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Jay: Make sure if you are running SLI to have 2 of the exact same card.
Steve: No you don't need to do that. You can just jerry rig an SLI setup using 2 different 3090s using PCI_E Riser cards and a Jerry rigged cooling solution for the FE card.
And two open benches because why not
To be fair, I don't think Steve would advise doing what he did either
@@sauyon Yeah I know. It was a joke. Even Steve said he advises against what he did.
What? Only on the later years did it get more "important" to use the same cards. Always has been a best idea to do so ofc. But, it a acceleration card. It's the software holding it back (if not the same) but it is understandable why it's hard the code for that shiet. If there only was 2 GPUs then sure. Almost a 100% scaling should be possible
You shouldn't need 2 of the same cards. That is too much bs
"Fifteen Thousand and *nice* "
Also Jay: "mmm these crayons taste extra good today"
Its the law OK!
Double nice.
th-cam.com/video/Vx8eqdy20_U/w-d-xo.html better than crayon
Jay Titan main confirmed!
nice pfp
Who needs SLI nowadays??
SLI bridge sold out in 3 minutes ) 😒
Depends how many there were - Not much point producing many when you don't think there's much demand.
Or I guess Nvidia's current stance is there's not much point producing any regardless of demand ;P
That was 2 minutes and 59 seconds slower then the GPU stock selling out so Nvidia was kinda right-ish...
There were 20 RTX 3090's and 10 NV Links available at launch.
@@CBadger 😂😂😂 to make 10 SLIs
Gonna miss SLI. Been running multi gpu setups for many years now.
"55 degrees is just too high"
Me: laughs in 50 degrees idle
Laughs in 80 idle
lmao same I have the stock amd cooler
41 C idle on my gtx 1060 6gb, because no AC
30° idle boi here
Laughs in 52 degrees powered off for about 3 hours
"Lord Stupid"
That's got to be the worst pirate I've ever heard of, but I have heard of him...
Sooo it would seem
Definitely one I haven't heard in a while :).
Thank you for Celsius. Not everybody can understand donuts per eagle :)
Donuts per eagle? LOL!
Fahrrad in german means Bicycle ...
@@ZeroB4NG And Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit is a name, your point?
LMAO
@@ZeroB4NG you know the difference between fahrenheit and fahrrad right?
"This is really bugging Phil, he wants the fans to be in a straight line."
*Phil dies inside in the background*
Jay: " Nvidia slowing things down, HEY a support bracket..."
bud you're a Corviknight not a metal crow
X9_Yeetus Mohetus looooool
@@movedaccount2596 lol
@@movedaccount2596 corvid-19
@@jayjaygolden5123 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
JayzTwoCents: 55°c is too warm for stability.
*Me at steady 86°c on youtube
really
@@thememeiseur8646 struggle is real. really hard to earn money during pandemic. so i cant afford a better pc :(
@@xinister2362 do u have a desktop and u know its specs?
@@xinister2362 something that helped me is making sure youre cpu isnt boost clocking at idle
@Casual Scum I'm still a student. I was saving my allowance for 3 years to get a decent pc.but i have no allowance inthis pandemic. aint lot of jobs right now for non college grad.
Jay: I cant just *snap* and make a bracket appear
Linus: *goes to machine shop room and makes a bracket*
that's exactly what I thought
Alex then spends 2 weeks attempting to make the bracket, fails, and that becomes a video.
yup, thought the same
We can't all be ballers like Linus. I think Jay does pretty well for himself too though lol.
Jay: 55°C is too warm for stability
Me: Peaks at 90°C on casual 1080p gaming...
feel ya'
Me cooking my breakfast on my FX cpu. Amatures!
Gaming laptop life
5700xt blower moment
Like bruh
Other unboxings - "Wait guys, the peel is the best part"
Jay - "Ain't nobody got time for that S**t"
That peel was the most painful thing I've ever experienced
yes i cringed
Felt like an assault as opposed to making love
Robert Devon Jay straight up assaulted that poor graphics card
What was bad about it?
Freighter 109 everything
Pronounced "Gur Chew Low" :). Glad we could have that friendly competition! Perhaps one day we will meet again on the 3dmark battlefield, but I'll need a better air conditioner, but I digress - Thanks for all your content and teaching/entertaining me for years, I'm a big fan.
Omg I was reading your comment as soon as he said your name and didn't even notice it was you until I thought "that looks familiar"!
@@ChixelROBLOX Why Thank You. When I run across some dough I intend to challenge him again!
@@LordGurciullo I look forward to that, I'll stay posted mate!
Steve: this will give Jay something to do.
Jay: *does it*
Jay: "A/C Periscope"
My Brain: Haha AeroScope
I'm honestly more impressed with escapee, he's using a i7 4790k and getting close to jays top score.
He just got smacked by the 4790k
@@TheWretchedWorld lmao wow the 4790 chopped him
@@tav48 how? 4th gen beats new gen. Just ridiculous overclocking i guess
Not to mention he probably didnt paid for all his stuff out of pocket. I would try some crazy stuff if all these things were sent to me for FREE...
no bottleneck no problem
Jay have you ever thought about doing GPU "bracket racing"? I was thinking about doing it on my channel. Think of it as XOC on a budget. You could XOC lower tier GPUs like doing RTX 2060 bracket or a 1050ti bracket. Highest score with specified gpu. Thoughts?
Sounds like fun. Maybe by price tier?
This would be interesting for sure.
This should be a thing.
> "bracket racing"
With older videos in mind I suggest we call it "brick-it racing" instead
@@iwsfg too much overclocking it will deff be bricks everywhere lol
10:21 gonna need one of these types of montages for all future builds
With just fart noises.
If you want to prevent condensation with a full body water block, run the AC on the back of the card to lower total temperature deltas across the card. Also, invest in a dehumidifier. Condensation is based off two things: ambient temperature and humidity. You can greatly reduce condensation on the system if you run a dehumidifier close to it. I do this for my sub-ambient server, and it is 100% safe and stable.
16:46 Steve says just drill away, it'll be fine. lol
Didn't Jay already make that mistake on a motherboard?
@@longjohn526 There were traces running through the board where Jay drilled it, I reckon there's some wiggle room on the passthroughs for the cooler mount... Not my video card :)
I thought the title said “bois” like he was referring to us as the bois and he just modified his rtx 3090
Love the mad scientist ambience of this episode. Adding a smoke machine everytime you hook the AC to the test bench would greatly raise the quality.
16:50 Der8auer has already mounted a waterblock on a card, using 2 screws and two screw clamps.
scrolled way to long to see this one.
Love how all the people making videos have numerous cards while 99% of us cant get one.
Like they can't see that this wasn't anything like a proper production release. Anyhoo I'm spending the money I was going to buy a new GPU with on a new bike. Time to get in shape and forget about fantasy cards releases.
I have one and that’s all that matters
Mine is getting here 22. Okt! or so the website says ><
If nothing else, the delayed delivery means if Big Navi turns out to be baller i can refund the Ampere.
@@quirinaled2752 Hope you mean motorcycle or dirtbike! Plus these 90's are silly priced. But if computer is your only fun thing go ahead @Natek. $1500 retail or 2500 scalp dont matter its too much, You can get a old D series and boost it cheaply. Then you can make a 3090 owners ride look silly. Cars and bikes(and high velocity things) are much more fun than a GPU contest. But good on you for working it out to get in shape man.
True but what I hear is most of these free cards are just made inflate test results and most of these tech people never play many games anyways.
Did you beat Paul, or was this filmed before Paul beat you and GN.
looks like it was before.. and anyway he was only showing single card scores
Just finished watching Paul's video
Take a look at the hall of fame and you'll see everything ;-)
Paul used 2 graphics card, so it is a different leaderboards than Jay2cents
YEP
pbfffffiiip! hahahah Jay, your coverage of the 3000 series has been hilarious. Keep up the great work!
I would love to see Phil do some videos on how he does his editing, i have great appreciation for the quality of your videos and his editing im sure is a huge part of that.
Escapee is coming for you Jay..... Watch your back, 4790k is breathing down your neck.
Best be asking Linus for a favor for the block
yeah im sure Alex would enjoy machining up a bracket with all the new toys they have in the shop
He'll sure hammer it into shape :D
I really like how you keep your bloopers in and even try to caption them. Also funny to hear Phil dying in the background. Nice work guys!
Jo Jay.
The air coming out of the AC is already "dried" because the water "drops out" in the AC cooler heat exchanger as the coldest spot.
Thats why there is a plug somewhere on the lower part and/or it gets used on the "hot" part of the ac to help cooling by evaporating.
So when the air gets out of the AC, everything afterwards means the air is already getting warmer and so "even more dry".
Only point would be if you cool down the card with the ac way below room temp, then switch off gpu and remove the ac.
Perhaps the backside of the card, but it should still be surrounded by a indirect "cloud" of warmed up ultradry air from the AC.
Did you try spraywax (car shop) or conformal coating on your subroomtemperature-oc-gpus if you fear condensation ?
Spraywax is great because you can easily reflow it again everywhere with a heatgun.
if you need a plate, try aluminium, a hand drill and manual saw, we know you can do it.. or even wood (only the finest aged swamp oak, because of better sound) works just fine.
I would really like to see a tool which includes the memory error correction rate happening. So people dont get all high on super oc-memory numbers and in reality lose speed.
Just mount the block with 2 screws, tape and z̶i̶p̶t̶i̶e̶s̶ tweezers
Do you think it can handle the heat ??? Hmmm
"CAD" Cardboard Aided Design. Never go wrong using it 😂
if you want a ghetto way to get temps down which actually works. you could try taking the shroud off and the fans then get some 120-140mm case fans and mount them to the heat sync. its kind of like an alternative to water cooling and is rather effective.
what Jay really meant was: "if you're an early adopter, suck it up, buttercup"
Jay: "That's thick tape guys"
*cutting with back of knife*
he started with the edge down, pressing against the tape. He then reversed the knife, but once again was cutting the tape with the edge up from below. He never used the back of the knife.
I was expecting him to load in a custom bios and that causing it to get bricked.
That fan shroud is the most sophisticated piece of tech in the studio.
3 steps in the bios to get more preformance
1: Adjust core clocks
2: Increase fan speed
3: *FUCK POWER LIMITS*
Precision have been like this since the 2080TI came out
Your over there ripping apart a 3090 and I’m over watching with my 2014 MacBook air
Why even buy a macbook tho
Because it’s my mum’s and can’t afford a pc don’t no why she bought a Mac tho she dumb
Use "grip clamps" not screws to mount the water block. No bracket required, "Snap". Home depot has the rubber grips on the clamps that just ratchet tight. It won't move and you get max down pressure that ensures contact and it won't move
Jay little truck for task manager! Control, shift, escape will bring it up for you!!
My fiancee and I were watching this video, hoping for the iconic "I like boats". But was disappointed to never hear it. Of all the tech TH-camrs I force her to listen to you are her favorite and I just want to make a quick and easy video suggestion for your upcoming content... Just say it please.
Boats > lamp!
Jay: I've had this card since before it launched and I haven't even opened it up yet
Me still sitting here with a RX 5700 2 weeks after launch: Oh just FU Jay ..... Just FU .....
I am building a PC for a friend out of parts I have lying around. I wound up running Zip-Ties through the back of the motherboard, through the cpu H/S and just put another Zip-Tie on the other side. Worked GREAT! And cheap BTW.
Prefect video to watch whilst I put together a IKEA PC desk for my son, as we’ve built him his first gaming small factor PC.
"Jay" and "Engineering" should never be used in the same sentence.
Unless he takes up model trains for a new hobby ........
How about JayRigging? Jerry went on vacation.
Jay Nay The Pseudo Science Guy
The "slowdown" from the new driver has been tested, and the difference is actually extremely minuscule. Either there's no difference or it's within testing error. Don't return your cards just because of the driver update...
Ok Nvidia!
Exactly. Jay has no idea what he is talking about.
Just give me your cards to someone who will appreciate them like me
The EVGA FTW3 3090 is officially the coolest looking graphics card I have ever seen with that RGB.
Eh, the 2000 series MSI Gaming X Trio looks better imo.
Although the EVGA does look acceptable still lol.
1:16 Yay the P1 takes the track for a hotlap!
Some people report their cards OC-ing higher after the driver fix.
Mine stays the same🤷.
Honestly, can't wait till this actually get's either in stock, or Big navi becomes good.
well if you like last gen performance at best MAYBE, go big navi
@@moby1kanob how do you know it'll be last gen without getting the product?
One maybe by the end of the year the other LOL 😂.
@@raawesome3851 I mean, they (AMD) were talking about how their card competed with the 2080ti.... that's not good news. But hey, the 5700xt was so good compared to even 2070 super right?
@@moby1kanob how would you know that? Big Navi rumours make it seem like it won't compete with the 3090, but it will kill it in the value department. Rumours are that it will compete with the 3080 and far cheaper.
That guy really thought he could take you on cmon 😂
3:37
Thor has Noobmaster69, Jay has LordGurciullo.
Jay I have a milling machine in my garage, Send me a drawing with dimensions and I can make a bracket for you, I have plenty of material.
Are you able to create brackets for sale? For example a bracket for a evga 3090 ftw3?
@@nc33228 maybe, send me a drawing of what you need and i will see if its something i can do
Before: "Nvidia is slowing the previous cards to fell obsolete to sell new cards."
After: "Download the new driver to slow your new card to avoid crashes."
Don’t need a mill to make a cpu bracket, can been done with simple hand tools and a couple hours labour. The stuff I’ve built with hand tools would blow your mind. Just finished up making a Luger action wrench with a chop saw and hand file, tolerances had to be 0.0005-0.0010” and I nailed it with 0.0008” and that includes the
0.005” brass shim that fits between the Luger and action wrench to protect the
blueing. Mills are nice to have, but we can make due without them for most custom jobs.
I think a wild Escapee took you outta 4th place bro... rip mate.
I really want to see the Strix go head to head with the FTW3 card, not that it's going to be that big a difference I guess, silicon lottery and power limit are the major factors
Sounds like Jay needs to call Linus to get some waterblocks/brackets made...
@Disscordiab Lorenzo Where did you get that from?
@Disscordiab Lorenzo Him and Steve (from GamersNexus) often banter around with such type of statements.
Jay is pretty good with Linus and also participates in all kinds of events which are hosted by LMG (Tech support challenge, LTX, The Roast, etc.)
@@djhokage1 TY, was just about to type this. It seems to be a pretty common thing in the tech youtuber community since they all know advertising is kinda just something you have to do to make money on the platform now and they all are so enthusiastic about the tech that shilling for one company or another would be silly, not to mention career suicide.
3d print a bracket with ABS for bracket prototyping. An Ender 3 printer will get you started np. PLA will be more for "pretty" things to print where ABS will be for functional stuff.
'Just' use four long-arm clamps, miniature versions of the woodworker's clamp, as are used in modelmaking.
It's probable that they're able to enable a stable, adjustable, reproducible and compressible, heat-block table .
I wonder if changing a resolution of the monitor would increase your score
it doesn't
No, it'll change the leaderboard you get put on. Each test has its own board, each resolution has its own test.
@@falcie7743 I thought they meant just setting the background (desktop) resolution to a lower res to try and free up resources, I've tried that before and can't remember it having any kind of significant effect
Zip ties.
The answer is always zip ties.
It's called tweezers.
the logo on the newer xbox one controllers are like that and I also think its really cool... where it looks like solid metal but then turns into a light
Get a big stock pot soup pot and make a DIY degasser / vaccuum chamber. Plumb in liquid cooling lines. Cool it to -20 with liquid nitrogen in a vaccuum. IT can't condensate water from the air if there is no air.
Try feeding on AC with another AC that then cools the air to the GPU
@bruh meme whoosh
@@eg12p34 I fail to see the whoosh
EG12P I also fail fo see the whoosh
You'd gain more by misting water on the condenser coil so it transfers the heat out of the refrigerant better .....
@bruh meme Not true, they are designed for a specific temperature drop from ambient, usually around 20 F ...... If the air in is 70 then the air out is 50, if they air in is 80 then the air out is 60 ..... However there are limits since those small units use capillary tubes rather than an expansion valve so you aren't going to gain much below 60 in ..... better way is to lower the liquid temperature and the easiest way to do that would be misting the condenser coil ..... You can buy kits for home A/C condensers where you have tube that circles the top with little garden type misters every few inches that mist the coil whenever the unit turns on but the downside is getting a water supply to them, you either have to tie up your garden hose or plumb a line from inside the house that can be shut off and drained for winter so it doesn't burst from freezing ....
2:00 I'm confused, didn't Jay test the new drivers 2 days ago and found basically no difference?
In every day to day use there was no difference.
But it did show that the port royal score was lower which is my guess as to why he has chosen not to update.
That transition when building the shroud was funny as hell Phil!!!!
Love how Jayz literally grunted like he was weightlifting when he picked up the 3080 FE
You know, you wouldn't get that condensation in Colorado. Too dry here. :)
"The 3090 is a useless card to gamers." But Jay, what if I want to take 3 x 4k monitors in portrait and side-by side them in a wrap around config and play MSFS 2020?
Jay is about to invent a thermal paste/glue combo.
Rumor has it the 5000 series will support a predictive denoising function: it cleans up your renders before you even buy the card!
A strong intention to buy the card can result in your storage devices filling up with finished renders.
I want that 700W+ BIOS...
The Asus Strix with its 480W should be enough. If I ever manage to get one. :{
How and where are they getting these super high bios? Or can we mod them again somehow like we used to?
@@TJ.85 Probably the Kingpin BIOS directly from EVGA or Kingpin himself. Not for us "plebs".
Umm I game, 10%-20% on 3440x1440 is a *huge difference!* I'm either buying an RTX 3090 or an 20 GB RTX 3080 TI (or Super).
Are benchmarks new to you or something?! I only play competitive First Person Shooters and in Hardcore. There's a HUGE (BIG HONKING) difference between 120-130 FPS and 150+ FPS. I'm not playing flight simulator where 30 or 40 FPS is okay.
Loads of people with shallow pockets in these comments. :D
2:30 lol that hand shake.
Heres a little hint.
Set your clocks then close the overclocking program since it uses gpu power each time it polls all the sensors.
You gain about 450 closing percisionX and about 140 points closing afterburner.
Change screen res to 1080 and disable gpu scaling.
Close any thing else running in the background using the GPU you can see whats using it by calling nvidia-smi
Then lastly for people that dont have there cards shunt modded. Nvidia used strange power limiters like 5.4%
Overclocking software you can only move it too 5% so your missing out on the .4%
You can set the full power limit in nvidia-smi using the -pl command.
What goes through your head to be a fan watching ripjay/gn and think “I wanna get in the middle of that”
"below sub ambient" 10:00
"Sub" already means "below" so it's either "sub ambient" or "below ambient", not both at the same time
If you had a real dehumidifier in the room, condensation and dew point is no issue at any temp. I don't understand how this is so overlooked when overclocking. I'm a indoor grower and PC builder. Water cooling with heat exchangers is my thing.
I just checked the Port Royal hall of fame and Jay is in 4th position @27431 points with 2x 3090 in sli (R.I.P GN @27052).
I guess we know what the next video will be about :D
Lol I seen your score in port royal lmao
You saw it. Or you had seen it.
You didn't activately seen something. Learn engrish.
Boogz Alpha thank you for correcting this poor mans grammar in all your infinite wisdom. You are truly a god among men and this man is blessed to be graced by your presence, for he is truly so low below you that his grammar is not even comparable as you, a true god, call it “Engrish”
@@user-qf3dn6sz6e what a simp
@@SoultalkOG You're a Goon !
@@boogzalpha859 Learn how to spell English Dolt !
God i wish there was stock in Australia... :(
...and in Italy too,for me.
😟
@jayztwocents watercool the whole system, put it in a fairly sealed case. Trickle nitrogen gas in the case - boom absolutely no water vapor in the case = no condensation. you can run with ice water or whatever you fancy all day.
Tip: You can open Task Manager by right clicking the taskbar and clicking Task Manager from the menu :) Much faster than Ctrl + Alt + Del and WAITING FOREVER(few seconds) and then clicking Task Manager there.
Dude Jay come on bud. This video might be a couple days behind but the new drivers do NOT slow your card down.
Go watch his last video 😉
Edit: I guess you aren't the only slow one here so I'll tl;dw it for everyone. The new drivers *do* slow your card down, not enough to matter in games but enough to matter in synthetic benchmarks, which is the focus of this video.
Jay is just doubling down on the bologna he started with the capacitors.
@@whydontyouhandledeez Wrong the new drivers do not slow your card down at all hardware unboxed and many other debunked that claim
@@Manuel-xy7un Watch Jay's last video. They do slow the card down, just enough to improve stability. It's not enough to have an impact on gaming performance, which Jay also concluded, but it is enough to effect synthetic benchmarks which is the focus of this video. Just because the news drivers don't slow the card down enough to have an impact on gaming doesn't mean they don't slow the card down at all.
Can we get a link to the bios EVGA sent you please??
Jay. Use the 20 series pcb and make the bracket from that.
Looks as though the smaller inner holes line up with the 30 series holes leaving the larger outer holes on the 20 series to mount the block to.
C-Clamp .. neoprene + square plexiglass (back) to your water block.
RELEASE THE BIOS ALREADY EVGA!!! YOU CAN'T COCKTEASE US LIKE THIS!
I don't know why, but when I read the title I remembered what BIOS stands for incorrectly... ^^;
BIOS
Built-in OS, incorrect
basic input-output system, actual
@Angel Exactly why it made me do a "double-think" when I thought it lol
Never in my life have I heard someone say built-in OS but if you told me that before I knew the propper term I'd probably just go with it
Best Inserted Oriented Sideways?
der8auer used the top two screws and G clamps with plastic insulators for the bottom part of the water block.
You could get a 3D Printer and print a bracket? Just use a slightly flexible material and use the flex to "pull" the block down.
jay the tech sales guy - he will sell anything for cash
zero integrity - all about the advertisings
10:22 looks like an among us character
Great I can't unsee it now 😂
Could use dehumidifiers as well and actually have a meter to measure humidity and make sure it is low. Water that condenses from air should have no impurities in it anyway, and therefore not be electrically conductive - that is an experiment it would be good to run and find out if true or not.
I feel like Jay is a secret fan of the red green show...ALL THE DUCK TAPE