THE GENIUS OF MARCY WU'S DECEPTION - Amphibia - Analysis

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  • @theluigifan1
    @theluigifan1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1579

    Mar-Mar’s betrayal doesn’t even feel like a true betrayal. Feels more like she was driven by her own hubris and fear of losing likely the two closest friends she’s ever had. Of course, I’m not excusing what she did but I guess I understand her on a better level. I love her so much. 😭

    • @CharlesJThomas
      @CharlesJThomas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      Big agree, she's great

    • @genericbeansmile756
      @genericbeansmile756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Yeah, I like that during True Colors, Marcy''s reveal is made out to be as bad as what Sasha did because of how shocked Anne becomes, but then as Anne gets time to think about it she will probably realize that Marcy was only half as bad as Sasha because Sasha had less reason to team up with Grime than Marcy had to team up with Andrias (although Sasha being imprisoned in an old castle in a swamp as soon as she gets to Amphibia while Marcy gets to explore a majestic palace in a waterfront city does give Sasha some more excuse for being grateful enough to Grime to be loyal to him)

    • @maem7462
      @maem7462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      I completely agree. While her actions weren’t right you can understand why she did it. You feel bad for her. You can also understand why Anne and Sasha would be upset by that as well

    • @toadlord8594
      @toadlord8594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@genericbeansmile756 also during Toadcatcher she was conflicted on her feelings towards Anne after Reunion and things wouldn’t be the same. Plus Grime was the only person she’s certain she could count on and understand to an extent. Not like she was gonna let Yunnan kill him, at the Tim she wouldn’t even have any idea where Anne was anyways.

    • @MrGabeanator
      @MrGabeanator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@maem7462 I’m with you

  • @mmangaboi_5355
    @mmangaboi_5355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    This is one of the main reasons a lot of people headcanon marcy as autistic, including myself. Its not so much her being "toxic" as just a general lack of awareness of others while shes wrapped up in her special interest, which seems to be puzzle games. this also plays into her insecurities regarding anne and sasha, as some autistic people find it hard to make friends or relate to others. she was simply scared and made a rushed decision, which was also partly directed by andrias.

  • @InazumaSensei
    @InazumaSensei 2 ปีที่แล้ว +978

    I wouldn't even call Marcy's betrayal as a "betrayal". Sure, she planned behind her friends' backs to continue their adventures rather than coming back home, but I don't think she would have really, like, _forced_ them to follow her. She's not Sasha. She thought that, once explained her reasoning, they would have followed her and lived happily ever after. She was naive and delusional, but once hit with the crude reality of the two of them _not_ wanting that, after a bit of desperation like the one we saw (albeit probably a bit less dramatic), I think she would have realized the gravity of the situation and would have come back on her steps. That, of course, until Andrias showed his True Colors...

    • @CharlesJThomas
      @CharlesJThomas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      Yeah I think she's a good, caring person and definitely won't have to try too hard to redeem herself

    • @SaraBethCox
      @SaraBethCox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Plus she didn’t know the box would actually work in the first place

    • @TheVoiddreamer
      @TheVoiddreamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Exactly she didn't deceive or had any bad she was just desperate in that situation

    • @fictionverse7292
      @fictionverse7292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Though she caused them to be trapped in Amphibia and lied about going home

    • @InazumaSensei
      @InazumaSensei 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@fictionverse7292 She didn't even believe it would have worked. Did she _hope_ it would have worked? Sure. It _is_ technically her fault? Also yes. But it was the delusion of a teenager who was fantasizing an escapism without even believeing it would have been possible. And about the lie regarding going home, as I said I doubt she would have gone through with it once she knew how much the other two would have been opposed to it.

  • @skyazureeclipse1496
    @skyazureeclipse1496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +384

    Despite her toxic and deceptive actions, I still can’t help but feel bad for Marcy, she’s such a likeable character and she clearly wasn’t in the right state of mind when she manipulated the events to send the three to amphibia, she isn’t purposely trying to hurt her friends, only trying to live out the fantasy world she wants to live with her friends
    Also she’s just so adorable so I feel obligated to defend her

    • @joshuagleeson4776
      @joshuagleeson4776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I mean it's easy enough to defend her since she's clearly not a bad person. She was a naive and distraught child that made a terrible and impulsive decision. She hadn't intended to hurt anyone, and was able to realise that's exactly what she had done when the truth was revealed. There was nothing bad about her intentions, even if her actions were bad, and her motivations were understandable given the circumstances she was in.
      She's suffered the consequences of her actions, and it looks like they're gonna drag her through the mud some more with the possession shit, so she deserves a happy ending when everything is said and done.

    • @liamphibia
      @liamphibia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Does she uh... Need hug?😟
      Imma good hugger.

  • @francisfatta
    @francisfatta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +636

    She’s the character I’m definitely most interested in what they do with in season 3

    • @toadlord8594
      @toadlord8594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      There’s still an air of uncertainty on whether the Night will truly make her into its Vessel and from the Season 3 trailer with Yunnan and Olivia carrying Marcy. What if that was intentional on Andrias part I wonder?

    • @johnhayward998
      @johnhayward998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@toadlord8594
      Well what if they want to rescue marcy away from andrisas
      Also the white void that people speculate that they also transported to earth like Anne the planters

    • @pissinspector8771
      @pissinspector8771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      she's busy being a pickled teenager

    • @toadlord8594
      @toadlord8594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnhayward998 we don’t know what’s going on in Marcy Wu’s mind, I.e the Night could have entered her mind and biding its time to strike/possess Marcy.

    • @johnhayward998
      @johnhayward998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@toadlord8594
      Well maybe but we do know yunnan and Olivia will be saving her and I did this theory that
      The characters in the sneak peek intro on the right side represent earth I believe marcy yunnan and Olivia are going to earth not sore how maybe Marcy add the cordness and boom to earth

  • @MegaChickenfish
    @MegaChickenfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    4:25 I mean she was *considering others* , but, in true Marcy Wu fashion, became so tunnel-visioned in doing a thing that she neglected an important detail (the bog). It's like how I love the character flaw in Sasha is her narcissism, but she does it in a way that's not the typical supervillainous sociopathic narcissism you might see in cartoons, but that she *does* care about people, but once she gets it in her head how she wants things to play out, she'll say "no, we're doing it my way, they'll thank me for this later." Like "No, Anne can't go home and have her birthday with her family, we're going to do what I want her to enjoy, which is so much better because I thought of it."

  • @troperhghar9898
    @troperhghar9898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +264

    After seeing the marcy theme takeover all I want is to reboot amphibia following marcy as the main character

    • @CharlesJThomas
      @CharlesJThomas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Ikr lmao that was great

    • @maem7462
      @maem7462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Honestly I would love to see all the events from her point of view

    • @toadlord8594
      @toadlord8594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Would be ecstatic to see either the main series from her POV or make her the main protagonist in a reboot.

    • @tinodethuong
      @tinodethuong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Maybe a few prequel episodes would suffice, a lot of good shows take breaks from the main character's point of view to see the other's perspective.
      also makes me think what Anne would be like as a side character..

    • @adampkalb
      @adampkalb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tinodethuong The day before yesterday I sort of entertained (just to myself) the idea of Amphibia making a very special episode to be a PSA about Anne and Marcy being the victims of a few anti-Asian hate crimes before they were in Amphibia, and teaching us why they are bad and how we should stop Asian hate crimes. Do you think Matt Braly would want to do that in this third season where we see people from Anne's hometown? September 19, 2021, 2:19pm

  • @startrooper6910
    @startrooper6910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Although I wouldn't want to call my favorite character "toxic", I do have to agree. Her toxicity isn't as harmful as Sasha's, where she tries to control every situation she and her friends end up in, but she can unintentionally harm her friends. Matt had said in a stream that Marcy's life wasn't all perfect, so it makes me question if her parents are truly bad, or in some aspects strict and don't really take Marcy's opinion into consideration. Her fear of being alone comes true, despite her attempts at preventing it. She ends up being alone even though she tried preventing the move and going back to Earth. I hope we get a lot of Marcy and Sasha development, and see Marcy reconnect with her friends. Hope we also see what Sasha and Marcy's home lives were like compared to Anne's. I'm excited to see Mar Mar again.
    I absolutely love Marcy!!!

  • @veronicapiccinini7956
    @veronicapiccinini7956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    I knew she was going to betray Anne (after all, Matt Braly warned us about her toxicity being a major spoiler), but I thought it was because she wanted to be a “somebody in a RPG-like world” rather than a “complete nobody back on Earth” (even Anne described her as “the clumsiest person alive” which is not exactly a nice way to introduce your best friend).
    I’m glad that it turned out to be something sympathetic and in itself not necessarily a bad thing as long as you don’t push it too far.
    Anyway Marcy Wu is similar to Luz Noceda. They are both adorable nerds who struggle to stay in the reality, they both used to be miserable in their previous life back on Earth, and both decided to stay on the “other world” on purpose for reasons who sound selfish on paper, but they are in reality sympathetic.
    However, there are some differences between the two of them:
    1) Marcy wanted to stay in Amphibia with her only friends out of desperation at the thought of getting separated from them because of his father’s new job out of state, and hated the idea of being alone. And it’s heavily implied that her relationship with her parents is not a happy one (but it’s too soon to say “they are abusive towards Marcy”, we need to wait and see if it gets explored in Season 3). Furthermore she was backstabbed by the people she thought she could trust them.
    2) Luz, on the other hand, while she chose to stay in the Demon Realm to live her witch fantasies at first, she thought it would last for a summer, and never expected she would found a Found Family, some friends who instead of making fun of her eccentricity accept her for who she is, and most of all, even a girlfriend. But she was forced to destroy the portal to delay Belos’s plan, and she did want to find a way to go back home. If anything, the reason why she wants to come back is her mother who, despite they don’t always see eye-to-eye, they love each other.

    • @brentdye1504
      @brentdye1504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And may eventually allow the villains to use dimensional travel with the results of this accept to stay the fantasies will be the ultimate price.

    • @SaraBethCox
      @SaraBethCox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      With luz and the portal, I’m sure Marcy would want to find a way back home if she was against something evil (saw Andrias’ intentions). Luz wasn’t looking for a way home until she was forced to because of Belos (finally encountering the emperor) and because he had plans to invade the other world. Marcy didn’t have that catalyst so of course she’d want to stay. Luz would want to stay if she wasn’t forced to go back to save her mother

    • @brentdye1504
      @brentdye1504 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SaraBethCox Did you know how an person feel like their fantasy world will holding them back if any villains using dimension travel for evil.

    • @SaraBethCox
      @SaraBethCox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brentdye1504 could you please reword that?

    • @moonriver33
      @moonriver33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wait how do we know marcy had a miserable life?her parents havent done anything wrong from what i can see

  • @johnhayward998
    @johnhayward998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    I hope season three could help with this issue
    It's pretty clear that Marcy suffered social anxiety and seeing sasha and Anne as a comfortable group as lasting repercussion
    Marcy could see the errors of her toxic trait and try to correct it and make up for what's she done not just for Anne and sasha but mostly herself

    • @CharlesJThomas
      @CharlesJThomas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yeah I definitely think we'll see her make amends and learn from her mistakes in this season

    • @johnhayward998
      @johnhayward998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@CharlesJThomas
      I hope so same thing for sasha to

    • @toadlord8594
      @toadlord8594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@johnhayward998 well of course Sasha is going to start her redemption arc in season three there’s been signs of it in Season twoB and her moment in the end of True Colors has given me prove it’s definitely starting. Along with a few pics in the season 3 trailer, specifically Anne’s journal which will be a heartbreaking scene.

    • @johnhayward998
      @johnhayward998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@toadlord8594
      It's really is a heartbreaking moment

    • @esf34147
      @esf34147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      She definitely already realized and did all she could to fix it. She literally sacrificed herself for her friends, went to save sprig, and gave anne the portal back home to make up for her mistake. I'm excited to see what her relationship with anne and sasha will be like in season3

  • @olamideakinola7297
    @olamideakinola7297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Amphibia is one of the best stories to come out in cartoon period. This show has everything you could want in a cartoon.

    • @CharlesJThomas
      @CharlesJThomas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Big agree, I'd say it's pretty damn perfect

    • @liamphibia
      @liamphibia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep!👍
      To bad Svtfoe didn't go all that well.😒

  • @Doll-Cinder
    @Doll-Cinder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Surely she was wrong. But we are also made to understand that the relationship that Marcy and Sasha have with their parents is very toxic. I mean Anne missed her parents, it shows that their relationship is healthy. While Sasha and Marcy not only don't miss their parents but find it okay to be in another world to escape home.
    This is all pretty terrifying...

    • @thelasttrueblade6684
      @thelasttrueblade6684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's a bit iffy as Sasha and Marcy were never in a position (on screen) to express wether they miss their families or not

    • @Doll-Cinder
      @Doll-Cinder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@thelasttrueblade6684 As for Sasha, there were many elements of her relationship with her parents. For example when she says "Maybe I don't wanna go home and rule a school. Maybe I wanna stay here and rule a kingdom." That she doesn't miss her family? Another quite revealing phrase is "my box, my rules" a clear reference to the phrase "my house, my rules". Then there is the phrase "end of discussion" it is strange to hear that from a child, but from adults ... Then there is the phrase "stay with your friends who love you" (when she has to convince Anne not to come home for his birthday) strange phrase right? It is as if she meant "stay with those who really love you not with your parents" there would be other phrases from Sasha ... As for Marcy it is important to look at the details, (for example how the contacts are saved in the address book) 👑 Sasha👑 DAD. When Marcy runs away from home You can hear the sound of something breaking , may have been Marcy who broke something, or not ... Neither parent runs after Marcy to make sure she is okay. Also Marcy has known Anne since they were about four, right? Could it be that Marcy's parents didn't know her daughter's best friend's birthday? The same friend since she was four? There are two options 1 either they knew it and didn't give a damn, (why ruin a day like that for their daughter ?!) 2 they didn't know and that means lack of dialogue (for example in the fridge of the Boonchuy family there is the favorite ice cream by Marcy) Could it be that Anne's parents know Marcy's favorite food while Mr. and Mrs. Wu don't even know when Anne's birthday? (I apologize for my very bad English)

    • @joyc.e.7511
      @joyc.e.7511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@Doll-Cinder You made some great points! And your English is fantastic. I always felt that Sasha spoke kind of strangely at times, and you hit the nail on the head: she talks like a parent in control. Her controlling tendencies must have come from somewhere. If she's treated like this at home, treating her friends in the same manner, to give HER some of her own control, makes sense. The cycle of abuse (I don't know if I'd go far enough to say she abuses her friends, but you get what I mean) in a way.
      And I definitely get the implication that Marcy doesn't have an awesome relationship with her parents. Even if they'd told her they were moving due to their job, the fact that she wants to stay in Amphibia and doesn't even think about them, is somewhat telling.

    • @Doll-Cinder
      @Doll-Cinder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@joyc.e.7511 Yes, that would explain Sasha's behavior, she is not justifiable anyway, you can't use the excuse of a difficult past to hurt other people, but it sure makes us understand why she always behaved like this. Sasha grew up in a loveless family with people who didn't appreciate her for who she is. It is true she is manipulative, but she is also determined, courageous, protective, she would give her life for her friends (in fact when toads tower collapses she let herself go and if Grime hadn't been there to save her she would have died there, how desperate she can be to try and kill herself?) It is no coincidence that she and Grime are so close, Grime appreciated Sasha for who she is, complimented her on her skills and gave her recognition, that's why she does not want to go home, because she would not only leave Amphibia but also Grime (he has rather questionable methods but he is not toxic to her) is sad to say, but Grime probably cares a lot more about Sasha than his real parents.

    • @xempororhxppyx
      @xempororhxppyx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Doll-Cinder Your bad english? English is my first language and even I can make mistakes-

  • @hasmhas
    @hasmhas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    There's also the simple matter that the show keeps pointing to Andrias as being the untrustworthy one as early as Marcy at the Gates.

  • @xxlasthopexx2603
    @xxlasthopexx2603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    To be honest I was mixed on this, I was crying over Marcy’s fear of being alone and for being the one who knew what the box could do and over her betrayal by Andrias since this wasn’t the outcome she wanted and because all she wanted was to keep everyone together desperately whatever the cost. I know what that’s like.

  • @kaseysings2570
    @kaseysings2570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I was actually just thinking about this! it's very interesting that throughout the entirety of the second season, marcy never once gets a narrative of her own. unlike with sasha in eps like toadcatcher and even battle of the bands, we don't get any insight as to what marcy's thinking, her fears and insecurities and motivations behind her actions. episodes that should've been focused on here weren't; with the first temple focused more on anne and hop pop, new wartwood told mostly through anne's perspective, and maddie and marcy being about one of maddie's flaws, not marcy. as such, we mostly see her character the way that everyone else in the show does, and i think that's why true colors is so jarring to watch the first time! we the audience - just like anne and sasha - are caught off-guard. it's such wonderful storytelling, and i hope that season three gives us more insight into her personal narrative and experiences!

  • @galaxionart9338
    @galaxionart9338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    We were all warned by the season two ops. Marcy is turned away from Anne and Sasha with her hood covering her face. It always made Marcy look like an antagonist or anti-hero like in many anime ops. Yet we still walked into trusting her like how Marcy walks into danger. Props to the Amphibia team for pulling the wool over our eyes while simultaneously warning us we were going to be tricked.

    • @liamphibia
      @liamphibia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      To bad some of us didn't notice!
      *Sigh*😞

  • @toadlord8594
    @toadlord8594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Can’t wait to see Season 3, everything is going to be so Damn epic!!

    • @CharlesJThomas
      @CharlesJThomas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Totally dude!

    • @d4xn4v
      @d4xn4v 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      FRR

    • @toadlord8594
      @toadlord8594 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CharlesJThomas Least until Owl House Season 2B to await us in a few months.
      And possibly Helluva Boss Episode 7 and eventually 8 next year.

  • @SonicGurl82
    @SonicGurl82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The most interesting about this is how much the show is always directing our attention to Sasha while keeping Marcy's 'toxicity' hidden. They even threw hidden bits and pieces of it throughout season two. We all thought Marcy is a little overconfident and eager and maybe too trusting....until we realized how seriously dangerous those traits are when her friend's lives are put in danger.

    • @a-s-greig
      @a-s-greig 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heh heh... those same traits might just end up saving the day.

  • @marcfals2449
    @marcfals2449 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My favorite part is that Marcy's involvment was rubbed in our faces since season one and, even tough some people suspected something was of, no one really saw this coming

  • @Rynziie
    @Rynziie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how The three act as human representatives for esch frog species. anne with the frogs, Sasha with the toads, and Marcy with the newts. The species really do fit each of their personalities tho

  • @victorrodrigues5674
    @victorrodrigues5674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I didn't know that you've watched Amphibia too! I'm glad this underrated show is getting to more people. Hope to see more videos of this serie on this channel

    • @CharlesJThomas
      @CharlesJThomas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Oh you definitely will! It's like my fave show with Owl House rn lol

  • @captainbeckyrayshoichetuss6418
    @captainbeckyrayshoichetuss6418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1. Her cuteness is the ultimate boss to stop you from finding her true intentions.

  • @anominon
    @anominon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think one of the biggest things I take away from Amphibia is that the fear of losing friends almost always leads us to do things that drive them away. To truly maintain a friendship, you need to give eachother understanding, empathy, and build trust. Each of the three girls lack that understanding and empathy towards another to some degree, but Anne is the only one to *learn* from that when she comes to Amphibia and become more considerate and make an effort to understand those around her, she's the only one who doesn't treat being in Amphibia as some kind of game... and she's also the only one who seems to love her family enough to truly want to go home... which makes me wonder about what kind of homelife Sasha and Marcy have and if that's part of why they act the way they do.

  • @MarcyVA
    @MarcyVA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    We need an Owl House and Amphibia crossover

    • @CharlesJThomas
      @CharlesJThomas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      i wiiiish. The table read crossover was good tho

  • @tofustories3403
    @tofustories3403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    when I was watching it for the first time, meeting Marcy and how she was in episodes, I didn’t “click” with her yet
    She seemed suspicious to me, because
    I thought that “ Anne had troubles with sasha, but has a perfect friendship with
    Marcy, no troubles at all? That’s weird,
    I feel like she’s gonna betray or something”
    Now, I really love her, and feel SO bad about her manipulation and how it ended up with her being played right into King Andrais’ hands

  • @grayfox4819
    @grayfox4819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Yeah, I put Marcy's twist at the same levels of the Creepy Luz's one in The Owl House. We never had clues of her Stranding she and her friends in Amphibia on purpouse until the flashback in the finale, so nobody saw that coming.
    If you think about it, Disney shows trend to make better twists than the theatrical Disney Movies. Think of the Author of the Journals in Gravity Falls, or the truth about Creepy Luz, or Marcy's truth, these twists were completely unexpected, because they were very well built, by only giving the feeling that something fishy was going on, but we still couldn't immagine how things would have turned out to be.
    In Disney's animated movies, the twists are always phoned since the beginning, and it feels like the writers don't even try in making things shocking at all. How come that creators of animated shows are more cut for this than the writers of super expensive theatrical movies? Go figure...

    • @mrpay4444AYypIgEDLbwfZm4kjaQk
      @mrpay4444AYypIgEDLbwfZm4kjaQk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There were some clues but it was hard to tell whether marcy was just being weird or not. It would be hard to spot the sus if you weren't a mega sus detector.

    • @xempororhxppyx
      @xempororhxppyx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There was a couple clues , for example , in the season 2 intro , when the lightning cracks as Anne and Sasha are fighting, Marcy is seen in her hood while holding the Calamity Box , its a little strange that Anne (the one that got the box) doesn’t have it and it is instead with Marcy , who is looking mysterious.

  • @squib3825
    @squib3825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can actually see myself doing something similar, tbh. I'd of course tell my friends that "hey this box is supposed to have ~magic powers~" but, especially when I was 13, I would've done anything to stay with my friends.

  • @FuckTheYoutubeUsernameChange
    @FuckTheYoutubeUsernameChange 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Marcy's problem isn't really selfishness. In her mind, she was doing this for all three of them. Yes, it WAS selfish, but that's not her motivation. She does care about how her actions affect others, but she get's so wrapped up in her own mind, that she is unwilling and/or unable to see the negative effects her actions have.
    I think the best example of this is the episode where she tried too hard to be accepted by the town, because it's mirroring what she did with the calamity box. It starts with a genuinely nice thought - wanting to help the town by improving the architecture. She loves the way Wartwood looks already, she's not doing it because she thinks it should look different. But it only takes one selfish influence (in this case the mayor) and Marcy getting too invested in what she's doing, for everything to go way too far and ultimately harm those she wanted to help.
    Her flaw isn't toxic, but it is dangerous. It's hubris, insecurity, lack of awareness and being far too gullible.

  • @Taffee
    @Taffee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    True colours hit me right in the guts. At the time, I happened to be really upset and a bit angry that we moved half-way across the globe away from the friends I've known throughout my entire childhood. Marcy's reveal hit too close to home for me.

  • @toadlord8594
    @toadlord8594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Can’t wait to FINALLY get more intel on Sasha and Marcy’s home lives and Parents in 3B.
    Edit: End of The Christmas special, Sasha’s parents are divorced.

    • @johnhayward998
      @johnhayward998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There reaction of seeing there daughters well be like shock worriness, angr and happy
      But then seeing two walking talking Newts and a toad there going to freak out

    • @toadlord8594
      @toadlord8594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@johnhayward998 Yeah if one of their parents would faint o like Anne’s Dad I wonder.

    • @johnhayward998
      @johnhayward998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@toadlord8594
      They probably

    • @CharlesJThomas
      @CharlesJThomas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ikr I'm so curious lol. I think Marcy had it rough but maybe Sasha was very privileged and pampered hence her queen like attitude

    • @johnhayward998
      @johnhayward998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CharlesJThomas
      Well different Cercomstatis marcy probably wanted a real life experience of rpg
      And I suspected sasha is from a wealthy family

  • @QuincyAllain
    @QuincyAllain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love this! I love how you've catalogued all the little hints about Marcy-- I wish I could say I picked those up without help but the ending was already spoiled for me before I ever got to Marcy's introduction so it was kind of easy to see the direction they were taking her when I already knew the destination.
    Honestly this show is just so genius with subtlety like this.
    One of the best qualities of Amphibia is that literally nothing is a throwaway. Everything is deliberate and either placed for the future as a reference or directly relating to character growth or story.
    My best friend's husband started watching Amphibia recently, and seeing some episodes again, looking back, I was shocked by just how much came back for later episodes. Stuff that, during a first watch, you definitely think are throwaway details or lines-- especially if you don't binge the show in a couple of sittings to pick up the details in a later episode-- because if you're like me by then you've forgotten them.
    The show has serious rewatchability, and so much to talk about! My best friend and I have been really going into detail over character analysis and theories for a couple solid weeks while we're waiting for season 3!

  • @darkraiknight386
    @darkraiknight386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I must admit, Marcy soundly fooled me, and I'm the type of guy who can usually see ANY plot point coming.

  • @DarkPulsaterLiteGear
    @DarkPulsaterLiteGear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When she remodeled Wartwood I would say it was an adjacent yet independent issue or a combination of flaws at least. She has trouble making friends so she went overboard and acted on the advice of Mayor Toadstool and forgetting the ppossibl consequences such an endeavor could lead to.

  • @arendellecitizen208
    @arendellecitizen208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Every time Charles calls Marcy adorable - "I see what you did there. Won me over."

  • @smsrunner1862
    @smsrunner1862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Why can't you just let me go."
    I've always had trouble fully explaining that line. I knew she had a desire to prove herself but it felt weird that she would be upset about Anne trying to protect her. Until this video. It ties in so well with the fact she doesn't know how to think about how other people will feel about things and I didnt realize until watchin this video. They really did an amazing job with her.

  • @milorca4412
    @milorca4412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    sweet, an upload :D looking forward to watching this

  • @owenjolley351
    @owenjolley351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Some of you have clearly never heard of separation anxiety, it can make a person do some pretty crazy stuff.

  • @amitysluzara2022
    @amitysluzara2022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Marcys deception was so good

  • @threeguysandagirlinabeachhouse
    @threeguysandagirlinabeachhouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Marcy is my favorite character by far!

    • @CharlesJThomas
      @CharlesJThomas  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I find it hard to compare the characters lol but maybe same

  • @Clorgisclorg
    @Clorgisclorg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So I take it nobody else thought it was obvious that the person who hadn't seen the longest and had little to no information on besides second hand information was in fact the reason the two other characters that very clearly and earnestly had no idea how they got where they were got them where they were... Because I thought it was pretty obvious.

  • @sashawaybright9767
    @sashawaybright9767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *well, she sure had me fooled.*

  • @felixalexisortizlagos6904
    @felixalexisortizlagos6904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I suspect about marcy since the first flashback when Anne steals the misic box, those evil eyes...

  • @zer0w0lf94
    @zer0w0lf94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How fitting that you uploaded this as I was making my way through Season 2. I actually watched True Colors over the weekend.

  • @ElJorro
    @ElJorro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Marcy was such a good twist.

  • @starchildofthesun
    @starchildofthesun หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    one of the many things I like about Amphibia is that the filler episodes were necessary. I mean, just TRY to understand Anne's development from a reckless kid to a mature adult WITHOUT watching all the random reckless adventures that taught her being reckless had consequences. Or try to understand Sasha as anything more than a one dimensional bully by ignoring all the side quests she went on which showed she had more depth than that. Or- like this video points out- try getting close to Marcy as a person WITHOUT all the filler episodes that showed she was a kind and caring person who just wanted to be with her friends forever. Her betrayal in true colors would have defined her if not for the filler episodes that showed she wasn't a bad person.

  • @nataliapanfichi9933
    @nataliapanfichi9933 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do more Amphibia videos. Can't wait to see season 3 episodes. And yeah marcy doe get possed (becomes a villain)according to the trailer.

  • @tayloredwards4968
    @tayloredwards4968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really hope she gets a Redemption

    • @CharlesJThomas
      @CharlesJThomas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm positive she will!

    • @pookiemonster666
      @pookiemonster666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i dont think she needs a redemtion she isnt a bad person at all

  • @MalkoElzaroNoceda1526
    @MalkoElzaroNoceda1526 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree, learning a lot from this showing the side of flaws just to make a pacific person to grow and not to make a repeat that also reflects on how I can relate gives me more of a reason why I love Marcy the way she is

  • @esf34147
    @esf34147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Marcy is my favorite and i just want her to be happy

  • @WDB2005
    @WDB2005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Reminder guys Marcy’s last thoughts were Sasha and Anne resenting her for stranding them in Amphibia

  • @augustsockstrawberry
    @augustsockstrawberry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The outro music is making me cry

  • @KnightoSea
    @KnightoSea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fooled? SHE WAS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER I WASNT FOOLED I WAS BAMBOOZLED

  • @sup.
    @sup. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Cant wait for the next season its gonna be amazing

  • @Totally_Bonkers
    @Totally_Bonkers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm watching so much stuff like this yet I have barely watched the show.

  • @maddie4834
    @maddie4834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Potential backstabber” I believe the term is backstabee

  • @Anavid_reader19
    @Anavid_reader19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For a so called "betrayal" the reasons as to why she did it in the first place are pretty undertsnadable.

  • @morganatrindade3364
    @morganatrindade3364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just came to say Bill Cipher on the book Marcy is holding ( at 0:23 )

  • @mr.opinion2185
    @mr.opinion2185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just for the record, i never trusted Marcy or Andrias. That old lizard dude creeped me out from the beginning

  • @Teag_Brohman15
    @Teag_Brohman15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really want to say that Marcy didn't know any better

  • @incertnamehere
    @incertnamehere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Contraverial opinion!!!!!
    Betrayal is betrayal, even if she’s naive she had enough sense and clearly enough smarts to look at the bigger picture, even if there were unintended consequences.

  • @dandeelion8777
    @dandeelion8777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used to think Marcy was a Mary Sue until I watched your video

    • @dumdumbb
      @dumdumbb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not even close to it

  • @spaceagepenguin
    @spaceagepenguin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love Marcy so much I’m writing a two season, alternate universe, tv show that has some twists, turns, intellect and lots of heart!

  • @kajetankrakowski1368
    @kajetankrakowski1368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DON'T TALK ABOUT MY BABY LIKE THAT!
    u right tho

  • @acesinger6092
    @acesinger6092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so excited for season 3, it's so close. Also, do you think Marcy will get possessed by The Night? I think she will

  • @MrGabeanator
    @MrGabeanator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t consider what marcy did as a betrayal I mean you find out you’re moving on your best friends birthday what would you do

  • @ssjredbirdgrade5673
    @ssjredbirdgrade5673 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Learning this makes the show so much better

  • @louzo5175
    @louzo5175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SUCH A NICE PREVIEW AOAOAO

  • @socks456
    @socks456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video man!!

  • @happy-go-lucky9305
    @happy-go-lucky9305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not more bill Cypher. Oh the clues everywhere. Love both the shows

  • @NorthWestern1919
    @NorthWestern1919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So, I know this is unrelated (I'm aware many of my comments are), but today I turned on the TV in the hopes that The Amazing World of Gumball would be on Cartoon Network. What do I find instead? The Thomas reboot. Turns out, Cartoon Network is devoting a lot of its air time to baby shows now.
    It's like wherever I go, the accursed reboot follows.

    • @CharlesJThomas
      @CharlesJThomas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha, that's unfortunate! I heard about Cartoonito, guess it makes sense with most older demographics switching to cable. Tbh Cartoon Network doesn't have many good currently airing shows under its belt and I hope we get some soon

    • @NorthWestern1919
      @NorthWestern1919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CharlesJThomas Yep. Like I said, I only turned it on to watch TAWOG.
      As for Thomas, I hear his new cartoonish design is scaring the children and their parents, so the reviews have not been good.
      I miss the days when the only thing scary about Thomas was the fact that the "Other Railway" literally committed mass genocide of steam engines.

    • @BenHopkins1000
      @BenHopkins1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not all remakes are bad, unless Disney is involved…

    • @NorthWestern1919
      @NorthWestern1919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BenHopkins1000 I never said all remakes were bad, only this one. Back in the day, many of the characters and stories drew inspiration from real life, and now, the remake has absolutely no realism whatsoever. I get it's a show about talking trains, but that doesn't mean they have to bounce everywhere.

    • @mrpay4444AYypIgEDLbwfZm4kjaQk
      @mrpay4444AYypIgEDLbwfZm4kjaQk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NorthWestern1919 I you think thats bad look at the icarly reboot. The reboots must be a new end of product cycle thing.

  • @onlythebrave2813
    @onlythebrave2813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i havent watched amphibia yet BUT so true !

    • @cherryheartssz
      @cherryheartssz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damn you just spoiled it for yourself

    • @CharlesJThomas
      @CharlesJThomas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      SO TRUE BESTIE

    • @onlythebrave2813
      @onlythebrave2813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cherryheartssz i already knew ab it so it’s okay

    • @onlythebrave2813
      @onlythebrave2813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CharlesJThomas 🛐

  • @bristleflight303
    @bristleflight303 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marcy Is my favorite amphibia character

  • @axel665
    @axel665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Weren't people saying Marcy was gonna betray Anne early on

  • @MB-vt2fd
    @MB-vt2fd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Much like how Anne exhibits the same ferocity as her mom does in "Anne-terminator", why do I get the sense that Marcy's habit of neglecting to think about how her actions can affect others is also very much like her father? It was her father's decision to move after getting a new job. So there is possibility that he didn't really stop to think about how this change might affect Marcy, leading to her to manipulate Anne and Sasha to activating the box.

  • @MrRhode
    @MrRhode 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My only question is why hasn't the main character taken out the twigs and leaves in here hair

    • @xsweetiebloomx605
      @xsweetiebloomx605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Matt said that the leaves and twigs are magical and always come back

  • @pookiemonster666
    @pookiemonster666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love Marcy so much her action wasn't toxic or selfish. humility and selfishness are very similar but not the same. i mean sure she could have at least told Anne and Sasha. but she wasent toxic at all she litaerlly did it to stay with them.plus she was in distress when she did it so she didnt completely think it through.

  • @Sunny-uz8cw
    @Sunny-uz8cw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always find it funny that Sprig was right (in a sense). Also, I still want old Andreas back sadge.

  • @dreamnail
    @dreamnail 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope amphibia gets out of the hiatus soon.

  • @jamieaizawa8280
    @jamieaizawa8280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GUYS-
    DID YOU NOTICE BILL CIPHER IN THE BOOK MARCY WAS LOOKING THROUGH?!

    • @googamp32
      @googamp32 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      AND Goliath from Gargoyles.
      Yes, I AM old. Why do you ask?

  • @marcosaguilar7363
    @marcosaguilar7363 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I had a friend like Marcy I would guard them with my lit

  • @fellieme
    @fellieme 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would totally do what Marcy did. I remind myself of Marcy and that's why she's my favorite. But knowing my best friend, Kate, since he's watched Amphibia, he would love it.

  • @justjess5379
    @justjess5379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving Amphibia season three coming up to fill that owl house hiatus hole

  • @deshawnedwards6412
    @deshawnedwards6412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Any thoughts on doing a video around about the brand new Scooby Doo film were they crossover with Courage the Cowardly Dog?

    • @CharlesJThomas
      @CharlesJThomas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YES good chance I'll cover this

  • @9zxn
    @9zxn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    marcy didnt really "betray" anne and sasha
    think about it, the book never said she couldnt return and they would be seperated, she just thought they would all be together when they teleported and could go between amphibia and earth

  • @urphakeandgey6308
    @urphakeandgey6308 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even though what Marcy did was screwed, I can't help but sympathize. I moved A LOT growing up. About 4 times from K-12 and sometimes to different countries.
    Friendships being temporary was a fact of life, but I wished it wasn't that way before moving. Always. I would've done what Marcy did. No doubt about it.

  • @jjaa_joyjoyartist
    @jjaa_joyjoyartist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy sh*t I love this show even more now

  • @SL33PY_ZZZ
    @SL33PY_ZZZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Despite the whole thing with Marcy’s betrayal to me I think that it’s not a “betrayal” but I technically understand why she did this. I technically still have my own imaginations and always wanted To go to a fantasy world where I can get away from my problems but also maybe bring some one I know to help them be happy to also get away from there problems and yet that’s exactly what Marcy did (except not sure if relatable or makes sense or not) and let’s just think for moment you had lots of problems going on in your life that you wish you were in your fantasy world but reality still found you and and your worst fears and problems also still found you but the only way to fix all of these problems and be in reality again is if someone just might give you a hand. Overall I love Marcy and I would do anything for her if she was my close friend. It’s fine if you don’t understand or don’t like my comment but I know what I’m talking about and that’s fine by me.

  • @folmhaigh039
    @folmhaigh039 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I relate to her on a seveirly personal level, I would probably have done the exact same thing in her shoes, we are damn near identical in everything

  • @Renkencen
    @Renkencen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly I did "suspect" there was more to Marcy than meet the eyes to the point that "I think" she knew about Amphibia beforehand! Granted even then I didn't really believed that myself (I was going by the "smurg" she make at the flashback scene when Anne look at two at the window before stealing the box) despite making my claim due to lack of proper evidence before True Colour!

  • @voltage6338
    @voltage6338 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you realise all of this happened because someone’s dad has great work skill

  • @user-os1sv8nm6c
    @user-os1sv8nm6c 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    she has the best fanart

  • @Anonymous-bk9xy
    @Anonymous-bk9xy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Witch Princess

  • @liittlebluebells
    @liittlebluebells 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:47 gAoŒh

  • @thekiddencore9094
    @thekiddencore9094 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm in love with Marcy She is my girl

  • @jackrock3978
    @jackrock3978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay I know people don't want to pair Luz to Marcy come on you going to here in the backstory and her reasons to doing this that's all the thing Luz go through in life the difference is Marcy put his trust on the wrong person in a manipulating using her and go so far expose her to her friends Luz however didn't have that she ended up having a person she can lie on it's more than teacher student relationship it's more like a mother figure for her

  • @susie8799
    @susie8799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just finished the finale and what. What the fuck. Why why the child murder

  • @rayven8669
    @rayven8669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    She my fav idc

  • @kaki8466
    @kaki8466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This show has amazing writing. The attention to detail and foreshadowing is just crazy honestly

  • @willowmontross6412
    @willowmontross6412 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    way to, way to call me out like that

  • @Chupamuel
    @Chupamuel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like this Cartoon