Josh Pate's SEC Program Power Rankings (Late Kick Cut)

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  • The SEC is expanding with the addition of Texas and Oklahoma. On Late Kick Live Ep 480 Josh Pate ranked all 16 programs using a rolling 3-year blended set of criteria including on-field performance, talent acquisition, resource pool, and stability. With UGA and Alabama atop the SEC, how do the next tiers shake out? Has Brian Kelly gotten LSU fully back? Where do programs like Texas A&M and Auburn stack up? Could a turnaround be in the cards for Florida? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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  • @LateKickwithJoshPate
    @LateKickwithJoshPate  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Keep the show free - SUBSCRIBE to the channel and LIKE the video! - JP

    • @garettblair1883
      @garettblair1883 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      10 dummy

    • @rickrhoden1
      @rickrhoden1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you've read the several comments as to why Ole Miss over the 3 year criteria should be #4 on your list, will you clearly explain why you refute those points? The most egregious problem is with OU, picked by others at or near the bottom half of the SEC.

  • @billquantrill4960
    @billquantrill4960 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    The dark pit of irrelevance that Mizzou has climbed up out of has impressed this OU fan. Didn't think it possible.

    • @hughobrien4139
      @hughobrien4139 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’m with you on that statement.

    • @samthomas3383
      @samthomas3383 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Welcome to the SEC buddy, see ya in CoMo

    • @TheMCJ2011
      @TheMCJ2011 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      A great coach is priceless

    • @cconnell7009
      @cconnell7009 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@samthomas3383seriously! OU has the toughest schedule of the 16.

    • @exomake_mehorololo
      @exomake_mehorololo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@cconnell7009compared to Texas they got the short stick. Someone definitely wanted to guarantee a smooth start for Texas 🙄who's surprised. But Florida and USC have a far worse schedule

  • @BucNasty42
    @BucNasty42 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    Also Florida is starting to feel how Tennessee used to feel lol. That feeling SUCKS!! lol.

    • @greenwave819
      @greenwave819 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      TN never had 3 losing season in a row

    • @tulsa4290
      @tulsa4290 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@greenwave819 Yes we did, final 2 Dooley years were 5-7 and Butch's first year was 5-7

    • @greggalton3331
      @greggalton3331 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      What’s crazy is since 2017 both have only beaten 9 ranked teams lol. They are much closer than people realize like miss state has beat more ranked teams in the same time frame just for context.

    • @BucNasty42
      @BucNasty42 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@greggalton3331 the difference is we beat all of ours from 2021-pres. Florida has fell off in the same timeframe

    • @davidv8285
      @davidv8285 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@greggalton3331 the only difference (and it's a big difference) is that Florida absolutely owns Tennessee

  • @colinbclark
    @colinbclark 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +136

    Damn Florida at 13. I can’t even argue. How the mighty have fallen.

    • @wesleyadams5433
      @wesleyadams5433 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Need to change the Tom Petty song to Freefallin'.

    • @luketauzin8321
      @luketauzin8321 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Mighty?

    • @angelalv3578
      @angelalv3578 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Mighty?😂

    • @user-xp6qd4sk1j
      @user-xp6qd4sk1j 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wesleyadams5433 JD Rett's "we trawlin" is better. Check it out. I highly recommend it.

    • @brayljosh1275
      @brayljosh1275 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@angelalv3578They were definitely the standard at one point.

  • @user-mg3nc6iu8t
    @user-mg3nc6iu8t 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Sadly as a Gator fan, I have no problem with their ranking. Schedules will get easier and fewer stupid mistakes will happen throughout the program, so the future looks so bright, I have to wear shades (to hide my embarrassment). It has been a rough few years....

    • @Cookie-fe7mn
      @Cookie-fe7mn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As a Tennessee fan I went through the same thing my whole childhood. Everyone said Tennessee would never get out of our hole but we did. The SEC is just too loaded everyone is going to have ups and downs but you'll eventually come back (sadly)😂

  • @zygotepeyote
    @zygotepeyote 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    If A&M can get a decent offensive line to protect the QB I think they are going to surprise a lot of people. It is going to be fun to watch for a change. A&M finally got a football coach..............

    • @TheBryceRoberts4
      @TheBryceRoberts4 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Decent offensive line? They had multiple 5 and high 4 stars they’ve signed over the last 4 years.

    • @jbm0866
      @jbm0866 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      "finally got a football coach" How many times have we heard this the past decade..or longer?😂😂

    • @ChrisC-bm7sp
      @ChrisC-bm7sp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@zaddy2078 can anyone in the class enlighten Zaddy here about why we don't have healthy QBs? Jonathan, I saw your hand. 'is it because they have had horrible Oline play?' Jonathan, you're a genius and I love you.

    • @chrisevans3184
      @chrisevans3184 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      you probably thought the same thing when you hired Fisher. Like the exact same thing. Elko is very mid.

    • @zygotepeyote
      @zygotepeyote 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Everyone in the SEC west is the same. A&M (Fisher) never had any player development and it showed. I get it. @@TheBryceRoberts4

  • @user-gp3ht1tz5s
    @user-gp3ht1tz5s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Man Texas’ schedule this year is an absolute gift when u look at these rankings…

    • @jahnvantuttlesma8215
      @jahnvantuttlesma8215 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Maybe the easiest schedule in the SEC.

    • @JP1348
      @JP1348 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      making excuses already? Let's keep moving the goal posts.

    • @zacharyrogerssr9331
      @zacharyrogerssr9331 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jahnvantuttlesma8215 Texas and Ole Miss

    • @cconnell7009
      @cconnell7009 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Compare it side by side with OU’s and it’s funny.
      OU: 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10, and 11
      Texas: 1, 5, 8, 12, 13, 14, 15, and 16
      Probably the toughest conference schedule and the easiest conference schedule. I see Texas having a realistic shot at an SEC conference championship berth.

    • @DTraiN5795
      @DTraiN5795 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah Michigan in offseason makes it way different so go suck it

  • @slchambers1
    @slchambers1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    As a life long Gator fan, 13 is too high. Seems like we’re back in the 1960’s.

  • @rtdasilva3
    @rtdasilva3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude, I love the channel. Can't wait to see your ranking for the B1G. I'd love to see where you have the Terps as well as the new teams coming in.

  • @Cooljohn760
    @Cooljohn760 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Im impressed with SC being 11

  • @boomer0117zr
    @boomer0117zr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey pate and crew thank you for doing a great job I enjoy the takes

  • @lclayton1330
    @lclayton1330 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really accurate! Obviously a few could have been flipped, but pretty darn spot on.

  • @CiviTac
    @CiviTac 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Based on your criteria I agree with this ranking. I also believe the season will likely end up showing this as a final ranking by playoff time. That being said I haven’t considered schedules at all with that assessment which is a big deal

  • @lincolnyoung6894
    @lincolnyoung6894 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    247 posted an Instagram post without the context and I was very confused but now I completely agree and understand the view here

  • @bendackiw7012
    @bendackiw7012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Can’t argue with OU at 5. There’s a lot to like about where they’re going but still some question marks.

    • @Thelordismysavior12
      @Thelordismysavior12 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i would flip lsu and ole miss tbh...

  • @thomasmcknatt2388
    @thomasmcknatt2388 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks again Josh. I agree with almost all of what you have determined to be ranking the SEC. RTR. Watching from Thailand

  • @quincyhoward2222
    @quincyhoward2222 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Man is going to be Fun watching SEC games, and there's some big ones this year with adding Texas and OU.,

  • @johnisouth6636
    @johnisouth6636 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    OU Sooner here. I would've thought you'd have us 8 or 9 but kudos to ya. 5 is a good one. I think we should live up to that. I gotta good feeling.

    • @stephenwainwright5792
      @stephenwainwright5792 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      OU has a great program.
      I'm glad they joined the SEC.

    • @johnisouth6636
      @johnisouth6636 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@stephenwainwright5792 Thanks man. I'm super excited for this. When August rolls around it'll be goodebump season. SEC!

    • @ZunarXJ59
      @ZunarXJ59 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sooner here as well. With that schedule, I think 5 is real generous. Provided they play to top potential, they can be great, but I figured 8-9 as well. There was mucho inconsistency late in the season. And effects of transfer portal/NIL still have me wondering

  • @jamesriley6204
    @jamesriley6204 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you going to do this for every current p5? Also how do rank teams nationwide with this metrics. Thanks

  • @kevinsmith4541
    @kevinsmith4541 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I'm a Florida fan. I can't really argue with this list but it still upsets me lol 😡

  • @lizardinthelites
    @lizardinthelites 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Not mad about SC at 11. We move up slowly, then all at once.
    🐓

  • @jaygremillion
    @jaygremillion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a Mississippi State fan...hard to argue. There is just so much up in the air right now with our program. Even at our best, within the SEC, we aren't every going to be near the top for more than a season or so. Add the circumstances you mentioned...it will be an interesting two to three years coming up. I could see this going either direction.

  • @criminalfailures2977
    @criminalfailures2977 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    B1G power rankings next?

    • @CarlaJenkinsTV
      @CarlaJenkinsTV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      `Josh isn't going to do that. Notice how he's not mentioning that none of the Arizona, Alabama or Washington transfers went to Michigan due to the cheating? Also he's not mentioning that no one is taking Michigan players due to Harbaugh leaving.

    • @stephenwainwright5792
      @stephenwainwright5792 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      BIG - What?
      JK... lol

  • @kale6772
    @kale6772 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    By your ranking this shows UGA's upcoming road schedule is straight nasty. @Bama @Texas @Olemiss. 2 of the top 3 teams away... then Ole miss too.

    • @randallrentz3647
      @randallrentz3647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gonna be a cookout kinda season. Just bangers all season

    • @TheMCJ2011
      @TheMCJ2011 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Oh yeah I can’t wait! Go Dawgs!

    • @maxgator
      @maxgator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Florida's is nastier. Uga Texas LSU Ole Miss then FSU... In a row

    • @kale6772
      @kale6772 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @maxgator Florida has the nastiest schedule in the nation either way.

    • @reginaldlloyd4892
      @reginaldlloyd4892 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If Georgia goes undefeated this year, you have to give them the crown. There would be no debate.

  • @phillipb9919
    @phillipb9919 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As an Arkansas fan, it hurts but I do agree with the ranking here. I hope we turn things around & fast.

  • @jamescampbell9533
    @jamescampbell9533 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Damn, the way the SEC fans been talking the last 3 tears I would have thought Texas and Oklahoma would be just above Vandy.

    • @doc8013
      @doc8013 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Why? No SEC fan thinks Vandy is anywhere close to those programs.

    • @jammerlr7780
      @jammerlr7780 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@doc8013Sadly, there really is, and many are quite vocal about it.

    • @doc8013
      @doc8013 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jammerlr7780 lol you guys sound you got trolled. I promise you that no real SEC fan has ever seriously said that Vandy is or ever has been a better program than OU or Texas. Never ever.

    • @zacharyrogers1071
      @zacharyrogers1071 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@doc8013Vandy was a joke. We said Kentucky and Mississippi State

  • @georgeherring7370
    @georgeherring7370 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent!

  • @roberthaas3376
    @roberthaas3376 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I was suprised Auburn was so high, we will either be really good next year or we will stay in tier 3 😅

    • @Tim_ToolMayne_Taylor
      @Tim_ToolMayne_Taylor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Josh is actually unbiased so he doesn’t penalize Auburn just for being Auburn.

  • @captnjim44smith74
    @captnjim44smith74 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Head coach with a gut talking to athletes !

    • @saintsataniko2116
      @saintsataniko2116 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      most of them are fat. Shane Beamer is one of the very few who actually works out in the team facilities all the time...and you can tell.

  • @georgeherring7370
    @georgeherring7370 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Again, excellent

  • @terrymorris5816
    @terrymorris5816 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Aggie fan and I agree where you have them.

    • @exomake_mehorololo
      @exomake_mehorololo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're probably relieved your not lower tbh

    • @kevindepew8193
      @kevindepew8193 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You should be because Pate loves the Aggies and treats them better than they deserve. Probably because 1) Aggie fans love anyone who says nice things about them 2) there are a lot of Aggies, and 3) Academy is a big Aggie sponsor.

  • @boblaymon5450
    @boblaymon5450 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t have many disagreements with the list as it’s explained
    My question is, why go from a mostly future predictive model with the JP Poll to this? Would’ve been more interesting to see where you think these programs will be in 3 years

    • @jbm0866
      @jbm0866 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @boblaymon5450 It's because he's become an aggy mouthpiece this past season and would have to rank them a couple spots lower if where the teams are trending is taken into account. He knows who butters his bread and won't do anything to upset that balance. Notice how his assessment of Texas was begrudging (listing every single team we lost to the past 3 years that he feels aren't good enough to beat Texas) in spite of ranking the Horns third? Must keep the aggy fanbase somewhat sated while at the same time keeping it real (for the most part) with the rankings😂

    • @tylercanady344
      @tylercanady344 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or maybe he thought that UTx fans would complain about not being on par with bama and UGA so he wanted to get ahead of it.

  • @xdgaming70
    @xdgaming70 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like we have potential to go up higher than 11 but only we control that. we just have to be a tad better and finish games. We only got blown out like 2 times. We left a lot of games on the table. We just gotta try HARDER.

  • @leemajor601
    @leemajor601 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Josh, This is reality........

  • @daltonvaughn3469
    @daltonvaughn3469 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Go dawgs

  • @zacharyrogerssr9331
    @zacharyrogerssr9331 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The way the graphic started 😅

  • @blazervol3357
    @blazervol3357 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think this list is pretty accurate except I would put Oklahoma below Ole Miss and Tennessee. Last 3 years both Ole Miss and Tennessee have done well and exceeded expectations while Oklahoma has fallen short of their expectations. I think if Tennessee or Ole Miss played Oklahoma at a neutral field, then they would both come away with the win.

    • @Gutslinger
      @Gutslinger 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who's expectations were higher during those 3 years?

  • @trewright1482
    @trewright1482 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe this should be a power ranking of football program not overall program. Would be interesting to see a power rankjng of overall sports program power rankings.

  • @shawnjames3533
    @shawnjames3533 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, one good season gets you in the top 3? How many of those 3 seasons did texsa end in the top 25?

  • @stevelinahan8022
    @stevelinahan8022 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Texas fan, no issue with #3 as we still have to prove that we are solid over time. No doubt we will at this point but again as Pate states it is about last 3 years and inexcuseable random losses which is undeniable. That said all indicators look good but the cake aint baked yet. Hook'em

  • @Cgl3g3nd
    @Cgl3g3nd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Urban should get more credit for what he did at Florida. They have been a joke ever since he left.

    • @ryanrebeles6581
      @ryanrebeles6581 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t know Dan Mullens should too. He got them to the sec chapionship

  • @Isaacnorm113
    @Isaacnorm113 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the Georgia car analogy. Very fitting for that program.

  • @BigC_4K2424
    @BigC_4K2424 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Texas can do anything, including joining the toughest conference in football, and people in the comments still making excuses saying the schedule is cake😂😂 what do y’all want to see?! The reigning natty champ, Georgia, and a full sec slate.

  • @Travis89-ob5tt
    @Travis89-ob5tt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Florida's recruiting has been more like top 12 as opposed to top 20. Even with all the late flips the 23 and 24 classes have added some very good talent.

    • @stephenwainwright5792
      @stephenwainwright5792 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you really think UF has recruited talent that is even close to what Georgia has recruited ?
      Until they get even close to the talent level that Georgia recruits Florida is going to have a hard time. (Just saying)

    • @mikejohnson9586
      @mikejohnson9586 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's talent if you don't have an elite coaching staff to develop them.

    • @stephenwainwright5792
      @stephenwainwright5792 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you trying to say Georgia doesn't develop players. Tell me you know nothing about football without telling me you know nothing about football

    • @atlcubsfan
      @atlcubsfan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Talent hasn't turned into wins in Gainesville, and as a UGA fan, I'm ecstatic about that!
      HBTFD!

  • @kaijohnson5033
    @kaijohnson5033 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Go Vols baby. We’re finally on the rise🍊

  • @OkieTradez
    @OkieTradez 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ou is coming for your hearts!

  • @GrouchyKraut
    @GrouchyKraut 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As a Bama fan, here are my rankings for 2024 season:
    1. Texas (they are loaded this year)
    2. Georgia (losing best TE)
    3. Ole Miss
    4. Alabama (obvious reasons)
    5. LSU (still pretty loaded)

    • @i_am_thad9937
      @i_am_thad9937 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      texas losing a lot of players

    • @user-ky1zk2zm2t
      @user-ky1zk2zm2t 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      UGA is absolutely LOADED! Branson Robinson will be healthy, College Football is put on notice.

    • @RamblingRob-vi7ct
      @RamblingRob-vi7ct 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Texas is still going find out how hard it is in SEC what he didn't say Texas struggled in 4 big 12 games that took all they had to win . If those four opponents would've been SEC I don't think they would had won like they did .

    • @johnnyreb3542
      @johnnyreb3542 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re an imposter, no Bamatard would ever admit to being the 4th best team in the conference!

    • @BillyCordell
      @BillyCordell 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      OG of the Vols I've been impressed by Josh Huepel from day 1 He is the real deal and a good person That nice guy want finsh last

  • @tacticalmattfoley
    @tacticalmattfoley 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Program vs Team is a very important distinction. We're going to find out this season if a team can buy a national championship. If so, "program" as a philosophy of player development is obsolete.

  • @poman1976
    @poman1976 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    SEC Power Ranking- 3 year rolling snapshot- lets put 2 schools who haven't played a SNAP in the SEC in the top 5!

    • @kevindepew8193
      @kevindepew8193 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does that hurt your narrative that everyone team not in the SEC sucks?

    • @augustaborn9034
      @augustaborn9034 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Texas is and should be 3. Oklahoma tho, no way they are 5

  • @kevinvoorheis1990
    @kevinvoorheis1990 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m a Texas fan and I agree. I still can’t quite wear the burnt orange sunglasses

  • @ScottieDrippen
    @ScottieDrippen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The kid from Texas, DJ Lagway will bring the Florida program back to life.

  • @GolfSuperTillman
    @GolfSuperTillman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Josh, Does Napier go trick-or-treating this year as the head coach of Florida? Their schedule is unreal….

    • @chasejackson7248
      @chasejackson7248 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They will be lucky to win 4 games.

  • @austinblount3117
    @austinblount3117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Damn I hate Billy Napier struggling at Florida. I don't like FL at all, but I played for Napier's dad when I was in high school, and he was a true role model in every positive sense you can list so I wish nothing but the best for Coach Napier!

  • @jonathanbradley6709
    @jonathanbradley6709 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a Bama fan, I have Alabama between 1-5 for right now. I'm waiting for the Spring Recruiting to be complete. Maybe it'll be better than this roster, or maybe it'll be worse.

  • @whitflix30
    @whitflix30 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This list is good but I do mine off the future not the past

  • @g.holland4862
    @g.holland4862 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’d put LSU over Texas as Texas’ success came in the Big 12. I think Tennessee is underrated here and should be at least 6. They were the best non-playoff team the year before last. I might even put them over OU due to OU playing the last 3 years in the Big 12.

  • @flymanyoutube8768
    @flymanyoutube8768 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Based off your criteria Florida is in the right spot. With my criteria they are much higher.

  • @22jdawgjb
    @22jdawgjb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s so wild as a longhorn fan to see us mentioned now with SEC media. and absolutely agree with where you have us, yeah last year was solid, and the future looks beyond solid, 2 of the last 3 years we weren’t great. So I 100% agree HOOK EM’

  • @StuartPetersAU
    @StuartPetersAU 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Auburn #9…won’t be that low much longer. 2024 will be much improved. 2025 will be playoff team.

  • @edwardcooper2930
    @edwardcooper2930 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Go Vols !!! About to be tier 1

  • @Hat-san
    @Hat-san 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tell me if I'm wrong but is it fair to rank OU and Texas in the SEC when they haven't even played in the SEC yet? If we're doing a 3 year snap shot then all 3 years there is no OU or Texas.

  • @cellamuert
    @cellamuert 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    missouri played with some real heart against ohio state. and their fans showed a huge passion, too. i was at the cotton bowl and the missou fans were roaring all night. i think if they continue the play on the field, they are on the real up and up

  • @madmoparmotorsports4612
    @madmoparmotorsports4612 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I agree with everything except UT @ 7. They should be 5. We’ll prove it in Norman later this year tho.

    • @samrester6254
      @samrester6254 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He has UT @ 3.

    • @Saltytacoz
      @Saltytacoz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Texas is #3 wym

  • @dg1019
    @dg1019 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm not an OM fan by any means but your under estimating where that program is and is headed as long as Kiffen is there. OM is also a school that will not spare spending newly acquired SEC money on football. They will be all in with football as that playing field starts to level with bigger programs. Will they equal TX, of course not but they will have enough and spend it more wisely. All the SEC schools are about to have enough money to get anything done, Schools like OM will now have a fighting chance that they have not had in the past. I'm a G5 fan so I'm looking at it from the extreme other side but I can see where this is headed. There are going to be some schools that in years past in the BIG and SEC that were behind their peers with money but that's about to change. Some will spend it and some won't....I'm looking at you Vanderbilt but OM will be nouveau riche and spend like a drunken sailor on leave on football.

  • @kristophercaery5736
    @kristophercaery5736 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kinda lost here when did Texas play Kentucky in football to lose to them? Only game i can find is from 1951

  • @NoLabelsZone
    @NoLabelsZone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The rest of the country is gonna freak when 5 or 6 SEC teams are in the 12.

  • @DHTex11
    @DHTex11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Texas agree with tier 2, it’s going to be a bloody season thru Conference championship and CFP.

  • @everythinginthesink2123
    @everythinginthesink2123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would switch oklahoma and tennessee but i get it! Well prove it when we beat them this year ;)

  • @glockman9c
    @glockman9c 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I have faith in DeBoer.
    Bama haters are gonna be so mad.
    ROLL TIDE!

    • @craigmorris3055
      @craigmorris3055 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      DeBoer is a very good coach. That was a great hire for Bama.

    • @skipgumphrey9579
      @skipgumphrey9579 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      RTR

    • @user-ky1zk2zm2t
      @user-ky1zk2zm2t 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      UGA by 50 in TuscaLoser

    • @2xxNorMacKxx2
      @2xxNorMacKxx2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When Bama starts winning 8 games a year instead of 13, you’ll have to let me know which team you’re gonna bandwagon over to.

    • @chasejackson7248
      @chasejackson7248 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bama haters will be happy when Alabama loses 3 games every year.

  • @kodysharpe657
    @kodysharpe657 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mark stoops is Will Muschamp in a Kentucky uniform

  • @jonathanwallace9027
    @jonathanwallace9027 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well Josh I don't follow the SEC, but I follow college football enough to know that I'm concerned about the stock everyone, including you, put into conferences. I do however put stock into individual teams and what they achieve. Now I say that to say, the 2 are unrelated no matter the conference. If you want stats to follow that... look at unrelated media biases. Look at bowl records, look at head to head out of conference. Look at situations into those past head to heads out of conference.
    We all know that Texas A&M has the same type of reliability of recruiting in expectations VS reality that Notre Dame does. Meaning that 4 and 5 star is closer to a bust than the typical OSU, Georgia, or Clemson(indiscriminately) recruitment goes.
    There's more "money ball" type things that can be said towards all of CFB than anyone wants to uncover, buuuuutttt I digress.
    Or else it would reflect in the draft outside of Alabama, LSU, and recently Georgia (kinda)
    However, I just wish there would be more genuine takes on this matter, as good as the SEC is. I just think there's just padded stats more than what you would like to admit when it comes to dealing with conference VS dealing with individual teams and let the facts lay where they may. No matter the conference affiliation.

  • @thierrylepere9828
    @thierrylepere9828 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How's this?? Look at Bama vs Georgia record for the last 17 years....😮

    • @chasejackson7248
      @chasejackson7248 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Has nothing to do with the future, nick sabe isn't here to save you anymore.

  • @Hogsby90
    @Hogsby90 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a Razorback fan, 14 might be too high💀

    • @alexshearer3227
      @alexshearer3227 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      From 2012 to 2023, Arkansas has the same number of SEC wins as Vandy if u throw out 2020 COVID year. That said, I expect 16-0 in 2024! 🐗 woo pig sooieee!

    • @Arkansan4America
      @Arkansan4America 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tommy-2not with Pittman as head coach.

  • @ZacharyB99
    @ZacharyB99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ole Miss went 11-2 not 10-3 btw

  • @paulmatthews463
    @paulmatthews463 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What the hell was kelly picking up off the field and eating?

    • @Andy-White
      @Andy-White 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheetos?

    • @Gutslinger
      @Gutslinger 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mascot poop.

  • @jakerux6092
    @jakerux6092 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is Kentucky’s 2nd best rolling 3-year average since 1951. And they aren’t even a top-10 team in the conference. Insane depth in the SEC.

  • @nickcase1471
    @nickcase1471 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It is hard for me to see how Texas ranks above LSU or even Ole miss. in the last three years I mean they went 5-7 in the big 12 in 2021, 8-5 2022, and 12-2 2023 and lost there only playoff game ever to a Washington team they should had bullied off the field. If you wanna say recruiting classes are why then put A&M in there 9-1 2022, 8-4 in 2023, and 5-7 2023. They recruited just as well as texas

    • @kevindepew8193
      @kevindepew8193 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aggie was 8-4 in 2021, 5-7 in 2022, and 7-6 in 2023. How do you get their record wrong? And their recruiting is 2022 #1 (and MANY in that class have left), 2023 #15, 2024 #19. That isn't that amazing. Texas recruiting is 2022 #5, 2023 #3, 2024 #6. How is that A&M recruiting just as well? Your data is just plain wrong. A&M at #8 program in this ranking is generous.

  • @DTraiN5795
    @DTraiN5795 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Texas fan here and I’m fan if LSU moves up to 3
    Ole Miss ahead of OU and maybe even up to 4
    Mizzu ahead of auburn and A&M. See I think future indicators need to also be involved into these. Some could be argued 3n4 and Mizzu over A&M therefore keeping A&M where they’re at. Also Ole Miss maybe even jumping into the 4th spot moving others back

  • @colinhoover5153
    @colinhoover5153 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Texas being #3 with a "three year snap shot" is illogical

    • @LateKickwithJoshPate
      @LateKickwithJoshPate  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Why? And make sure tell me who belongs ahead of them using equal criteria. - JP

    • @colinhoover5153
      @colinhoover5153 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@LateKickwithJoshPate First, big fan of the program. Watch every show, liked, subscribed and got my family and friends to like and subscribe.
      My evidence. Two of your four criteria are in my opinion subjective, "Resource pool" and "program stability". If resources were so important, the NY Mets would be winning and Texas would be the dominant team in CFB. Neither are true. As far as program stability, each team I've listed above Texas has had their head coach for at least two years, and unless scandal or complete disaster occur, those coaches will likely be there another two years. It's subjective because there's no metric to measure "stability" other than winning. So I included 3 pieces of evidence for each team. Win-loss record, average 3 year recruiting, average portal class.
      1. Georgia (42-2, 3 and N/A)
      2. Bama (36-6, 1.3 and N/A)
      3. Ole Miss (29-10, 22.3 and 2)
      4. Tenn (27-12, 16.3 and 41.5)
      5. OU (27-12, 7.6 and 6)
      6. LSU (26-14, 7 and 4)
      7. Texas (25-14, 7.6 and 50.5)
      It must be taken into consideration that OU and Texas have played full Big 12 schedules whiles these other schools have played full SEC schedules. In 2023 Texas played 5 conference games where their opponents defense ranked below 100th, while the SEC schools played 1 or 2 (one being LSU who had a Heisman QB and the other Vandy). So Texas over a 3 year production stand point barley breaks into the top 8 and has had a far more forgiving schedule than the other teams who have had to play an eventual national champion at least once each season.
      - I would love to add that God has given you an incredible gift and you use it so well. God bless 🙏🏽

    • @colinhoover5153
      @colinhoover5153 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LateKickwithJoshPate 👀👀👀

  • @justavictim9432
    @justavictim9432 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No issue with the power rankings but DeBoer a top 5 HC? Not yet. Potentially a top 3 coach in a few years but he needs to be competitive at Bama first. The Washington run last year was magically but there were multiple games where the Huskies played down to competition. That worked ok in the Pac12. It doesn't in the SEC

  • @billford6350
    @billford6350 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The difference between the SEC and the Big not exactly is simply this. The SEC has ten teams fighting for the playoffs. The Big Ten has five. Any questions? OSU Michigan Penn State and Oregon and maybe USC but I doubt it

  • @explodingcakemaster816
    @explodingcakemaster816 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I may be bias as a current student at UF, but how are Florida and Auburn separated by so much? Both play difficult schedules and have had the same record over the last 3 years. Recruiting and Resources are relatively equal if not a slight edge to Florida.

    • @2daFull
      @2daFull 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He says why. Auburn is a wildcard. They can be a 6 win team next year, but they also could be in the playoffs. Florida is trending towards a bowl game at best.

  • @StubbsMillingCo.
    @StubbsMillingCo. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn’t expect USC to be 1-10. 11-14… sure😂 it fits we aren’t “super star” tv but it’s a show none the less🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @willholmes8295
    @willholmes8295 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Putting Alabama at 2 is insane, couldn’t be more wrong unless you put them at 1. That is a dumpster fire and will be solidly mid for the next 5-10 years.

    • @frederickgraves1340
      @frederickgraves1340 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cry

    • @willholmes8295
      @willholmes8295 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@frederickgraves1340 your gonna know all about that in the next coming seasons as y’all enter poverty city.

    • @Bam_Bam_Bam_Bam
      @Bam_Bam_Bam_Bam 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@willholmes8295 this is a take of a 9 year old mor on..

  • @r0llntider
    @r0llntider 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn't auburn have a 3 game losing streak that included new Mexico and maryland?

  • @davidjackson4308
    @davidjackson4308 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a Bama fan, I have to say that Georgia isn't going anywhere, anytime soon. My reasoning behind this is that they are unique, along with Ohio St., in being schools in states with a pretty large population, and no instate recruiting rival. Bama, for example, has half the population, and has traditionally had to split recruits with Auburn (not so much right now).

  • @derekkastpr94
    @derekkastpr94 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How is South Carolina ahead of Florida when Napier is 2-0 vs Beamer and has out recruited him?

  • @jacobybryant9002
    @jacobybryant9002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    UK schedule is way too easy. Just wait until this next year.

  • @speedrat
    @speedrat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You picked UGA. Nicky going take your job!

  • @unclefester1840
    @unclefester1840 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    All I’ve heard the last 3 years is TX & OU “are gonna be the new Vandy” now I’m hearing how TX has easy schedule? Make up ya minds!

    • @LateKickwithJoshPate
      @LateKickwithJoshPate  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not a single person ever said Texas and OU will be the new Vandy. - JP

    • @unclefester1840
      @unclefester1840 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LateKickwithJoshPate maybe you miss took me, I never said you said that. I’m talking about all the thousands of other comments I’ve read on TikTok and TH-cam the past few years!

    • @cameronb8503
      @cameronb8503 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Had a guy argue with me this exact point on Twitter. Like bro, I know you can't point to where Oklahoma is on the map but that doesn't mean we are going to be bottom feeders in the SEC. OU has been a big daddy in college football for nearly 100 years, with very few real down years lol

    • @jammerlr7780
      @jammerlr7780 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LateKickwithJoshPateYea, there has been. You have just been fortunate enough to have missed it.

  • @jakehowicz7386
    @jakehowicz7386 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I don’t think Oklahoma deserves to be ahead of Ole Miss & Tennessee. We’ll see this coming year.

    • @Bam_Bam_Bam_Bam
      @Bam_Bam_Bam_Bam 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What has TN or Ole Miss done in the last 20 years? OU is consistently a 10 win team other than their 2022 season.

    • @alejandrot.5039
      @alejandrot.5039 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Pates criteria is a three year snapshot- so the last 20 years don't matter. Only the last three. Over these last three years both Ole Miss and TN have shown massive improvement to becoming heavyweights in CFB. I think Oklahoma still has the larger football brand and recruit appeal, but TN and Ole Miss are coming close and I believe their performances have been more impressive. OU got the benefit of a weaker conference, but has an about equal W/L(and the only sub .500 season record of these teams). OU I think has more questions to answer and work to do after Lincoln Riley left- that destabilizes a program. As far as resources, I believe the order goes TN>OU>Ole Miss but all three can flex their financial muscles if need be. Also, for Oklahoma's recent success- their most recent Natty is only two more years more recent than UT's most recent lol.

    • @doc8013
      @doc8013 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Bam_Bam_Bam_BamOle Miss just had back to back years where they won 10 games, and they did it in the SEC. Only teams they lost to last year were the two juggernauts at the front of the line.

  • @pdg61met
    @pdg61met 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lane Kiffin to Florida make it happen!

  • @jacobbuchanan6076
    @jacobbuchanan6076 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tennessee should be at #5. But also you using head to head wins as criteria then LSU needs to be lower cause 40-13 in BATON ROUGE.

  • @mrab9304
    @mrab9304 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The list is great I would only change the tier 2 up a little bit. I can’t put LSU over Tennessee when Tennessee absolutely smacked them around under the same coaching staff. I would have Texas Ole Miss Tennessee LSU then OU

    • @mcat3309
      @mcat3309 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vols having one decent season doesn't make them a better PROGRAM than LSU. Beating the LSU team that Coach O left in a shambles (with 39 players and 5 wins) is not as special as Vols fans think it is. LSU is trending up. Vols, meh. Since 2000, LSU has 3 national championships. Vols: zero. Last year's final rank: LSU 12, TN 17. Josh got it right.

  • @ezramitchell4429
    @ezramitchell4429 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Missouri higher than that lol. Just based off last year alone

    • @melkord
      @melkord 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If he was just doing last year, I'm sure they'd be much higher. But he said it about 30 times that it's a 3-year snapshot, and we can't just forget that Missouri was an exceedingly average football team in 21 and 22. This year is the reason why they aren't in that 4th tier.

    • @chasejackson7248
      @chasejackson7248 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This key players on that team are gone.

  • @trent8005
    @trent8005 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My only question is why does winning games matter for some schools and not for others 🤔

    • @bigd7481
      @bigd7481 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because there's always underlying biases even when people are trying to be impartial. Plus all of this is irrelevant given the nature of CFB today where 5 star starters leave playoff teams to chase bigger bags.

  • @kyledupuis8996
    @kyledupuis8996 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only time Texas beat OU recently is when we started an incoherent backup QB…big bet

  • @ljgaming639
    @ljgaming639 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know we stole their DC, but Mizzou is legit under Drink.

  • @JeffCarpenter-pb9lc
    @JeffCarpenter-pb9lc 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Didn't Texas and Ou play in a much weaker conference the past three years?

  • @BTrainBCS
    @BTrainBCS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Can’t wait until Texas gets a real schedule challenge. This will change dramatically

    • @wokemanishboi5003
      @wokemanishboi5003 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      What are you even talking about? They got Michigan, Georgia, OU, and A&M. Those are NOT cake walk games.

    • @oddfuture4521
      @oddfuture4521 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wokemanishboi5003Typical aggy, all the same. Meanwhile, they avoid Alabama, Georgia, and Ole Miss. They have a way easier schedule than Texas, “real schedule” my azz

    • @EliezerPerez5
      @EliezerPerez5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@wokemanishboi5003 Not the Same Michigan that just recently won. They are getting a new coaching staff and most of their starters are heading to the NFL. So they will have a down year, TX is returning most of their important pieces especially QB. TX plays UGA and FL at home their only true road games are A&M and Arky which Arky isn't very good and A&M has a new coaching staff. They are getting blessed with this schedule and current circumstances. Just bc the brands look tough doesn't mean they are at their strongest.

    • @TheWincod75
      @TheWincod75 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ⁠@@EliezerPerez5 Texas is returning most of their important pieces… bruh? Worthy, Mitchell, Whittington, Sweat, Murphy, Sanders, Brooks - all gone.

    • @ssippilandelta4365
      @ssippilandelta4365 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The way Texas schedule is set up it’s actually pretty tough, Vandy is also a trap game, rivals on the road. Florida - A&M will be pretty interesting.