I love this video so much! It’s so in-depth and the parts where you talk about each character (especially Hunter) were really well done :D. I relate to Hunter alot and especially to the fact that while he was under Belos’ thumb he only kinda had one purpose in life and without getting too into my mental stuff that’s a sentiment I can somewhat relate to and empathize with. Especially lines like “I miss knowing who I’m supposed to be” and “I’m not who I’m supposed to be right now but I like who I am right now” which exemplify his growth throughout the story. I also found the part where you said that that Hunter’s development throughout the story is about him discovering what he truly wants at the most hectic part of his life which is another thing that’s relatable for me. And also on the subject of Luz OH BOY WHERE DO I BEGIN?! First off I love the “Break the Cutie” Trope the Owl House pulls with her as she goes from a happy go lucky heroine to a more careful and slightly wiser heroine to a brooding and semi-cynical heroine in the span of three seasons. That aspect of Luz’s character is also kinda relatable for me :/. But I also like how in “For The Future” Luz begins to regain her spark and her joy comes back to her which I loved seeing back in January where I too was re-learning my joy. Also the Luz and Eda argument/fight was too painful to watch ;-;. And on the topic of TOH not “fitting the Disney Brand”, I agree that it didn’t make sense. It’s so annoying no actually not even annoying it’s downright infuriating to see such a good show with such a loving fanbase get cut down so early and it really hurt hearing about it in 2021 which was when I started to really get into the fandom. And the final message of the Owl House and your video as a whole that being not letting go of what brought you comfort is also something I can relate to and is a beautiful message. All things considered this is my favorite video of yours and I loved watching it, incredible work Sensei! EDIT: Sorry if this comment was really long and lacked structure, I’d rather just get all my thoughts out after watching a video like this than say “first!” or make a joke y’know?
But also, we shouldn't cross people for having traits that we find uncomfortable or inconvenient, people have weird quirks and they shouldn't be ostracized for not being ashamed of who they are. wish there was an animated show about oddballs and outsiders finding community, sounds like a really good theme.
Also, I don't think he's that annoying. I've seen worse sidekicks. Yeah some of his gags are kinda gross, or sometimes he's kinda pathetic, but that's like his thing. I don't love him but he's fine by me. He's saying it like it's as as Paimon or Happy from Fairy Tail. And happy is actually cute and all but after 100 episodes you just want to deck him in the face
It’s such a shame to this day that Nickelodeon never got a chance to nominate the owl house at the kids choice awards for favorite cartoon which is still disappointing 😞.
it would've lost to spongebob bc they're rigged anyways (spongebob's won every year except 2008 since the early 2000s, only lost in 2008 to the also-nick avatar), and the last time the kca's have had any older-skewing story driven shows was when gravity falls and steven universe were nominated in 2016. ever since then, it's just been the yellow sponge, loud house, toddler titans, that stupid alivn and the chipmunks cartoon, gumball until about 2021, and whatever the recent cartoon that has a big marketing push and then gets cancelled like a year later
@@PeridotFan64 exactly. I was so glad that avatar had won in 2008 cause I was one of the fans who voted for it to win instead of the sponge. But sense then it’s just been trash at the kca, However even if the owl house wouldn’t win due to it being rigged, it would still get the most votes like how that time in 2014 when Phineas and ferb had gotten the most votes than the sponge but still didn’t win anyway.
There rigged though no kid thinks SpongeBob is the entertainment of the century it’s lost once to the fantastic avatar the last Airbender and it didn’t even get read out it was just a pop up
@@abbynew4188 tell me about it is so rigged that in my korra fic nick got exterminus for heresy against the Avatar Korra- It is I that seek balance, and avatar protects
For all their talk about being inclusive, Disney was REALLY quick to axe the show with the bi main character. Also, I love Willow's slow transformation into a pro athlete who gets work done. She's so cool.
@@nick.100 A spiteful part of me thinks they're just covering their asses because I'm not the only one throwing around comments like that. Don't wanna be caught slipping, after all.
It wasn't because of the gay stuff. If anything it was the opposite. They likely canceled it because it wasn't overtly gay enough and didn't have nonstop political bs in it. Like how amphibia was canceled, it was too good and didn't bow to most of the bs Disney does these days. It was making the crap shows look bad and showed that there could be a good show with representation that wasn't just nonstop "I'm gay, oh did I tell you I'm gay" one dimensional narrative. It also didn't push the far left political bs they make literally every show have these days.
It's impossible to overstate just how hard this show stuck the landing. Watching and Dreaming might be the best 55 minutes of television that Disney Channel ever had the privilege of airing. Dana's team pulled a rabbit out of their hat on this one, I mean it's actually just a straight up miracle.
a cancelations like this would destroy any show's ending, even shows that aren't cancelled destroy themselves with the ending... i am impressed how Dana Terrace did what she did... she is talented beyond the talented
i can 100% confirm that enchanting grom fright is what really grew toh’s fandom, i was there since episode one and after grom fright premiered the fandom EXPLODED, so many people decided to pick up the show after that episode it was kinda crazy, i’d say another point the fandom shifted was around hunters introduction, after him there was a noticeable change in the fandom, and i feel bad cause it lead me to never really finishing the series 😭
Considering the fact they are neck-deep in financial hot water, Disney is in DESPERATE need of successes. Sadly, there's the fact that Florida's current government wants to dispose of ANYTHING LGBT related; which probably includes Owl House
@COY.OUR.BOY919Willow's pan, Amity is a lesbian, Masha's also nonbinary, and even setting aside the LGBTQ+ rep.. It's the story of a girl who feels lost, and discovers being-understood.
I kinda owe my chosen name to TOH, it impacted me so much in a period when i was just full of doubt and questions about myself, and thanks to Luz and the gang now we have Lucía (me), this show is really special to me and will always have a place in my heart
Three months ago I decided to watch The Owl House. At first I wasn't sure about it, but it was a good decision. many things here simply touched my heart: the plot, characters, world and music. For me, these aspects made The Owl House series enjoyable and interesting to watch. Not everything was perfect but I'm still happy that I discovered this cartoon. I entered this fandom, which in my opinion is one of the friendliest fandoms I have ever met, not all people in The Owl House fan community were good people but I really liked this community. I won't forget this series for a long time. I blinked my eyes and my comment became long, I had already written a lot and I just wanted to say that I liked the series. I could talk more about the various aspects that come to mind, but I don't see the point in writing so many of my own thoughts under a review that presents the entire series well. in your material you talk great about her, both about the advantages and disadvantages, I can really agree with many things. I'm glad I could watch such well-researched material. Good job ! I apologize in advance for my not very good English.
Yo same thing here I finally decided to give it a watch to see what the hype was about and I was wow this show is amazing I also have to give a shout out to amphibia to for getting me back into story driven cartoons witch made me interested for the owl house I love both of these shows
The irony that disney back in 2005 wanted to have a IP that was there own Harry Potter to fight against WB. That's why they temporarily acquired rights for Narnia. But they failed to tell the story in movies, cut down on things from the books including religious things. although I am not religious myself. Now they have had the chance to own a series of rich fantasy that is not only original, diverse, LGBTQ stuff and lovely. But instead they throw it out the window. This could be the Harry Potter series they wanted. I can't stand them.
They're making a Percy Jackson tv show, and the book series (also known as the Riordanverse) is really diverse in its representation. Percy is a neurodivergent boy struggling in an abusive household. He is very bi-coded, and so is his girlfriend Annabeth. Many of the characters are queer, like Nico di Angelo. They even had a bisexual main character named Lester. Annabeth's cousin who stars in Magnus Chase is pansexual. He has a boy/girlfriend named Alex Fierro who is genderfluid (sometimes he/him but mostly she/her). They also have a spin-off called Kane Chronicles where both main characters are mixed siblings and one faces systematic racism. Sadie Kane, who is the main character is polyamorous. It's not that similar to the owl house, but you should give it a try if you want a diverse story.
I think that in some ways, The Owl House is purposefuly calling back to Harry Potter - and managing the story a lot better (and I'm saying that as Harry Potter fan).
The part I don't understand is the financial and reputational fumble. Disney has been taking L after L for years now, and people are losing interest. Say what you will about the anti-queer backlash - the Owl House fandom would start a fucking war if it meant keeping the show alive. That kind of feverishly dedicated consumer base could have kept them afloat for years! Why not milk it for all it's worth?
On your nitpick on the season 1 finale. How Luz can use magic without glyphs? Owlbert. That little bird is a boss. Just like how Hunter can use magic while wielding Flapjack, another birdboss.
At the very least it is believed that Disney realized they fucked up treating TOH they way they did, effectively leaving money on the table by cutting it short. I don't want a revival, as I am afraid it could cause further damage but I do hope Disney will be more patient with promising serialized shows in the future.
hooty's got that charm hes annoying but in a funny way and alex purposely made hooty's voice be the way it is, he said once at a con that hooty's voice sounds like mickey mouse thats been thrown in a washing machine and spun around 100 times
I remember the day I saw the trailer for this show. I also remember watching the pilot in the car the DAY it dropped and instantly feeling charmed by what it had to offer. Three years later and I don’t regret what this show did for me and everyone else. I cried at the finale… even when it had been cut horrendously short. They still have us a wonderful finale. ❤ thank you Owl House… thank you
It's pretty safe to say that Bob Iger (new Disney CEO) cancelled TOH, because of his well known hate of LGBT representation. He also cut advertisement for Strange World for the same reason. It was already in development when he took over, so he couldn't cancel it outright. He also acted very shady during the passing of Florida's don't say gay law. Etc. Also, TOH was cancelled right after the Grom episode. Season 2 was already greenlit. And they barely got the specials to wrap up. The colector was added to the plot later because the intended story didn't have time to wrap up. A lot of rewriteing happened. That's why some plot points were kinda dropped, like what is the owl beast.
@@FreeHandleForGuest Thanks for the correction. My understanding was that he was involved somehow, but I can't remember where I heard that now. I should be better at fact checking claims before repeating them. Thank you.
It wasn't because of the gay stuff. If anything it was the opposite. They likely canceled it because it wasn't overtly gay enough and didn't have nonstop political bs in it. Like how amphibia was canceled, it was too good and didn't bow to most of the bs Disney does these days. It was making the crap shows look bad and showed that there could be a good show with representation that wasn't just nonstop "I'm gay, oh did I tell you I'm gay" one dimensional narrative. It also didn't push the far left political bs they make literally every show have these days.
@@oblitusunum6979 Oh you poor persecuted straight. It must be so hard for you to see diversity in media these days. The left is really demanding too much equally these days. Visual representation of an oppressed minority; the nerve. Please, have a rest on your fainting couch, and try not to get too flustered by the terrible woke mob that are silencing you.
why season 1 was at the pace it was is because it was created BEFORE the cancellation by Disney, it was at the pace that Dana wanted it to be. how the show was gonna function, it was at a pace for the original series length. remember that the show was gonna have 5 seasons, each being the length of season 1 & 2. "season" 3 was supposed to fill in those gaps in a short amount of time so Disney could get it over and done with while also finishing the show off. (im assuming to get less backlash.) Dana can't even continue the show in book/comic form if she wanted to as Disney has the rights to the show. Dana left Disney when she had finished working on the show. I hope that we can eventually get a full length version of the series or a spinoff to help explain things better. i'd like to say that this is an amazing video :) one more thing, be gay do witchcraft /ref :p
Wait, did you say that it was originally going to have 5 seasons? Didn't Ms. Terrace say that the original plan was that the show was going to be 3 seasons? If I'm wrong at that, you can correct it.
i absolutely adore how relatable luz is in terms of the shows target audience. the target audience is people who dont fit the status quo- who would be absolutely enamored with a terrifying nightmare world, immediately become dazzled by the new characters, and overall just love the change. luz latches onto the chance to escape reality, and holy shit thats what everyone who adores this show would do
I like to think of the second special as wrapping up leftover ideas and tying up loose ends, the first special was more about getting back and the third was the final fight, we can't really blame the second special for not being as good.
fun fact King Dad the Titans look is supposed to make him an Owl House fan boy. the movement where he brings Luse back to life is the fans supporting the show and getting the spaciels made.
This is totally one my favourite Disney shows ever made! It has been a whole year since i started watching it on Disney+. And i really got hooked into it, thabks to it's sense of representations! (as someone being autistic myself) IT'S SO UNFAIR that Disney just cut a gem like this short! But either way i am eternally grateful that it exists! Not to mention that in spite of time constraint it managed to pull of such a perfect ending!
I don't even remember how I found this show. All I know is, I jumped into it expecting whatever, and ended up being one of many fans who grew incredibly *worried* when season two had that one menacing hiatus. There's so many things about this show that speak to me in a personal level. The very first chapter revolves around the fact that Luz Noceda is probably the weirdest kid at that school. That hit me in the feels straight away dude. Being weird and getting overwhelmed when trying to be "normal" was half of my childhood. And then Luz meets Eda and King and yeah, I thought for a few episodes I was watching some equivalent of Adventure Time (specially taking into acount its humor; chaotic and usually quick-witted), but each episode took me by surprise. Amity had a far deeper personality than it seemed at the beginning, Gus and Willow went from discrete background characters to protagonists, Eda had the dynamic with her curse, King started revealing an interesting past... Everything and everyone had at least one episode to demostrate they were a real deal, and not a cassual one-off joke. ALSO, there's a romantic story arch which goes somewhere! Luz and Amity get together and REMAIN together! And they talk about their struggles and face each challenge together instead of drifting apart to create the obligatory apology and get-back-together episode! And then, it got cancelled. Because of course it had to. Anyway, the end of The Owl House made me unsubscribe from Disney+. I'm not giving the mouse a single cent until they start supporting and founding creative people again, instead of creating generic shows and remakes Edit: Unrelated, but I just realized Luz's name means "Light" in Spanish, and the first bit of magic she learns is a light glyph. I'm from Spain why have I taken this long
First glyph she used, also happens to be the one to bring eda back from her curse temporarily, also happens to be the one that walks people up from the collector's nightmares. Might I add that when things die in the BI they basically turn into the little lights from the glyphs. This show could keep me ranging for hours I'll stop here
@@randallbesch2424 You're right, it isn't. I was just really bitter about the cancellation. I love this show and it deserved so much more. And when you learn that it was cancelled only because of its serialised storytelling and its young adult target demographic...it kind of hits hard when one is of that age and it kind of feels personal. Like many people I grew up with Disney stories and I like many of them. But recent decisions have filled me with disappointment and frustration: Star Wars, Marvel and now its animated series have become unoriginal and cheap cash grabs that focus on visuals, action and cheap humour. Originals have become a rarity and aren't as promoted as they once were. So now I have moved and hope that this show will have a future under a new leadership.
@@randallbesch2424 It was cancelled halfway during season 2 and then, after half a year of negotiations, it was allowed to end its story two seasons before it was originally planned. So "canceled" for short
I want this show back 😭 I absolutely enjoyed the finale, but the corporate reasons it ended are extremely frustrating. Their future designs are adorable so I could see a future series like Steven universe. I definitely hope so. Also immaculate taste in music. There’s always that one video that makes you subscribe to a channel and this was that video, well done.
Disney doesn't deserve owning The Owl House for how they ended up treating it, i really hope they learn from said mistake. I'm glad they got to finish it but they definitely wanted to cover more chapters. Thankfully despite Disney's stupid mistake, the end result doesn't feel rushed, at least to me. Still wish we could have seen what those hinted at adventures were though. Love The Owl House and if i ever see a DVD box set for it, definitely will buy to support it.
The main thing that bothered me about the final episode was the fact that the Collector went off on his own. Their whole character was built around the idea that they were this poor (uber powerful) kid who got tricked and was alone for a very long time. I would have been much more satisfied with an ending that included the Collector in the main group, finally happy and accepted the way the rest of them were. Instead he ends up roaming the stars alone to "grow up"? It made no sense to me.
The reason this show was never going to fly on mainstream cable, was because it pointed out EXPLICITLY the problems with America, and therefore was going to ruffle some feathers. It would've probably been better off as an indie show
I think you're reading into it too much. Maybe I'm just dense but I never saw much social commentary in this show. It's mostly character driven and focuses and so the primary commentary of the show is mostly focus on just telling kids to be genuine to who they are and grow into they want to be rather than who they are told to be.
I only found the show around fall last year but it’s one of my favorite shows ever. It just so beautiful. It always helped me find something out about myself, that being me being asexual and to be proud about it.
It had been a while since I watched a cartoon that I felt as personally connected to as I did with Adventure Time and Avatar. The Owl House filled the hole that those two shows left beautifully. Such a wonderful series filled with lovable dynamic characters, a fantastic setting, great and interesting lore, and an epic and amazing story. I’m so grateful for everyone who had a part in making this show what it was.
It was downright criminal what Disney did to this cartoon, from entire episode being leaked more than once to simply giving them 2 episodes to finish a whole story. The team did a miracle job in closing as much plot as they could, but on lives the creator said a LOT they had plan had been cut. And then Primos came out not long before the finale of TOH and was a disaster, Disney really has favorites and put on an axe too fast on a cartoon who's special episodes got million of views in less than 3 hours. And the sad thing is, a season renewed will not fix this, because the whole story was finished in the finale. To me it is best than not having an ending at all, but we'll never get close deleted episodes back. There had been rumours a spin off series of Eda as a teenager may happen, but to me is just Disney trying to save face. Because it realized they killed a massive show, mostly because 2 girls kissed
There are currently no plans to do anything with this show. If it hadn't had as many viewers on TH-cam as it did they probably would've just thrown the rights for the Owl House in Dana's face! Now that all of their projects are underperforming they might change their minds one day but until then I think it's best if we just turn our backs on this studio.
I remember first watching this show at first it sorta gave me like a Harry Potter aspect. I even seen other fan art of what would happen if owl house crossover with Danny Phantom, which I know would be truly amazing✨👻.
@@eow4317 I like that in a way, Luz isn't pushed as "the savior of The Isles". They all rebuilt together, as a society, a family, a friendship, a love. The show loved breaking the status quos since either Luz's entire "I choose to stay" or Willow's change in track. A show that questions the Status Quo and explores deeper to see w h y the "Status Quo is God" trope isn't always a good way out. I think why I'm enjoying Lower Decks is because it also embraces the "Status Quo isn't an end-all". Establish your Status Quo, and see why it's needed to change.
Yeah during season 1 i thought that hooty might crack under all the hate he is getting by the characters and go feral or something, I wasn’t really expecting him to become a valued member of the team
I was surprised when I cried during the ending of the show. I love it so much for what it represents and what I was going through in my own life while I was watching the show. It will ALWAYS hold a place in my heart for one of my favorite shows in recent times for that. The finally was a bitter sweet end to the rollercoaster that this show had been through.
Always remember that while being different means being weird, weird is never a bad thing. When you feel like everything seems to fit together but you, stay that way. Stay weird. Because there is no way that you can keep the weirdos from sticking together. Have a good day.
I just binged it over a two day period for the first time and I hate that it got cancelled. Its one of the cutest shows, while having deep themes and dark imagery. Belos is terrifying and the fact he still considered himself human was disgusting. Luminty was something I didn't see at first but definitely enjoyed and always went, "They are soooo gay," in my head before they were together. Vee's human design was adorable. I wish this wasn't cancelled.
I remember seeing a brand new show on Disney (TOH) and I fell in love with it instantly. Yes Disney sure did screw it up but it was still amazing how they could end it. I will never get tired of this show and I am glad the last episodes Dana did a F U Disney. All I am trying to say is thank you for this amazing show
I like hooty because he’s barely there. Too much of him would be too but he’s justtttt the right amount. Plus everyone else thinks he’s annoying. I get why you don’t like him though he’s definitely not my favorite 😅 KKKOHD is top episodes for me because i am one of the fans lumity has a chokehold on, plus harpy eda + king powers + ratio… i can handle some high pitches hooty for that! Btw great video! Love the editing style and commentary on one of my favorite shows ever (and got me super interested into animation!!)
Always remember that while being different means being weird, weird is never a bad thing. When you feel like everything seems to fit together but you, stay that way. Stay weird. Because there is no way that you can keep the weirdos from sticking together. Stay weird. Stick together. Never forget who you are.
Video was great and I agreed with almost all of your points (aside from hooty!). One thing that kind of annoyed my was how at seemingly random points there would be a random montage to introduce the next song, that kind of just felt unnatural. Keep making videos its great!
2:20 I *immediately* recognised that song, I absolutely love the owl house and good kid, and if anyone was wondering the name is Mimi's delivery service😁
Hm, fair and valid points and opinions, this was a very well done Video, I could fully see where you were coming and could agree in some areas, while I am still curious and would’ve liked to see where things could’ve gone if the Great Cut didn’t happen, I do appreciate what we got and what it inspired. By the way, about Hooty, I don’t really think his Voice is that bad, I have actually heard worse, besides I was under the impression that Hooty was a Fan-Favorite or something. Anyway, I have three Questions for you: Do you know of MoringMark? Have you done a Video about Amphibia already? If so, then how about doing a Video about Pibby?
Like you, I feel this is probably the best animated series ever done. I do also dislike that Disney cancelled it because it didn't fit their brand. You've hit on so much in this video and yet you've only scratched the surface. Animation, drama, emotions, etc. It hits on so many points. One moment you feel happy, then you feel sad, then you feel happy again or anxious or so many other emotions. I can't think of another cartoon out there that took me from episode 1 to the end and kept me wanting more. I've watched more videos of this series than any other out there. I keep looking for new content and I follow any notices on the show that I can find. Which is weird for me because I don't do social media. My hope is that one day Dana Terrace will take the Owl House and create a new series which will take us into the next Generation. MorningMark has written several terrific Owl House Comics here on TH-cam which are both funny and enjoyable. It would be nice to see them team up and work out a 2nd generation. Also, she should write an Azure Series. I'd love to see Azure face Hecate at the bog of immediate regret.
You know I always wondered what the original story would've been. Since Disney had cancelled the show during season 1 and only agreed to 3 episodes for season three... Some things had to be changed The collector originally wasnt going to exist but was added in in order to movd the plot forward
A show i'd really love you to check out is Camp Camp! it's a lot better and more mature than other adult cartoons. It isn't afraid to be crass or out there but there's a certain amount of restraint they have. It never goes too far. That, and it makes time to actually have some genuine heart. Season 1 is like season 1 of The Owl House in a sense that theirs bits of story that becomes more and more apparent as the series progresses, its story, characters and hidden lore so so interesting and it’s filled with mystery, epic story arks and emotional moments that I’d seriously call it one of the best animated shows ever made, too bad it’s criminally underrated, not many people are all that aware of it, despite is having a fandom that adores it.
Great thing, the reason Luz can use magic in the season 1 finale is because she has the staff, similar to how she performs a spell earlier in the season with Amity's wand.
There's some hot takes, but this is a great video overall. The music fits so well, montages are great, and it's a great documentary if you didn't year me the first time.
I didn't watch the Owl House when it first came out, but i ironically watched the season 3 when it first came out, i thought the collector was a version of luz because my sister told me there was a character like that in the show 💀... i truly love the show because i finally watched it on my own, without any outside opinions, luz being this fun character is why i fell in love, but lumity is why i continue to love it, also the story line was so intresting to follow, especially as a teenager, because we never saw that in the shows we were raised on (cursed barney for me) its a truly amazing show and i hope that it gets renewed, because screw disney for cancelling it.
As a Amphibia fan, i was suprised that Owl house got only 3 episodes for the last season. Owl house is much more popular (not better) but of course Disney gets mad when two mfs kiss
It wasn't because of the gay stuff. If anything it was the opposite. They likely canceled it because it wasn't overtly gay enough and didn't have nonstop political bs in it. Like how amphibia was canceled, it was too good and didn't bow to most of the bs Disney does these days. It was making the crap shows look bad and showed that there could be a good show with representation that wasn't just nonstop "I'm gay, oh did I tell you I'm gay" one dimensional narrative. It also didn't push the far left political bs they make literally every show have these days.
It's funny you mention Hooty being insufferable, because I usually hate that kind of comic relief characters. And I can definitely relate with "how can I be the only one hating me" after discovering I am apparently the only one thinking that The Legend of Korra would be a million times better without Bolin. But Hooty isn't *just* insufferable: he's insufferable *and everybody agrees he is*. The show isn't trying to hide that he's thick as a brick, or trying to make him look better, they just show that he truly cares for the protagonists, and really enjoys being included, and he does really help Lilith when she's at her worst. They show you can count on him to be there. It is still truly weird they chose to make the True Lumity Episode revolve around HIM, that's right. But I think somehow he works as a character even with *that* voice. Also that *was* junk mail, in the end #spoilers
8 minutes into this vid and I’m already liked and subscribed. Love the vibe here, especially the little intros to all of the characters. Excited to dig into your other videos!
15:01, I think Luz can do magic because of Owlbert, we've seen her do magic via Stringbean in S3 and Hunter turn from magicless to being able to do his speed magic thing when he absorbed flapjack, so I think it's cuz she's holding onto owlbert she can use magic. The reason I believe Eda can't use magic in S2 even with Owlbert is cuz she can't directly use it with the owl curse thing just a personal headcanon based on my observations
I don’t want a 4th season to unravel the perfectly tied bow we got, I wish we had a full season 3, I wouldn’t mind a books tho, maybe belos’s diary or the good witch azura book
Agreed Yes, more episodes would’ve been nice but the ending was still satisfying and I’m glad it was even able to get that. As well as the amazing epilogue . A comic, as you said probably wouldn’t hurt though .
at 15:03 when he says in this ep she can use magic with out the glyphs is wrong because in cannon humans can use magic with out glyphs is because humans can use the palismans magic so Luz used Owlbert to activated the glyphs
At least the crew knew about the cancellation around halfway through the the production of season 2 so they could rework a lot to fit the reduced runtime. Still sucks but it's a silver lining.
People tend to forget they got canceled before writing/making Season 2b onwards, not that they were canceled after season 2 so they only had the 3 episodes to make up.
Hunter is a really good character he is really well written but poor Flapjack ( my favorite character is Luz tho) also Luz went through a lot in the last 72 hours of the show ( season 3) starting at halloween she went through flapjack’s death and hunter getting possessed to her coming back to the isles to discovering that the collector was ruining the isles and playing a game using her life on the boiling isles and Luz finally got to meet her palisman to a few minutes later waking up to a nightmare but with the help of amity, hunter, willow and gus escaping out of it to finally seeing eda and king again ( since king’s tide for seeing luz and since clouds on the horizon at the very beginning for eda) but then playing games with the collector and having a chat with the collector to maybe change his point of view of everything to luz dying to save the collector but coming back thanks to king’s dad and defeating belos once and for all
Nobody in the history of ever: Luz: Watched eda almost get petrified Discovered someone was pretending to be her, living in herplace with her mom Watched the collector defeat belos by tapping his forehead Watched the collector tear apart the room Forced to return home after trying to save everyone Promised her mom to leave the one place that let's her be herself Watched a friend get possessed Watched a friend die The friend that died was killed by the possessed friend The possessor was the overlord murderer they're fighting and was thought to be dead Returns to find home sparkly ✨️ Literally lives in a nightmare for a sec Meets collector Talks to collector Teams up with collector Dies? Comes back?? Is fluffy??? HAS MAGIC IMBUED INTO HER BODY THROUGH MEETING THE TITAN HIMSELF??!?
How did Dana Terrace saw the series ending? You said the finale we got was way different from what Dana wanted, but I was unable to find anything online. Just curious about how it could have ended Ps: nice essay :D
A lot of things wouldve been different. For example, the collector was only added because of the show getting cut short. Instead we wouldve got the archivists. Plus a lot of plot points (especially ones in s3) wouldve had more time to simmer and build up. Its important to note that s2 A of TOH was written BEFORE the show was decided to be cut short; everything in s2 beyond that wouldve had to be rushed more because of that, such as Belos’ reveal in s2 ep12, everything about the titan trappers and kings reveal, and more Also, its confirmed that we wouldve got an ep diving deep into Hootys backstory, got explanations of Evelyns past & link to Eda (perhaps in a flashback ep with young Belos in it), a better explanation about the titan (like in the scene where Luz meets him in s3 but more in depth), got to meet more of the coven heads, more time for amitys plot with her dad and rebellion, stuff about Steve ✨ and most importantly a final confrontation with Hunter and Belos (I hoped atleast)
@@chumley04 Half of the things you said was just made up there's no source that we would have got the archivists there's no titan trappers promis and every picture in hollow mind was probably going to be animated if you were so sure you can give me sources you should at least get contact with the subreddit every thing you said is just fans wishlists there is no way we would've got more in depth season 3 when everything in season 3 wasn't going to happen. Dana said she got more creative with season 3 than she was planed everyone mourning about season 3 and they would have had a perfect show but looking back to the owl house season 1 and amphibia season 3 I'm not sure if we going to get something better than we got. And the rushed accusation is weird where the season 3 pacing is amazing and better than season 1 where they "exactly aligned with their plan" Stop living by hypothesis we might get something better but we might also get something worse or just as good we might never know.
@@thefirstone4864 Busy rn but ill respond anyway. The archivists, ep about Hootys backstory, stuff abt Steve, screentime for other coven heads and more info about Evelyn, Belos and Eda as a kid have all been confirmed over time, especially in the post Owl House stream Dana and crew did a while back. Sure the other things were events that probably wouldve happened but yea *not confirmed* (prob shouldntve written it out like that).
OBJECTION! You say that Disney would d have been the best place for it, as others would shut it down faster, but I propose: Indie animation. No 'style' it has to fit, no regulations that have to be worked around. Wonder how different it would be that way.
4 days ago, it was my aniversary for watching the owl house didn t know how or when but I thought lumity was cute, I watched blindly the grom fight but then I wanted to see the show myself. this show realy helped me with my mental. last year my friends didn t wana hang out with anymore, I lost my dog and I was fighting my epilespy, but then this arived. I related to Luz so much. it even motived me to watch Amphibia. Now I am doing alot better, somehow I have my friends back, I have a new dog and I think about the owl house Every day. As I said, 4 days ago it was aniversary, so I watched Nostaligia videos about TOH, that day I cryed myself to sleep. Thank you TOH
I was expecting a well researched journey into why Disney dropped the show, the impact it's had on company and community, and just how much potential Disney lost. Maybe even a comparison between tOH and some other titles that Disney kept in the past.
15:09 I kind of just assumed that the staff activated the glyphs on the door because they were glyphs on the door so it makes sense it’s the staff that actually has the magic
I believe Disney canceled it because it didn't follow the book and that the main character luz go through so much physically and mentally that we can relate to her because it's something that we are going through today like in part of the video you said that she chose to stay and arrive at her destination but now we can see as a audience that the director wanted luz to go through something more deep than any other Disney movie and show the journey to be a hero not the destination and to have this character learn what means that its not the destination it is the journey that you go on that learn a lot from even though the journey will be difficult physically but most importantly mentally and that is why i understand why the series was cancelled early but we both know that this series and luz is not over actually let me rephrase that we both know that the journey of the series and the journey of the protagonist luz is not over and the journey of this series and the characters is only the beginning
This show was amazing it kind of sucks that it was cut short but apparently still hope they will come back maybe as a spinoff or a nurse season book series there’s still hope if you keep screaming and if Phineas and Ferb and feta and adventure time could come back I believe that this show would that is my hope but for now the show was awesome 😊😔🥹😎🙏🦉💙💙💙
I am so glad TOH is getting appreciated I have been watching since it started and it is my favorite series of all time I really noticed people started liking it when it got popular wich always make me have mixed feelings but I was glad it grew a larger community,this plot is amazing but one tiny little thing I would change is the seriousness of belos’s actions I mean he killed his brother then brought him back and killed him thousands of times,Im still pretty young so TOH will definetly have a special place in my heart as I grow up
I love this video so much! It’s so in-depth and the parts where you talk about each character (especially Hunter) were really well done :D. I relate to Hunter alot and especially to the fact that while he was under Belos’ thumb he only kinda had one purpose in life and without getting too into my mental stuff that’s a sentiment I can somewhat relate to and empathize with. Especially lines like “I miss knowing who I’m supposed to be” and “I’m not who I’m supposed to be right now but I like who I am right now” which exemplify his growth throughout the story. I also found the part where you said that that Hunter’s development throughout the story is about him discovering what he truly wants at the most hectic part of his life which is another thing that’s relatable for me. And also on the subject of Luz OH BOY WHERE DO I BEGIN?! First off I love the “Break the Cutie” Trope the Owl House pulls with her as she goes from a happy go lucky heroine to a more careful and slightly wiser heroine to a brooding and semi-cynical heroine in the span of three seasons. That aspect of Luz’s character is also kinda relatable for me :/. But I also like how in “For The Future” Luz begins to regain her spark and her joy comes back to her which I loved seeing back in January where I too was re-learning my joy. Also the Luz and Eda argument/fight was too painful to watch ;-;. And on the topic of TOH not “fitting the Disney Brand”, I agree that it didn’t make sense. It’s so annoying no actually not even annoying it’s downright infuriating to see such a good show with such a loving fanbase get cut down so early and it really hurt hearing about it in 2021 which was when I started to really get into the fandom. And the final message of the Owl House and your video as a whole that being not letting go of what brought you comfort is also something I can relate to and is a beautiful message. All things considered this is my favorite video of yours and I loved watching it, incredible work Sensei!
EDIT: Sorry if this comment was really long and lacked structure, I’d rather just get all my thoughts out after watching a video like this than say “first!” or make a joke y’know?
You were right about long…. I definitely do love Hunter though
@@sara_callie_besties2013 Yeah sorry about that lol, I tend to yap alot. I like Hunter too, he’s quite the relatable n’ silly fella
Yeah hunter and luz are such good characters. Hunter is my second fav and Luz is third.
It doesn’t match the Disney brand
The Owl House knows how to make an actually good show(or probably movie tbh)
That's alot of words
the reason hooty sounds like mickey mouse is because dana asked alex to do a stupid mickey impression, and she loved it so much she kept it lol.
My first word was hoot. My second word was HOOT-hoot!
my third word was- HOOTY! you gotta stay on track here
But also, we shouldn't cross people for having traits that we find uncomfortable or inconvenient, people have weird quirks and they shouldn't be ostracized for not being ashamed of who they are. wish there was an animated show about oddballs and outsiders finding community, sounds like a really good theme.
I think we like hooty because he is annoyingly adorable. The type of character that you either love or hate no in between.
Also, I don't think he's that annoying. I've seen worse sidekicks. Yeah some of his gags are kinda gross, or sometimes he's kinda pathetic, but that's like his thing. I don't love him but he's fine by me. He's saying it like it's as as Paimon or Happy from Fairy Tail. And happy is actually cute and all but after 100 episodes you just want to deck him in the face
It’s such a shame to this day that Nickelodeon never got a chance to nominate the owl house at the kids choice awards for favorite cartoon which is still disappointing 😞.
it would've lost to spongebob bc they're rigged anyways (spongebob's won every year except 2008 since the early 2000s, only lost in 2008 to the also-nick avatar), and the last time the kca's have had any older-skewing story driven shows was when gravity falls and steven universe were nominated in 2016. ever since then, it's just been the yellow sponge, loud house, toddler titans, that stupid alivn and the chipmunks cartoon, gumball until about 2021, and whatever the recent cartoon that has a big marketing push and then gets cancelled like a year later
@@PeridotFan64 exactly. I was so glad that avatar had won in 2008 cause I was one of the fans who voted for it to win instead of the sponge. But sense then it’s just been trash at the kca, However even if the owl house wouldn’t win due to it being rigged, it would still get the most votes like how that time in 2014 when Phineas and ferb had gotten the most votes than the sponge but still didn’t win anyway.
is riged that Nick assume kids are sponge zombies with no freewill nor development to adulthood
There rigged though no kid thinks SpongeBob is the entertainment of the century it’s lost once to the fantastic avatar the last Airbender and it didn’t even get read out it was just a pop up
@@abbynew4188 tell me about it is so rigged that in my korra fic nick got exterminus for heresy against the Avatar
Korra- It is I that seek balance, and avatar protects
For all their talk about being inclusive, Disney was REALLY quick to axe the show with the bi main character.
Also, I love Willow's slow transformation into a pro athlete who gets work done. She's so cool.
Yeah weirdest part Disneys TH-cam channel has a compilation of their entire love story
@@nick.100 A spiteful part of me thinks they're just covering their asses because I'm not the only one throwing around comments like that. Don't wanna be caught slipping, after all.
Just like any other company, Disney is only inclusive when it makes profit.
@@kira-dk2mx ohh definitely
It wasn't because of the gay stuff. If anything it was the opposite. They likely canceled it because it wasn't overtly gay enough and didn't have nonstop political bs in it. Like how amphibia was canceled, it was too good and didn't bow to most of the bs Disney does these days. It was making the crap shows look bad and showed that there could be a good show with representation that wasn't just nonstop "I'm gay, oh did I tell you I'm gay" one dimensional narrative. It also didn't push the far left political bs they make literally every show have these days.
It's impossible to overstate just how hard this show stuck the landing. Watching and Dreaming might be the best 55 minutes of television that Disney Channel ever had the privilege of airing. Dana's team pulled a rabbit out of their hat on this one, I mean it's actually just a straight up miracle.
a cancelations like this would destroy any show's ending, even shows that aren't cancelled destroy themselves with the ending... i am impressed how Dana Terrace did what she did... she is talented beyond the talented
i can 100% confirm that enchanting grom fright is what really grew toh’s fandom, i was there since episode one and after grom fright premiered the fandom EXPLODED, so many people decided to pick up the show after that episode it was kinda crazy, i’d say another point the fandom shifted was around hunters introduction, after him there was a noticeable change in the fandom, and i feel bad cause it lead me to never really finishing the series 😭
wtf dude???who gives a fuck about the fandom!you cant let a stupid thing ike that stop you from finishing the show!come on lets be real please
I love The Owl House. Disney, please revive this show for another seasons
Same here!
Considering the fact they are neck-deep in financial hot water, Disney is in DESPERATE need of successes.
Sadly, there's the fact that Florida's current government wants to dispose of ANYTHING LGBT related; which probably includes Owl House
@COY.OUR.BOY919Willow's pan, Amity is a lesbian, Masha's also nonbinary, and even setting aside the LGBTQ+ rep..
It's the story of a girl who feels lost, and discovers being-understood.
Help i kept reading reasons instead of seasons 💀💀
Brother it's not coming back 😬😬💀💀
I kinda owe my chosen name to TOH, it impacted me so much in a period when i was just full of doubt and questions about myself, and thanks to Luz and the gang now we have Lucía (me), this show is really special to me and will always have a place in my heart
What a beautiful story, so happy for you ❤️
I sit over here with my name being Lucia and my friends gave me the nickname “Luz” after we all saw TOH because they say i act so much like her
@@lucat9981 aw that's sweet, no one i know has watched the show nor knows my story so there's that.
Lucía/Lucy/Luz gang represent!!
Not sure if you know this, but “Lucia” is actually the name the fandom has given to the beta design of Luz
@@heroofwild2853 that's cool, i love her old design too
Three months ago I decided to watch The Owl House. At first I wasn't sure about it, but it was a good decision. many things here simply touched my heart: the plot, characters, world and music. For me, these aspects made The Owl House series enjoyable and interesting to watch. Not everything was perfect but I'm still happy that I discovered this cartoon. I entered this fandom, which in my opinion is one of the friendliest fandoms I have ever met, not all people in The Owl House fan community were good people but I really liked this community. I won't forget this series for a long time. I blinked my eyes and my comment became long, I had already written a lot and I just wanted to say that I liked the series. I could talk more about the various aspects that come to mind, but I don't see the point in writing so many of my own thoughts under a review that presents the entire series well. in your material you talk great about her, both about the advantages and disadvantages, I can really agree with many things. I'm glad I could watch such well-researched material. Good job !
I apologize in advance for my not very good English.
Yo same thing here I finally decided to give it a watch to see what the hype was about and I was wow this show is amazing I also have to give a shout out to amphibia to for getting me back into story driven cartoons witch made me interested for the owl house I love both of these shows
Your english is great, dw
@@Yesytsucks Thank you
The irony that disney back in 2005 wanted to have a IP that was there own Harry Potter to fight against WB. That's why they temporarily acquired rights for Narnia. But they failed to tell the story in movies, cut down on things from the books including religious things. although I am not religious myself. Now they have had the chance to own a series of rich fantasy that is not only original, diverse, LGBTQ stuff and lovely. But instead they throw it out the window. This could be the Harry Potter series they wanted. I can't stand them.
They're making a Percy Jackson tv show, and the book series (also known as the Riordanverse) is really diverse in its representation. Percy is a neurodivergent boy struggling in an abusive household. He is very bi-coded, and so is his girlfriend Annabeth. Many of the characters are queer, like Nico di Angelo. They even had a bisexual main character named Lester. Annabeth's cousin who stars in Magnus Chase is pansexual. He has a boy/girlfriend named Alex Fierro who is genderfluid (sometimes he/him but mostly she/her). They also have a spin-off called Kane Chronicles where both main characters are mixed siblings and one faces systematic racism. Sadie Kane, who is the main character is polyamorous. It's not that similar to the owl house, but you should give it a try if you want a diverse story.
I think that in some ways, The Owl House is purposefuly calling back to Harry Potter - and managing the story a lot better (and I'm saying that as Harry Potter fan).
sadly the old men at disney didnt like the show about gay witches fighting an evil christian
@@realawesomeosummmm, Disney is currently run by a gay woman and has been for a while.
The part I don't understand is the financial and reputational fumble. Disney has been taking L after L for years now, and people are losing interest. Say what you will about the anti-queer backlash - the Owl House fandom would start a fucking war if it meant keeping the show alive. That kind of feverishly dedicated consumer base could have kept them afloat for years! Why not milk it for all it's worth?
On your nitpick on the season 1 finale. How Luz can use magic without glyphs?
Owlbert. That little bird is a boss.
Just like how Hunter can use magic while wielding Flapjack, another birdboss.
I Love The Owl House Disney just gave up its biggest show here!
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At the very least it is believed that Disney realized they fucked up treating TOH they way they did, effectively leaving money on the table by cutting it short. I don't want a revival, as I am afraid it could cause further damage but I do hope Disney will be more patient with promising serialized shows in the future.
It can't cause more damage, it is like a dlc, if you don't like it, then ignore it. If you like it, great!
That 3 season limit can be a pain against a good show.
hooty's got that charm hes annoying but in a funny way and alex purposely made hooty's voice be the way it is, he said once at a con that hooty's voice sounds like mickey mouse thats been thrown in a washing machine and spun around 100 times
I remember the day I saw the trailer for this show. I also remember watching the pilot in the car the DAY it dropped and instantly feeling charmed by what it had to offer. Three years later and I don’t regret what this show did for me and everyone else. I cried at the finale… even when it had been cut horrendously short. They still have us a wonderful finale. ❤ thank you Owl House… thank you
It's pretty safe to say that Bob Iger (new Disney CEO) cancelled TOH, because of his well known hate of LGBT representation. He also cut advertisement for Strange World for the same reason. It was already in development when he took over, so he couldn't cancel it outright. He also acted very shady during the passing of Florida's don't say gay law. Etc.
Also, TOH was cancelled right after the Grom episode. Season 2 was already greenlit. And they barely got the specials to wrap up. The colector was added to the plot later because the intended story didn't have time to wrap up. A lot of rewriteing happened. That's why some plot points were kinda dropped, like what is the owl beast.
Bob Iger was hired after TOH was cancelled, and the CEO who cancelled TOH was fired
@@FreeHandleForGuest Thanks for the correction. My understanding was that he was involved somehow, but I can't remember where I heard that now. I should be better at fact checking claims before repeating them. Thank you.
@@LamirLakantry chill it’s fine
It wasn't because of the gay stuff. If anything it was the opposite. They likely canceled it because it wasn't overtly gay enough and didn't have nonstop political bs in it. Like how amphibia was canceled, it was too good and didn't bow to most of the bs Disney does these days. It was making the crap shows look bad and showed that there could be a good show with representation that wasn't just nonstop "I'm gay, oh did I tell you I'm gay" one dimensional narrative. It also didn't push the far left political bs they make literally every show have these days.
@@oblitusunum6979 Oh you poor persecuted straight. It must be so hard for you to see diversity in media these days. The left is really demanding too much equally these days. Visual representation of an oppressed minority; the nerve. Please, have a rest on your fainting couch, and try not to get too flustered by the terrible woke mob that are silencing you.
why season 1 was at the pace it was is because it was created BEFORE the cancellation by Disney, it was at the pace that Dana wanted it to be. how the show was gonna function, it was at a pace for the original series length. remember that the show was gonna have 5 seasons, each being the length of season 1 & 2. "season" 3 was supposed to fill in those gaps in a short amount of time so Disney could get it over and done with while also finishing the show off. (im assuming to get less backlash.) Dana can't even continue the show in book/comic form if she wanted to as Disney has the rights to the show. Dana left Disney when she had finished working on the show. I hope that we can eventually get a full length version of the series or a spinoff to help explain things better. i'd like to say that this is an amazing video :)
one more thing,
be gay do witchcraft /ref
:p
Wait, did you say that it was originally going to have 5 seasons? Didn't Ms. Terrace say that the original plan was that the show was going to be 3 seasons?
If I'm wrong at that, you can correct it.
3 season limit on shows.
i absolutely adore how relatable luz is in terms of the shows target audience. the target audience is people who dont fit the status quo- who would be absolutely enamored with a terrifying nightmare world, immediately become dazzled by the new characters, and overall just love the change. luz latches onto the chance to escape reality, and holy shit thats what everyone who adores this show would do
Kind of like why Bluey is so popular with adults.
Thank you The Owl House for very concretely demonstrating the negative effects of bigotry in a message corporate execs understand.
Only just noticed that when the Collector's doll comes back together, the head's facing the wrong way.
for those that watched amphibia, didnt anyone notice Anne Boonchuy in Camila's( luz's mom) ipad. It says" girl lost in frog land?" hoax.
Yeah
I like to think of the second special as wrapping up leftover ideas and tying up loose ends, the first special was more about getting back and the third was the final fight, we can't really blame the second special for not being as good.
fun fact King Dad the Titans look is supposed to make him an Owl House fan boy. the movement where he brings Luse back to life is the fans supporting the show and getting the spaciels made.
This is totally one my favourite Disney shows ever made! It has been a whole year since i started watching it on Disney+. And i really got hooked into it, thabks to it's sense of representations! (as someone being autistic myself) IT'S SO UNFAIR that Disney just cut a gem like this short! But either way i am eternally grateful that it exists! Not to mention that in spite of time constraint it managed to pull of such a perfect ending!
Life itself is highly unfair to thee including us.
I don't even remember how I found this show. All I know is, I jumped into it expecting whatever, and ended up being one of many fans who grew incredibly *worried* when season two had that one menacing hiatus.
There's so many things about this show that speak to me in a personal level. The very first chapter revolves around the fact that Luz Noceda is probably the weirdest kid at that school. That hit me in the feels straight away dude. Being weird and getting overwhelmed when trying to be "normal" was half of my childhood. And then Luz meets Eda and King and yeah, I thought for a few episodes I was watching some equivalent of Adventure Time (specially taking into acount its humor; chaotic and usually quick-witted), but each episode took me by surprise. Amity had a far deeper personality than it seemed at the beginning, Gus and Willow went from discrete background characters to protagonists, Eda had the dynamic with her curse, King started revealing an interesting past... Everything and everyone had at least one episode to demostrate they were a real deal, and not a cassual one-off joke. ALSO, there's a romantic story arch which goes somewhere! Luz and Amity get together and REMAIN together! And they talk about their struggles and face each challenge together instead of drifting apart to create the obligatory apology and get-back-together episode!
And then, it got cancelled. Because of course it had to. Anyway, the end of The Owl House made me unsubscribe from Disney+. I'm not giving the mouse a single cent until they start supporting and founding creative people again, instead of creating generic shows and remakes
Edit: Unrelated, but I just realized Luz's name means "Light" in Spanish, and the first bit of magic she learns is a light glyph. I'm from Spain why have I taken this long
First glyph she used, also happens to be the one to bring eda back from her curse temporarily, also happens to be the one that walks people up from the collector's nightmares. Might I add that when things die in the BI they basically turn into the little lights from the glyphs. This show could keep me ranging for hours I'll stop here
Then it ended not cancelled.
@@lenardbordo9838 such rancore isn't healthy.
@@randallbesch2424 You're right, it isn't. I was just really bitter about the cancellation. I love this show and it deserved so much more.
And when you learn that it was cancelled only because of its serialised storytelling and its young adult target demographic...it kind of hits hard when one is of that age and it kind of feels personal.
Like many people I grew up with Disney stories and I like many of them.
But recent decisions have filled me with disappointment and frustration: Star Wars, Marvel and now its animated series have become unoriginal and cheap cash grabs that focus on visuals, action and cheap humour. Originals have become a rarity and aren't as promoted as they once were.
So now I have moved and hope that this show will have a future under a new leadership.
@@randallbesch2424 It was cancelled halfway during season 2 and then, after half a year of negotiations, it was allowed to end its story two seasons before it was originally planned.
So "canceled" for short
I want this show back 😭
I absolutely enjoyed the finale, but the corporate reasons it ended are extremely frustrating.
Their future designs are adorable so I could see a future series like Steven universe. I definitely hope so.
Also immaculate taste in music.
There’s always that one video that makes you subscribe to a channel and this was that video, well done.
You're not the only one who hopes for more but it will take time.
Disney doesn't deserve owning The Owl House for how they ended up treating it, i really hope they learn from said mistake. I'm glad they got to finish it but they definitely wanted to cover more chapters. Thankfully despite Disney's stupid mistake, the end result doesn't feel rushed, at least to me. Still wish we could have seen what those hinted at adventures were though. Love The Owl House and if i ever see a DVD box set for it, definitely will buy to support it.
They never will.
The main thing that bothered me about the final episode was the fact that the Collector went off on his own. Their whole character was built around the idea that they were this poor (uber powerful) kid who got tricked and was alone for a very long time. I would have been much more satisfied with an ending that included the Collector in the main group, finally happy and accepted the way the rest of them were. Instead he ends up roaming the stars alone to "grow up"? It made no sense to me.
The reason this show was never going to fly on mainstream cable, was because it pointed out EXPLICITLY the problems with America, and therefore was going to ruffle some feathers. It would've probably been better off as an indie show
I think you're reading into it too much. Maybe I'm just dense but I never saw much social commentary in this show. It's mostly character driven and focuses and so the primary commentary of the show is mostly focus on just telling kids to be genuine to who they are and grow into they want to be rather than who they are told to be.
@nicholasgiampetro782 hottest moving castle koked capitalism emitys mom is elon musk
I love The Owl House too, Disney please bring it back for another season or two!
That wont happend, no matter how much we want it 😔
3 seasons was all it was made for.
@@crisveinte6511 one never knows
This show was so well made. The characters, story, and themes.
I wish Disney cared for Owl House more. They got little to no merch or support
I've been away from the fandom and show since it ended, its kinda sad to see the community die and this video made me so happy
I only found the show around fall last year but it’s one of my favorite shows ever. It just so beautiful. It always helped me find something out about myself, that being me being asexual and to be proud about it.
Me too!! Glade to have you, fellow ace!
It had been a while since I watched a cartoon that I felt as personally connected to as I did with Adventure Time and Avatar. The Owl House filled the hole that those two shows left beautifully. Such a wonderful series filled with lovable dynamic characters, a fantastic setting, great and interesting lore, and an epic and amazing story. I’m so grateful for everyone who had a part in making this show what it was.
This is for sure one of my top 5 favourite shows
It was downright criminal what Disney did to this cartoon, from entire episode being leaked more than once to simply giving them 2 episodes to finish a whole story. The team did a miracle job in closing as much plot as they could, but on lives the creator said a LOT they had plan had been cut. And then Primos came out not long before the finale of TOH and was a disaster, Disney really has favorites and put on an axe too fast on a cartoon who's special episodes got million of views in less than 3 hours. And the sad thing is, a season renewed will not fix this, because the whole story was finished in the finale. To me it is best than not having an ending at all, but we'll never get close deleted episodes back. There had been rumours a spin off series of Eda as a teenager may happen, but to me is just Disney trying to save face. Because it realized they killed a massive show, mostly because 2 girls kissed
There are currently no plans to do anything with this show. If it hadn't had as many viewers on TH-cam as it did they probably would've just thrown the rights for the Owl House in Dana's face!
Now that all of their projects are underperforming they might change their minds one day but until then I think it's best if we just turn our backs on this studio.
@@lenardbordo9838I know it’s Pixar but Elemental (an original) ended up doing quite well and Inside Out 2 has been a monster hit .
I remember first watching this show at first it sorta gave me like a Harry Potter aspect. I even seen other fan art of what would happen if owl house crossover with Danny Phantom, which I know would be truly amazing✨👻.
As much as it may resemble HP on the surface, it's a massive deconstruction of its tropes.
@@amesstarline5482and it ends with the mf actually changing the status quo instead of becoming a cop
@@eow4317 I like that in a way, Luz isn't pushed as "the savior of The Isles". They all rebuilt together, as a society, a family, a friendship, a love. The show loved breaking the status quos since either Luz's entire "I choose to stay" or Willow's change in track.
A show that questions the Status Quo and explores deeper to see w h y the "Status Quo is God" trope isn't always a good way out.
I think why I'm enjoying Lower Decks is because it also embraces the "Status Quo isn't an end-all". Establish your Status Quo, and see why it's needed to change.
I like Hooty so much that I get upset when the characters in the show are mean to him. Especially during the first season.
Same like stop bullying the lonely owl man he is precious
@@supotter377 🦉😇
Yeah during season 1 i thought that hooty might crack under all the hate he is getting by the characters and go feral or something, I wasn’t really expecting him to become a valued member of the team
Owl House pulled a reverse Game of Thrones. First Season was kinda eh, but then it grew beyond expectations
I still enjoy the season a lot despite what I said in the video, whole show feels kinda incomplete without it ,yknow?
@@GeekToons that is true. I just wish season one was less Disney executives and more Season two and three.
I was surprised when I cried during the ending of the show. I love it so much for what it represents and what I was going through in my own life while I was watching the show. It will ALWAYS hold a place in my heart for one of my favorite shows in recent times for that. The finally was a bitter sweet end to the rollercoaster that this show had been through.
Always remember that while being different means being weird, weird is never a bad thing. When you feel like everything seems to fit together but you, stay that way. Stay weird. Because there is no way that you can keep the weirdos from sticking together.
Have a good day.
If you haven't cried once at watching and dreaming, you're either a new fan or a Psychopath
@@Lili-o7-o4e excuse me for not acting the way you do. I don't go to you for psychiatric information.
Wow the editing in this vid has been the best I have ever seen for this form of content. How dose this not have more likes.
I just binged it over a two day period for the first time and I hate that it got cancelled. Its one of the cutest shows, while having deep themes and dark imagery. Belos is terrifying and the fact he still considered himself human was disgusting. Luminty was something I didn't see at first but definitely enjoyed and always went, "They are soooo gay," in my head before they were together. Vee's human design was adorable. I wish this wasn't cancelled.
I remember seeing a brand new show on Disney (TOH) and I fell in love with it instantly. Yes Disney sure did screw it up but it was still amazing how they could end it. I will never get tired of this show and I am glad the last episodes Dana did a F U Disney. All I am trying to say is thank you for this amazing show
I like hooty because he’s barely there. Too much of him would be too but he’s justtttt the right amount. Plus everyone else thinks he’s annoying. I get why you don’t like him though he’s definitely not my favorite 😅 KKKOHD is top episodes for me because i am one of the fans lumity has a chokehold on, plus harpy eda + king powers + ratio… i can handle some high pitches hooty for that!
Btw great video! Love the editing style and commentary on one of my favorite shows ever (and got me super interested into animation!!)
Always remember that while being different means being weird, weird is never a bad thing. When you feel like everything seems to fit together but you, stay that way. Stay weird. Because there is no way that you can keep the weirdos from sticking together.
Stay weird.
Stick together.
Never forget who you are.
I feel sad I just finished the show and it brought me to tears
This show made me fucking SOB oh my gods 😭😭
Why did it have to end
Whenever your sad remember these things:
Bazooka staff
Batata
Hunter flattening his sleeping bag
Last but not least: us weirdos gotta stick together.
This is why I hate Disney, but also love Disney because Disney cancelled toh but also greenlit toh
The production quality of this video is astounding, especially for such a small channel. I love it!
Video was great and I agreed with almost all of your points (aside from hooty!). One thing that kind of annoyed my was how at seemingly random points there would be a random montage to introduce the next song, that kind of just felt unnatural. Keep making videos its great!
I just love how much effort you put in your videos
Glad you like them!
2:20 I *immediately* recognised that song, I absolutely love the owl house and good kid, and if anyone was wondering the name is Mimi's delivery service😁
Hm, fair and valid points and opinions, this was a very well done Video, I could fully see where you were coming and could agree in some areas, while I am still curious and would’ve liked to see where things could’ve gone if the Great Cut didn’t happen, I do appreciate what we got and what it inspired.
By the way, about Hooty, I don’t really think his Voice is that bad, I have actually heard worse, besides I was under the impression that Hooty was a Fan-Favorite or something.
Anyway, I have three Questions for you:
Do you know of MoringMark?
Have you done a Video about Amphibia already?
If so, then how about doing a Video about Pibby?
These intro montages are amazing! So great
why did you have to include the part with Hunter crying? it makes me cry, too 😅
great video!
Like you, I feel this is probably the best animated series ever done. I do also dislike that Disney cancelled it because it didn't fit their brand.
You've hit on so much in this video and yet you've only scratched the surface. Animation, drama, emotions, etc. It hits on so many points. One moment you feel happy, then you feel sad, then you feel happy again or anxious or so many other emotions.
I can't think of another cartoon out there that took me from episode 1 to the end and kept me wanting more.
I've watched more videos of this series than any other out there. I keep looking for new content and I follow any notices on the show that I can find. Which is weird for me because I don't do social media.
My hope is that one day Dana Terrace will take the Owl House and create a new series which will take us into the next Generation. MorningMark has written several terrific Owl House Comics here on TH-cam which are both funny and enjoyable. It would be nice to see them team up and work out a 2nd generation.
Also, she should write an Azure Series. I'd love to see Azure face Hecate at the bog of immediate regret.
You know I always wondered what the original story would've been. Since Disney had cancelled the show during season 1 and only agreed to 3 episodes for season three... Some things had to be changed
The collector originally wasnt going to exist but was added in in order to movd the plot forward
Hooty sounds like a discount Micky Mouse bc It was the voice actors micky impresion
Amazing style of video essay. Just subscribed :)
The editing is glorious. Like, actually magnificent
A show i'd really love you to check out is Camp Camp! it's a lot better and more mature than other adult cartoons. It isn't afraid to be crass or out there but there's a certain amount of restraint they have. It never goes too far. That, and it makes time to actually have some genuine heart. Season 1 is like season 1 of The Owl House in a sense that theirs bits of story that becomes more and more apparent as the series progresses, its story, characters and hidden lore so so interesting and it’s filled with mystery, epic story arks and emotional moments that I’d seriously call it one of the best animated shows ever made, too bad it’s criminally underrated, not many people are all that aware of it, despite is having a fandom that adores it.
Fellow RWBY fan?
Great thing, the reason Luz can use magic in the season 1 finale is because she has the staff, similar to how she performs a spell earlier in the season with Amity's wand.
would have loved a full season of the hex squad in the human realm
Me when big platforms cancel their actually good shows
Owl House, Inside Job, etc.
At least the former got a proper and satisfying ending though .
I get chills at some of the line’s deliveries, like Luz’s last “now eat this, sucker”
That moment near the end was the best use of "Now eat this, sucka!" I've ever seen in my life.
WAS THAT INTRO MIMI'S DELIVERY SERVICE BY GOOD KID??
On another note, great vid! I love this show, and I'm happy so many people love it as well!
There's some hot takes, but this is a great video overall. The music fits so well, montages are great, and it's a great documentary if you didn't year me the first time.
Ah yes, a long video essay in an afternoon monday.
I didn't watch the Owl House when it first came out, but i ironically watched the season 3 when it first came out, i thought the collector was a version of luz because my sister told me there was a character like that in the show 💀... i truly love the show because i finally watched it on my own, without any outside opinions, luz being this fun character is why i fell in love, but lumity is why i continue to love it, also the story line was so intresting to follow, especially as a teenager, because we never saw that in the shows we were raised on (cursed barney for me) its a truly amazing show and i hope that it gets renewed, because screw disney for cancelling it.
As a Amphibia fan, i was suprised that Owl house got only 3 episodes for the last season. Owl house is much more popular (not better) but of course Disney gets mad when two mfs kiss
It wasn't because of the gay stuff. If anything it was the opposite. They likely canceled it because it wasn't overtly gay enough and didn't have nonstop political bs in it. Like how amphibia was canceled, it was too good and didn't bow to most of the bs Disney does these days. It was making the crap shows look bad and showed that there could be a good show with representation that wasn't just nonstop "I'm gay, oh did I tell you I'm gay" one dimensional narrative. It also didn't push the far left political bs they make literally every show have these days.
@@oblitusunum6979 I was pretty ironic in my comment, Disney is just messed up
@@yoshi9046 a lot of people were trying to make a similar claim when it isn't the case. Thus my comment
@@oblitusunum6979 Welp no one wants to admire what they are doing could be wrong
@@oblitusunum6979I thought Amphibia ended on its own terms ?
Great video brother never watched the owl house but your video did a good job explaining the show
Amphibia and the Owl House are very remarkable shows that brought the absolute best audiences ❤
It's funny you mention Hooty being insufferable, because I usually hate that kind of comic relief characters. And I can definitely relate with "how can I be the only one hating me" after discovering I am apparently the only one thinking that The Legend of Korra would be a million times better without Bolin.
But Hooty isn't *just* insufferable: he's insufferable *and everybody agrees he is*. The show isn't trying to hide that he's thick as a brick, or trying to make him look better, they just show that he truly cares for the protagonists, and really enjoys being included, and he does really help Lilith when she's at her worst. They show you can count on him to be there.
It is still truly weird they chose to make the True Lumity Episode revolve around HIM, that's right. But I think somehow he works as a character even with *that* voice. Also that *was* junk mail, in the end #spoilers
8 minutes into this vid and I’m already liked and subscribed. Love the vibe here, especially the little intros to all of the characters. Excited to dig into your other videos!
You just about made me cry with the good kid/owp house edit! Like omfg!
15:01, I think Luz can do magic because of Owlbert, we've seen her do magic via Stringbean in S3 and Hunter turn from magicless to being able to do his speed magic thing when he absorbed flapjack, so I think it's cuz she's holding onto owlbert she can use magic. The reason I believe Eda can't use magic in S2 even with Owlbert is cuz she can't directly use it with the owl curse thing
just a personal headcanon based on my observations
The Owl House was Disney's last masterpiece. They kill3d the last good thing they had left and now we’re stuck with pure mediocrity
cancelling the owl house was the final nail in Disney's coffin
@@shailis2098 exactly
Now we have to do what Dana Terrace did: move on for it's clear that Disney won't produce anything of quality anytime soon.
@@shailis2098Disney isn’t even close to dying
It wasn't killed it got its 3 season run then ended.
omg i love the owl house but i couldn't not hear good kid in the backround excellent video and perfect music choice
i love your editing style, let me say i was here before you got famous
I don’t want a 4th season to unravel the perfectly tied bow we got, I wish we had a full season 3, I wouldn’t mind a books tho, maybe belos’s diary or the good witch azura book
Agreed
Yes, more episodes would’ve been nice but the ending was still satisfying and I’m glad it was even able to get that. As well as the amazing epilogue .
A comic, as you said probably wouldn’t hurt though .
Or maybe Rulers Reach: Enter the Bad Boy
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at 15:03 when he says in this ep she can use magic with out the glyphs is wrong because in cannon humans can use magic with out glyphs is because humans can use the palismans magic so Luz used Owlbert to activated the glyphs
At least the crew knew about the cancellation around halfway through the the production of season 2 so they could rework a lot to fit the reduced runtime. Still sucks but it's a silver lining.
The editing is honestly so great! You really do need more subs!
Not me literally crying after i finished the last episode
Disney letting go of TOH will always be one of their worst mistakes ever. I really hope it comes back somehow someday
i mean, Dana did set up an almost perfect possibility for a spinoff with the new glyph language and the collector's siblings
@dio3321 yeah exactly. I REALLY hope we get a future spinoff with all that! It would be incredible
People tend to forget they got canceled before writing/making Season 2b onwards, not that they were canceled after season 2 so they only had the 3 episodes to make up.
Hunter is a really good character he is really well written but poor Flapjack ( my favorite character is Luz tho)
also Luz went through a lot in the last 72 hours of the show ( season 3) starting at halloween
she went through flapjack’s death and hunter getting possessed to her coming back to the isles to discovering that the collector was ruining the isles and playing a game using her life on the boiling isles and Luz finally got to meet her palisman to a few minutes later waking up to a nightmare but with the help of amity, hunter, willow and gus escaping out of it to finally seeing eda and king again ( since king’s tide for seeing luz and since clouds on the horizon at the very beginning for eda) but then playing games with the collector and having a chat with the collector to maybe change his point of view of everything to luz dying to save the collector but coming back thanks to king’s dad and defeating belos once and for all
Nobody in the history of ever:
Luz:
Watched eda almost get petrified
Discovered someone was pretending to be her, living in herplace with her mom
Watched the collector defeat belos by tapping his forehead
Watched the collector tear apart the room
Forced to return home after trying to save everyone
Promised her mom to leave the one place that let's her be herself
Watched a friend get possessed
Watched a friend die
The friend that died was killed by the possessed friend
The possessor was the overlord murderer they're fighting and was thought to be dead
Returns to find home sparkly ✨️
Literally lives in a nightmare for a sec
Meets collector
Talks to collector
Teams up with collector
Dies?
Comes back??
Is fluffy???
HAS MAGIC IMBUED INTO HER BODY THROUGH MEETING THE TITAN HIMSELF??!?
How did Dana Terrace saw the series ending?
You said the finale we got was way different from what Dana wanted, but I was unable to find anything online.
Just curious about how it could have ended
Ps: nice essay :D
It's just upset fans' speculation I don't think Dana terrace vision for the ending changed that much.
i heard that the ending wasnt changed too much, but it wouldve taken longer to get there.
A lot of things wouldve been different. For example, the collector was only added because of the show getting cut short. Instead we wouldve got the archivists. Plus a lot of plot points (especially ones in s3) wouldve had more time to simmer and build up.
Its important to note that s2 A of TOH was written BEFORE the show was decided to be cut short; everything in s2 beyond that wouldve had to be rushed more because of that, such as Belos’ reveal in s2 ep12, everything about the titan trappers and kings reveal, and more
Also, its confirmed that we wouldve got an ep diving deep into Hootys backstory, got explanations of Evelyns past & link to Eda (perhaps in a flashback ep with young Belos in it), a better explanation about the titan (like in the scene where Luz meets him in s3 but more in depth), got to meet more of the coven heads, more time for amitys plot with her dad and rebellion, stuff about Steve ✨ and most importantly a final confrontation with Hunter and Belos (I hoped atleast)
@@chumley04 Half of the things you said was just made up there's no source that we would have got the archivists there's no titan trappers promis and every picture in hollow mind was probably going to be animated if you were so sure you can give me sources you should at least get contact with the subreddit every thing you said is just fans wishlists there is no way we would've got more in depth season 3 when everything in season 3 wasn't going to happen. Dana said she got more creative with season 3 than she was planed everyone mourning about season 3 and they would have had a perfect show but looking back to the owl house season 1 and amphibia season 3 I'm not sure if we going to get something better than we got. And the rushed accusation is weird where the season 3 pacing is amazing and better than season 1 where they "exactly aligned with their plan"
Stop living by hypothesis we might get something better but we might also get something worse or just as good we might never know.
@@thefirstone4864 Busy rn but ill respond anyway.
The archivists, ep about Hootys backstory, stuff abt Steve, screentime for other coven heads and more info about Evelyn, Belos and Eda as a kid have all been confirmed over time, especially in the post Owl House stream Dana and crew did a while back.
Sure the other things were events that probably wouldve happened but yea *not confirmed* (prob shouldntve written it out like that).
OBJECTION! You say that Disney would d have been the best place for it, as others would shut it down faster, but I propose: Indie animation. No 'style' it has to fit, no regulations that have to be worked around. Wonder how different it would be that way.
You have to remember this was greenlit before indie was Actaully getting big on TH-cam
4 days ago, it was my aniversary for watching the owl house didn t know how or when but I thought lumity was cute, I watched blindly the grom fight but then I wanted to see the show myself. this show realy helped me with my mental. last year my friends didn t wana hang out with anymore, I lost my dog and I was fighting my epilespy, but then this arived. I related to Luz so much. it even motived me to watch Amphibia. Now I am doing alot better, somehow I have my friends back, I have a new dog and I think about the owl house Every day. As I said, 4 days ago it was aniversary, so I watched Nostaligia videos about TOH, that day I cryed myself to sleep. Thank you TOH
I was expecting a well researched journey into why Disney dropped the show, the impact it's had on company and community, and just how much potential Disney lost. Maybe even a comparison between tOH and some other titles that Disney kept in the past.
15:09 I kind of just assumed that the staff activated the glyphs on the door because they were glyphs on the door so it makes sense it’s the staff that actually has the magic
A random jacksepticeye appears
I believe Disney canceled it because it didn't follow the book and that the main character luz go through so much physically and mentally that we can relate to her because it's something that we are going through today like in part of the video you said that she chose to stay and arrive at her destination but now we can see as a audience that the director wanted luz to go through something more deep than any other Disney movie and show the journey to be a hero not the destination and to have this character learn what means that its not the destination it is the journey that you go on that learn a lot from even though the journey will be difficult physically but most importantly mentally and that is why i understand why the series was cancelled early but we both know that this series and luz is not over actually let me rephrase that we both know that the journey of the series and the journey of the protagonist luz is not over and the journey of this series and the characters is only the beginning
I'm pretty sure there's no book. It's an original story. (I think?)
I watched the entire show in 48 hours with barely any sleep lol
I don’t know why Dana wanted to make fights to compete with Dragon Ball, but holy hell it SHOCKED me how good the fights were
This show was amazing it kind of sucks that it was cut short but apparently still hope they will come back maybe as a spinoff or a nurse season book series there’s still hope if you keep screaming and if Phineas and Ferb and feta and adventure time could come back I believe that this show would that is my hope but for now the show was awesome 😊😔🥹😎🙏🦉💙💙💙
I am so glad TOH is getting appreciated I have been watching since it started and it is my favorite series of all time I really noticed people started liking it when it got popular wich always make me have mixed feelings but I was glad it grew a larger community,this plot is amazing but one tiny little thing I would change is the seriousness of belos’s actions I mean he killed his brother then brought him back and killed him thousands of times,Im still pretty young so TOH will definetly have a special place in my heart as I grow up
The only thing I'm sad got completely ignored was the construction power up glyphs. Could've been a game changer.