothing I dislike about it. They're my favorite instruments to play just for the feel of the strings!
I had to file the bottom corner of the nut on my Ibanez EHB1005-SMS to soften it because of contacting it when fretting C on the B string. Now I never notice it. Haven't really had trouble with short fretting down neck. I find the angle of the frets up neck to be much easier to use. I agree the first fret on B and E are the biggest challenge on a multi-scale.
How do you if you need to switch back and forth with 34-inch basses, particularly fretless? Will you be very confused? Or you could adjust?
No not really. I've discovered that it is considerably more confusing, and takes learning time, to adapt to a regular 5 string bass from a regular 4 string bass. The thing people do, that is they're used to regular 4 string, and then jumps abruptly to a 5 string FANNED FRETS, and then blames the fanned frets for throwing them off. If you go from regular 4 string to a fanned fret 4 string you wouldn't notice a thing. 1-3 minutes tops. I do switch back and forth without problems.
The only thing I don’t like about them is that they are too even. I like that Notes in different parts of my fender’s neck sound different. It’s a feature not a bug. On the other hand…
I've got a hate - the price! 😱
It's hefty for sure, but sounds sooo killer!
Can't disagree with that, just wish there were some multiscale options without 4-figure price tags!
ok, I've played a dingwall fanned fret and found it not a great experience, but you have 100% sold me on that bass. I want it. Now. please. But 5 or 6 string please. I'll wait.
The only thing I hate about a Dingwall is that I don’t own one. I might have had a longer list but this video made me forget about whatever I thought I was thinking about Dingwall basses. Excellent work, excellent bass and excellent points of information about fanned frets🎉❤
You can order one from Bass Central and just make payments and you get it when it’s paid off. Just a lil tip that’s how I got mine 🤘😎
@@bassimprovjams3772 you’re a bad influence 😆 I love mine. Best p bass tone I’ve ever heard. Well put together and plays easy.
@@captainchunk4078 😂😂😂 I said the same thing one of the best P bass tones ever!! I want that 6 way rotary for the true musicman tone like lowend Lobster did!
@@bassimprovjams3772 you’re a bad man for planting that seed. Great idea. That way you at least get a jazz bass too! I just played some Sabbath. Oooofff. Suits you sir!
@@captainchunk4078 😂😂😎🤘 exactly homie!!
Loved this video! I only thing I hate about a Dingwall is that I can’t put a wedding ring on it.
I never realized how sick the bass line on Mr. Brightside was!
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So you need to make a video like this one on all the basses you are giving away.🤩
I wish you could solo the neck and then have a bridge + middle position. I am surprised that they don't let you toggle those positions.
No hate for the fan fret basses, but there aren't that many options to get strings for them other than some two brand and custom order...
I SOOOOOO covet that bass.
Watching this I managed to knock the aesthetics off your Hate list... because I could agree with anyone who says the shape is unlovable, but then we'd both be wrong.
Then the chord thing - I'd work to get over it. So now only have to get over 03, 02 and 01.
Well... If you want weird - I play Chapman Stick, so feeling the nut? is a big MEH!
I always fret heavily because I'm a self-taught, terrible bassist LOL. That's binned point 02.
I don't have a point 01 either.
Excellent video, BTW. Thank you Ian... your enthusiasm makes me want to be playing bass from dawn 'til dusk.
I love that my 5 string Dingwall has the same string tension across all the strings. So many 5 string basses have floppy B strings.
So true!
dig it!
I don't know what I love or hate about such an instrument. I'll have to wait six months to get my first handmade in Italy custom Achilles 5 bass by Overload :) I was searching for a fanned fret high level bass and I was about to buy a Dingwall but in the end I went for a custom bass which would have costed me even less than a new made in china Dingwall...
Yes dude! Enjoy the custom! 🔥🔥🔥
Would love to try one of these but I hate maple necks with a passion not my thing they sound good though otherwise :D
The sound reminds me of my Aria Pro. Very cool bass
This Story Arc of the Stolen Dingwall is GOLD!!!
Lol and it's probably not going to stop hahaha. It's lost on anybody who isn't a regular viewer but for those who are, it's that extra icing on top. To us anyway XD
I dunno but build a bass, win a school could be a cool contest for some 🤷♂️
So. Here in the UK there are a few retailers of Dingwalls, but sadly, none where I live (Liverpool) I have been checking out the reviews and videos on the Combustions and the NG3's for about 18 months now, but wasn't sure if one would be for me. Back in November I was in Birmingham at a Nightwish concert and realised that I was closer to real live Dingwalls than I was at home, so I called up Bass Direct. They said they had some in stock and I could pop in and try one out. When I got there, Ash, set me up with two basses, an NG four string and a combustion five. My Ideal version would be the NG3/5, but they didn't have one in. Impressions. First off, lighter than I was expecting (both 4 and 5 string) the fit and finish on these chinese models seemed to rival my USA Fenders ( pleasantly surprised ) My Fenders are strung with 45-125's. Ash said the Dingwall had 45 - 128's on it. Similar but they felt so different to play. The tension seemed to be less on the Dingwalls compared to my Fenders and the string to string feel was very even and felt easier to play. The array of tones out of both of these basses was amazing. After about 45 mins I left Bass Direct and told both my daughters that we were walking back to Liverpool, as I had to sell the car to buy a Bass! In conclusion, I wanted one before I played one. Now after playing a Dingwall I MUST get one! (Some serious GAS going on) So, have to let one of my Fenders go to fund part of the Dingwall purchase. ( working on it ) Thank you Scott, Ian and Sharon for this and other amazing, informative videos you do. Keep up the great work. Thanks also to Ash and the guys at Bass Direct for letting me get my hands on their Dingwalls! :) There will certainly be a Dingwall in my future
John Taylor is due a little more love in general.
That was the most fun video I've seen a while. And now I want a Dingwall. I can get by with only one kidney, right?
Yooooo, you didn’t need to go so hard on Rio 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 That bass brings a lot more to the table than I expected.
Something to hate: if you favorite brand of strings doesn't have a long enough set in your favorite style you are kinda f'ed. The 36.25" to 37" scale doesn't work with every string.
No active pickups? No neck-thru? The price tag? Very limited options for string manufacturers? You really couldn't find a 5th thing to "hate"?
Another topic regarding especially Dingwalls, not other ff brands. Their use of thin mandolin frets. That's why some people detects "inharmonics" in the upper range of the thicker strings on a 5 string ff bass. The upper harmonic content overshadows the fundamental because the "stop" that the small fret makes isn't sufficient enough to stop the string vibrating beyond the frets stop or witness point. On a grand piano, the thicker the string the dampers that stops them strings from ringing are both broader in dimensions (along the strings length) and often consists of three or more dampers too. It's the same when you dampen the strings with just one finger at your picking hand. The thick B-string doesn't stop vibrating until you use at least 3 fingers to stop it. The harmonic node (naturally) is at a too wide point along the string. Same with the frets and the actual bridge saddle. The small point of the small frets is just not sufficient enough. The longer scale you have on a string, the harmonic node point is longer along the string, you can get quite approximate with it, and not have to nail it exactly by thousands of a millimeter. I would love to if Dingwalls came with thicker frets (not just taller). I feel those small frets are bit sluggish, when pressing down and releasing the fingers. There's some video of a guy trying the D-roc out, and he demonstrates the "buzz" that occurs when lifting his fingers off of the G-string which has normal scale (34 inch) on the fanned fret bass. It's always a short "prft" when lifting off any finger. So this had nothing to do with fanned frets as such, but the fret size.
Maybe tapered frets? They go thicker as they go down under a thicker string. The thicker the string, the more mass and fatter/wider fret? But at the end of the fret at under the g-string, it's thinner? :-)
I do have very much experienced this on other basses too. On some fret spots the string resided on a needle, so to speak, and the result is a dead spot (ringing only at an octave above). As fast as I filed the fret down to a more flatter/wider level, that "dead spot" or "one-octave-above" ringing totally disappeared and it was like all the other frets and strings ringing. Fundamentals. Of course, one had to calculate and take into account that all other frets followed suit, so this particular pesky fret didn't come out levelled lower than the others. The thing is that this has very little to do with Fanned Frets as such but Dingwalls only. Regular basses with super thin frets are just as bad. It is especially heard very clearly when doing slides and glissandos from the first few frets till one fret avobe the 12th fret. It dampens and the tone dies out and the resulting decay is 4th or 5ht harmonic only at no volume at all. Thicker/wider frets keeps the tone all the way up.
It is the problem when some people tries out a Dingwall for the first time, and first time a fanned fret bass. They think those inharmonics here and there are due to the fanned frets design, while it's not. It's because the thin mandolin frets. So they diss the thing from the get go.
But, what I hate about a multiscale bass is that I improvise... a lot... in my regular playing (I improv fills a lot etc), I solo a lot, I've played since 1983 and was professional in my teens so it's extremely second nature for me to play 34" scale (or even 32" for a while when I owned but super high end "A" before I found myself needing 5+ strings). I can't play a multiscale reliably without misfretting, because I've played far too long on standard scale. I have trouble with 35" also, although am currently playing my backup 6 which is 35", but I mess up on it too frequently. I'm used to playing without having to look. And I play fretless professionally too... and that would just be a joke on a dingwall for someone who plays like I do, all over the board, improvising and doing jazz or rock or rnb or hard rock or metal... whatever it is, I need to be able to trust that my hands know the instrument. I'm not interested in mastering the instrument all over again.
But, for that awesome E string, I can see the advantage... and would love to give it a go again one day.
Love Ian, he just sold me this bass, that I don't really need) But it sounds so cool in his hands) its amazing
Worst thing about my Dingwall is just using the upper register and the frets not aligning with the markers because of the extremity of the fan, but that’s a pretty minor adjustment for the tone and playability
Love the shape of the body and the sound. The thing that drives me crazy is that the neck looks twisted to me. I know it is an optical illusion, but it tricks me every time 🤯
I LOVE LOVE LOVE my Dingwall 5/3 Combustion and desperately want a 5 string D-Roc in vintage burst. That being said, one thing I never see mentioned is the need to modify the right hand (plucking) technique. I find I have to move my hand forward as I move toward the higher pitched strings, basically following the path of the pickups, in order to keep a consistent tone across the strings. Otherwise, it's as if I'm plucking closer to the bridge in the G string and closer to the middle on the B string. It took a bit of getting used to, and there's really no way around this when making leaps across octaves, but I was not happy with the tone until I figured this out.
That being said, I occasionally pick up my other basses because I feel bad for them watching me play the Dingwall all the time, but I always go back. There's just no comparison.
The body sort of reminds me of the Gibson Firebird that Rhett Shull covered on his channel.
yeah man great dinger video! i have the 4 string d roc and it's just sick! it's like playing a musical bazooka! so much sound coming out of this passive axe that it is almost unbelievable. also, it is the living breathing essence of what a rock n roll bass should look like and sound like. growling monster of rock! love it but also hate some of it. the strap holes and push buttons suck for me. im used to regular fender p bass pins. the way this bass hangs on me with the strap positioning is bad it pushes the neck away from me so i can only see the fretboard if im playing sitting down which takes away from the rockhardness of this bad ass bass. anyone else have this problem? i like to see my fretboard and look at my fretting especiallly with the fanned frets. im gonna have to modify this thing some how tho i hate to eff with the near perfection of it. gotta see my frets . also those pushbutton strap locks pop out randomly and ive almost dropped this pricey beast in the middle of playing on multiple occasions. does not give me confidence in my machine whereas all my fenders are steady eddies. no stress no mess. i guess i need to screw non pushbutton pins in?
Great, finally they did a Dingwall commercial video...🤣
Love that bass.
Small hands plus longer scale length means it's harder to reach longer spans.
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I own an NG-3 and even though I do play metal
I actually play pop or funk most of the time with that dingwall clean tone in the jazz position
And I swear to god I would never trade this bass for any other brand in the world
bruh TIL Fau Ferro is a type of wood and not some popular musician that I don't know🤦♂
I honestly have no hate for the multiscale... I love the look, I love the feel, i love the tone...
Ok there is one thing, It's kind of bummer having to get the longer strings to fit my 37 inch Dingwall
It’s very hard to get the ultra long scale strings sometimes
Well dammit… way more versatile than I expected
Dingwalls might be known as modern metal monsters, but damn if they aren’t flexible. In the right hands they can really be pushed to do almost everything. That’s a great instrument right there.
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omg cant wait to get the standard d roc 5 i ordred in same color last year patiently waiting..
Hey you guys, Scott or Ian. What podcast did you guys mention Leland Sklar while discussing fan fret players? It was hilarious. I want to share it with him. Leland, that is. It would be great if you cats get back to me. Thanks. Cheers
I think in the most recent episode!
@@IanMartinAllison Thanks man. I sent a video to you with Niko Bolas talking about Leland's sound he captures from his Dingwall. Sent it on Snapchat . Cheers
Only thing I hate about it is that it's a 4-string. I have an '82 MIA (as all 82's were) Fender Jazz that has the same neck profile as the '65 Jazz I bought in 1966 (was stolen in 1976 with all my touring gear), but has a white-bound all maple neck with 70's era pickup spacing. It just has the best sound and is soooo comfortable to play. So I don't need or want a 4-string. HOWEVER, I would really LOVE a Dingwall 5-string!
I’m gonna be making a bass later this year (i’m a woodworker) and it’ll be fanned fret dingwall-scale bc they sound so good. Just wish there was more content online that wasn’t metal (would love some r&b)
Never had the chance to play a fan fretted bass. Maybe one day.
That's the most beautiful bass i have seen in years...love the sound
My peeve with fanned fret basses is that if you spend a lot of time on them, the next time you pick up your fretless you are all over the place trying to re-calibrate on the fly. Slight adjustments in muscle memory really matter on a fretless.
The transition from standard to fanned frets is, as you say, easy, and barely noticeable for most of the neck, but fretless basses are much less forgiving.
You could argue that the solution is to buy a multiscale fretless, but that way madness lies. They exist, but I've never seen one in the wild, and I think I know why. If you already play a standard fretless you will be so incredibly out of tune at first, that it will be like learning intonation all over again, only with a way more complicated set of shapes to get used to. Once you did finally master it, muscle memory would have so reset as to render all standard scale fretless basses unplayable without another period of adjustment.
I think that Rio by Duran Duran should absolutely be in Ian's "Bass Albums" series 😍
Good call
@@IanMartinAllison 🔥🧡
Absolutely
YES, PLEASE!!!
My 6-String NG3 sounds Awesome, but:
1. A little bit Heavy
2. Only one Truss Rod (for a 6-String?)
I Wish and i waiting for a Dingwall SL Super Light.
The 4 String D ROC is less Heavy and looks awesome.
Thanks
Good points dude! Thanks for your contribution 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Hey guys - Dave from The Bass Channel here; I have had shoulder and wrist problems off and on for a few years, so I was living exclusively in medium and short-scale land for awhile. UNTIL I discovered the Dingwall DRoc, and had to grab one. It's my #1 now, and it's not even close - just effortless to play even with the extra stretch on the low E. Hell, I had a 5-string Dingwall back in the early '00s but I didn't bond with that one NEARLY as much as the DRoc 4. Loved this video, love that bass!
damm this must be one of the coolest basses PERIOD