Strangest lot of Locomotives I've Seen - But They're Great!
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- I was sent this lot of strange locomotives in the mail, I've never owned any like this before but they're certainly interesting to look at. I had no idea someone was going to send a lot like this but I enjoyed looking through everything can't wait to get working on them. I'd like to thank Lyndon for sending these engines.
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I'm glad you like the lot, Harrison! Want to be a little bit different and send you a few unique locomotives that weren't apart of your collection yet, though living on the west coast kind of put my bias towards the SP and to an extent, the Rio Grande. And as someone who is half Japanese, I thought the Kato N scale D51 would of been a nice addition as well.
-Lyndon
That was extremely nice of you to send Harrison that wonderful lot. 👍
Thank you so much again for sending all this stuff, it was very generous. Each engine is very unique and I can't wait to get working on them.
I agree with the generosity bit. Good on ya, Lyndon! They were remarkably clean, and an interesting assortment.
Did you run both guages simultaneously, or migrate from one to the other?
@@77thTrombone I mainly run HO, only have a handful of N scale stuff.
@@alcopower5710 Yes, I agree - that was DAMNED NICE of you!!!!
The "Cotton Belt" was the nickname of the ST Louis Southwestern Railway. This railroad was purchased by the Southern Pacific and run as a subsidiary in 1932. In 1992, it was finally folded into the parent company, which itself merged with the Union Pacific in 1996.
This is why "Cotton Belt" locos received the same paint scheme as Southern Pacific locos.
And although it may seem odd, in this case...Cotton Belt 8322 and Southern Pacific 8322 are the very same loco, with CB 8322 being repainted as SP 8322 after 1992.
Rio Grande 5401 is ALSO an SD40-T2 loco, and is now in the Colorado Railroad Museum awaiting restoration.
You'll notice that D&RGW 5401 loco has a short nose? That's because all 72 of D&RGW SD40-T2 locos were short nosed. All of the SP and CB locos of this type has long noses, which held the radio control equipment.
The yellow Rio Grande" (D&RGW) loco that looks rather odd - that you've never seen before? That is a model of a Krauss-Maffai ML-4000. Only 20 ever made it to the U.S., and the D&RGW owned three. And your model is either an AHM, a Rivarossi, or a brass version from Overland Models.
Cotton Belt did have 20 locomotives that weren't painted in a SP scheme at first but eventually repainted in Black Widow. They were FT ABBA units with drawbars instead of couplers in Yellow and Grey #900, 905, 910, 915, & 920. They were also renumbered after having their drawbars replaced with couplers. Didn't know if you knew that.😉
@@TheTrainFreak Nope...didn't know that one. Thanks - that's one more piece of trivia I can store in the "trivial s**t" section of my brain!
@@antonbruce1241 lol your welcome!
I see, thanks for sharing.
For some reason I was thinking the yellow one was an aerotrain, but then I know Rio Grande didn't run an aerotrain. Only two were built and they were rented to various railways, the first set was rented to the PRR and run between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh until June 1957, the second set was rented to ATSF and run between Los Angeles and San Diego, then to NYC and run between Chicago and Detroit, and finally to the Union Pacific and run between Los Angeles and Las Vegas, the first set joined this one after the PRR stopped using it, but only until Oct. of 1957. In Oct. of 1958, both sets were sold at discount to the Rock Island line, which designated them numbers 2 and 3 using them in commuter service between Chicago and Joliet until 1966. The National Railroad Museum in Green Bay, has number 2 and The Museum of Transportation in Kirkwood, Missouri has number 3 and each also have two coaches. I never knew this Krauss-Maffai ML-4000 existed, thanks for showing me something I didn't know.
As a kid in the late 1960s, I remember the Krauss-Maffei engines running through the Sacramento Valley. They had this horrific screaming sound coming from them, like a bearing about to go out. SP ran them in the valley because they would overheat and lose traction going up to Donner Summit. SP sold a few to Rio Grande.
3 SD40T-2s in all 3 schemes? You are lucky!
Hi Harrison, the Southern Pacific, Cotton Belt, and the first Rio Grande locos are all SD40T-2 which were tunnel motors..
St. Louis Southwestern (Cotton Belt) was a subsidiary company of the SP but had their own governing Board of Trustees and supervisors basically operating as its own company until 1992 when the SP fully acquired them. I grew up along the Cotton Belt and had several family members who worked for them. The 2nd Rio Grande unit is a Krauss Maffei which are German Prototypes. Southern Pacific had a few of those too. I hope that info helps! I run Cotton Belt and SP on my layout. - Jason
The Cotton Belt Route (St. Louis Southwester) was a subsidiary of the Southern Pacific, with the Texas & New Orleans & the other Rio Grande locomotive is a Krauss Maffei locomotive built for the SP and some were leased to the D&RGW & NYC, only one is preserved, Southern Pacific 9010, at the Niles Canyon Railway.
Hi Harrison. I just want to say that seeing that N scale Mikado with the passenger cars brought back a lot of memories of running N scale trains with my uncle. He passed away a few years ago and I miss him. But I'll have all the memories I had with him. Thank you so much. Stay safe.
Harrison my friend you have a RARE GEM RIGHT THERE THOSE ARE THE RIO GRANDE KRAUSS MAFFEI ML-4000
I'm excited to work on it.
AHM Rivarossi model. Ball bearing motor. Smooth running rear truck drive. Came with a non-powered "dummy".
The "strange" engine is not a diesel electric, its a diesel hydraulic.
The West German company Krauss-Maffei manufactured them. Southern Pacific was their only North American customer. The locos were labor intensive, in part because they were unique in America. They were all scrapped after an unusually short service life. Trains magazine had a piece on them a few years ago.
It's a Krauss-Maffei ML 4000 The real engines were Built in Germany for the Rio Grande and Southern Pacific railroads
@@georgeadams1853 incorrect one survives in california
@@TrainsOfTheSouthWest123 Yes, at Niles, but it's not the same nose. It was an SP "photo car".
It's even more unusual than I thought.
An interesting note on the Japanese 2-8-2: The first locomotive of that wheel arrangement was built for Japan in the 1890s. That's how the type received the name Mikado.
These steam locomotives by Kato have the best detail among the class and run very well, thanks to being manufactured in Japan.
@@TechBuild my first n scale locomotive is a Kato UP 844 and i gotta say the details are incredible to the point im afraid ive spoiled myself lol
@@Full_Otto_Bismarck Although my wife might disagree, all I have to say is that when it comes to trains, there is no such thing as "spoiling yourself".
@@antonbruce1241 Oh for sure, I'm already looking for more locomotives and rolling stock to add to the collection. My hat off you to married fellas who are part of this hobby, it can't be easy sometimes considering the money involved.
@@Full_Otto_Bismarck No, it isn't easy, especially when you have 10 grandchildren!!! And if you're looking for HO - I have TONS of it I'm trying to get rid of! Moving to 'N' scale to conserve space. I can email you a list if you want it.
That strange rio grande locomotive is a diesel hydraulic engine, high iron did a cool documentary about it if you want to know the history on it
I will have to have a look at that at some point.
ITS A KRAUSS MAFFEI
the yellow Rio Grande engine is a Krause Maffie, they were diesel hydaulic. SP had a couple of them, i believe as an experiment.
They lent some two rio grand and one to the Delaware and Hudson
Interesting.
no its krauss maffei do you not understand even basic german pronouciation
@@IndustrialParrot2816 i am German, but I don't speak it or spell it enough to get every thing right
LUCKY! I've been looking for one of those Krauss-Maffei ML-4000 for so long. Another great video. Keep up the great work Harrison.
Awesome Krauss mafflei and awesome lot
The (reporting mark ), known by its nickname of or simply , is a former US class I railroad which operated between St. Louis, MIssouri, and various points in the states of Arkansas, Tennessee, Louisiana and Texas from 1891 to 1980. In 1980 the Cotton Belt began operating the Rock Island's Golden State Route which added the states of Kansas, Oklahoma ans New Mexico to the operation. It operated as a Southern Pacific subsidiary from 1932 until the operation of the Cotton Belt was assumed by Southern Pacific Transportation Company in 1992.
Nice haul. The DRGW tunnel motor is from Athearn’s ready-to-roll line, so it did come with the extra details from the factory. Cotton Belt (St. Louis Southwestern) also known as “SSW”
was part of the SP system. Even after DRGW purchased SP they continued to letter units from each order for SSW alongside SP. many other railroads during that period had subsidiary lines as well, Missouri Pacific had C&EI for example which shared the same paint scheme as MP. One of my older modeler friends used those Rivarossi KM body shells as the basis for superdetail projects of the SP Krause Maffei units and installed Athearn drives under them.
SMT, The SP, or Southern Pacific, owned 2 subsidiaries: TM&O and SSW (Cotton Belt). The SSW was folded in 1992 and SP was merged into the UP in 1996.
The locomotive is an SD40T-2, rather common out in the California Tehachapi's and Cajon Pass, usually pulling a train of "oil cans" (tank cars) or some other commodity like TOFC trains or Coal trains. Other railroads like the DRGW had many. If you ever worked or saw an SP or DRGW locomotive back then, they would never be clean. The reason for it never being clean is a result of being in a tunnel and smoke accumulating on the engine. SP DID try to merge with the ATSF in 1983, but failed. In result, the DRGW bought the SP and ran it as the SP.
The Southern Pacific had a division that was called the Cotton Belt, so yes you are correct. I got a similar sp engine but it was a GE U33 engine, and i got it for 35 bucks. Thanks for getting me into the hobby more and recommending Athearn Bluebox locomotives! Thank you SMT Mainline!
The steam locomotive was great, I also have an N-scale C62 locomotive from Kato. Its detailing is amazing and it manages to run quite smoothly.
SMT - SSW (cotton belt) was a SP subsidiary, hence the same paint. The SSW stood for St Louis Southwestern and their freight depot still stands on the STL riverfront
It's a very strange looking depot too
They were used on the tehachapi loop when I was young , I asked my grandfather about them , he said " they didnt work out"
Awesome! That Rio Grande ML4000 locomotives are rare, they were made in Germany by Krauss-Maffei!
@SMT: The Rio Grande RTR is DDC-Ready in case you want to put a chip in it :-)
Alright, so the first three HO diesels are SD40T-2s, aka tunnel motors (engines built for better operations in tunnels) and the Rio Grande loco is a cab unit Krauss-Maffei ML-4000 class locomotive, which was built in Germany, and one example survived into preservation (SP 9010)
Edit: the N scale steam engine looks like a JNR D51 class mikado (2-8-2)
Krauss Maffei Ml4000, built in germany, imported to the U.S.A, used on the DRGW and Southern pacific as at the time they couldn't find anything else that could meet there desire for powerful engines. These had 3500hp when even the largest locomotives only had about 2500hp. Later Diesel Electric technology caught up, as well as the costs of having to constantly ship parts over from germany. So these basically remain the largest kraus maffei locos ever imported into the states. Surprisingly there were 21 of these made, so they weren't that common, but more common than you'd think they'd be.
another great unboxing, can't wait to see the Rio Grande run during a stream, looks like a great hauler.
That Rio grand one is a unit built by Krauss Maffei, I'm pretty sure it was Hydraulic diesel I think..
There's actually one that pulls excursion trains at the Niles Canyon Railway in California still. SP and Rio Grande only ran them for a very short time before retiring them.
yes built in deutschland
I own a KATO Burlington Nebraska Zephyr set and it also lights up as well! So I am super happy to see you also like KATO!
The Rio Grande locomotive is an Athearn Ready to Roll but the Southern Pacific and the Cotton Belt locomotives were Athearn Blue box so they didn't have the see through screens.
The Cotton Belts/Rio Grande are SD45T-2 "Tunnel Motors". The grills along the bottom rear were for sucking in cooler air while the units were in the long tunnels of the railroads.
SD40T-2, not SD45T-2.
Great video Harrison! I'm just curious because I don't remember, what are your radius of your curves. I just got a 2-10-4, but only have 18 inch radius curves. I would like to know so later on down the line I have the right radius at a minimum to run a big boy. Again, great video!
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I love those sd40t-2s. Cool locos!
Those are SD45s
Thanks for another great video SMT👍
The last Rio Geande locomotive you unwrapped in Rio Geande Aspen Gold was a model of a diesel hydrolic locomotive manufactured by Krauss Maffei in Germany. The Rio Geande and Southern Pacific bought several of these as experamenal units to see how they would perform. In the
mountainous terrain they both operated in. The Rio Geande wasn't wasn't too impressed with their performance, and sold their units to Southern Pacific. I don't know how long S.P. operated them.
Your second Rio Grande is a Krauss-Maffei ML 4000, a diesel hydraulic.
Yes the SD40T-2s! I have a 8326 with tons of detail! Also, I’m going to a train shop tomorrow.
8:10 that's a Japanese National Railways Class D51 Mikado; the coaches are Japanese too, by the looks of it. These locomotives were built by several different companies across Japan, including modern companies we know and love today, including Mitsubishi, Kawasaki, and Hitachi. Kato produces a lot of models for the Japanese market because it's a Japanese company, and this is one of them!
Cotton Belt was bought out by Union Pacific in the 1980s and the were painted the same as the southern pacific units but they ran around where I live and my grandpa is making a cotton belt layout
The first three locomotives are sd40t-2 a modified version of The sd40-2
Cotton Belt Was Swallowed Into SP During That Huge Merger Phase Railroads Were Going Through. They Also Loaned A Few Engines To SP During Their Days.
Fun Fact:819 Was One Of These Loaned Engines & Was Classified As A Daylight Locomotive Making It The 3rd Daylight Loco In Preservation.
The Rio Grande locomotive with the unique design is a Krauss-Maffei ML-4000 which was made by the German company Krauss-Maffei from 1961 - 1969. Southern Pacific had some of the same locomotives but with a different design.
wow thats awesome! they are Very unique. i honestly never seen the steamer like that or the yellow diesel . very nice
That’s a great present, I enjoyed the unwrapping and testing. Have fun with the next steps - checking and maintenance. Hope to see the diesel hydraulic running again soon
And btw cotton belt was another division of them and they are also the both sd40t-2
Nice set H. After a Rio myself. Love the history behind Rio and Santa fe. Crazy.
Wikipedia says: The St. Louis Southwestern Railway Company (reporting mark SSW), known by its nickname of "The Cotton Belt Route" or simply "Cotton Belt", is a former US Class I railroad which operated between St. Louis, Missouri, and various points in the states of Arkansas, Tennessee, Louisiana, and Texas from 1891 to 1980. In 1980 the Cotton Belt began operating the Rock Island's Golden State Route which added the states of Kansas, Oklahoma, and New Mexico to the operation. It operated as a Southern Pacific subsidiary from 1932 until the operation of the Cotton Belt was assumed by Southern Pacific Transportation Company in 1992.
The other yellow Rio Grande is a Krauss-Maffei hydraulic drive locomotive.
Thanks for sharing.
Nice lot of locos the first 3 are all sd40t-2s and fun fact the southern pacific railroad was the successor of the cotton belt railroad compony the N scale stuff looks pretty cool as well.
The Rivarossi is a Krause Maffei ML4000. The Rio Grande and Southern Pacific bought six of them. Three for the SP, and 3 for the Grande. They were of German manufacture, and had a hydrolic transmission...the Rio Grande could not get them to breathe in the high altitude....they ended up selling their three to the SP.
cotton belt was a subsidiary of sp until the merger with union pacific in 1996. i still see Ex-SSW SD60s hauling locals in my area. ssw was cotton belt's reporting mark
Wow Harrison that was an awesome gift and all three diesel’s are Long noses I seen some just like those on my favorite railroad and I hope you have an awesome day
the kato steam engine is i think a d52 class also from japan
“That’s the strangest train I’ve ever seen”
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Haha
@@heyitshuttz3705 I thought I heard steel drums....
Those are some neat models! I especially like the Rio Grande loco, looks like a custom job.
The yellow loco is a Krauss-Maffei ML4000 diesel hydraulic used on the Southern Pacific in the 60s. There's more information of Wiki.
Another good sight is Railways of the World
Phil, Bklyn
I had a similar deal here in December, I sold an early blue box SP someone custom painted and detailed and put see through screens in, and then I looked at a newer Athearn R-T-R SD40T-2 I picked up from the same guy and at some point Athearn retooled these to come with the see through screens from the factory. You should find that one has a PC board with 9-pin DCC plug inside.
The Krause-Maffei has a couple of versions too, the most common one was imported by AHM but later on they were sold branded Rivarossi also. The drive shares parts with their E8, vertical armature 3 pole motor drives axles in one truck. The real engines were made in Germany, imported to the US in the early 1960s to test, but they were not successful. Rio Grande even sold theirs to Southern Pacific after a few years. There was also a hood unit style version and the only one to survive today is that type, it's been restored and is operable. Each one has two diesel engines inside and as some others said they are a diesel-hydraulic, using a hydraulic system to turn the wheels instead of a generator and traction motors.
I've been wanting one of those Japanese steam engines for my little N Japan collection but haven't wanted to spring the price those usually sell for. Japanese trains are interesting because there's a mix of features of European and American influences.
That was super generous there, easily $300 US if you were going to sell it. The K-M used to be pretty hot on eBay but I haven't had one in a few years to try to sell. A lot of that stuff seems to go in cycles, it's hot for a while, then everyone who wants one gets one and the prices drop off again. I've been flipping trains for over 20 years to cover what it costs me to get the ones I want, so I usually keep better track of what things sell for.
The Cotton Belt was a subsidiary of Southern Pacific. You have two SD40T-2s. The Rio Grande is also an SD40-2. They are called Tunnel Motors.
Thanks for a great video with the highlight being the Krauss Maffei
wow, some very very nice locos. those N gauge ones are super slick!! so generous.
Those SP Cotton Belt and Rio Grande are Tunnel Motors. The back end of the engine have open grills bc of being used in Tunnels. They are still in use by some short line railroads. NYS &W Bessemer and Lake Erie still use Tunnel Motors.
Just another note on the Rio Grande Diesel Hydrolic the Southern Pacific ordered 21 of these engines but the down fall of the engine was tunnels. The long tunnels would burn up the motors bc of poor venting. Thus remember the SP Cotton Belt and Rio Grande Tunnel Motors.
Yeah Riverossi provided some affordable oddballs in plastic. As has been said it was a German manufacturer that tried breaking into the US loco market with their diesel hydraulic locomotive.
IIRC only SP and DRGW picked up on them and despite a lot of the western roads being very open to oddballs at the time they didn't last long IIRC they became hanger queens pretty quick and a totally different drive system sealed their fate Rio Grande's was scrapped IIRC but one of SP's was depowered and converted to a camera car in order to get footage from an engineer's POV for various reasons. Don't hold me to it but I thought I'd heard SP's camera car ended up in a museum.
The N scale is indeed a Japanese prototype and my anime nerd side of me is also thinking oh cool N scale Galaxy Express 999.
The lone survivor is SP9010, which was the cab car that went to the California State Railroad Museum, before being acquired by the group who is currently restoring and rebuilding it. It can be seen at Niles Canyon Railway.
The fourth one you unpacked was a prototype of turbine that was custom built or was a actual prototype by the Rio Grand, because only the UP had working diesel turbines.
I don’t know if you’ve been told before but southern pacific and the cotton belt are from the same company with the exception that the cotton belt ran and in the state of Texas only ! The 2-8-2 is a Japanese mikado ! 🌊🐺
The Rio Grande, SP and Cotton Belt appear to be tunnel motor locomotives. Tunnel motors had exhaust low on rear sides to minimize exhaust build up in the top of the tunnels.
Lucky U bro got some good model trains there one day I hope I'll be getting model trains sent to my door then I'll be so so happy but love the video can't wait for the next one
The second Rio Grande engine that you got there in the package is a Rio Grande Krause Mauffei Diesel Hydraulic locomotive, they were first used for the SP and then the Rio Grande purchased some as well
Great gifts! Holy cow. One of those would have been enough. They barely look second hand.
It's the KRAUSE MAFFIE diesel hydraulic locomotive :: rated at
4000 hp .
The prime mover turn an alternator to produce electricity for cab controls , ect. BUT NOT FOR TRACTION .
After the alternator was a pump that pump hydraulic fluid into a receiving pump mounted in the each truck .
The pump turned a drive shaft with universal joint in between the axles for flexibility of each AXLE ..
U.P. had 3 ALCO's made with the same type of drive .
They were the C-855's
2 cab ( A ) units and #60 =
1 cab less (B) unit #60b
Each unit ran on 4 ---- 2 axle trucks bridged by a span bolster like the 4500 hp turbines ..
ALCO came up with a 3 unit set .
One thing that most people don't know about the C-855 #60 and #61 cab units is that long hood was considered the front .
Almost like an OVERLAND BRASS LOCOMOTIVE MODEL .
The Krauss-Maffei ML-4000 is one of those locomotives that I wish someone like Athearn or Walthers would do. A modern, reliable version that you could pick up for a reasonable price. I'd put streamlined steam locos like the Pennsy T1 and S1 or the diesel M-10001 in there too. If you don't want to spend over $120 on a loco, you're not going to get a quality loco, and the expensive stuff isn't going to get many parents to consider model trains as a hobby for their kids.
Smt is always happy with whatever he gets
Awesome!!!! The three locomotives are GM EMD Tunnel Motors and SP had the ones for SP and Cotton Belt with longer noses for remote control equipment for mid train helpers. =^.^=
The history of the one Rio Grande Tunnel Motor that is at the Rio Grande Museum in Golden Colorado. =^.^= th-cam.com/video/kd_griXKO8c/w-d-xo.html
the KATO brand coches are from the japan's old coches from the days of steam
I don't know why but I would have expected them to look much more different than North American coaches.
That second Rio Grande loco (the yellow one) is a Diesel-Hydraulic locomotive that the Rio Grande purchased from Germany at one point - I don't remember exactly how many that they purchased. Diesel-Hydraulic basically means that the engine is connected directly to the wheels instead of going through a generator and drive motors - I don't know why the inventor(s) chose Diesel-Hydraulic instead of Diesel-Mechanical or something like that. I saw a TH-cam video about them, I think on the channel High Iron.
Only Southern Pacific and the Rio Grande bought the Krauss-Maffei diesel-hydraulics. According to one story, I believe I read in Trains Magazine, when a German technician who worked with the Espee learned that a K-M locomotive had handled a through freight from St. Louis to Los Angeles and back without having its oil changed, he burst into tears. North American practice is different from European!
Quick history on the weird Rio grand loco: SP needs a loco that works good in mountains so the go to Europe and find locos that get there power in a different way so they order the ML-4000 and it works well then Rio grand sees the ML-4000 and orders there own locos.
Great video!
Those atheran ready to run/blueboxes are known as tunnel motors, and the locomotive type for them are SD40T-2
I'd be interested to watch if you do a repair/restoration video later on the Rio Grande locomotive. I picked one up ages ago myself, which has been sitting in my "projects" box ever since. Maybe I could pick up a few pointers for working on it.
I really like the Kato D51 with matching Japanese coaches! I got a Japanese Kato locomotive over the summer for $10 (It had a kitbashed roof and a UP livery)
SMT - The Kadee Chart in my Walther's catalog say the AHM Krauss/Maffei uses #'s 5, 58, 148, or 28.
The Rio Grande one is a german Krauss-Maffei ML-4000 locomotive which were sold to Rio Grande and Southern Pacific once
Christmas came early! Gotta give him a 10 for his method of packing, especially since the package was sent by mail. "You are assigned to #8322 today." "Not to seem like a smart ass, but which #8322?" Those handrails don't like to be used as finger rails. "My deceased husband said, in his will, to give his toys to some other child." Is that a cab or a cockpit on the yellow one? Do what you are supposed to do with electrical devices that don't work. Give it a good whap with your hand.
That unusual Rio Grande locomotive was modeled after a big streamlined loco built in Germany, but used in the U.S., and A.Z.L. (American Z Line) has that kind available in z scale, too!
The Krause Maffei ML-4000 was designed and built by a German company. If you’ve seen the movie The Dirty Dozen... the MONSTER half track they are trying to escape in is built by the same company. In the United States SP and D&RGW were looking for some power that would do the same thing that UP was doing but went kind of in a different direction. Krause Maffei designed the Diesel Hydraulic and it seemed to work well. D&RGW ordered and operated 3 of them...Numbers 4001-4003. SP didn’t approach it as an experiment and had I believe 17 or 18 of them. D&RGW didn’t like them because of mechanical problems and upkeep. They sold their three to SP and the Rivarossi models in SP livery are the D&RGW engines repainted in SP scheme. Some of the SP ML-4000’s were done in a freight scheme rather than the Car Body, so there was some significant difference in some of them. SP ran them for a while but decided that they just weren’t cutting it so they got rid of them. I think there might have been a couple sent to South America. SP kept one and used it as a camera car for quite some time and I believe it may have had an accident orrrrr they may have just retired it. A group in California acquired it and they have it back up in running condition but it’s only running on one motor. Oh yeah I forgot to tell you...it was a double Diesel! But it is one of the freight cab schemes and I believe besides scenic railroad work it is also ... if I’m not wrong... used for freight work along their short line of trackage. That’s what I know about Th ML-4000. I know as a Rivarossi they don’t run real great with those weak motors I wish they would retool them like they did the U25C. I have custom built 3 of them. They are not totally prototypically accurate but they’re not bad. I use an Athearn Blue Box U33C Frame and Trucks and side frames for a base for the Side frames frame the Rivarossi and they have to be Cut. I’ve found that a KATO Motor is the way to go. It’s a lot of work but when they’re done they run quite well and definitely pull better than when they were first built. Anyway... that’s what I’ve got. If you have any questions that I can answer... feel free to ask! Enjoy your show.
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Krauss-Maffei ML- 4000 RIO GRANDE Diesel-Hydraulic Locomotive. 1961-1969.
The Rio Grande had 3 units that they later sold to the Southern Pacific.
Japan rail gauge 1,067 mm (3 ft 6 in) the same gauge that Indonesia use and also the electric train (KRL = Kereta Rangkai Listrik) in Indonesia are from Japan
San Francisco cable cars run on 3'6" gauge track.
Cotton Belt was a subsidiary of Southern Pacific. If you want to know more about the Cotton Belt, you can contact my friend Ed Cooper at the facebook group: St. Louis Southwestern/Cotton Belt Railway. Ed has written the definitive history of the Cotton Belt. The three SP/SLSW/D&RGW locos appear to be SD45T-2. In real life, it is easy to identify the former Rio Grande locos as they have shorter fuel tanks. I know of two ex Rio Grande units still in operation. Both are operated by RJ Corman of Bardstown KY in KY. The Rio Grande is a KM unit. They were diesel hydraulic and Manufactured by KM in Germany. Each had two Maybach 16 cylinder diesel motors under the hood. The prototype Rio Grande KM units were sold to Southern Pacific. None of the "carbody" units are known to survive, but a second run was made for SP with hood units and Alco designed diesel/hydraulic trucks. One is known to exist and operating. You can find photos and video footage of operation on Instagram: nilescanyonrailway
Thanks for sharing some of the history on these models.
Love your vids
I like your vids smt mainline keep up the good work
A 2-8-2 Mikado called a Mike made before the war I love trains like these since the 60's (I'm now in my 70's) 30 years ago a friend died and his wife put a SW-1500
B&O in his coffon
cool wish i had them to.
Love the videos
I can’t believe you got some rio grande stuff
Awesome lot you got there Harrison! The Rio Grande locomotive you have is actually an Athearn ready to roll locomotive, hence the reason for the extra detailing and directional lighting. These locomotives are super easy to add DCC to them, just simply remove the couplers, lift off the body and inside will be to types of DCC plugs, an 8 pin and a 9 pin JST plug. NOTE: regardless of which plug you use to plug a DCC decoder into, you will have to remove BOTH dummy plugs from the circuit board or the locomotive will not function in DCC! I have a pair of KCS SD40T-2s and had to do that with mine. You could also opt for a "board replacement" decoder, if you want to go that route, plus pretty much every DCC manufacturer offers one for these locomotives so finding one should be no problem! Sorry for the rambling explanation on this locomotive, but hope this helps for you or anyone out there that might stumble onto one of these locomotives, take care!
Thanks for sharing this. Maybe I will purchase a decoder for it.
@SMTMainline The black Rio Grande locomotive is most likely an Athearn Genesis model! Those locomotives usually run you about 2 or 3 HUNDRED U.S. Dollars from the factory for DC-only (DCC-ready) models like that one is! You should consider yourself to be very blessed indeed!
that rio grand is crazy good looking!
It`s nice to see the conventional "wave" (DC) transformer layouts these days. They have their appeal for sure. Cheers. - Boomer.
That's a very rare (in the USA) Japanese National Railways D51 which are preserved all over Japan. Definitely nice that they have American whistles.
Wow the Rio Grande loco looks really nice!.
smt are u building a new layout?