FG KNOT: Top 3 Flaws (And How To Fix Them Fast)
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- It's FG Knot time again! In this video, we are going to share the top 3 scenarios when you should NOT use the FG knot (it's the strongest line to leader fishing knot, but it's certainly not perfect for every single line connection).
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What issues have you had with the FG Knot?
Ever lost a fish (or lure) because the knot unraveled? Usually it's because of too many casts through the guides on your rod or when you don't completely lock in the knot (lock in the coils) before cutting the tag end off.
At any rate, let us know if you have any other questions or experiences with the FG Knot (good or bad).
Tight lines!
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You are the only person and the only source that has made clear that your mono/fluoro leader must have a higher tensile strength than the main braid. Thank you for the words of wisdom!
Because everyone else knows better😅
I use a little super glue on the last coil to protect it. NEVER lost a lure casting through the guides.
interesting. I've used the FG to link 30 lb braid to both 14 and 12 lb copolymer or mono leaders and never had any issues (in freshwater). I even landed a 40 inch pike this year that swiped right at the boat. Nearly took the rod right out of my hands, and I still didn't even blink about the knot. Instead, the biggest issue for me when I was first learning to tie the FG, was getting the right amount of tension in the braid while making the coils. In short, too much tension wasn't allowing the leader to coil properly and too little would prevent the braid biting into the leader during sinching. Otherwise, you guys did an excellent job at explaining it in your original video. Literally changed the way I fish!
i use 15lb braid to 2-4lb fluoro leaders with fg knots and never had any problems.
Yeah I disagreed with that also. Most guys on the bass tour use the fog knot to heavier braid to lighter leader when finesse fishing
Same here, I've run 100 lb braid to 80 lb mono to catch GTs... never an issue
@Darth Ur braid floats dude.
Interesting video, I’ve been using the FG Knot now for around 20 years (yes I’m that old!) and from my experience these days there seems to be a mine field of what I consider to be miss information on tying this particular knot so I’ll run through them, please remember these are my views though years of using this knot with braid from PE 0.3 to PE 4 and leaders from 0.18mm to 0.80mm.
#1 more than about 15 wraps produce an inferior knot regardless of braid thickness, using more wraps does not allow for the knot to tighten properly it will always be loose at the top of the knot, even if you use an FG Knot tool.
#2 the knot can be used to connect a heavier braid shock leader to lighter braid provided that the braid shock leader is at lest 50% thicker than the lighter braid main line, and yes you can wind it onto the spool, we do it all the time when shore jigging, and I am yet to have it fail. Having just stated that you do need to be extremely patient and careful in the tying of the knot.
#3 If you need to melt the end of your leader into a ball for security to stop your braid and leader parting ways then you’re probably not tying it well enough!
#4 now this can be hard but resist over tightening the knot, it can cause catastrophic fibre damage to the braid. I fish up to 60lb braid PE 4 and rarely use gloves or line pullers to tighten my FG Knot and have had them independently tested at 92% of the actual breaking strain of the braid and never had one slip off the leader and I trim my leaders to 1mm!!!!
So that’s my views on the FG Knot, please understand I’m not bagging anyone or saying I’m right.
jmurray66655 so you only do 15 raps when you tie FG knots .I always cast my knots through my runners
David Raguse
Yes I only use 15 wraps, I tie the FG Knot by making a triangle over my thumb and forefinger, wrappers the tag and main line ends around my little finger. If you put too many wraps on the top end of the knot is not tight enough and will loosen over repetitive casting and then it will fail, I wind my FG Knots through the guides all the time 👍
@@jmurray66655 so with 15-16 wraps I shouldn’t have to worry about it failing when casting through guides?
im using 40 floro to 50 braid the floro is "thicker" in diameter does that mean im fine?
If course
Hey SS thanks for the update.
I love this knot and tie it as you showed in you video. However I've had it come untied when surf casting using 80 lbs mono to 30 lbs braid (exactly as in the example). I stopped using it in this situation but I will try it again paying attention to the info you just gave.
Thanks again
Cheers from Costa Rica
It would be awesome if you could include these tips on your knot video. I just sent my lure sailing off into the sunset and found this video when researching what went wrong. I broke most of your rules. Stronger leader. Knot two long and repeated casting through guides. Thanks for the info. It’s helping me to become a better fisherman. Mahalo
Only knot i use, i love it truly amazing
I love this knot, I've used it A LOT. I after cast through the guides because I'm using 6' leaders. The knot does get banged up but it's over a long period of time. I inspect it probably every 10 to 15 casts and I've had great results.
Try forming a small mushroom cap via a lighter on the leader behind your braid coils near your main line, I've been doing this after watching another TH-cam video without failure, the cap acts like a cleat for the braid coils to anchor against.
Haven't had an FG Knot undo itself since.
The fg with the rizzuto finish is the best fg in my opinion
I have been using 30lb braid to 30lb flouro on the same FG knot for months! Made the leader 14'. I have had no issues and I have hauled out 7+ lb bass from structure. Granted I cannot attest to in shore saltwater holding up. I would say that I tie this not before going out and ensure it is perfect. It does decrease distance a tad going through the guides but definitely works awesome.
Man I'm glad SOMEONE finally addressed this. There seems to be an entire generation of anglers out there that think this knot is the end all be all knot for every situation! If only there was a knot that could boast such a claim...
Thanks for watching!
Im using this knot now for a while on small and large diameter lines. Its the best knot ever. Never had a knot failure sofar. Especially you're bonustip is important, dont do to many wraps! I usually do 15. Another really important thing to do is pull the leader and braid wearing gloves really hard before cutting the leader end. After tightening and cutting the leader, I also use a lighter to create a little mushroom on the leader as a extra security against slipping. Thanks for your amazing video's man! I learned a lot from you guys, keep them comming please. Tight lines!
I never have to wrap it around my hands or use gloves to cinch, I got that Gorilla grip from learning how to palm basketballs with 8 inch hands 💪🪢. I do have hyperhydrosis tho so in warmer weather I wrap it around my hands just once, also sharpening knives alot and testing edges will also toughen up the skin on your hands, never been cut by braid when cinching or casting.
The weak part for me is the half hitches however not sure about passing through the guides being the issue! I thought that was the point of the knot!!
Hey, quick situational question. I have a leader tied via FG knot that I cast through the guides, and I've been using it with lures at the start of the fishing session, no problems. Let's say in the middle of the fishing session the lure bite dies off completely and I want to switch to live/cut bait and I need to tie a rig at the end, say a paternoster rig, that starts with a swivel. Do you recommend I tie the rig's swivel at the end of the leader or would it be better if I cut off the leader and tie the rig's swivel to the braid? Can you visualize what I'm talking about? Thanks in advance.
Oh, also is it okay if I burn off the tag end of the mono leader when I cut it off in the FG knot so that it swells a bit and gets more secure?
What about casting through guides with the double uni, bad also or more manageable?
It depends what line diameters! This video stresses just how important specificity is when it comes to knots, so you should be as specific as you can with your questions. That said, I use 20lb braid with 10lb fluoro most of the time, and I use the double uni. I am fairly certain that casting thru the guides eventually will weaken any knot. I reinforce my uni on the backside of the fluoro portion by adding a series of half hitches snugged right up behind it. This essentially "sandwiches" the fluoro portion of the knot between two sections of braid knot. I have noticed far fewer breaks at the connection since starting that.
I am glad I watched this.. was about to change from uni-uni to FG, main reason was for castability which is what most people say is the reason the FG knot is better than that click/pop of the tag end of the fluro/mono going through the guide sometimes breaking guide rings. I cast all day on the flats and dislike having 3 or 4' of leader hanging out my rod tip.
Thanks for watching!
I’ve used 8lbs test Fluoro to 10lbs braid and have not had a problem
Can you put a drop of superglue to the top coil to prevent it from coming loose?
It is not recommended
I use the fg for connecting 10# braid to 8# floro. It's not easy but it work!
For some reason on slicker lines like powerpro my double hitch always comes undone I guess due to less friction, and i dont like triple risutto finish because its too hard to cinch ive tried double and triple risuttos. Even those still come undone after 3-4 hours of fishing sometimes, never had that problem with spider wire finishes just seem to hold better on that line. (I do fish 20-25ft leaders sometimes so maybe that is why my finish is not holding for long periods of time flying through guides constantly)
Thanks for sharing!!
@@Saltstrong I actually find making less wraps actually makes the finish cinch up a little better especially if your super careful when finishing the knot I'd say its the most important part if you screw the finish up the whole knots screwed
The Mono/flouro doesn’t necessarily need to be stronger than the braid, but it should be equal, i used 20lb braid and an fg knot with a topshot of 30 yards of 12 mono for yellowtail and mahi mahi, so the knot was going through the guides countless times, and it performed flawlessly
Use braid to braid with fg knot. Catch diamond back sting rays, raggies and all sorts of big fish with it.
I am using the FG knot (Finishing ? -----) from 10# braid to 20# trilene leader however my new Fitzgerald reel has microwave eyes. Can I reel the knot into eyes are should I cast w 20” of leader hanging loose? Has you know casting w that long leader is difficult. Can you offer any solutions
I have 2 Fitzgerald casting rod , I use 30lb braid and 15lb or 20lb floro leader with no issues going through the guides, if I'm flipping I use 50lb braid with 20lb floro I just make my leader 3' long so I don't go through guides, hope that helps
Would glueing this knot help with any of these issues?
This knot if tied correctly. Needs no glue. I've caught big bass with no issues.
When you say less turns for thinner braid to leader, what is the least number you can get away with with say 10# braid and 15# Fluro ?
Great question! Make sure to ask this over in the Community (www.saltstrong.com/) where the coaches spend their time.
I use 8# braid main to 6# flouro leader. Consistently break at the Palomar lure to leader vs at the FG knot. FG is great for any size braid to any size leader imo
i melt the braid tag end with a lighter to help it hold, seems to help if going through guides
Good video also make sure that the leader is always thicker that the braid otherwise the braid don’t grab unto the leader and the braid will slip of .
Have you ever thought about putting crazy glue on the first coil so it retains it's integrity?
What the hell is crazy glue?
@@thedon9670 Also referred to as super glue or cyanoacrylate.
I have been using this knot for braid to mono for some years, never had a problem. But recently when joining thinner lines (20 lbs), the know just comes of for no reason. And it's not when I just finished it, there is apparently super ok! Any ideas ? Such has never happen with like 40 lbs braid..
Continue to practice. Since switching to this knot we have found success!
I've had this knot fail too many times. User Error im sure. I mainly bass fish so Im running longer leaders, sometimes 15' on my drop shot. Double uni and palomars seem to be my go toos. Alberto is money as well. With any knot, if your catching em...Re-Tie often.
So true. I retie after any fish over 2 lbs.
I have had the problem with the knot being weakened by casting through the guides enough times that I have gone back to a double uni on a short leader. However, this video sparked what I hope is a solution. I'm going to tie a braid line uni in front of the FG and let it take the hit while casting. It will not be part of the primary knot and tied with an extra bit of braid. The idea is to let it be what fails and simply tie another uni when it does. I'll update when I have results.
Let us know how that works out!
@@Saltstrong Didn't work. The Uni won't stay in place and moves along the length of the leader.
@@Saltstrong Well THAT didn't work. It drastically increased the damage to the leader. A 6lb leader broke at the knot on the third hard cast.
I'm going to start experimenting with a double Uni that has fewer wraps and tightened down very hard to reduce diameter. I'm going to test strength every ten casts to see how long it will last.
Question, you say the leader needs to be stronger than the braid? Wouldn't line diameters be more important? Leader material being smaller than or equal to diameter of braid would seem more likely to cause knot failure. 10lb to 10lb or 15lb to 15lb would seem fine, mono and floro both have larger diameters than the lb braid.
Yes, I just mentioned strength because most people only focus on strength of their lines... very few know the diameters of the lines that they use. And as the strength goes up, so does the diameter for the given line types.
It's not knot flaws, it's user/gear flaws. Best knot out there!
Go cast it hard through the guides for a day and then get back to us.
I use a uni to uni for leader and a uni for hooks and a uni for lures. It’s simple just wrap more times for more strength and never go through guides. You only need a couple feet at most of leader.
For certain fishing a short leader is fine. Uni knot is nice too but I prefer San Diego jam knot for terminal gear . Very similar to tie.
After repeated casts, my half hitches eventually start to come loose. I use crazy glue now as added security on the half hitches. So far so good.
Lovin House on your last half hitch, wrap braid tag end around main braid line 3-4 times, it will lock hitch closed, no more unwinding.
@@rogerr7856 I had the same problem and like Roger above says do the normal half hitch around the braid only in addition to a half hitch around braid and your fluoro
Same thing is happening to me, after repeated friction of going thru line guides it eventually comes undone at the last half hitch. Happens all the time, sucks when it happens out in the water.
same issue. don't know why i'm looking at these videos again. hahah. I tried crazy glue, tried UV knot sealer, tried rizzuto finish. Eventually, that tag end gets beat up from going through the guides so many times and loosens up. Any sealer or hard Crazy glue gets cracked and broken away and then the fraying starts. I will say this connection is good for other uses though alike trolling or drifting or any application where it's not steady casting every 20 seconds.
I have used 50lb braid to 30lb/40lb fluro or mono leader and I have never seen the fg knot fail yet. When I do get snagged on rocks from jigging and I have to break the line: the leader always breaks in half at the loop on the hook (loop knot). Key notes: I use a 1 inch fg knot and I always tightn the knot with gloves on (tight as you can pull it sally). I also use a 4 -5 foot leader and I never take the fg knot thru the guides. Why stronger main line you ask? Because when I get snagged and must break the line, I'm ready to just cutt any abrasion off the leader and tie another jig on. No wasting expensive braid/leader or missing crucial tide change times. I have straightend out 7/0 mustad hooks with fg knots still holding (80lb leader). I fish for monster snook in heavy structure. My personal best is 48''
Hey SS: Thanks for the updates. As I always make a fluoro leader 5 feet or longer, I am always casting through my guides. So I have stopped using FG knot and will "knot" go back to it.
What knot do you use right now
Oh man, I lost a lure today, my leader was 4 lbs and my braid was 10 lbs.
Did you mean that the mono/FC needs to be thicker than the braid?
Although the first point is correct. I cannot fully agree with points 2 and 3. Where I live, this knot is mainly used for small creek trout lure fishing with less than 16 pound strength lines. The whole purpose of using FG knot is to be able to cast the knot through the extremely small guides of the UL fishing rods. Additionally, I always pick fluoro leader, which is just below the strength of the braid. The idea is to not have to retie the whole FG on the river if part of the leader breaks. One Palomar and I am ready to cast again.
Even though I can tie the knot in a minute or so, it is more difficult to tie it when dealing with such a small diameter of lines. It is not possible to hold #0.8 braid with your teeth, so in order to apply tension, I use the method, where i tie the end of the braid to the reel handle and use the rod for tension.
2 is wrong
The length of fluro does it need to be twice the length of the rod . Also how do you avoid the knot going through the guides
I like a rod length of leader, fishing top water you can get away with as little as 3 feet
@@jonnywaselectric thank you
@@alby910 if you are fishing lighter lines under 20lb a uni to uni is a great knot, I don't bother doing the FG for 10lb and under, it is challenging, the FG is much easier to learn with say 60lb to 80lb mono and 30lb to 50lb braid, you really need to cinch it down well, best using a glove on the braid so it doesn't cut into your hand
@@jonnywaselectric x
People just can't tie em. I've been using the same FG for a few weeks. Its caught snapper, sharks, my wife's 1st Bull Red. Its casted through the guides on every cast.
They either can't tie or their braid is barbage.
The knot is not the issue but rather sloppy tying of the knot which causes it to fail. Using a Rizzuto finish after your locking half hitches will prevent the knot from unraveling. I don't even use the locking half hitches anymore but I wouldn't recommend this unless you are very comfortable tying this knot and you can tie it well with a high level of consistency. FG is designed to join braided main line to a mono/fluoro leader and it works just as well joining braided mainline to a braid leader. It is a bit more difficult to tie braid to braid initially but you'll pick it up soon enough. It is the most common method of joining braided main line to a braid or mono leader amongst us South African Rock and Surf anglers.
10lb braid to 6-8 lb floro all day long , no issues, best knot by far , guys who have issues arent tieing properly
about 60 casts through the guides and the knot breaks for me (still me favorite knot)
Tie the pr knot
I cannot tie this knot, can some1 left handed tie it and make a video? Using modified albright, many years only a few break offs..
just doit left handed
Luke,
What about coating the knot with a thin coat of epoxy to protect it ?
I think glue shouldn't be used on any knot, epoxy and CA aren't flexible. A well tied FG are excellent, ideally you should only use it for one day then cut it off along with about 1 meter of braid, the reason for trimming the braid is the spot you are holding your finger for casting has slight wear and is a weak spot.
I use a drop of the UV cure glue. I keep a bottle of it and a small UV flashlight in my tackle bag.
Edit:use the glue after you have fully tensioned the knot.
@@jonnywaselectric I use a drop of glue only to protect the knot. I fish on pylons and docks, the fish always run behind them. So I start with 12ft of fresh leader, and have to cut about a foot off and retie the lure after every fish. By the end of a good day I'm down to a foot of leader.
@@mlenz2553 if you are confident in your knots and it works that is what counts
I've used rubber cement
Like others, I have had no problem tying higher pound test braid to lower test mono. I regularly tie 10# braid to 5 or 6# mono and fluoro, up to 65-80# braid to 20-30# mono. I think the real issue is that the diameter of the leader needs to be larger. I’ve virtually never had an FG fail in fishing, but I can’t say the same thing about uni to uni knots, blood knots, etc.
I have found the FG doesn’t do as well with some of the fused or super slick lines and the like (Fireline, Nanofil, Gliss...).
Note as well that the vast majority of my fishing is in freshwater, and if I’m in the salt, I’m fly fishing more often than not.
I had it slip on 50lb braid tying to 60 lb mono. I was wondering if it was the finish on the braid. Forgot what brand braid the shop spooled the reel with other than 50 lb, but it feels more slick than the PowerPro.
I typically use 30 lb braid and 20 lb fluoro leader, the only time this ever came undone was when I was casting through the guides. So I don't cast through the guides any more! I think I'll try just going 15 wraps or so.
Are you using casting or spinning gear?
Spinning
@@SSHitMan I highly recommend going down to a 10 lb braid (max 15) if you're targeting fish that can be caught with a 20 lb leader because you'll get MUCH better casting performance without much (if any) loss in actual pulling strength. Here's an experiment testing the casting distance from 10 lb to 20 lb braid... so 30 lb would be a much wider margin: www.saltstrong.com/articles/casting-distance-experiment-10-vs-20-braid/
@@Saltstrong Here in Chicago I target fall king salmon, which can get well over 20 lbs. Besides that my reel holds 300 yards of 30 lb braid, I don't even want to think how much 10 lb braid I'd need! Yeah I could back it with mono but when I've done that in the past I have issues with wind knots when the line snags on the knot when casting. Casting distance really isn't an issue in the Chicago harbors, any further and I'll be hitting boats. My salmon rod is 8.5 feet long so that helps a lot! Even when I go down to Florida once a year to fish inshore I can cast plenty far, my inshore rods are 7.5 feet and I fish from a kayak so can pretty much get anywhere I need to go to reach the fish. But in Florida I'll often use a 30 lb or 40 lb leader especially when I'm fishing mangrove lines/oyster beds in current for snook or redfish. I just don't have an arsenal of perfect rod/reel/line combos I can use for every occasion so have to settle on "one size fits all" as best i can.
@@SSHitMan Roger that!
This knot has failed me a couple of times because I cast it often through the micro guides on my Rapala Koivu rod. Micro guides and knots (even the FG knot) just don't go together well (so I'm now avoiding rods with micro guides). I was also using a Rapala Snow with a Shimano CQ and this knot (slim as it is) hitting the micro guides on its way out would also cause backlashes, so much so I did away with having a leader (hence no knot whatsoever). Retrieving the knot through the first micro guide constantly also weakens the knot, esp when it snags at the first guide and you just force-wind it through. And it's not just the first wind of the knot that is important. Once the tag end unravels, that's it-the knot will just slip off. That said the FG knot is still the slimmest knot you'll have to tie if you have micro guides on your rod.
Thanks for making time to leave the helpful comment! The issue you described is exactly why I don't like rods with micro guides.
I have found a little dot of super glue at the leader side makes it last much longer. Use the gel type and smooth it out as it sets. Just dont cover the whole knot because it won't be flexable. Works for me on tuna trips and ive never had an fg fail.
Why is everyone bitching about the first wrap getting frayed by going through the guides? Name a knot that’s made for braid to heavy leader that doesn’t have the same problem. Albright/Alberto? Sorry first wrap same thing, plus you have that big leader tag bump when you cast through guides. Yucatán? Nope. Uni to Uni, same thing. Moral of story Braid isn’t always better. You get more line capacity, but horrible abrasion resistance compared to mono. You get amazing feel, which is good, but not necessary in all situations. Ask yourself, why do you spool up with 50-65lb braid for “heavy cover” when you know 17-20 mono would do the same? Because if braid scratches across anything it will break. So check your knots and leader often throughout the day, and retie as needed.
Just saw this. I’m a little late to the party. I’ve been using the FG/Rizzuto Finish/drop of super glue now for a couple of seasons without a problem, casting the knot thru my guides repeatedly. I’ve even been using the knot successfully on 6lb nanofil to a 6lb fluoro leader. The nano is so slick and the fluoro so thin that the knot will often slip when attempting to tighten it down. The solution is to tie a double overhand knot in the flouro, then cinch down the FG. The FG knot in the nano will slide down to the overhand knot in the fluoro, then tighten-up against the overhand knot. A Rizzuto Finish, followed by a drop of superglue and away you go. I’ve landed 20lb pike and dozens of big hard-pulling smallmouth on the same knot. Will try reducing the number of FG wraps as suggested here.
Why is is slipping out? The knot is perfect. 8lb hybrid and 20lb braid for bass.
The FG knot shouldn't be used for a 20 lb braid to an 8 lb leader... it's specifically for connecting a lighter braid to a stronger leader. Instead, I'd go with double uni knot.
This did not help at all. Literally the main problem with the FG knot is tying it. No matter how careful I am on my wraps and doing two half hitches, as soon as I try to cinch the knot my leader just slips right through the braid. What am I doing wrong?
charlievillanuevafan69 watch several TH-cam videos on it. Seriously, that’s what I did and have tied it perfect every time. Tip 1 use the tension method on the main line, it’s easier. 2) as your wrapping give each a little tug with the leader tag that you are wrapping with and the braid , it will help stack the wraps better and you will have ZERO slippage when it time for hitches. 3) only do a couple of hitches before you tighten, moisten the knot with Silvia and then get gloves and pull like living hell on the main line and the leader. Pull hard as you can. You’ll see the braid compress the leader. 4) you can finish the knot with a few more hitches, you don’t have to do a risotto 5)all of this assumes your using a lighter braid and heavier mono/flour like 20 braid to 40 mono, etc.
First time I had the knot slip was tying 50lb braid to 60 lb mono. Pulling tight the mono slipped. Hands cut all the time. Tied it again, seemed fine but then it slipped again. Could it be the finish on the braid? First time this ever happened. Thoughts? Thx.
It’s the overhand knot coming loose that’s the problem
I’m going to experiment with UV glue over the knot.
Isn't being able to cast through the guides kinda the point? Otherwise who cares how big the knot is. #1 mistake is not properly cinching the coils down before the finishing knots. You can't just give both sides a tug. You have to pull HARD.
What? I've only used heavier braid to lighter flouro for years and never had a break. 40lb braid to 20lb flouro all the way to 100lb braid 80lb flouro. #2 is unequivocally false.
Im not exactly sure how or what the fg knot is suppose to do, so if everyone is using a 30 pound braid and a 100 pound flurocarbon; any you hook a fish thats 80 pounds, won't your braid break dispite having 100 pouns leader, sorry... I've been fishing all my life and just recently heard of a fg knot.
The reels have drag systems that can be adjusted to whatever line you're using. So a properly set drag should ensure that your line never breaks from a fish unless it gets your line wrapped around in some sort of structure. Here's an example of a 50+ lb fish being caught with just 10 lb line: th-cam.com/video/K9cJeyjxeFk/w-d-xo.html
It failed me many times!!!!!!!
Bad line or tieing it improperly
Didn't all your previous videos recommend 20 coils and now you're saying use less, no wonder people are confused!
20 is the number that is most commonly recommended. The reason I highlighted the need to go less is for those who are at risk of the knot coming undone (casting through the guides every cast or using a braid that's close to as strong or stronger than the leader)... many people seem to add more coils above 20 if they fear that the knot will slide off, but that often makes the risk higher because it decreases the ability for the very top coil to dig into the leader.
There is no magic number bud. It's just a guide. The number of wraps will vary from line to line. The point is you need to get all the wraps to bite into the leader and to many wraps will prevent this. Obviously too few wraps will cause the knot to slip. Trial and error. There are too many variables to be able to create precise knot tying formulas but the technique remains the same.
If a knot needs 50 videos to show how to tie it is not worth dicking around with it. Your reel has drag, your lines have much higher braking points no need for FG. Alberto knot is just a tad thicker but works and no guessing. I fish tuna and only use uni to uni or Alberto. A great knot is the one you can tie with confidence not its braking point.