Saab Gripen E Cockpit - Sweden's 4.5 Gen Fighter Jet
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2024
- The Saab JAS 39 Gripen E is one of the most modern and capable fighter jets out there. Join me as I jump into the virtual cockpit of a Gripen E, fly some missions, shoot some BVR (Beyond Visual Range) and IR (Infra Red) missiles and engage in a medieval gunfight. While my shooting leaves much desired, I think I did well for my first sortie in this magnificent thunderbird.
Big thank you to Saab for giving access to their JAS 39 Gripen E simulator and their help throughout my visit! Saab: www.saab.com/
Gripen C/D and Gripen E are the main fighter jets of the Swedish Air Force (Svenska flygvapnet) and flies with the Czech, Hungarian, South African, Thai and Brazilian air force in either the Gripen C or Gripen NG variant.
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00:00 - Gunfight!
00:16 - JAS 39 Gripen E
01:28 - Take-off
02:00 - Navigation to the Danger Zone
03:33 - Radar, Cockpit and Wide Angle Display (WAD) explainer
05:34 - FOX 3! Firing active radar missiles: BVR
06:40 - FOX 2! Firing IR missiles
07:40 - GUNS! Going medieval (and failing) with the 27 mm Mauser BK-27
09:10 - Instrument Landing System (ILS)
10:46 - Landing: glide slope & touch down
13:04 - Outro
"Intuitive." Exactly the word I had in mind. The instrumentation and the way the aircraft supports a pilot's tasks such as maintaining altitude, tracking targets and other basic functions all seemed quite simple compared to older aircraft. Just the fact that many gauges have been replaced by the digital display and HUD is a huge boost in allowing the pilot to keep his eyes on the situation at all times. Very impressive technology!
The WAD (Wide Area Display) is Brazil's contribution to the Gripen E program, produced here it was supposed to be an intuitive, easily personalizeable screen that in the beginning was only supposed to be fitted to FAB's F-39E's (Brazil's designation for the Gripen E) but the swedish test pilots like it so much that the swedish gripens are coming mounted with them too.
Tbf its also necessary, aircraft computer systems and networking is becoming ever more complicated and capable. Its never gonna be easy.
This was an amazing episode! As a Swede, and Saab driver, i'm very happy to see them treating you so well!
Was a very helpful visit, learned a lot!
Well then you have nothing to worry about. Every time I walk into a Saab stand I'm very very well treated and I'm just a gopher. Tried both the -C and -E sims. Lovely machine. I'm still amazed at how the cockpit (stick and pedals) adapt to the pilot's size. Can't wait to see more of the E's flying around.
Thanks!
Seeing Christoph's expression as his eight year-old self in that simulation, I couldn't help but make a modest donation.
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it!
My jealousy is immeasurable, that looked like such an amazing experience! Seeing the progression of simulator training technology over the years has been wild, and I think we're going to see some really interesting stuff appear in the not too distant future!
Welcome to jas-39 Gripen e/f in Thailand 😊 Thailand love Gripen & Sverige 🇹🇭🤝🇸🇪❤️🙏💪
Really love the intuitive nature of the Gripen E's man machine interface. The situational awareness it provides is certainly leagues ahead of much of the unmodernized 4th gen competition and it looks pleasantly easy to fly and use.
Overall a very good showing for a first try but that gunnery though. 😂The single barrelled guns and the 100 - 150 rounds in modern 4th to 5th gen fighters is certainly demanding of efficient aim and training compared to the American M61 and their 400 - 500 rounds of 20mm.
A good video Chris.
The best part is that on my second try at the local museum (which has a simulator provided courtesy of Saab) I did some gunnery and suddenly was able to hit small trucks from the strangest of angles. Hitting a IL-76 - a plane essentially the size of a moon - from 90°? Nope. Hitting a truck going in circles at full speed, yes. I don't even know...
@@MilitaryAviationHistory Not sure what sort of call sign this would warrant...
@@cannonfodder4376 "Bushater"
@@MilitaryAviationHistory it’s the audience effect
Well.. the gripen have for some reason a enormous 27mm autocanon, so carrying more than 150 rounds is not really realistic.
The way the main display combines the navigation, radar, etc all in one place is incredible, such a wealth of information all in one place presented in such a natural, and as you said, intuitive, way!
It’s so nice of Saab to make time for this type of PR.
Not at all jealous... Keep these Swedish videos coming man, been waiting for them to drop.
More to come!
I like the HUD that looks a bit like the venerable Vigen, and the huge Head Down Display Screen. It looks quite well thought out and logical.
As a brazilian the WAD (Wide Area Display) brings me immense joy, since it was an addition we designed and manufactured for the Gripen E that the swedes liked so much it is set to be standard on even their models.
@@fernandomarques5166 That's cool!
Great! Another Gripen video 🤘
thank you!
This was amazing. When I saw a similar cockpit design on a community made module in DCS I thought it didn't look realistic, too game-like, but I now realize I was completely wrong.
Wow, what a great opportunity! Well deserved and well flown too! You're a natural it seems. Also shows what a great company Saab is. I so hope the Gripen NG will find much more export customers.
I just keep in mind that the ground has a KDR of 1.0 and stay away from it unless they give me ILS ;)
@@MilitaryAviationHistory Well done nonetheless. As former infantry I once managed to trash our APC by turning too hard in soft sand and drive it off its tracks, so nothing but sheer admiration from my part. And a stark reminder never to put a delicate fighter aircraft in the hands of hooligan grunts, ever. Love your series, including the 'academic episodes' and hope you'll get into many more of this kind of adventures. Cheers from the Netherlands!
It will need the Swedish government to be more helpful for Gripen to find more customers.
There is one potential customer that is looking to purchase 24 with a future purchase of over 200 more.
Question is, is the Swedish government willing to accommodate this and does SAAB have the capacity to build the planes and failing that, can they find someone to build the planes for them in the 5-6 year delivery timeline
@Military Aviation History Gripen was second, after F16, to get AUTO-GCAS (co-developed)
That was amazing. I love that they allowed you to show this to us! Man, this is so different from early 90's stuff.
Outstanding instructor!
I've been in a real A10 simulator with the dome video room and the real fusilage and controls. Flying DCS in VR actually looks better, but they can't have current aircraft in there. That screen in the Gripen is incredible.
Very cool. The Gripen is a superb fighter.
These have been really great videos. Thanks to everyone involved. The effort is very much appreciated.
Now this looks like something I could learn so much quicker in DCS than the F/A-18c. One large display>3 separate smaller displays
Gripen have a lot more automatic system than exist in dcs. Of cause that is needed when the pilot is really doing more information fusion than flying..
Heard from some designer of the E/F series is that it is designed to of load the pilot with having difrent more to help the pilot and automatically switching between them. So the pilot really only need to care about the data and how to get the gun on target.
its no sim but the stealth fighter in VTOL VR really gives you a great sense of the ease of use and pragmatism of these new gen cockpits. the tactical and heads up displays make BVR a piece of cake compared to previous gen.
@@TheDominionOfElites maybe a dumb question but can you play that game without vr?
@@PvtPartzz if there's no non-VR version of the game then no
that huge MFD screen is crazy
Designed by a brazilian company for the FAB gripens but the Swedish AF and their pilots liked it so much its gonna be installed on theirs too.
Its officially called the WAD (Wide Area Display)
Very customizable as well, only saw a fraction of the options really
“You can fire from any radar source” right there baby
That was all great to see! thank you for this one
In the country where I live, some business people equate pilots with bus drivers ferrying passengers. Pilots are NOT bus drivers. It takes incredible skill, intelligence, and fortitude to fly and land a plane to say nothing of knowing what payload or thrust to weight ratio actually means. It is one of the most misunderstood or under appreciated professions in the world. Awesome video.
Fascinating stuff. Thanks for sharing!
Fantastic video, hope to see more like this!
great video - lots of great insights - many thanks for it.
You’re the best of the best of the best of the best Chris!!!! This is too easy for an unparalleled genius like you!!!!
Letting that cargo plane go would be a bad idea, either it brings supplies or returns to base to pick up more stuff.
But fascinating episode! :D
You lucky bum! That was fun. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
😊It can't be easy to fly when brave men stand on your wings…😉👍Good work! 😊😍
such a fantastic aircraft, super underrated.
Cool Video: Outstanding Fighter!
Really cool video dude, looks like a lot of fun.
Very impressed with the grippen E.
The interface and displays look like I imagined they would when I was a kid- which shows how much the reality has caught up to fantasy. No low res, cryptic displays here!
Congratulations, interesting video.
This looks like a l ot of f*"kin FUN!!
Looked like a lot of fun. All those hours of dodging Bo in wt are paying off.
I miss watching you play, I'm sure many of us would love to see some gaming, I hope we get to see you fly again.
1:07 he was also in a M7* video on the Gripen's capability. M7* also has lots on videos dealing on the aerodynamics of the Gripen.
Great video! That situation display screen is amazing. I didn't realize how good it was until I watched a DCS video (Growling Sidewinder, F-22 Raptor Vs S-400 + Su-35), with the different radar and RWR screens. No situational awareness of mountains, rivers, or other terrain features. That could become even more relevant with non-anti-radiation weapons. Instead of having the HARM go after a radar that's turned on, have the aircraft find it and send a SDB to that location. I think they could further improve it with a 3d representation. Like a 3/4 view behind the aircraft showing you, the terrain, and threats, with drop lines from the airborne contacts to the ground, like a space sim radar display.
F22 and Su35 are a community mods and they use 80s F15 and 80s Su27 as a baseline so they absolutely do not represent the real planes. They are just basically F22 / Su35 visuals on F15C / Su27 module respectively. But neither the sensors nor cockpits or HUDs are modeled correctly. F18, A10 or F15E have all this information overlayed on the map too. But obviously, this is still next level.
@@misarthim6538 Indeed. The "next level" is what I was getting at. So a better comparison of the early-mid 4th generation plane tech vs what they can do now. A funny thing I noticed is that if the pilot wants situational awareness, their head is down in the cockpit. If they want to see their flight instruments, they'd look up at the hud. (Vs the visual scanning and "steam" gauges of old.)
That was really cool.
yay, enjoyed it like flying it myself ! :)
Feels very realistic. Greetings from Tunisia.
That’s the most focused I have ever seen you on a video.
Very good
I'm presuming that the simulator controls are not as detailed as the controls of the actual plane. Otherwise showing them would be as much a security risk as the plane itself. Or am I missing something?
The basic cockpit layouts are not 'that' secret - for example basically every major av trade show has some sort of cockpit demonstrator that is approved for the cameras. This one is similar to those. This includes planes that are new, for example I sat in a F-35 simpit recently and it was no problem taking some pictures. However, there are of course elements (and especially functions) they won't show - but those are not installed as you suspect.
I think the thing thats usually classified is stuff like advanced features, radar modes, etc. Basic functionality is much less of a secret.
The simulator is mostly used for interface validations. There is actually no need to show specified or verified performance (or capacity). Having said that, there are still a few display things that are kept under lock; some things you are not allowed to see if you are not buying. But, to answer your question: The HOTAS and the displays are more or less the same. What differs is some details and more complicated functions that are not available in the simulator from the beginning. The DEMO is not representative to the actual development status too, but the general idea is. It is hard work to create an "open version" of every release, so to a certain degree it is avoided.
Wow. Just wow.
Fascinating. The sensor fusion appears to be seemless!
Christoph looks absolutely absorbed in every aspect of operating this simulator. The instructor pilot looks very bored... 🤣
Great stuff!
This is just the basic stuff that kids do when visiting...
You never want your flight instructor to be anything other than bored. If he isn't, something has gone wrong.
Would love to see the SAAB JAS39 Gripen soon being operated by our very own Philippine Air Force,,it would very good addition for the Philippine Air Force's capability in defending and securing Philippines' territorial airspace..
Back in the Draken days the Stril 60 equipment was one of the things that was top secret in the cockpit.
awesome
🇦🇺 Fascinating! Job well done.
I would love for you to do another run in this simulator and see him explain the stuff he talked about in the end there.
Great instructor, stays on topic and what he’s doing and seeing.
The more I see of the Gripen, the more I'm of the opinion that this is the perfect aircraft for Ukraine.
Now I need to make that my desk.
Gripen my beloved
It’s almost a let’s play vid again after all these years
Awesome! I miss flight sims on my PC.
Living the dream.
Bet that would be fun to have in your living room. I'm jealous.
I'd love to have one!
I managed to shot down a Viggen with guns when I used the Gripen A simulator some years ago. But it was flying in a straight line so wasn’t hard to line up.
incredible that HUD is just like a modern version of the viggen's HUD in DCS xD
Awesome, flying passive and lobbing Meteor missiles at data link targets...
indeed with a global eye in the air u will get the targets :)
question does the whole cockpit move or is it fix in place and just had the screen move? also great video
I wish i had one of this at home :)
I was wondering about pilot culture and training around WW1 / WW2 era and thought you might know this. During wartime training could be a little rushed, so it is reasonable to assume that new pilots sometimes got into a panic state in combat. I know from when I took up ice hockey that the speed, complexity, and danger is overwhelming at first, and you get a kind of internal focus tunnel vision. Assuming the new pilot survived, how would they have been treated by their squadron? What if it was felt someone died because this new guy was not good enough? Would they be grounded, returned to training, ostracised or just told to do better next time?
Very interesting!
The HUDs sure have come a long way.
Having said that, I would have liked *much* less HUD clutter... the enemy symbology should be much clearer, more pronounced. In combat, you don't really need to see all that other stuff so much.
Lucky man! Seems like you did great. Nice video as always!
I would like to see the instructor in the cockpit 😊so we could see him hit the targets with both the gun and missiles.
wow..
That pilot doing the training has the quintessential jet-fighter pilot voice.
Grippen is somehow my favourite fighter jet.
Did you do any high G maneuvers?
Hey VKS, I hope you're watching, you might be up against these soon. Great vid bis.
all glory to the pilots, but I think there should be more appreciation to us in the ground crew from the aviation community
Comparing a 4th gen fighter with the older hybrid cockpits and no sensor fusion to this, is almost like a crossbow compared to a rifle.
Very interesting. I noticed that they don't have any backup displays. That's very different to most aircraft.
It has, any of the two lower displays subs as backup display when commanded by the pilot. In std they show secondary info like fuel, weapons, chaff, flares etc.
@@Ferpe2 Thanks for that.
I love that despite all the amazing advancement and sensor fusion, the altitude hold mode symbology still looks pretty much the same as in Viggen:-D
Oh my!
As a Swede; I'm jealous!
And also as a flight simmer! xD
Det finns en dcs mod med jas 39c gripen
Very nice
The plane canada should go with....
That Display holy Moly ! That's a IFR flight wetdream
The amount of custom they must be able to do as far weapons envelope 😳
Generic weapons, Every DCS player AIm-9M and Aim-120C
The Gripen is so underrated!!!
Having the bullseye overlay so clearly on that big HSI will be insane for situational awareness. I wonder if it’s possible to have a fox 3 launch and track a target without the radar emitting? Like purely guide it to pit bull via datalink from other radars only.
Yes, it is possible to guide an AMRAAM with someone else's datalink.
It should be possible with AWACS guidance, or buddy-guidance. And buddy-guidance can be used tactically - it'll trip red sides RWR and make them believe the threat is coming from a certain location, but the missiles will be coming from another....
Yes, he actually says explicitly you can fire it at any target provided by any source.
@@misarthim6538 The E RWR is so accurate and fully 3D that you can fire missiles on RWR info only, in addition to all the other sensors/ data link infos.
Even the JA37 Viggen could fire in silent mode.
The UI on the WAD looks different (better) than previous versions. The color scheme looks different, better usage of luminance to guide your attention. Did they mention anything about updating it?
The WAD display is a Brazilian improvement on the project. Made by a Brazilian company to meet the requirements of the Brazilian Air Force, the Swedish Air Force liked the idea and also implemented it in its new jets.
Did you have experience with modern jets in DCS or BMS before?
And does the gripen really have no kind of gyro gunsight or EEGS?
7:40 the instuctor tried to tell him something...
"Lock the radar on the target"
Gripen, as Viggen before it, has auto aim from radar - aimbot.
I wonder how a DCS player like e.g. Growling Sidewinder would do at this.
Nice! No helmet mounted display?
Not for the demonstration sim.
Not to be a fanboy, but SAAB is amazing.
ACK! Too bad you didn't discuss any details about the simulator. It LOOKS like a VDC simulator, but probably not because this is Europe. I used to be the Industrial Engineer for the Sony branded CRTs (for projection) that went into the VDC simulators. But it does look like a CRT based projection system.
Current most advanced fighter on the globe 💪 congrats Sweden its a true piece of art ❤
I would say the F22 is the most advanced, but this is quite close.
@@dimitarmargaritovif it comes to tech lastly updated f22 is at best on par with variant e and on top of that raptor cant carry meteors as gripen do
Is that the Gripen Pilot who performed at the 22 Zeltweg Airshow?
Used to be Peter "Starbutt" Fällén but I think his last was in 2021 so might have been the new SwAF display pilot that was flying.
If we now suddenly start to see Gripens all the time on the channel, We know why ;)
The only thing I think about is at night if the displays don't disturb with their light?
Well for decades already displays have a day/night mode so I don't see why that one wouldn't be any different
Before I watch this I just gotta say Lucky Dog!
is this a "show" Fox3 Meteor?
So… how much does it cost to rent the simulator for a weekend 😅
They may offer bulk discounts on bookings. Not sure though :)
But where’s Waldo??
👍
Perhaps this already exists…it seems to me the next logical step for the air to air cannon is for the aircraft to only actually fire the gun when the pilot depresses the trigger AND the reticle is aligned with the target…either by “release” or impact point, whichever mode makes sense here. If the aircraft can track a target, and the computer can display it on the hud, and it can calculate where to lead the target, why can’t it regulate exactly when the gun is fired (provided the pilot authorizes by pulling the trigger)?
Gripen has this, that is why the instructor asked him to lock it with radar...
From behind it fires when there is more than 9x% chance of hitting.
From front computer will aim the plane itself before firing...
TLDR - sounds great, doesn't work.
Because it's still only prediction based on the existing data. It's a probability funnel that says, if the plane continues to fly with current parameters on current flight path there's X% chance it'll get hit. But obviously, if the plane maneuvers, unless you can read the mind of the pilot, you can't calculate what he's gonna do next.
The pilot can anticipate that though and can shoot in such way that the enemy flies into the shot.
You also don't shoot only when the plane is in the cross-hairs. You sort of drag the burst across the anticipated flightpath of the target to cover as much area where he can maneuver as possible as well as to cover some last minute jinks or other abrupt maneuvers.
Gripen is a fine fighter platform.