Spector Dimension 5 vs Dingwall NG2 5 (featuring 14 Different Preamps)
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- Today we're comparing the Spector Dimension 5 and the Dingwall NG 2 5. Both basses have the same scale lengths but completely different tones. The Dimension is equipped with the Fishman Fluency System featuring a 2-band EQ, coil split, and voice switch, whereas the NG 2 comes stock with the Darkglass Tone Capsule 3-Band Preamp and a 4-way pickup selector switch. The onboard EQ of each bass remains flat throughout the video and all Spector tones have the pickups set to dual coil unless otherwise specified. This video mainly cycles through the different voicing options of each bass with the Spector's Voice Switch and the Dingwall's Pickup Selector.
All of the playing examples are identical through each preamp, so think of this video like the old Choose Your Own Adventure books. Timestamps for each preamp are below so you can skip over to your favorite. All preamps with selectable distortion are engaged but set quite moderately (with the exception of the Alpha Omega and B7K).
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0:00 Direct Signal (No Preamp)
3:14 Ashdown ABM-300 (with Ashdown 115 Cabinet)
6:29 Tech 21 SansAmp Bass Driver v2
9:44 MXR Bass DI+
12:59 Darkglass Alpha Omega Ultra
16:14 Ampeg SCR-DI (with SVT 810E Cabinet)
19:29 Laney Digbeth Preamp (with Laney 212 Cabinet)
22:43 Darkglass Vintage Ultra
25:59 Tech 21 Steve Harris SH1 Signature SansAmp
29:13 Walrus Audio Badwater
32:28 Neural DSP Darkglass B7K Ultra Plugin
35:43 Tech 21 VT Bass Rackmount
38:58 Tech 21 GED-2112
42:13 Gallien-Krueger Legacy (with GK 210 Cabinet)
45:28 Orange OB1 (with SVT 810AV Cabinet)
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Best way to demo anything, period. Awesome video and helpful
I feel like the Spector has more character, and the Dingwall is more neutral. I really prefer the Spector, but from a recording standpoint, the Dingwall may be easier to mix and shape in post. For me, it would depend on the situation.
The Dingwall is a lot easier to record with but it's still not a Fender Precision Bass in the studio with sick mids, medium high bass and slightly under mid 5 Treb.
Yeah!!!
I do suspect the ding wall we cut through a mix without having to do a lot of work … doesn’t have a lot of subs things going on, but that’s not the most important range for a mix
Spector is way to scoopy, definitely going to get lost in the mix
holy shit this is the most thorough instrument demo ive ever seen. thank you so much
Great presentation Fellas! 😀 I really liked the Hi Fi Scooped tone on the Spector and both pickups in parallel on the Dingwall. Very tasty through the Ashdown! -Brent, VT
A great comparison video shows the strength and weaknesses of both basses.
The Digbeth preamp finally! Was really looking forward to hearing that one!
We’ve got a demo coming very soon
It depends on what style of music you want to play, but in this comparison I would definitely pick the Spector.
Great this solved my dilemma... now I just have to get both!
Sound wise I like the spector the best. the tech 21 sansamp pedal and the GK legacy amp were my favorite preamps out of these. Hopefully we get more shootouts like these soon!
Please tell me you guys reamped this and didn't have Josh playing live that whole time! 😀 I hope the Big Man ate his Wheaties that day! 😆
Just got my NG3 last Monday and absolutely love it!!! It’s untouchable! It’s in a league of its own!!! They talk of the B string is Just something no phone or headphones can justify until your playing one and it’s pumping through your speaker “AMPEG” lol
i like how the Dingwall sounds. im sooo excited to say ive got a Combustion 5 coming in November
It would be nice to see this kind of presentation done for other basses too, mostly to see how that myriad of preamps suits each one especially in the lower notes register. Bass tone wise exclusively, I prefer the Spector here, Dingwall sounds kinda thin
I don't think you can go wrong with either. I'm a massive Dingwall fanboy, but the Darkglass preamp although excellent isn't my preferred choice. That Spector hi-fi sound is absolutley amazing. Great comparison, thank you for putting in all of this work.
The Spector has some good tones but the Dingwall smokes it in my opinion and I’ve been a Spector guy for a long time
It's wild because i feel the exact opposite. the dingwall sounds like it's just doing variations of the same trick, but the spector genuinely sounds quite a bit more varied. LOL
I could never get into the Spector for some reason however they are killer basses! Definitely not knocking them one bit
@@ToLiveistoDie yes but those variations sound better. Better mid presence.
Spector all day long.
Agree here also a spector guy for me the Fishman system kinda guts the spector of its tone and character glad the hp series exists now
GREAT video, great job!
I really wanted to like the spector but the dingwall sounds so much better
It's quite a controversial choice: The Spector is highly mid-scooped, while the dingwall it's the opposite and it has A LOT of mid presence
Great demo, thanks for putting it together. I'd love to see a similar comparison with the Ibanez BTB MS series, and ideally with amp settings left at 12 oclock (where it makes sense) even if it may not sound the best
Another great comparison. Just wish you had included examples with backing track
i own 4 string versions of both can't decide on a favorite, love them both
Was just about to pull the trigger on that Spector , glad I watched this. The Dingwall absolutely smokes it .
Would love to see this exact same video with an NG3 instead of an NG2.
That Spector sounds great but I'm pretty sure this sound would be hard to hear in a mix... And I prefer the Warwick sound 😁
Tool is an excellent example. Adam's guitar is heavy on the mids whilst Justin's mids are scooped. Even Danny's drum & Maynard's HZs are set for minimal impedance.
Saw them live last year and could hear every note perfectly.
Best live mix ever!
@@TenFalconsMusic his mids might be scooped on his eq but those wals churn out signal like nothing else, thick in the midrange and lowend but with top end sparkle - overall his sound is most similar in concept to the dingwall thru the GK in this video (middy bass into scoopy tone stack)
Spector is my favorite bass company nice to see them jump into multi scale finally
I own a couple Spector including a Dimension and I never considered Ding a rival. Is like comparing a sumo to a Ninja imo, pickups, Ding has 3 piccups, the Spec has 2. Spector's rival is Warwic. Ding's rival is Kiesel, which also uses same 3 piccup configuration. Ding also costs about $1000 more than the Spec or Kiesel and I don't do gig bags. No Loccing Hardshell case? No sale. I outgrew gig bags in high-school 😂 that said, all the brands I mentioned here build excellent Basses, can do well with any of those 4 so really is just matter of which one fits ya style and taste and ya budget. Dude here Sounds good with both. Excellent video.
This rules, thanks!
Spector, however I love the finish on the Dingwall
dingwalls are ugly
Can we expect a comparison of the BTB to the dingwall?
Awesome video, and a monumental undertaking! Now how about the Dimension 5 HP???😅
You guys should mess with Neural DSP"s Parallax
Damn Im thinking of getting one of these, not sure which one!!!!!!
what an epic shootout
Both sound like great basses to me id be good with either one
I love Spector and Dingwall.. and isolated the Spector probably sounds better with its scooped mids.. but in the mix Dingwall reins supreme.. both are excellent basses but my over all choice is Dingwall..
Another example of what sounds better in the bedroom vs in the mix..... I prefer the Spector in this vid but I can tell from experience that that super scooped sound will get lost in the mix... Plus the pickup locations are completely different. Hard to get hifi scooped sounds from 2 bridge pickups mashed together. Eg Warwick thumb or Musicwoman..:)
Tech 21 and Orange ftw!
I've owned both. I preferred the Spectors tone. Loved the dingwalls neck though.
Хороший обзор, правильный. Спасибо!
The Spector sounds great. However, my NG2 is not that thin. Listen to Nolly and that’s what I’m getting using a Dark Glass Vintage Microtubes Deluxe.
I like the Spector for some stuff. I like the Dingwall for other stuff.
I do have a Spector bass and I do want to get a Dingwall bass I think both are exceptional instruments but the Dingwall tune is very clean and the Spector tune is more compressed
I hear that too.
The Spector sound (to me) overall cleaner and less "honky" with most of the pedals and amps, but the Dingwall sounds downright nasty when you hook it up to anything Darkglass, as well as with the GK.
Either will do the job, but I'm looking for nasty.
Dingwall by far. I'm a Spector fan but in this comparison the dingwall sounds better in almost all settings. It just cuts through the mix better
What mix?
Here to stay
The spector sounds a lot darker... I like it more when isolated. But the Dingwall has all the 'twan twan' punch and clank of new steel strings which should be easier to record and blend in a mix I guess. Anyone has experience either recording or mixing that green beauty in a heavy/death metal band context?? If so, was needed to brighten up the sound from the eq pre DI or is not a problem that should worry the player (in my case potential buyer hehe)?? Enlighten me!! honestly I have not enough experience recording as I would like to
It's really weird how thin the Dingwall comes out in some of the clips, but I think the best setting for it is with both pickups in series. And if it were an NG3 version I think it'd be even better.
The Dingwall NG2 actually sounds much better, even better than the mentioned Spector. In this comparison, the sound of Dingwall seems to me perhaps modified by reducing the bass part. Isn't that a Spector holdup? 🤔
Wow, I have so many thoughts on this I dont even know how to comment.
To put it short, I think Dingwall sounds better on cleaner settings (Spector classic is good too), while spectors full voicing works better with heavier distortion. And I dont like hi-fi scoop at all
I like aspects of both honestly. Love the percussive punch the Dingwall can deliver, but it sounds very sharp and tinny, especially on the lower strings (higher pitch). I like the mellow sound of the Spectre, but it often sounds too subdued and not enough percussive action.
I want so bad to love the new Spector basses but, for me, the Spector sound is maple body wings and EMG pickups. Getting your piece of the pie on the extended range/fanned fret market… I get diversification. I feel like, in spite of the standard scale, a Spector Euro with EMGs would impart that sonic character and probably crush in this context even though it would be a more apples to oranges comparison.
Really tough call between these two. I'm listening through my hi-fi speakers and the Spector sounds massive, but in some other comparisons I prefer the Dingwall. If I EQ my P-bass to have boosted low end like the Spector (using pedal or amp EQ, obviously), objects in the room start to chime in with their own vibrations and things start falling off the shelves. If I EQ to sound more like the Dingwall, maybe with some light pedal overdrive, I feel like it's going to get muddy when I play with a couple guitarists. I'm sure there's a much larger range of tones that can be produced from these as well.
Just comparing these two as a way to get a clean low B string (and play it up the neck so I don't have to drop tune as much), but also to give myself more versatility - as in, which sound for which song / physical setting. A living room or small bar isn't great for massive low end as noted above, but outdoors it might sound "natural" with no additional reverberations. How you EQ mids and highs is more dependent on what the guitar players are doing in the particular song.
You know you’re a true bass fanatic when you knock shit over in your house.
We bought a brand new house, and I immediately knocked off a glued on mirror, and it was big
Went to the local bass shop and tried the 5 string Spector and Dingwall Combustion 5 and 5 string NG-3). The Spector sounds good but the ergonomics of the Dingwall were a siren song. Walked out with a Combustion mostly because I don't care for the solid color paint jobs of the NG. Combustions are beautiful in comparison, especially the no-pickguard version. I actually preferred the tone and EQ on the NG but I have gain and EQ on multiple pedals and my amp so I'll survive. Pre-amps are easily replaced, wood grain is not.
There is something about Spector sound that is just fuckig Badass
Listening through my monitors (ik MTM's) neither sound weak, thin, anemic or any other synonym. Maybe those who say that's how they sound are using cell phone or subpar computer speakers?
Maybe but that’s often how people end up listening to music. If your bass won’t cut through, only people with fancier stereos will hear you
Still dont get fishman pickups. Put some emg there
For me, if the track had more melodic bass playing, I'd have the Spector, because of the nice high end
But for more """regular""" bass playing on the lower strings, I'd take the dingwall
Both are great , I preffer Spector but in this case i dont like none because the strings are very low , the buzzes too much for me...
The pickup placement is not the same on both basses. So any comparison involving the neck pickups is apples and oranges.
The idea is for us to be able to compare similar settings, not exact ones. One point of comparison is better than none.
@@bassandkeys8178 Sorry, I didn't mean to sound negative. At least the bridge pickups are in similar locations.
The spector sounds like korn forsure. Cool
The Spector has so much more character and warmth. I’m kinda surprised. Warmth isn’t something you go to Spector for traditionally. The Dingwall sounds tinny in the upper mids in comparison
GK sounds the best !! imo
I feel like demoing the NG2 without also trying with a pick does it a disservice when it's Nolly's signature bass
I'm not a biased person, but i own a spector euro lx5 lefty, love spector
Spector is my favorite, more low end. BUT - I can imagine that the Dingwall is better suited for a metal band with, e.g., double bass drum and downtuned guitars, it would cut through the (heavily low-laden) mix. Therefore, as always: it depends ... on your individual preferences, on what your playing, etc.
But I absolutely appreciate the tons of work to make this video! Great job, folks!!
The spector just sounds more full and better to me. The dingwall just sounded watered down. Wonder how the dingwall ABll would sound compared to the Spector
I have an ABII. Hands down my favorite bass. Gets very close to sounding like a p-bass, jazz bass, and stingray depending on the settings. And the low b is just incredible.
@@PhilosophicalCat I've been paying more attention to dingwall bass they've won me over
@@PhilosophicalCatGood to know, thanks.
the thing about the dingwal sound for me, and i love dingwal too, it's that dingwal will get lost in the mix, spector has presence, body, thickness, growl
dingwall with darkglass is perfect marriage, other than that spector sounds way better
Here to stay KORN
They both sound kinda robotic and artificial to my ears. But i am not a fan of actives. I vote for Spector. By the way, the Sansamp bddi v2 killed the other preamps.
Dingwall sounds to bright and tinny for most of the demo.
and the spector is too scooped
I feel the Dingwall is just made to be used with Darkglass
There is so much to digest from this post. I like the Spector, no I like the Dingwall, no I like… The sound is so situational and depends on the amp.
Spector missed the mark with those anemic sounding pickups. IMO …looks nice though
I personally find them to be at completely opposite ends of the spectrum. I’d want something in between the two.
yo METALLICA Suicide & Redemption!!! 🤘
& HARDWIRED!!
spector sounds way better imo
Both basses sounded good and most preamps. I said most because the Badwater... Sounded like a guitar preamp, not a bass one. Those frequencies they chose, well that ain't doing it for me.
The B string on the Dingwall sounds like just another string rather than an add-on. Sadly it still sounds a lil loose to my ears on the Spector
Spector for the win😁👍
Disclaimer: I have never owned a Spector or Dingwall. Just going off what I'm hearing.
Spector through gallien-krueger was sweet
K O R N !!!!!🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
🎸
What color is that dingwall bro
So, Dingwall if you want to play treble.
I’ve got an NG3, too brittle sounding and bright. Selling to get a Spector.
I would have liked to hear the darkglass A&O clean... I have one. It's Overrated.... But still would have liked to hear it apples for apples..
Don’t care for either tbh. I’d love to hear the emg loaded dimension in the mix tho
SPECTOR FOR LIFE
5 POTARDS ?! PWOUAAH pas besoin de tout ça, déjà 4 potards c'est bon. Un son plus chaud pour la Spector, et surtout un tarif moins élevé quand-même!
What’s the song at 1:33?
Spit out the bone by Metallica
haha Josh has a third member for knob control 😆
Yours truly! 🙋🏻♂️
@@ChrisCaccamiseMusic 🤣 oh man. I need a third member like you then.
Dingwalls always sound rather awful to my ear. That Spector crushes this one!
In solo and unmixed they dont sound good, ill give you that, but they are miles better than "hifi scooped" humbucker basses, the spector is only lows and highs, the dingwall has clearer lows and a lot of mid character and klang. If you dont want to disappear in the mix, use a dingwall, the audio engineer will thank you for it too. Also this guys picking technique is absolutely abysmal and makes both basses sound far from their best.
I was also wondering how they compare in the mix?
I'd bet you the dingwall Sounds a lot better and clearer in a mix. That being said im not a dingwall fan
with no distortion, the spector sounds better with a fuller sound. With distorition I think Dingwall sounds better , more attack!
Surprisingly, the spector sounded very... un-spectorlike. Very scooped and clanky, not a fan. The only preamps that made it shine are the tech 21
SPECTOR!!
The Dingwall for me just sounds over exaggerated or forced, where as the Spector seems way more natural. So it’s the Spector all day for me.
Dingwall all the way
should i say spector and dingleberries?
Ibanez EHB1505MS eats both for breakfast, and that's coming from a Spector owner and enthusiast...
lol with just a 35'' B string? I don't think so
@@Facu_Roldan you should do some homework
@@Facu_Roldan a 35 foot B string would be fucking thunderous.
@@Facu_Roldan yes, even as a 35' - the clarity on low end is surprisingly good and Nordstrands are just... *chefs kiss*
@@Facu_Roldan Scale length has nothing to do with performance, just string tension. Lakland easily keeps up with these multi scale basses with just a 35" B.
the more i listen to this, the more the dingwal sounds like a soda can
Korn!
Whats the name of the Maiden song?
probably too late but Wrathchild
Thnx a lot! Its never too late