Three deaths: The first is when you take your last breath. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.
It seems that there is a lot of Sad things in and around Salford. Thanks for sharing this with us. Hope all is well in your life here in 2024 my friend. Big Respect from The States. 🙏🇺🇸🗽🏴🙏
"All those people, all those lives, where are they now? With loves, and hates, and passions just like mine, they were born, and then they lived, and then they died. It seems so unfair, I want to cry." Cemetery Gates Morrissey The Smiths I love Salford lads! xxx
@@justoheaghra1317 Oh my gosh, thank you so much! I actually saw that film, but I'd forgotten the name of it. There's a website that is sort of a lyrics bibliography/filmography, but I haven't looked at it in ages. I drove past Southern Cemetery the other day, it is the biggest one I have ever seen in my life! I gotta get down there and do a long walk through!
While there are young people like you who care about history like this, there is hope. It has always stunned me how graves from the 1800s can just be left neglected, or worse cleared. What other artefact that is 200+ years old could be smashed up and no-one would care. Loved watching this and thanks for the restoring my faith in the future 😍
that’s such a nice thing to say Ani! Thank you very much. History will always come first with me, its paved the way for our future. I think places like this should be treated with the upmost respect. Thank you once again and take care 🙌🏼 🐒
@@daftmonkey7296 That’s absolutely true - if you watch the BBC documentary about the 1914 Flu Epidemic you realise a lot of what they are doing now comes from learning about what happened then, and things they didn’t do then. History is always with us 😊. I found you via Martin Zero and so will be going through your other VLOGS now - The Scuttlers, Angel Meadow ... woo-hoo! 😊. I’ve read fantastic books on both those things so it will be lovely to link it to seeing the places. There is a very readable book, written in 1844 by W H Chaloner, that has now been published as an ebook. It’s called ‘Manchester in 1844’. The language is a bit strange sometimes but it is like talking directly to someone from that time! He talks about Lancashire becoming ‘studded with roads, canals, railways ...’ but he’s living in 1844, when the industrial revolution was just starting! It’s a good read if you ever fancy touching the bare roots of history 😊 Keep going! I’m going to watch The Scuttlers now! 😱
@@aniwilliams3370 wow thanks a lot Ani! I’ll check it out. And thank you so much, I’m so glad that you found the channel. I’ll try and bring as much local history as I can whist trying my best to keep you entertained. Thanks once again and take care 🙌🏼💫
Oh my - You sent me back to my innocent youth, and then some. My boyfriend (first one) from 1985 - 1987, introduced me to searching graveyards, reading gravestones and trying to work out how and when and what of, a person or family died of. It was so tragic when every family member died within days of each other. Graham and I are still good friends. Thank you for this gem of a video 🥰
Love you're visiting Salford ordsall and manchester. I was born 1953 ordsall. I m very privileged to have met many famous people. Both musical. Film and royalty. I was just me a girl from the back streets of ordsall Salford. I m 67 now and I want to retire in a few years to my sons family in America. I m still the little kid from ordsall. I ll take the memories with me. X
Always loved graveyards. I lived on Trafford Rd and used to play in this cemetery as a kid back in the early 70s. Can't believe how overgrown its become. So sad. Great video and sympathetically done.
Thanks so much! Wow did you! Was it more kept back then rather than it being overgrown like today? Thanks so much for watching the video A B. I really do appreciate it 👍🏼
I well remember falling asleep on the box grave, after a night on the amber nectar! I decided, in my wisdom, to explore, in the dark, and sat on the box, trying to trace the letters to see what it said.
I live right near here and have seen this cemetery and wondered about it. I feel like you should do a revisit in the winter, when everything has died back. You’ll see a lot more. I’ve watched most of your channel today and your videos are great! It great to see a local Urbex channel.
first off mate thank you for watching and taking an interest! I really do appreciate it. Yeah funny you should say that because I am actually revising it in the winter once the wildlife has died...hopefully we can see the graves a lot clearer. Thanks once again mate, it means a lot
superb video an area i know too well. the church just over the barton bridge has a huge grave yard and the one your exploring is a part of this. Ive posted this to my buddy as his back garden backs right on to this forgotten grave yard. Thanks for sharing.
Cheers Dave! Much appreciate dude! Yeah gonna do a part 2 of that other graveyard as well mate & a revisit of the graveyard in the winter once the wildlife has died so I can see the graves and names much clearer. Thanks once again!
Using google Earth and a road sign I managed to find this place! It's a great little find that I simply Had to find, I spent an hour or so photographing it. I hope to return to do some model shoots! Thanks for showing us this gem. Great work as always!
Nick Benke that’s brilliant nick, glad you found it mate. You could have inboxed me and I would have told you 😁😁 id love to see some of the shots you’ve got. It’s a real gem isn’t it. So much history buried within that one little spot. Keep up the good work nick 👍🏼🐒
Hi mate, great little video, what a crying shame, forgotten graves very sad.. Every respect for what you & your dad are doing, keep up the great work.. J👍
In the shitty days we live in, best it's so full of trees and overgrown, as that protects the stones far better than the useless council ever could. Councils do more damage than amateur vandals, often enough, toppling stones for "safety" reasons.
What a fantastic place to explore. Full of forgotten history. As you can probably tell from my channel I love a mooch around an old cemetery. They tell you so much about the social history of an area. There are quite a few cemeteries around where I live that are abandoned and overgrown like this one. A few locked up to stop people going in and falling down into collapsed graves. (One about five miles away from me is usually locked up but one day the gate was left unlocked and I was right in there to have a look. Some of the graves had dropped about 5ft!) Although sadly neglected they are a haven for wildlife. I think it all comes down to local authorities having very stretched budgets, and allocating funds to the upkeep of a long unused cemetery comes last on the list of priorities. Once a certain period of time has passed and those that visited the graves of their loved ones have also passed on there is no one left to complain about the state of things.
Psychomania 1974 thanks for watching! Yeah I notice you love a good mooch around a graveyard! Haha! So do I, as daft as it sounds I feel calm and peaceful when I’m there. I plan on doing a few more Graveyard vids soon! Sounds like I could film for hours with the ones near you! I couldn’t agree more with what you said about them being neglected. I think your right, it’s probably really low on the priority list.
Great video and very interesting, had a walk around where that lock keepers house is last year with the wife and thought it was really sad that it was in a dilapidated state and how neglected that area is.
I remember when I worked with some older generations back in the early 2000s in Monton eccles they was trying to get planning permission to build on that graveyard. It was denied as a few people still alive with relatives in that cemetery protesting - they would have passed away or be very old now - so perhaps the council let it go to ruin so that eventually planning permission (a lot of backhanders within Salford city council for example unicorn pub eccles was torn down they stated due to asbestos which many people involved within that even workers for the council stated there was none because the high up in Salford council have been given secret “brown envelope” by developers whether supermarkets or big home builders like bellway homes. Also old historical pubs or buildings are mysteriously set on fire within Salford etc 🤷♀️ then the developers get the land they want) it’s a shame because the history of Salford and Manchester is very interesting. Great videos 👍🏻 I love history keep up the brilliant work
Whilst you were trailing this on Facebook I hadn’t clocked the fact it was “forgotten” which made the film more poignant for me. You did a great job on this one Mr. M, a brilliant watch mate as always. I was struck by the ages of some of the deceased actually, the couple whose children had died as teens and some of the others lived long lives for the time. It made me wonder if the Graveyard was rather exclusive in its day if you get me. The old picture you put in of it showed some extravagant head stones and that. Though you did mention some paupers’ graves so I don’t know. Anyway, looking forward to what you have for us next time mate. I need to watch your earlier ones as I only found your channel about 2 month ago. Great work Mr. M.
Thanks Paddy! I really appreciate It dude! Yeah those extravagant headstone would have cost a fair old whack back in the day. Hopefully something can be done about the current state its in. Im planning on going back in the winter once the wildlife has died so I can make out the graves a lot clearer. Thanks once again Paddy!
So sad indeed DM.😢 What about the future generations who might have had loved ones buried there, how would you find a grave when it's overgrown and been neglected. Quite sad indeed!!
Sounds like it is an abandoned catholic cemetery........The catholic diocece of salford should be notified and asked to restore the cemetery on decency and historical grounds. Such a shame to see this....
Hello chaps, another way of looking at the neglected graveyard is a little green oasis for wildlife.....i could hear so many birds singing and there will be other little creatures as well such as the horrors that were biting you. 😉 take care, sarah. 🐶🐶🐶
From what Ive heard the council are not in charge of any graveyard as such. Its the people who own the deeds to a grave are the owners and should take care of them .Thats why you see a lot of very old graves have fallen over because no one is still alive to look after them.
Would be great to see it cleaned up, though on a positive note, the overgrowth keeps the undesirables out. Sticking to the graveyard theme, we went to weaste cemetery a few months ago to have a look round, some of the grave stones have shrapnel damage from ww2 where a bomb landed, bizarrely there was a group of people having a picnic.
Yeah most definitely keeps them out Stew. A complete lack of respect from the RC church / Council. These people had significance just like we did. haha really! quite mad to think someone would have a picnic in a graveyard...each to their own I suppose lol. Thanks for watching mate and as always I really appreciate it! cheers,
@@stewriley1183 no, she died in 1980 after a fall in our flat, 117 Walter greenwood court. No money for a gravestone probably and a woman who wouldn't want cremated. I was only eight when she died, I missed out on decent conversation with her
Wow! brilliant video, love the history. I have a question: when you mentioned people's names e.g. the Pastor and you had a picture of an individual appear on screen, was that a photo of the person whose grave it was or were the photos used for contextual purposes?
Hi mate, No that was just a photo of a pastor online that I thought the guy might have resembled back in the day. It just gives the viewer a bit of an idea of what people looked like back then. Its good for historical and nostalgic reasons. Thank for watching mate
Daft Monkey no worries, thanks for answering the question! Either way the photos are really cool to see, shows just how much everything has changed in around 150-200 years
Omg if its over 100 years old the developers might want to get hold of that land and clear all them graves for more high-rise crap I do hope not in the future nice find though
I think they put the gravestones on top of the graves to stop grave robbers , I should imagine the grave had four sides to make it into a box at one time
sacred ground cannot be touched until about 200 years after the last burial i think + the fact eccles was ecclesiastic /monastery the deeds are perpetual.? gl
Be very very quiet in a grave yard mate if you wake them they will haunt you. And you don't want that amigo it happened to me I got home and went to the shitter and the fecking ghost jumped out and well you can amagine.
@@daftmonkey7296 Salford like all councils are always happy to widen their boundaries giving them more money and power while not giving a toss for the culture of the area under their rule. The real Salford boundary ended around Ladywell Hospital. Same with other outlying areas such as Pendlebury, Swinton etc which were never Salford and even spoke with a different accent. We called them yonners as they sound more Lancastrian and less manc.
That was good that. I never knew about some of that stuff. Frog on stomach and St Anthony's fire 👍
Cheers Mate, Horrific Diseases Back Then. Thanks Once Again Martin
Three deaths: The first is when you take your last breath. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.
My dad is a Salford lad born and bred, 91 years old. He says when they were kids they used to say, 'he's dead but won't lie down.'
Absolutely brilliant mate thanks and keep up with the good
Really appreciate the support you’re showing the channel mate! Thank you 👍🏼
It seems that there is a lot of Sad things in and around Salford. Thanks for sharing this with us. Hope all is well in your life here in 2024 my friend. Big Respect from The States. 🙏🇺🇸🗽🏴🙏
Thank you so much! Big love from 🇬🇧 ❤️
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Thanks for sharing this interesting video. done with interest and respect.
Thank you so much Iain! I really appreciate it. I’m doing another similar one (graveyard) in the next few week. Take care 👍🏼
@@daftmonkey7296 You have a new follower, brilliant stuff.
@@iainlindsay5687 much appreciated thank you very much! I really hope you enjoy the content pal! 🌟👍🏼
"All those people, all those lives, where are they now? With loves, and hates, and passions just like mine, they were born, and then they lived, and then they died. It seems so unfair, I want to cry." Cemetery Gates Morrissey The Smiths
I love Salford lads! xxx
It's such a shame isn't it. All those people forgotten like that...so sad... thanks for watching the video. I really do appreciate it
Morrissey stole that line from the film ‘The Man Who Came to Dinner’.
@@justoheaghra1317 Oh my gosh, thank you so much! I actually saw that film, but I'd forgotten the name of it. There's a website that is sort of a lyrics bibliography/filmography, but I haven't looked at it in ages. I drove past Southern Cemetery the other day, it is the biggest one I have ever seen in my life! I gotta get down there and do a long walk through!
While there are young people like you who care about history like this, there is hope. It has always stunned me how graves from the 1800s can just be left neglected, or worse cleared. What other artefact that is 200+ years old could be smashed up and no-one would care. Loved watching this and thanks for the restoring my faith in the future 😍
that’s such a nice thing to say Ani! Thank you very much. History will always come first with me, its paved the way for our future. I think places like this should be treated with the upmost respect. Thank you once again and take care 🙌🏼 🐒
@@daftmonkey7296 That’s absolutely true - if you watch the BBC documentary about the 1914 Flu Epidemic you realise a lot of what they are doing now comes from learning about what happened then, and things they didn’t do then. History is always with us 😊. I found you via Martin Zero and so will be going through your other VLOGS now - The Scuttlers, Angel Meadow ... woo-hoo! 😊. I’ve read fantastic books on both those things so it will be lovely to link it to seeing the places. There is a very readable book, written in 1844 by W H Chaloner, that has now been published as an ebook. It’s called ‘Manchester in 1844’. The language is a bit strange sometimes but it is like talking directly to someone from that time! He talks about Lancashire becoming ‘studded with roads, canals, railways ...’ but he’s living in 1844, when the industrial revolution was just starting! It’s a good read if you ever fancy touching the bare roots of history 😊 Keep going! I’m going to watch The Scuttlers now! 😱
@@aniwilliams3370 wow thanks a lot Ani! I’ll check it out. And thank you so much, I’m so glad that you found the channel. I’ll try and bring as much local history as I can whist trying my best to keep you entertained. Thanks once again and take care 🙌🏼💫
Very interesting, thank you
Oh my - You sent me back to my innocent youth, and then some. My boyfriend (first one) from 1985 - 1987, introduced me to searching graveyards, reading gravestones and trying to work out how and when and what of, a person or family died of. It was so tragic when every family member died within days of each other. Graham and I are still good friends. Thank you for this gem of a video 🥰
Thank you so much for watching the video. Really glad it brought back
Some memories for you 🙏🏼
Great video, thanks for publishing.
Thank you for watching Fred! Much appreciated mate🙏🏼👍🏼
Brilliant explore and editing Thanks for bringing us some forgotten history
Nice one Carl, proper appreciate it mate!
A very beautiful cemetery!⚰️🇳🇿
it sure is, shame its been left the way it is...:(
Love you're visiting Salford ordsall and manchester. I was born 1953 ordsall. I m very privileged to have met many famous people. Both musical. Film and royalty. I was just me a girl from the back streets of ordsall Salford. I m 67 now and I want to retire in a few years to my sons family in America. I m still the little kid from ordsall. I ll take the memories with me. X
Aww that’s great Susan! One a Salfordian always a Salfordians in my book! Keep the memories alive ⭐️🙌🏼
Excellent find. You wouldn’t realise what it was, just passing by. A great shame, as the departed should be remembered.
I completely agree Phil! Thanks a lot for watching mate 👍🏼
Always loved graveyards. I lived on Trafford Rd and used to play in this cemetery as a kid back in the early 70s. Can't believe how overgrown its become. So sad. Great video and sympathetically done.
Thanks so much! Wow did you! Was it more kept back then rather than it being overgrown like today? Thanks so much for watching the video A B. I really do appreciate it 👍🏼
I well remember falling asleep on the box grave, after a night on the amber nectar! I decided, in my wisdom, to explore, in the dark, and sat on the box, trying to trace the letters to see what it said.
pmsl! you must have balls of steel Ben. Thanks for watching the vid mate
I live right near here and have seen this cemetery and wondered about it. I feel like you should do a revisit in the winter, when everything has died back. You’ll see a lot more. I’ve watched most of your channel today and your videos are great! It great to see a local Urbex channel.
first off mate thank you for watching and taking an interest! I really do appreciate it. Yeah funny you should say that because I am actually revising it in the winter once the wildlife has died...hopefully we can see the graves a lot clearer. Thanks once again mate, it means a lot
Very good video thank you from New Zealand
Thanks so much Terry! Wow all the way in
New Zealand! I can’t believe it! Thanks once again and take care ✌🏼
superb video an area i know too well.
the church just over the barton bridge has a huge grave yard and the one your exploring is a part of this. Ive posted this to my buddy as his back garden backs right on to this forgotten grave yard. Thanks for sharing.
Cheers Dave! Much appreciate dude! Yeah gonna do a part 2 of that other graveyard as well mate & a revisit of the graveyard in the winter once the wildlife has died so I can see the graves and names much clearer. Thanks once again!
Using google Earth and a road sign I managed to find this place! It's a great little find that I simply Had to find, I spent an hour or so photographing it. I hope to return to do some model shoots! Thanks for showing us this gem. Great work as always!
Nick Benke that’s brilliant nick, glad you found it mate. You could have inboxed me and I would have told you 😁😁 id love to see some of the shots you’ve got. It’s a real gem isn’t it. So much history buried within that one little spot. Keep up the good work nick 👍🏼🐒
@@daftmonkey7296 My shots are in my facebook page, just type my name in!
Fantastic video..what a shame it’s been left to become overgrown and forgotten..thanks for bringing it back into the public eye 👍
nice one dad!
Hi mate, great little video, what a crying shame, forgotten graves very sad.. Every respect for what you & your dad are doing, keep up the great work.. J👍
Thank you so much John & cheers for taking the time out to watch the video mate. Take care 👍🏼
Watching between you and Martin Zero, it`s almost like Manchester city [or greater] council don`t give a toss about it`s history.
Exactly mate! They really don’t! Such a shame…
In the shitty days we live in, best it's so full of trees and overgrown, as that protects the stones far better than the useless council ever could. Councils do more damage than amateur vandals, often enough, toppling stones for "safety" reasons.
completely agree Bob, Something needs to be done
What a fantastic place to explore. Full of forgotten history. As you can probably tell from my channel I love a mooch around an old cemetery. They tell you so much about the social history of an area. There are quite a few cemeteries around where I live that are abandoned and overgrown like this one. A few locked up to stop people going in and falling down into collapsed graves. (One about five miles away from me is usually locked up but one day the gate was left unlocked and I was right in there to have a look. Some of the graves had dropped about 5ft!)
Although sadly neglected they are a haven for wildlife. I think it all comes down to local authorities having very stretched budgets, and allocating funds to the upkeep of a long unused cemetery comes last on the list of priorities. Once a certain period of time has passed and those that visited the graves of their loved ones have also passed on there is no one left to complain about the state of things.
Psychomania 1974 thanks for watching! Yeah I notice you love a good mooch around a graveyard! Haha! So do I, as daft as it sounds I feel calm and peaceful when I’m there. I plan on doing a few more Graveyard vids soon! Sounds like I could film for hours with the ones near you! I couldn’t agree more with what you said about them being neglected. I think your right, it’s probably really low on the priority list.
Great video and very interesting, had a walk around where that lock keepers house is last year with the wife and thought it was really sad that it was in a dilapidated state and how neglected that area is.
Yeah its a real shame isnt it John, And with just a bit of money that area could be preserved back to its former beauty. Cheers mate
I remember when I worked with some older generations back in the early 2000s in Monton eccles they was trying to get planning permission to build on that graveyard. It was denied as a few people still alive with relatives in that cemetery protesting - they would have passed away or be very old now - so perhaps the council let it go to ruin so that eventually planning permission (a lot of backhanders within Salford city council for example unicorn pub eccles was torn down they stated due to asbestos which many people involved within that even workers for the council stated there was none because the high up in Salford council have been given secret “brown envelope” by developers whether supermarkets or big home builders like bellway homes. Also old historical pubs or buildings are mysteriously set on fire within Salford etc 🤷♀️ then the developers get the land they want) it’s a shame because the history of Salford and Manchester is very interesting. Great videos 👍🏻 I love history keep up the brilliant work
I think Peel Holdings own a lot of land so not Salford councils
I think it looks beautiful to be honest.
Good find mate. Would never have followed a dead graveyard, no pun intended 😉
haha cheers mate!
Whilst you were trailing this on Facebook I hadn’t clocked the fact it was “forgotten” which made the film more poignant for me. You did a great job on this one Mr. M, a brilliant watch mate as always. I was struck by the ages of some of the deceased actually, the couple whose children had died as teens and some of the others lived long lives for the time. It made me wonder if the Graveyard was rather exclusive in its day if you get me. The old picture you put in of it showed some extravagant head stones and that. Though you did mention some paupers’ graves so I don’t know. Anyway, looking forward to what you have for us next time mate. I need to watch your earlier ones as I only found your channel about 2 month ago. Great work Mr. M.
Thanks Paddy! I really appreciate It dude! Yeah those extravagant headstone would have cost a fair old whack back in the day. Hopefully something can be done about the current state its in. Im planning on going back in the winter once the wildlife has died so I can make out the graves a lot clearer. Thanks once again Paddy!
So sad indeed DM.😢 What about the future generations who might have had loved ones buried there, how would you find a grave when it's overgrown and been neglected. Quite sad indeed!!
Great video this... Really enjoyed it 👍
The Urban Project thanks a lot mate, glad you enjoyed it man👍🏼
Sounds like it is an abandoned catholic cemetery........The catholic diocece of salford should be notified and asked to restore the cemetery on decency and historical grounds. Such a shame to see this....
This is so sad. How do you just forget a graveyard that big?????
I know its such a shame... theres also another one nearby that I'm planning on filming! So sad... Thanks for watching ToMoon!
Real social realism.
Hello chaps, another way of looking at the neglected graveyard is a little green oasis for wildlife.....i could hear so many birds singing and there will be other little creatures as well such as the horrors that were biting you. 😉 take care, sarah. 🐶🐶🐶
You are spot on there Sarah! The wildlife flourishes in a place like this. I’m all for animals too 🐶
From what Ive heard the council are not in charge of any graveyard as such. Its the people who own the deeds to a grave are the owners and should take care of them .Thats why you see a lot of very old graves have fallen over because no one is still alive to look after them.
Would be great to see it cleaned up, though on a positive note, the overgrowth keeps the undesirables out.
Sticking to the graveyard theme, we went to weaste cemetery a few months ago to have a look round, some of the grave stones have shrapnel damage from ww2 where a bomb landed, bizarrely there was a group of people having a picnic.
Yeah most definitely keeps them out Stew. A complete lack of respect from the RC church / Council. These people had significance just like we did. haha really! quite mad to think someone would have a picnic in a graveyard...each to their own I suppose lol. Thanks for watching mate and as always I really appreciate it! cheers,
My Gran is in Weaste Cemetery, in an unmarked grave.
Michael Roberts is that due to the bomb damage? I assume a lot of headstones were damaged beyond repair
@@stewriley1183 no, she died in 1980 after a fall in our flat, 117 Walter greenwood court. No money for a gravestone probably and a woman who wouldn't want cremated. I was only eight when she died, I missed out on decent conversation with her
Michael Roberts shame
Wow! brilliant video, love the history. I have a question: when you mentioned people's names e.g. the Pastor and you had a picture of an individual appear on screen, was that a photo of the person whose grave it was or were the photos used for contextual purposes?
Hi mate, No that was just a photo of a pastor online that I thought the guy might have resembled back in the day. It just gives the viewer a bit of an idea of what people looked like back then. Its good for historical and nostalgic reasons. Thank for watching mate
Daft Monkey no worries, thanks for answering the question! Either way the photos are really cool to see, shows just how much everything has changed in around 150-200 years
Omg if its over 100 years old the developers might want to get hold of that land and clear all them graves for more high-rise crap I do hope not in the future nice find though
Okay
I think they put the gravestones on top of the graves to stop grave robbers , I should imagine the grave had four sides to make it into a box at one time
That would make sense Sheila, I never even thought of that. thanks for enlightening me
sacred ground cannot be touched until about 200 years after the last burial i think + the fact eccles was ecclesiastic /monastery the deeds are perpetual.? gl
Motler owner of Motler stores Eccles?
I believe so Andy, Im gonna do some digging into that, cheers mate
Another case of fly tipping by the church.
People probably passed on who have family in their but ye sad all the sad x
Be very very quiet in a grave yard mate if you wake them they will haunt you. And you don't want that amigo it happened to me I got home and went to the shitter and the fecking ghost jumped out and well you can amagine.
Eccles ain’t Salford mate.
It doesn’t matter where the council decide to set their boundaries.
Let’s get it right.
Tell that to Salford council.. 😁
@@daftmonkey7296 Salford like all councils are always happy to widen their boundaries giving them more money and power while not giving a toss for the culture of the area under their rule.
The real Salford boundary ended around Ladywell Hospital. Same with other outlying areas such as Pendlebury, Swinton etc which were never Salford and even spoke with a different accent.
We called them yonners as they sound more Lancastrian and less manc.