Remember to subscribe! Full list of changes: Tilts: -Sheik F-tilt -Roy D-tilt -Fox U-tilt -Fox Jab1 -Falcon Gentleman -Sheik Dash Attack Smashes: -Fox Up Smash -Marth F-Smash -Peach Down Smash Aerials: -Link Nair -Fox Up Air -Falcon Knee -Puff Bair -Falco Dair Specials: -Falco Shine -Bowser Grounded Up B -Falcon Grounded Side B -Marth Grounded Neutral B -Falco Aerial Laser -Fox Aerial Side B -Fox Aerial Up B Throws: -Sheik Down Throw -Peach F-throw -Fox Up Throw -Ness Back Throw (also he has Bowser ledge attack)
I feel like this could be a fun game mode, you draft moves of the entire cast to build your custom fighter. Maybe each player can even ban a few moves. Fun video! Crazy Frankenstein fighter LOL
Watching it definitely had me theory crafting, trying to decide which moves I would change for my theoretical best character, it'd be a huge project but one I think a lot of players would love
>Replacing shine in the air with rest is bad because you need it for falco combos My brother, can you imagine falco combos if the very reliable aerial shine is now an equally sized frame 1 move that now kills
Been wondering what this would look like, now I know! I love that peach’s dress comes out of fox’s body when he’s doing her fthrow like he’s summoning her power lmao
@@JustLikeYou. and it should be 6/25 or 5/25 because falco sideb and falco uptilt are much better... If anything this shows how busted falco's moves are
We did one for Project M not too far from this- give Sheik a normal short hop height, a 14f dash (for a wider DD), and a weight dependent upthrow. It's actually pretty crazy how much Sheik's ability for aggression is held back by her attributes, esp considering how good they are in other places.
watching this makes me realize how close Falcon is to being an even better character, if he had a reliable combo starter (stomp is somewhat slow so it's rarely true without a read) that would bop people up in the air he would be getting consistent 80% stocks with knee, wild
opening the video and hearing Tank! directly after coming home from my sister’s high school jazz band concert where they also played Tank! sure is something
i feel like falco bair might be better as like a killing aerial with almost instant start up and an active edge guarding tool. jiggly bair seems harder to utilize overall in the context of the whole kit.
what if someone made a mod where they gave shine the spiking hitbox on the bottom half and the launching hitbox on the top, that way you could sorta have fox and falco's shine in one.
My bro and I play modded smash ultimate but it plays more like melee. He modded only a few of the characters but the game is much better and much faster. Fox has a down air just like this fox, on the ground fox has falco's shine but foxes shine in the air, his b up or fiya has been extended, he lasers also hit like falcos and can also chain grab with any of the grabs. We do a challenge against modded sheik who has a learning A.I. or something like that so sheik learns how you play and we dont restart the game so sheik continues to learn. We do 30 lives but can only lose 10 lives and if we lose start over. We are at an even further boosted sheik but as of now are stuck because sheik also has buffed moves, marths grab range, wider hit boxes, double or triple danage lol. Modded smash ultimate is one of the best games I have ever played. We can also L cancel which is extra fun.
this is so f'n cursed LMAO this Fox's Movelist as far as I can tell: Sheik FTilt, Fox UTilt, Sheik DTilt, Marth FSmash, Fox USmash, Peach DSmash, Fox Nair, Falcon Fair, Fox UAir, Falco DAir, Puff(?) Bair, Falco Neutral B, Fox Forward B Bowser Ground Up B, Fox Air Up B, Fox Down B, Peach FThrow, Fox UThrow, ??? DThrow, Mewtwo BThrow, Peach(?) Dash Atk, Bowser Getup Atk - lilY!
How broken would this character be if it had Quick Attack in the air instead of Fox up-b? The only thing worse about it is the extra landing lag, but in return, you get a better, faster, less telegraphed recovery and instant platform cancels.
I didn't upgrade to be able to chat in the Patreon but wanted to know if the Marth grounded neutral B is meant not to deal damage unless it's fully charged. It still seems to do set knockback though.
Imo shiek’s Fair is a little more broken due to its reliability and combo ability at low percents, while also being pretty safe, but knee has a lot of that going for it too + kill power so I get the choice
Yes it has a case for sure. Just felt like knee’s killpower + the weak hit’s edgeguarding and combo potential outclassed it for me. Plus it’s super iconic
I feel like he's right about air downB being rest would complete this mod. Because like hbox jab reset into run up jump rest is a totally busted finisher. And up throw rest. All the best classic rests happen in the air, and shines are more grounded like waveshines. The only good air shines are fox's shinespikes but you didn't put fox's shine so even more reason for air downB to be rest. And falco's airshine for immediate shine Bair is so niche and situational. I really think you should consider air downB be rest. I only give so much feedback because I think it's an amazing mod and I have no idea how you did all of it. Care to explain what files etc you modded too?
Moveset Draft Ideas: 1: A New Heavy Nair: Bowser Dair: Ganon Fair: Ganon Bair: DK Up Air: Dk Neutral B: DK Side B: Bowser Down B: DK Up B: Bowser Grab: DK Throws: Dk Jab: Ganon F-Tilt: Bowser Up Tilt: DK Down Tilt: Dk Up Smash: DK F Smash: Ganon Down Smash: Bowser 2: Glass Canon Nair: Link Dair: Falco Fair: Marth Bair: Puff Neutral B: Samus Side B: Falco Down B: Puff Up B: Luigi Grab: Marth Throws: Marth Jab: Falco F-Tilt: Marth Up Tilt: Marth Down Tilt: Falco
Hey man! Playing this mod rn with some budies and it's so fun, just 1 little thing though, is there a way you can make it so we can play regular fox against cracked fox?
Low-key a little surprised that you didn't use one of Zelda's Lightning Kicks. I can kinda understand B-Air, but I can't imagine a better move for a character with this kind of mobility and precision.
her sweet spots are only active for 1 frame. Falcon knee is also strong, easier to hit and has a useful sour spot. Even among forward airs, marth and sheiks are probably better than zeldas. Back air has stiff competition with the absurd spacing from puffs or dks as well as bairs that ko more reliably like ganon and falcos. Funnily enough her up b is probably better than foxes'. Same with mewtwo and maybe game and watches.
@lt2660 I would definitely say Mewtwo's Up-B is better for the raw speed. Fox's I can see the argument since Zelda's might be a little slow but it almost entirely safe the whole way through.
It’s honestly moreso for entertainment value. Though there are qualities that make falco shine have a case. It allows you to confirm a lot of kills that Fox would struggle to find. It’s true that Fox shine can pseudo infinite people but with SDI you can get out. Also Fox shine doesn’t get as many gimps against players who know how to recover well.
@ tbh I think this is a factor of puff more than the bair itself, it’s not a bad move but I’d probably say sheik, fox, falco, falcon, ganon and DK all have better bairs, and puff would be even more of a bair menace if she had them instead
Hey man I'm working on new characters for melee right now and I'm wondering if you would be able to help me get them in the game? Love your mod/mods. I don't think cpt falcon knee is broken btw. I'm a link main and I dodge it all the time.
New characters are extremely difficult. You will need to learn to code in C, use HSDraw, use m-extool, texture, animate, etc. I would recommend by learning texturing/modeling first if you’re a complete beginner. There are some tutorials in the m-ex discord which you can find from the Akaneia vids
@@PigsSSBM Can you help me with that? I'm doing the turtles and Shredder, Chrome Dome, Rat King from Turtles Tournament. I forgot how easy modeling and animating is. I'll upload a video for you if you want just to show that I'm serious. I modeled and animated professionally and made apps professionally(in js not C) so this stuff is cake. I know C but writing C code for melee sounds really hard. I've only done that for Quake.
@ apparently I was out of the loop with that. My front page actually had a video exposing him after I made this comment oddly enough. And don’t worry I’m already subscribed.
Yeah it’s annoying cause he made good videos before all that stuff. Thanks for subscribing I hope I can deliver some good content, the modding scene really doesn’t have a lot of TH-cam people
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Full list of changes:
Tilts:
-Sheik F-tilt
-Roy D-tilt
-Fox U-tilt
-Fox Jab1
-Falcon Gentleman
-Sheik Dash Attack
Smashes:
-Fox Up Smash
-Marth F-Smash
-Peach Down Smash
Aerials:
-Link Nair
-Fox Up Air
-Falcon Knee
-Puff Bair
-Falco Dair
Specials:
-Falco Shine
-Bowser Grounded Up B
-Falcon Grounded Side B
-Marth Grounded Neutral B
-Falco Aerial Laser
-Fox Aerial Side B
-Fox Aerial Up B
Throws:
-Sheik Down Throw
-Peach F-throw
-Fox Up Throw
-Ness Back Throw
(also he has Bowser ledge attack)
since peach fthrow is already a kill throw, why not have pikachu backthrow to up the backthrow gimp potential? :p
i'm curious, why did you decide to use knee over zelda kick and use fox as the body?
@yeans3rdor4thchannelicantrembr because knee is good and lightning kicks suck lmao
Why does he have Shieldbreaker and not Flareblade? Flareblade is just always better.
For aerials add Falco dair
I feel like this could be a fun game mode, you draft moves of the entire cast to build your custom fighter. Maybe each player can even ban a few moves. Fun video! Crazy Frankenstein fighter LOL
Yeah that would be sick
i want to play this right now
This is honestly a really good idea! lol
Would be cool to see in general I think! :O
Watching it definitely had me theory crafting, trying to decide which moves I would change for my theoretical best character, it'd be a huge project but one I think a lot of players would love
You can Build this feature with AI in a couple days
>Replacing shine in the air with rest is bad because you need it for falco combos
My brother, can you imagine falco combos if the very reliable aerial shine is now an equally sized frame 1 move that now kills
If its equally sized then it would be shine+rest, rest is about the size of puff's eyeball, but yeah exactly that ain't falco
shine is about the size of falco's eyeball too rofl
Been wondering what this would look like, now I know! I love that peach’s dress comes out of fox’s body when he’s doing her fthrow like he’s summoning her power lmao
Armada words echoed through my head. “Down Smash,” Adam stated with a quiet urgency.
Its funny that half the moves are still just foxes moves. Goes to show how broken he truly is.
Yuuuuup
I mean 7/25 closer to 25% but still a lot lol falco sheik and falcon “only” have 3 each
@@JustLikeYou. and it should be 6/25 or 5/25 because falco sideb and falco uptilt are much better... If anything this shows how busted falco's moves are
@@MrGunner121 found netplay fox that struggles vs falco
He even took away fox shine which is definitely better than falcos. Fox is just nastyyy
We did one for Project M not too far from this- give Sheik a normal short hop height, a 14f dash (for a wider DD), and a weight dependent upthrow. It's actually pretty crazy how much Sheik's ability for aggression is held back by her attributes, esp considering how good they are in other places.
give fox the same amount of jumps as jiggs and its complete
the ultimate melee character
watching this makes me realize how close Falcon is to being an even better character, if he had a reliable combo starter (stomp is somewhat slow so it's rarely true without a read) that would bop people up in the air he would be getting consistent 80% stocks with knee, wild
Yeah falcon with falco shine would literally be broken
opening the video and hearing Tank! directly after coming home from my sister’s high school jazz band concert where they also played Tank! sure is something
Fire I love jazz so much
Yoshi Egg as shield, please.
A Frankenstein monster.
i feel like falco bair might be better as like a killing aerial with almost instant start up and an active edge guarding tool. jiggly bair seems harder to utilize overall in the context of the whole kit.
Yeah I agree but puff bair does have its strengths. I wanted some more variety as well which contributed to my decision.
Ganon bair could be good too.
6:08 star ko model is nightmare fuel here
AI generated melee lol
This Melee Mii is pretty cursed
You forgot to add another fox so he’s truly has every broken “move” Fox climbers rise
what if someone made a mod where they gave shine the spiking hitbox on the bottom half and the launching hitbox on the top, that way you could sorta have fox and falco's shine in one.
Literally zetterburn in rivals lol
@@PigsSSBM we getting Rivals mods inside Melee before GTA 6
@@randomacountboy I think there’s a video of mine you’d like ;)
My bro and I play modded smash ultimate but it plays more like melee. He modded only a few of the characters but the game is much better and much faster. Fox has a down air just like this fox, on the ground fox has falco's shine but foxes shine in the air, his b up or fiya has been extended, he lasers also hit like falcos and can also chain grab with any of the grabs. We do a challenge against modded sheik who has a learning A.I. or something like that so sheik learns how you play and we dont restart the game so sheik continues to learn. We do 30 lives but can only lose 10 lives and if we lose start over. We are at an even further boosted sheik but as of now are stuck because sheik also has buffed moves, marths grab range, wider hit boxes, double or triple danage lol. Modded smash ultimate is one of the best games I have ever played. We can also L cancel which is extra fun.
"I gave fox every broken move in melee"
Now see how many of his moves are still fox?
0:51 the dress coming out was very unexpected lol.
2:43 is when things start heating up
Found this on my recommended then realized halfway through that I played you on unranked an hour ago. Weird. Good vid btw!
What a coincidence ggs lol
If you do this again, you should try sheik bair (or keep fox bair), peach dash attack, falco side b, falco uptilt, and peach nair
I might change up the moves and put them on falco then they can fight
LMFAO crazy concept 😂
this is so f'n cursed LMAO this Fox's Movelist as far as I can tell:
Sheik FTilt, Fox UTilt, Sheik DTilt, Marth FSmash, Fox USmash, Peach DSmash, Fox Nair, Falcon Fair, Fox UAir, Falco DAir, Puff(?) Bair, Falco Neutral B, Fox Forward B Bowser Ground Up B, Fox Air Up B, Fox Down B, Peach FThrow, Fox UThrow, ??? DThrow, Mewtwo BThrow, Peach(?) Dash Atk, Bowser Getup Atk - lilY!
Posted a full moveset list as the pinned comment
Doraki Instant Walljump into Knee would be sick too see
Magnificent. Much cooking has taken place to unleash this behemoth 🍳👨🍳
Imagine a high level tournament where everyone uses this character lmfao
Just make shine kill like rest but still act like shine and proceed to watch the world burn
He just doesn’t have the tools
He can finally go even with Marth
how is bro's channel so underrated wtf
Its crazy how you not only made a busted moveset, but all the moves work so well together
I was genuinely finding bread and butters with this character lol
shoudl've given him falcon upair as its seen as the thing that makes ppl not able to go to plats against falcon
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Excellent vid
Okay, so obviously no illusion makes his recovery worse, but imagine samus missile and falco laser together
I agree that there were a few moves that might’ve been better for grounded side b
They should make a melee game where you can choose moves to put onto your character
Nasty work. Hilarious model too lmao.
Now we need Fox to have the worst moves in Melee
FrankenFox is pretty cool
That’s a good name
should have given him giga bowser's up b lol
How broken would this character be if it had Quick Attack in the air instead of Fox up-b? The only thing worse about it is the extra landing lag, but in return, you get a better, faster, less telegraphed recovery and instant platform cancels.
You should give him Yoshi’s double jump armor
new character : "mr melee"
Ayo what is the song at 2:55
Respect your elders- instrumental from chillendude
Respect your elders instrumental by Chillin Dude
respect your elders instrumental goes crazy here
If only he had bowser side b for the true shenanigans.
I didn't upgrade to be able to chat in the Patreon but wanted to know if the Marth grounded neutral B is meant not to deal damage unless it's fully charged. It still seems to do set knockback though.
Oh if that’s happening it’s probably a bug
Would love to see what it looks like with DK or Samus neutral B
Omg this looks so fun!! Haha i want to try this whit my friends. If its on your possibilities keep modding king 💪
What do you call this monstrosity!
hey w the fire fox w marth stock would be fun to add the Mario wall jump after the up B xD
Basically Perfect Cell (but SSBM).
biblically accurate fox
this feels like slap city more than melee
I wonder if you could give him double jump armor
Imo shiek’s Fair is a little more broken due to its reliability and combo ability at low percents, while also being pretty safe, but knee has a lot of that going for it too + kill power so I get the choice
Yes it has a case for sure. Just felt like knee’s killpower + the weak hit’s edgeguarding and combo potential outclassed it for me. Plus it’s super iconic
Yeah rest in the air would have been crazy, but he already got knee so rest is kinda redundant
Interesting video
I love this idea, he should have pika up b tho imo
Dittos with this seem really fun
They are. The neutral is blisteringly fast and the punishes hit harder than ever lol
10 year old jimmy's overpowered OC be like
I would have done DK's up air for combo extensions
rest with knee seems a bit redundant, I think the shieldpressure from shine is much better
This is so sick!
Was hard to choose between rest and shine for downB huh
Yeah it was, felt like shine had more utility tho
I feel like he's right about air downB being rest would complete this mod. Because like hbox jab reset into run up jump rest is a totally busted finisher. And up throw rest. All the best classic rests happen in the air, and shines are more grounded like waveshines. The only good air shines are fox's shinespikes but you didn't put fox's shine so even more reason for air downB to be rest. And falco's airshine for immediate shine Bair is so niche and situational. I really think you should consider air downB be rest. I only give so much feedback because I think it's an amazing mod and I have no idea how you did all of it. Care to explain what files etc you modded too?
And I also think Luigi has the best nair. Frame speed, combo breaker AND combo starter. Nothing comes close. #1 🏆
@@PigsSSBM Rest is just a free kill on every techchase tho
& Pika might honestly have the best upB
whats the mix made in 2:50
Respect Your Elders Instrumental
@@PigsSSBMwait so chillendude did make the beat, thats crazy. Also no joke the moment I heard it I paused the video and watched respect your elders
Ps leffen i ain't done yet
Now give him puff air speed and jumps
Moveset Draft Ideas:
1: A New Heavy
Nair: Bowser
Dair: Ganon
Fair: Ganon
Bair: DK
Up Air: Dk
Neutral B: DK
Side B: Bowser
Down B: DK
Up B: Bowser
Grab: DK
Throws: Dk
Jab: Ganon
F-Tilt: Bowser
Up Tilt: DK
Down Tilt: Dk
Up Smash: DK
F Smash: Ganon
Down Smash: Bowser
2: Glass Canon
Nair: Link
Dair: Falco
Fair: Marth
Bair: Puff
Neutral B: Samus
Side B: Falco
Down B: Puff
Up B: Luigi
Grab: Marth
Throws: Marth
Jab: Falco
F-Tilt: Marth
Up Tilt: Marth
Down Tilt: Falco
this is sick wtf
fox with knee 💀
You should make rest jump cancellable
imo I'd change to falcon's up air, ganon's jab, kirby's up tilt
Falco uptilt way better
The coolest thing I've seen that I've wished for
grounded neutral b shouldve been charge shot
now do fox vs puff but they trade shine and rest 👀
What’s the song at 1:36
I believe it is Driftveil City Theme if I recall
People are forgetting driftveil city that's crazy.
@playstationarusu the kids don’t know
@@playstationarusuikr, the kids will never know or acknowledge the best Pokémon generation of all time!!
Hey man! Playing this mod rn with some budies and it's so fun, just 1 little thing though, is there a way you can make it so we can play regular fox against cracked fox?
I’ll give it a shot
It should have DK cargo throw but with Marth grab
Can you give him float?
Low-key a little surprised that you didn't use one of Zelda's Lightning Kicks. I can kinda understand B-Air, but I can't imagine a better move for a character with this kind of mobility and precision.
her sweet spots are only active for 1 frame. Falcon knee is also strong, easier to hit and has a useful sour spot. Even among forward airs, marth and sheiks are probably better than zeldas.
Back air has stiff competition with the absurd spacing from puffs or dks as well as bairs that ko more reliably like ganon and falcos.
Funnily enough her up b is probably better than foxes'. Same with mewtwo and maybe game and watches.
@@lt2660 Needs Mewtwo air dodge, can grab the ledge with it too
@lt2660 I would definitely say Mewtwo's Up-B is better for the raw speed. Fox's I can see the argument since Zelda's might be a little slow but it almost entirely safe the whole way through.
But does it have Samus Crouch Cancel?
Nah that would’ve meant changing his weight
no shot you gave him falco shine 💀 this guy thinks fox has the worse shine 💀
It’s honestly moreso for entertainment value. Though there are qualities that make falco shine have a case. It allows you to confirm a lot of kills that Fox would struggle to find. It’s true that Fox shine can pseudo infinite people but with SDI you can get out. Also Fox shine doesn’t get as many gimps against players who know how to recover well.
imagin with luigi wavedash xD
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Thank you :)
bro bowser up b into sheik dash attack into peach downsmash LOL. You forgot link's nair and up B.
I did links nair
They made a cooler more magical scrumpy
The magicest scrumpy
So good
What's the full list of changes?
full list here: gamebanana.com/mods/568165
puff bair is legit a nerf lol, fox bair is a way better move, same with sheik bair
And peach dash attack would be better imo
@ tbh there’s a lot of em I disagree with, sheik dash attack is fine if it gives you the boostgrab
Puff bair helps contest platforms and far recoveries a lot
@ tbh I think this is a factor of puff more than the bair itself, it’s not a bad move but I’d probably say sheik, fox, falco, falcon, ganon and DK all have better bairs, and puff would be even more of a bair menace if she had them instead
How do I download this
It’s in the description
Now do the exact opposite, a character with every worst move in melee. Just imagine…
Hey man I'm working on new characters for melee right now and I'm wondering if you would be able to help me get them in the game? Love your mod/mods. I don't think cpt falcon knee is broken btw. I'm a link main and I dodge it all the time.
New characters are extremely difficult. You will need to learn to code in C, use HSDraw, use m-extool, texture, animate, etc. I would recommend by learning texturing/modeling first if you’re a complete beginner. There are some tutorials in the m-ex discord which you can find from the Akaneia vids
@@PigsSSBM Can you help me with that? I'm doing the turtles and Shredder, Chrome Dome, Rat King from Turtles Tournament. I forgot how easy modeling and animating is. I'll upload a video for you if you want just to show that I'm serious.
I modeled and animated professionally and made apps professionally(in js not C) so this stuff is cake. I know C but writing C code for melee sounds really hard. I've only done that for Quake.
Yeah man connect with me on discord pigs6003
Pikachu up B would be busted
Trueee
Why fox up smash over pika up smash?
Faster by a frame, bigger hitbox, better reverse hitbox in case of miss, but pika’s has a case
peach dash attack?
omg hi pigs this is awesome
this is cactus from cactus melee btw
Yo what’s up sorry I haven’t played in a while haven’t really found time
need cargo f throw
Fox 1.0 stale dair is the best move in the game (cant sdi)
I miss magic scrumpy
He stole mods unfortunately, but I can fill the shoes so you should sub ;)
@ apparently I was out of the loop with that. My front page actually had a video exposing him after I made this comment oddly enough. And don’t worry I’m already subscribed.
Yeah it’s annoying cause he made good videos before all that stuff. Thanks for subscribing I hope I can deliver some good content, the modding scene really doesn’t have a lot of TH-cam people
no pikachu up smash ?
Fox Up smash is faster by a frame and has a way better hitbox size
was really hoping to see dk fthrow
Yeahhh I avoided it cause 1. It’s kinda technically multiple moves and 2. It’s hella difficult to code
@ makes sense, great job on the mod!
but did you give him dk taunt tho...
(ik technically luigi's the best taunt cuz it actually has utility but that's the 🤓 pick)