I appreciate the video featuring two excellent Suzuki motorcycles in top condition. I have a 98 Bandit S 1200 and a 1400 intruder. (same year) They are forever bikes for me.
I thoroughly enjoyed your video. I owned a GS1100E as a used bike to me, in the late 80's. The torque it had was amazing. My buddy and I would go riding up into the mountains in Northern California. He was a little guy on 600cc something, and I'm a big guy and I wouldn't even need to gear down as we would ascend into the mountains. He was the better rider, but I could leave him behind at the top end and on climbs. I'm seeking to find another one like mine, which looked identical to yours in the video.
Awesome, I'm glad you enjoyed the video! I had similar experiences with the GS1100 in the mid 1990's riding with others on newer bikes. Even today, the 1100 is a competent all-around motorcycle. Good luck in your search!
My first bike was the 82 GS 750E bought new in 82. My gift to myself for getting out of college and getting a job. It was a tough first bike to learn on though, LOL! I did a 2 week tour of Atlantic Canada with my wife on the back. Probably the greatest ride of my life. My second last bike was a beautiful 82 GS 850G with the shaft drive. It was in immacculate shape with only 9 k on it when I bought it. Dead reliable bikes that never let me down and were great to ride anywhere. Loved those comfy Suzuki seats! I rode a few 80's Honda 750's and they were similar good rides, but I was always a Suzuki guy. Never touched the Kawi's or Yammies, but they were all good back in those days. My last bike was a 2014 CB 500F. And I have to say that was the most fun of all. Just the right size of small but not too small. Super torquey and fun to ride. There is a lot to be said for small and lightweight bikes IMO. Anway, I just sold it, I can't do long rides anymore and that was the fun of motorcycling for me. It time to move on to a nice convertible with 4 wheels. And thanks for taking me back to my good ole days! Much appreciated!
I also had a gs850g. Rode it from California to Glacier National Park Montanta. Paid $1200 for it, rode for 3 years sold it for $1200. Got every penny's worth from it. Never gave me any problems. Wish I still had it.
I am 58 yrs old. Since 1974 when my father purchased his first motorcycle (blue CB360). I've been into motorcycles. I started riding at 13 yrs old. My first bike was a 1976 MR250 Elsinore. I have now own 17 bikes. My father owned 3 hondas. I owned predominantly Hondas. Same as my automobiles lol. I think Honda owes me, lol. 10 Honda car/suvs. But, I collected decades of Cycle World magazines. So, although I rode mostly Hondas. I read every article on all brands and models. At this point I probably could look at any part of any motorcycle and tell you what it is. I like watching your videos. Takes me back. It's funny how much info I have retained over the yrs. Your videos take me back to childhood. Keep up your good work. I'm sure WE have of lots company out there, lol. Have to figure out a way to chat on the phone. Think we could chat for hours lol. Take care & ride safe.
Hi Vince, it definitely sounds like we have a lot in common. The first street bike I rode was my dad's CB360T (red). If you want to e-mail me with your contact info I can get back to you that way: jonsmotorcycle@hotmail.com
@@1vincej1man, funny how.... fathers ( or mothers.... I ain't sexist) pass on the bike bug... 17 bikes... 👍... started out on a 250 Elsinore at 13.... gutsy stuff!!! My dear old dad got me an xr75 ....he spent the time 2 pull the head off and showed me how the engine went together.... I appreciate him all the more for such times... Like you je literally had EVERY DAMNED COPY OF EVERY EDITION OF a COUPLE OF BIKE MAGS.... ... kept it up til his passing. Aprox 1982 , he brought home a magazine... an annual special that documented all bikes of all models and brands .... I studied it intricately ... at 13 or so years old my mind was made up... Suzuki's Gsx 1100 had listed the highest top speed... it was my choice!!🤩. I honestly don't recall ever telling him ... just my dream bike. Cut to 1988 or 89... he finds a 82 gs1100gz bargain...... Helps me buy it!!!!! Wow!!! Followed me home in his car from purchase....I open her up.... we get home .. " the look of concern on his face as he simply stated... You "REALLY PULLED AWAY FROM THE LIGHTS!!. No doubt second thoughts!!.. "... ..... Well , I was 18.. 54 now ... he passed a couple of years ago... We're alright... I'm a lucky guy.. Ride on bro'.😱😎⭐👌 ...
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 you've got a super cool channel my friend. I noticed too that your father too generously passed the motorcycle bug onto you and had great faith in your riding ability.... even my sister to this to this day scoots about London on her vespa.... I think it's just grand! U know...... my dear old dad.... ( Psycho 😉😱😎) bump started his kwaka H2 mach4 750, dressed in his full race leathers, down our driveway one Saturday night in ,1974. I was out front with the two teens that lived across the court where we lived.... "Robert!.. GET ON!!!" HE called to me. With gusto I leapt pillion grinning ear to ear. And he took off. I mean he BLOODY WHEELIED down the street!! Now dad liked a nip of whiskey , I'll just leave that one.. I recall my knees at my shoulders.. and having two fingers somehow jammed into his waist . Needless to say the teens were most impressed! And I was too young to or stoopid to fear ... so... That was my first ride ever 😆😆😆✌️🥴🤩. I asked if he recalled that night.... On his deathbed.. he went bright red and said no..... 😂 Bless him... Thanks again Jon. Sincerely Robert janicki
I bought the GS 1100 E brand new when it came out and still ride it. I read first in Los Angeles,, Torrance where I used to live from Tijuana, Mexico all up on Pacific Coast Highway 101 to San Franciso, and then moved to Europe and rode it twice back in the 90s all around Europe. Love this bike.
The G has that powerful low RPM growl with power, and different sound as you don't hear the chain shish. The drive shaft and gearbox on the G are as good as it gets.
I have owned one for approximately 18 years,and I got the 1166 kit installed many years ago. Higher compression pistons,but you need to get the 2 valve recesses machined into the 4 valve piston crowns as they aren’t made for the 2 valve heads,it’s worth it for the extra power,heaps of grunt.
My first street bike was a 1974 Kawasaki S1-250 triple. I traded that in on a brand new 1978 GS1000E and I've been hooked on the GS's ever since. I'm still kicking myself for ever selling that bike. Mine was black with the white stripe. Try finding one of those tanks. In 1983 I bought a Honda V65 magna, which was the first year for them. It was a really nice bike but I still prefer a GS. I've also owned other Kawasaki's and Yamahas, but nothing beats a vintage GS in my opinion. I own two Harleys, but I also own a 1981 GS1100E and a 1982 GS1100G. I will not make the mistake of selling one of my GS's ever again. Thanks for the great video.
That's awesome! It sounds like you still have some great bikes in the garage. I previously owned the black and white '78 GS1000E and several V-65s. I still love the GS bikes as well.
Between the 2 it's hard to pick because the 850 GSL was a Great bike. Fast enough but that extra Power is great. However I love the shaft. The GSL g 1000 was a great bike too the one with the shaft. But I'd be satisfied with the 850 and They still had the convenience of kick start of you had a dead battery.
@@LRTrack yeah man... the 1100..... Had that missing ooomph!!!! Cool.... I actually use that model name as my e-mail address.... loved my ' big G'... ( what a mate used to call it... lol)
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 wow! 4 valve heads... so essentially a GSX engine. .,.. ahhh but did it have that crucial trademark camshaft rattle the 2 valve had?😉...... Ahhh the memory...💪🫶
I'm glad that you're doing these real-world reviews on bikes that riders might be lucky enough to find tucked away in a garage or basement. These bikes were competent performers then, and thanks to you, we can see that they are still competent performers today. The biggest issue I can see is parts availability for 40 year old motorcycles. Your neighborhood independent shop will love to have you come in. Be prepared to hear "I remember when these were new" a lot. I owned a 1982 GS850G from 1989 to 1997, and it was a very good motorcycle. The only things that it had over the 2005 1200 HD Roadster I bought new is a bigger gas tank, a gas gauge, and a gear position indicator. While the Suzi never got more than 49 mpg, the HD routinely squeezes 60 miles from every gallon. Very Japanese in its quality. Still, if I ran into a nice pre-1990 Japanese bike, it would be difficult to say "no thanks".
The 2005 1200 Roadster is one of the nicest Sportsters (it actually has some suspension and some oomph) and I like riding them. The 850G and 1100G are essentially the same bike but the 1100 obviously has more power. My 1100 averages around 40+ mpg. I guess I'm just hooked on the older Japanese bikes. Cheers!
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 My Suzi had the exact same black and gold livery as the 1100G you have. My Roadster is Yellow Pearl and black. I'm not a fan of aftermarket exhaust systems and think that the bikes you have were sharp lookers from the factory. I'm near Pittsburgh, where in Pennsylvania are you?
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 I used to do service work at the City of Lebanon wastewater treatment plant, and have an Iron Valley HD T shirt in my collection. Here's a nice ride for you: Route 30 from Gettysburg to Breezewood. Ride it once and you'll be hooked.
I live in eTown. I just bought an 82 GS 11 G. I saw your videos online and recognized the roads! I’d like to tap in to some of your knowledge. Always been after one of these.
Two bikes from my heyday ! My friend had an E model in 1983 and it was fast and fantastic. Today, if i had to pick i may go with the G model, cuz i like taller gearing for the hiway and i do not like chain maintenance at all :)
My 83 GL is a fast easy bike to ride, low seat height and great looks. I have the 750 also, more of a sport bike and just as fun. I put stubby bars and lowered the triple tree by a half inch and it helped the handling on the 1100. I ride it more than any of my other bikes (except my Kawa Eilimnator!)
Loved the video, thanks. As an 80s child from the UK, I love that classic Japanese is now beginning to spark some interest instead of people's eyes glazing over when you say a bunch of letters and numbers when they ask what you ride. In the UK, Triumph & Ducati (or MV & Bimota if you had deep pockets) were deemed interesting, UJM were appreciated by those who knew, but never cool. For me, the G is about the most perfect profile of an early 80s bike as you can get, and I'm beginning to get all nostalgic for a straightforward aircooled 4 as a project type bike. I did also laugh aloud when I saw the gear position indicator on the E - 2 decades before the UK bike press started making a thing about bikes having/not-having it.
Glad you enjoyed the video Adam! I agree, it's still shocking to see early 1980's bikes with gear indicators, fuel gauges, side stand warning lights, and even a temp gauge on the GS1100E. Suzuki definitely had the best instrumentation in the business at the time (and still great today). I'm a huge fan of this era of bikes - if you can find a nice one, don't hesitate to give it a go!
That "gs1100g" is actually a stripped down gs1100gk. It was their full dress tourer before the Cavalcade. Somebody removed the bags and the large fairing. But, there's a GS1100GL model out there as well. Might as well be clear.
Good eye Doug! I stripped this one down and back to the G setup. I have had the stock 1100G and I currently own the 1100GL as well. Since I have brought the GK back to the G setup (other than the seat) I go with G for the sake of brevity. Cheers!
Thanks Jon, I was looking forward to this one! I must agree that the GS1100E is total eye candy. A super performer in it's day. However, the sound of your GS1100G, with that delicious sounding exhaust and those longer gears was pure music to my ears. I once owned a GS1000C and just loved the 2-valve motor's linear power delivery. Thanks again, this was a really good one!
Thanks for the vid. I actually learned how to ride on the 1100 E in 83 thanks to a speed freak neighbor. 2 wheel, 4 wheel, race props, and a few other questionably lethal projectiles later, and I'm still here to enjoy and wanting the 1100 E back in my stable. She was the silver toned grey color with red Suzuki print, Still don't know the official color name. Such a nice bike to ride. Probably won't be riding it in flips flops and shorts this go round.
i had a 1982 gs 750. it was 30 years old when i bought it. it looked like your red bike. i really liked it , but blew up the motor shortly after buying it. parts were hard to locate. both your bikes are great looking. i like the mad max look of the black one. i think my 750 was a gs 750e. it looked very similar to yours.
Ive had a 82 gs850g for 25 years i put a built 1100g motor on it 10 years ago has 1350 jugs and a welded crankshaft for reasons you know why im so impressed with it even after these years that i will probably never buy anything else even after 10 years of some crazy abuse the motor still runs flawless peace
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 I did leave the 850 badges on until a couple years ago was on a road trip when i ran into some serious weather think tornado alley Mo,Kansas,Oklahoma wind came in so fast so bad broke my windshield in half 1 side cover i kinda seen it disappear out the corner of my eye but i was to busy staying upright and looking for anywhere i could to hide from what they a micro burst storm was gone as quick as it appeared i took pictures of it as it rolled right on past me craziest s it i've ever experienced and no sign of my cover found my half windshield after a semi rolled over it so now i dont have any CC badges just tank and engine emblems even with the 850 badges whenever you really get after it there's no mistaken the its not stock and if they really listen they realize that it turns way more RPM than they ever was supposed put it like this i gave up buying tack cables and tachometers a couple after the swap because it flys past 12,000 like its not there why my crankshaft is welded it become un indexed almost immediately after it built my fault because i didn't listen to my builder who told me that we should i also had to change the speedo to a 1978 140mph unit 3rd gear i shift into 4th about 115 and it go past 140 before you need 5th i have mad respect for this bike i rarely beat on it anymore i know what its capable of i also know it will hurt you so fast dont blink if you have the right hand twisted to Max because it becomes unpredictable dont ask me how i know that i slid on pavement so far full leather on that most of my jacket was chewed off mid chest on 1 side leather gloves palms gone motor bars on right side was gone almost got the motor bars header seat you know the deal if you ride because if you ride it happens this year we made 5 states almost 30,000 miles next year bucket list east coast 1 destination wheels though time could care less about dragons tail whatever dangerous road blah blah Im a lone rider thats managed to make it past an age riding a stupid fast japanese bike that everyone told me dont or why would you ect and love the fact anymore the fact I am not afraid to ride it anywhere and its gonna be 42 years old quick and it more dependable than any new bike it owes me nothing and with proper service i have no question it will service me until i can no longer ride although i am playing with a trike conversion for it lol sorry for the book its just i find very few people that have the love for these old girls i have 1 in thirty years thats even crazier than i am he followed me twice into a gas station just to about suzuki second time i realized he was real deal went to his house and he had 23 running riding bikes all between1978 and 83 from 500 cc to 1100g 1100e a 78 1000e with just over 2000 miles ect ect real deal oh and nothing for sale just good with a passion for these wonderful machines Peace
Changed my '82 GS1100EZ gearing from 42/15 sprockets to 40/16 and that change alone made the GS quite a bit smoother on the open road. I couldn't tell any difference in pulling power because the GS1100EZ had plenty of torque and seemed to ignore the gearing change. Still using the 630 boat anchor chain!. I've noticed that over the years, the Vance&Hines exhaust note on my GS seems to get peoples attention more than any sportbike sound. Memories of the original dual exhaust are gone.....way gone!
I think that's a good call on the gearing. If I change the gearing, I'll also go with a much lighter chain to get back some acceleration. I may also run a Delkevic Exhaust at some point. Before those changes, I will replace the clutch cable for a lighter pull and firm up my front spring rates.
Hi Jon, very nice old school bikes, i would be proud to own either one of them. I hope one day you come across the Yamaha FJ 1100 or 1200. These bikes look like full on tourers with a killer aircooled motor......cheers from Australia
Thanks Joe! I previously owned a nice FJ1100 with magnesium race wheels, full exhaust, etc. It was a nice bike - very quick and comfortable as well. I would love to find a nice one to review.
I put a Pacifico fairing with lowers on both my GSL 850 and the 1100 GLZ. I put a rug over the tank. My dog would leap up, I'd catch her and put her butt on the seat with her paws on the tank. Off we'd go! We owned the road!
I have owned the 91 and 92 GSX1100G's. I thought I was missing out on the performance and handling of chain drive E's.Though, I have only had 2 events where the shaft drive effect caught me by surprise in a road corner. From your commentary, it seems like I am not really giving up anything with the G and the taller gearing is probably better for the way I ride. I guess I will work some more on an old 1980 GS 1000G barn find I purchased a couple years ago and enjoy it too.
Very cool 😎! The GSX1100G is a completely different animal, with a GSX-R1100 motor, long wheelbase, and soft stock suspension that is impacted by the throttle-induced shaft-drive effect. The GS1000G is also softly suspended in stock form and benefits from stiffer shocks and springs. I did those upgrades to my GS1100G, and I'm happy with the results. Good luck with the GS1000G. Cheers!
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 Yamaha's version was YICS, or Yamaha Induction Control System. I don't recall Honda or Kawasaki having any acronyms at the time.
Thank you! I have owned two V65 Magnas and a V65 Sabre as well. I'm a bit gun-shy on those bikes due to their age and complexity. However, If I can find a V65 owner locally, I would love to review one.
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 Age and complexity? Everything you put on TH-cam is from that time frame. They may be slightly more complex but they still operate the same way. If you're interested I have two V65 Magna's you can review. Both 1986 and one with 10K miles the other with 5K.
@@jbtoptc7327 I would love to review them! Are you local to the Lancaster area? By age and complexity I mean the combination of those two factors. Liquid cooling, V-4 engine configuration, very tight packaging, liquid crystal displays, etc. add lots of time to a restoration project. Cheers!
It's me again John ........ I've got comments scattered throughout on this topic.... pleasure to be communicating. Now , 1 more question. I'm In Australia as I've mentioned... here the 16 valve chain driven model was the GSX 1100. It was the production race model.... Ohhhbh yeahh... Did any of the U.S. models have GSX title?
I've owned both, on right after the other. My memory... the E is much faster, and is lighter. Great torque, and a good top-end hit. The G... was heavy, smooth. These memories are from about 35 years ago Put a 520 chain conversion on the E, at some point... .made a positive diff is my recall. G is substantially heavier, less power to the rear wheel... E definitely more athletic, is my recall.
The E is more visceral with the lower gearing and power rush at 6k rpm - it feels faster. Thus, I was surprised by the roll-on results. Weight for both bikes is pretty similar actually, due to their similarity and shared components. The only real difference being tank capacity and the shaft drive unit itself. The G is smoother and more relaxed feeling due to the taller gearing, but it is deceptively quick due to the motor tuning. I would love to put a 520 chain on the E.
This is the Period when Suzuki was the best UJM builder . They had the BEST Chassis/Handling of the Japanese . Best Gearbox's . Also BEST SHAFTDRIVE . FAR superior to BMW and Moto Guzzi as well as the other Japanese Makers . Engines were totally comparable to any other Manufacturer from Japan . Bulletproof reliable and good Economy , all things considered . While THESE Bikes , shown , were Current Models , Suzuki was DEVELOPING the " Game Changer " . GSX-R 750 . Goal Posts moved after that .
My friend just picked up a 1982 1100 G. When i took it for ride i noticed how smooth the shifting was !! The transmission its better then my ZRX1200!!! Tons of torgue and a very comfortable bike. When he rides with the gang he can easily keep up with us at normal speeds and the company includes my ZRX1200 FZ09 CB1100 etc...
Yep, that has been my experience as well. I have a comparison of the GS1100G and my ZRX1200R on the channel as well if you want to check that out: th-cam.com/video/vxxIpFNinkE/w-d-xo.html
I recall these older shaft drive bikes, before the parallelogram design, would jack up and down with the throttle. Anyway, my 83 GS1100E would raise the front wheel a few inches off the ground in first. Goodbye G.
The Suzuki GS1100G and L shaft-drive bikes had very little shaft jacking. No doubt the E is quicker. But life's not a drag race all the time, and the G is stronger in many real-world riding situations. I rode both again today and enjoyed every minute.
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 I had the GS1100E in my 20s, every ride was a drag race. Now Im in my 60s and every ride is a gentle cruise on a BMW RT. It has never seen redline, would scare the crap out of me.
Feel the same about those two bikes. Love the look of my 85 ES ( 4 into 1 Supertrapp ) but honestly enjoy riding my 82 G more ( completely stock ). I do like the sound of the Delkevic exhaust on yours! The 2 valve is deceptive on it's power just keeps coming on. I have stock seats on both of mine but the G is just more comfortable ergonomically to spend the day on. I'm assuming you're still using stock air box on your G if so did you have to change jetting when you put the 4 into 1 on?
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 Thanks for letting me know! Crossover is getting a little rusty and when the time comes going to go with the Delkevic. Prefer the stock air box on a model like the G those air pods are a pain to get carbs tuned correctly. Might give those bars a try also.
I wonder how much difference the aftermarket exhaust on the G model makes in your acceleration test. Since the E is bone stock and the G is not, I wonder if the results would be different concerning the acceleration test. Both are amazing bikes as I also have both in my collection, but I do tend to like my E more.
I'm sure that's a factor, but a 4-into-1 usually diminishes midrange for the sake of top-end. The E has much more performance potential with the 16-valve head and available hop-up parts.
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 I don't find that to be the case on the GS's. At least not on any of the one's I have put a 4-1 on. Yes, if you really want to wake up an E model, install some flatslides and a pipe. OMG the difference is amazing. I modified my ES that way and it is a whole different animal.
Hey Jon, I really want for you to do a comparison, of your '80 XS11 special, to the GS11G........ they're both really the same, mechanically, I myself have some interest in possibly getting one of those GS11G's,,,,,, since my XS11H has the fairing and bags and all.
@@29madmangaud29 I'm sorry but the xs 1100s paled in comparison to the GS. .... I know the gearboxes would give out early .. losing second... And simply they all disappeared off the market early..... not to be mean ... im sure U love your bike..... But it's chalk and cheese.... there are GS1100s that had done 500,000 KMs .... bullet proof!!!!!
Where's all the 82 GS1100 GZ's shafties? The GZ was the high compression model.... it was wicked compared to the GKE( fairing and panniers stripped off).... i had both.... I used all the shaft splines up from all the city 's wreckers... on the GZ... wheelies... lol... Truly bulletproof motors.. possible to get well over 300 000 kms... no smoke... braided hoses helped remove spongy front brakesauto indicators were handy... sit comfortably on the tonne touring ( not that I'd ever...😇)... Gosh i loved that bike... peace out!
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 No thank YOU BROTHER!.. Love it 💜💜💪💪💪 A quick story - if I may,? I couriered on mine for 4 years in Melbourne )88 to ,92...) One night I was headed Up a steep road ( Toorak road) as I hit the incline. . The lights 150 m before me began turned amber.. I dropped to 2nd opened her up and hit the top cross road ( Glenferrie Rd)... Bloody jumped all FOUR LANES!!!!!!!) LOL.... ( 😇 Not really .. ahem....officer..🤯) Landed in a wet patch(leaky pipe under Rd?!!) Fishtailed down t' other side... A crazy stable beast they were indeed.... God bless all the BIG G'S... SEE U MATE!🙏💪😁💜
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 Hey man, just a about to enjoy your Z1300 vid... prob. Watching all your stuff... so cool... I've got an mt10... ( fzr1000)... mate NAHHH... they're boring! Traction control/ abs.. yawn 🥱!
@@robertjanicki3036 I love the modern bikes as well, but they're so competent that I have trouble behaving well on them. Plus, they are better than I am, so when I ride them I feel like the weak link! Still. I would love to try the MT10! I've owned the FZ1, R1, FZ-09 and FJ-09 previously. Cheers!
Hi Brian, while the GK is based on the G, there are a few differences other than the fairing and bags. The GS1100G has longer rear shocks and a flat seat. Mine was a GK as well, thus the stepped seat. I put G length shocks on the rear. There may be a few other differences that I'm not aware of. Cheers!
I'll take the G . The exhaust seems to sound better on the G and shaft drive and 2 valve head. Is the bikini fairing stock? Enjoyed the video Jon and RIDE SAFE OUT THERE!
Thanks for the comparison! There must be something not quite right with your E, though; it should do 40-80 in 5th gear in 6.5 seconds, give or take a couple of tenths. You GK is about where one would expect. Neither of these bikes were terrific on race tracks in stock form. Compared to the CB750/900/1100F, the CBX and the GPz1100, the Suzukis GS series lacked badly when it came to cornering clearance. If you look at Wes Cooley's GS1000-based (basically the same crankcases and frame), it had a beveled alternator cover, extended forks by 35 mm (nearly 1.5 in) and even longer shocks in order to gain some much needed banking angle. The Suzukis had the best stock chassis' though, followed by the Kawasakis. The Honda CBs were OK, but let down by sloppy production and very "tolerant" tolerances. Add a bolted section of the frame, and you always ran the risk of ending up with a flexi-flier. Albeit with more cornering clearance than the competition 😄
I have no doubt that you know what you're talking about when it comes to the classic bikes. However, I respectfully disagree on the 6.5 second 40-80 number for the E. I'm not sure where the 6.5 second top gear roll-on figure came from. If that's from a magazine, it's a misprint. My E would have to be running very poorly to take 40% longer to hit the mark. Also, I recently recorded a 6.3 second 40-80 on a modern bike - a bike that makes 80 ft-lb of torque at 3,500 rpm. It was in another league compared to any of the 80's bikes. And it displaced almost 300cc more than the 1100 E. Finally, I recently rode another beautiful E and it ran just like mine. The 1100G motor is tuned for torque at low-mid level rpm as opposed to the E motor that was tuned with an emphasis on top-end. A drag race would give the advantage to the E. Cheers
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 I have not tested them myself, I refer to numbers from Cycle World magazine. From memory, they had several tests with similar numbers to the one I wrote. The test I looked up was for the 1983 GS1100ES, that set a time just under 6.5 seconds. The 1150 was even quicker. MOTORRAD magazine tested the 1150E to 7.8 seconds from 60-140 kph, or 37 to 87 mph, in top gear. I cannot tell how methodical they did their tests or how accurate they were, but both magazines used a rolling third wheel hooked up to a computer. The quickest modern nakeds will, according to MOTORRAD, do 60-180 kph (37 to 112 mph) in top gear in about 9 seconds.
@@64faffi I just looked up the 40-80 time for the 1982 GS1100E in Cycle world, 7.4 seconds. I will continue to ride the GS1100E and re-visit the roll-on test again in the future. It's a 40 year old bike with only 5k miles on it, so it will probably loosen up and get quicker as I ride it. I'm a tall, heavy rider as well so that doesn't help my times.
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 Size, and particularly weight, have a big impact on acceleration. MOTORRAD tast solo and two-up, and the difference in performance can be staggering.
@@jimmycarter8455 You may need to find used parts if they're not available through Suzuki. Or you could look for aftermarket transmission parts since these bikes are commonly raced. Cheers!
I've owned or ridden most of the V-4 bikes: (2) V-65 Magna's, V-65 Sabre, V-45 Sabre, 1200 Madura, V-max, VF1000R, etc. As much as I like the power delivery, sound, and smoothness of the V-4s, they are too maintenance intensive, complex, and heavy for me to want to own an antique V-4 currently. However, I would love to review any of those bikes if I get the chance. Cheers!
In that era, it was a variation on a theme, built around a bulletproof engine and drivetrain. Dedicated sportbikes like the Interceptor and the Katana were still on the drawing board. You could take either one of these bikes and ride from sunup to sundown and love every minute of it.
Did the G have air assisted ride? If so, why replace it, with what and is it better that way? I have some beautiful oldies I would love to trade for a Gmodel.
The G has air-assist forks (like the E). I replaced the internal springs with Progressive units and tailored the preload spacers to best fit my riding style. I replaced the rear shocks with Emgo units. Sock, there is lots of fore and aft rocking motion on and off throttle and brakes. It rides firmer now, but the fore and aft motion is very well controlled.
I appreciate the video featuring two excellent Suzuki motorcycles in top condition. I have a 98 Bandit S 1200 and a 1400 intruder. (same year) They are forever bikes for me.
Right on! I'm glad you found bikes that suit you well. I've owned both of those bikes previously - they're neat machines.Cheers!
I thoroughly enjoyed your video. I owned a GS1100E as a used bike to me, in the late 80's. The torque it had was amazing. My buddy and I would go riding up into the mountains in Northern California. He was a little guy on 600cc something, and I'm a big guy and I wouldn't even need to gear down as we would ascend into the mountains. He was the better rider, but I could leave him behind at the top end and on climbs. I'm seeking to find another one like mine, which looked identical to yours in the video.
Awesome, I'm glad you enjoyed the video! I had similar experiences with the GS1100 in the mid 1990's riding with others on newer bikes. Even today, the 1100 is a competent all-around motorcycle. Good luck in your search!
My first bike was the 82 GS 750E bought new in 82. My gift to myself for getting out of college and getting a job. It was a tough first bike to learn on though, LOL! I did a 2 week tour of Atlantic Canada with my wife on the back. Probably the greatest ride of my life.
My second last bike was a beautiful 82 GS 850G with the shaft drive. It was in immacculate shape with only 9 k on it when I bought it. Dead reliable bikes that never let me down and were great to ride anywhere. Loved those comfy Suzuki seats!
I rode a few 80's Honda 750's and they were similar good rides, but I was always a Suzuki guy. Never touched the Kawi's or Yammies, but they were all good back in those days.
My last bike was a 2014 CB 500F. And I have to say that was the most fun of all. Just the right size of small but not too small. Super torquey and fun to ride. There is a lot to be said for small and lightweight bikes IMO.
Anway, I just sold it, I can't do long rides anymore and that was the fun of motorcycling for me. It time to move on to a nice convertible with 4 wheels. And thanks for taking me back to my good ole days! Much appreciated!
You're very welcome! Thanks for sharing the memories!
I also had a gs850g. Rode it from California to Glacier National Park Montanta. Paid $1200 for it, rode for 3 years sold it for $1200. Got every penny's worth from it. Never gave me any problems. Wish I still had it.
It's tough to let them go isn't it. The 80's was a golden era for motorcycles IMO.
@@outwestexplorer1966 It is tough to let them go, isn't it. I think the 80's was a golden era for motorcycles, IMO.
I am 58 yrs old. Since 1974 when my father purchased his first motorcycle (blue CB360). I've been into motorcycles. I started riding at 13 yrs old. My first bike was a 1976 MR250 Elsinore. I have now own 17 bikes. My father owned 3 hondas. I owned predominantly Hondas. Same as my automobiles lol. I think Honda owes me, lol. 10 Honda car/suvs.
But, I collected decades of Cycle World magazines. So, although I rode mostly Hondas. I read every article on all brands and models. At this point I probably could look at any part of any motorcycle and tell you what it is.
I like watching your videos. Takes me back. It's funny how much info I have retained over the yrs. Your videos take me back to childhood. Keep up your good work. I'm sure WE have of lots company out there, lol. Have to figure out a way to chat on the phone. Think we could chat for hours lol. Take care & ride safe.
Hi Vince, it definitely sounds like we have a lot in common. The first street bike I rode was my dad's CB360T (red). If you want to e-mail me with your contact info I can get back to you that way: jonsmotorcycle@hotmail.com
Will do
@@1vincej1man, funny how.... fathers ( or mothers.... I ain't sexist) pass on the bike bug... 17 bikes... 👍... started out on a 250 Elsinore at 13.... gutsy stuff!!!
My dear old dad got me an xr75 ....he spent the time 2 pull the head off and showed me how the engine went together.... I appreciate him all the more for such times...
Like you je literally had EVERY DAMNED COPY OF EVERY EDITION OF a COUPLE OF BIKE MAGS....
... kept it up til his passing.
Aprox 1982 , he brought home a magazine... an annual special that documented all bikes of all models and brands ....
I studied it intricately ... at 13 or so years old my mind was made up... Suzuki's Gsx 1100 had listed the highest top speed... it was my choice!!🤩. I honestly don't recall ever telling him ... just my dream bike.
Cut to 1988 or 89... he finds a 82 gs1100gz bargain......
Helps me buy it!!!!!
Wow!!!
Followed me home in his car from purchase....I open her up.... we get home
.. " the look of concern on his face as he simply stated... You "REALLY PULLED AWAY FROM THE LIGHTS!!. No doubt second thoughts!!.. "...
..... Well , I was 18.. 54 now
... he passed a couple of years ago... We're alright... I'm a lucky guy..
Ride on bro'.😱😎⭐👌
...
@@robertjanicki3036 Right on, Robert! Thanks for sharing the memories!
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 you've got a super cool channel my friend.
I noticed too that your father too generously passed the motorcycle bug onto you and had great faith in your riding ability.... even my sister to this to this day scoots about London on her vespa.... I think it's just grand!
U know...... my dear old dad.... ( Psycho 😉😱😎) bump started his kwaka H2 mach4 750, dressed in his full race leathers, down our driveway one Saturday night in ,1974.
I was out front with the two teens that lived across the court where we lived....
"Robert!.. GET ON!!!" HE called to me. With gusto I leapt pillion grinning ear to ear. And he took off.
I mean he BLOODY WHEELIED down the street!!
Now dad liked a nip of whiskey , I'll just leave that one..
I recall my knees at my shoulders.. and having two fingers somehow jammed into his waist .
Needless to say the teens were most impressed!
And I was too young to or stoopid to fear ... so...
That was my first ride ever 😆😆😆✌️🥴🤩.
I asked if he recalled that night.... On his deathbed.. he went bright red and said no..... 😂
Bless him...
Thanks again Jon.
Sincerely Robert janicki
I bought the GS 1100 E brand new when it came out and still ride it. I read first in Los Angeles,, Torrance where I used to live from Tijuana, Mexico all up on Pacific Coast Highway 101 to San Franciso, and then moved to Europe and rode it twice back in the 90s all around Europe. Love this bike.
So cool! Those sound like epic trips on a wonderful bike!
The G has that powerful low RPM growl with power, and different sound as you don't hear the chain shish. The drive shaft and gearbox on the G are as good as it gets.
Yep, almost zero shaft jacking on the G and that 5-speed gearbox is better than most modern gearboxes. I love the Suzukis from this time period.
I have owned one for approximately 18 years,and I got the 1166 kit installed many years ago. Higher compression pistons,but you need to get the 2 valve recesses machined into the 4 valve piston crowns as they aren’t made for the 2 valve heads,it’s worth it for the extra power,heaps of grunt.
@@brianritchie6849 Right on Brian! I haven't heard of doing that before, but I bet yours is a beast!
I believe there was also 1300cc kits too. Which they definitely added extra power. Kawis also had kits for those too.
@@marcalampi5036 how about Yoshimura or Morowaki race kits and exhausts.... yee - haw!!!💪🫣🤣
My first street bike was a 1974 Kawasaki S1-250 triple. I traded that in on a brand new 1978 GS1000E and I've been hooked on the GS's ever since. I'm still kicking myself for ever selling that bike. Mine was black with the white stripe. Try finding one of those tanks. In 1983 I bought a Honda V65 magna, which was the first year for them. It was a really nice bike but I still prefer a GS. I've also owned other Kawasaki's and Yamahas, but nothing beats a vintage GS in my opinion. I own two Harleys, but I also own a 1981 GS1100E and a 1982 GS1100G. I will not make the mistake of selling one of my GS's ever again. Thanks for the great video.
That's awesome! It sounds like you still have some great bikes in the garage. I previously owned the black and white '78 GS1000E and several V-65s. I still love the GS bikes as well.
I owned a GSL 850 (Looooved it!) then upgraded to a GLZ 1100. The extra 250cc's , larger tank, lower center of gravity made a great bike FANTASTIC!!!
Awesome! The GLZ1100 is a rare machine. It was the only 1100cc Suzuki cruiser with the 16-valve head and chain-drive. A true performance cruiser!
Between the 2 it's hard to pick because the 850 GSL was a Great bike. Fast enough but that extra Power is great. However I love the shaft. The GSL g 1000 was a great bike too the one with the shaft. But I'd be satisfied with the 850 and They still had the convenience of kick start of you had a dead battery.
@@LRTrack yeah man... the 1100..... Had that missing ooomph!!!! Cool.... I actually use that model name as my e-mail address.... loved my ' big G'... ( what a mate used to call it... lol)
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 wow! 4 valve heads... so essentially a GSX engine.
.,.. ahhh but did it have that crucial trademark camshaft rattle the 2 valve had?😉......
Ahhh the memory...💪🫶
@@robertjanicki3036 Right on!
I'm glad that you're doing these real-world reviews on bikes that riders might be lucky enough to find tucked away in a garage or basement.
These bikes were competent performers then, and thanks to you, we can see that they are still competent performers today.
The biggest issue I can see is parts availability for 40 year old motorcycles. Your neighborhood independent shop will love to have you come in. Be prepared to hear "I remember when these were new" a lot.
I owned a 1982 GS850G from 1989 to 1997, and it was a very good motorcycle. The only things that it had over the 2005 1200 HD Roadster I bought new is a bigger gas tank, a gas gauge, and a gear position indicator. While the Suzi never got more than 49 mpg, the HD routinely squeezes 60 miles from every gallon. Very Japanese in its quality.
Still, if I ran into a nice pre-1990 Japanese bike, it would be difficult to say "no thanks".
The 2005 1200 Roadster is one of the nicest Sportsters (it actually has some suspension and some oomph) and I like riding them. The 850G and 1100G are essentially the same bike but the 1100 obviously has more power. My 1100 averages around 40+ mpg. I guess I'm just hooked on the older Japanese bikes. Cheers!
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 My Suzi had the exact same black and gold livery as the 1100G you have. My Roadster is Yellow Pearl and black. I'm not a fan of aftermarket exhaust systems and think that the bikes you have were sharp lookers from the factory. I'm near Pittsburgh, where in Pennsylvania are you?
@@spaceflight1019 Near Lancaster PA.
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 I used to do service work at the City of Lebanon wastewater treatment plant, and have an Iron Valley HD T shirt in my collection. Here's a nice ride for you: Route 30 from Gettysburg to Breezewood. Ride it once and you'll be hooked.
I had to go ride my GS1000GL after your last video I watched. I think that's going to happen again! Thank you.
Right on, you're welcome!
One of my favorite motorcycles you have there. Beautiful machine. That might be my All time favorite. Yup the gs 1000 gL
I got the ‘83 1100e. It’s my favourite bike up till now, and I have had a lot of bikes. Including the two first gen Hayabusa. This I won’t sell!
Right on! I've owned the newer bikes as well, but I love the classic bikes.
I live in eTown. I just bought an 82 GS 11 G. I saw your videos online and recognized the roads! I’d like to tap in to some of your knowledge. Always been after one of these.
@@PeterHerr-vf4zo Hi Peter, if you want to contact me directly, just send me an email at: jonsmotorcycle@hotmail.com
Two bikes from my heyday ! My friend had an E model in 1983 and it was fast and fantastic. Today, if i had to pick i may go with the G model, cuz i like taller gearing for the hiway and i do not like chain maintenance at all :)
The gearing can be changed easily on the E but it will never have the shaft drive.
Modern O-ring chains have greatly reduced the need to oil the chain, so don't let that stop you.
My 83 GL is a fast easy bike to ride, low seat height and great looks. I have the 750 also, more of a sport bike and just as fun. I put stubby bars and lowered the triple tree by a half inch and it helped the handling on the 1100. I ride it more than any of my other bikes (except my Kawa Eilimnator!)
Right on! Did you see my GS1100L vs Eliminator video?
Loved the video, thanks. As an 80s child from the UK, I love that classic Japanese is now beginning to spark some interest instead of people's eyes glazing over when you say a bunch of letters and numbers when they ask what you ride. In the UK, Triumph & Ducati (or MV & Bimota if you had deep pockets) were deemed interesting, UJM were appreciated by those who knew, but never cool.
For me, the G is about the most perfect profile of an early 80s bike as you can get, and I'm beginning to get all nostalgic for a straightforward aircooled 4 as a project type bike. I did also laugh aloud when I saw the gear position indicator on the E - 2 decades before the UK bike press started making a thing about bikes having/not-having it.
Glad you enjoyed the video Adam! I agree, it's still shocking to see early 1980's bikes with gear indicators, fuel gauges, side stand warning lights, and even a temp gauge on the GS1100E. Suzuki definitely had the best instrumentation in the business at the time (and still great today). I'm a huge fan of this era of bikes - if you can find a nice one, don't hesitate to give it a go!
Love your bikes and enjoy seeing you ride them.
Thanks Gord!
That "gs1100g" is actually a stripped down gs1100gk. It was their full dress tourer before the Cavalcade.
Somebody removed the bags and the large fairing. But, there's a GS1100GL model out there as well.
Might as well be clear.
Good eye Doug! I stripped this one down and back to the G setup. I have had the stock 1100G and I currently own the 1100GL as well. Since I have brought the GK back to the G setup (other than the seat) I go with G for the sake of brevity. Cheers!
Thanks Jon, I was looking forward to this one! I must agree that the GS1100E is total eye candy. A super performer in it's day. However, the sound of your GS1100G, with that delicious sounding exhaust and those longer gears was pure music to my ears. I once owned a GS1000C and just loved the 2-valve motor's linear power delivery. Thanks again, this was a really good one!
Right on! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the vid. I actually learned how to ride on the 1100 E in 83 thanks to a speed freak neighbor. 2 wheel, 4 wheel, race props, and a few other questionably lethal projectiles later, and I'm still here to enjoy and wanting the 1100 E back in my stable. She was the silver toned grey color with red Suzuki print, Still don't know the official color name. Such a nice bike to ride. Probably won't be riding it in flips flops and shorts this go round.
@rpdermody Right on! It's amazing any of us survived our youth! Even after all these years, they are great bikes to ride. Good luck in your search!
i had a 1982 gs 750. it was 30 years old when i bought it. it looked like your red bike. i really liked it , but blew up the motor shortly after buying it. parts were hard to locate. both your bikes are great looking. i like the mad max look of the black one. i think my 750 was a gs 750e. it looked very similar to yours.
Sorry to hear that! Parts can be a real challenge on the classic bikes.
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 yes, they can.
Ive had a 82 gs850g for 25 years i put a built 1100g motor on it 10 years ago has 1350 jugs and a welded crankshaft for reasons you know why im so impressed with it even after these years that i will probably never buy anything else even after 10 years of some crazy abuse the motor still runs flawless peace
Right on! I hope you left the 850 badges on just to mess with people 😉! Sounds like the ultimate sleeper. Cheers!
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 I did leave the 850 badges on until a couple years ago was on a road trip when i ran into some serious weather think tornado alley Mo,Kansas,Oklahoma wind came in so fast so bad broke my windshield in half 1 side cover i kinda seen it disappear out the corner of my eye but i was to busy staying upright and looking for anywhere i could to hide from what they a micro burst storm was gone as quick as it appeared i took pictures of it as it rolled right on past me craziest s it i've ever experienced and no sign of my cover found my half windshield after a semi rolled over it so now i dont have any CC badges just tank and engine emblems even with the 850 badges whenever you really get after it there's no mistaken the its not stock and if they really listen they realize that it turns way more RPM than they ever was supposed put it like this i gave up buying tack cables and tachometers a couple after the swap because it flys past 12,000 like its not there why my crankshaft is welded it become un indexed almost immediately after it built my fault because i didn't listen to my builder who told me that we should i also had to change the speedo to a 1978 140mph unit 3rd gear i shift into 4th about 115 and it go past 140 before you need 5th i have mad respect for this bike i rarely beat on it anymore i know what its capable of i also know it will hurt you so fast dont blink if you have the right hand twisted to Max because it becomes unpredictable dont ask me how i know that i slid on pavement so far full leather on that most of my jacket was chewed off mid chest on 1 side leather gloves palms gone motor bars on right side was gone almost got the motor bars header seat you know the deal if you ride because if you ride it happens this year we made 5 states almost 30,000 miles next year bucket list east coast 1 destination wheels though time could care less about dragons tail whatever dangerous road blah blah Im a lone rider thats managed to make it past an age riding a stupid fast japanese bike that everyone told me dont or why would you ect and love the fact anymore the fact I am not afraid to ride it anywhere and its gonna be 42 years old quick and it more dependable than any new bike it owes me nothing and with proper service i have no question it will service me until i can no longer ride although i am playing with a trike conversion for it lol sorry for the book its just i find very few people that have the love for these old girls i have 1 in thirty years thats even crazier than i am he followed me twice into a gas station just to about suzuki second time i realized he was real deal went to his house and he had 23 running riding bikes all between1978 and 83 from 500 cc to 1100g 1100e a 78 1000e with just over 2000 miles ect ect real deal oh and nothing for sale just good with a passion for these wonderful machines Peace
I had an 81 GS 1100 L that burned in my garage fire. Had a Kerker and re-jetted carbs. Fast Bike.
I'm sorry to hear that it burned up, Stan! I enjoy my 1983 GS1100L with a Delkevic Exhaust. As you said, it's a fast bike. Cheers!
Changed my '82 GS1100EZ gearing from 42/15 sprockets to 40/16 and that change alone made the GS quite a bit smoother on the open road. I couldn't tell any difference in pulling power because the GS1100EZ had plenty of torque and seemed to ignore the gearing change. Still using the 630 boat anchor chain!. I've noticed that over the years, the Vance&Hines exhaust note on my GS seems to get peoples attention more than any sportbike sound. Memories of the original dual exhaust are gone.....way gone!
I think that's a good call on the gearing. If I change the gearing, I'll also go with a much lighter chain to get back some acceleration. I may also run a Delkevic Exhaust at some point. Before those changes, I will replace the clutch cable for a lighter pull and firm up my front spring rates.
@@C_Dana Oh yeah... the GS sound ( ,1100s) with a 4into 1 and nice muffler....that was the shit!!!!! AGREED...🫵🫵🫵🫵😎👍
Hi Jon, very nice old school bikes, i would be proud to own either one of them. I hope one day you come across the Yamaha FJ 1100 or 1200. These bikes look like full on tourers with a killer aircooled motor......cheers from Australia
Thanks Joe! I previously owned a nice FJ1100 with magnesium race wheels, full exhaust, etc. It was a nice bike - very quick and comfortable as well. I would love to find a nice one to review.
I put a Pacifico fairing with lowers on both my GSL 850 and the 1100 GLZ. I put a rug over the tank. My dog would leap up, I'd catch her and put her butt on the seat with her paws on the tank. Off we'd go! We owned the road!
Very cool 😎! 🐕
Lots of good info in this comparison. The four valve engine will have the advantage at higher rpm but the two valve takes it at lower rpm.
I was still a bit surprised myself!
I have owned the 91 and 92 GSX1100G's. I thought I was missing out on the performance and handling of chain drive E's.Though, I have only had 2 events where the shaft drive effect caught me by surprise in a road corner. From your commentary, it seems like I am not really giving up anything with the G and the taller gearing is probably better for the way I ride. I guess I will work some more on an old 1980 GS 1000G barn find I purchased a couple years ago and enjoy it too.
Very cool 😎! The GSX1100G is a completely different animal, with a GSX-R1100 motor, long wheelbase, and soft stock suspension that is impacted by the throttle-induced shaft-drive effect. The GS1000G is also softly suspended in stock form and benefits from stiffer shocks and springs. I did those upgrades to my GS1100G, and I'm happy with the results. Good luck with the GS1000G. Cheers!
That 16 valve E engine by design was superior above 6 grand than the 2 valver. All while still keeping great usable low end.
Yep. It is also easier to adjust the valves on the 16-valve bikes, but they need adjusting more often.
Suzuki had the TSCC, or Twin Swirl Combustion Chamber system that boosted power on the four-valve engines.
@@spaceflight1019 That's correct!
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 Yamaha's version was YICS, or Yamaha Induction Control System. I don't recall Honda or Kawasaki having any acronyms at the time.
@@spaceflight1019 Right on!
Nice. Great comparison.
Do you only do inline 4 bikes and if not would you do a 1983-86 Honda V65 Magna or a 1984-85 V65 Sabre ?
Thank you! I have owned two V65 Magnas and a V65 Sabre as well. I'm a bit gun-shy on those bikes due to their age and complexity. However, If I can find a V65 owner locally, I would love to review one.
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 Age and complexity? Everything you put on TH-cam is from that time frame. They may be slightly more complex but they still operate the same way. If you're interested I have two V65 Magna's you can review. Both 1986 and one with 10K miles the other with 5K.
@@jbtoptc7327 I would love to review them! Are you local to the Lancaster area? By age and complexity I mean the combination of those two factors. Liquid cooling, V-4 engine configuration, very tight packaging, liquid crystal displays, etc. add lots of time to a restoration project. Cheers!
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 Tn. But if you're in the area.
@@jbtoptc7327 Right on. I appreciate the offer.
It's me again John
........ I've got comments scattered throughout on this topic.... pleasure to be communicating.
Now , 1 more question.
I'm In Australia as I've mentioned... here the 16 valve chain driven model was the GSX 1100.
It was the production race model.... Ohhhbh yeahh...
Did any of the U.S. models have GSX title?
@@robertjanicki3036 They didn't. The performance models were the GS1100E. All GS1100Es had 16-valve heads and chain-drive.
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 very interesting, thank you for responding. And may I add doing so , so often and faithfully... kudos to U.
I've owned both, on right after the other. My memory... the E is much faster, and is lighter. Great torque, and a good top-end hit. The G... was heavy, smooth. These memories are from about 35 years ago
Put a 520 chain conversion on the E, at some point... .made a positive diff is my recall.
G is substantially heavier, less power to the rear wheel... E definitely more athletic, is my recall.
The E is more visceral with the lower gearing and power rush at 6k rpm - it feels faster. Thus, I was surprised by the roll-on results. Weight for both bikes is pretty similar actually, due to their similarity and shared components. The only real difference being tank capacity and the shaft drive unit itself. The G is smoother and more relaxed feeling due to the taller gearing, but it is deceptively quick due to the motor tuning. I would love to put a 520 chain on the E.
This is the Period when Suzuki was the best UJM builder . They had the BEST Chassis/Handling of the Japanese . Best Gearbox's .
Also BEST SHAFTDRIVE . FAR superior to BMW and Moto Guzzi as well as the other Japanese Makers .
Engines were totally comparable to any other Manufacturer from Japan . Bulletproof reliable and good Economy , all things considered .
While THESE Bikes , shown , were Current Models , Suzuki was DEVELOPING the " Game Changer " . GSX-R 750 . Goal Posts moved after that .
Right on, John!
My friend just picked up a 1982 1100 G.
When i took it for ride i noticed how smooth the shifting was !!
The transmission its better then my ZRX1200!!!
Tons of torgue and a very comfortable bike.
When he rides with the gang he can easily keep up with us at normal speeds and the company includes my ZRX1200 FZ09 CB1100 etc...
Yep, that has been my experience as well. I have a comparison of the GS1100G and my ZRX1200R on the channel as well if you want to check that out: th-cam.com/video/vxxIpFNinkE/w-d-xo.html
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 I'm checking it out for sure👌
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 start watching it and turns out I've already seen it and commented lol....
I recall these older shaft drive bikes, before the parallelogram design, would jack up and down with the throttle.
Anyway, my 83 GS1100E would raise the front wheel a few inches off the ground in first. Goodbye G.
The Suzuki GS1100G and L shaft-drive bikes had very little shaft jacking. No doubt the E is quicker. But life's not a drag race all the time, and the G is stronger in many real-world riding situations. I rode both again today and enjoyed every minute.
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 I had the GS1100E in my 20s, every ride was a drag race. Now Im in my 60s and every ride is a gentle cruise on a BMW RT. It has never seen redline, would scare the crap out of me.
@@rookie962 Right on!
Feel the same about those two bikes. Love the look of my 85 ES ( 4 into 1 Supertrapp ) but honestly enjoy riding my 82 G more ( completely stock ). I do like the sound of the Delkevic exhaust on yours! The 2 valve is deceptive on it's power just keeps coming on. I have stock seats on both of mine but the G is just more comfortable ergonomically to spend the day on. I'm assuming you're still using stock air box on your G if so did you have to change jetting when you put the 4 into 1 on?
Right on Roger! I'm still running the stock airbox on the G. I went up one size on my pilots and mains. She runs like a champ!
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 Thanks for letting me know! Crossover is getting a little rusty and when the time comes going to go with the Delkevic. Prefer the stock air box on a model like the G those air pods are a pain to get carbs tuned correctly. Might give those bars a try also.
@@rogermcadams8806 Right on!
I wonder how much difference the aftermarket exhaust on the G model makes in your acceleration test. Since the E is bone stock and the G is not, I wonder if the results would be different concerning the acceleration test. Both are amazing bikes as I also have both in my collection, but I do tend to like my E more.
I'm sure that's a factor, but a 4-into-1 usually diminishes midrange for the sake of top-end. The E has much more performance potential with the 16-valve head and available hop-up parts.
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 I don't find that to be the case on the GS's. At least not on any of the one's I have put a 4-1 on. Yes, if you really want to wake up an E model, install some flatslides and a pipe. OMG the difference is amazing. I modified my ES that way and it is a whole different animal.
Hey Jon, I really want for you to do a comparison, of your '80 XS11 special, to the GS11G........ they're both really the same, mechanically, I myself have some interest in possibly getting one of those GS11G's,,,,,, since my XS11H has the fairing and bags and all.
It's in the works - I'd like to get that one filmed sometime this summer.
@@29madmangaud29 I'm sorry but the xs 1100s paled in comparison to the GS.
.... I know the gearboxes would give out early .. losing second...
And simply they all disappeared off the market early..... not to be mean ... im sure U love your bike..... But it's chalk and cheese.... there are GS1100s that had done 500,000 KMs .... bullet proof!!!!!
Did all GS1100 come with that cluster? I keep finding GS1150E in my area and they have this extremely blocky cluster
The 1982 and 1983 GS1100E had this cluster. The 1980 and 1981 GS1100E had the blockier housing.
I wonder how the G-frame would have done with a 16-valve motor and a chain?
@@ridemywheelie It would essentially be the E. The frames are similar enough that you definitely feel the family heritage. Cheers!
Where's all the 82 GS1100 GZ's shafties?
The GZ was the high compression model.... it was wicked compared to the GKE( fairing and panniers stripped off).... i had both.... I used all the shaft splines up from all the city 's wreckers... on the GZ... wheelies... lol...
Truly bulletproof motors.. possible to get well over 300 000 kms... no smoke... braided hoses helped remove spongy front brakesauto indicators were handy... sit comfortably on the tonne touring ( not that I'd ever...😇)... Gosh i loved that bike... peace out!
@@robertjanicki3036 Right on! Thanks for sharing the memories. Cheers!
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 No thank YOU BROTHER!..
Love it 💜💜💪💪💪
A quick story - if I may,? I couriered on mine for 4 years in Melbourne )88 to ,92...)
One night I was headed Up a steep road ( Toorak road) as I hit the incline. . The lights 150 m before me began turned amber.. I dropped to 2nd opened her up and hit the top cross road ( Glenferrie Rd)...
Bloody jumped all FOUR LANES!!!!!!!)
LOL.... ( 😇 Not really .. ahem....officer..🤯)
Landed in a wet patch(leaky pipe under Rd?!!) Fishtailed down t' other side...
A crazy stable beast they were indeed.... God bless all the BIG G'S... SEE U MATE!🙏💪😁💜
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 Hey man, just a about to enjoy your Z1300 vid... prob. Watching all your stuff... so cool... I've got an mt10... ( fzr1000)... mate NAHHH... they're boring!
Traction control/ abs.. yawn 🥱!
@@robertjanicki3036 I love the modern bikes as well, but they're so competent that I have trouble behaving well on them. Plus, they are better than I am, so when I ride them I feel like the weak link! Still. I would love to try the MT10! I've owned the FZ1, R1, FZ-09 and FJ-09 previously. Cheers!
@@robertjanicki3036 Right on Robert, thanks for sharing the memories!
Suzuki should take that 1250 Bandit motor and put it in a GS1100L type frame & sheet metal it would sell like hot cakes!
I think you're onto something!
I have an 1982 gs1100gk whats the difference between that and the g? Its fully faired and has hard bags?is that difference?
Hi Brian, while the GK is based on the G, there are a few differences other than the fairing and bags. The GS1100G has longer rear shocks and a flat seat. Mine was a GK as well, thus the stepped seat. I put G length shocks on the rear. There may be a few other differences that I'm not aware of. Cheers!
Love both bikes
Thanks, me too!
GS1100e VS. GSX650F would be interesting.
I may do that comparison if I ever have them in the garage at the same time.
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 Thanks
I'll take the G . The exhaust seems to sound better on the G and shaft drive and 2 valve head. Is the bikini fairing stock? Enjoyed the video Jon and RIDE SAFE OUT THERE!
Right on Henry! The G exhaust is Delkevic and the E is stock so it makes sense that the G sounds better. The fairing on the G is aftermarket as well.
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 is the fairing a OMARS?
@@henryhawk978 Emgo Viper fairing.
Jon i Love you're Suzuki GS 1100G. I wouldn't ask for more not even a wife, LoL
Right on, Marc!
Thanks for the comparison! There must be something not quite right with your E, though; it should do 40-80 in 5th gear in 6.5 seconds, give or take a couple of tenths. You GK is about where one would expect.
Neither of these bikes were terrific on race tracks in stock form. Compared to the CB750/900/1100F, the CBX and the GPz1100, the Suzukis GS series lacked badly when it came to cornering clearance. If you look at Wes Cooley's GS1000-based (basically the same crankcases and frame), it had a beveled alternator cover, extended forks by 35 mm (nearly 1.5 in) and even longer shocks in order to gain some much needed banking angle. The Suzukis had the best stock chassis' though, followed by the Kawasakis. The Honda CBs were OK, but let down by sloppy production and very "tolerant" tolerances. Add a bolted section of the frame, and you always ran the risk of ending up with a flexi-flier. Albeit with more cornering clearance than the competition 😄
I have no doubt that you know what you're talking about when it comes to the classic bikes. However, I respectfully disagree on the 6.5 second 40-80 number for the E. I'm not sure where the 6.5 second top gear roll-on figure came from. If that's from a magazine, it's a misprint. My E would have to be running very poorly to take 40% longer to hit the mark.
Also, I recently recorded a 6.3 second 40-80 on a modern bike - a bike that makes 80 ft-lb of torque at 3,500 rpm. It was in another league compared to any of the 80's bikes. And it displaced almost 300cc more than the 1100 E.
Finally, I recently rode another beautiful E and it ran just like mine. The 1100G motor is tuned for torque at low-mid level rpm as opposed to the E motor that was tuned with an emphasis on top-end. A drag race would give the advantage to the E. Cheers
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 I have not tested them myself, I refer to numbers from Cycle World magazine. From memory, they had several tests with similar numbers to the one I wrote. The test I looked up was for the 1983 GS1100ES, that set a time just under 6.5 seconds. The 1150 was even quicker. MOTORRAD magazine tested the 1150E to 7.8 seconds from 60-140 kph, or 37 to 87 mph, in top gear. I cannot tell how methodical they did their tests or how accurate they were, but both magazines used a rolling third wheel hooked up to a computer. The quickest modern nakeds will, according to MOTORRAD, do 60-180 kph (37 to 112 mph) in top gear in about 9 seconds.
@@64faffi I just looked up the 40-80 time for the 1982 GS1100E in Cycle world, 7.4 seconds. I will continue to ride the GS1100E and re-visit the roll-on test again in the future. It's a 40 year old bike with only 5k miles on it, so it will probably loosen up and get quicker as I ride it. I'm a tall, heavy rider as well so that doesn't help my times.
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 Size, and particularly weight, have a big impact on acceleration. MOTORRAD tast solo and two-up, and the difference in performance can be staggering.
The most impressive numbers are those of the GK, which is apparently a very strong performer.
Where can you find parts for 1100e transmission rotary ?
@@jimmycarter8455 You may need to find used parts if they're not available through Suzuki. Or you could look for aftermarket transmission parts since these bikes are commonly raced. Cheers!
I wonder about the mileage difference if any?
It's similar. 40-45 mpg if ridden as commuters. Or are we talking the amount of miles on each bike? Cheers!
MPG THX@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538
do any of the v4 bikes
I've owned or ridden most of the V-4 bikes: (2) V-65 Magna's, V-65 Sabre, V-45 Sabre, 1200 Madura, V-max, VF1000R, etc. As much as I like the power delivery, sound, and smoothness of the V-4s, they are too maintenance intensive, complex, and heavy for me to want to own an antique V-4 currently. However, I would love to review any of those bikes if I get the chance. Cheers!
Well Jon, I agree to disagree. I love the style of the GS11G, and not so much that new look of the Katana style E model.
No worries, looks are certainly subjective!
In that era, it was a variation on a theme, built around a bulletproof engine and drivetrain. Dedicated sportbikes like the Interceptor and the Katana were still on the drawing board. You could take either one of these bikes and ride from sunup to sundown and love every minute of it.
@@spaceflight1019 Well put!
Is the g , a good daily drive
Yes, the G is a great daily driver.
The E all day
Right on!
Did the G have air assisted ride? If so, why replace it, with what and is it better that way?
I have some beautiful oldies I would love to trade for a Gmodel.
The G has air-assist forks (like the E). I replaced the internal springs with Progressive units and tailored the preload spacers to best fit my riding style. I replaced the rear shocks with Emgo units. Sock, there is lots of fore and aft rocking motion on and off throttle and brakes. It rides firmer now, but the fore and aft motion is very well controlled.