"LUKA WILL NEVER BE THE FACE OF THE NBA"
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Gilbert "Anybody But The White Guy" Arenas
At this point it's basically just "Anybody But The Slav".
add SAS and Shaq to the mix
Pretty pathetic
Naaah I think anyone but that part of Europe
@@nathanolson3135thank you for some reason Ppl are conveniently leaving out the anti Giannis dialogue and campaign Gilbert was on long before his jokic and Luka takes.
Honestly, it just feels like Gil is jealous on how much better Luka, Jokic, Giannis, Embiid and European players in general are compared to him.
Can't forget embiid
I guarantee you there are more European players that are worse than Gil than better.
@@SDTheGhost23that doesn't even matter in this circumstance. He's not hating on Nurkic is he.
@@interviewwithdevin2902 Not sure how I forgot about him lol. Thanks for the reminder
@@navonmyhand7999 it does matter when your saying he is jealous when euro players in general are better than him when there is like a total of 5 out of 60 euros who are better
Agent Zero = someone who's only won a single playoffs series in a 10 year career
He gave up his whole career to keep a tough guy bit alive, you can’t make this shit up lmao
Don’t use a players career to criticize their takes, most of the best analysts were all role players in the nba. This is a bad take for its merits, you don’t need to go that far into it.
Y but those role players got brain this dude is stupid as fuck
Right! He is soo overrated and bro swears he’s a legend. I can name soooooo many better PGs than him. I don’t care that he was a bucket, yes he was but other than that, he offered NOTHING ELSE!
All these American ex-NBA players that hate on Europeans (specifically white ones) hate the fact that these guys are not only better than they ever were but also make them feel like they are being shown more love than they ever were in their careers. Its jealousy and bitterness mixed with xenophobia and racism.
i agree with all of this; it feels more like jealousy and i'm not even white myself i feel i have to even say that lol as a disclaimer to prove my point. so tired of the whole 'luka can't defend' excuse
@@redheadforlife8526he’s getting the harden treatment. No matter how much he improves defensively he will always be remembered for his d when he was young and in charge of the entire offense. I’m not saying either are great defenders but a lot of people dismiss the fact they they improved and are average to above average on d while being best in the world offensively.
Luka is arguably the best player in the NBA
Not even close
@@Peca-sz6ytyou’re quite literally a casual
Best offensive player or scorer maybe. He doesn't do enough on the defensive end yet to be the best overall imo.
It seems relevent that Jokic leads him in PER, Player Impact, Offensive Rating, Net Rating, VORP, RAPTOR, LEBRON, BPM, DBPM, OBPM, WS, WS/48, OWS, DWS, BLK%, STL%, TRB%, fg%, efg%, ft%, ts%, with more blocks per game, fewer turnovers per game and a much better record, along with a far superior ability to raise the floor of his teammates.
On other points though: On ppg, Luka has the greatest usage rate in NBA history, takes by far the most shots in the NBA - so far ahead of the next closest guy that the difference in attempts between him and #2 (Brunson) is the same as #2 to #15. His efficiency, however, is 55th in FG%, 37th in 2p% (22nd among non-centers) and 69th in 3p% among players shooting more than 3 three-pointers a game. (18th out of 40 in 3p% among the high-volume shooters who take 6 or more 3's per game).
In other words, Luka has the ppg lead because he takes an absurd more amount of shots than anyone in the NBA, on record-setting usage, not because of elite shooting.
On assists, Jokic still has more assists per possession than Luka. Luka's 0.8 more assists are purely because he plays 10% more minutes with the largest usage rate in NBA history. Also, his 9.8 assists as a point guard are dramatically less above average for his position than Jokic's 9 assists per game as a center, making Jokic's assists that much more valuable.
On rebounds, Luka actually only gets 1.9 contested rebounds a game (the only kind that provide value to his team) - all the other rebounds (~80% of them) are freebie, uncontested rebounds that his teammates let him have to pad his stats.
His 1.9 contested rebounds are 93rd in the NBA, and only 1/3 of Jokic's (who is 2nd in the NBA at 5.6, only 0.1 behind Anthony Davis).
Matter of fact, Luka's contested rebound% (the percent of his rebounds that he has to contest for) is only 20.9%, good for 393rd in the NBA. That is not a typo.
So while Luka is an outstanding player, the value he's providing to his team is not on Jokic's level.
3rd or 2nd , i have jokic n embiid over him
Who fucking cares where the player is born. Love the game, not the circumstances of which you are born.
Come on Gil, get it together...
It's hilarious because 70+ years ago they were saying the same shit about black people. If Bill Russell was still around he'd give Gil a history lesson.
The problem is, Gill doesn’t know how to get it together. He has been a hot head fool his whole career / life. He is like a high schooler who had a good 4 year run at most and can’t get over himself. Big man child. Especially that gun situation 🤦🏽♂️
Gil has some issues
Honestly, Luka is a pretty good choice. His English is excellent, he can speak fluent Spanish so good for NBA expanding their brand in most of Latin America, he's pretty extraverted and willing do do media stuff unlike Jokic and to a lesser degree Giannis, he's young and conventionally attractive, his game will age very well so we don't have to worry about a D-Rose situation nearly as much, he's in a massive market (Dallas-Ft. Worth is the 4th largest metro area in thr nation in the second biggest state) and he is fun for casuals to watch.
He has an advantage over basically any other young player in multiple ways. No one has the combo of his skill, entertainment value, good media personality and location in a huge market.
He just needs to stop yelling at the refs so much (though this didn't hurt Bron and MJ so who knows) and at least get to an NBA Finals.
Great comment
Yeah, but he isn't American, he is a freaking Slav from Eastern/Central Europe and also his dad is a Serb and Luka is proud of Serbian heritage, he even listens to Serbian patriotic songs and Serbs are Russian allies. So, no, he can't be the face of the NBA.
@@student99bg but why? He can't be the face of the NBA because he likes foreign music and wasn't born on the right patch of dirt? I don't buy that - do you simply think NBA fans are too xenophobic?
@@handeggchan1057 Media and NBA owners are and they decide whom they will push. Luka is already the most popular NBA player outside of the North American continent, but Americans will never make someone like Luka or Jokić the face of their league. To be fair, Jokić wouldn't want that anyway
@@student99bg Sure, Serbs in the grand scheme of things are Russian allies, but that doesn't mean that every particular Serb is. I mean, there are Russians (not ethnic Russians, but actual Russian citizens) fighting in the Ukrainian army against the Russian invaders and hoping to overthrow their own fascist government.
Dude… put Luka on that Celtics team and they have already won 2 titles…
Facts Celtics with Luka would've been a dynasty especially in Leastern conference he'd already have 2 or 3 straight finals Appearances Appearances at the very least. Luka will win a ring in june this year haters will be on life support he finaly has help and like Jordan Luka will prove everyone wrong
I doubt it y’all seem to forget that Tatum plays both sides of the ball! That’s why they’re so good
@@cbjones2218 both sides not good enough
Put Luka with the Celtics and they play completely different.
You got to cater to Luka in order to make him more effective.
This isn’t Boston memo throughout his history.
@@cbjones2218 Tatum is not good enough to be the best player on a championship team
Gilbert is xenophobic. I’m not surprised about the statement he made about Luka.
He doesn’t even try to hide it aswell 😂
@@darkest64bro luka doesn’t win games . He doesn’t just deserve mvp because he is white . Y’all gotta stop the bull shit
@@beankobe8205 bro what are you even talking about? The mavericks are literally 6 games of the 1 seed.
@@darkest64 luka sucks a winning games . What are you stupid or something?
@@beankobe8205bro u people really don’t watch lol luka is even better in the playoffs
Ngl i love hate watching that podcast, right now i am dying of laughter hearing them talk and trying to reason how Luka ain't even 1st allNBA team and how Ant is the actual MVP hahaha
Cringe
Someone get Gilbert out of the kitchen, he's burning the house down 🔥🔥🔥
Put Luka on the Celtics he has multiple conference finals appearances in his 4 four seasons and maybe even 2 or 3 rings and maybe even a mvp already by now 😂
Over Tatum??
@@Chris56076 yes over Tatum u slow gang?
@@Kenken_the_goat nope you slow and got recent bias. Celtics got the number 1 seed while Luka fighting for his life to make the playoffs 😂
@@Chris56076Tatum is overrated asf bruh
@@Chris56076he just cannot score the ball like Luka. Lower usage rate, 6 less PPG, all while being less efficient from the field.
Imagine if Dallas won it all like Denver last year. All mouths shut. Jokic and Luka are incredible. Love them, fellow slavs
Luka will forever be him, just for soning the entire suns squad by himself.
that team hasnt been able to recover from that till this day lol
Thank you for challenging Gil and the rest of the media on these unfair takes. Keep it up bro
That they pretend that European players are held to a lighter standard is so hilarious. Do they not remember every non-American player before Wemby and how they were received by the league and the media?
When talking about Luka specifically, he has been crucified this season even though his team was the 3rd most injured and the entire offense was through him (since the backup was bad), which obviously takes a lot of energy. Now the Mavs are healthy, he does a lot more on the defensive end, and they are looking like the hottest team. They are likely finishing top 5 in the most difficult division with all that, and they don't give Luka credits for carrying the team when all of that was going on.
He has made crazy improvements this season in so many aspects of his game, and it isn't talked about outside 1 media person. Likely being the only person that voted for Luka as MVP.
Love this, like love this.
This a great F***in take!
Hating on Luka is crazy, he is so humble and talented young player
Far from being humble, he whines and complains all the time like US born PGs…
Why is it so hard to understand that almost every sport has great or goat status players from around the world, and since basketball has became more and more popular, more kids around the world are going play the game, and there will be more future international stars
The thing that you said near the end, really spoke to me in the fact that, Jokic wasn’t even talked about until his fifth year. Literally nobody even knew the kind of player he was aside from the Denver fans until his fifth year, and even then I don’t even think Denver knew what they had. Jokic literally had to make huge strides just for people to notice the greatness he had. Tatum had a squad, maybe it is semi-unfair that he was good out the gate like this, because now the expectations are extremely high, but that’s the price you pay for being that good. And people make it seem as if Luka is not getting any sort of criticism from the media because he most certainly is. He’s putting up all these numbers and starting to win games and they still won’t even consider him in the top two for the MVP. he’s literally about to finish way better than what Westbrook and Jokic did when they won their MVPs, but of course the media will still say he doesn’t deserve it.
The amount of black media personnel saying SGA is the MVP is amusing to me. I'm a casual so I could easily be mistaken but I don't feel like there's a case for him, less efficient and dependent on free throws, but he has the athleticism people love.
Gil’s CTE Arena back at it again
Wonder what he will say about Cooper Flagg, he isn’t a European born guy and he’s probably going to be an all nba type of player. Cause when he talks about Euros ruining the game, he never mentions Giannis or Victor. So if he goes at Cooper, you know what it really is about.
Your analysis of the difference between American /European propaganda in National Media is spot on. It’s difficult for some people to go deeper than tribalism and stat sheets with regard to analysis. It has created a toxic atmosphere subtly destroying what could be a great opportunity to expand basketball around the world. IMO racism and xenophobia are toxic for team sports and society at large
Gilbert played 11 seasons and Luka already has more points than him😂😂😂
Gil, Kenyon Martin, SAS, Keyshawn Johnson etc cant stand the fact that white dude is the best player in the NBA. Luka will win his first ring and FMVP in june this year and they all gon' be on life support
😂😂😂
@@maxwellsplash970 you gon be on life support only 2 months left the clock is ticking i cant wait
@@maxwellsplash970 what a goofy pic Luka will surpass lebalco in goat debate in 3 years from now when Mavs 3peat in 2026
@@SK99900 😭😭😭 I must have struck a nerve
@@SK99900 🤣🤣🤣 good luck wit that 🤡
I know this is not a white vs black thing because african americans feel the same way about the african guyanese doctor but it's funny that he puts things on people that if one didn't knew luka personality would think it's true. American kids are ending school and joining the nba chest out luka was winning against adults in europe and never asked for anything, yall can't comprehend that.
perfect timing was watching your older videos and a new one pops up good stuff low🐐
The only time Luka was ever compared to Jordan was playoff numbers they were very similar but that’s as far as it goes
Appreciate the content man
So thank for this channel. The break downs are great
I thought you were just a reaction guy I dident know you were absolutely brilliant in the sport of basketball you’re honestly great brother
oh my you brother spitting out a very goods fact. you just earned my like and subs. keep it up
to be fair, espn does compare numbers of mj and luka. but that’s simply because there wasn’t another player since mj with those types of numbers. but that’s comparing their numbers, not the players. there are aspects of luka’s game that some espn commentators compare to lbj and harden. they’re also quick to compare luka’s record breaking numbers with wilt or robertson, but again because he’s the first player since those two with those types of records. espn and the nba love to highlight all kinds of record setting numbers, probably because those kinds of things bring them more views. i think they would do the same with any american born player if he put up record breaking numbers
Yup I agree
Think it’s less about being European and more about skin color honestly but people not ready for that convo
Exactly as a black guy you can see they don't want the "white boys" running a "black" sport
Gil is the king of confidence over facts, he just speaks, sometimes he starts to contradict himself and gets angry, it’s funny.
Americans have always made it harder for foreign players. You don’t need to look past Hakeem. If Hakeem was Phillip Davis from Iowa he would be ranked higher on most people’s lists and would’ve been promoted like crazy in the 80’s/90’s
Honestly Gil has to be playing a bit because at this point it's a little ridiculous how many of his takes are just xenophobic with no basis. Like he has to have seen that narrative and decided kept running with it.
Preach. Wish I could like this video more than once.
Got you a sub bravo your good 😊
TSO Sage be saying Luka the GOAT already 😂😂😂
1:27
Gilbert is American Born...his 4 grand parents and his father are not !!
😂
Gil is engagement farming, he will do it with Cooper Flagg, who is legit the best white American prospect since Larry Bird.
He only hate on foreign born players
Over chet?
@@thedepresseddog6035 Chet is a beast, but athletically and defensively can't stack up to Flagg, who at 17 is 6'8", 200+ and is still growing, he reclassified to get to NBA at 19 and will physically be able to hang.
Tbh you got the best views out there 👏👏
although i agree with you LOW i think he meant compared as in, how much he scores his ppg etc not his actual game comp
But if someone said the same about a black player... 😑
You should have a show in MSM,always good takes.
Last 15 champions (2009-2023): Dirk/2011, Giannis/2021, Jokic/2023 had an international player as the main guy, so 3/15 = 20%
In that time span, Kobe, Steph, Kawhi, and LeBron (honorable mention KD) were the US players to lead their team to a championship
The International representation is not insignificant
Also, 15 years ago, nobody was saying International players were taking over the league. That started about give years ago. In that time span, an international player has won the MVP every single time, and won the championship as the lead guy 2/5 seasons.
Gil either a hater or dumb, or maybe both
It’s hilarious he didn’t even mention Dirk who beat Kobe-KD-Russ-Harden-Lebron-Wade-Bosh in 2011 lol. And I suppose we could get into the semantics of “main” guy, but I seem to recall the Spurs having two pretty decent Euros and I think they had a little bit of success. Kobe probably doesn’t win his final 2 titles without Pau who was their 2nd best player. His whole premise isn’t just stupid it’s embarrassingly false.
love the 2 second filter at 7:49😭
I've seen people compare Luka's stats this season to a couple different Jordan seasons from the 80s, but that's about it. I haven't seen anyone compare him to Jordan himself.
Gil has given low so much content this month 😂
Bro Gilbert’s takes are so bad that he’s like the literal embodiment of NBA twitter. Bro had a whole ass NBA career and he’s the same level of NBA analysis as a 15 year old on NBA twitter.
When he said Jokic doesn't do what kids want to see, by kids he meant himself
And people still hold on to NBA PLAYER CREDENTIALS OVER EVERYTHING. It’s laughable.
PERFECTLY SAID! Guy is a yapping 🤡
@@TheBoiRustyyeah , holes got poked on that for me with Ryan Hollins on ESPN. Not to mention Kendrick Perkins
I’d like to know where Luka isn’t being criticized for his defense. ESPN/TNT go out of their way to shit on Luka
1:25 solz and sage😂😂😂
I feel like Gil ans Low are going to end up debating and working together
What I’ve always hated in nba media is:
Black American young prospect = next Jordan/kobe/lebron
White/european young prospect = next bird/kucoc/turkoglu
Before these players even get drafted, the media is already making judgements on them based on where they’re from or their background and it’s totally unfair to these guys.
Arenas is just giving Low's free content hahahh
I think in the next few years we’re going to have a cool lil problem where there might not be a face. We’re just gonna have a buncha gods playing the sport we love to watch
actually great analysis and input- no diddy
Gil be moving the goal post or changing his logic depending on the subject
Got to give to him , he keeps gifting us content !
literally the face of euro basketball but now us euros will have nearly what 4 out of the top 5 players in the league being euros maybe even 5
Heaven forbid we give praise to a Euro for putting up historic numbers on a winning team. Gil is somehow more patriotic than a rural Kansas boy in 1942
They need to go ahead and invite you on Gil’s arena
I hate that everyone is so focused on who is better than who, who is the greatest, etc. enjoy the talent
Sabonis, Sengun, Gobert, Porzingis and Bogdanovic (before the trade) and to an extent OG Anunoby and Vucevic have great seasons and no one even cares.
Not the TH-camr we deserve, but the TH-camr we need.
low been spitting recently
Gilbert just talking about me comparing Luka to MJ
😂I mean...all things considered...hes the only one who fits the bill with exception of Trae Young. Those two are the only ones with consistent improvement with flashes of being the #1 guy. It's just unfortunate that they are on bad teams or stuck in the phase of Rebuilding.
Zion has to climb through hell just to be relevant again, Ja keeps cheddar bobbing himself & Jason Tatum is a Choker.
Gil is just baffling. I'm not even mad at this point.
Hot Takes:
Players too Good to be an All-Star, not that Good to be a SuperStar: Jason Tatum, Carmelo Anthony, DeMar DeRozan.
Players too Good to be in the G-Legue, not that Good to be in the NBA: Dennis Smith Jr., Quinn Cook, Michael Beasly
Let's just call it Gils Barbershop and really get chatting.
🔥🔥
He maybe referring to all the times Luka does a record breaking something and the media keeps showing lists with Jordan on it.
They did the same for James Harden
12:15 this is the main problem I have with mainstream sports media, everything has become too much about the narrative and not enough about the actual game. The craziest opinion dominates the waves no matter how bad it is. It’s so annoying.
Luka from day one was shit on for his lack of defense. Even right now he's still getting shit on for his defense and he's actually been an average to slightly above average defender this year, and has been pretty good on defense the last 3 years. Every year he gets better on defense.
All I'm going to say is W strategy LOW. The time is now.
To be the face you have to be the face of teams that contend most years like the Bulls or LeBrons Heat/Cavs did. Luka might win a championship or two but his Mavs are unlikely to contend every year. And thats what being "the face" really is about. And I'm not a rings person but the main character is the one the story follows the most.
MVP SEASON
34/10/9 49/38
50 30 point games
16 - 30 point triple doubles with 6 straight all time record
11 - 35 point triple doubles with 5 straight all time record(Jokic, Sabonis, Giannis, LeBron have 10 together)
2 - 40 point triple doubles (only 2 in the league)
73 points
50/15 Xmas game
47/12/9 Easter
50 wins (6th best record in the league)
Man these old heads want Tatum to be the best in the league so bad when he’s just not
Is comparable to a Magic or a LeBron in their game. The scoring and the passing. He’s not on their level yet to say today he’s as good as those players. We aren’t going to say he’s better than Bird, Magic, LeBron, or Jordan. He’s young and got a long way to go. But the skills are there to see him being in the conversation with those guys when we project his career and what he will do in this game by the time he’s done.
Lucas game is identical to Houston Rockets James Harden, Gil was definitely right about that though, same exact moves same exact style..
I clicked on this video already guessing it was Gilbert 0:13 seconds in I see him on his podcast and just went Of Course it's him! Like I'm not even shocked at this point
If we're keeping it funky(and I know we're not) no American player would have been allowed to lose in the first round by gentleman's sweep and then just claim "it wasn't a loss it was steps to success" without getting absolutely KILLED by the media. And no American superstar would be able to ride one chip for the rest of their career without even coming close to sniffing another one.
It’s only been a few “faces” of the league. You can be the best player in the NBA and still not be the face. It’s only been about 3-4 faces of the NBA since it started
If you wanted to, you could look at Luka and say "he's Michael Jordan without the defense," but then you'd be like... not comparing him to Michael Jordan. He has a Jordanesque offensive impact, but not the defensive metrics. "Prime James Harden" is a decent comp, but Harden's best 5 years were seasons 7-12, Luka is only now in his 6th season as a pro and it's basically a tie.
Gilbert is wrong, but Low his point was how Luka is/was in the goat conversation
Need to thank gil.
Gil just be chattin
The difference between Harden and Luka is the playoff performances and respectfully Tatum has had bad performances in the playoffs and been bailed out by his team while Luka can’t even afford to do so
Want to talk about criticism being more for US players compared to Europeans? Let's have a comparison of the reactions to Mitchell, Embiid and Luka's 70 point games.
Or what ESPN was saying when Luka dropped his 60/20/10 game.
When Luka does all time great, unmatched stat lines media say the league is broken or the opposition was terrible. When Mitchell and Embiid dropped 70 those same people were on their knees slobbering.
Him and Shaq got it out for luka and its fine the people know what's up we see and hear them; Gil don't ever mention luka 2nd in the league in assist tho lol
You need to pull up on his show and just shut this all down
Gil just be saying shit to say it 😅.
I think the Luka comps that Gilbert is talking about are the records he’s been breaking and how it aligns with some stuff Jordan has done, but Luka’s comp has always been James harden, so I’m not sure what he’s talking about.
Luca is a generational player…Gilbert is nuts!
Luka is the scoring leader right now. Second in assists and top percentile for rebounds. Stats don’t lie but Gilbert does. That’s why he’s named Gilbert that’s Karma.
The mainstream media have help a grudge against Luka ever since he said "scoring in Europe is harder", if he wins MVP and gets publicity he more likely to discredit the NBA (refs/ difficulty )or big up the Euro league, which is not good for the $$$ of the NBA. If its a close race, they will always chose SGA/americans etc over him becaue of this. Most fans can see its Luka's MVP, if we as fans band together and agree not to buy league passes for 24/25 and watch Euro league if Luka does not win MVP, maybe they will open their eye$ up then.
Yeah Kobe used to get criticized like Tatum and he was winning rings!!
People confuse the stats that Luka has that's COMPARABLE to Jordan as him being the next Jordan
Saying Luka was being compared to Jordan and saying he's just James Harden like James Harden wasn't being compared to Jordan 😂