@@shadowofhawk55 wtf are you on about killmonger is a sub Sahara African in the movie this is how I know the people who hate this movie only hate it because it based on a positive image of Africa and Africans and not the shity and ignorant ass portrays that the west media always does with Africa with the documentary always talking about the negative things and showing the mud hunts that us Africans can never seem to find in our country😁
@@eniolabakare6839 My point was that Africa's problems are internal as well as external. If he wants to shoot up America for the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade then he should shoot up West Africa for the Saharan Slave Trade.
@@shadowofhawk55 yeah, nah sorry mate it doesn't work that way cause it's Arabic people being horrible to African people and it just doesn't fit the progressive narrative.
@Arran McEvoy nah this black panther one is 100000% spot on… mainly I find he looks over minor stuff like DR Strange being reckless.. he glosses over how he became strange
It’s from the comics, yes I liked this movie, but the core criticisms against this movie are targeted at the fundamental elements that make up the character and wakanda as a whole from the comics, and it’s not like anyone could challenge or the right to be king, the political foundation behind this was that you had to either be the leader of he province or of royal blood, which is what killmonger was, the reason they ultimately settled on ritual combat was because protecting wakanda and the vribranium was their highest priority, all of this was explained in the film, but I get that no one paid that much attention because of the out of control marketing that was done for it
@@silverbullet537 Ok I concede that it is from the comics. But that doesm't really undermine my point. They are still deciding the countries lieder by combat, but he also have to be "of royal blood". What's next, a caste system?
@impeteratorVribranium is wakanda's primary mineral, so whoever is in leadership needs to be a competent combatant in order to make sure it stays protected, and again its not just royal blood who challenges the current king/black panther, it has to be those of royal blood OR those who lead one of the other four provinces that can challenge for the throne, if their leading their perspective province (mining tribe, border tribe, river tribe etc) they've already shown themselves to be politically competent.
I have to say that this review is a great insight into the evolution of the character "The Critical Drinker". The writer was obviously tweaking the character to get him just right and I believe he did a great job for the end result (most of the time in more current reviews he pulls at least a couple of laughs from me). Will Jordan's "The Critical Drinker" has actually gotten me interested in reading his books!
I always found it funny that Wakanda is supposed to be an advanced utopia and yet they still fight with ancient tactics and weapons, and use rhinos in battle.😂
@@StellarAl if they can be hurt by spears i assure you they will die from 5000 degrees of heat, a Shockwave that can blow down cities, the ensuing irradiation of their metal armor, and the fallout
Welcome to Wakanda, the most technologically and intellectually advanced society in the world. We choose our leaders through dynastic inheritance and physical brawls. THAT's how advanced we are!
@@thefilmwatcher1302 That's a charitable explanation to justify a distinctly retrograde plot. The British keep a figurehead monarchy to maintain an aristocratic tradition while having a parliamentary democracy in practice. Wakanada's politics, if we're being honest, are barbaric. In fact, the entire plot rests on it.
Here’s something to think about Wakandan’s watched as the slave trade happened when they could’ve ended it all ... yet they complain about how America has treated African Americans when they did nothing to help for centuries when they’re arguably the only people that could
Perhaps Wakandans were profiting from the capture of folk over the border and selling them to the Americans. This seems like the only plausible reason as to why they didn’t get involved.
@@Wonmanbanned wait, if I remember correctly, americans didn't go to africa and enslave the natives. Most of Europe did that and americans get their slaves there. This is muddy and probably incorrect but americans did not go to africa and enslave the natives. Maybe I'm wrong, just correct me
@@chaosagent_0106 africans sold their rivals to europeans who then sold them to whoever wanted them (including America). Slavery was practiced by nearly every culture on earth including the native americans our woke idiots idolize so much. We learned. Some of us fought full scale wars to end it.
Quick point of personal privilege, we're doing jazz hands now, no more clapping. We have to consider the sensory overload risk for some of our comrades.
@@ifluro Personal point of perception. Jazz is a sophisticated genre only understood by intellectuals. As an imbecile like many in this world, I find jazz very oppressive and condescending to those of lesser intelligence. Please refrain from using the world "jazz".
As a Nigerian, I was not impressed, I couldn't believe some Nigerians were impressed. The costume was horrible, no consistency everyone just wearing many random clothes from different parts of the continent. It just looks like an American thinking about American problems all while making assumptions about a whole continent with hundreds if not thousands of languages and distinct cultures wrote it. They dont even look like they did much research about it. And that ending scene was ridiculous. I don't know why their priority will be to open a community center in some American city. Maybe the film should have been about a hidden American Island inhabited by descendants of escaped American slaves. That will actually make more sense why they care so much about what is happening in America. Also Africa is not a country please.
Regardless of what and how it is presented, we like it and still love how great it is. And it will still be abused greatly as an overrated movie each time we hear it.
Did we watch the same movie? The community centre is significant because that is where T'Challa's uncle was making his plans with the vibranium and where he was killed. Good god...
@@ChristopherMurphy1969 At least the Infinity Stones have specific purpose for each one, so there are some boundaries for each. Vibranium can apparently do nearly anything and everything you need it to do.
OK, just gonna say it: people are afraid to say this movie is not great because they'll be labelled as racists. No, we're not racists, we just like good films. Welcome to 2021, folks...
I also like good films, and I believe black panther is one. just because some dislike the film, is not proof of it being bad.The film has good acting, good cinematography. good music, good wardrobe, good set design, the film is pretty good. I don't believe if you dislike the film you are racist, I do find it questionable though when the people who critique it negatively portray the them of anti-colonialism and slavery as bad in the film and call it wrong and bullshit, when it is an objective truth. Art truthfully addressing the liberation, potential, and struggle of the African people is justifiably good. Welcom to 2021 where art has cultural impact and inspires liberation.
@@2sayntsimeunv-shuda227 are you one of those people who think slavery was invented by, and propagated by white people?(asking because of a few of your comments up above, just wanna see if any further responses are actually worth paying attention too, cause some prior commentors think white people have never been hung, or enslaved, which i find both, hilarious, and almost depressingly sad) also, black panther is alright, but it's not great, not even really good, but that's just cause i don't like politics so hamfistidly shoved down my throat. if it wasn't made the same way captain marvel was, or atleast,w asn't advertised that way, and didn't have the entire main cast, ironically not including the white guy, be racist, i might have enjoyed it more, but i will agree, the music, wardrobe, set desing, and cinematography were good, but it's marvel so thats expected. acting, debatable, it wasn't bad, wasn't good either, for a aaa film, it was about up to par. not as good as some marvel films acting, better than others, about middle ground. so an alright watch, when you take away the massive flaws. problem is that those massive flaws are still there, so it lowers it quite a bit, at least for me, personally,m i don't like movies that try to get you to sympathise with the obviously racist main cast.(not the actors, for clarification) but overall, i'd give it a 3-5 out of ten, i'd have to watch it again to be more precise, but the negatives, few that they are, are big negatives.
@@2sayntsimeunv-shuda227 tbh.. no i can tell you that this kind of movies is just about the fantasy ideology some people have about africa. And i can tell you that its not white people who stop us from devellopment, its ourselves...flash news america also has a past of colonisation but unlike Africa they reunited and went forward. if we always have to put the fault on some one else we will never get "free"and i think this movie was bull too. (from an African leaving in Africa)
@@AltriumGaming The cast racist? You can’t be racist towards white people. And I bet you enjoy actual racism towards poc in other media’s. But colonizer jokes are too far and left?
The last point you make is *precisely* right. This movie got praised to the moon because people were afraid to criticize it…which is frightening as hell. The part that makes me feel dirty is that it’s totally condescending but NOBODY acknowledges that. It’s like a father emphatically saying “good job!” to his three-year-old who’s covered in finger paint and chewing on a crayon. Why isn’t anyone insulted? Why doesn’t anyone recognize this as the insult that it is? If society smiled and said “good job!” at everything I did, it would feel horrible and empty. I would grow bitter and resentful at the fact that I was obviously not being taken seriously…and that’s *exactly* what’s going on here.
This! And this has awful, incredibly harmful implications for black people in the US (and in South Africa as well since they have the same problem) because it's not just entertainment/culture, it extends to general behavior, education, crime etc. The US has at least two generations of black people who have been told 24/7 that they are better than anyone else, can't be responsible for their own actions, are constantly being held back, that everything they do and say is the best while other races would be held accountable, criticized, condemned or mocked for the same things. And as a result, black Americans top all the negative stats by a mile. Crime, STDs, teen pregnancy, abortion, lack of educations, illiteracy, health, jobs, violence, abuse, child abuse and neglect, hell, even racism because when they are racist, that is applauded too. It's hard to express how harmful, condescending and racist this whole mess is. Black Panther is the symptome.
Vlad the guru you are clueless and you are listening to nonsense. Ask your new masters the Chinese what they think of the fake black Africans hard luck stories. 🤣🤣🤣
Same. Now I pretty much start to frown whenever I see anything other than straight white males in a movie because I've started to expect everything else to be a tool for forcing some stupid bullshit down my throat. Equality and diversity in movies used to be just that, instead of this constant dunking on some artificial definition of a bigot, which also covers half of the audience.
Nobody says you have to. We still have a bunch of idiots out there who are free to be assholes whenever they want. People over here acting like victims whenever someone tells them things should be more diverse. Fucking crybabies.
@@BabyRainForest yea. In America, we literally have classes and meetings at our job that preaches to us about diversity. It's in almost every fabric of society now. The choice to avoid this crap is nearly void.
I still can't believe Black Panther got the honor of being the first comic book film to be nominated for Best Picture. What an absolute insult to The Dark Knight and Logan. The movie is above average, at best.
Peter Thế the worst part is that this movie won 3 oscars, I guess it deserved to win costume design but original score and best picture, SMFH, give it a year or two, and the whole world will see how This movie didn’t age well at all
Imagine how much better it would’ve been if Wakanda was an active humanitarian society and the plot was based around Tchalla stopping Klau from uprooting African governments trying to return it to its war torn state because idk HES A FUCKING ARMS DEALER???? It’s almost like the plot writes itself if you give it 4 minutes of thought.
I feel like at Marvel if you’re a writer and you wrote something as clever as that (that’s a good idea btw) one of the higher ups would perform changes so that the themes are barely explored and jokes and CGI battles are put into it… cos NO WAY we’d have a thought provoking plot like that in an MCU movie.
@@firstlast9846 that could’ve easily been the plot for the sequel but right after end game. But of course mcu wasted the blip. And as you said aren’t that thought provoking. Maybe due to Disney and still trying to appeal to younger audiences.
You are forgetting that to write sth like that you'd need writers actually well versed in history, politics and popular culture of specific African countries. I doubt there are a lot of talented African writers in Hollywood and serious research for mcu films seems unpopular. And then there's always the possibility of being accused to paint Africa as the former president once put it. For all the above I think it's unlikely it will ever happen, though it would be a welcome change from this US-centric worldview they're peddling now.
@@SamuelJoseph962 Pretty much if we go by today's logic. Tsk tsk. Oh the irony. Heck the comic itself isn't even culturally accurate. It was created by Stan Lee, who's white, where Wakanda is his own idea of an African futuristic super city.
Watching the movie almost got me nauseated.. The makers took no time out to study Africa and come up with a unique culture that mimics what could be found here.. Instead, they just threw bits and pieces of everything together and made a shitty movie.. No African descendant to the throne is selected by combat.. Black people of America, so desperate to find their roots that they turn to fictional characters created by white people for help.. Pathetic
Diversity Original definition: a variety of people representing many different races, religion and ethnicities. Today's definition: Anything not white Especially not male & white.
(im black) honestly if black panther was black, nobody would like it honestly becuase people think that if its black its good idk why, same thing happend with the spiderman into spider verse
No, Diversity today means that there should only be a blob of nothingness. Everyone without identity, culture, freedom of believe, nation. Nothing to anchor oneself. Just a worker bee that is thought controlled and not able to think for himself.
The diversity is more in terms of the MCU as a universe then Black Panther as a solo movie. If we are talking diversity in Marvel movies, Black Panther is on par with the rest. Except the others have mostly white people with the Occassional black buddy. Black Panther isn't all black people, just mostly black people. Which is great. Nice to see that be the case once in awhile and not "only one black person can exist as the diversity friend". If black panther fails at diversity, so do ALL the Marvel movies. The box office sensation was is less about how good the movie was (it was mediocre) and more proof how starved the black audience is for a semi good action hero occasionally that's not a white dude or Mary Sue super powered white chick. The movie isn't bad at all. The lame parts are no more lame then the other Marvel movies. And it's way better then the boring Captain Marvel. Black Panther's biggest problem is the hype is better than the movie, but it's a good mid tier MCU movie.
"...T’Challa meets up with Shuri, his 15-year-old sister. Shuri is responsible for overseeing all of Wakanda’s technological development. Like, everything. It’d be like if Elon Musk was in charge of all US infrastructure, military development, the space program, Facebook and Family Guy. And he was 15 years old. What the fuck am I watching?!" One of your all-time best quotes.
I've read a few comments defending Wakanda for not being diverse, and being all black. Well, I think most people aren't really criticizing that point per se, but the fact that there's a double standard where places like Asgard (traditionally Germanic/Northern European) get non-white characters these days in Hollywood movies. If you're ok with a black Achilles in a new 'Troy' movie, then you should be ok with a Korean Shaka Zulu in another movie too. If you think one's absurd, then the other must be too. People don't like double standards, and shouldn't be subject to them.
Asgard isn't set to ablidge with the same rules as wakanda since it isn't a planet on Earth, it literally an alien realm, so them appearing to germanic/nordic people and them worshiping them wouldn't take away the possibility of them being diverse in nature, due to them not being bound by the same set of rules, logic. But wakanda being diverse wouldn't make sense at all, like what logic would we use to explain it?
@@LiSe0 What logic? There is no logic, both Asgard and Wakanda are not 'real' as in, not of this earth. But Asgard is set in Germanic mythology. Germanic=North European people. Wakanda is set in Africa. Africa=Usually black Africans. So what I was saying makes sense. But then again, needing everything to be 'diverse' is pretty nonsensical too these days, and I think that is the root of a lot of peoples' gripes.
@@CJ-dw3dr, no, it doesn't make sense, and not amount of Olympic gold medal level of mental gymnastics will work. Wakanda is set in our world. Asgard is completely made up. You're equating "cultural mythology" to "real world location," that being sub-sahara Africa. You're nothing more than the usual "white people are victims" idiot
@@williams268 he's right though wakanda is an isolated never colonized African country obviously it will be only African. Asgard is a magical otherworldly realm sure they where worshipped by nordic people but that might have just been where the bifrost landed there is no reason to believe that they would make the people that look like them worship them
Well Mexicans are Hispanic and part of the white imperial colonist slaver culture, what did you expect? >I am going to add that I was joking here, even though I hate that I have too. The simple fact is that even all those white imperial colonist slaver cultures were made up of the rich slavers >and slave owners as well as the poor and disenfranchised.
Jeremiah Crenshaw You mean it’s the same reason Barack Obama got the Muffukin NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, even though he ordered OVER 193 DRONE STRIKES during his presidency ?? Because he’s Blacker than an Ace of Spades?
As an African (Kenyan) who never bothered to watch Black Panther due to the Hype, I completely agree with you especially on the wierd representation of the supposed African culture, needs or situation needing to be solved or something.
@@mpilombuyazi1411 they just explained why they are commenting and giving the reason for it. That’s what comment sections are for under free speech to share you opinion. Not everyone needs to see the movie some people enjoy watching reviews… to see how good or bad a movie is to decide later if they want to see a movie. Clearly you just want an echo chamber.
@@markmiller6402 well humans by nature naturally crave dominance and superiority over others so this wouldn’t be too far off (minus the fictional advanced technology)
@@markmiller6402He is not 100% right, Nigeria is one example. There are many progressing African countries. If you find internal wars absolutely terrifying, what about western countries infiltrating Africa stealing the resources doing genocides, starting coups, overthrowing revolutionaries to perpetuate chaos. Even though she is faced with all these odds Africa is still progressing.
@@yharnamenjoyer7648 Not true, There are many African countries that are not at war with each other. We not gonna act like Europe did not fight wars lol. And of course Africa has internal wars when it was colonised pillaged and oppressed. Africas evolution is still being interfered with by foreign powers assassinating leaders, suppressing movements and starting coups . And Africa has historically not been too busy to go any where else, the moors ruled in Spain for centuries, the axum empire was seen as one of the world powers and was the first christian kingdom. The Egyptian/kmt kingdom set the foundation of philosophy, science and medicine. So Africa has already given out technology to the world for it is the mother of Humanity.
I'm good with that....we'll have to kill them. They're just giving us justification by putting Stalin, Mao, Lenin or whoever on a pedestal as their model. Easier to shoot them.
incorrectly phrased. Progressivism is about economic and foreign policy reform. The rest (which is what you are referring to) might be called along the lines of "liberal identity bullshit" used by corporatists to fleece everyone of their money. But i understand the mix up. Everyone throws around every term these days thinking they have a deeply insightful and correct definition, but they just have their heads up their arse. Anyway using "terms or definitions" to communicate is an obfuscating pretense at "imma smaaart". Go away now....
@@Hydrogenblonde While it does appear ambiguous, i meant to infer that Critical Drinkers phrasing was incorrect...however .... you have repeated the mis-phrasing, and as we all know, that is punishable by forced, binge drinking the cheapest whiskey until you soil yourself.
I hate Black Panther as a movie, it was a convoluted piece of crap. And why is everyone acting like he's the first black super hero when Wesley Snipes done it way better as Blade, 20 years ago!
As an African, black panther and marvel were doing their best to Africanise American black culture basically using African tribal culture and symbols all over the movie without any real consistency or explanation about what it means. It's something I've seen Americans do when they try to look African, basically wear as much colourful shit and not expect people to ask them questions. At first I liked the movie then I realised what most of the action scenes were just a distraction from a poor writing like most avenger movies. Black americans don't care about Africans unless it's in vouge or when they keep talking about going back to the motherland as if they'll just move one day and leave everything to live in Africa, and because of that I found it comical that all of a sudden this movie was being used as a "let's all unite against our colonisers" type bs. Because it was basically a movie where the whole cast was black, nobody was "allowed" to criticise the movie in fear of being labelled racist even if their criticisms were justified and warranted. Its just like captain marvel she's a average actor at best but also allows her politics to affect how the movie, and any criticism is labelled sexist etc
Someone once asked me what I thought about Black Panther and I simply said "it was alright I guess" then they immediately got aggressive and said "oh because it wasn't *WHITE* Panther it would have been better?" I was just like wtf??? It's sad how so many people I heard that automatically assume you're racist just because you didn't like another mediocre marvel film.
Had to deal with a slightly less aggressively worded version of that conversation a couple of times. It was a mediocre movie driven by nonsensical plot contrivances. That's an entirely valid observation and the movie being full of people of a certain skin color doesn't change that.
I could forgive the film for that if it weren't for the "magical BS." lol seriously, vibranium may as well just allow someone to instantly create a death star. So over used and terribly written as a concept!
Politics aside. How dare you have a valid criticism of the movie that isn't putting down black people for being brainless idiots as a community or calling white people racist for thinking it's anything less then brilliant.
I was actually accused of racism at my job when i was asked by a customer if i was going to go see it and i said no. Less than an hour later i was in the managers office being given the riot act, i worked at Walmart at the time.
😂😂😂😂people don't realize that forcing someone to like something associated with black people is racism. You still forcing colour on people I'm 100% black by the way
Joe Hand not really... he called blasters uncivilized, the one instance he used one. Whereas in Black Panther the lead female called guns primitive while she herself used a weapon far more primitive, continuously
@NutritionFacts1979 name the character "hacked to pieces". All the deaths you see with those laser swords are clean, a single slice or puncture with little to no blood shed. General Grievous took more than a couple, he went down like Tony Montana.
@BeetleMan1979 The idea is that killing somebody with martial arts and melee weaponry is a test of strength, skill, and training, whereas killing somebody with a gun requires minimal training. The jedi-culture is a martial culture that values warrior ideals, despite being largely pacifistic in its goals. It's only understandable that in this kind of culture, a gun is seen as less civilized, despite the fact that, of course, killing a person is not exactly what we westerners would call "civil". For the Wakanda woman, the spear is exactly the same thing. It's a symbolic weapon of martial prowess and disciplined fighting, whereas guns are "easy" to use. I don't find this concept to be strange at all. It's just based on a different conception of civility.
On the point of "Guns are uncivilized": Guns = Pull a Trigger and a brute blast comes at full force. Made to kill quick, regardless of the user's skill or commitment. Melee Weapons = from ancient times exists the concept of them being a extension of the user, and that the fight style shows how noble the user is. And is supposed to be able to be used for defense too, not just kill. Ideas that Jedi seem to Believe and put to pratice.
Interesting you say that. I’m ethnic but not black. I found the whole thing racist. Kind of suggesting that the one country in Africa that became civilised and advanced was by the lucky strike of a vibranium meteorite... whilst the rest of the surrounding areas were still stuck in tribalism and were backwards. That’s why I really didn’t like it. And Michael B’s character was to want to bring more violence to oppressed black people around the world which kind of misses the whole anti violence/gang movement and the achievements of black people despite oppression through the years.
@@RS-do1of I've said it's patronising many times and could actually be trolling because of the similarities with reality. Michael's character contradicts himself throughout the whole movie and just flips his talking points whenever he's challenged. It's a piss take of black people and they don't see it. Also what the heck is "ethnic"? Do you just mean not white.
@@sneetchyboy9390 Well his point isn't aiming at that one scene, that is only a small part of a bigger picture. He is pointing to the centuries of the Atlantic slave trade and the centuries way before when even their people enslaved one another. They isolated themselves off from the rest of the world and just watched on the sidelines as everyone tore themselves apart. While they only focused on themselves and didnt share their resources while they could've helped those less fortunate. Again that scene is only a small part to the wider story.
Boi Johnny Boy wakanda is east african and most of the Atlantic slave trade was west african and far away, not mention they isolated there country and hid there powers
@@sneetchyboy9390 ok that's a fair point about the atlantic slave trade. But there was also the slave trade into the middle east and Africans still enslaved one another. It's good that they finally changed from an isolationist nation, but we can't ignore the centuries where they just sat on the sidelines and watched. Especially when they show us in the intro of the movie how they watched the world tear itself apart. I can respect your own view on the matter though.
Man, why didn't I find this 2 years ago when I thought I was the only non-insane person on the planet. It wasn't TERRIBLE, but if it weren't for the factor that everybody REALLY was raving about, it was a thoroughly mediocre superhero movie with a limp ineffective hero who was easily outcharisma'd by the bad guy.
Agreed, I knew it was overblown before I ever touched it lol. I still stayed cautiously optimistic but once they started saying it was worthy of best picture I knew it was gonna fall short. Its not even top 10 Super Hero movies imo, its good I guess but doesn't stand out in any way. My best friend is black and said he was disappointed after all the hype lol.
Gee - it's almost as if this movie wasn't good and was only pushed as part of some sort of agenda. I wonder what the obvious political message it is that they're shoving down everyone's throats?....
@@jaidendarwins8398 Seen as what junk Marvel produces, it definitely is in some top 10 or 15. To be honest, Black Panther is a bloody masterpiece next to Aquaman, but I guess that was DC..? And I think Black Panther was more fun then many of the recent Marvel movies, so I guess that compared to other Marvel or superhero movies, BP is a very good movie! Compared to actual good movies it doesn't really hold up, but that goes for most of Marvel.
BP is one of the most overrated films in history. I think most people know this, but they weren't allowed to say that - not even to themselves - without being accused of racism. Ironically, the hype over BP did a major disservice to black actors like Wesley Snipes, Sidney Poitier, Woody Strode, and others by pretending that the great fictional heroes/superheroes they portrayed never existed. I remember people whom I knew at the time saying, "It's about time we get a black superhero!" When I told them about Luke Cage, Blade, Shaft, and others, their response was either indifference or hostility. That immediately told me that people were not allowed to express anything but praise for this movie.
While you mentioned Shaft, there's also Samuel Jackson literally being Nick Fury. To me it was wasted they didn't do a solo film after Avengers1 or so, but I do love his inclusion in "Captain America: Winter Soldier." However we also had an awesome trilogy with Wesley Snipes as Blade being absolutely awesome, nailing the role. Also you know what. Black Panther had that entire final fight scene looking all rubbery and poor without using motion capture and some real people for parts, etc. Blade II did this with CGI in a fight scene that lasted way, way shorter and we basically didn't see it again at all for the rest of 2 nor in 3 at all. Nevermind that "Winter Soldier" came out first and thus we had Sam Wilson as The Falcon. Side role? Yes? Still a black superhero. Suprised they haven't already went nuts with "first black woman superhero" (cause photon didn't happen in wandavision, or DC's multiple time efforts lol).
@@mpilombuyazi1411 media acts like we're supposed to like this movie. What don't you understand about consuming media and commenting on it regardless of if it's good or bad?
As a black man, I'm glad someone finally has the balls to put this movie through the wringer. It's 2022 and everyone, rightfully, seems to have forgotten the movie.
@@curismo5526 Well, just to put it in perspective for you, Black Panther was the highest rated movie on IMDB for quite sometime, beating out movies like Shawshank Redemption, LotR Trilogy, and the Godfather. Now it's not even in the top 250.
Thought I was the only black man that thought this film was a CHORE to sit through. I did it for the culture but the movie was terrible. I understand why critics tip toe around it but it was a dull film.
except that others have literally made the same metaphor countless times since the film death of stalin has been shown on tv Very Recently,for days on end,.. which is a Comedy Btw.., i agree that this is an Over Rated Film, But Cpt Marvel To me may be the Most Over rated, and Un Warranted MCU film ever,..
It's true, that thing that's nothing like that other thing is just like that other thing, because I'm a conservative tool and everything I don't like is communism
Analgoy, simile, metaphor... whichever floats your boat. Personally, I'm never too bothered about semantics, especially when commenting on TH-cam lol. But I'm glad you agree Jason Strom. Too many movies these days are, let's be honest, full of s**t. Uh oh - all of a sudden I'm getting The Last Jedi flashbacks lol 😁
@@ScotisticDad they do but most the people living in each area have there own accent. They don't all have different accents. The majority would have the same accent with a few other dialects throw in from people who have moved from other parts of the country. Within one city the accents would be closer.
Here's a hilarious bit of irony: Did you know that none of this movie was filmed in Africa? No joke, *not one shot* of this movie was filmed in Africa. The only time the production team traveled abroad was to go to London and South Korea. That's it. As a result, Africa never saw a single cent of the money made from this movie. And I'm sure there are a large number of impoverished African tribes who would've greatly appreciated a cut of that cheddar. Oh, the delicious irony.
All through I do not like the people who made the movie but, I do not think they need the money. We already throw a shit ton of money at Africa and yet the place is still the same. Then again, it might make a difference I don't know.
I remember laughing my ass off at the ending. When T’Challa realized he has to help young black kids or whatever, the first thing he does is reveal himself to young African Americans in a sort of ghetto in NY or something. Bruh 😂. Are you sure they’re the most helpless black kids in the world? How about those that literally live on your continent and aren’t in the most powerful country in the world already? I’m not gonna lie. I really enjoyed the movie when it first came out. But as time went on, I started seeing its clear motive. And it wasn’t to deliver a great marvel product with good plot and fights. No. It was clearly targeting a whole race for box office money. I wanted to compare it a little to Shang-Chi, but no that one was just bad execution and not exciting. Shoutout to the actors though. Their performance is literally the only thing saving the movies.
Lol, I know. I just watched an ad for starving children in threadbare clothes from somewhere or another. I can't help but think of the slaves in African from the first part of the BP movie. Like squashing slavery on your own continent wasn't first priority.
I never noticed black and white hero differences until the media started rambling about race. (Edit: I mean, I do know if a hero black or white, but it didn't really matter to me because skin color means nothing. Character and integrity does.)
I’ve only started following CD in the last couple months. This is the oldest video I’ve watched of him. He’s quite a bit more restrained in this. The same critical eye, but less bombastic. It makes me appreciate the persona he’s created even more!
100% Correct, vastly overrated. What makes me laugh, is how everyone in the black community was shouting about the 1st black marvel super hero movie but I didnt hear that sort of noise from the black community, when Blade was first released!, who was the real first black marvel super hero movie and Blade is a much better film than black panther.
@@tnbn55 Bottom line is, Blade is a Marvel character, licensed to New Line as Marvel didnt have a movie studio then. Blade was a massive commercial success with a Black actor in the lead role and the Black community weren't shouting about a black anti hero / Super hero in a lead role. Blade is still a far better film than Black Panther. 😎
Drinker before Captain Marvel: Thanks for your time, and have a great day. Drinker after Captain Marvel: This is all I've got for today... Go away now!
@Rodzilla If you see a problem with a political analogy being used on a movie that is pushing global politics, then you might have the intelligence of a Liberal.
Rodzilla I appreciate you pointing out the hypocrisy of that man you are totally right a bunch of victims this movie isn’t even that political I guarantee if it wouldn’t have been successful he would have praised this thanks again for being reasonably I told a individual that avatar is probably the most overrated movie ever it’s dancing with wolves in space and he said I was racist like I never knew white guys were this threatened buy black peoples it’s has open my eyes to we have to keep the pressure on them because they are incapable of doing the right thing own there own
Captain Marvel was not overrated.The movie was mostly known as the 3rd worst mcu movie(Thor:the dark world & the incredible hulk) for how painfully average it is.It could have been a better film.Hopefully black widow and all other female MCU movies are better films than this.
Honestly I loved the movie when I first saw it in theatres but me and my girlfriend at the time rewatched it when it came to Netflix and I realized how bad the movie was. I think the hype of seeing a black panther movie in theatre drowned out how bad the movie was and I was just happy to see it but after seating down and actually taking my time to focus on the movie I saw all of the flaws in it and it just wasn't me, my ex did as well and a few of my friends. Black Panther was just a hype movie that played on Black and African culture to get a reaction but when you look passed that you can see the flaws and lazy writing in the movie. And being a Nigerian I can tell you alot of the languages and clothes they were wearing were BS.
I can imagine on one of STALIN's moodier days, he wished he could just execute all the sycophants for their spinless, characterless ideology of himself out of sheer boredom in a land of compliant yes men.
He basically explained in 8mins about this movie what I’ve been trying to explain to explain about it for the last 3yrs. This movie was highly capable of standing on it’s own two feet. There was no need to use the oppressed and black card
@@smileymomod.4311 I mean you can't change the past.The thing is the movie shows white people as colonizers and wanting revenge.You have to get you priorities straight ,choose you want equality and unity or seperation.Being stuck in the past and whining will do nothing good.
Exactly.. The Academy Awards have been slowly dying for years now.. and recently Hollywood forcefully took the Golden Globes along with it down the 'merit's overrated' road.
No they aren't. You see the Media only reports black news, black incidents with police, so Hollywood jumped on the OTHER me too train and began kissing A** at the behest of the rest of us that clearly see it... and look at it like do they think we are too stupid to notice the false on boarding?
"Progressive politics is the Joseph Stalin of our times, and everyone's so terrified of attracting its anger that they just kind of go along with the crowd and keep clapping. Because it's easier to clap until your hands are red raw than be the one who dares to sit down first." Very well put sir.
"everyone is so terrified of attracting it's anger that they just kinda go along with the crowd and keep clapping". Which is exactly what progressive politics depends on. Also, I think this comment is even better with the R. Lee Ermee picture.
I remember reading a comment on TH-cam, a good while before black panther was released. It was from an African guy. He said he hates the idea of the film because it reinforced a 'big man / tribal' culture, which in his mind was the cause of too many problems in Africa. Too many people looking for the big man to follow, with the big man naturally not being a nice guy, hence lots of conflict and the propensity for dictators. I wish I could have saved it, his words were more succinct. Anyway, black panther jumped right on it, the two big men fight it out to decides who is king, everyone else can either do as they're told or fight the big man to the death. I don't exactly see how this film is a love letter to African culture (not that there's a single binding culture in Africa), seems more of a slap in the face.
It's not really about african culture, though. Just americans projecting their own problems on the screen, using wakanda as some sort of "in africa things are better" -example, while the truth is vast majority of africa has things way worse than oakland.
It's difficult though because African/African american culture is so miniscule that you'd have to combine the few things they have to make a somewhat meaty movie.
I remember reading a comment from someone who claimed to be African. He said Africans don't consider all blacks African. It makes sense actually, since Africa is a place and not an ethnicity.
@@810wasaninsidejob9 - That wouldn't surprise me. I expect that given the chance, a majority of the whole African continent would happily swap places and be grateful to call themselves simply, 'American', for the rest of their lives. Must seem a bit insulting to have people from the most prosperous nation on earth, claim kinship with some of the poorest, yet never have the slightest chance of encountering their problems.
Yea anyone who believes this has anything to do with African people all believe in bullshit lies. It's only about "African" Americans and trying to make some sjw agenda for some people in that group to feel better about their heritage or representation in media or some other stupid media-made up reason. It does nothing for the people living in Africa, it does nothing for the people who actually suffer from discrimination, and it does nothing for people who just want to watch a great movie. I said it right after watching it in its launch period, that I found it to be a fine superhero movie but nothing more - and people would shit all over youtube comments and praise it to the sky and anyone who didn't believe it was the marvel of modern cinema history were fools!! I hate using the term "sheep" because it's done to death with very shallow opinions, but in this case I will make an exception. Most people are total sheep when it comes to Hollywood and anything mass-media related.
I always thought Black Panther was definitely a solid MCU entry; I liked the movie about as much as all the other MCU films. The problem I have is when people insist that its the best MCU film of all time and that Killmonger is the only MCU villain you feel 'sympathy' for. (*ahem* Nebula, Zemo, Loki) Reason being, they almost point out that the reason this film is the best boils down to: Black Director + all Black Cast. I think I speak for most here when I say that most reasonable decent humans today don't see anything wrong with an all-black cast. The issue is when you rely on that tokenized diversity to claim that your film is so great, and by proxy anyone who points out its flaws as a racist. Black Panther was a GREAT film. But not the best. I'd give that to Infinity War. And of course, RIP Chadwick the GOAT
How is an all black cast ANY sort of "diversity", tokenized or not? People in modern America simply don't know the meanings of words. The education system is designed to make them dumb, and it succeeds.
Nah. Black Panther was a mediocre film. It was flashy it was entertaining, but it lacked substance, was incredibly racist (I'm not even white, I'm brown, and I was uncomfortable about all the racist shit they said towards white people in this movie, not to mention the monotone representation of Africa, a goddamn Continent!!).
I've been reading movie critics for around 25 years. Film criticism was one of the first things I read regularly after learning to read. I agree with this vid. Never have I read so many fake movie reviews in my life as I did when black panther came out. Thanks for the Stalin analogy. It really is true. Thanks for being a movie critic without an ax to grind, and for your general courage in confronting our crappy culture in this arena.
In many ways I do agree the hype was forced and the praise did not match the product. But it did do a couple things better than the average mcu movie. Doesn’t make it anywhere near a masterpiece but it did feel like they gave more of an effort to make a workable fantasy movie than say Age of Ultron or Ant Man 2.
@@carlonilo9381 Yeah, that's my impression as well. I think sometimes creators are offered jobs that they don't know what to do with it but at the same time it's too good to pass up. So you end up with a muddled film.
It's inspiring to see the presentation difference Drinker later achieved with the theatrical Drunken persona. Even though this earlier content is just as smart, it hits home so much harder with the thick drunken delivery. Interesting to feel the effect.
Killmonger: "Throw me in the ocean, like my ancestors who choose death over slavery." Dude, your ancestor were royal, and you went all over the world killing people who didn't do anything bad to you.
Didn’t his dad meet a normal African American and tied the knot and etc.? Because imo he’s technically right. I do agree though that it’s also odd considering he’s literally royal.
@@AWildRaito You're right, his mother was American, I misremember that. Still, that doesn't mean her ancestors were slaves (maybe her parents moved to US when she was young, but OK, I don't have to nitpick).
@@tmass1 what a heap of strawmen. Name one person whose ever claimed any of that. What hadn't happened prior to Black Panther was an afro-centric superhero movie that dealt with themes of colonialism (which Blade did none of).
wow one marvel movie that has a black protagonist out of the tens of marvel movies with a white protagonist!!! how dare black people complain about representation, they got one black why should they ask for more 😡😡😡
And Yet I would attest the Blade Movies were good. They were ONLY good because of Snipes. Someone else (like the next actor with the bald head that did the side project of blade) would have ruined it.
@@raynwolfsbane2084 Because ALL of the critical praise about Black Panther was about it being "the first superhero movie with a Black hero" - which was actually Blade. Not to mention several OTHER superhero movies since with black lead characters. NO, they weren't Africans, but they WERE black (which was what the critics had stated). That is why the person made the comment and why all of the critique was incorrect and so utterly sycophantic (but totally Woke).
During Black Panther’s climax it was the straight-white-American-man-Air Force Vet who saved the day by shooting down ships with Vibranium weapons while the entire black cast was engaged in a violent Black-on-Black tribal war. That’s a pretty stunning realization that critics/reviewers missed b/c they were so in love with the hype about Black Panther’s strong women and black superheroes and the wisdom/technology of Wakanda.
Exactly, even in a black superhero movie with a 98% black cast, a white saviour is still squeezed in, yet all these triggered snowflakes are still complaining about there being too many black people on their TV screens. It's sad.
Mothman see how awesome you can make a movie about a black superhero when you're not concerned about making a political statement and moreso concerned about making a badass superhero with a persuasive setting and characters?
@@mikeycrackson blade was made before the MCU existed and has no references to it. The success of blade kicked off the current whole comic book movie era.
@@andrewwilkins7823 ye blade made alot of people realise that comic book movies could be dark and not corny films like the early batman's also i just fucking love how blade is a bad ass who just happens to be black and not a bad ass because he is black
Not really. Blade got his own movie first, but Black Panther was published first and MUCH more popular in the comic books. Remember that Blade wasn't a "Marvel" movie. It wasn't MCU. It was a Wesley Snipes Martial arts vampire movie. A badass, legendary, defining moment in pop culture one, but not a Marvel movie. Marvel wouldn't put their cinematic intro onto it until years later. It's not so much that anyone forgot about Blade so much as Blade was never seen as a comic book movie by anyone but the most hardcore marvel fans. And I'm sure those guys hated the movie.
I'm a black woman. I though the movie was "ok", and beautiful. I felt ashamed and disgusting at the time it was nominated fot the Oscar. It was clear to see the political influence on this thing. So sad.
@@CodenameOliver101 probably meant that it looked beautiful. I can admit, even with all of its flaws, this movie had some pretty good looking shots and scenery.
Its a terrible movie that made a lot of money because a lot of people thought they had to watch it in order to prove they are P.C. You hit the nail on the head. This absurd period we're in now with the media desperate to appease cancel culture is just like what went on in Stalin's Russia.
@@marckz06 Or it's a movie who's goal is to push an agenda and milk the shit out of over privileged American blacks. It's almost like they think blacks are dumb enough to fall for pandering. It's seems they think they could even get blacks to vote Democrat. Imagine if blacks voted for the party of slavery, the KKK, segregation and socialism. Wouldn't that mean they could be tricked into anything?
Pescetarian is a sub-group of vegetarian. Their focus is still on a vegetable diet (and likely healthier). Only some of the societies get angry (esp social media) and try to dismiss this. I hope those vegetables are non-GM and not chemically sprayed in any form, and that's recycled fish
Vegetarians have this thing where they believe fish isn't meat. I can't tell you how many vegetarians I've come across that eat fish yet continue to claim they're vegetarians.
Jeremiah Crenshaw REALLY now? I don’t remember Kevin Feige going out of his way to highlight how important and impactful he is. It was just a movie that a certain demographic really embraced. That’s much different than the Captain Marvel phenomenon where literally no one I met in public actually holds it in high regard.
The Real Snowy Black Panther is a entertaining movie to many. This video is for those that don't like it and still have venom towards some one year later (strange beef to carry but whatever) I have my theory as to why certain people can not leave Black Panther alone when you got another movie that's packed with the sjw stuff you hate and a lead actress that antagonizes the fans. All Black Panther do was exist and be successful.
Cultural marxism. Its fucking everywhere nowadays. This poisonous idea that people have to hate the country they live in, that humans have to work as some sort of ultra diverse hivemind with no real logic or reason. Desiring a big authority figure to tell them what todo, what to eat, what to feel. All this SJW bullshit is funded and fueled by communists who want to eliminate individuality and self worth in the name of "social justice" and hollow morality. Stalin killed millions of his own people, starved them, butchered them and yet if you ask most russians nowadays they see him as some sort of demigod. Even in death they still worship/fear him, that is how deep his poisonous ideals run. The far left is trying to do the exact same thing to the free world these days. They want the whole planet to be equal, equally poor, equally miserable, equally disenfranchised, equally starved to death.
@@bdlblob Oh please. The far leftist thing is going too far I agree but people like you just get too deep down some bullshit rabbit hole. Some global conspiracy nonsense, people are idiots and the world swings between far left and far right. Simple. Swinging back right now with Trump, Duerte, Boris in the UK etc. Calm down
@@caob1876 Who the fuck are you to tell me to calm down you fucking moron? I have the freedom to write whatever the fuck I want. You think government funded institutions dont force government interests in their educational programs? How fucking naive could you be? Ask any 20 year old in america what the problem in the world is and theyll say "urrr capital baddd, orang man baddd, socialism goood I want everything for FREEEEE". You are as equally deluded as the fuckfaces who complain about taxes yet vote for that commie sanders.
As much as I love the Drinker & while I do agree with some points, but I can’t help think he was being a bit too brutally harsh on the movie. There’s way worse out there that deserves this treatment & it’s not a terrible movie, it’s a good watch
Question for you. I'm white, and I'm constantly disappointed with the way white people in the media claim to speak for me, but never actually say anything I agree with. Is this the case for you with black media personalities?
I'm sure there are things that you like that other ppl hated. That's the way of the world. Like assholes, everyone has an opinion. I thought it was good. It was def over hyped but from a logical standpoint, it was a fairly good movie. Far from trash.
That's called having experience, and a channel that blew up :D He is one of the best on TH-cam though, if TH-cam didn't blacklist him, he could be heading towards Pewds levels... .. . Imagine Critical Drinker having 30+ million subs OMG, that's the world I prefer... .. .
As an African, I agreed with you analysis. The movie lacked a very sophisticated plot. The makers of the movie fantasied about African culture without actually STUDYING African culture (research power African empires and figures and merge it into the story of the movie to make it seem more realistic).
For me, the biggest problem with being a rich isolated African country is that it defies gravity. Historically, the rich African countries are the ones most integrated with European countries. The most independent African countries are the poorest. You can't be Strong and Rich _and_ be Independent. You have to _pick_ _one_ .
@@thuglifebear5256 yeah afro-futurism has always been silly. tribal culture (low-life) doesn't mix well with high tech. it's actually a common theme of cyberpunk stories, but that is appropriately dystopia, whereas afro-futurism is utopian. the genre itself is broken and silly.
Si Filey you need help and faaaaast. Unless you’re kidding which I can’t tell honestly. Help me help you read Jordan Peterson’s 12 rules for life. Thank me later.
Kinda funny they way americans were brainwashed to se Stalin as an ultimate villan and dictator who was feared all over the USSR and when he died people were sad cuz they were told to be sad ^_^ Jezzz... Even americas propaganda is something soviets could only dream about. Especially when you look at modern hollywood and media.
@@ardour4545 Even americas propaganda is something soviets could only dream about. - Oh please cut the bullshit. The reason people were sad was because they didn't know what the hell was going to happen to the country after he dies.
@@michaellefort6128 Read where? Murdered how? By him personally? Who was counting? Do you realise how primitive dis lrolaganda is? By followong that logic we can come to a very curious cinclussions about leader who founded America for example. Wich tool did they use, how many natives died, and after that how many human souls were tormentet for US tk stack its core capital by using slavery and etc. This will bring us to the point that Stalin is a sweet teddy bear comlare to this. By does it reflects true historical meaning of events? Nope.
Every 4 comments or so there's a "this didn't age well", its a tragedy what happened to him but it really doesn't effect the quality of the film whether you like it or not 🤷♂️
Alex ico you literally have to be atleast one of the following a racist, a dc fan, someone whos easily manipulated or just someone who has terrible taste in art and shouldn’t be taken seriously
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The fact that Killmonger wants to help people in Los Angeles and not the Congo is very telling as to the motivation of the creators
"I want to die like my ancestors who died in the seas"
So what about the ones who died in the Sahara?
@@shadowofhawk55 wtf are you on about killmonger is a sub Sahara African in the movie this is how I know the people who hate this movie only hate it because it based on a positive image of Africa and Africans and not the shity and ignorant ass portrays that the west media always does with Africa with the documentary always talking about the negative things and showing the mud hunts that us Africans can never seem to find in our country😁
Killmonger to help all over the world but he grew up in LA so he knows how more than anywhere else.
@@eniolabakare6839 My point was that Africa's problems are internal as well as external. If he wants to shoot up America for the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade then he should shoot up West Africa for the Saharan Slave Trade.
@@shadowofhawk55 yeah, nah sorry mate it doesn't work that way cause it's Arabic people being horrible to African people and it just doesn't fit the progressive narrative.
Why did everyone call this the best black superhero movie, we all know blade is
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What about shaft?, pooty tang? Big mama's house?
What about steel. Y'know with Shaquille o'neal?
What about blank man?
Technically speaking this was the least diverse movie recently made.
@saadmanh
Actually it's still diverse in terms of the types of characters that were played, it just wasn't ethnically diverse. :p
@@DemonicRemption so... Racist.
@catothewiser true.
I guess diverse means non-white.
Unless you accept the newspeak meaning of diversity, which means no white people, then is hella diverse!
I just love how brutally honest and unbiased this guy is, unlike so many other channels.
He isn't honest and unbiased, he hated the movie because it has a Black cast. The only movies he praises are white men as strong leads lmao
Yeah he’s mostly accurate as well but there are times he oversimplifies and overlooks thing to fit the plot of his videos as well…
@@seveng1147 true, still love his vids tho
@@az_ax5 yeah agreed I’d say it’s like 80/20 for accurate/not
@Arran McEvoy nah this black panther one is 100000% spot on… mainly I find he looks over minor stuff like DR Strange being reckless.. he glosses over how he became strange
It's weird that Drinker was not drunk enough two years ago and He thanked us for watching at the end instead of saying "goo eeway noooo"
i cant even...
hes a bit disgruntled now
Proto-Drinker.
It was probably movies like this that made him drink more! 😂
It's been a hard two years.
I´m still not over how this technological utopia decides leadership by combat.
@Michael Freed yikes
It’s from the comics, yes I liked this movie, but the core criticisms against this movie are targeted at the fundamental elements that make up the character and wakanda as a whole from the comics, and it’s not like anyone could challenge or the right to be king, the political foundation behind this was that you had to either be the leader of he province or of royal blood, which is what killmonger was, the reason they ultimately settled on ritual combat was because protecting wakanda and the vribranium was their highest priority, all of this was explained in the film, but I get that no one paid that much attention because of the out of control marketing that was done for it
@@silverbullet537 Ok I concede that it is from the comics. But that doesm't really undermine my point. They are still deciding the countries lieder by combat, but he also have to be "of royal blood". What's next, a caste system?
lol
@impeteratorVribranium is wakanda's primary mineral, so whoever is in leadership needs to be a competent combatant in order to make sure it stays protected, and again its not just royal blood who challenges the current king/black panther, it has to be those of royal blood OR those who lead one of the other four provinces that can challenge for the throne, if their leading their perspective province (mining tribe, border tribe, river tribe etc) they've already shown themselves to be politically competent.
Hearing Drinker say “Have a great day” instead of “Go away now”, was really surreal.
was coming here to say the same thing lmao
It just doesn’t feel right hearing him being nice to us viewers
@@walrushvss2720 Was he on the wagon briefly?
@@bryanleigh6497 a sobering possibility
I have to say that this review is a great insight into the evolution of the character "The Critical Drinker". The writer was obviously tweaking the character to get him just right and I believe he did a great job for the end result (most of the time in more current reviews he pulls at least a couple of laughs from me). Will Jordan's "The Critical Drinker" has actually gotten me interested in reading his books!
I always found it funny that Wakanda is supposed to be an advanced utopia and yet they still fight with ancient tactics and weapons, and use rhinos in battle.😂
Culture matters to them I suppose
None of the superhero movies seem to have better tactics than just line up and run at each other. Even Braveheart had some deeper strategy
Hey spear ladies and armor rhino..i introduce you to tactical nuke
@@Danthrax81 nuke wouldn’t work
@@StellarAl if they can be hurt by spears i assure you they will die from 5000 degrees of heat, a Shockwave that can blow down cities, the ensuing irradiation of their metal armor, and the fallout
Welcome to Wakanda, the most technologically and intellectually advanced society in the world. We choose our leaders through dynastic inheritance and physical brawls. THAT's how advanced we are!
Tine Tannies i think it’s tradition even if its stupid tradition
Ikr? Even they're live in Africa atleast they know election through intelligence. Not just physical attribute
why the spears
Tine Tannies It’s their tradition. One of the only ways left from ancient times.
@@thefilmwatcher1302 That's a charitable explanation to justify a distinctly retrograde plot. The British keep a figurehead monarchy to maintain an aristocratic tradition while having a parliamentary democracy in practice. Wakanada's politics, if we're being honest, are barbaric. In fact, the entire plot rests on it.
Here’s something to think about
Wakandan’s watched as the slave trade happened when they could’ve ended it all ... yet they complain about how America has treated African Americans when they did nothing to help for centuries when they’re arguably the only people that could
That’s exactly Killmonger’s point in the movie, that’s why he moves to send wakandan weapons out to the world
Perhaps Wakandans were profiting from the capture of folk over the border and selling them to the Americans. This seems like the only plausible reason as to why they didn’t get involved.
@@Wonmanbanned well, that's what the various tribes did to each other...so
@@Wonmanbanned wait, if I remember correctly, americans didn't go to africa and enslave the natives. Most of Europe did that and americans get their slaves there. This is muddy and probably incorrect but americans did not go to africa and enslave the natives. Maybe I'm wrong, just correct me
@@chaosagent_0106 africans sold their rivals to europeans who then sold them to whoever wanted them (including America). Slavery was practiced by nearly every culture on earth including the native americans our woke idiots idolize so much. We learned. Some of us fought full scale wars to end it.
“It’s easier to clap until your hands are red raw than to be the one who dared to sit down first.”
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Quick point of personal privilege, we're doing jazz hands now, no more clapping. We have to consider the sensory overload risk for some of our comrades.
@@ifluro
Personal point of perception. Jazz is a sophisticated genre only understood by intellectuals. As an imbecile like many in this world, I find jazz very oppressive and condescending to those of lesser intelligence. Please refrain from using the world "jazz".
@@ifluro is that the new thing ? What is it about ? Who is oppressed by clapping and why ?
@@silvergrove8517 The recent Democratic Socialist Convention. It's that bad I first thought it was all 4chan.
Haha I did the same thing after that line.
As a Nigerian, I was not impressed, I couldn't believe some Nigerians were impressed. The costume was horrible, no consistency everyone just wearing many random clothes from different parts of the continent. It just looks like an American thinking about American problems all while making assumptions about a whole continent with hundreds if not thousands of languages and distinct cultures wrote it. They dont even look like they did much research about it. And that ending scene was ridiculous. I don't know why their priority will be to open a community center in some American city. Maybe the film should have been about a hidden American Island inhabited by descendants of escaped American slaves. That will actually make more sense why they care so much about what is happening in America. Also Africa is not a country please.
it was a fictional Sci fi ffs man it's not meant to be accurate and represent reality.
No one said Africa was a country. Thank god Captain Obvious is here to remind us!
Regardless of what and how it is presented, we like it and still love how great it is. And it will still be abused greatly as an overrated movie each time we hear it.
Of course Africa is not a country, it's a continent. And there are many countries there, like Wakanda, and Carthage maybe, idk actually.
Did we watch the same movie? The community centre is significant because that is where T'Challa's uncle was making his plans with the vibranium and where he was killed. Good god...
This is the most polite critical drinker I've ever heard
It’s real weird not being told to piss off at the end. I don’t like it.
And since.
@@Tofupancho Ya know... it kinda freaks me out.
Because if he was angry it could come of as racist or something
He sounds almost sober, i nearly recognize him. But points are accurate as usual.
Vibranium: the ultimate plot device
***Infinity Stones Enters The Chat***
And hashirama cells (naruto)
@@ChristopherMurphy1969 At least the Infinity Stones have specific purpose for each one, so there are some boundaries for each. Vibranium can apparently do nearly anything and everything you need it to do.
@@j2174 yeah like literally anything from healing bullets to the spine to giving you superpowers
@@ct-117 Plus it comes along with an egotistic, racist skeleton of a Princess sister.
OK, just gonna say it: people are afraid to say this movie is not great because they'll be labelled as racists. No, we're not racists, we just like good films. Welcome to 2021, folks...
I also like good films, and I believe black panther is one. just because some dislike the film, is not proof of it being bad.The film has good acting, good cinematography. good music, good wardrobe, good set design, the film is pretty good. I don't believe if you dislike the film you are racist, I do find it questionable though when the people who critique it negatively portray the them of anti-colonialism and slavery as bad in the film and call it wrong and bullshit, when it is an objective truth. Art truthfully addressing the liberation, potential, and struggle of the African people is justifiably good. Welcom to 2021 where art has cultural impact and inspires liberation.
@@2sayntsimeunv-shuda227 are you one of those people who think slavery was invented by, and propagated by white people?(asking because of a few of your comments up above, just wanna see if any further responses are actually worth paying attention too, cause some prior commentors think white people have never been hung, or enslaved, which i find both, hilarious, and almost depressingly sad) also, black panther is alright, but it's not great, not even really good, but that's just cause i don't like politics so hamfistidly shoved down my throat. if it wasn't made the same way captain marvel was, or atleast,w asn't advertised that way, and didn't have the entire main cast, ironically not including the white guy, be racist, i might have enjoyed it more, but i will agree, the music, wardrobe, set desing, and cinematography were good, but it's marvel so thats expected. acting, debatable, it wasn't bad, wasn't good either, for a aaa film, it was about up to par. not as good as some marvel films acting, better than others, about middle ground. so an alright watch, when you take away the massive flaws. problem is that those massive flaws are still there, so it lowers it quite a bit, at least for me, personally,m i don't like movies that try to get you to sympathise with the obviously racist main cast.(not the actors, for clarification) but overall, i'd give it a 3-5 out of ten, i'd have to watch it again to be more precise, but the negatives, few that they are, are big negatives.
@@2sayntsimeunv-shuda227 tbh.. no i can tell you that this kind of movies is just about the fantasy ideology some people have about africa. And i can tell you that its not white people who stop us from devellopment, its ourselves...flash news america also has a past of colonisation but unlike Africa they reunited and went forward. if we always have to put the fault on some one else we will never get "free"and i think this movie was bull too. (from an African leaving in Africa)
@@AltriumGaming The cast racist? You can’t be racist towards white people. And I bet you enjoy actual racism towards poc in other media’s. But colonizer jokes are too far and left?
@@kalync.8232 No way u just said that?🤣😭😭
The last point you make is *precisely* right. This movie got praised to the moon because people were afraid to criticize it…which is frightening as hell. The part that makes me feel dirty is that it’s totally condescending but NOBODY acknowledges that. It’s like a father emphatically saying “good job!” to his three-year-old who’s covered in finger paint and chewing on a crayon. Why isn’t anyone insulted? Why doesn’t anyone recognize this as the insult that it is? If society smiled and said “good job!” at everything I did, it would feel horrible and empty. I would grow bitter and resentful at the fact that I was obviously not being taken seriously…and that’s *exactly* what’s going on here.
This! And this has awful, incredibly harmful implications for black people in the US (and in South Africa as well since they have the same problem) because it's not just entertainment/culture, it extends to general behavior, education, crime etc. The US has at least two generations of black people who have been told 24/7 that they are better than anyone else, can't be responsible for their own actions, are constantly being held back, that everything they do and say is the best while other races would be held accountable, criticized, condemned or mocked for the same things. And as a result, black Americans top all the negative stats by a mile. Crime, STDs, teen pregnancy, abortion, lack of educations, illiteracy, health, jobs, violence, abuse, child abuse and neglect, hell, even racism because when they are racist, that is applauded too. It's hard to express how harmful, condescending and racist this whole mess is. Black Panther is the symptome.
A large enough portion of people are morons. A large enough portion of those are black.
For a country supposedly in Africa, Wakanda is surprisingly America-centric in its thoughts.
It's because they can't be original... all is taken from what's already been given to them.
It can’t be set in black Africa because it’s not a shithole
Bugsy Malone whats black Africa?
Rasheen Hillard sub Saharan Africa, the non Arab countries.
Vlad the guru you are clueless and you are listening to nonsense.
Ask your new masters the Chinese what they think of the fake black Africans hard luck stories. 🤣🤣🤣
I used to enjoy diversity until I was told I had to
Well said😜
Same. Now I pretty much start to frown whenever I see anything other than straight white males in a movie because I've started to expect everything else to be a tool for forcing some stupid bullshit down my throat. Equality and diversity in movies used to be just that, instead of this constant dunking on some artificial definition of a bigot, which also covers half of the audience.
Nobody says you have to. We still have a bunch of idiots out there who are free to be assholes whenever they want. People over here acting like victims whenever someone tells them things should be more diverse. Fucking crybabies.
@@BabyRainForest yea. In America, we literally have classes and meetings at our job that preaches to us about diversity. It's in almost every fabric of society now. The choice to avoid this crap is nearly void.
Spoken like a true racist!!!!
I still can't believe Black Panther got the honor of being the first comic book film to be nominated for Best Picture. What an absolute insult to The Dark Knight and Logan. The movie is above average, at best.
@@NP-zv4bf its not even a good movie, call it an ok one is pretty merciful.
Peter Thế the worst part is that this movie won 3 oscars, I guess it deserved to win costume design but original score and best picture, SMFH, give it a year or two, and the whole world will see how This movie didn’t age well at all
@@NP-zv4bf Even costume design is debatable. Most of the characters had very forgettable outfits.
Jack Montero I watched the movie again 2 days ago, and you’re right, it’s very debatable
I agree with you about ‘The Dark Knight’.But logan?.. lol that was a bang average movie..
Imagine how much better it would’ve been if Wakanda was an active humanitarian society and the plot was based around Tchalla stopping Klau from uprooting African governments trying to return it to its war torn state because idk HES A FUCKING ARMS DEALER???? It’s almost like the plot writes itself if you give it 4 minutes of thought.
I feel like at Marvel if you’re a writer and you wrote something as clever as that (that’s a good idea btw) one of the higher ups would perform changes so that the themes are barely explored and jokes and CGI battles are put into it… cos NO WAY we’d have a thought provoking plot like that in an MCU movie.
@@firstlast9846 that could’ve easily been the plot for the sequel but right after end game. But of course mcu wasted the blip. And as you said aren’t that thought provoking. Maybe due to Disney and still trying to appeal to younger audiences.
You are forgetting that to write sth like that you'd need writers actually well versed in history, politics and popular culture of specific African countries. I doubt there are a lot of talented African writers in Hollywood and serious research for mcu films seems unpopular.
And then there's always the possibility of being accused to paint Africa as the former president once put it.
For all the above I think it's unlikely it will ever happen, though it would be a welcome change from this US-centric worldview they're peddling now.
Why tryin if you can make million by make a turd and slap big name on it, people still buy it.
Brasileiro mais fraco
Blade was/is the best example of a black Marvel hero/antihero.
That’s coz they didn’t bang on about the fact he’s black, he just was, I don’t even think it was acknowledged.
Jared Humpherys
Angel was doing the same thing around that time. Easily insert Angel was/is the best example of a white hero/anti-hero.
@@unpeeledbeetle210
If Blade's first name was black, that probably be too much for you :)
@@tnbn55 I loved Angel but man, Blade was always cooler
@Emperor Ssraeshza hilarious how much better Blade's action was than Black Panties.
As a South African... that last scene made it clear what this movie was made for. They used African culture but it was never for Africans LOL.
Would that now be cultural appropriation? 😏
@@TickleMeElmo55 that's cultural appropriation by black Americans against africans
@@SamuelJoseph962 Pretty much if we go by today's logic. Tsk tsk. Oh the irony. Heck the comic itself isn't even culturally accurate. It was created by Stan Lee, who's white, where Wakanda is his own idea of an African futuristic super city.
Watching the movie almost got me nauseated.. The makers took no time out to study Africa and come up with a unique culture that mimics what could be found here.. Instead, they just threw bits and pieces of everything together and made a shitty movie.. No African descendant to the throne is selected by combat.. Black people of America, so desperate to find their roots that they turn to fictional characters created by white people for help.. Pathetic
Who tf was it made for then? Because everybody I know, fucking hates it!
Diversity
Original definition: a variety of people representing many different races, religion and ethnicities.
Today's definition: Anything not white Especially not male & white.
(im black) honestly if black panther was black, nobody would like it honestly becuase people think that if its black its good idk why, same thing happend with the spiderman into spider verse
Especially not straight, white, male
No, Diversity today means that there should only be a blob of nothingness. Everyone without identity, culture, freedom of believe, nation. Nothing to anchor oneself. Just a worker bee that is thought controlled and not able to think for himself.
@@kalaharikreef7371 sadly, I fully agree.
The diversity is more in terms of the MCU as a universe then Black Panther as a solo movie. If we are talking diversity in Marvel movies, Black Panther is on par with the rest. Except the others have mostly white people with the Occassional black buddy. Black Panther isn't all black people, just mostly black people. Which is great. Nice to see that be the case once in awhile and not "only one black person can exist as the diversity friend". If black panther fails at diversity, so do ALL the Marvel movies. The box office sensation was is less about how good the movie was (it was mediocre) and more proof how starved the black audience is for a semi good action hero occasionally that's not a white dude or Mary Sue super powered white chick. The movie isn't bad at all. The lame parts are no more lame then the other Marvel movies. And it's way better then the boring Captain Marvel. Black Panther's biggest problem is the hype is better than the movie, but it's a good mid tier MCU movie.
"...T’Challa meets up with Shuri, his 15-year-old sister. Shuri is responsible for overseeing all of Wakanda’s technological development. Like, everything. It’d be like if Elon Musk was in charge of all US infrastructure, military development, the space program, Facebook and Family Guy. And he was 15 years old. What the fuck am I watching?!"
One of your all-time best quotes.
I've read a few comments defending Wakanda for not being diverse, and being all black. Well, I think most people aren't really criticizing that point per se, but the fact that there's a double standard where places like Asgard (traditionally Germanic/Northern European) get non-white characters these days in Hollywood movies. If you're ok with a black Achilles in a new 'Troy' movie, then you should be ok with a Korean Shaka Zulu in another movie too. If you think one's absurd, then the other must be too. People don't like double standards, and shouldn't be subject to them.
Asgard isn't set to ablidge with the same rules as wakanda since it isn't a planet on Earth, it literally an alien realm, so them appearing to germanic/nordic people and them worshiping them wouldn't take away the possibility of them being diverse in nature, due to them not being bound by the same set of rules, logic.
But wakanda being diverse wouldn't make sense at all, like what logic would we use to explain it?
@@LiSe0 What logic? There is no logic, both Asgard and Wakanda are not 'real' as in, not of this earth. But Asgard is set in Germanic mythology. Germanic=North European people. Wakanda is set in Africa. Africa=Usually black Africans. So what I was saying makes sense. But then again, needing everything to be 'diverse' is pretty nonsensical too these days, and I think that is the root of a lot of peoples' gripes.
@@CJ-dw3dr, no, it doesn't make sense, and not amount of Olympic gold medal level of mental gymnastics will work. Wakanda is set in our world. Asgard is completely made up. You're equating "cultural mythology" to "real world location," that being sub-sahara Africa.
You're nothing more than the usual "white people are victims" idiot
@Sedz Mso lol whut? Try again buddy, that response was about as idiotic as they come
@@williams268 he's right though wakanda is an isolated never colonized African country obviously it will be only African.
Asgard is a magical otherworldly realm sure they where worshipped by nordic people but that might have just been where the bifrost landed there is no reason to believe that they would make the people that look like them worship them
as a mexican i feel threatened by the lack of fellow Mexicans living in wakanda.
They had walls.
Well Mexicans are Hispanic and part of the white imperial colonist slaver culture, what did you expect?
>I am going to add that I was joking here, even though I hate that I have too. The simple fact is that even all those white imperial colonist slaver cultures were made up of the rich slavers >and slave owners as well as the poor and disenfranchised.
@@jonesangus2263 underrated 😂😂
Wakanda is a racist country
@@jasonasdecker Well, Mexicans are more Native American than they are Hispanic.
If Black Panther was nominated for an Oscar for Best Picture, then Logan should be awarded an Oscar for Best Picture...
Obi Juan Jabroni facts. But I mean we all know why black panther got nominated
Absolutely, Logan was such a powerful movie
I totally agree. Logan is a masterpiece. Black Panther is a good film. Nowhere near oscar worthy.
Jeremiah Crenshaw You mean it’s the same reason Barack Obama got the Muffukin NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, even though he ordered OVER 193 DRONE STRIKES during his presidency ?? Because he’s Blacker than an Ace of Spades?
I disagree, if black panther was nominated for an oscar, then logan should have won EVERY oscar.
As an African (Kenyan) who never bothered to watch Black Panther due to the Hype, I completely agree with you especially on the wierd representation of the supposed African culture, needs or situation needing to be solved or something.
Hype or good marketing either way why are you commenting on a movie you never watched?
@@mpilombuyazi1411 they just explained why they are commenting and giving the reason for it. That’s what comment sections are for under free speech to share you opinion.
Not everyone needs to see the movie some people enjoy watching reviews… to see how good or bad a movie is to decide later if they want to see a movie.
Clearly you just want an echo chamber.
@@mpilombuyazi1411 I watched some of it. Does that count?
It was too stupid, walked out about halfway through.
An African nation, technologically far ahead, never helped any other African states. Sounds about right.
Well africa is usually to busy fighting itself to go anywhere so even if wakanda gave the others technology I doubt it would change anything
@@yharnamenjoyer7648 . You’re 100% right, was watching a documentary only the other night on Lagos, absolutely terrifying.
@@markmiller6402 well humans by nature naturally crave dominance and superiority over others so this wouldn’t be too far off (minus the fictional advanced technology)
@@markmiller6402He is not 100% right, Nigeria is one example. There are many progressing African countries. If you find internal wars absolutely terrifying, what about western countries infiltrating Africa stealing the resources doing genocides, starting coups, overthrowing revolutionaries to perpetuate chaos. Even though she is faced with all these odds Africa is still progressing.
@@yharnamenjoyer7648 Not true, There are many African countries that are not at war with each other. We not gonna act like Europe did not fight wars lol. And of course Africa has internal wars when it was colonised pillaged and oppressed. Africas evolution is still being interfered with by foreign powers assassinating leaders, suppressing movements and starting coups . And Africa has historically not been too busy to go any where else, the moors ruled in Spain for centuries, the axum empire was seen as one of the world powers and was the first christian kingdom. The Egyptian/kmt kingdom set the foundation of philosophy, science and medicine. So Africa has already given out technology to the world for it is the mother of Humanity.
Remember guys, don’t call Black Panther a bad movie or you’re a racist.
Fr tho
Biden 2020
@@NormanReaddis bruh it’s 2021 😂
@@enoch4024 no that "if you don't vote for me you're not black" came from biden election speech in 2020 lol
@@NormanReaddis ohhhh your right 😂
"Progressive politics is the Joseph Stalin of our time"..... How true.
I'm good with that....we'll have to kill them.
They're just giving us justification by putting Stalin, Mao, Lenin or whoever on a pedestal as their model. Easier to shoot them.
incorrectly phrased. Progressivism is about economic and foreign policy reform. The rest (which is what you are referring to) might be called along the lines of "liberal identity bullshit" used by corporatists to fleece everyone of their money. But i understand the mix up. Everyone throws around every term these days thinking they have a deeply insightful and correct definition, but they just have their heads up their arse. Anyway using "terms or definitions" to communicate is an obfuscating pretense at "imma smaaart". Go away now....
@@ericaugust1501 Not my phrasing. It is a quote from the video.
@@Hydrogenblonde While it does appear ambiguous, i meant to infer that Critical Drinkers phrasing was incorrect...however .... you have repeated the mis-phrasing, and as we all know, that is punishable by forced, binge drinking the cheapest whiskey until you soil yourself.
@@ericaugust1501 Ah, I don't need to binge drink cheap whiskey to soil myself.
I hate Black Panther as a movie, it was a convoluted piece of crap. And why is everyone acting like he's the first black super hero when Wesley Snipes done it way better as Blade, 20 years ago!
a coworker said to me "Black Panther is just a live action Lion King." And now that's all I can think about it.
He's not wrong.
Oh shoot, he kinda right
I am WAY too high to process this amount of truth....
Lion King (the 90s cartoon)was a great movie actually, insulting to compare the two.
@@SarahConLeche Agreed.... Scar go brrrt
As an African, black panther and marvel were doing their best to Africanise American black culture basically using African tribal culture and symbols all over the movie without any real consistency or explanation about what it means. It's something I've seen Americans do when they try to look African, basically wear as much colourful shit and not expect people to ask them questions. At first I liked the movie then I realised what most of the action scenes were just a distraction from a poor writing like most avenger movies. Black americans don't care about Africans unless it's in vouge or when they keep talking about going back to the motherland as if they'll just move one day and leave everything to live in Africa, and because of that I found it comical that all of a sudden this movie was being used as a "let's all unite against our colonisers" type bs. Because it was basically a movie where the whole cast was black, nobody was "allowed" to criticise the movie in fear of being labelled racist even if their criticisms were justified and warranted. Its just like captain marvel she's a average actor at best but also allows her politics to affect how the movie, and any criticism is labelled sexist etc
Black Panther overall as a character is just the Marvel discount version of Batman.
Very well said.
Thanks for saying it. The Avengers movies were poorly written. Ill take it even further and say they were total dog shit. They ruined Hulk.
@@LevisH21 true😂😂😂 never thought about that but it makes sense
@@goodkrypollo1706 ruined tf outta hulk I couldn’t believe what I was watching . He was taking selfies with kids omg 😭
Someone once asked me what I thought about Black Panther and I simply said "it was alright I guess" then they immediately got aggressive and said "oh because it wasn't *WHITE* Panther it would have been better?" I was just like wtf??? It's sad how so many people I heard that automatically assume you're racist just because you didn't like another mediocre marvel film.
Did that really happen tho...
Had to deal with a slightly less aggressively worded version of that conversation a couple of times. It was a mediocre movie driven by nonsensical plot contrivances. That's an entirely valid observation and the movie being full of people of a certain skin color doesn't change that.
This movie definitely beats captain America first avenger idc what anyone says🤷♂️
@@rapid9534never seen that one. But I wouldn't be surprised. Most Marvel movies suck, including DC.
Funny thing is, white panther actually exists, under the name White Wolf
Shuri is just if "black girl magic" were a character
And then they tried to Cancel the actress because she didn’t want to take the Covid Jab and spoke out about her Christianity.
No idea what’s wrong with that
@@iLikeCok Huh?
@@iLikeCok Huh?
@@iLikeCok Everything is wrong with it
Politics aside, that CGI fight ruined the entire movie for me.
Which one?
Dwight Cook- ur joking right?
I could forgive the film for that if it weren't for the "magical BS." lol seriously, vibranium may as well just allow someone to instantly create a death star. So over used and terribly written as a concept!
Politics aside. How dare you have a valid criticism of the movie that isn't putting down black people for being brainless idiots as a community or calling white people racist for thinking it's anything less then brilliant.
I was actually accused of racism at my job when i was asked by a customer if i was going to go see it and i said no. Less than an hour later i was in the managers office being given the riot act, i worked at Walmart at the time.
Hope you told your manager to go fuck themselves and walked out
BLM are assholes
😂😂😂😂people don't realize that forcing someone to like something associated with black people is racism. You still forcing colour on people
I'm 100% black by the way
Ah got the old shove it down ya throat treatment
Crow Woyzeck
Best part is the female lead calling guns "primitive" then uses a SPEAR nonstop.
Like how Obi-Wan Kenobi killed Grievous with a blasters and said the same thing.
Joe Hand not really... he called blasters uncivilized, the one instance he used one. Whereas in Black Panther the lead female called guns primitive while she herself used a weapon far more primitive, continuously
@NutritionFacts1979 name the character "hacked to pieces". All the deaths you see with those laser swords are clean, a single slice or puncture with little to no blood shed. General Grievous took more than a couple, he went down like Tony Montana.
@BeetleMan1979 The idea is that killing somebody with martial arts and melee weaponry is a test of strength, skill, and training, whereas killing somebody with a gun requires minimal training.
The jedi-culture is a martial culture that values warrior ideals, despite being largely pacifistic in its goals.
It's only understandable that in this kind of culture, a gun is seen as less civilized, despite the fact that, of course, killing a person is not exactly what we westerners would call "civil".
For the Wakanda woman, the spear is exactly the same thing. It's a symbolic weapon of martial prowess and disciplined fighting, whereas guns are "easy" to use.
I don't find this concept to be strange at all. It's just based on a different conception of civility.
On the point of "Guns are uncivilized":
Guns = Pull a Trigger and a brute blast comes at full force. Made to kill quick, regardless of the user's skill or commitment.
Melee Weapons = from ancient times exists the concept of them being a extension of the user, and that the fight style shows how noble the user is. And is supposed to be able to be used for defense too, not just kill.
Ideas that Jedi seem to Believe and put to pratice.
I'm glad someone had the nuts to criticize this movie, without fear of being called a racist.
As a black person I wasn't that found of BP, as it felt forced and made me a bit uncomfortable.
Blade. Greatest black man of all time.
Interesting you say that. I’m ethnic but not black. I found the whole thing racist. Kind of suggesting that the one country in Africa that became civilised and advanced was by the lucky strike of a vibranium meteorite... whilst the rest of the surrounding areas were still stuck in tribalism and were backwards. That’s why I really didn’t like it. And Michael B’s character was to want to bring more violence to oppressed black people around the world which kind of misses the whole anti violence/gang movement and the achievements of black people despite oppression through the years.
@@RS-do1of
I've said it's patronising many times and could actually be trolling because of the similarities with reality. Michael's character contradicts himself throughout the whole movie and just flips his talking points whenever he's challenged. It's a piss take of black people and they don't see it.
Also what the heck is "ethnic"? Do you just mean not white.
@@DannyBoy-jy1kq Yep loved that movie/character ........ Wait was Blade black ?🤔🤔🤔🤔😮
Paul John according to the world we live in now. Nope. That cool he made white guys wish they were black. 😝
People in Africa: get kidnapped and used as slaves.
Wakanda: I sleep
DARTH JAR JAR literally one of the early scenes was one of the females infiltrating a group like this, you sound dumb
@@sneetchyboy9390 Well his point isn't aiming at that one scene, that is only a small part of a bigger picture. He is pointing to the centuries of the Atlantic slave trade and the centuries way before when even their people enslaved one another. They isolated themselves off from the rest of the world and just watched on the sidelines as everyone tore themselves apart. While they only focused on themselves and didnt share their resources while they could've helped those less fortunate. Again that scene is only a small part to the wider story.
Boi Johnny Boy but they changed that too by the end of the movie
Boi Johnny Boy wakanda is east african and most of the Atlantic slave trade was west african and far away, not mention they isolated there country and hid there powers
@@sneetchyboy9390 ok that's a fair point about the atlantic slave trade. But there was also the slave trade into the middle east and Africans still enslaved one another. It's good that they finally changed from an isolationist nation, but we can't ignore the centuries where they just sat on the sidelines and watched. Especially when they show us in the intro of the movie how they watched the world tear itself apart. I can respect your own view on the matter though.
Man, why didn't I find this 2 years ago when I thought I was the only non-insane person on the planet. It wasn't TERRIBLE, but if it weren't for the factor that everybody REALLY was raving about, it was a thoroughly mediocre superhero movie with a limp ineffective hero who was easily outcharisma'd by the bad guy.
Cartman always agreed with you.
Agreed, I knew it was overblown before I ever touched it lol. I still stayed cautiously optimistic but once they started saying it was worthy of best picture I knew it was gonna fall short. Its not even top 10 Super Hero movies imo, its good I guess but doesn't stand out in any way. My best friend is black and said he was disappointed after all the hype lol.
Gee - it's almost as if this movie wasn't good and was only pushed as part of some sort of agenda. I wonder what the obvious political message it is that they're shoving down everyone's throats?....
What marvel movies do you think is better than this then cause it’s def top 15. /Top 10.
@@jaidendarwins8398 Seen as what junk Marvel produces, it definitely is in some top 10 or 15. To be honest, Black Panther is a bloody masterpiece next to Aquaman, but I guess that was DC..? And I think Black Panther was more fun then many of the recent Marvel movies, so I guess that compared to other Marvel or superhero movies, BP is a very good movie! Compared to actual good movies it doesn't really hold up, but that goes for most of Marvel.
BP is one of the most overrated films in history. I think most people know this, but they weren't allowed to say that - not even to themselves - without being accused of racism. Ironically, the hype over BP did a major disservice to black actors like Wesley Snipes, Sidney Poitier, Woody Strode, and others by pretending that the great fictional heroes/superheroes they portrayed never existed. I remember people whom I knew at the time saying, "It's about time we get a black superhero!" When I told them about Luke Cage, Blade, Shaft, and others, their response was either indifference or hostility. That immediately told me that people were not allowed to express anything but praise for this movie.
Exactly! Blade was so much better and it was 20 years ago. I'd rather watch Blade 3 than Black Panther any day of the week.
While you mentioned Shaft, there's also Samuel Jackson literally being Nick Fury. To me it was wasted they didn't do a solo film after Avengers1 or so, but I do love his inclusion in "Captain America: Winter Soldier." However we also had an awesome trilogy with Wesley Snipes as Blade being absolutely awesome, nailing the role.
Also you know what. Black Panther had that entire final fight scene looking all rubbery and poor without using motion capture and some real people for parts, etc.
Blade II did this with CGI in a fight scene that lasted way, way shorter and we basically didn't see it again at all for the rest of 2 nor in 3 at all.
Nevermind that "Winter Soldier" came out first and thus we had Sam Wilson as The Falcon. Side role? Yes? Still a black superhero.
Suprised they haven't already went nuts with "first black woman superhero" (cause photon didn't happen in wandavision, or DC's multiple time efforts lol).
@@oneandonlysound3453 And there's the non movie heroes. Static shock, Green Lantern, Vixen, Storm, etc.
@@ThisNachoFriend Then do that. Why are people acting like they were forced to watch this movie?
@@mpilombuyazi1411 media acts like we're supposed to like this movie. What don't you understand about consuming media and commenting on it regardless of if it's good or bad?
As a black man, I'm glad someone finally has the balls to put this movie through the wringer. It's 2022 and everyone, rightfully, seems to have forgotten the movie.
i swear half of the mcu films i cant even remember the plot or main villain and his/her purpose. its just so generic imo.
@@mjl11 quantity over quality
The movie is still talked about lol
Nerd.
@@curismo5526 Well, just to put it in perspective for you, Black Panther was the highest rated movie on IMDB for quite sometime, beating out movies like Shawshank Redemption, LotR Trilogy, and the Godfather. Now it's not even in the top 250.
Thought I was the only black man that thought this film was a CHORE to sit through. I did it for the culture but the movie was terrible. I understand why critics tip toe around it but it was a dull film.
The Stalin / clapping metaphor at the end... I was speechless after that. You've earned another subscriber!
It was good. Real good.
except that others have literally made the same metaphor countless times since the film death of stalin has been shown on tv Very Recently,for days on end,.. which is a Comedy Btw.., i agree that this is an Over Rated Film, But Cpt Marvel To me may be the Most Over rated, and Un Warranted MCU film ever,..
It's true, that thing that's nothing like that other thing is just like that other thing, because I'm a conservative tool and everything I don't like is communism
Same. Well said. I like the character...but the movie was indeed mediocre.
Analgoy, simile, metaphor... whichever floats your boat. Personally, I'm never too bothered about semantics, especially when commenting on TH-cam lol. But I'm glad you agree Jason Strom. Too many movies these days are, let's be honest, full of s**t. Uh oh - all of a sudden I'm getting The Last Jedi flashbacks lol 😁
It's so odd to hear the Drinker talking in his normal voice and ending the video with a kind message.
This is before all the terrible movies drove him into an acholical frenzy
Have a nice day?! Definitely not the Drinker I know!
Jeeezus he’s sober....
He’s sober, that’s not a bad thing
June Asiimwe this is the sober drinker.
The Drinker didn't tell me to "Go away now." How am I supposed to know what to do?
Chadwick Boseman: *dies*
TH-cam: *recommends this*
google has 0 chill
@Isaiah lewis how did race even play a part in this comment?
A bit of a poor tasting comment to be honest
@Rex Warden Native Nigerian here. I strongly disagree. The movie isn't perfect but it is 1000% not insulting or pandering.
@Isaiah lewis what? You're literally proving drinkers point
Right now is at number 1 in the Top 100 Movies of All Time in Rotten Tomatoes, critics are just a joke.
I think I'm going to vomit.. wait I'm over it
Wtf.... I checked. You’re right. It’s disgusting.
Those critics are a bunch of asshats
Of course it's better than the Godfather.......RT has no agenda....
@@dinogarth1 bs@ the movie stunk! One of the worst movies in history
I love how no two Wakandans have the same accent.
Well, diversity?
😉
I noticed the same about Hobbits.
Most countries have wide variations in accent do they not?
@@ScotisticDad they do but most
the people living in each area have there own accent. They don't all have different accents. The majority would have the same accent with a few other dialects throw in
from people who have moved from other parts of the country.
Within one city the accents would be closer.
😱Drinker went from “Thanks for watching. Please hit subscribe if you like” to “Anyways… that’s all I’ve got for today. Go away now. “
Here's a hilarious bit of irony: Did you know that none of this movie was filmed in Africa? No joke, *not one shot* of this movie was filmed in Africa. The only time the production team traveled abroad was to go to London and South Korea. That's it. As a result, Africa never saw a single cent of the money made from this movie. And I'm sure there are a large number of impoverished African tribes who would've greatly appreciated a cut of that cheddar.
Oh, the delicious irony.
All through I do not like the people who made the movie but, I do not think they need the money. We already throw a shit ton of money at Africa and yet the place is still the same. Then again, it might make a difference I don't know.
It would be funny, if it weren't so sad.
@Talebird K Doesn't sound racist to me more cyncial
Better them then me
Wow... 🤦♂️
I remember laughing my ass off at the ending. When T’Challa realized he has to help young black kids or whatever, the first thing he does is reveal himself to young African Americans in a sort of ghetto in NY or something. Bruh 😂. Are you sure they’re the most helpless black kids in the world? How about those that literally live on your continent and aren’t in the most powerful country in the world already?
I’m not gonna lie. I really enjoyed the movie when it first came out. But as time went on, I started seeing its clear motive. And it wasn’t to deliver a great marvel product with good plot and fights. No. It was clearly targeting a whole race for box office money. I wanted to compare it a little to Shang-Chi, but no that one was just bad execution and not exciting. Shoutout to the actors though. Their performance is literally the only thing saving the movies.
That's american-centrism.
Lol, I know. I just watched an ad for starving children in threadbare clothes from somewhere or another. I can't help but think of the slaves in African from the first part of the BP movie. Like squashing slavery on your own continent wasn't first priority.
So just because America is the “the most powerful country in the world” means
Kids In poverty in the us aren’t equal to kids in poverty in Africa?
I thought it was because that’s where his bad started the whole killmonger thing
@@mariantambe5110then they'd have to mention that Africa still has slavery while European countries don't
I never noticed black and white hero differences until the media started rambling about race.
(Edit: I mean, I do know if a hero black or white, but it didn't really matter to me because skin color means nothing. Character and integrity does.)
Bc they’re all white
Think about it all the dope superhero’s are white
Bro, all of the epic heroes are white... Black Panther was the first, cool and powerful superhero, who was not a sidekick
@Hudson Smachetti Funny how its an agenda, when the main heroes are black but completly normal if they are all white.
@@nichtsowichtig9158
No, Blade was first.
I’ve only started following CD in the last couple months. This is the oldest video I’ve watched of him. He’s quite a bit more restrained in this. The same critical eye, but less bombastic. It makes me appreciate the persona he’s created even more!
I call this movie The Black Pander
So good 😄
Is a film about a super Chinese society set in China - The Chinese Pander?
@@tnbn55
No, that would just be actual China. No need to make them up.
@@tnbn55 Every movie that has a Chinese character speaking Chinese and saving the day to get the movie into China is The Chinese Pander
Omg this is genius😂😂
100% Correct, vastly overrated.
What makes me laugh, is how everyone in the black community was shouting about the 1st black marvel super hero movie but I didnt hear that sort of noise from the black community, when Blade was first released!, who was the real first black marvel super hero movie and Blade is a much better film than black panther.
Actually, Blade was New Line Cinema, not Marvel. :) And Blade is anti-hero loner. Black Panther has a nation backing him. :)
@@tnbn55 splitting hairs there
@@EugVR6
Nah. Blade wasn't on this scale as a character/story. He's basically a homeless guy who has to hide and live like the creatures he kills.
@@tnbn55 Blade is from Marvel Universe. Hey! From comics
@@tnbn55 Bottom line is, Blade is a Marvel character, licensed to New Line as Marvel didnt have a movie studio then.
Blade was a massive commercial success with a Black actor in the lead role and the Black community weren't shouting about a black anti hero / Super hero in a lead role.
Blade is still a far better film than Black Panther. 😎
Drinker before Captain Marvel: Thanks for your time, and have a great day.
Drinker after Captain Marvel: This is all I've got for today... Go away now!
I just searched that comment. I knew it!
I'm not used to the drinker being polite and thanking at the end. It was such a shock that I subscribed before I realised what I was doing.
That Stalin analogy was Gold. You've earned a subscriber
Gold? It's a Vibranium encrusted unobtanium medal!
@Rodzilla If you see a problem with a political analogy being used on a movie that is pushing global politics, then you might have the intelligence of a Liberal.
The Stalin story is from gulag archipelago.
hahahaha too true!
Rodzilla I appreciate you pointing out the hypocrisy of that man you are totally right a bunch of victims this movie isn’t even that political I guarantee if it wouldn’t have been successful he would have praised this thanks again for being reasonably I told a individual that avatar is probably the most overrated movie ever it’s dancing with wolves in space and he said I was racist like I never knew white guys were this threatened buy black peoples it’s has open my eyes to we have to keep the pressure on them because they are incapable of doing the right thing own there own
Captain marvel: allow me to introduce myself
Captain Marvel was not overrated.The movie was mostly known as the 3rd worst mcu movie(Thor:the dark world & the incredible hulk) for how painfully average it is.It could have been a better film.Hopefully black widow and all other female MCU movies are better films than this.
@@DeezNuts-te4lm you’re not very cash money
Absolute facts
@@mlg_bob_ross8185 no bob ross you're not cash money
@@DeezNuts-te4lm not very cash money of you to steal my idea
I prefer Pink Panther.....does that make me racist?
It could mean you're gay?
Gaycist.
I used to really love Pink Panther wafers and chocolate bars that were pink....Lindt do a strawberry and cream thing that tastes the same.
Pike panther is way better and the fighting with Cato was way more realistic than this fucking shite
Your a swiney weener
Honestly I loved the movie when I first saw it in theatres but me and my girlfriend at the time rewatched it when it came to Netflix and I realized how bad the movie was. I think the hype of seeing a black panther movie in theatre drowned out how bad the movie was and I was just happy to see it but after seating down and actually taking my time to focus on the movie I saw all of the flaws in it and it just wasn't me, my ex did as well and a few of my friends. Black Panther was just a hype movie that played on Black and African culture to get a reaction but when you look passed that you can see the flaws and lazy writing in the movie. And being a Nigerian I can tell you alot of the languages and clothes they were wearing were BS.
Holly shit that final clapping analogy was fucking spot on.
hmm..no.. It actually was spot on
@Tom Gordon I found the brainwashed lefty with a superiority complex
I had never heard of that. That is hilarious.
I can imagine on one of STALIN's moodier days, he wished he could just execute all the sycophants for their spinless, characterless ideology of himself out of sheer boredom in a land of compliant yes men.
Totally pointless.
*guy shoots*
Wakanda: So Primitive
Also Wakanda: *Throw Spear with hand*
I think this was supposed to be a sort of echo of Obi-Wan's belief that lightsabers were more civilised than blasters somehow
Evidently your racist but never noticed that the spears were hi tech. Not just regular spears idiot.
A spear that can destroy a car lol
@@jk2k187 so light sabers are real huh?
The spears could fire energy blasts, could interlock and create forcefields, and were strong enough to stop speeding cars.
It's literally so loved just because it's an all black cast the Oscars gave it way too much credit just for that
We’ll name a time when there was a all black cast in a movie that’s not about racisms
@@borntobeaddractive4485 OK and so what?
@@borntobeaddractive4485 what?
Thats actually a racist comment
Didn't they create a new Category to give it an Oscar?
He basically explained in 8mins about this movie what I’ve been trying to explain to explain about it for the last 3yrs. This movie was highly capable of standing on it’s own two feet. There was no need to use the oppressed and black card
Fr fr
Why is it when black ppl want to bring up racial issues etc. in media we get looked down on us like we wrong for it.
@@smileymomod.4311 because we’re not victims and we are the only one’s that think we are
@@smileymomod.4311 because it doesn't support the narrative that the wokies are pushing forth
@@smileymomod.4311 I mean you can't change the past.The thing is the movie shows white people as colonizers and wanting revenge.You have to get you priorities straight ,choose you want equality and unity or seperation.Being stuck in the past and whining will do nothing good.
And it was nominated for an Oscar… My god, Hollywood is so out of touch with reality.
Exactly.. The Academy Awards have been slowly dying for years now.. and recently Hollywood forcefully took the Golden Globes along with it down the 'merit's overrated' road.
No they aren't. You see the Media only reports black news, black incidents with police, so Hollywood jumped on the OTHER me too train and began kissing A** at the behest of the rest of us that clearly see it... and look at it like do they think we are too stupid to notice the false on boarding?
And its somehow won the best picture.... a mediocre film won the best picture, what a lot of b*lls*it
@@smharyanto4660 it didn't
@@smharyanto4660 I did not win the best picture. It was only nominated.
"Progressive politics is the Joseph Stalin of our times, and everyone's so terrified of attracting its anger that they just kind of go along with the crowd and keep clapping. Because it's easier to clap until your hands are red raw than be the one who dares to sit down first."
Very well put sir.
Indeed.
I read this as he said it 😳
"everyone is so terrified of attracting it's anger that they just kinda go along with the crowd and keep clapping". Which is exactly what progressive politics depends on. Also, I think this comment is even better with the R. Lee Ermee picture.
@@M0rdFustang That happens to me alot. It's very weird...
What the fuck is wrong with this guy, Stalin was a dangerous dictators, this is a movie
I remember reading a comment on TH-cam, a good while before black panther was released. It was from an African guy. He said he hates the idea of the film because it reinforced a 'big man / tribal' culture, which in his mind was the cause of too many problems in Africa. Too many people looking for the big man to follow, with the big man naturally not being a nice guy, hence lots of conflict and the propensity for dictators. I wish I could have saved it, his words were more succinct. Anyway, black panther jumped right on it, the two big men fight it out to decides who is king, everyone else can either do as they're told or fight the big man to the death. I don't exactly see how this film is a love letter to African culture (not that there's a single binding culture in Africa), seems more of a slap in the face.
It's not really about african culture, though. Just americans projecting their own problems on the screen, using wakanda as some sort of "in africa things are better" -example, while the truth is vast majority of africa has things way worse than oakland.
It's difficult though because African/African american culture is so miniscule that you'd have to combine the few things they have to make a somewhat meaty movie.
I remember reading a comment from someone who claimed to be African. He said Africans don't consider all blacks African. It makes sense actually, since Africa is a place and not an ethnicity.
@@810wasaninsidejob9 - That wouldn't surprise me. I expect that given the chance, a majority of the whole African continent would happily swap places and be grateful to call themselves simply, 'American', for the rest of their lives. Must seem a bit insulting to have people from the most prosperous nation on earth, claim kinship with some of the poorest, yet never have the slightest chance of encountering their problems.
Yea anyone who believes this has anything to do with African people all believe in bullshit lies. It's only about "African" Americans and trying to make some sjw agenda for some people in that group to feel better about their heritage or representation in media or some other stupid media-made up reason. It does nothing for the people living in Africa, it does nothing for the people who actually suffer from discrimination, and it does nothing for people who just want to watch a great movie.
I said it right after watching it in its launch period, that I found it to be a fine superhero movie but nothing more - and people would shit all over youtube comments and praise it to the sky and anyone who didn't believe it was the marvel of modern cinema history were fools!! I hate using the term "sheep" because it's done to death with very shallow opinions, but in this case I will make an exception. Most people are total sheep when it comes to Hollywood and anything mass-media related.
I always thought Black Panther was definitely a solid MCU entry; I liked the movie about as much as all the other MCU films. The problem I have is when people insist that its the best MCU film of all time and that Killmonger is the only MCU villain you feel 'sympathy' for. (*ahem* Nebula, Zemo, Loki) Reason being, they almost point out that the reason this film is the best boils down to: Black Director + all Black Cast. I think I speak for most here when I say that most reasonable decent humans today don't see anything wrong with an all-black cast. The issue is when you rely on that tokenized diversity to claim that your film is so great, and by proxy anyone who points out its flaws as a racist. Black Panther was a GREAT film. But not the best. I'd give that to Infinity War. And of course, RIP Chadwick the GOAT
How is an all black cast ANY sort of "diversity", tokenized or not? People in modern America simply don't know the meanings of words. The education system is designed to make them dumb, and it succeeds.
Nah. Black Panther was a mediocre film. It was flashy it was entertaining, but it lacked substance, was incredibly racist (I'm not even white, I'm brown, and I was uncomfortable about all the racist shit they said towards white people in this movie, not to mention the monotone representation of Africa, a goddamn Continent!!).
Dude was in one overrated movie, how was he the GOAT again? Lmaoo
@@centemochente6922 Just an expression. like when you tell multiple people after they help you, "Aw you're the best"
@@centemochente6922 chadwick isn't only known for black panther dipshit..
I've been reading movie critics for around 25 years. Film criticism was one of the first things I read regularly after learning to read.
I agree with this vid. Never have I read so many fake movie reviews in my life as I did when black panther came out. Thanks for the Stalin analogy. It really is true. Thanks for being a movie critic without an ax to grind, and for your general courage in confronting our crappy culture in this arena.
It's really not but you're too stupid to agree with the drinker
In many ways I do agree the hype was forced and the praise did not match the product. But it did do a couple things better than the average mcu movie. Doesn’t make it anywhere near a masterpiece but it did feel like they gave more of an effort to make a workable fantasy movie than say Age of Ultron or Ant Man 2.
I am black....i told my friends Black panther was a racism piece i was basically cancelled
True
Can we call out end game for being terrible. Wasn’t good just a tug on the heart with character deaths.🤷🏽♂️
Not just MCU, its one of the most over-rated movies of all time.
Hereditary is up there, as well.
gameplayx get out was too
What about Get Out?
And the Shape Of Water.
The Jazz King shape of water was a great movie.
I liked black Panther in civil war more than in his own movie
Yeah, that's my point of view as well
I think its cause he actually had a good character arc in Civil War... In Black Panther its like they didn’t know what to do
@@carlonilo9381 Yeah, that's my impression as well. I think sometimes creators are offered jobs that they don't know what to do with it but at the same time it's too good to pass up. So you end up with a muddled film.
Yeah he really did not need a damn origin movie. There's a few that did not need it
Cause he was a man in Civil War, in his own movie he basically had to take a backseat to everyone else.
It's inspiring to see the presentation difference Drinker later achieved with the theatrical Drunken persona. Even though this earlier content is just as smart, it hits home so much harder with the thick drunken delivery. Interesting to feel the effect.
Killmonger: "Throw me in the ocean, like my ancestors who choose death over slavery."
Dude, your ancestor were royal, and you went all over the world killing people who didn't do anything bad to you.
Didn’t his dad meet a normal African American and tied the knot and etc.? Because imo he’s technically right. I do agree though that it’s also odd considering he’s literally royal.
@@AWildRaito You're right, his mother was American, I misremember that. Still, that doesn't mean her ancestors were slaves (maybe her parents moved to US when she was young, but OK, I don't have to nitpick).
For all we know Wankanda (continental African country) could have been the one selling slaves to the European, which is historical fact
@@vonb2792 That's actually possible since that was the case irl lmao.
Royal aka the guys selling the slaves.
It's so weird to me how everyone just forgot about the Blade movies with Wesley Snipes that came out goddamn 20 years earlier, when this came out.
@@tmass1 what a heap of strawmen. Name one person whose ever claimed any of that. What hadn't happened prior to Black Panther was an afro-centric superhero movie that dealt with themes of colonialism (which Blade did none of).
wow one marvel movie that has a black protagonist out of the tens of marvel movies with a white protagonist!!! how dare black people complain about representation, they got one black why should they ask for more 😡😡😡
yeah but this movie had a bigger cultural impact because of it addressed the African heritage of the diaspora.
And Yet I would attest the Blade Movies were good. They were ONLY good because of Snipes. Someone else (like the next actor with the bald head that did the side project of blade) would have ruined it.
@@raynwolfsbane2084 Because ALL of the critical praise about Black Panther was about it being "the first superhero movie with a Black hero" - which was actually Blade. Not to mention several OTHER superhero movies since with black lead characters. NO, they weren't Africans, but they WERE black (which was what the critics had stated). That is why the person made the comment and why all of the critique was incorrect and so utterly sycophantic (but totally Woke).
Absolutely one of the most overrated movies ever.
It is better than star wars.
@@chukanwanna1816 Nah.
Junk Science yes.
@@solidsnake4655 Haha I want what ever you're smoking if you believe Black Panther is better than the original Star Wars.
Spartan 69 no i was thinking about the trash last 3 movies. You cant compare BP with the original SW
Hearing Drinker's old outro right now compared to the outro he has nowadays is so fucking funny
During Black Panther’s climax it was the straight-white-American-man-Air Force Vet who saved the day by shooting down ships with Vibranium weapons while the entire black cast was engaged in a violent Black-on-Black tribal war.
That’s a pretty stunning realization that critics/reviewers missed b/c they were so in love with the hype about Black Panther’s strong women and black superheroes and the wisdom/technology of Wakanda.
HA-larious! 😂🤣😅
That’s a very valid point, ohhhh the irony.
He is a hobbit though.
Exactly, even in a black superhero movie with a 98% black cast, a white saviour is still squeezed in, yet all these triggered snowflakes are still complaining about there being too many black people on their TV screens. It's sad.
dan the man It was the most realistic depiction of modern life today in the entire movie.
Its almost as if all humanity forgot about the existence of Blade to surf a political wave for clout.
More like they're actively ignoring it to maintain their narrative's illusions. The same way feminists refuse to acknowledge previous female heroes.
Mothman see how awesome you can make a movie about a black superhero when you're not concerned about making a political statement and moreso concerned about making a badass superhero with a persuasive setting and characters?
@@mikeycrackson blade was made before the MCU existed and has no references to it. The success of blade kicked off the current whole comic book movie era.
@@andrewwilkins7823 ye blade made alot of people realise that comic book movies could be dark and not corny films like the early batman's also i just fucking love how blade is a bad ass who just happens to be black and not a bad ass because he is black
Not really. Blade got his own movie first, but Black Panther was published first and MUCH more popular in the comic books.
Remember that Blade wasn't a "Marvel" movie. It wasn't MCU. It was a Wesley Snipes Martial arts vampire movie. A badass, legendary, defining moment in pop culture one, but not a Marvel movie. Marvel wouldn't put their cinematic intro onto it until years later.
It's not so much that anyone forgot about Blade so much as Blade was never seen as a comic book movie by anyone but the most hardcore marvel fans. And I'm sure those guys hated the movie.
I'm a black woman. I though the movie was "ok", and beautiful. I felt ashamed and disgusting at the time it was nominated fot the Oscar. It was clear to see the political influence on this thing. So sad.
What was beautiful then? You made no sense
The scenery and the effects probably. Just context of the movie itself
@@CodenameOliver101 The way the movie looked, stupid.
You hate your people .. end of story
@@CodenameOliver101 probably meant that it looked beautiful. I can admit, even with all of its flaws, this movie had some pretty good looking shots and scenery.
Its a terrible movie that made a lot of money because a lot of people thought they had to watch it in order to prove they are P.C. You hit the nail on the head. This absurd period we're in now with the media desperate to appease cancel culture is just like what went on in Stalin's Russia.
> we are vegetarian.
> one of our fishermen found him.
lol
He was talking about his family being vegetarian. Not the tribe.
Or he was joking
@@marckz06 Or it's a movie who's goal is to push an agenda and milk the shit out of over privileged American blacks. It's almost like they think blacks are dumb enough to fall for pandering. It's seems they think they could even get blacks to vote Democrat. Imagine if blacks voted for the party of slavery, the KKK, segregation and socialism. Wouldn't that mean they could be tricked into anything?
Pescetarian is a sub-group of vegetarian. Their focus is still on a vegetable diet (and likely healthier). Only some of the societies get angry (esp social media) and try to dismiss this. I hope those vegetables are non-GM and not chemically sprayed in any form, and that's recycled fish
Maybe they exclusively fish algae?
Vegetarians have this thing where they believe fish isn't meat. I can't tell you how many vegetarians I've come across that eat fish yet continue to claim they're vegetarians.
The critical drinker: Black Panther is the most overrated
Captain Marvel: Hold my purse 👛
CostlyChris captain marvel had nowhere near as much hype as black panther did
Jeremiah Crenshaw REALLY now? I don’t remember Kevin Feige going out of his way to highlight how important and impactful he is. It was just a movie that a certain demographic really embraced. That’s much different than the Captain Marvel phenomenon where literally no one I met in public actually holds it in high regard.
CostlyChris wtf how did my comment get here? I typed this on a completely different comment from this video lol.
The Real Snowy Black Panther is a entertaining movie to many. This video is for those that don't like it and still have venom towards some one year later (strange beef to carry but whatever) I have my theory as to why certain people can not leave Black Panther alone when you got another movie that's packed with the sjw stuff you hate and a lead actress that antagonizes the fans. All Black Panther do was exist and be successful.
Hold my purse hahaha
Your analogy with Stalin at the end was ackwardly fitting for our times.
Cultural marxism. Its fucking everywhere nowadays. This poisonous idea that people have to hate the country they live in, that humans have to work as some sort of ultra diverse hivemind with no real logic or reason. Desiring a big authority figure to tell them what todo, what to eat, what to feel. All this SJW bullshit is funded and fueled by communists who want to eliminate individuality and self worth in the name of "social justice" and hollow morality. Stalin killed millions of his own people, starved them, butchered them and yet if you ask most russians nowadays they see him as some sort of demigod. Even in death they still worship/fear him, that is how deep his poisonous ideals run. The far left is trying to do the exact same thing to the free world these days. They want the whole planet to be equal, equally poor, equally miserable, equally disenfranchised, equally starved to death.
@@bdlblob Oh please. The far leftist thing is going too far I agree but people like you just get too deep down some bullshit rabbit hole. Some global conspiracy nonsense, people are idiots and the world swings between far left and far right. Simple. Swinging back right now with Trump, Duerte, Boris in the UK etc. Calm down
@@caob1876 Who the fuck are you to tell me to calm down you fucking moron? I have the freedom to write whatever the fuck I want. You think government funded institutions dont force government interests in their educational programs? How fucking naive could you be? Ask any 20 year old in america what the problem in the world is and theyll say "urrr capital baddd, orang man baddd, socialism goood I want everything for FREEEEE". You are as equally deluded as the fuckfaces who complain about taxes yet vote for that commie sanders.
I imagine liberals must not have felt a whole lot different in the '80s or non-Americans in the late '90s.
As much as I love the Drinker & while I do agree with some points, but I can’t help think he was being a bit too brutally harsh on the movie. There’s way worse out there that deserves this treatment & it’s not a terrible movie, it’s a good watch
He's racist lol
Seemed like the drinker was sober for this one. That's a first.
He didn't even say _Geh ewey new!_
No amount of booze could keep him drunk enough to make it through this film.
I thought the same he sounds so different sober lol
This movie instantly kills any buzz.
Had to be sober, This was a dangerous thing now days to call out as mediocre. Free Speech isn't free in america anymore.
I’m black and I thought this movie was trash and overrated
I agree with you.
I fell asleep on it
Yes this movie was trash asf and way overhyped
Question for you. I'm white, and I'm constantly disappointed with the way white people in the media claim to speak for me, but never actually say anything I agree with. Is this the case for you with black media personalities?
Not even near an action movie, nothing interesting at all just bull trash
I'm sure there are things that you like that other ppl hated. That's the way of the world. Like assholes, everyone has an opinion. I thought it was good. It was def over hyped but from a logical standpoint, it was a fairly good movie. Far from trash.
LMAO The drinker has changed so much since 2019... "Thanks for watching, please like and subscribe" vs "Go away now"
Gu awey neuw
That's called having experience, and a channel that blew up :D He is one of the best on TH-cam though, if TH-cam didn't blacklist him, he could be heading towards Pewds levels... .. . Imagine Critical Drinker having 30+ million subs OMG, that's the world I prefer... .. .
The big difference is that he's sober...
@@psychonaut5921 He's just The Critical
Thats Jack Taylor for you, before his alcohol poisoning is getting out of hand
Hated the movie too, especially the "sequel"
As an African, I agreed with you analysis. The movie lacked a very sophisticated plot. The makers of the movie fantasied about African culture without actually STUDYING African culture (research power African empires and figures and merge it into the story of the movie to make it seem more realistic).
For me, the biggest problem with being a rich isolated African country is that it defies gravity. Historically, the rich African countries are the ones most integrated with European countries. The most independent African countries are the poorest. You can't be Strong and Rich _and_ be Independent. You have to _pick_ _one_ .
@@thuglifebear5256 yeah afro-futurism has always been silly. tribal culture (low-life) doesn't mix well with high tech. it's actually a common theme of cyberpunk stories, but that is appropriately dystopia, whereas afro-futurism is utopian. the genre itself is broken and silly.
african progress is an oxymoron
Eromasta6 depends how u look at it; western democracy is an oxymoron, africans just realised this sooner than the west.
Si Filey you need help and faaaaast. Unless you’re kidding which I can’t tell honestly. Help me help you read Jordan Peterson’s 12 rules for life. Thank me later.
Black panther was the most overrated MCU movie ever made
Captain Marvel: on your left
@James Merkle everybody likes it even the critics
Black panther is overrated becuz its popular thats it and it good and being metioned as one of the best thats why its overrated
But captain marvel isn’t overrated have u seen the rotten tomatoes?
zander Brumfield no a lot of people hate captain marvel
@@tsbredlight9481 wrong reply bro im not talking about captain marvel im talking about black panther
Good comparison with the Stalin and progressive ideology. Hit the nail right on the head.
Kinda funny they way americans were brainwashed to se Stalin as an ultimate villan and dictator who was feared all over the USSR and when he died people were sad cuz they were told to be sad ^_^ Jezzz... Even americas propaganda is something soviets could only dream about. Especially when you look at modern hollywood and media.
@@ardour4545 Even americas propaganda is something soviets could only dream about. - Oh please cut the bullshit. The reason people were sad was because they didn't know what the hell was going to happen to the country after he dies.
When all you've known is Hell, you're going to miss Hell when it's gone. That's just human nature.
@@ardour4545 Stalin murdered about 20 million people I've read. Doesn't that make him a monster?
@@michaellefort6128 Read where? Murdered how? By him personally? Who was counting? Do you realise how primitive dis lrolaganda is? By followong that logic we can come to a very curious cinclussions about leader who founded America for example. Wich tool did they use, how many natives died, and after that how many human souls were tormentet for US tk stack its core capital by using slavery and etc. This will bring us to the point that Stalin is a sweet teddy bear comlare to this. By does it reflects true historical meaning of events? Nope.
5:01 I always thought spears were for piercing but apparently they're more effective as blunt strike types.
The Gollum and Bilbo Baggins part got me
Yep - in a movie with a predominantly black cast, those two were the Tolkein white characters
Insert rimshot
The two best actors in the movie. Freeman and Serkis are incredible.
Creed and Gollum would make for an interesting sitcom duo.
What?
What’s your point?
Tolkien is a literary giant as respected for his profound story-telling skills as Shakespeare.
Every 4 comments or so there's a "this didn't age well", its a tragedy what happened to him but it really doesn't effect the quality of the film whether you like it or not 🤷♂️
Right the quality was universally praised and only right wing snowflakes who cry themselves to sleep at night disliked it
@@sneetchyboy9390 it was.... Alright 🤷♂️
Alex ico bull who runs the channel deleted my response
Alex ico you literally have to be atleast one of the following a racist, a dc fan, someone whos easily manipulated or just someone who has terrible taste in art and shouldn’t be taken seriously
@@sneetchyboy9390 can't just be a guy who didn't think much of the film no? 😂
I'm confused. I haven't been told to "go away now". HELP!
Not only did this wanker kindly wish us to have a nice day, but his accent is all wrong...
Whoa. I’m so used to your “Go away now” outro that I was taken aback by this one.