i made one of those spheres. it works! i plugged it into the cigarette lighter of my EV and i can now drive fore ever. the main traction batter never gets below 99%. at night i need a flashlight though to power the sphere. but it is a small price to pay.
Fingers crossed, fingers crossed... please let them say something about vapour deposition. I so want the operating principles to be based on smoke and mirrors.
They don't say it directly, but "ion emission" of the non-focused variety as they claim to be part of their magic infinite power hack usually _would_ be something you see as part of a vapour deposition oven instead. I think what they _meant_ to say is more akin to ion transport within a battery though.
actually from my experience, chatgpt would've done better, this patent has the "human made charm" that scam patents have had for decades, looks indistinguishable from those anti-gravity devices from the late 90s.
The patent was filed last year but has not yet been reviewed or granted. This tends to take 2-3 years, at least for US patents. I can't imagine it would ever be granted. It was probably AI generated and no patent attorney was involved in the filing.
It's a modern version of the Cups And Balls illusion. Investor money is made to magically disappear and then later change state onto a new Mercedes or a pretty nice boat.
ahhhh! "jetoptera!" lol, after discovering the fundamental flaw, they discovered investors money is good for buying expensive jet turbine powered RC planes... or sunpower, after reinventing the radial steam engine without a master rod, discovered investor money is great for buying yachts and overseas holiday homes...
Shereen C. Chen, Esq. is a practicing attorney in the state of Pennsylvania. I wonder what the state bar association would think about an admitted attorney being involved in grift like this...
Come on Dave. A 3 year old can figure out how these fancy balls produce energy. You supply 300 kW to the ball and when the ball burst into flames it produces thermal energy. Maybe it's a mini fusion reactor. 🙂
@@teresashinkansen9402 I think you cracked it. Plasma so hot it melts a hole through the space time continuum and siphons energy from surrounding parallel universes. As a side note. I bet their balls come with a warning label. "Do not leave your balls unattended as they may produce excessive amounts of energy so great that it could create a big bang event."
@@mikesradiorepair Oh please, Don't give them more bs to add to the already useless nonsense. 🤣🤣. Maybe you can re-write thier script. At least yours sounds more plauseable.😁😁
@mikesradiorepair The sad thing is you gave a better explanation of where the energy comes from than they did! At least you have a source, but they just seem to pull the energy straight out their ass.
Somehow I doubt there are many people that want a 10kW power supply attached to the smart glasses they are wearing on their face. Hey, what happened to Dave? I saw his obituary the other day. He hooked his solar balls up to his smart glasses and his head burst into flames. ROFL.....
Having read (actually granted and useful) patents on what an industrial laser can do with substantially less, including patented safety enclosures for said lasers, I do not want a 10kW power supply in the same room as myself. Add an active monitoring and automatic safety shutoff system if UV or infrared is involved, those things get NASTY real quick.
@@Photoloss i have a 20kw power supply in my room? at LEAST 20kw! um. i have no idea actually, but it does turn a log into a LOT of HEAT! iunno, everytime i light a bonfire, i wonder about just how many MW im actually sending up in a plume of hot air...
That patent was surely not written by a human. How long before OpenAI adds a clause demanding a cut from every patent ChatGPT writes, just in case one ever generates some revenue?
it was definitely written by humans, chatgpt would've done better than this. in fact, if you ask chatgpt about this, it will tell you it doesn't work.... even ai has standards....
It's almost like someone asked ChatGPT to write a scientific paper, then immediately tossed the results into the Shakespearean Translator, then ran the product back and forth in Google Translate half a dozen times.
From my comment on his other video on this: Cue Bon Scott... Well I'm upper-upper class engineering society God's gift to solar notoriety And I always fill my lab room The output is never small The IEEE papers say I've got The bluest solar balls of all! 🤡
my balls are always bouncing from the left and to the right... ha ha. its playing on the radio right now! (crucial velocity... a nice mix of old and new... and lots of rarities!) now all we need is skyhooks, "why dont you all get f**ked..."
Also a photon is absorbed by an electron to jump and "generate" electricity, so it won't bounce around a thousand times in a ball to generate more and more electricity...
Judging by the amount of times the word "What" was used in response to reading the patent, this is at least a 'kiloWhat' device..... They are on to something. ;-)
Might be pulsed vs continuous yield tbh. A 0.5s measuring period is way too long for an outright pulse laser to matter, but if any of the materials exhibits an effect similar to fluorescence or stimulated emission I could definitely see a discharge cascade outputting insane-seeming power over such a short period. Of course that output cannot be sustained for much longer, and the energy input required to re-energise the internal storage will be far greater than what you get back out. If they really do measure "heat" the energy might come from a phase change in the material. Ever used one of those liquid-filled hand warmers which turn solid and quite warm all of a sudden when activated? Yeah those won't power a flying taxi either.
@@GamingWithNikolas It beats me. I think it's similar to the outlandish claims in the Nigerian scams. The idea is to make it look so obviously like a scam, that anyone who still shows up wanting to "invest" must be a complete idiot. And then they are taken for all they have.
At some point, someone will realise they got milliwatt and megawatt mixed up; I remember BBC News doing this, and despite my contacting them; they never corrected the story (Tidal power generator produces 20mW of power)
Not a lawyer but I do work with patents, honestly this one doesn't look too bad, until they state the power output anyway. TL;DR: I think the tech they use technically might work, effectively running something like a pocket calculator LCD in reverse harvesting the absorbed light into electrical voltage, but even if it does work the power output is abysmal (ever see a pocket calculator run out of battery? Didn't think so. This would produce less usable power than the calculator consumes, per mass of "reverse LCD" material) Some things to note though: This is only an APPLICATION, not a GRANTED patent. It can still be rejected, and I would expect that to happen primarily based on lack of innovation. The first claim only describes the reflector sphere, which should be well known in prior art through some niche combination of more typical focusing mirrors ("homemade solar death ray", heliostat) and integrating sphere enclosures for lab-grade light detectors, which obviously do produce "electricity or heat" while in use. The later claims regarding power output will be tossed out immediately, there's a direct explicit ban on "perpetual motion" machines in the SOPs of many patent offices. The "word salad" is honestly pretty normal for a certain style of writing patents. Usually due to legalese, not "AI" authorship. Usually repetitive parts exist to clearly call back to previous claims in a legally airtight way, but without copy-pasting the entire full definition. I won't bother to check whether this is done _correctly_ here, but it seems rigorous enough at a glance. Doesn't mean any of it is _physically_ correct or useful though. Excessively specific or otherwise redundant-seeming dependant claims (#2-15) are also common. The key point here is that you are not allowed to add anything new to your patent when someone else later challenges it, so these claims exist as a fallback in case the primary independent claim #1 is declared invalid but the more specific claims are not, in this case you get to keep your patent protection on the specific claims instead of losing everything. Claim 7 might be an external reflective coating layer, _hopefully_ for total internal reflection within the material. Claim 8 seems perfectly normal, however the translation for laypeople is basically just "commercial glass". Claim 9 "liquor" is suspicious and not common terminology I'm aware of, but I don't work in glass manufacturing. The term is effectively defined within the patent though, so at worst I'd question the author's language skills. Haven't seen it used in the context of 3D printing either for what it's worth. Claims 10+11 is where we get some actual bullshit. You don't want "ion emission" in such a device, "Ampere hours" is not a unit of electrical _current_ but rather of electrical _charge_ (yes, Dave technically got it wrong too), and the whole thing is referencing completely different technological ideas compared to the previous claims. Claim 12 reads like it's based on auto-dimming welding masks or sunglasses, but basically in reverse. The "greater than unity current output" aspect technically is not an immediate slam-dunk rejection for "perpetual motion" as the thing is clearly still powered by external light input here. Nothing here explains HOW they produce the excess current though, so I imagine it could work in principle ...with an efficiency of like
Oh man, you clearly have a very poor understanding of electricity and tech in general. If you really think this reads like a proper patent, your customers need to find someone else, pronto! There is no excuse for the nonsensical wording in this patent application - it just doesn’t make any sense. The units are all wrong. They’re wrongly applied. The physical mechanisms described don’t just go against the laws of physics, they’re just unphysical in the first place. There is a huge difference between ‘patentese’ and ‘bullcrap’.
@@simontillson482 I think this _superficially_ reads like a certain style of "normal" patent. Even from a large reputable company that does not mean the contents are cohesive nor useful, but I doubt they're actually fraudulent. Unlike this one. And yes, there's no excusing the unit errors. Already commented on those. Physical units are correct in the original publications even when deliberately obtuse language is used. And in order to be useful the quantities are usually given in pretty wide ranges i.e. orders of magnitude, regulatory limits or concrete physical limitations.
Both the US and European patents are marked as pending. This over-unity stuff sometimes skates by an examiner, but the European Patent Office is usually really good at rejecting it fairly quickly. Plus, there is a metric tonne of prior art already cited. This patent application is headed for the dustbin
God, I love this. As a person with a bit of physics background I always think "what sane person buys this shit". But there seems to be a market for this.
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Amp-hours is unit of charge. 1 Ah is 3600 C (coulomb). BTW, is I understand the language of their patent correctly, their plan (but not what they show) is to have the sphere from some kind of **"smart glass"** material, where you can switch between transparency and reflectivity (on the inside) with electric current. Like polymer-dispersed liquid-crystal devices, where you use electric current to make them transparent. Not that it would work, and certainly you wouldn't get more power that the sun irradiance provides.
Part 1 gave me an idea, now Part 2 convinced me that it needs to be done. If enough people contribute, we can all get Dave a wonderful new piece of Test Equipment by the end of the year. One he doesn't already have, yet desperately needs! A high resolution, precision, meter capable of analyzing the level of vitality of an equine animal. With a red light and buzzer going off when the critter has passed on: a "Dead Horse" meter! This particular horse was rendered lifeless in Dave's initial 1 minute short.
@@EEVblogfun for a masochist! This is pure technobollocks and the people that made it should be in jail for fraud. Hope nobody here gave them any money!
If it's compact (about desk fan size) then I bid $2 billion. I don't even need a working demo, just say a few vague sentences about charging EVs and then I'll throw in a few extra billion to compensate your over-achieving efforts.
God bless you my friend, you really open my eyes I am speechless can't say anything Only I can say is Thank you By the way, my friend sent them email want to be their distributor in our region 😂 thank goodness I share your video with him till now he is in shock
I think I get it, why they mention Tungsten(VI) oxide so much - it is used as 'electrochromic glass' coating. Example - for windows or car's sunroofs which can be turned transparent or opaque while stimulating with electricity. Perhaps they thinking of 'catching' light inside the sphere turning it transparent then making it opaque? This is some crazy stuff out of 8-years old. Tungsten trioxide is also used in some 'phosphor' mixes with Ba or Sr, such as BaWO4
Yeah, I think the basic idea might actually "work" ...at abysmal efficiency and with an incredibly low power yield per mass of material used. It sounds like they're trying to charge a "fluorescent" material through the glass, then switch to the mirror state and use the integrating sphere mode to convert all the fluorescence light and associated energised material state into usable power (and into waste heat ofc lol). If the output electricity can be produced directly from an internal state change, akin to using a thermocouple between two thermal reservoirs as an electric power source but with light instead, then it might even technically be "better" than the obviously bogus idea of having your solar panel sit under a sunroof half the time. Needless to say even if any of this does work at all (and I haven't checked that) it still goes in the "super low yield energy harvester" bargain bin, and since this one relies on light input it will never be considered even for medical implants or deep space flight. I could see something very similar being used to measure the power of a pulsed laser beam in a lab. Emphasis on MEASURE because it'll sure as hell never be used to extract usable power.
I think you're overthinking it. It's more likely that it's LLM generated garbage, so it put in a "related" technology which uses electricity to manipulate light. I thought it might be a schizophrenic logorrhea, but it's too clean and precise.
Considering that there is a lot of talk about tungsten trioxide, I think that this patent has to do with the electrochromic effect and has nothing to do with photovoltaic systems. Tungsten trioxide is an electrochromic material, Li-NMC is the reservoir for Li+ ions, Li+ ions being essential for this effect, silver together with silicon nitride acts as a very efficient mirror both in the visible spectrum and in the IR spectrum.
The thing about the patent system is that it is purely an ideas system. To be granted a patent, all a person has to do is present a sufficiently original idea. There us zero requirement for it to be viable or functional, just original or sufficiently different from related ideas. There are plenty of ridiculous, impractical and non-viable patents that have been granted, such as a bed to assist in the delivery of babies by the use of centripetal force.
Note that that is a patent APPLICATION, no patent has been issued (and I suspect probably won't be) Interestingly, the application says the agent is Richard P Gilly of Archer & Greiner, but he doesn't work for them any more, he opened his own practice. One wonders if he was asked to leave after submitting stuff like this application?
Note that the document is a patent application, not a granted patent. With luck the examiner will be good enough to consign the thing to the bottom of a birdcage on Dulany Street.
If they can get more energy out than they put in, they should be receiving the next Nobel prize, or more likely they should be prosecuted for false advertising!
I think I understand - light comes in and because it's mirrors the light keeps on reflecting and reflecting and becomes a huge photon battery, then you use the 4Ah so the shiny insides become transparent releasing a whole day's worth of energy. It's all so simple really, what could go wrong?
Amp-hours is not a unit of energy! It is no problem to convert a certain amount of Amp-hours to a higer amount. That is done using a transformer. When you have a 10:1 turns ratio in your transformer (say a 240V to 24V transformer) the output Amp-hours is 10 times the input Amp-hours. Of course the energy remains the same because the voltage goes town by a factor of 10 as well, and the energy would be voltage*current*time.
It's obvious how this works, the stimulation current of 4 amp-hours (clause 11) at minimum 10kW (clause 14) comes from the power bank shown in part 1, ion emission starts, thereby circumventing the normal laws of thermodynamics.
Chat GPT 3.5 say there is such a thing as a current of photons... A current of photons refers to a stream or flow of light particles, or photons, moving together. This concept is often used in the context of electromagnetic radiation, where photons, which are the basic units of light and all other forms of electromagnetic radiation, travel in waves or pulses. In practical terms, a current of photons can be observed in phenomena such as: Laser Beams: Where photons are emitted in a coherent, narrow beam of light. Sunlight: Where a vast number of photons from the sun travel through space and reach the Earth. Fiber Optic Communication: Where pulses of light (photons) carry data through optical fibers. In physics, the flow of photons can be described by their intensity and direction, and it is fundamental to the study of optics and quantum mechanics.
16:25 This is what happens, Dave, when you let simulation people run a company. Looks like that was some simulation results (it was a "digital measurement instrument", i.e. a "probe point" in a simulation). From my interactions with computational groups, not many of them do the basic "back of the envelope" energy conservation equations.
Nice one Dave. Surely if there are numerous beams of light reflecting off of mirrors/lenses there would be interference and some of the light beams would cancel each other out, which would also reduce the efficiency (if any)
I asked AI what it thought :D "A sphere with a radius of approximately 10.9 meters covered in 20% efficient solar panels under peak sunlight conditions could theoretically generate 300 kW in one second."
I'm looking forward to grabbing a pair of these balls, so I can power my whole street. I will likely need a Solar F Roadway to provide the stimulation current, though.
maybe the creators did not understand that generally when mirror reflects light, its cutting it by 50%, depending on the material used. or maybe this is just randomly generated patent thing from llm
The way I understand the language, it attempts to describe a laser of some sort, with sunlight as the source. Which in turn generates ions and a potential difference in some of those listed materials.
Add 10w led lamp to the output and you'll have self powering balls. Infinite power! In all honesty, i'm pretty sure that majority of people have no idea what "AI (Artificial Intelligence)" even is.
10kW in one second same as 10kJ is 2.77Wh so presumably a single 3.7V lithium cell with a capacity of 750mAh. The AI may have hallucinated all that and so AI may have had a role in this. Writing all this fantasy takes some time so that is a good use for AI :)
There's no cross section of the shape shown in Fig 1a that could correspond to Fig 1b The only possible conclusion is that it's a higher dimension object that doesn't sensibly project to 3 spatial dimensions. Just like that in Flatland a digestive tube that passes through an individual would seem to require severing the organism into two or more separate objects. Therefore it must be totally a legitimate device that just can't be described in a way that makes sense to our limited minds.
Was feeling down in the dumps and unable to sleep, watched this and was laughing out loud at the end. Hope the neighbours didn't hear as it's 4.00 am UK time!! Oh that 'AI' chip, that's producing the 'Artificial Incontinence' part of the deal. (ps. Louis Rossmann called you out the other day on a battery investigation in passing). 🤔👍🤣🇬🇧
I wonder if, someone, somewhere, made a shitpost of "The power of the sun in the palm of my hand" meme from spider-man, they gave that as a source to chat-gpt for a patent, instructed it to include enough materials engineering to scare passing EEs and enough EE to scare materials people ... and also AI. And chat-gpt gave them a reason to stop saying it "hallucinates" and change it to "bullshitting"
I'm sure those balls are 3-D printed prototype look-alikes. And remember for use with a car battery. And anywhere solar or batteries are used these things confused because then they can be everywhere and they can be everywhere and they can make lots of money.
Applications are published separately by the patent offices, usually well before rejection and the published application stays up regardless of whether it is later granted or rejected. Not sure how you'd actually go about getting the publication of a mere application denied without also being investigated for criminal or national security reasons, maybe excessive use of profanity?
I think Ms. Esquire is the Patent Attorney. I don't know how they received a patent, but this has all the markings of a smash and grab scheme. They are out to take investor money and then dissolve the company while sitting on a patent that may give them patent troll leverage if someone builds something which uses _one_ of the materials, possibly with some AI stated in their patent. So, how might something like this really work? You invent a new material which is a partially mirrored surface which allows the external passage of photons, one way, at a high efficiency rate, and at the same time is for all intents and purposes completely reflective. I guess you'd also need to have a perfect vacuum in it as well. Then you'd use a photovoltaic material to convert the "captured light" to something usable, with the AI chip knowing when to alter the state of the mirror to allow a photon to pass through the mirror and then switching back to a mirror so as to not let other light escape. There are so many reasons this is patently false. I've got a better idea. Build a sphere with extreme mass and compress it into an almost infinitesimally small space. It will look very dark, but all light shown at it will be captured and stored for later. The trick to using this as a power source will be trying to harness the Hawking Radiation as your sphere slowly evaporates. We also need to invent how to create a microscopic black hole too.
This is a filed and published application, not a granted patent. It has not been examined at all yet. But one-way mirrors exist, even completely passive ones which don't require any switching. Heck a thin coating on regular glass will do the trick if you only want a table top demonstration. The issue is that the internal box requires a large amount of space while also incurring additional losses due to imperfect reflection, while ultimately still being limited by the aperture through which the radiation enters the device. Lab-grade sensors do use such things (see the "integrating sphere" Dave mentioned in the video) but for commercial power production it's currently cheaper to just build more solar panels, and maybe slather an anti-reflective coating on the cover glass. Single-photon-sensitive "light traps" are interesting for academic research, and I believe someone actually built/published one fairly recently. But the context was testing "Laplace's demon", a thought experiment on beating the laws of thermodynamics. As predicted the energy and entropy investment in switching the barrier is greater than the potential yield from increasing disparity between the two sides of the reservoir at that level. Or in layman's terms: thermodynamics still wins.
@@Photoloss one way mirrors exist. Check out my ruby laser. The problem I meant to infer is that it cannot be 100 perfect. Even just having some gas on the interior, there is no way to trap a photon. Not in the way they are trying to suggest and not as a way to store photons. I went on to improve upon the sphere patent _application_, trying to solve the physical limitations, but it is fighting windmills. The trap set, and why this was published in the first place, must be to try and capture IP by claiming prior art on a future patent, by infusing technobable about something like a battery, hence the description of elements and materials which might be used in batteries. Additionally, this could be used to take investor money. It's a scam which may have received more attention than they intended.
I see now where the AI is at. It wrote the patent for them.
It's AL not Ai but yeah funny. lol
Thank you! I am so happy this was the top comment because this is exactly what I came here to say!
@@Splarkszter AI
@@SplarkszterArtificial Lunatic?
@@BenBrandsame!
If you invest, Wavja money goodbye.
Nice 😎
i made one of those spheres. it works!
i plugged it into the cigarette lighter of my EV and i can now drive fore ever. the main traction batter never gets below 99%. at night i need a flashlight though to power the sphere. but it is a small price to pay.
Fingers crossed, fingers crossed... please let them say something about vapour deposition. I so want the operating principles to be based on smoke and mirrors.
Underrated comment.
They don't say it directly, but "ion emission" of the non-focused variety as they claim to be part of their magic infinite power hack usually _would_ be something you see as part of a vapour deposition oven instead.
I think what they _meant_ to say is more akin to ion transport within a battery though.
🤣🤣 Brilliant Dad joke!
That patent was 100% written by ChatGPT no human could cook up anything quite that disjointed.
actually from my experience, chatgpt would've done better, this patent has the "human made charm" that scam patents have had for decades, looks indistinguishable from those anti-gravity devices from the late 90s.
it's just machine translated, ChatGPT would do betteer
ChatGPT would likely get the units right (current=ampere etc) because it would draw from external sources which would MOSTLY be correct.
I think we're being trolled...... It's not April 1st is it?....
@@pipatron Not if it draws from other snake oil sources
Last time I got my solar balls out, FL state police arrested me.
You must’ve been at the wrong beach, then. 😂
Rookie mistake, you should've got orange balls instead.
Last time you sunned your balls you mean.
They also get burned by sun pretty badly, police literary saved your balls.
🤣🤣😂😂😅😅😅.....
its a known fact that you store energy in the balls
@@anactualpilot I concur.
That's what she said.
Chi power
P.I.S.S. is stored in the balls.
The patent was filed last year but has not yet been reviewed or granted. This tends to take 2-3 years, at least for US patents. I can't imagine it would ever be granted. It was probably AI generated and no patent attorney was involved in the filing.
It's a modern version of the Cups And Balls illusion. Investor money is made to magically disappear and then later change state onto a new Mercedes or a pretty nice boat.
Haha yes
ahhhh! "jetoptera!"
lol, after discovering the fundamental flaw, they discovered investors money is good for buying expensive jet turbine powered RC planes...
or sunpower, after reinventing the radial steam engine without a master rod, discovered investor money is great for buying yachts and overseas holiday homes...
Shereen C. Chen, Esq. is a practicing attorney in the state of Pennsylvania. I wonder what the state bar association would think about an admitted attorney being involved in grift like this...
Come on Dave. A 3 year old can figure out how these fancy balls produce energy. You supply 300 kW to the ball and when the ball burst into flames it produces thermal energy. Maybe it's a mini fusion reactor. 🙂
Not flames but Hot Plasma™
@@teresashinkansen9402 I think you cracked it. Plasma so hot it melts a hole through the space time continuum and siphons energy from surrounding parallel universes. As a side note. I bet their balls come with a warning label. "Do not leave your balls unattended as they may produce excessive amounts of energy so great that it could create a big bang event."
@@mikesradiorepair Oh please, Don't give them more bs to add to the already useless nonsense. 🤣🤣. Maybe you can re-write thier script. At least yours sounds more plauseable.😁😁
@mikesradiorepair The sad thing is you gave a better explanation of where the energy comes from than they did! At least you have a source, but they just seem to pull the energy straight out their ass.
300kw into a ball like 6 inches in diameter. How the Hell can that thing dissipat the heat when it's made out of silicon???
Somehow I doubt there are many people that want a 10kW power supply attached to the smart glasses they are wearing on their face. Hey, what happened to Dave? I saw his obituary the other day. He hooked his solar balls up to his smart glasses and his head burst into flames. ROFL.....
Having read (actually granted and useful) patents on what an industrial laser can do with substantially less, including patented safety enclosures for said lasers, I do not want a 10kW power supply in the same room as myself. Add an active monitoring and automatic safety shutoff system if UV or infrared is involved, those things get NASTY real quick.
@@Photoloss i have a 20kw power supply in my room?
at LEAST 20kw!
um. i have no idea actually, but it does turn a log into a LOT of HEAT!
iunno, everytime i light a bonfire, i wonder about just how many MW im actually sending up in a plume of hot air...
That patent was surely not written by a human.
How long before OpenAI adds a clause demanding a cut from every patent ChatGPT writes, just in case one ever generates some revenue?
I'd like to sic an AI lawyer on that AI patent.
Their lawyer are probably rushing to change their TOS to "all copyright belong to us and all liability belongs to you"
it was definitely written by humans, chatgpt would've done better than this. in fact, if you ask chatgpt about this, it will tell you it doesn't work.... even ai has standards....
GPT 1.0beta probably
The AI prompt for the patent:
"Write a patent for this product without using the word 'magic' "
It's almost like someone asked ChatGPT to write a scientific paper, then immediately tossed the results into the Shakespearean Translator, then ran the product back and forth in Google Translate half a dozen times.
You speak like some-one with experience on the matter.... ;-)
Honestly that is the most accurate description of thud patent I have seen.
Looks like patent clerks are no longer Einsteins.
I see what you did there! Nice reference.
Not since East (?) Texas' idiotic court making it a troll breeding ground.
This just reeks of LLM AI hallucinations.
No references to AC/DC "Big Balls", disappointing Dave...
From my comment on his other video on this:
Cue Bon Scott...
Well I'm upper-upper class engineering society
God's gift to solar notoriety
And I always fill my lab room
The output is never small
The IEEE papers say I've got
The bluest solar balls of all! 🤡
It's an entire reference to AC/DC "Ballbreaker" album :-)
my balls are always bouncing from the left and to the right...
ha ha. its playing on the radio right now!
(crucial velocity... a nice mix of old and new... and lots of rarities!)
now all we need is skyhooks, "why dont you all get f**ked..."
Also a photon is absorbed by an electron to jump and "generate" electricity, so it won't bounce around a thousand times in a ball to generate more and more electricity...
I'm sure these solar balls would look great on my Christmas tree.
A turbo solar encabulator at it's finest
I think my buzzword bingo card just burst into flames....
...like a bomb - or THE bomb, Dmitri... the hydrogen bomb!
They've poured in as many random phrases as possible, to maximise the chances of some future patent infringement claim.
Judging by the amount of times the word "What" was used in response to reading the patent, this is at least a 'kiloWhat' device.....
They are on to something. ;-)
I think their "heat measuring instrument" had the surface emissivity slightly miscalibrated. 😂
Might be pulsed vs continuous yield tbh. A 0.5s measuring period is way too long for an outright pulse laser to matter, but if any of the materials exhibits an effect similar to fluorescence or stimulated emission I could definitely see a discharge cascade outputting insane-seeming power over such a short period. Of course that output cannot be sustained for much longer, and the energy input required to re-energise the internal storage will be far greater than what you get back out.
If they really do measure "heat" the energy might come from a phase change in the material. Ever used one of those liquid-filled hand warmers which turn solid and quite warm all of a sudden when activated? Yeah those won't power a flying taxi either.
Goodness gracious, great balls of 300kW fire
What are those balls doing, micro fusion? Why do they need such a stupid high amount of energy?
@@GamingWithNikolas It's a skam so it's just all BS...
@akiko009 Well I know but still. How do they justify it? Do people just hand them money for litteraly no reason?
@@GamingWithNikolas It beats me. I think it's similar to the outlandish claims in the Nigerian scams. The idea is to make it look so obviously like a scam, that anyone who still shows up wanting to "invest" must be a complete idiot. And then they are taken for all they have.
At some point, someone will realise they got milliwatt and megawatt mixed up; I remember BBC News doing this, and despite my contacting them; they never corrected the story (Tidal power generator produces 20mW of power)
We are gonna look real stupid when everyone flies past us in their hyperspace cars powered by low poly golf balls
Low poly golf balls! Omg I'm dying
Not a lawyer but I do work with patents, honestly this one doesn't look too bad, until they state the power output anyway. TL;DR: I think the tech they use technically might work, effectively running something like a pocket calculator LCD in reverse harvesting the absorbed light into electrical voltage, but even if it does work the power output is abysmal (ever see a pocket calculator run out of battery? Didn't think so. This would produce less usable power than the calculator consumes, per mass of "reverse LCD" material)
Some things to note though:
This is only an APPLICATION, not a GRANTED patent. It can still be rejected, and I would expect that to happen primarily based on lack of innovation. The first claim only describes the reflector sphere, which should be well known in prior art through some niche combination of more typical focusing mirrors ("homemade solar death ray", heliostat) and integrating sphere enclosures for lab-grade light detectors, which obviously do produce "electricity or heat" while in use. The later claims regarding power output will be tossed out immediately, there's a direct explicit ban on "perpetual motion" machines in the SOPs of many patent offices.
The "word salad" is honestly pretty normal for a certain style of writing patents. Usually due to legalese, not "AI" authorship. Usually repetitive parts exist to clearly call back to previous claims in a legally airtight way, but without copy-pasting the entire full definition. I won't bother to check whether this is done _correctly_ here, but it seems rigorous enough at a glance. Doesn't mean any of it is _physically_ correct or useful though.
Excessively specific or otherwise redundant-seeming dependant claims (#2-15) are also common. The key point here is that you are not allowed to add anything new to your patent when someone else later challenges it, so these claims exist as a fallback in case the primary independent claim #1 is declared invalid but the more specific claims are not, in this case you get to keep your patent protection on the specific claims instead of losing everything.
Claim 7 might be an external reflective coating layer, _hopefully_ for total internal reflection within the material.
Claim 8 seems perfectly normal, however the translation for laypeople is basically just "commercial glass".
Claim 9 "liquor" is suspicious and not common terminology I'm aware of, but I don't work in glass manufacturing. The term is effectively defined within the patent though, so at worst I'd question the author's language skills. Haven't seen it used in the context of 3D printing either for what it's worth.
Claims 10+11 is where we get some actual bullshit. You don't want "ion emission" in such a device, "Ampere hours" is not a unit of electrical _current_ but rather of electrical _charge_ (yes, Dave technically got it wrong too), and the whole thing is referencing completely different technological ideas compared to the previous claims.
Claim 12 reads like it's based on auto-dimming welding masks or sunglasses, but basically in reverse. The "greater than unity current output" aspect technically is not an immediate slam-dunk rejection for "perpetual motion" as the thing is clearly still powered by external light input here. Nothing here explains HOW they produce the excess current though, so I imagine it could work in principle ...with an efficiency of like
Oh man, you clearly have a very poor understanding of electricity and tech in general. If you really think this reads like a proper patent, your customers need to find someone else, pronto! There is no excuse for the nonsensical wording in this patent application - it just doesn’t make any sense. The units are all wrong. They’re wrongly applied. The physical mechanisms described don’t just go against the laws of physics, they’re just unphysical in the first place. There is a huge difference between ‘patentese’ and ‘bullcrap’.
@@simontillson482 I think this _superficially_ reads like a certain style of "normal" patent. Even from a large reputable company that does not mean the contents are cohesive nor useful, but I doubt they're actually fraudulent. Unlike this one.
And yes, there's no excusing the unit errors. Already commented on those. Physical units are correct in the original publications even when deliberately obtuse language is used. And in order to be useful the quantities are usually given in pretty wide ranges i.e. orders of magnitude, regulatory limits or concrete physical limitations.
amazed you found a way to make a part 2 ... thought you showed everything needed in the first part
Both the US and European patents are marked as pending. This over-unity stuff sometimes skates by an examiner, but the European Patent Office is usually really good at rejecting it fairly quickly. Plus, there is a metric tonne of prior art already cited. This patent application is headed for the dustbin
That woo-woo material will be later called 'Dilithium'
God, I love this. As a person with a bit of physics background I always think "what sane person buys this shit". But there seems to be a market for this.
Amp-hours is unit of charge. 1 Ah is 3600 C (coulomb).
BTW, is I understand the language of their patent correctly, their plan (but not what they show) is to have the sphere from some kind of **"smart glass"** material, where you can switch between transparency and reflectivity (on the inside) with electric current. Like polymer-dispersed liquid-crystal devices, where you use electric current to make them transparent. Not that it would work, and certainly you wouldn't get more power that the sun irradiance provides.
How tf you get a coulomb qnd amp hour equivalence?
6:40 A.h is not Energy!
You have to multiply by Voltage for that to get V.A.h=W.h
Part 1 gave me an idea, now Part 2 convinced me that it needs to be done. If enough people contribute, we can all get Dave a wonderful new piece of Test Equipment by the end of the year. One he doesn't already have, yet desperately needs! A high resolution, precision, meter capable of analyzing the level of vitality of an equine animal. With a red light and buzzer going off when the critter has passed on: a "Dead Horse" meter! This particular horse was rendered lifeless in Dave's initial 1 minute short.
A.I. in this instance is abbreviation for All Imaginary.
"My balls light up completely"
-- Dave Jones
this doesn't even deserve the credit of a debunking video.
Define?
But it's (painfully) fun.
@@EEVblogfun for a masochist!
This is pure technobollocks and the people that made it should be in jail for fraud.
Hope nobody here gave them any money!
@@ahavelandif you want pain then watch ftfe (fight the flat earth) debate flat earth idiots. That is painful. Don't forget your facepalm protection.
It's literally low-hanging fruit. ;-)
Dave, Amp-hours is not energy, Watt-hour is !!!
I haven't laughed this much in years!
Indoor windmill, thoughts.
$1M on Indiegogo, easy.
@@EEVblogwould I get 2 million if it has nano technology and quad core ?
If it's compact (about desk fan size) then I bid $2 billion. I don't even need a working demo, just say a few vague sentences about charging EVs and then I'll throw in a few extra billion to compensate your over-achieving efforts.
@@whatnow9653 Don't forget to add AI powered smart energy optimization for an extra million more.
It could happen! Leave it up to chen!
Looks like a pack of expensive Christmas baubles.
Imagine throwing one of those 300kw/s balls at something!! MASSIVE DAMAGE!!! About a KILOTON of TNT by my back of the envelope math.
4.184 terajoules (1 kiloton TNT) sounds legit....
They went so far over unity they got an overflow and wrapped back around to 0.1 💀
God bless you my friend, you really open my eyes
I am speechless can't say anything
Only I can say is Thank you
By the way, my friend sent them email want to be their distributor in our region 😂 thank goodness I share your video with him till now he is in shock
I think I get it, why they mention Tungsten(VI) oxide so much - it is used as 'electrochromic glass' coating. Example - for windows or car's sunroofs which can be turned transparent or opaque while stimulating with electricity.
Perhaps they thinking of 'catching' light inside the sphere turning it transparent then making it opaque? This is some crazy stuff out of 8-years old.
Tungsten trioxide is also used in some 'phosphor' mixes with Ba or Sr, such as BaWO4
Yeah, I think the basic idea might actually "work" ...at abysmal efficiency and with an incredibly low power yield per mass of material used. It sounds like they're trying to charge a "fluorescent" material through the glass, then switch to the mirror state and use the integrating sphere mode to convert all the fluorescence light and associated energised material state into usable power (and into waste heat ofc lol). If the output electricity can be produced directly from an internal state change, akin to using a thermocouple between two thermal reservoirs as an electric power source but with light instead, then it might even technically be "better" than the obviously bogus idea of having your solar panel sit under a sunroof half the time. Needless to say even if any of this does work at all (and I haven't checked that) it still goes in the "super low yield energy harvester" bargain bin, and since this one relies on light input it will never be considered even for medical implants or deep space flight.
I could see something very similar being used to measure the power of a pulsed laser beam in a lab. Emphasis on MEASURE because it'll sure as hell never be used to extract usable power.
I think you're overthinking it. It's more likely that it's LLM generated garbage, so it put in a "related" technology which uses electricity to manipulate light.
I thought it might be a schizophrenic logorrhea, but it's too clean and precise.
Considering that there is a lot of talk about tungsten trioxide, I think that this patent has to do with the electrochromic effect and has nothing to do with photovoltaic systems.
Tungsten trioxide is an electrochromic material, Li-NMC is the reservoir for Li+ ions, Li+ ions being essential for this effect, silver together with silicon nitride acts as a very efficient mirror both in the visible spectrum and in the IR spectrum.
@EEVblog Sorry Dave. I couldn't watch this to the end, My bull$h1t detector was bursting my eardrums!
The thing about the patent system is that it is purely an ideas system. To be granted a patent, all a person has to do is present a sufficiently original idea. There us zero requirement for it to be viable or functional, just original or sufficiently different from related ideas. There are plenty of ridiculous, impractical and non-viable patents that have been granted, such as a bed to assist in the delivery of babies by the use of centripetal force.
Need to find pt1 now.
It's over there 👉🏻
Pt1 is just more the same.
Note that that is a patent APPLICATION, no patent has been issued (and I suspect probably won't be) Interestingly, the application says the agent is Richard P Gilly of Archer & Greiner, but he doesn't work for them any more, he opened his own practice. One wonders if he was asked to leave after submitting stuff like this application?
Note that the document is a patent application, not a granted patent. With luck the examiner will be good enough to consign the thing to the bottom of a birdcage on Dulany Street.
Dave really lost it this time i don't blame him. people will need therapy after reading their patent.
They found Tesla's lost notes. In the dark the DC current reverses polarity, though caution must be used as an excess of matter may be produced.
If they can get more energy out than they put in, they should be receiving the next Nobel prize, or more likely they should be prosecuted for false advertising!
That patent is "ai" SEO Amazon-style at its finest !
Use them as Christmas Ornaments... The best part, they can power the Christmas lights because they power themselves!
I think I understand - light comes in and because it's mirrors the light keeps on reflecting and reflecting and becomes a huge photon battery, then you use the 4Ah so the shiny insides become transparent releasing a whole day's worth of energy. It's all so simple really, what could go wrong?
Is it April 1st on the chinese calendar?
Groundhog Day April 1st!
Might as well have the Swedish Chef read the article. It would probably make more sense.
It too painful to try and even begin to make sense of the BS.
Amp-hours is not a unit of energy!
It is no problem to convert a certain amount of Amp-hours to a higer amount.
That is done using a transformer. When you have a 10:1 turns ratio in your transformer (say a 240V to 24V transformer) the output Amp-hours is 10 times the input Amp-hours.
Of course the energy remains the same because the voltage goes town by a factor of 10 as well, and the energy would be voltage*current*time.
Yeah, brain fart, my mind was in Wh mode from other solar stuff.
When you touch them... "A new hand touches the beacon!"
It's obvious how this works, the stimulation current of 4 amp-hours (clause 11) at minimum 10kW (clause 14) comes from the power bank shown in part 1, ion emission starts, thereby circumventing the normal laws of thermodynamics.
Chat GPT 3.5 say there is such a thing as a current of photons...
A current of photons refers to a stream or flow of light particles, or photons, moving together. This concept is often used in the context of electromagnetic radiation, where photons, which are the basic units of light and all other forms of electromagnetic radiation, travel in waves or pulses.
In practical terms, a current of photons can be observed in phenomena such as:
Laser Beams: Where photons are emitted in a coherent, narrow beam of light.
Sunlight: Where a vast number of photons from the sun travel through space and reach the Earth.
Fiber Optic Communication: Where pulses of light (photons) carry data through optical fibers.
In physics, the flow of photons can be described by their intensity and direction, and it is fundamental to the study of optics and quantum mechanics.
16:25 This is what happens, Dave, when you let simulation people run a company. Looks like that was some simulation results (it was a "digital measurement instrument", i.e. a "probe point" in a simulation). From my interactions with computational groups, not many of them do the basic "back of the envelope" energy conservation equations.
Not sure about simulation, I think someone produced this garbage through a whole load of over stimulation.😏
Nice one Dave. Surely if there are numerous beams of light reflecting off of mirrors/lenses there would be interference and some of the light beams would cancel each other out, which would also reduce the efficiency (if any)
10:30 I really like how on #16 they say "liquor" and not/instead of "liquid".
I guess someone was obviously p****d when they wrote that part.😏
Great Scott! It is a genuine flux capacitor!
I asked AI what it thought :D "A sphere with a radius of approximately 10.9 meters covered in 20% efficient solar panels under peak sunlight conditions could theoretically generate 300 kW in one second."
I'm looking forward to grabbing a pair of these balls, so I can power my whole street.
I will likely need a Solar F Roadway to provide the stimulation current, though.
Somebody watched the movie 'Twister' one time too many 🙄 Thanks Dave, this made my day .... as they say in Boston - You're a pissah 🤣
With stimulation, balls stores energy and can delivers half a megawatt.
Well known fact. You need two to make a megawatt.
The power is with these spheres, they absorb all light sources surrounding them to emit the light the absorbed.
You always crack me Dave
maybe the creators did not understand that generally when mirror reflects light, its cutting it by 50%, depending on the material used. or maybe this is just randomly generated patent thing from llm
If they are using tungsten trioxide, might I suggest they try tri-cobalt too? It worked for Star Trek...
This is the most amazing patent since the water powered generator
The way I understand the language, it attempts to describe a laser of some sort, with sunlight as the source.
Which in turn generates ions and a potential difference in some of those listed materials.
Give them a Nobel Prize in Physics!
Where can I buy this? I need 1MW power for my MP3 player. The headphones do not play loud enough!!
Is this just a LED pointed at a solar panel as the world's worst battery?
Could be dumber still, like a superconducting coil eternal current flow. Useless to extract anything out of it.
Add 10w led lamp to the output and you'll have self powering balls. Infinite power! In all honesty, i'm pretty sure that majority of people have no idea what "AI (Artificial Intelligence)" even is.
10kW in one second same as 10kJ is 2.77Wh so presumably a single 3.7V lithium cell with a capacity of 750mAh.
The AI may have hallucinated all that and so AI may have had a role in this. Writing all this fantasy takes some time so that is a good use for AI :)
There's no cross section of the shape shown in Fig 1a that could correspond to Fig 1b
The only possible conclusion is that it's a higher dimension object that doesn't sensibly project to 3 spatial dimensions. Just like that in Flatland a digestive tube that passes through an individual would seem to require severing the organism into two or more separate objects.
Therefore it must be totally a legitimate device that just can't be described in a way that makes sense to our limited minds.
The only way to rise output is to make use of more of the wavelength spectrum !?
Because that silicon nowadays is limited to certain frequencies.
I think the quality of patent clerks has gone down a lot since Einstein!
09:20 _"not going to conduct anything"_ I dunno, plasma tends to be a pretty good conductor of electricity.
It's only missing bluetooth connectivity.
It's got 1000ghz wifi but they are keeping it a company secret until ChatGPT is done with writing the patent for that.😉
Was feeling down in the dumps and unable to sleep, watched this and was laughing out loud at the end. Hope the neighbours didn't hear as it's 4.00 am UK time!! Oh that 'AI' chip, that's producing the 'Artificial Incontinence' part of the deal. (ps. Louis Rossmann called you out the other day on a battery investigation in passing). 🤔👍🤣🇬🇧
'This one is going to die in the ass."
So accurate & colorful.
I hang those on my xmas tree every year....now I know how my tree lights get power🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wonder if, someone, somewhere, made a shitpost of "The power of the sun in the palm of my hand" meme from spider-man, they gave that as a source to chat-gpt for a patent, instructed it to include enough materials engineering to scare passing EEs and enough EE to scare materials people ... and also AI. And chat-gpt gave them a reason to stop saying it "hallucinates" and change it to "bullshitting"
We have a word for that in Italian, we call it "supercazzola".
I wonder how gpt was used in the making of this salad.
I'm sure those balls are 3-D printed prototype look-alikes. And remember for use with a car battery. And anywhere solar or batteries are used these things confused because then they can be everywhere and they can be everywhere and they can make lots of money.
Lol the secret powersource for Spaceballs 1.
Use the Schwartz, Dave...
Looks more like a test of the patent rejection procedures. Was that patent downloaded from an actual registrar or from their own website?
Applications are published separately by the patent offices, usually well before rejection and the published application stays up regardless of whether it is later granted or rejected. Not sure how you'd actually go about getting the publication of a mere application denied without also being investigated for criminal or national security reasons, maybe excessive use of profanity?
There should be one more line in the specification.. "No wire needed."🤣
No mention of being bluetooth enabled? Missed opportunity.
the document you reference WO 2024/044280 is not an issued patent, but a published patent application. big difference!
I think Ms. Esquire is the Patent Attorney. I don't know how they received a patent, but this has all the markings of a smash and grab scheme. They are out to take investor money and then dissolve the company while sitting on a patent that may give them patent troll leverage if someone builds something which uses _one_ of the materials, possibly with some AI stated in their patent.
So, how might something like this really work? You invent a new material which is a partially mirrored surface which allows the external passage of photons, one way, at a high efficiency rate, and at the same time is for all intents and purposes completely reflective. I guess you'd also need to have a perfect vacuum in it as well. Then you'd use a photovoltaic material to convert the "captured light" to something usable, with the AI chip knowing when to alter the state of the mirror to allow a photon to pass through the mirror and then switching back to a mirror so as to not let other light escape.
There are so many reasons this is patently false. I've got a better idea. Build a sphere with extreme mass and compress it into an almost infinitesimally small space. It will look very dark, but all light shown at it will be captured and stored for later. The trick to using this as a power source will be trying to harness the Hawking Radiation as your sphere slowly evaporates. We also need to invent how to create a microscopic black hole too.
This is a filed and published application, not a granted patent. It has not been examined at all yet.
But one-way mirrors exist, even completely passive ones which don't require any switching. Heck a thin coating on regular glass will do the trick if you only want a table top demonstration. The issue is that the internal box requires a large amount of space while also incurring additional losses due to imperfect reflection, while ultimately still being limited by the aperture through which the radiation enters the device. Lab-grade sensors do use such things (see the "integrating sphere" Dave mentioned in the video) but for commercial power production it's currently cheaper to just build more solar panels, and maybe slather an anti-reflective coating on the cover glass.
Single-photon-sensitive "light traps" are interesting for academic research, and I believe someone actually built/published one fairly recently. But the context was testing "Laplace's demon", a thought experiment on beating the laws of thermodynamics. As predicted the energy and entropy investment in switching the barrier is greater than the potential yield from increasing disparity between the two sides of the reservoir at that level. Or in layman's terms: thermodynamics still wins.
@@Photoloss one way mirrors exist. Check out my ruby laser. The problem I meant to infer is that it cannot be 100 perfect. Even just having some gas on the interior, there is no way to trap a photon. Not in the way they are trying to suggest and not as a way to store photons.
I went on to improve upon the sphere patent _application_, trying to solve the physical limitations, but it is fighting windmills. The trap set, and why this was published in the first place, must be to try and capture IP by claiming prior art on a future patent, by infusing technobable about something like a battery, hence the description of elements and materials which might be used in batteries. Additionally, this could be used to take investor money. It's a scam which may have received more attention than they intended.