I found that when you drop that mid EQ slider all the way down then bring it back up slightly to taste, it's very effective in getting it into more metal territory. I miss my MKIV but I found it to be ear fatiguing after tweaking around with it so much. But I still loved it and miss it. May have to get another one soon! Good vid man.
You may already know but the two inner and two outer tube sockets can take different tubes, so if you put say 2 el34s in your 2 outer tube sockets and put it on half power your running on just those el 34s and on full power your blending the 6L6 and 34s, there’s another setting to get it down to less then the half power also. Great amp
@@db6268 my amp does have two different sets of tubes in it! Im not sure what kind though. they’re an odd shape from standard 6l6 or EL34s. Thaw labels have cooked off so I’m not sure what they are.
yeah when you get to the point of a re tube you could go all 6l6 or do the mix which are both cool options , And no biasing needed the mark IVs are “fixed bias” as Mesa puts it so that’s cool too
When everyone was grabbing Mark III’s, I grabbed some medium and wide head Mark IV’s. They’re beasts, but you gotta tame them properly or they’ll sound horrible.
Good that you can set the output that high! I set mine on 1, and it does not sound good when the output low.. but I can not put it louder, I just play at home! 😑
Great video! I have a Mark IV widebody combo - I'm told it was the last one made, but I have yet to validate that with the serial number. I'm never ever getting rid of this amp.
i also have a mark IV. its worth getting an eq and run it in the loop. scoop it a bit and push the highend and it will get that black album right away! GO NINERS
@@lordovthorn2747 as a guitar player and gear nerd I ask you, what’s one more amp? 😁 I owned a triple rec before but at the time I couldn’t turn up volumes like I could now so I sold it. I Really want to get a 100w dual rec soon. 150w is a bit much for this gigs I play! 🤣
@@anthonymontes44 I play a lot of outdoor stuff and have a 200w 212 for smaller shows with a 100w power amp and preamp for that setup but the big shows like The Palladium, Strand, Vault, House Of Blues or something it's all 150w's of glory.
I played on rectos for 13 years, got a mark 3 Redstripe, fell in love with the cleans. I picked up a mark iv, sold all my rectos but 1. Mark IV is absolutely amazing. If you know how to teak the amp, channel 2 is great also.
@anthonymontes44 Thanks man, I used to have a Mark IV, but I sold it when I bought my JP2C. I really like the JP, but the IV is a little more open and I miss it. Keep up the great work, you have really great videos and tones.
I always wanted to try scooping the mid slider on the graphic while cranking the midrange knob on the amp itself all the way up to see if it would counteract that natural scooping of the mids for high gain. I’ve always heard that cranking the mid knob will make the amp sound more huge compared if you turned the knob to 0 which gives off more treble bite in comparison. I personally don’t really see the point in scooping the mids in two different areas if you’re not going to try and compensate for the loss in the mids somewhere else in the EQ.
@@Stretchwreckedem469 the Mark IV is heavy in the mids. The first eq section doesn’t really affect the amps tone stack. It more affects the guitars signal going in to the amp. That’s where I say it’s like a built in boost. this amp has a weird learning curve. In fact the Graphic EQ affects the power section and not the pre amp. Where as the traditional amp eqs are active in the pre amp. I found that out when I ran a pre amp pedal to the power section and the EQ was still active after bypassing the amp input.
@@anthonymontes44 I remember hearing about the EQ on the face knobs, i’ve heard people say the important thing about the way it works is that it apparently acts to shape the general signal of the tone itself instead of the tone stack (especially as you said with how the amp sounds like there seems to be an overdrive in front as it is), while the sliders act as your general EQ, which is why i always found it kinda weird that people would tend to pull both the 750hz slider down and then turn the mids on the amp to 0 because whenever i’ve heard the mid knob being set to even 6 or 7 it always sounded much more bold and in your face compared to other amps where scooping the mids can be a big no-no unless you scoop the mids with an external EQ without killing some of your volume. Even with the graphic EQ though the Mark series of amps seems to be among some of the few amps where scooping the mids isn’t just accepted by users of these amps, it seems encouraged by a lot of users from what i’ve seen and heard from people who own these amps which is cool. The only amp i’ve played that comes close to how the face knobs seem to shape the actual texture of the gain as opposed to the tone stack are the Orange Crush amps. Idk if the Rockerverb tube amps do the same thing too but whenever i used a 6 band graphic EQ in the loop of my Crush Pro 120 the treble winds up turning into a presence knob, the bass knob lets you choose between having a tighter or looser overall tone, and the midrange knob seems to make the amp sound more bold the more you turn it up as well. Obviously the Orange isn’t as complex as the Mesa Mark series but it blew my mind how you can get very similar tones considering Orange amps are really simple in comparison.
Bass is thump, mid is body, treble is almost like drive and tone control . Set the EQ 5 band 1st then go back to the control kmobs to turn up or down to taste and gain should never go past 3 o clock for lead channel rythem tone the point is tight percussive and full bodied tone with rich midrange clarity
when you had it at 6/6/6 it sounded good actually and not boxy at all, not sure why you thought it wasn't cool, when you reduced the mids/bass it sounded hollow
@@mattvdh on its own at all 6/6/6, it does fill the room nicely, but in a mix it’s sounds way to thick and muddy! In Some cases I can hear where ultra thickness is wanted. But you gotta leave room for the bass lol
When you say football, are you talking about American football (a.k.a the one you play with your hands and not your feet)? Or are you talking about real football? :D
@@Tanax13 American football! I knew that was hot comment on the internet! 😆 I’ll take my licks tho!! If you’ve never tried to understand the game, I urge you to! These guys are like modern day gladiators. Other than hockey and rugby. I don’t think there is a more demanding/violent sport than American football!
@@anthonymontes44 I like American football! I'm just confused why it's called football at all, ha ha :D Anyway, cheers for the IV review! Beast of an amp! Are you interested in the IIC+ reissue?
@@Rondoggy67 Football is a great sport. Maybe the NFL isn’t as exciting and can be predictable. But high school or College ball…. 😱buddy you should really give it a good watch. Understanding the game might help change your perspective a bit.
@@thomasnewton6491 Thank you, Thomas! 😁 Rather than grill someone who doesn’t know much about somthing, I like to invite them to really give things a chance to understand them.
One of the best Mark IV videos on TH-cam, good understanding of amplifier, a joy to listen to your Metallica tones.
This is the best demo of this amp on TH-cam! Liked and subbed!
I found that when you drop that mid EQ slider all the way down then bring it back up slightly to taste, it's very effective in getting it into more metal territory. I miss my MKIV but I found it to be ear fatiguing after tweaking around with it so much. But I still loved it and miss it. May have to get another one soon! Good vid man.
The dark side of a lot of Mesa amps-the endless tweaking! You love what you dialed one day, and the next you’re like “that’s dogshit!”
Great tones and tutorial
You may already know but the two inner and two outer tube sockets can take different tubes, so if you put say 2 el34s in your 2 outer tube sockets and put it on half power your running on just those el 34s and on full power your blending the 6L6 and 34s, there’s another setting to get it down to less then the half power also. Great amp
@@db6268 my amp does have two different sets of tubes in it! Im not sure what kind though. they’re an odd shape from standard 6l6 or EL34s. Thaw labels have cooked off so I’m not sure what they are.
yeah when you get to the point of a re tube you could go all 6l6
or do the mix which are both cool options , And no biasing needed the mark IVs are “fixed bias” as Mesa puts it so that’s cool too
Great demo for the amp, almost convinced myself I could afford one!
@@FaseKeadog Thanks Dude! 😁 save save save!
@@anthonymontes44 Dually noted
I got mine for 1300 (Rev B)
Excellent video sir. I am sold on the Mark IV now. Just subscribed "_"
Also it’s cool to hear some riffs that aren’t chugging the entire time. 👍
When everyone was grabbing Mark III’s, I grabbed some medium and wide head Mark IV’s. They’re beasts, but you gotta tame them properly or they’ll sound horrible.
Good that you can set the output that high! I set mine on 1, and it does not sound good when the output low.. but I can not put it louder, I just play at home! 😑
@@omarheavy2009 two notes captor X 8ohm version will fix that!!
Yup, think I need one, but hopefully, it doesn't suck the tone!
@ I have one and it sounds great
Great video! I have a Mark IV widebody combo - I'm told it was the last one made, but I have yet to validate that with the serial number. I'm never ever getting rid of this amp.
i also have a mark IV. its worth getting an eq and run it in the loop. scoop it a bit and push the highend and it will get that black album right away! GO NINERS
@@patriknessboLemoran here’s to hoping 2025 brings a better season for our teams and great tones for our ears!!! 🍻
@anthonymontes44 yeah this season really sucked for both of us haha
Subbed immediately!
Bro do you remember the settings at 27:30? Sounds perfect
Sure do!
Ch3.
Lead Gain 7 (pulled)
Treb 6.5
Bass 1.5
Mid 1.5
Lead Drive 7 (pulled)
Master 5
EQ:
80hz +6db
240hz -3db
750hz -5db
2200hz -1db
6600hz +1db
Output Level 4
Lead voicing: Mid again
Pentode & Class A
Tweed power
@@anthonymontes44you my friend, are fantastic. Thank you! I can’t wait to try these settings on mine
@ this was also on UK v30 speakers with audix I5 and sm57 just off the dust caps
Great video man, I am a Metallica myself… the Mark IV really is one of the definitive amps in metal genre (and other genres also) I think
my dream amp as well but because of the Morrisound Florida old school death metal albums. I'm afraid it will remain a dream since I'm still jobless.
@@lovecraftmusic8717 don’t let dreams be stay dreams! Get out there and make it happen! 😁🤘🏼
@anthonymontes44 thanks for the support! 🙂
if I didn't already have and love my triple rec I might consider a mark series after this demo
@@lordovthorn2747 as a guitar player and gear nerd I ask you, what’s one more amp? 😁 I owned a triple rec before but at the time I couldn’t turn up volumes like I could now so I sold it. I Really want to get a 100w dual rec soon. 150w is a bit much for this gigs I play! 🤣
@@anthonymontes44 I play a lot of outdoor stuff and have a 200w 212 for smaller shows with a 100w power amp and preamp for that setup but the big shows like The Palladium, Strand, Vault, House Of Blues or something it's all 150w's of glory.
I played on rectos for 13 years, got a mark 3 Redstripe, fell in love with the cleans. I picked up a mark iv, sold all my rectos but 1. Mark IV is absolutely amazing. If you know how to teak the amp, channel 2 is great also.
Great chugging sir + 1 subscriber
What was the master set at? Sounds great
@@brandonbienvenu2278 on the masters I set to 5 and the output level I set to 4
@anthonymontes44 Thanks man, I used to have a Mark IV, but I sold it when I bought my JP2C. I really like the JP, but the IV is a little more open and I miss it. Keep up the great work, you have really great videos and tones.
@ thanks bud! 🙏🏼
🔥🔥🔥🔥
how does it sound with x pattern v30 t75 speakers ? have you tried them in this combination
@@mrshredder0076 I haven’t! I’m currently trying accurate 2 Celestion cream backs to do an Xpattern with one of my cabs
How do you like that combo?
@@mrshredder0076 I like it, I’ve heard it on a few of my favorite records.
Are you boosted channel 2? I dont remember mine having that much gain
@@Nathan-fv8rt yes. I had the Wampler Tumnus kicked in on CH2
@@anthonymontes44 sounds real good!
@@Nathan-fv8rt Thanks Bud!🤘🏼😁
I always wanted to try scooping the mid slider on the graphic while cranking the midrange knob on the amp itself all the way up to see if it would counteract that natural scooping of the mids for high gain. I’ve always heard that cranking the mid knob will make the amp sound more huge compared if you turned the knob to 0 which gives off more treble bite in comparison. I personally don’t really see the point in scooping the mids in two different areas if you’re not going to try and compensate for the loss in the mids somewhere else in the EQ.
@@Stretchwreckedem469 the Mark IV is heavy in the mids. The first eq section doesn’t really affect the amps tone stack. It more affects the guitars signal going in to the amp. That’s where I say it’s like a built in boost. this amp has a weird learning curve. In fact the Graphic EQ affects the power section and not the pre amp. Where as the traditional amp eqs are active in the pre amp. I found that out when I ran a pre amp pedal to the power section and the EQ was still active after bypassing the amp input.
@@anthonymontes44 I remember hearing about the EQ on the face knobs, i’ve heard people say the important thing about the way it works is that it apparently acts to shape the general signal of the tone itself instead of the tone stack (especially as you said with how the amp sounds like there seems to be an overdrive in front as it is), while the sliders act as your general EQ, which is why i always found it kinda weird that people would tend to pull both the 750hz slider down and then turn the mids on the amp to 0 because whenever i’ve heard the mid knob being set to even 6 or 7 it always sounded much more bold and in your face compared to other amps where scooping the mids can be a big no-no unless you scoop the mids with an external EQ without killing some of your volume.
Even with the graphic EQ though the Mark series of amps seems to be among some of the few amps where scooping the mids isn’t just accepted by users of these amps, it seems encouraged by a lot of users from what i’ve seen and heard from people who own these amps which is cool. The only amp i’ve played that comes close to how the face knobs seem to shape the actual texture of the gain as opposed to the tone stack are the Orange Crush amps. Idk if the Rockerverb tube amps do the same thing too but whenever i used a 6 band graphic EQ in the loop of my Crush Pro 120 the treble winds up turning into a presence knob, the bass knob lets you choose between having a tighter or looser overall tone, and the midrange knob seems to make the amp sound more bold the more you turn it up as well. Obviously the Orange isn’t as complex as the Mesa Mark series but it blew my mind how you can get very similar tones considering Orange amps are really simple in comparison.
Yeah, the Triple Crown 100 sent the mkiv packing. LOL
@@Chugg.Norris I’ve never played a triple crown!
Bass is thump, mid is body, treble is almost like drive and tone control . Set the EQ 5 band 1st then go back to the control kmobs to turn up or down to taste and gain should never go past 3 o clock for lead channel rythem tone the point is tight percussive and full bodied tone with rich midrange clarity
when you had it at 6/6/6 it sounded good actually and not boxy at all, not sure why you thought it wasn't cool, when you reduced the mids/bass it sounded hollow
@@mattvdh on its own at all 6/6/6, it does fill the room nicely, but in a mix it’s sounds way to thick and muddy! In Some cases I can hear where ultra thickness is wanted. But you gotta leave room for the bass lol
NOT a complicated amp!!! VERSATILE IS TRUE THOUGH!!!
@@nonamejustbecause-b9k It was in the beginning of my ownership! 😂
@@anthonymontes44 I will admit it seems so when you first get them.
When you say football, are you talking about American football (a.k.a the one you play with your hands and not your feet)? Or are you talking about real football? :D
@@Tanax13 American football! I knew that was hot comment on the internet! 😆 I’ll take my licks tho!! If you’ve never tried to understand the game, I urge you to! These guys are like modern day gladiators. Other than hockey and rugby. I don’t think there is a more demanding/violent sport than American football!
@@anthonymontes44 I like American football! I'm just confused why it's called football at all, ha ha :D Anyway, cheers for the IV review! Beast of an amp! Are you interested in the IIC+ reissue?
@ heck yeah dude!! I wanna grab one soon!
Nice video. But try getting into a real sport like Rugby instead of fake football 😂
@@Rondoggy67 Football is a great sport. Maybe the NFL isn’t as exciting and can be predictable. But high school or College ball…. 😱buddy you should really give it a good watch. Understanding the game might help change your perspective a bit.
@@anthonymontes44 a more than gracious reply to a redacted comment, nice demo and great playing Anthony
@@thomasnewton6491 Thank you, Thomas! 😁 Rather than grill someone who doesn’t know much about somthing, I like to invite them to really give things a chance to understand them.