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Hi. I am currently doing senior secondary school and about to go into college with subjects like accountancy,business studies,economics in school. How difficult will it be to go for a management information system degree ? I have no IT background so can I do it ? Will it require high level of coding or IT skills ?
15:59 what's the song Shane
Also you should not have to spend 5 years in university by the time you finished highschool we already spent enough time in education. By the time my kids are 25 years old I want to see them completely finished with school ,working full-time, and have 5 kids . Get on with your life . I know people who in school full time until they were 30 YEARS OLD !!!!
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Where are timelapses?
Gender Studies isn't just a waste of money. It can have a negative effect on job prospects. Putting Gender Studies on your resume could be a red flag to employers that you're a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Gender studies students are also a huuuuggee red flag, never date them, TRUST ME
But it's so politically correct!
@@JohnSmith-zw8vpit is a waste..... Unsless you make contact with teachers.... Or side up with organizations...
And it will ruin your ability to have a normal romantic relationship.
The Flashgitz feminazi video just entered my head
If I was hiring, "gender studies" would definitely kick you down the ladder
I was a profoundly lucky individual who bought into this lie, but just so happened to find math and physics the most interesting, so now I'm a data scientist.
Wow
Is business data analytics worth it
@@aena5995 I honestly don't know. My PhD is in math and I never took business data analytics.
Feel this. I was lucky enough to be into computers, so I got a CS degree and went into data analytics too.
@@wolfworks7339 Same.
I agree, only problem is: some companies simply won't employ you if you don't have a degree, even if you have prior work experience.
You're right found this 4x , in my life. Like that once I saw who I'd be working with, glad I was excluded. Seemed more of a pitty hire.
Joined military, got out, traveled around, worked, lived in 5 states. Am 50 now. Happy we'll adapted.
The part that bothered most was the chemistry grades , that I worked with , in plants and fast food.
There was a story I read about a woman at a law firm who lied on her cv saying she had a degree when she did not in order to get the job. They employed her and she was there best employee, hard working and always delivering good work. They only found out about the lie because they wanted to promote her and decided then to check her degree. They fired her after find out the truth.
@@samday414 That would not work for the jobs I have gotten. EVERY single one of my jobs has required official transcripts from me.
@@samday414 meritocracy my ass
RE:TheFiddle101. Yeah, companies have become so lazy that they have pawned it off on colleges to certify that someone is worth hiring instead of the companies doing their own research, testing and investigation to determine who is qualified.
If I owned a company I would much rather hire someone without a degree than someone with one unless the job was one requiring some technical knowledge. There are far too many students who are too lazy to work and are non-productive so they would rather get a worthless degree than actually go to work.
I majored in Media Studies because I was a huge fan of video editing in high school and when I told my guidence counseler that's what I wanted to do he basically just said "oh that's basically film, which is media studies here".
I learned some interesting things about news analysis which is *nice* to know but not worth the price. As far as my actual passion, they didn't teach me anything I didn't know in 10th grade from just poking around in sony vegas/after effects in my bedroom... I ended up making a solid career as a vfx/motion graphics editors, but not from anything I learned in college unfortunately. I think they need to be more upfront with students about what exactly you're going to be learning in certain majors.
Where did you work for and how often were you working? Was it project to project or?? I’m studying that right now and I’m scared it won’t get me anywhere. I’m from nj planning to go to CA for it.
I’m thinking of switching majors because of how bleak it looks. Any feedback helps lol
BRO, IM IN NEARLY THE EXACT SAME POSITION. Is there any way I can contact you for question? I'm currently a freshman at my state college, and the way you described you experience literally describes how I feel right now.
A Pro Tip :
If you want to do Geology, Environmental Science, Soil Science, Mineral Processing, Forestry etc dont do those degrees just pursue a degree in Civil Engineering then get a specialization certificate.
These fields are well covered by Engineering.
Geology is a really good degree for oil and gas though
@@kylegivey7368 Yes. Do civil or mechanical engineering for bachelors and geology degree for masters.
Environmental Science is actually a good major now though bc sustainability analysts/ sustainability consultants are growing in demand
My bachelor's is in Forestry, and I got a master's in Forestry, then now I am working in chemical engineering sector. Anyway, I got a full scholarship for all degrees I obtained. Sometimes it is about how you do with yourself, not about the system.
How about a degree in mining engineering is that good
I'm in a masters in psychology program and I hate to say I'm starting to agree with this.
Are you able to switch to counseling or social work? I finished my masters and counseling in order to attain licensure. But BS in psychology got me no nowhere :/
I feel like psychology is a good subject to take. But it’s a soft skill. You might be more patient or understanding or might develop valuable set of soft skills learning this but you might not be able to do hard skills like accounting, finances, taxes, etc. I think that’s why it’s a bad major. But from here in Thailand, most work requires soft skills so these major are well respected in here. There are HIGH competition though. For example, communication art is a well respected major here in Thailand. But it’s like, saturated and it’s very competitive. You have to be the most charismatic person if you wanna do well. So, yeah, there you have it
Im sorry for your loss
I am a clinical Social Worker, I don’t even take Interns with psychology major unless in their doctorate
@@leticiabeltran9274 I would have but since my degree is general I was told if I do it would be like doing another masters on top of that. I feel like I'm too far in. I'm wishing I would have stayed in nursing.
I know it's a long time ago, but a kid worked for me about 30 years ago in a mall. He was going to art school. His mother was a great artist. I didn't think it was useless. And it actually was valuable. He became an illustrator for high school science textbooks.
How many of those jobs are there?
Extremely small job opening for something like that, even less now beacuae things are mostly digital now
exceptions don't disprove the rule, for 99% of people an art degree is useless
@@Wano_9then the job would be the same… textbook illustrator but virtually
People fundamentally misunderstand what a degree is supposed to do for you; a degree is NOT a pathway to a job. A degree is a way for you to widen your knowledge in a specific subject, for you to meet new people, and to learn how to be an adult. Jobs like people with degrees because it's a guarantee that 1. they're knowledgeable in that subject and 2. they have the commitment to stick to something for 4 years. That's literally all there is to it.
Accurate video. I studied psychology and now I'm working as a low paid school counselor.
Who conned you to study that? Anyone warned you not to study that degree?
@@vincentc7920 no one, as an 18 years old student i was not familiar with job market, i thought psychologists can makes as physicians, i also loved it as i have a philosophical mind.
@@solidsnake5398damn I’m sorry about that I was literally just considering it because I’m always searching and helping people mentally is something that I would love to do but yk I try to do research before jumping into it
Where do you live?
I finished college 1 year ago and i make 3x my expenses, work only 12 hours a week and from home.
Granted that i choose to still live with my parents so that cuts many expenses, but i also don't push myself to work more than i find necessary, and i am undercutting the therapy market by a good margin, so i could make a lot more if i doubled my work and my price.
There is just that much people looking for therapy.
Good for you! Counseling is a worthy calling.
40 years ago, my Dad told me "college is fine, just don't let it interfere with your education". This thought has been expressed by many others at different points in history and in different ways and always rings true. It seems that a college education costs more today than ever, but its value seems to be worth less today than ever. Don't rush in.
Considering how a lot of elite colleges have gone. A college degree is an official certificate for stupidity.
Aaaaand, I have just stolen that. Thank you.
Well there’s journal access. And… journal access.
Your father has his opinions, but you are inaccurate in saying that the value of a college degree is worthless. It ties directly into market saturation and college now being see as the *must have, instead of it being a path you truly want to take. If you are basing your education solely on the amount of money it will net you, then you truly have no business going to college in the first place.
as the highest paid people in the entire West, by and large, have college degrees from the best universities in the world.
If you find you got a useless degree, just apply at an insurance company. They just require a degree to promote past entry level. Doesn't matter which one.
Agree.
Yes. I have a biz degree but we literally just require a degree. I'm 28 and make 6 figures
@Lenci Vargas may i know what kind of job you have that got you to 6 figures? with just your business degree
Yeah but who wants to do that, really?
@@jacobpickos733 it can be fun. I don’t work in insurance anymore but I uncovered an entire fraud ring operating in four different states. The FBI got involved, people got arrested. And it was just a rush of adrenaline. My mother still works in insurance and she makes $120,000 a year and she doesn’t even have a degree
I work at a university in the TV industry behind the scenes. I have no degree and no more debt (my house is paid off. I have been doing this for twenty five years. Every year we get new interns who look down on me, because I do the grunt work, know two different operating systems for computers, know several editing systems, numerous art programs for creating graphics (NOT bound by the chains of M!crosoft). People come. People go. My job remains the same. The person with the communications degree telling me what to do is always changing.
I got a useless degree and went on to a career teaching the useless degree.
Which is?
@@datboi5298teacher or professor
@@datboi5298 A pyramid scheme.
That's what it is@@cyancyborg1477
Got my undergrad in psych and worked in the mall. Went back to school, got my masters in counseling, got my license and now i have my own private practice making over 100k per year. Its only a waste if you have no plans past undergrad
so true
I would say it’s a waste if you don’t supplement your degree with relevant experience
@Nhan Vu with psych experience is mostly irrelevant unless u have a masters better if you are licensed. With only an undergrad you can basically only work in non profit with a masters no license you may be able to work in a school setting or as an adjunct professor.
Exactly!
Yes, Shane said that somewhere. That there are some degrees that are only good if you add graduate school.
My daughter was told her degree in English was a worthless effort unless she wanted to be a school teacher. With her degree she started off as a proof reader then as an editor then went independent. She has a long client list and is constantly busy. She get offered a full time job nearly once a month that she routinely turns down. The trick? Strive for excellence. Too many college grads cannot write a coherent paragraph much less a coherent sentence. That is why companies outsource the writing/editing of important documents to skilled independents.
My first degree was in English. I achieved the highest grade possible - in the UK that is an Upper First Class with Honours. I was invited to interview for jobs in the military, the civil service and industry, without having to apply, not because of the subject I studied but, as one interviewer pointed out, due to the fact I had demonstrated the capacity to achieve at the highest level and if I needed to learn new skills it was obvious I could. I declined the job offers and continued my education, after which I travelled around the world for a few years before establishing my own, very successful, business. While running that business I completed a Masters and then a Doctorate in Education, not because I needed to, but because I wanted to. I retired, comfortably, at the age of 50.
Welcome to the AI era
English degrees are not useless which is why it was not on the list. People who can write are needed in every company and as you said, an English major can teach...both english and ESL. It's actually one of the more practical degrees.
This is before ChatGPT... After ChatGPT4 is released, the world of writing/editing has been changed...
I used proof readers and paid them... until 2022. AI can do for free and better. Hope your daughter continue to strive.
A college degree is worth only what you choose to make of it. I'm one of those people with a "worthless" BA in History and I somehow still manage to earn a 6-figure salary. In 30+ years, I've never once worked a job related to my field of study. But I have written three books and a dozen articles on military history.
My SO has a General Studies degree and has managed to do okay for herself. She's spent 27 years as a teacher. She loves what she does and lives very comfortably.
One of my parental units graduated from a large university with a BA in Government before operating their own accounting firm for 35 years.
A childhood friend graduated with a BA in English. He made serious cake as an air traffic controller and retired VERY comfortably after a 20 year career.
Nor does a particular college degree make you "successful" in life. I know a guy who earned a law degree from one of the top schools in the country. He practiced law for 5-6 years and now earns a living selling crap on Amazon.
So please, stop trying to define people by what they choose to study...or not study.
I understand there are a lot of variables that are going into it, but I was planning on taking one of those "useless" degrees but I don't want to study anything else. Should I just look for any grad jobs after I graduate? I always see a lot of those tbf.
An exception to the rule doesn’t mean squat
And people shouldn’t study any thought classes in college because it’s contradictory to the subject like if someone wants to study philosophy or general studies gtfo of college because it’s not for free thought, they don’t teach you about conversatism, progressive,socialist, and communism only liberallism
It proved useless because you didn't use it or find a job in it, your success was not due that history degree, therefore it was useless, pretty simple
Clearly people studying history or gender studies degrees do not under statistics. it shows.
I liked this within the first minute of the video. My college experience was fun and minimal cost, thanks to the Army (I'm NOT saying go do that, it's just want I wanted to do). Banged out a Bachelors in 3 years, in and out. I used that degree for what I wanted to do in the Army. It's pretty useless outside and I'm kinda stuck working in that sector.
My guidance counselors in High School were absolutely useless and pushed many in my graduating class to reach for the most prestigious universities and many of these listed degrees. Many of those people dropped out with a ton of student debt.
My recommendation is for new High School graduates, go work for a little while, even retail if just for the social experience and learning from everyone's lessons learned. THEN pick yourself a degree program, start out in a Community College (criminally underrated), then pivot into a Four Year program.
Good advice. Good video.
Also: if you like art, do it as a MINOR, because that will lead you to constructive hobbying that can play out in some side hustles (COSPLAY construction ;) ), or if anything for fun.
Colleges need to be held accountable for pushing degrees that can’t pay for themselves
And for charging sh**loads of money for tuition and books when they get millions of dollars of donations.
More like the idiots who pay loads without any real plan for investment should be accountable for themselves.
How about kids learn to use a job search website.
They can even do this on their phone, now!
If there are no jobs being offered for the degree they "want", just don't do it.
If this doesn't scream anti-intellectualism, I don't know what does
Why? Seriously, if you are dumb enough to give someone money for nothing, then it's a you problem.
My teacher gave me the best advice. As a child, I was a natural artist (the class artist) but also blessed to be really good with the STEM courses in high school, and it was very confusing and complex to choose & commit to a career at 18 years old. I was trying to decide between an engineering (the more secure option) or a more artsy degree (seemed more interesting but had no promise of security). When I asked her what I should choose, she said, "Do what you need to do so you can do what you want." I interpreted that as "choose to engineering as it will provide the stability you need, so you can have the luxury to explore art or whatever you want (if I want)."
Looking back, I am happy I took her wise advice.
Now people are telling me engineering degree is a bad idea because it's oversaturated... I'm so lost😢
@@timelessutopia2840there is a lot of competition, but there is always jobs, you just need to find the one
@@timelessutopia2840I see the same thing. It seems like almost every degree is both good and bad.
dang, this is the situation i feel like im in. im leaning towards bio med, bio engineering, or cell / molecular bio. but it feels like everything bio related is useless without a phd or masters 😭i can see myself working in the marketing or advertisement side of a bio company, or someone who makes scientific illustrations / models biological systems?? or maybe i'll completely diverge and do pharmacy haha
@@tii2763 Dont listen to these people, my sister got a bachelors in mechanical and was hired by ford fresh out. Certain fields may be oversaturated so please please dont listen to these people and do some research!
The biggest things I gained most from college was 1. Being surrounded by multifaceted intelligent people (there were plenty of people who weren't, but the intelligent people kinda gravitated to each other). That network of peers I built 20+ years ago serves me well even today. 2. theoretical knowledge that deepend my understanding without necessarily giving any practical knowledge. I used the stuff you mentioned (whatever was available in the early 2000s) for the practical knowledge, but the theory is what I have that 99% of the people around me don't.
Agreed. Networking early on in life is huge, be it through advanced schooling, early entry into the workforce, or a combination of both.
Agreed 100 percent. Basically your brain grows, makes it more easy to learn, understand, analyse and interpret things. These 'things' might be in your profession or any other part of life
Good point! Seems like in 2023 we (society) equate a college degree to potential dollars earned. That can and is true, I'm an electrical engineer and my degree got me my first job. But the years spent earning that degree opened my brain to so many other ideas, subjects, things....I hung out with "artsy" students, voracious book readers, political radicals, gay students, liberals and rednecks....the whole college experience is bigger than one component, IMO..
Alas, 'networking' was not at all an ingredient in Kristopher's answer!@@thomasdahlquist7119
Totally agree. You learn academic discipline, how to write, how to theorize, how to research, you are exposed to material you never would have been otherwise, you have a peer group of people interested in the same material, and most of all, critical thinking.
For example, a Pop Culture degree wouldn't be about what T. Swift was wearing, but how we are all manipulated through pop culture, how data is collected by monitoring our consumption of pop culture, how it is used for propaganda purposes, etc. This guy makes a lot of good points, but he bypasses how critical thinking and theory can seriously grow your intellect. In fact, he is modelling very fact that not having those tools can make you miss important data and nuances, etc. Totally agree that unis and colleges are just churning it out. The whole structure needs a complete overhaul in the digital age, and I am grateful he is bringing that to light.
“Most of my friends are artistic” well guess what most of mine are autistic
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I’m sorry but with an art degree, your getting nowhere
@@ammarisrar2005unless you combine it with a psychology major maybe
and mine are acoustic
My brother got a degree in Journalism and minored in English. Ended up working for UPS for 30 years.
Sounds about right. I graduated in Information Systems and couldn't find a job in that and became a recruiter, Technical recruiter and then help desk tier 2 later on. While others who had crappy majors went to take my type of jobs in IT via nepotism and being in the right cliques.
Yeah, well I got a degree in philosophy and learned how to read and write, not just take a multiple choice exam. I have been a technical writer for many years and have had a successful career.
At least he can read and properly identify street addresses
He must not have had any idea what he wanted to do with said degree. My brother also got a degree in journalism, now he works at a school as a career counselor because it was incredibly hard to get into media like he wanted.
@@greenleafyman1028they want people to teach English over there
It's the language of BUSINESS
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My wife and I raised our kids in private schools in South Australia and could see that none of them are university material, so we encouraged them to get a trade , they are succeeding quite well and earning really good wages ,and they don't have any kind of educational debt
These days most college students, graduates and professors aren't "university material" either.
I agree, I have advised young and middle aged people to go to bicycle college, it runs 6 to 8 weeks you can work as an apprentice for at least a year at minimum wage or less. They make $25 to $45 an hour. I see people coming out of college with their paper and working minimum wages an trying to pay off their student loans.
Good parenting!
A friend of mine was a bartender 3 years ago. Some college. Very smart, ambitious and centered. He took a job as a plumber apprentice, and is now a journeyman making 80K a year and working on his masters, which will be $120+ a year. All in 3 years.
Only the useful idiots go to those 100K paper mills. They deserve to be in debt for the rest of their life. I have no pity for the silly, lazy and sub IQ masses.
Skilled Trades Electrician in US auto industry here. Yup we make good money. Making more than US congressman year after year is a reality since the great recession.
When I went to college in the eighties, there were many students in the College of Arts and Sciences that were undecided for the first two years. I went into Tech knowing what degree I was pursuing. I am still working in that field.
This video is spot on! And i really liked at the beginning of the video when you were discussing .., how people told you to ask your school guidance counselor to advance your life interests. Which I too experienced as early as 7th grade. When the GC told me to find a new dream. They are the worst resource ever.
For people avoiding degrees or careers they're interested in because of mathematics, don't, learning them on your own time as an adult and in a better environment is way better than learning math in let's say highschool
Math is everywhere, can't avoid it
Yeah, the problem is they overcomplicate math and expect us to be like some kind of prodigy human calculator lol
The main reason I didn't choose astrophysics. it's my dream career, but I'll try mechanical engineering first.
@VeiserexAB they dont overcomolicate it. Simply put It is complicated. If you think the problem is the teachers expect you to be a prodigy human calculator you are wrong. They expect you to be able to learn the complicated math. Your job later will ABSOLUTELY depend on it. As a kid i used to complain "when the heck am i ever going to need this stuff?" The answer? EVERY freaking day. Learn your math as early as possible. Pay attention and FORCE yourself to learn it. Its 10000% easier to learn it as a kid in high school than as an adult when you're required to know it in order to do your job well as an adult. I 10000% regret not paying attention more as a kid to my math teachers and this is coming from someone who did realtively well in math.
@@PJP1112 well good for you
My father got a bachelor's degree in psychology in the 1950s. He applied for jobs afterwards and in one interview he was asked, "You have a degree in psychology, so what else do you do?" He went back to academia and got his PhD, and became a police psychologist.
You can study law with a bachelor in psychology.
Why did he think he could do anything at that level with just the bachelors ? Glad he went back and finished his degree.
@@detroitfunk313 I'm not really sure, I never asked him. That moment happened some years before I was born. It was my mother who relayed it to me right around the time I began my first college courses as a part-time student, and may have been her way to get me to think more critically about what degree to major in.
@@mathiasbartl903
*You can study law, with almost any degree*
*Usually, people major in English or Political Science*
*I had to laugh, when I saw one Comedian(Jewish) said whenever you talk to a Jewish lawyer, realize you are talking to someone who couldn't get into Medical School*
@@mathiasbartl903 *During my under grad, I worked at the University(35,000 FTE students), trained as a "peer" counselor for prospective students*
*Tell them about Univ requirements ( Major+ GE + Writing skills exam,,,etc)*
*That's who told me English, Poly Sci*
*I always wonder if people with Poly Sci degrees are just Law students who didn't finish...*
*Like Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry....*
There is a severe lack of doctors all over the world. It's not easy though to get into med school and even harder to get hired. Biology if your trying to be a doctor is not a bad decision.
True too.
I'm surprised about the Hotel Management Degree. Florida State University has a Hospitality Degree that was very popular. Every hotel chain in the US sent recruiters to the school looking for talent. Since the 90s the number of hotels across the country has boomed. Orlando is the hotel capital. With all the hotels on the beaches the need for hotel managers grew.
Those needs are local. FL has many hotels.
I know they do. So does New York, Las Vegas, Chicago, LA, San Francisco and every major city in the country. Not everyone starts at busboy, dishwasher, and maid. A hotel management degree that can get you started at a higher level is useful.
@@axepagode33626 You want to be my manager? Without prior work skills? You start at the front desk, then assistent then maybe shift manager then maybe general manager. Most will be too stoopid, lazy or have other work defects to make it.
He probably looked at statistics for the whole US, very specific trends don't have enough of an impact on to influence the total
This may have a lot to do with a general oversupply of academically educated people. They may not have learned anything useful, but they still tend to be above average smart, and are capable of working their way up when forced to do grunt work to pay the bills. I wouldn't be too surprised if a lot of hotels and other rather generic businesses now have managers with some of these "useless" degrees, who just learned on the job.
I was never told college is the ONLY way to be successful. A college degree does increase the odds of being successful. Also, bachelor degree was never supposed to make you an expert meant to be employed at a high wage. A Bachelor's degree is supposed to give you some professional knowledge but more importantly the ability to utilize critical analysis for decision making.
What a joke. Most students gain absolutely none of this, except for the ones that are going to have useful skills anyway (engineering, computer science etc.).
This is a cope that perpetuates the scam.
A university degree is very useful and lucrative if your studying medicine, engineering, law, computer science ect. It’s pointless taking a degree just because you like the subject when you can self teach it as an extra curricular activity or interest.
It only makes sense for a rich person to study a subject as a degree for fun. The rest of us have bills to pay. 💸
@@willwooten95 Thank you for saying that!! You just made me feel a lot better!!
@@LevelUP84 Funny how if I switch the degrees around the argument still works. If you said something like music or art I would've totally agreed based on bias. But honestly, today you can learn anything online/on your own. University just gives you a straight path, reliable resources so you don't get missinformed by accident and the professors themselves can also explain any concept that you had been struggling with
a degree doesnt change your chances at all. the entire use for a degree is to either become qualified via credential or to look cool. there are no other uses for them.
I studied nutrition and dietetics for 4 years and had a master's degree in clinical nutrition. I couldn't find a job so I took a 3 months course on social media marketing. Now I work for a big company as a social media manager. I wish I knew what I know now back then.
@IAm Nana Nagatsuki If I didn’t live in a red state I would so get certified in nutrition through a online course and open up a business. Instead I’m going to just open up a fitness business and hopefully bring on a team of nutritionists
@@iBeautifulDisaterx3 unfortunately it's in Greek
@IAm Nana Nagatsuki i had my own business but I live in a small island with a lot of other nutritionists. Most of us work in another field now
@@stellapetrou are you still paying off your debt?
@@ll499 in my country we can study for free or pay very little like 10.000 euros
I'm currently pursuing a degree in environmental science, specifically conservation ecology. Unlike a lot of people my age, I've known for most of my life that I want to work in the field helping to protect and study ecosystems. One of the reasons I'm still pursuing this degree, despite biology as a whole being a risky major, is because the specific kind of field work I'm interested in is in demand in a lot of areas right now, and is really tough to replace with machines, so hopefully by the time i graduate I'll gave a higher chance of finding a decent career.
Hi!! I'm a high school student thinking about going into the same field as you, could you please explain a bit more ??
Very good analysis of psychology degrees!
Something to remember about college costs. When the Federal Government-backed student loans this was the signal to colleges to boost costs to students AND vastly increase the number of administrators. Colleges are now a mess.
Yes...colleges & universities have become real estate companies -
but students do not benefit from the profiteering - students pay University mortgage fees
"Game of Loans" is a good video on this topic.
I got a dual associates (double majored) in Psychology and Behavioral/Social Sciences and I'm so glad I changed majors when I transferred to university. I ended up switching to Business Administration with a concentration in Technology and Operations Management. I'll be graduating the Fall of this year. Best decision I ever made in college period. I don't regret it at all.
Just make sure you realise that a double major is not a dual associates, that would be getting two seperate degrees
@@milomitchener4166 Yes I realize that! But interestingly enough I was actually given two separate diplomas for both majors. That's why I said dual associates by accident 😅😅
@@Casso510 wow nice
Is business data analytics worth it
Do u have a job yet? Where do you plan to work? Asking bc I'm thinking about changing my psychology major
What you said about art school was so true.
It's a lot of money for something you could just get for free in online courses
For example: I used a free online drawing course for a few months and improved my anatomy significantly enough to make a portfolio to get into art school. I thought it would expand my drawing and make me more creative but they weren't teaching me anything useful. I attended for a bit before I withdrew as soon as I realized it was a waste of money. The proof being that I learned more in less time for free using publicly available resources
I have a bachelor's in psych and this is something that nobody talks about during your undergrad which, looking back, feels like a conscious ominous by colleges.
Fortunately, there are jobs that pay well in mental health that only require bachelors. Unfortunately, unless you know the right keywords to search, finding these jobs are damn near impossible.
With the rise and people seeking mental health treatment, you would think that those trying to enter the field would be given this information at some point but nope. Finding one of these positions is akin to finding every Waldo in a Where's Waldo book.
okay well, what are the keywords?
@@alyssayu5161 "Mental health worker" specifically "family-based" or "ESFT."
I wish i could save TH-cam comments
@@orion_paxx Why's that?
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I am grateful that my parents steered me into nursing. I originally wanted to major in psychology but my parents talked me out of it. As a new graduate psych nurse I make $41hr and only work 3 days a week and I love it. It is the best decision I ever made!
If I do a certificate in nursing assistant, will it be advantageous ?
@@sandrastella - A nursing assistant isn't a nurse. I was one in my late teens. Blood pressure, hang tube feeds, feed people, wash and dress them, bed pans.
It's rewarding. And back breaking, and no way up without further education.
@@christines2787 what about Emt? I'm finally doing emt
Nursing is not t that great Either with all the different personalities of patients you have to see . All the lifting and turning after Covid. Most nurses quit. U also will have to do night shift . All these degrees look great when you are learning about them because you haven’t worked yet when u start working it’s a hole other story most people end up going back to school . If your goal is to make lots of money u are better of buying a house and renting them out or buying a franchise. That’s what I did I am better of . Just buy buying real estate you will be ahead of the fame them most people .
@@AmanSS890 Can you imagine what life is like for people with degrees in Gender Studies or Lesbian Dance Theory? HAHAHAHAHAAHA
The most useless degree is the one you had zero interest in but got into anyway because you were told you could make a hefty salary with it.
Find the one that matters to you first. If there is not anything like that skip college until something does. If you never find anything then just be thankful for the money you did not spend.
This is very true even in the 70s I saw unless you got under someones wing in psychology you could not find work. I was in my late teens and eventually saw the futility because I wanted to go to school at night to afford college and four years at night for two years day school was a tough trade off. I tried it and it was tough - burning the candle at both ends and having a bad job during the day very discouraging - but I learned a vocation that gave me a foothold in the job market. Electricians and plumbers are in demand but these jobs are sold short and looked down on which is wrong. They are important trades but people are told college is the answer and in many cases it is not. To make things worse if you are a family oriented person and use their help for room and board food and everything else connected to human interaction and you go and live on a campus far away - the expenses are astronomical and you will be paying them off for the rest of your life-unless you have a part time job and get family help and even then you may still pay. Advice was poor for direction and still is.
I used to use “art history” as an example of useless degrees. Then the daughter of a friend got a degree in art history, and a job with a NYC art gallery.
I'm glad there are art galleries on every street corner of every city for thousands of other people with the same degree. 😂😂😂
I guess you never learned about anecdotes not being evidence.
@@AlienRelics ??????????
@@yabazyabacoffee They're saying that just because someone got a job with an art history degree, doesn't mean that everyone else would be as lucky
@@chiangkai-shrek1575yup
20 years ago, cluelessly, I picked electrical engineering not knowing what I should do with my life, turned out to be the best thing I could have picked for current times, I'm in the field of automation so the work experience heavily lean into mechanical and software engineering as well and there's always a shortage of people like me who are skilled in 3 types of engineering, I get head hunters every week asking if I want to jump ship for higher pay. I did that for a while but now I'm settled in and just climbing the ladder at one place.
ELECTRICAL engineering for CURRENT times 😅
Me to :)
Back in 1996 my then boyfriend studied electrical engineering at age 18. His first job was working for the Australian Bureau of Meteorology as an electronics technician. From that, he applied for a post in Antarctica with the Bureau and got it. He did two years at Davis base by age 25. He went to the US for a job, then to Africa. All with the Bureau. Its a great job to get into. I myself studied a master's in linguistics and have travelled the world doing interpreter work. I'm 53 today and am winding down towards retirement.
@@drc3po with all that tesla going on you know lol
@@williamlyons3947 no such thing, we be the ones designing and maintaining AI, plus we have to go to site and make adjustments on the fly which AI isn't capable to do for a long while.
When I graduated from high school I spent four years in the Navy. That was a very smart decision since going to college right after high school would probably have been a big waste of money and time. The Navy taught me discipline, life shills, and also showed me what I wanted todo in life. After the Navy I went to college with money from the Navy and graduated with an electrical engineering degree. That proved to be a very good choice and I’ve never regretted it for a minute.
Also how to storm the Capitol in support of Trump.
One of the best degrees to get!
@@draneym2003 What the hell are you talking about? What does a college degree have to do with Trump or storming the capital? Are you some kind of paranoid leftist?
Not all are suited with that life though.
@@draneym2003 Are you proud of childish snark? Do you imagine that remark witty and insightful? Good for you.
Biology is actually a way towards pharamacy or pharmacology path. It also helps get into a medical field because a person needs to have a college degree into that field. Communication degrees are very helpful in sales and marketing. Also, it is very hard to determine what college degree should be teaching. For example, accounting has very good job prospects and one way to advance is to get a CPA. However, CPA requires a university degree. Does it mean accountng will always be in demand and the artificial intelligence will not replace it or make it obsolete? I personally, do not know. However, some degrees are hard to find a job with. One of them I would add a criminal justice degree.
My nephew has a criminal justice degree and he is in medical sales and doing well.
@donald8354 , good for him, but his case only proves the point: he left the field where he was studying for and moved to another one. Is his work related to his study? I know some people who graduated with a criminal justice degree and every one of them had to work in unrelated fields.
The purpose for getting an undergrad Psyche degree can be for either getting a GPA at the end of it that is high enough to get into Grad school in any field OR it can be because you are determined to go to GRAD school for either a Masters degree or a PHD in Psyche and you want to get the prerequisites for admissions to a Psyche program finished.
Hard L on biology degrees. there's literally tons of labs that hire for biology. Maybe this is an issue if you don't live geographically near any laboratories.
Biotechnology & Bioinformatics are niche careers that pay well but is not talked about enough
Exactly overviewing biology because of speculating that technology will take over is a bad take. We as a species will indeed improve our tech. in the future but it will take a lot of decades until it will be considered to overtake biology. There are also many improvements to be made on our knowledge and utilization of biology that will also improve in conjuction with tech. improvements. Telling young students to discard the persuit of any field of science because it is "usless" in the eyes of a misinformed individual is very dangerous.
Lab jobs really don't pay much and you're just a set of hands. You're not driving the direction of any of the research. It's kind of the default for bio majors that didn't get into med school. Lab tech or high school science teacher
@@j2zel well u go ahead and keep thinking that and ill go ahead and keep making money with my bio degree. lmao
@@j2zel lab jobs pay 60k-90k median salary if you think thats bad for just a 4 year ba then you are crazy
My folks wanted me to go to school to work in IT. The thing was a huge portion of the people I went to high school with were going to do that. I decided to become a diesel technician. No one wanted to do that. Out of my class of 110, I can count on one hand how many became tradesmen. Despite my dad telling me I was making a mistake, it was one of the best decisions I had ever made. I love what I do. Everyone is born with a gift, I honestly believe fixing things is mine. Unfortunately parents and public schools do a pretty shit job at allowing kids to find what their gift is, they either are not given the opportunity to try things, or certain careers are discouraged. My dad was a self employed contractor, when he was younger he worked in a truck garage, and he did body work. As a kid I was surrounded by tools and equipment. He was always bringing home stuff for my brother and I to take apart and mess around with. I got my first wood lathe when I was 10. My brother and I had a side business doing woodworking and craft shows. The price tag of a college degree is quickly becoming so large that even in good paying careers the wages are not enough to offset the cost of the education.
California is full of incompetent "tradesmen" because shop classes have been cancelled and kids who could be good skilled workers are being shunted into worthless degree programs. Politics are behind this.
A trade pays. A diploma leads to burger king... A degree matters in the 1960s
That's tangible, niche skill.
Terry: But the price is still worth an 8 year longer lifetime on average.
The issue with schools is that being a teacher is (by the standards of things the economy needs) a pretty terrible job.
So you've got the people who are teaching useless things, for whom teaching is the reasonable pinnacle of their career.
You've got the people teaching valuable things who couldn't cut it in their actual field (your math teacher should be having money thrown at it)
Neither of these lends itself to giving good advice.
And while they can train teachers in these in demand fields, the best ones will get an offer that's a huge improvement on being a teacher and leave.
I very much appreciate your "digressions"!
Learned more in the first few weeks in the Army than a few years of college
While Shane is right about Biology being a useless degree in general, the key thing is this: You have to SPECIALIZE. Which is what I ultimately plan to do. With Biology, you can become a medical lab scientist if you specialize in that and you can also specialize in Medical Sonography if you get into the program and participate in the clinical and get your license/certifications. (AKA Ultrasound) Even though to become an Ultrasound sonographer, you ultimately need an Associate degree to work in the field, but for some people, it might work out,
A biology degree is a very useless degree but a specific degree off of the branch of biology is the way to go. I agree with this statement, it is so true.
They weren't lied to about college...they were lied to about the workplace, and what it really wants.
YES
And what it really pays. What are the numbers when vp and above salaries are removed from statistical averages?
@@flinch622Insulation of the upper echelons like always?
The ones that existed FAR before this faux populism about “earning potential” became just another means of divide and conquer among the middle class…
Trevor: Nope. Students did NOT listen during freshman orientation and did NOT go to the Student Placement Office for free, career development training.
Most peoplevwho have 15+ credit hours have lifetime free career placement benefits at State higher ed where they attended and 8 years longer life expectancy.
Graduates tend to expect jobs to come automatically like promotion from middle school to high school.
Promotion onto careers are not government controlled. People have to learn how to find job openings, apply, interview, and manage career. The best jobs are no longer listed on the public internet because many employers don't want trash resumes.
@@flinch622: In our County, $80,000.
As a retired rehabilitation counselor, you are sooo right about psychology!
I knew someone who owned a tech company. He said he learned it was better to hire an English major and teach them to program than it was to hire a programmer and teach them to write good comments on their code.
Lesson being, learn how to code, but also learn how to communicate.
I have a PhD in linguistics. It didn't cost me anything because my employer paid for it. It enabled me to get a job - teaching linguistics, which I enjoyed. Now I am a gardener and dog walker (my own garden and dog) as I am retired.
Where did you get your PhD in linguistics? I studied interpreting/translation in my Master's and have thought about studying linguistics too.
@@jackfordon7735 I studied for my PhD at a university in the north of England, although I was living in Sweden at the time. The university I would recommend for any postgrad linguistics course in the UK is Lancaster. Good luck with your doctorate. It's a long journey. but well worth it - especially when the letter pops through your door addressing you as "Dr" and congratulating you because your thesis has been accepted.
USELESS, REeEEEee!!! (joking)
My high school guidance council told me to find a job I wanted to do and call someone who does that and ask them what they would do at my age to get that job and if it makes money. That advice has paid off really well (I’m in my 40’s).
That's awesome, linguistics (especially comparative linguistics) is one of my favorite fields of study
I was the victim of college degree bigotry latter in my career. HS, 1965, I.Q. 142., guest speaker at MIT, Boeing, International trade shows (ITMS) , pertaining to devices I'd designed.
Motorola - 3rd interview - with regional mgr - potential project manager
Him - you need to correct your resume - dosen't list you college / degree
Me - I never went - HS only
Him - ummm - we require a degree for the position I'm offering you.
Me- Electrical Engineer?
Him - No, any 4 year degree will do.
Me - why?
Him (I'll never forget his words) It shows the stick-to-it-iveness, drive, and commitment we're looking for.
Me - 4 years Marine Corps - Sergeant - dosen't show the stick-to-it-iveness, drive, commitment , and leadership you're looking for?
Him - I guess it does
Me - So I'm hired?
Him - No.
Today I'd probably never even get the chance to prove my worth - 7 patent applications by companies I worked for.
Best teacher advice - senior year English - read the encyclopedia Britannica - EVERY BOOK including classics. Worked with me to eliminate slang and crutch words (ya know, um, ahh, like) when I spoke, and to sound educated simply by slowing down my speech - no motomouthing.
It worked - if you sound / act as people perceive an educated person should act they will assume you are.
Going to college does not make you smart - it makes you educated - there is a difference. Education and intelligence are not mutually inclusive.
It's amazing how stupid and blind some employers are by the way they hire people according to whether they check off the boxes that have little to do with their success in the role.
I've seen GPA requirements for ALL degrees as high as 3.5
A 3.0 from MIT or any other TECH school should be worth much more than a 4.0 from Neckbeard U.
"Some people are educated beyond their intelligence".
We've all known academic elitists who bask in their tier 1 pedigrees who are bereft of any critical thinking/ reasoning skills. It's aggravating.
Liar.
You are correct: in todays market the interview would never have been scheduled - hr departments are a repository of the marginally qualified [often relying on software tools written by people that don't really know their business or their customers]. You touch on linguistic skills, and that is spot on: a good vocabulary & writing skills are invaluable everywhere. Having worked with the spellczech dependant and phrasing impaired, it says something when a supervisor comes to me to vet some communication: their respect is solid.
@@Look_What_You_DidI agree.
I knew that was number 1, thank you Brother.
A friend of mine went to College to get the Social Security/Job Center off his back . He Studied Medieval History , he now stands around in an old Museum .
He's living the dream...
I got a degree in philosophy.. and now I'm thinking deep thoughts about getting a job.. 😁😁
(Sorry for bad english) If you do have a degree in philo, then live up to the intellectual standard and use the critical analytical tools you've learned to make it pay.
Philo=love
Sophia=knowledge
And knowledge, while being a curse, is also a source of power. In the case of philo, this power comes from being a specialist of knowledge itself and the ability to analyze rationally, influence and convince peoples/events around you.
A degree opens doors. These doors leads you to opportunities that you must seize whenever they arise. But you must be willing to risk and try and fail and try again. I also have a degree in philosophy. Don't blame your degree. If I could find a way to make it pay big time, so can you.
Good luck.
If law interests you, philosophy study can be good preparation for law school.
Ignore the naysayers.
I have a degree in philosophy too... and a career in a completely different field.
Philosophy serves me to this day. Part time work six figure income and complete control over my time. Critical thinking, convergent thinking, divergent thinking and creativity yielded wild results in my field.
I'm so glad I'm in the trades. Never had to worry about a useless degree and I'm paid to learn.
Yup, my plumber friend started out making basic wages of around $18 hr 3 years ago, and is now making $40. What a deal.
Exactly! competent plumbers, electricians, carpenters, builders and roofers will never be short of work. And most earn more that college professors with a PhD in 'grievance studies' and the like.
Good for you. Trades are always in demand and often offer higher salaries and better benefits.
@@tomclark8019 And they're generally better company in the bargain.
We need more tradesmen.
I agree and after my psychology degree I got my Masters in Library Science and retired in 2009 after a good career in public libraries . Also got a Masters in Public Administration as both Masters were paid by GI Bill.
Good advice! "Guidance" counselors need to distinguish between good fields for a bachelors degree and ones that are good only with a higher degree. I'm a PhD chemist and that's nearly the entry degree for my field. BS degrees are techs and always at risk from automation.
I enjoyed hearing you unleash your opinion with much less of a filter than usual.
Art degree holder here. I worked in art and design for 30 years (digital and print, web etc), no debt because when I went to school a year at Maryland was 4000 dollars. I eventually got burned out and now am working in a law adjacent field. But art degrees are NOT useless. Everything you see was designed by artists, from packaging in your grocery store to illustrations in medical books, to fine art, storyboarding, and especially games. It's one of the few practical degrees left.
@@brentpotts616 There you go, it's all what you make of it. I taught myself computer graphics including 3D and motion because when I went to school the Adobe Creative Suite, or whatever they call it now, didn't exist. Yeah I remember when Photoshop didn't have layers and was called something else. Ah the good old days of doing layout on paper. Well those days sucked! Computers revolutionized and continue to revolutionize art, including AI.
I think the key here is you need graphic art expertise. Fine art is oversaturated and requires a ton of start up effort to even have a chance. I can illustrate pretty good myself but then see the number of talented illustrators on Twitter/IG begging for work and I'm glad I didn't go the fine art path.
How employable are ORDINARY graduates TODAY who didn't get into the field years before they were even born? You're old and experienced in a field that (used to) reward that. Most "art" in a commercial sense is precisely the kitsch AI does so well.
@@brentpotts616 It almost seems that you have to have a different state of mind doing your work in graphic art and then do freelance or simply draw for a hobby if you want to draw the stuff that you initially started doing art for. Kind of like any job. How many marine biologists have to do water samples and chemistry instead of playing in a Sea World tank. You are indeed lucky if you land a job you love to go to every day. I did it for a few years but then the money ran out.
@@Comm0ut That's why there is such a massive artist backlash against AI. They see the danger indeed. I get it as it also borrows (steals) existing artist styles to actually generate AI art. Artists have to advertise online so can't keep their work completely secure, and I think AI works around watermarks.
Sometimes it's difficult to hear the truth. Thanks for speaking the truth.
When I got out of high school in 69,I had many choices. Join, dodge, or draft. I enlisted and got my draft notice while I was on a fire support base in Eye Corps.
I'm now in the middle of my psychology undergraduate degree program and I feel like I've been scammed. The good thing is it's a scholarship and I can be quite debt free anytime. The bad thing is that I have one more year to graduate and feel like I'm gonna waste it all.
with just a BS you can work in community mental health, HR, or research.
@@rockymaffitt3345 or UX
If you keep going to grad school on a licensure track you will be okay
Thats why i chose to only to do the it as a minor, not my main program
Same man, my exact story, no clue what I wanted to do out of high school so chose psychology, I’m lucky because of grants/ scholarships I’m able to graduate after this coming year debt free, but fuck I kind of knew it was a useless degree but of course my parents just insisted I get any degree at least and so that’s what I’ve done. I was awful at science/ math courses in high school, so didn’t exactly have many prime options for university degrees.
If I had to do it again, instead of getting a masters in social work followed by a JD and coming out with $125k of debt, I would have tried to become a plumber.
Yes, they make way more than we do with our fancy degrees.
I would suggest A/C work; it's the simplest and easiest job that pays the best.
@@mutteringmale yes but it's seasonal, even here in Florida where it's always warm.
@@chiarac3833 No they don't. Their median salary is $60k which is also around the median HH income in the US
@@chiarac3833 Tell that to the orange growers.
Please don't forget that not everyone can do physical labor or trade school, however. I'm disabled (severely spastic, had a stroke, badly impacted mobility and strength), so the only path for me is something in office work or academics. Which DOES require a masters. So it isn't a waste if you are locked out of the physical labor market. Just something to keep in mind. You do have to plan your degree carefully, but not everyone *can* start a business. Also, not everyone has the same intellectual skills for the same types of things either. So its not like that 100k could automatically go to starting your own company--not everyone's brains work the same way. I happen to be an excellent writer, educator, and decent data scientist, but I would be a total failure as an entrepreneur. Thus, that's a very college driven path. I've already acceptd I will be in debt for 30 years--it is what it is. Going back, I wouldn't do anything differently.
Communications major here...a few years into my career I restarted from the bottom in an IT job and over time worked my way up to managment. At no point did my degree matter, as in I didn't need it. Techical certs got me a lot further. Luckily I avoided college debt.
I was middle-aged when I finally knew what I wanted to do and what would make money. By then I was also highly motivated. I was 42 when I earned my bachelors and 50 when I earned my doctorate; I worked full-time. No, I don't have any of the degrees you've named here, but at 18 I did briefly try majoring in psychology. I'm 70 and feel sorry for young people today who are being fed so much BS by high school and college counselors; it's criminal.
Agreed, brother boomer.
I'm 57 still don't know what i want to do, by the time i do i will be retired LOL
Mysterion: The students get TOLD during freshman orientation to use the Student Placement Office for career development!
The students don't listen. They don't go look at the BLS Occupational Outlook Handbook or buy a cheap, used copy. They don't know they probably have free, lifetime benefits at the Student Placement Office, including the job bank.
They don't know 4 year degree holders NEVER have to be without work if they will teach full or part time.
They don't know to go to ANY city hall, county executive building, or Secretary of State Office and ask for the list of contract wirk to bid on.
I could spend lifetimes just listing the basics of career development options to people, and it is a thank less effort.
2 minutes out of my College Counselors office,I came to THIS CONCLUSION..... It was " Heresy" at the time and STILL is............
@@PossibleLifeLines The Placement Office at my university was useless. Absolutely useless. Did NOTHING for us. I begged them for help in the year after I graduated and hit a wall. They sent not ONE lead, reference, or anything at all; zero help.
After a year of college majoring in electronics I realized it wasn’t for me. Why did I have to learn philosophy and art history? Both were required for my major. I asked my dad about his military training as a radar tech. It set him on a life long career path. I talked to Air Force and Navy recruiters about options in the military. My scores on entrance tests qualified me for the nuclear navy school. I spent 7 years operating a nuclear reactor. When I got out there were thousands of jobs available in the commercial industry. 35 years later with a generous pension I find it was the best path for my family and I.
I went to two years of Electronics school at a tech school and they only needed 5 classes of humanities, pretty reasonable and as a state school cost was very low. I didn't even finish my degree but I make very very good money with it.
A lot of students feel misled and scammed by college. Nearly all recruits feel misled and scammed by the military. Glad you had a good experience, but there is a good reason recruitment is suffering so much in the information age
Nuclear power school is the equivalent of getting an AA in Physics.
"Why did I have to learn philosophy and art history?"
You prolly didn't. But it makes you a well-rounded person. There's more to life than your career
Because you were likely enrolled in a Liberal Arts program. In the old days when it was predominately the sons and daughters of the wealthy who were among the few who could attend University and it was desired that they receive a "well rounded" education which would teach them the elements of mankinds overall culture and knowledge (i.e. art, history, music, theatre, philosophy, etc.) in addition to the core courses required for the specific degree. And for that purpose it served well. And the sons, and daughters of wealthy families were not too worried about their financial status after college as that was already predetermined when they were born into wealth. Today the "liberal arts" degree has been pushed aside as more and more schools have programs that focus primarily on the courses related directly to a degree. We should also keep in mind that the purpose of a bachelors degree program is not so much to prepare you for a high paying job and instead its purpose is to prepare you for advanced study in your field of choice (i.e. graduate courses). what job you can get with only a bachelors degree is not so much up to the school as it is with the companies that are looking to hire people. Some will accept people with only a bachelors degree, others want to see a more advanced degree. The number of jobs available with just a bachelors degree also depends on the field you have chosen. A bachelors in electronics may find more job openings than lets say, a bachelors degree in snowflakes
Agree with the list and analysis. Upper education is just another hoop to get through and no longer a legitimate exploration into diverse subjects and thoughts. It was at one point long ago. Now these useless degrees and watered down ‘useful’ degrees don’t really set anyone apart except where used as a filter for institutions’ recruiters. Those truly seeking exposure to diverse disciplines and thoughts do it in and out of college, but through their own curiosity, effort, and choices. Basically through personal responsibility and ambition. And that is not taught at any school.
Glad my father guided me into a good degree path and now I’m an aspiring civil engineer at Texas A&M
And this is why I’m double majoring in Biology and Chemistry. It’ll help me get into forensics and med/vet school depending on what I want to do
no man, chose or chemistry or medicine or veterinary, and honor your commitment
@@lisbang Terrible advice. First of all, you can't get into med or vet school without an undergrad degree, and no, pre-med and pre-vet aren't actually degrees; they're just pathways to a graduate degree. And this person has decided that their undergrad degree(s) of choice will be bio and chem. Plus, it's always a good idea to keep your options open. Like Shane stresses in this video, most 17-18 year olds have no idea what they want to do with the rest of their lives. Choosing a path that leads to many other paths is perfect for such people. Finally, "honor your commitment" is such bs advice in general. It comes from the capitalist force that wants to keep us bogged down and feeling like we "owe" them something. You need to wake up and realize you don't owe the system a thing. Leave places, people, objects, ideas, and beliefs if you don't feel like they're serving you. Life is too short to waste your time somewhere that you don't like and is not helping you.
@@gymnasticsgirlie0647 sorry man, here in brazil we have a 6-year med degree and a 4 year vet degree, we don't need to do a undergrad, honor your commitment because most of the 17-18 years olds are undecided about their decision, you have to choose one thing and do it without regarding. You understood it uncorrectly and wrote an useless text.
@@lisbang Um, no? If you choose one thing and end up hating it, that is a pathway to lifelong misery. I understand what you are saying perfectly. Committing to one thing doesn't mean you will be happy in the thing, just that you feel stuck there.
I graduated UF in 96 with a history degree. I bought into the idea that my parents (who are both college educated) told me- Any degree will do. I interviewed with dozens of companies after graduation. I got ONE offer. Walmart. I put in a year and a half as an assistant manager before I quit and opened my own business. I shudder to think of what my life would be like if not for the opportunity of entrepreneurship. I doubt I would have even made it to Walmart manager- our store manager had a masters in finance from UVA. College has become a trade school, and anyone who cares about success will get a degree that prepares you for a real career. My daughter also went to UF and I pushed her toward accounting. She got her master's after 5 years and just passed the CPA exam last week. She works for a regional firm in Florida and makes over 80k a year after just 2 years. I'm very proud of her.
Same experience here. My parents were born in an age when around one in 10,000 people went to unis in their country. They got decent jobs with no difficulties, and their early managers treated university graduates like treasures. They told me any degree was good, but the problem was that I was in a time when about half the people got degrees. That obsolete piece of advice wasted me a decade.
Parents are often in a bad position to give advice. Firstly, their views are often decades old. Secondly, what they think is good usually coincides with what everyone thinks is good, and that means that the supply exceeds the demand. People who do research instead of relying on their own experience can give their kids a real headstart.
@@Y.Z-Au in my experience, parents advised children about what is safest, not what is best for them.
Your bachelor's would have taken you much further at Southeast Toyota or some other better than Walmart business, especially in your era. I know plenty of guys in corner offices and all they needed was that piece of paper, didn't matter what major.
Grandson has degree in History. Now has experience in pushing a hand truck and operating a forklift at Home Depot. 🙁
I have enjoyed a thirty year career as a software engineer without a single college degree.
For decades, I used to tell people to avoid going to college and just work hard and study. You just have to work in a field that is in demand.
My sisters used to chastise me when they heard me give this advice to young people. These days however nobody agrees with me more than the two of them.
Here is how I break it down. College degrees fall into two categories:
1. Relevant
2. Irrelevant
But the only thing a relevant college degree gets you is entrance to ANOTHER school. Another words if you want to become a nurse, doctor or stock broker, you need to go to schools specifically for those trades. And the only way to get into those schools is when they college degree.
So basically, the only thing a college can give to you is entrance to an actual school where you can learn something relevant.
It's a scam. It always has been. And in today's modern internet world.
You are insane to waste money going to a school to learn something you can learn by watching youtube videos like I do.
Well said
You hit the nail on the head with one of your first assessments which is oversaturation of the market. This is basically true for every single one on this list. The exception is the individualized degree, which has an almost non existing market, you would have to be quite the bright student to create a good degree. My guess is that those that do individualized degrees do not add the skills that could make them succeed like statistics and data analysis, as if you had those interests you would probably already have looked at the stats for the degree. The individualized degree is also the most worrisome, as it is the easiest one to sell as the dream study, but is also the one that is the least marketable.
Coming from a country where education is government controlled to some degree, as the government pays the universities, we do have some similar problems of some degrees ending up being almost useless. In general we do not have the same oversaturation as the US, yet it still happens. 26 % of psychology students are without work 4-6 months after they have finished their studies and still 18 % after 7-9 months. This is even with limiting the access to the degree through GPA equivalent requirements. Whereas Engineering has almost no unemployment, the amount is so low they do not keep the statistics, as the jobmarket is undersaturated with a lot of engineering degrees.
The problem is that we also see the idea of bachelors creating their own degree with different courses, at least it needs to be within the same field.
I distinctly remember day 1 of college for my mechanical engineering degree. The class was "Intro to Engineering" and included every type of engineering student (mechanical, electrical, civil, computer, nuclear, etc.). The very first thing that professor said was "good morning, you are not going to learn your job here. Your degree will teach you some fundamentals of the engineering and design process, a lot of difficult math and science, and some related lab functions. Your degree will show that you can learn difficult things and solve problems, but you will learn your job every day for the rest of your life." That was the first of many classes to thin the herd
If he's so self aware can he not change things up?
My engineering prof told us we would focus in our careers to 15minutes of one lecture. It wasn't exactly true but I understand it.
@johndor7793 no, he can't change it because he can't change the fact that engineering is a process and it is ever changing. It isn't a given set of facts we can memorize and be done
He is a smart man.
@@DownWithBureaucracy Not true. He can't change it because he would need to change the whole education system, which is near impossible to do. If it weren't for that, it could actually be possible to prepare someone for their job.
My first degree was a BS in Biology 😅 luckily I had a full scholarship.
How did you get a full scholarship?
@@fujimizuki9727 Europe... you know... UK. Ireland. etc.
Biology in my country is highly required for genetics, medicine and food research
@@XTheLolX301what is your country?
@@hattoraxu8957 Peru
Thanks for these videos. I really respect and agree with what you are saying and if young people would listen to you they would save themselves a whole lot of pain, time and money.
Thanks for watching!
This is particularly excellent video! 👏Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
If you want to make money with psychology, get a marketing degree it’s all about psychology, but you actually make money
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I have a BA but if someone asks where I got my degree I proudly tell them “Ft Bragg,NC”. That’s where I learned EVERYTHING that’s important in life.
I think at the bachelors level Psychology is a very flexible degree, you can translate it into so many other fields, but if you’re looking as psychology as a career you should be informed that you need at least a masters to start working in the field.
Finally someone who’s not bashing psychology. It’s what I want to go to collage for on a BA level and I also think it’ll be flexible to change I to HR or something else later on if I decide the field isn’t for me. People need to stop the hate. Just know what you’re going into, it’s not useless if you know how to use it right. Do you have a psychology BA degree?
What other fields? Gender Studies? HR is the most useless department of any company.
I got an engineering degree .. was not employed in my field at first. Got a job in my field for a short time and quit, as it sucked. I later worked in a high level technician position that fit me well. The degree opened the door, as it was a tiebreaker to win the job.
I was skeptical looking at the college I just graduated from, just before I decided to enter. What convinced me was that it had a high level of job placement after graduation, and the professors were mostly hands off. I was expected to take a general idea, get more specific, then flesh out full pieces of work. That independence made my degree into a proof of excellent work ethic, which I hope to take into any job interview
Back in the day when a high school diploma could get you a good job life made more sense. The strong push for college being a MUST was to keep people out of the labor market longer. My daughter wanted to be a paleontologist. We had a paleontologist over to dinner. He was head of that department in the museum. He said it's a job that is one to a city. Very rare. She went into insurance and is doing well. Look before you leap is the best advice here.
The strong "push" was when congress changed the bankruptcy laws to exclude education debt.
That started the avalanche of crooks, thieves and liberalism, why liberalism? Because any ijioit can get a libural farts degree with no work or IQ. Then they are in debt for life.
By any chance was that paleontologist named Ross Geller? 😛
A High School diploma 50 years ago was worth more than many a PhD today. I know PhD's who are doing menial jobs.
It all started with the supreme court's decision in the deBake (sp?) case that said that affirmative action was necessary to achieve diversity even if it's racist. Discrimination against whites was ok. Then it was ok to discriminate against anyone who has brains and a job. Now it's the jews turn.
From that single racist/woke decision you have the dumbing down of the schools, of jobs, and a culture of woke in everything.
Thank you for this comment. I unfortunately have a psychology degree and I'm getting my p&c insurance license now! I was very iffy on the subject until I came across your post. ❤️❤️❤️
…as a history major I can say I don’t work in “history” but the degree has been 100% useful in business.
The biggest lesson from History is that no one learns from History. Those of us who study History are doomed to watch those around us repeat it. 🤔😳
I got a history degree and then an MBA. The history degree allowed me to excel beyond many of my peers who were accounting majors. In part it was because of my knowledge of cultures (I was in international business), combined with something history teaches very well - cause and effect.
History is a basic degree. A great base degree for law, business, & others.
Walmart, Waffle House, Target, a janitor at the local school. Such grand opportunities.
@@newenglandpatriot4069 actually it (history degrees) is a great degree for a lot of things. Government, including "intelligence" services, law, anything having to do with international relations, ministerial, to name a few
My niece was told the same thing she just graduated from OSU and now is going to put what she wants to do. She wants to be a vet. People have told her to go into medicine and get it be a doctor she doesn’t want to because she says working on horses is better because they don’t talk back.
I did a BA in Journalism in ‘08, the did a plumbing apprenticeship. Nuff said.
IF you are going to college for strictly financial return on investment reasons, I would say this video is useful. But I think choosing a major based on these metrics is flawed, you will be miserable in a entry 70k a year job if you have no interest in the work. It’s best to find a middle ground between passion and prospects.
No one major fits all and it’s good to have your expectations in check before graduation.
Also, this video frames working retail as a bad thing but some people legitimately love working at these places AND some get paid more than you’d think.
literally everything beats homelessness, including retail lol
but it's also interesting to niche down - and find the hidden sub- sub- jobs, that no one told us about....
that would make 99% of people 10x happier, to know about those options and opportunities
- being a national park caretaker
- copywriting for brands you love, and getting free samples from them
- a Landsman - who just writes down mortage histories on plots of land, and then goes home
- Radiologist xray technician - works for like 2 hours a day, spends about 1 minute with the patient, gets paid just as much as a nurse....
- independent contract courier - just bring a small amount of documents and supplies from hospital to hospital
- pool repairmen - work very little, and get a bigger return on investment, especially if they own the business
- tutor for rich kids - or delivery driver in a rich area
- work for a board game company - testing out board games ?
- working on a yacht
- just all the different certificates you can get, that lead to a small tree of job possibilities -- CPIP, diving, this one, that one.... all kinds of jobs out there
@@Cory99918 The Side quests nobody talks about.
Nobody wants to be in poverty thanks to useless degrees
Beginning of Senior year in High School my parents insisted I go to college. I had no idea what to study so my planned major was Psychology or Drama. I ended up joining the military and learned how to fight instead. After my enlistment I was older and a bit wiser I knew I needed to learn an in demand skill. I used GI Bill to study Mechanical Engineering and have zero regrets.
I studied Electronics in military although Chemistry and many other fields are available. I learned very little about fighting in 4 years of military service even worked as a Gate guard with a club and they didn't teach me how to use it. Most of what I know about fighting I learned somewhere else.
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Well done. So many young kids would benefit from spending a few years in the real world before deciding to go to college, if at all. The vast majority of 18 year olds simply don't have the maturity, vision or focus to utilize college to its full extent.
I don't regret my time in college. It was relatively affordable (state school) and it played a role in where I ended up today, owning my own business in the trades. I just wish I didn't feel so pressured to go straight into the college pipeline. I simply had no idea what I wanted out of life and what I'd like to do for work. It would've been immensely beneficial to have spent a couple years living and working in the real world before attending college.
Good choice. I am a physics graduate, but pretend to be a computer engineer for my day job. Yeah, it's not really software but not really hardware, sorta halfway between. Firmware, I guess...
Mad respect for your experience, your drafting and modeling tools are quite complex!
I do agree with a lot of these, I met people at jobs I used to work at with these kind of 📜 degrees, Paychology was a big one.
I had a great counselor while in college. I was majoring in psychology and she told me I couldn’t just get a Bachelors in psychology so told me I had get a graduate degree but had multiple paths to choose from.
This was not negative at all, you were telling it like it is. I went to community college and got a useless degree (Sociology) got the courses I needed then went to an overpriced online school. Then I got a master's in education. All this so I could travel the world as an ESL teacher. That useless piece of paper did open doors for me in Asia, Not Big Money, small money but I got to travel the world. In all honesty though, I learned next to nothing in University and I learned Everything by Experience.
I work in China with my psychology degree and travel a lot
I used to believe this stuff you say about biology degrees but everyone from my school I know who got a bachelors in biology are getting bio industry and research jobs with no masters.
I do respect how unhinged you got in this video though. Love it
I love this video a lot and this is my first read I've seen it yours soaked immediately Thank you so much. College is a waste of time mostly
Thanks for these dude
Im going to graduate middle school and rn im still trying to figure out my future, im interested in computer science atm because more business need techs stuff
Berklee Graduate here. Don't do an arts degree if you come from a working class fam, or if you're paying your own way. I couldn't see the writing on the wall & why everyone's parents were either doctors or lawyers when I was an undergrad. I was too focused on the fact that I was at my dream school, and getting better at the only thing that I cared about; Songwriting. None of my connections/accomplishments even stemmed from the brand name degree I will forever be paying off. Don't be like me, just come to Nashville and cut your teeth if you want to breathe music.